Zastava ZPAP85 - The NATO 5.56 AK
Zastava has quickly grown to become the largest AK brand being imported into the U.S. The ZPAP85 is their take on the popular m85 model of AK, chambered in the NATO 5.56 cartridge.
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They should make it in 300 Blackout
@tedr.richardson4655
3 ай бұрын
Coming soon
@bryceallen17
2 ай бұрын
I know PSA has made a krink and is making a 300blkout
@redrumdaddy9949
Ай бұрын
Nit, rifle is fine.
In a deeper history of the m85, they originated in 1985 (go figure) as a underfolding yugo carbine version of the m80. They were designed for the Yugoslavian Army before the Civil War. Fortunately the zpaps and the earlier m85pv's are imported with the correct trunnion. Just scored a underfolder with hardware for my conversion.
Great video. I have an 85/tactical. Right now I have Zaztava under fold and a laser. That's it. I have the arm brace and a couple of different optics, but since I carry it my car I like the minimum. I was a career Marine so I qualified with the M-16 many times. I actually prefer the feel of this rifle more -- it's really solid, compact and optimal for me.
Nice, love the handguard and muzzle options. Have the ZPAP92 and have been really wanting this one lately.
What?... No way!!.I bought my M85 pistol from Zastava in 2015...It was a complete pistol with original trigger group and furniture..Double hook trigger and chrome bolt and carrier.Its chambered in 556,so i love the build...I personally dont run any optics on my AK pistols/rifles...
Great review! Bought one of these about 7 years ago…has the polymer mag well for GI AR mags..it’s super tough..but the polymer mag well is super tight..no mag speed changes going on there…I replaced the top cover with a hinged pic rail version..place a triangle brace..looking for one of the flash devices that gets rid of the fireball…
@Dirty2Clean1980
3 ай бұрын
Yes bought some steel mags immediately
Serbian Zastava steel mag is the best for 5.56mm!!!
Excellent video, very informative. Thank you.
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and the nice comment!
Informative. Thanks.
Definitely enjoyed video... definitely can't wait to get mine. You should do the m90....
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, looking to get our hands on one!
Love the jmac 360 on my m92 no issues and the jmac brace with available cheek risers. Alg good manticore arms front hand guard required a good bit of fitting and must be modified to accept mlok but I like how it cleans up front . No light on yet maybe a blue force gd thang up front . Pa prism maybe 🤔 will work and look right . Nice video 😊
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a sweet setup
I am officially building this setup, pistol on the way and sourcing the sierra 5. Please do a run-and-gun vid on this bastard!
Great review 👍. With yugos requiring proprietary parts, was the ALG trigger installation any different than standard AKM trigger upgrades?
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Not at all! very easy
I have the ZPAP M70 and M92. They are awesome! Since I purchased a JRA Gallant ARM, I've gotten into the .556 AKs. So the ZPAP85 will be my next purchase. 😎✌️
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Right on! 5.56 AK's are the future
To be honest I've shot really well with the stock Yugo trigger on this one. ALG is great though, on most of my AKs :)
Great video, I'm just getting my M85 set up. I got the CNC brace, I chose the JMAC 360 26-1.5 X20 Wolfman w/their BDS 20. I was like "how do I keep this from just spinning off?" I always put aeroshell grease on my barrel threads. Can high-temp lock mix with the grease. I always heard don't put red thread lock on if you ever wanna remove the break. The JMAC 360 has indents on them, why don't they send a little gear wrench with them?
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
rockset or high temp locktight can be removed with heat. It isn't a permanent solvent, but is highly recommended if you are running a suppressor. Threading a can on and off, or simply shooting, will in time, loosen your muzzle device if it isn't secured with some type of thread locker. If your device gets loose in even the slightest bit, it could cause misalignment of your suppressor and cause serious damage. If you are going to use it, clean off any grease on both the barrel and muzzle device threads real well with a degreaser/cleaner. you will want those threads clean and dry for any of those thread lockers to work properly. the 360 brake is great because it does not need timed, and has flat spots for a wrench. I'm sure they don't include a wrench for the muzzle device to keep costs down, no brands really do.
I just bought one 🙌
What charging handle extension are you using ?
How long would the dead air can last for on this platform? Glad to have gotten a zpap85 a few months ago. Now in the building/putting-together process, also my favorite weapon in my arsenal by far! Awesome content!
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Dead Air claims this is one of the most rugged use cans out there, with no barrel length restrictions and full auto rated. Tens of thousands of rounds should be no issue. If you're able to burn it up, they would love to see it and rebuild it for you. The Sierra 5 is a greatly recommended can from our side of things.
@catousmob
8 ай бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 would you recommend this suppressor for a CZ Scorpion ?
@OFFICIALUND
4 ай бұрын
@@catousmob NO! It's a 5.56 silencer, and a CZ scorpion is 9mm. The bullet would destroy the can.
This is a great gun. What about the Texas Weapon Systems rail for the PAP85?
@texasgunexperience5096
8 ай бұрын
They make excellent stuff
Hi. What is the music in the intro and background?
Did the Yugo light mount from kyber custom need any modifications to install it?
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
oh yeah. Ordered the larger Yugo mount and had to Dremel out a larger inside diameter to make it fit. Not too tedious as its only aluminum and it works well with this setup.
From north Texas. Dig your channel. I got the Zpap85 with a muzzle that's not welded. Twist off. What suppressor do you recommend?
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
depends on the adaptor you want to use: the threads on the gas block are 26mm which are quite large. Dead Air makes the wolverine (with available 26mm insert). JMAC Customs make both omega thread pattern (used in this video) and keymo brakes that will thread directly on the 26mm gas block. The Dead Air Sierra 5 used in this video is very impressive, Silencerco Omega 30 is great and versatile, and of course the Dead Air Wolverine is the AK go to.
@sonoftexasOO
Жыл бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 I appreciate you taking the time to share that knowledge. Thankyou!
I like your muzzle options. I think I'll try for my older m85(one that takes AR mags)
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Jmac customs for the muzzle device
@chitterlingsrtasty
Жыл бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 Yeah I looked at their options shorty after I posted. I may invest depending on the outcome of the brace tyranny
Still haven’t fired mine yet. Just installed and tuned (as far as smoothness) an ALG el trigger in it. I am constantly reading about these being pretty over gassed out of the box. I was wondering if yours was over gassed before any of the mods you’ve done, and would you go with the KnS piston or maybe just and ALG recoil spring?
@texasgunexperience5096
3 ай бұрын
it was definitely overgassed, but they kind of need to be since the barrel is so short and there is basically no dwell time. you can smooth this out with that recoil spring and reprofiling the hammer.
Can you tell me the exact model JMAC custom muzzle you have there? Also does yours screw all the way down to the little d-tent that holds the muzzle device in? thanks!
@texasgunexperience5096
9 ай бұрын
JMAC - MDI-CO 360 26-1.5LH Facemount X37 - HUB www.jmac-customs.com/360-26-1-5lh-facemount-x37-bravo/ it does not engage the detent pins. there is no timing needed for this device.
What is a good all around zero for the ZPAP 85? I know it’s a 10” barrel so it would be something for close range and maybe out to about 100 to at the most 200 yards, probably more like 100 yards and in since that’s the max distance my local range has. Any and all recommendations are welcomed. Will be using a Holosun HS-510c green dot. As a side note, I pretty much cloned yours, minus the suppressor and optic. May go through the process for this exact suppressor in the future.
@texasgunexperience5096
4 ай бұрын
some of it depends on the optic and the purpose of the rifle. A lot of my dots are zeroed at 100 yards and have bullet drop lines/dots to adjust for ranging. arma targets make nice sight in targets that you can print and use to zero and account for point of aim/impact at various distances. If the center dot of your 510 is zeroed for 100. then that bottom hash at the 6o'clock if the big reticle, should be a good reference for CQB ranges 7-15 yards or for a much further 500 yards away
@Thechameleonofall
4 ай бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096thanks for the reply, exactly what I was looking for. Just subbed to! Great content!
What is that exact light mount boss? Im having issues finding the correct fitment.
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
khybercustoms.com/bc47-bc70-light-mount/ This is the mount... but because it isn't a direct fit, we had to Dremel out the clamp size for a larger fit.
Would you go with the zpap85 or cz scorpion
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Currently have and enjoy both: for the size, anything rifle caliber would be much more energy going downrange. 9mm in the Scorpion is fantastic, but I would choose the 10.5" 5.56 or 7.62 all day over 9mm.
Have the 360. And Sierrra 5k. It is not a concentric fit. How do suggest curing this problem? How much non concentricity is acceptable?
@texasgunexperience5096
4 ай бұрын
to ensure concentricity, find a bore alignment rod. with your muzzle device and silencer attached, run the rod all the way down the silencer, through the barrel, until it hits the bolt face. if the rod is not touching your silencer, then you are ok. If it is touching, then you are out of alignment. a gunsmith may be able to help rethread or, (since the threads are on the gas block) replace the gas block with a new thread set.
Can this fire .223 subsonic I'm trying to make this hearing safe with a suppressor and subsonic ammo
@texasgunexperience5096
10 ай бұрын
5.56 AK's are typically over gassed and adding a suppressor may help with the pressure loss from the ammo. With these shorter barrels, there is little to no dwell time, so unsuppressed with subs may not work, while with a can attached it may be just fine. We have not tried subsonic rounds on this setup.
Keep all your Mags loaded, Empty Mags are like Dead Power Tool Batteries, Useless when you need them. Semper Fidelis
What charging handle are you using??
@texasgunexperience5096
10 ай бұрын
www.carolinashooterssupply.com/CSS-Saiga-VEPR-AK47-knurled-charging-handle-p/css-charging-handle.htm
That's a bad mother cheers 🍻
Link for KNS piston?
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
www.knsprecisioninc.com/product/ak-adjustable-gas-piston/
does it get hotter then your galil pistol? and even if its a 556 how would you compare the two with quality?
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
The Galil is hands down what one the most refined 7.62x39 platforms on the market, but the price also reflects that. I would say the Galil is cooler in temp, and the aluminum handguards don't hold much heat. The heat on the Zastava mostly comes from those steel retaining clips. The Zpap is fine without a glove until you start putting a lot of consecutive rounds down range. Adding a glove makes it more comfortable. I love the Galil and its by far one of the best 7.62 x39's out there, but this Zpap85 for some reason is one of my favorites. The gun has soul and feels like its ready for anything.
@OFCINC
Жыл бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 very detailed and thank you for the reply, when I see a galil pistol 762 in stock I might jump on it, I already own a M70 which is like shooting a sewing machine.
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
you wont regret it
Is that a circle 10 mag?
@texasgunexperience5096
6 ай бұрын
Yes, The waffle pattern one is a Circle 10
What was that first break you put on there?
@texasgunexperience5096
11 ай бұрын
The brake is a 26mm Jmac Customs 360, the blast diverter is Jmac as well. The suppressor is the Dead Air Sierra 5, with directly threads onto the 360 brake/mount
@ebutuoy5088
11 ай бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096thank you
What charging handle is that
@texasgunexperience5096
2 ай бұрын
carolina shooters supply supply, knurled knob
Does it take standard 556 magazines buddy
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Only takes rock and lock 5.56 AK mags
@chitterlingsrtasty
Жыл бұрын
The previous version did take AR mags. Not sure why they changed.
My Zastava M90 is Righteous! Adjustable Gas and a DA Wolverine, I will Hopefully be using the Can on an 10.5" AKP and will be putting a KNS Adj. Piston in her soon. My M90 Likes the origional Plum 5.45 Mags with the Pod Arms 223 followers the Best i mean The Best!
I don’t know if I wanna get a m85 or build a 12.5 inch mid length ar
@texasgunexperience5096
24 күн бұрын
the correct answer is both, the biased answer is M85 because its something cool and different.
@TheJoeml85
24 күн бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 yeah only thing is if shtf more of your boys are gonna be using ar15 platform so if you need a mag they got you haha
@texasgunexperience5096
23 күн бұрын
battlefield pickups!
@TheJoeml85
20 күн бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 haha I think about that like if I was in Ukraine fighting I’d definitely carry a ak74 because there’s a ton of ammo laying around but I’d have a mlok handguard with picatinny rail for ir laser and flash light and I’d either have a good lpvo with a 45 degree red dot or a Eotech with a magnifier most of the Russian troops are using open sights f that haha
I wouldn’t call this a “NATO AK”. Just an AK chambered in 5.56. Because Serbia is not a NATO member. Some Polish and Bulgarian AKs, yes, but not Yugo. Also, I’m not too concerned about finding 7.62x39 these days. There’s just way too many 7.62 AKs here in the states.
@mrguiltyfool
Жыл бұрын
After the conflict in Ukraine. 7.62 x 39 might dried up like how after Yugoslav civil war cheap 8mm Mauser rd dried up
@UgandanAirForce
Жыл бұрын
@@mrguiltyfool More 7.62x39 is being manufactured in the US since the russian import ban and is still fairly popular since the AK community expanded quite a bit in the past few years
Sir. Yugoslavia is never been in the Varsav alliance or NATO.
I got the 7.62x39 version. I want my first 74 to be an actual 74 in 5.45x39 not 5.56x45. I feel like if I ever go to buy a 5.56 AK it'll be a FB Radom and that's it. I'm not to keen on a NATO caliber in a com-bloc platform. Plus 5.56 has its strengths and having a better tuned platform with tighter tolerances compliments those strengths better than the AK platform does. 5.45x39 doesn't act exactly like 5.56 either. 5.45x39 has some key differences. Some things it does much better than 5.56x45. Like being used in short barrel set ups.
@1badombre82
6 ай бұрын
I get your point but I wouldn't get a rifle that I can't find ammo for. I can find 556 but not 545. That being said I'm all about the 762x39
@Nperez1986
3 ай бұрын
Good luck finding ammo...Pointless to own a gun that you can't shoot from
Fn FNC..Sig 550 or OG Galil are only 556 AKs that matter...
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
This comment triggers me.... If only we could get our hands on a FNC or SIG 550 series...Giggity
Can you hunt hogs and deer with that gun
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
This would be 100% dictated by your local and state laws. Caliber wise, 5.56 would work for dear and pigs with the correct ammo type.
@namelessmotions3390
Жыл бұрын
@@texasgunexperience5096 I’m in Texas bbyyy
@andrewmiller1761
Жыл бұрын
asked this question about 556 to a friend once... His words were "oh ya, if they don't drop, just send more rounds"
@danicao.6778
Жыл бұрын
Serbian Zastava steel mag is the best for 5.56mm!!!
Yugoslavia was playing ball between the USA empire and the Soviet Union the period of time when Yugoslavia was an independent country 1947-1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 The USA switched its geopolitics destroyed Yugoslavia in 1991 and continued conquering state after state in 2014 went into Ukraine since 1990 the main goal of the USA is For America the chief geopolitical price is Russia
But 7.62 is cheaper and better
@groovy3934
Жыл бұрын
Not anymore bud. Imports banned and combloc calibers are drying up! Even online 7.62 is approaching .42 cents (shipped) per round! .233 is resting steady at .34 👍
why would i buy Serbian when i can buy AK-V from Palmetto which is American
@texasgunexperience5096
Жыл бұрын
Both are good options. Palmetto has been killing it lately, which we are all happy to see.
@boki3jaki
Жыл бұрын
I would recommend going to the range and shooting both. You will see the zastava is far superior. Honestly holding both Palmetto and zastava has better quality and shoots much better. Have shot 1500 rounds in zastava no problem, at the same time Palmetto had 3 misfire in only 200 rounds. I would recommend shoot both and than decide.
@lemystere5345
Жыл бұрын
Zastava has been producing quality, reliable AKs for a much longer time than PSA. PSA does not have a good track record with reliability; it's hit or miss on whether or not you get one that was properly put together. Zastava's track record is generally better and mostly suffered poor assemby because of third-party importer/assember Century Arms. Zastava itself has more experience and alsos provide lifetime warranties. From what I have seen, Zastava USA customer service seems to care a lot more to fix issues than PSA. They really care about their reputation and output now that they are in fuller control of their products. Moving on, AK-V does not have a CHF barrel and is 9mm. M85 has a CHF barrel and is 5.56x45mm. 9mm loses a lot of velocity down range compared to 5.56, limiting your sphere of effective range/engagement. Furthermore, M85 is Serbia strong. That being said, if PSA upped their quality control and attention to detail, I'd be happy to obtain an AK-102, AK-105 or AK-V from them.