Zeiss Jena Lenses
Exploring vintage lenses with the Sony FX3
Zeiss Jena MC Flektogon 20mm f2.8
Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f2.8
These are the two lenses featured in this video with a focus on the newly acquired Zeiss 20mm f2.8.
Sony FX3
Arri Alexa Mini LF
Whenever I mention T stop, I mean F stop.
When looking at different stops @ 3:48, exposure was matched in resolve to highlight lens performance with no exposure distractions.
More to come...
0:00 intro
0:20 background info
0:47 Zeiss Jena Flektogon 20mm f2.8
1:30 thoughts on vintage quality and versatility
2:16 browsing eBay + costs
3:10 PL mount
3:48 matching 20 and 30
5:59 close focus
6:24 flare
7:32 foreshadowing
#vintagelenses #sonyfx30
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excellent info and fabulous footage.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Thank ya John ❤️
Yo love that format! Keep that ish up! It would be interesting to see how these lenses hold up againt the Contax
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I want to try the contax, I’ve been looking at TK lenses to rehouse and put PL mounts on some contax, and even the jenas. We will see.
@romain_do
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 if you pull the trigger on the TK rehousing let me know what you think of them.. Been thinking about having some of my contax rehoused !
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
@@romain_do definitely will let ya know, I’ve been talking to them on ig and am very tempted, especially with contax, as those are harder find in PL
Nice video dude!!
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
This is too good to be true. I've been shooting with Zeiss Milvus super speeds for the past 2 years and tonight randomly I thought I'd chuck a Carl Zeiss Jena DDR 50mm f2.8 Tessar zebra (circa 1972) lens I've had lying around for about 10 years onto my P4K. At 2.8 it looks almost identical to the Milvus 50mm! I think I paid £20 for it. Colour is rich and pops, flares are lovely (artificial light - I'll see how they cope in daylight), constrast is just like you'd expect from a modern zeiss and the sharpness is the same between the two. Bokeh is smooth as (yes, there's som fringing on the bokeh balls but it looks really nice). JUST CRAZY! Yes, there's focus breathing and the focus ring is stiff as, but man, it's time to invest in some of these - even the cheap slower ones. Beautiful!
@BlaineWestropp1
8 ай бұрын
I love them! Great price great look. Need more.
@JonasStuart
8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't even overlook this 50mm f2.8. Yes, it's slower, but it's also tiny. When the BMD Mini 4K G2 is available I'm getting one to rig up as a tiny cine cam, this lens would be a great pairing with that to get stunning images from a very compact package. These lenses must've been so next level when they came out.
just bought a PLd 20mm 2,8 jena and 35mm 2,4 in the last month.. so happy
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Happy for ya!
Nice video!
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
Great work, got the 20mm 2.8 (£265), 35mm 2.4 (£90), 50mm 1.8 (£95) and the 135mm (£35). Now I'm looking for something in the 80mm range to complete the set.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Wow you got really great prices. What mount are they? I need the 35 2.4, been looking for it.
@damiendehorn6350
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Yeah but I bought them a year ago, now the 20 is over £600. All are M42 mount. Once I get a 80, I want to de-click them and add Simmod gear's. Are your Jenna's converted to PL mount or are they PL adapter's? Would love to convert mine to PL soon. Hopefully will test them against a friend's Leica set in the new year.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
@@damiendehorn6350 Cool! Mine are all converted to PL. the 20 is in much nicer condition that the 35, but I really love the 35, it just stops down to f4 when I go to close focus.
@damiendehorn6350
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 The 20 is one of my favourites of the set, had the 35mm 2.8 but gifted it to a friend once I got the 2.4. All are now "red" MC, and near mint. I'm sure you'll love the 2.4 it fits in to the set better than the 2.8. Where did you get yours PL converted? Trying to find a decent place that does M42 to PL hard conversions.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
@@damiendehorn6350 sounds like you have a good set! I will jump on the 2.4 when I see it. I look often. I purchased all of them already converted to PL. from Poland. Can’t remember where the 35 came from but the 20, 50, and 80 were all from the same person. I believe he does the conversions.
After using "modern" lenses that are clinically sharp, I'm finding myself attracted to lenses with more character. Which PL to E mount adapter are you using?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
100% agree. I also love that you can get them for great prices. A set of 7 sigma cine primes is over 30k. You can get a whole heap of vintage lenses that have a unique look for a small fraction of that. Love sigma, use their lenses all the time, and they are easy to rent, but it’s fun to scoop up classics on eBay. I am using the SLRmagic PL to E.
I've picked up a whole cine modded set with pelican case on eBay for a bit less than 1000$ and for 85mm focal length I use a Jupiter which is a copy of Zeiss Biotar which I've modded myself. I normally stop to T5,6 or thereabouts with most of them, the 135mm Jena is the one that's the sharpest wide open but it might just be my copy. I had issues with these lenses, when declicked the AUTO switch absolutely needs to be gaffer taped, otherwise it messes with the aperture mechanism and lens has to be taken apart to set it back. I took mine to repair and have gaffer tape on all of them where the switch is. Other than that they are great vintage lenses! 🙂
@BlaineWestropp1
10 ай бұрын
Glad you got a set for the price! Iron glass is rehousing these now, could be a cool option. Would fix that iris slip.
Re flares, in my experience, you'll get the best sun flares when the sun is less bright (ie. golden hour) and there's more low light contrast for the flares to show up against. The 50mm f2.8 has beautiful flares too °¬)
@BlaineWestropp1
8 ай бұрын
Yes!
Curious what adapters you are using for PL to EF and PL to E-mount. I have not had good experiences with some lenses on PL adapters. There are definitely size limitations with some lenses (CP.2s for example). But maybe the Jenas aren't a problem.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
I am only using PL to E on the Sony. Not using a PL to EF on anything. It is an SLRmagic PL to E. The zeiss lenses I have are very light so it’s fine, but there is some play on the E side of the mount. I imagine this play will be there with all PL to E mounts unless the mount gets bolted on the camera somehow.
The 20mm 2.8 multi coat is so hard to find. Just grabbed a pl mount but there’s only been two in the last few months in PL. Almost 1k but the color renditions are nuanced but they do transport the viewer beyond what a grade can do. It’s like a dreamy mode on an ultra sharp sensor it’s a new age combo. My 50mm MC is the f4… my 35is 2.4…80 and 120 are all 2.8… so 50 is the odd one out but I might just use my 35 2.4 in apsc mode… so rendering it around 55 (so I’ll use it as my 35 and 55). Thoughts on that strategy vs replacing the 50/4? As an fyi my sensor does full 4k in apsc mode.
@BlaineWestropp1
7 ай бұрын
I love the 20 2.8. Great lens. For the 50 I’d try and snag that 1.4, depending on what price you can get for it. I still see Jena prices rising. Especially after the announcement of the ironglass rehousing, and no one has them yet, so the second something big is shot on the jenas the price will rise again.
@ro8144
7 ай бұрын
I picked up a 50/2 (starwars) for the time beeing!@@BlaineWestropp1
Great video 🎉 I love the look of the jenas, I’m curios what you recommend for the PL conversion ? What’s the most reliable and affordable process? Thank you 🙏
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I buy them all already with a PL mount. Check eBay!
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
You can also get them properly rehoused. I may consider getting them rehoused by TK lenses.
@AaronCabreroJr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the info! TK lenses looks legit and they are definitely more affordable than some of the other rehouse options :)
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
@@AaronCabreroJr yes they are! They don’t list zeiss jenas on their site but I think they can do them!
What did you pay for the 20mm 2.8 Flektogon and when. It is currently selling in Thailand for around 7-800 US dollars. Which is a huge jump in what I paid for it a few years back. It has risen more than any other of my lense. Nice demonstration, even if torch flickers. Thanks, Larry
@BlaineWestropp1
11 ай бұрын
hey thanks! I paid about 800 for a PL version. I believe the prices of these will continue to rise.
cool, I spent a lot of dough on FD lenses myself
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
The FDs really popped. I like them. And the Leica Rs
Are your Jenna's converted to PL mount or is that an PL adapter on the M42?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Converted
Yo Blaine! Another question for ya haha what if I get the Jenas with a M24 to Sony E mount, instead of PL to Sony E? Is there a catch if I do that or should I be fine? Only reason I ask is because it’s harder to find PL versions of these lenses rn.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Yo! I personally will only buy PL lenses unless the lens I want does not come in PL, or the lens I want is not currently available in PL. for the jenas, since they are light weight, you’ll be fine with any mount. It’s just nice to be able to mount them on PL cameras, but you can always adapt them later.
@noahjstein
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I gotcha ! wow THANK U .
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
I ue the still CZJ's and the Russian KMZ clones. Great lenses. Great color and IQ.
@BlaineWestropp1
5 ай бұрын
great lenses. love them!
Did it come with the PL fixed or an adapter from M42 to PL ?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Fixed
Which PL adaptor are you using on your FX3?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
I use an SLRmagic PL to E
Bro if you like these ones.. You should get the Contax Zeiss lineup.
@BlaineWestropp1
8 ай бұрын
You like the contax better than Jena? Can I PL mount contax?
How much did you get your 20mm for?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
It was about $875 shipped.
Are they FF? I went through that fase with FD lenses! Lol
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are FF. I like the FDs. I missed the boat on those though.
FYI you are NOT finding a Flek 35 for $150 in any sort of good condition, and that 20 he has in his hand is SEVEN HUNDRED dollars, so that "under 2k" is complete cap, at least in 2024
@BlaineWestropp1
3 ай бұрын
I spent less than 2k lol.
PL mount to EF??
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Just PL mount!
Are these full-frame?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
yes!
Put it in PAL mode and see if it flickers
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm I will try this today. Thank you. I am in the US though.. will let ya know.
First!
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
I’m honored
@EdmundElijah
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 My daughter fell asleep when I was getting gas, so I’ve been sitting on KZread for the last twenty minutes. Saw the notification as soon as it uploaded. Haha!
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
love it. where you heading next?
@EdmundElijah
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I'm in Texas until December, then I head home to Portland for the holidays, the back to Texas. Going to look for work in Oklahoma. Probably end up out there by spring.
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Cool. Well as always enjoy the travels and keep us updated with videos.
It cost less to buy these lenses than to eat at Bernies haha
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
hah! I could go back tonight
@Asomers322
Жыл бұрын
You are not wrong 🫠
How the fuck is it PL mount?
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Original mount was modded to PL
I don't want to be that guy but I did an eBay DEEP dive because of this video 😅😅 and walked away with a 50mm and 80mm. Although I've found some claim that the Jena line was built in Soviet controlled East Germany and were never officially Zeiss lenses 🤷♂
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Love it! Glad you got some. I believe there are 2 spots where they were manufactured and one of them was by zeiss. Also, I thought that claim was for contax lenses.
@JulesFredericNerestant
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Potato, Zeiss-tah-to, can't wait to shoot with these 😅 Thanks for the video!
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Lol. Hope you make some good work with them! You should snag the 35 👌
ps: they are not made by zeiss. Carl zeiss Jena a.k.a eastern germany zeiss were a completely different brand. they kept the name (zeis jena) after the allies and the soviets split the company in the 50s. West Germany kept name Zeiss. Soviet had their company, Zeiss Jena and West Germnay kept the Zeiss.
@BlaineWestropp1
2 ай бұрын
I know there is a complicated story with these, and even contax.
@rodrigolev1
2 ай бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 exact, love your videos :9
I wish I didn't need af
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
Hear ya there. Af is nice to have. What do you “need” it for?
@silentrunning3100
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I use my camera as an overkill webcam
@BlaineWestropp1
Жыл бұрын
I see, as long as you aren’t moving forward and back extreme distances, and using a wider lens, you will be fine with a manual lens. Especially if you are at f4 or 5.6, you’ll stay in focus.
@silentrunning3100
Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 it’s funny you say that, I really didn’t like seeing myself on 20mm, though we have a similar build and i wonder if it’s just a confidence thing
@silentrunning3100
Жыл бұрын
or maybe I’m self-conscious for other reasons, but I would definitely need more light if I wanted to stop to 4 - 5.6