Before the beginning of this past season and wings fans were asked if they’d be happy with the opportunity to be in the playoffs in the final week of the regular season, they take it. This season’s team got 91 points, 11 more points than last.

@Detwhat

3 ай бұрын

I just hope we resign Kane. He freed up guys like Raymond to do some damage. We gotta resign Kane.

Goaltending is about number 5 on the list of reasons they didn’t make the playoffs. They don’t have an elite goalie but the ones they used did a great job of keeping them in almost all the games. IMO

@bartsanders1553

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree. A goalie's job is to keep his team in a position to win. Our goalies did that this year. A large share of losses came from skaters giving up on games when falling back, despite us coming back 13 times. Once that mentailty of giving up is fully disposed of, we'll see a big change in results.

I'm 52 I remember how bad the wings were before Yzerman and how when the wings got better but got bounced the first round each year and the "fans" in brackets because they aren't and weren't really fans and the talking heads questioned Stevie Ys heart and abilities. Stevie by the time the team won the Stanley Cups was playing on knees most of us would be whining and crying about daily, by the time 2001/2002 playoffs Yzerman had NO knees and he was the Heart and soul of the wings and he still is today, why did the wings win in 08 ? Pav and Hank never won scoring championships, who did we have? We had all the players that watched and learned from Yzerman how to check an ego and how the team was first and you came 2nd, then he goes into management and brings Canada 2 Gold medals at the Olympics and gold in other Canadian tournaments, He builds Tampa into a perennial playoff team with Championships, he had 9yrs in Tampa and the fans in Tampa were heartbroken when he left and he comes full circle and he is building a dynasty team for you "fans" but your a generation of Amazon door deliveries and shopping on your phone and tablet and majority of you have never paid for a ticket to a wings game but you have all the complaints 🤔 Sit down shut up and watch, until the team regresses in some Major way you have no business complaining, the team has got better by leaps and bounds compared to where they were when Stevie took over. Where was all this bullshit when Holland ran the team into the ground grifting playoff money with NO chance of winning? Where was this anger when Holland signed so many long term bad contracts? Helm, Cleary? Abdalkader? If I'm not mistaken this is the first year Yzerman didn't have to buy out a bad contract.

@leopetaccia1012

3 ай бұрын

I’m 40 and I agree.

@Migmaw

3 ай бұрын

@@leopetaccia1012 👊🏼 Stay blessed

@user-js3gs7du3h

3 ай бұрын

Helm won a cup. Not with Detroit.

@Migmaw

3 ай бұрын

@@user-js3gs7du3h He won the cup in 08 with the Wings

@The_Riptor

3 ай бұрын

I’m in my early 30s. Was a child in late 90s & early 2000s and I fully agree with this entire take 👏

Yzerman forgot more about hockey since I started typing this comment than 99% of the fans ever knew. Holland F**ked this team the last 5 years he was here. Holland success was no cap era and Mr I blanks checks. Yzerman is the greatest Captain in NHL history. They DON'T come back against Vancouver in 2002 without the Captain. Yzerman is going NO WHERE unless by choice. D Mac said it best, Yzerman wants to build a team with long term success, not one or two years. It might be 4 or 5 more seasons before they are a legit Cup contender, but when it happens, they will be in the conversations for 5 or 6 years. He built the Lightning team that won the Cup.

@daveenrici7214

3 ай бұрын

I agree with most you say he's got to do it quicker than 5 or 6 more years

@Detwhat

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I've been saying the same thing. I think your probably around my age. So you witnessed what the man could do. His competitiveness is off the charts. Also, in 02, he played on 1 leg and still lead the team in points in the playoffs. I think its the younger fans you are impatient. I understand their disappointment. But i urge them not to blame yzerman. He will do whatever it takes to win. We barely missed the playoffs this year and we had alot of key injuries. Yes, Holland screwed this team up. I'll always be pissed that he bought the hype about Zadina. I wanted hughs so bad. We desperately needed defensemen at that time and Hughs was right there. But he bought the Canadian hype.

@Nall412

3 ай бұрын

Ya gotta stop using Holland as an excuse. If this team ainit making playoffs by next season and making them consistently. Yzerman needs to take a hike.

@danb239

3 ай бұрын

@@Nall412 Stop using Holland as an excuse but hell no you don't get rid of Yzerman, you maybe consider getting rid of Lalonde or some of the other assistants

@danb239

3 ай бұрын

Holland did win a cup in the cap era

I remember two points Yzerman made at the start of the season when asked: 1. Tampa Bay is not going anywhere 2. Expecting playoffs this year is probably a bit too ambitious

Stevie, us REAL fans can see what you are doing and still believe! I don't want a team that pulls off one cup and fades away! I want another team that threatens to win the cup for 26 years in a row!!! Like the one we had before!!!!! Keep doing what you do!!!!

@robnolan4150

3 ай бұрын

This!!! Definitely this!!!

@BogeyParEtc

3 ай бұрын

Yuppp

@stevebell4853

3 ай бұрын

I'm not trying to piss on your parade or anything, but what you are asking for is literally not possible. No team in the modern NHL is going to be able to challenge for cups for 25 years in a row. This expectation is as unrealistic as the fans who are on Yzerman's ass asking for cups now. What IS possible, is that we'll have a window to challenge for multiple cups if we're lucky. We will have the opportunity to challenge for cups in that window, not a god given right to win them. Look at Tampa. *They had a window of about 3-5 years to be a serious contender.* This window took 10 years to build and open. When that window opened they won 2 cups. They had the opportunity to win more during that time, but you cant win em all, and 2 back to back cups is not bad going as it is. *They now require a rebuild.* This is the best you can hope for in the salary cap era NHL. I for one would be happy with that. But what you are asking for is unrealistic. You're asking for a 26 year window (sorry, but lol). This is not happening in a salary capped NHL. It was only possible in the pre-cap era, and even then, only because Mr I had very deep pockets with a willingness to use his resources at will. I'm all for shouting down spineless fans who are calling for Yzerman's head, but there's no point rushing to the other extreme and developing unrealistic expectations for the longer term.

@BogeyParEtc

3 ай бұрын

@@stevebell4853 it’s a hype comment, chill out on the deep dive stuff. We get it, no one goes to the playoffs 25 straight years

@stevebell4853

3 ай бұрын

@@BogeyParEtc If you dont like the deep dive stuff then perhaps its better if you avoid it in the future. Personally, I felt it was warranted. People seem to be losing their minds in all kinds of ways. Some straight thinking would be nice.

What I don't see is people can not see like the lions wings are building for long term success

We have two really good goalie prospects. Cossa and Trey Augustine. I think Trey's got tremendous potential.

@alexmathews9901

3 ай бұрын

I have watched Trey in person dude is so good. Also Lyon is good idk I think its lyon, Cossa and Reimer and we sell Husso

@nickfury8973

3 ай бұрын

Those two are two of the top 10 goalie prospects in the entire league

The Red Wings are too soft I need some tough guys hard checkers

@spencerdobkin9479

3 ай бұрын

💯

@ValhallaRaven

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 sure thing coach

We have improved by a minimum of 6 points per season since Yzerman took over. If we improve by a margin comparable to the average margin we've improved EVERY YEAR since Steve Y took over, we make the playoffs next season no problem.

@garychristie5294

3 ай бұрын

😂 nice to have low standards

definitely a lot of misplaced aggression here. Even Ken said "lets just win one against the rangers first if we get in" 1 little OTL was the difference in the season. Not beating the caps at home was another. I'm not mad. Next year we might not be as lucky the way things currently stand. Still there will be more drive to get there especially after this. Larkin said it himself, don't forget.

You know that no GM can fix what is broken in two or three seasons. There are to many variables in the rebuild. You have to try things, but they don't always work. Steve Y is the best at it. Tampa didn't Gey great right away. Its a puzzle. Not every piece fits right away. But if anyone can do it, he can. Keep up the good work.

@ericbejcek4986

3 ай бұрын

Its been 5yrs, that's what is pissing people off. No one was complaining after year 2 or 3 about the process because we all knew how bad the situation was.

Yup! The great and powerful Oz has masterfully positioned himself to make the Wings a new Dynasty. Maybe we should call him the ZOz. 😜 GO WINGS!!

Don't be surprised if it really does take 8+ years to make the playoffs. The young guys have to come in and they'll need time.

@The_Riptor

3 ай бұрын

8 years to get a playoff birth? Oh please 😂

@Staticseven

3 ай бұрын

@@The_Riptor If they do what they should have done in the first place which was bringing in the prospects. That way they could have let them grow into NHL players and figure out who to keep and deal away for better veterans. YOU is what is "Oh please" 🤣

@brando4422

3 ай бұрын

I think this year they should have given more youth a chance instead of veterans. They won't be serious cup contenders for at least 3 more years. What do I know, but I think this year easily set them back by trying to be relevant to soon and next year will be what this year probably should have been.

@Staticseven

3 ай бұрын

@@brando4422 Agreed. I think they brought in the wrong veterans. Had they given the young players NHL time they could have brought in better veterans down the road. Now their stuck with some contracts that takes up valuable cap space

I love " were not talking to the casual were talking to the real fans " love you D mac ❤❤

Yzerman did do a lot in terms of the roster Adding Debrincat and Kane were big moves. Sprong, Compher were nice pieces. Also having the three goalies was pivotal for them to have the run they did. Look I'm disappointed and frustrated like everyone else but when you take a step back they did make some big improvements this year. The team is much better offensively and if Edvinsson comes up sooner (was injured) they def get in. I'd like to see a different coach but I doubt it happens as I think Lalonde will get a third year. The wings should take that big step next year to not only being in the playoffs but winning a round or two if Yzerman can get another center and D man the roster will look good. They also need to keep Kane. That is key. I'd bring back Reimer as a backup but I think he will go with Husso and Lyon. I don't see Yzerman spending big $ on a goalie.

Fans are rightfully upset that after 5 years this team didn't make the playoffs. The "goalposts" moved from the start of the year to the end because (at times) the team played very well. After they got Kane, and then went on that winning streak in February, they looked like a dangerous playoff team. Stevie Y (along with the owner, other front office staff, and the coaches) decided to let the team sink or swim as it was (publicly stating that he felt they were good enough to make the playoffs as is,) but I feel it was to see how things played out. Why "rent" a player or 2 for a playoff push when if you kept the team As Is you'd better be able to see what, if anything, was truly needed? If they made the playoffs and however far they went, then great they'd assess after knowing what their strengths and weaknesses were. If they failed to make the playoffs, then they'd really have a crystal clear picture of their strengths and weaknesses. I understand why some may be upset, and some may be questioning Stevie Y, and I'm not just some Stevie Y slappy. I think they SHOULD have been in the playoffs and much improved by now as other teams "turned it around" within 5 years. But, other than them missing the playoffs again, I have liked almost everything they have done. Sure, I'd have loved it if they could've picked up a couple players to get them over the hump and into the playoffs, but what I REALLY want is a team built to win for decades. I think they are more than 1 or 2 pieces away (and that also is a criticism of Stevie Y) but if they can get the players to fill their holes in the off season that they feel can add to the team AND be around for more than just a playoff run...then that would put them into a much better place. Not contradictory because the circumstances would be different, but if they do that are easily playoff bound by next FA Deadline, maybe it would then make sense to pickup 1 or 2 guys for the playoff run if necessary. Hopefully their needs will be met this off season though so any FA deadlines moves would be either unnecessary or extra candy sprinkles atop their playoff team built sundae.

@bartsanders1553

3 ай бұрын

Those among us who are upset at our slow steady progress should take a trip to Buffalo.

@aliwantizu

3 ай бұрын

@@bartsanders1553 I tend to agree, but I can understand why people are unhappy. I really think I'll be patient thru next season, and then we shall see.

Shots against - Wings - 2657... SA 'Canes - 2101.... 550 shot differential x 90% save rate leads me to believe that as many as 55 goals were caused by poor defense. But, +/- numbers tell me it's also a team that doesn't backcheck or play a 200' game.

70% of the time they dump the puck behind the net they loose control of the puck.meanwhile 2 forward are rushing past the goalie to get behind the net

You guys put it perfectly 👌🏻

The wings need an upgrade at Goalie and Defense. We also need a couple of tough guys to stop these other teams from taking advantage of our stars, we need somebody to protect them. I have also come to believe that we do need an upgrade at coach also.

@a.N.....

3 ай бұрын

That's why I was sad at trade deadline when we lost klim, he's a warrior.

@moappleseider1699

3 ай бұрын

The defensemen and goalies are coming up. We don't need to mortgage the future for some "star defenseman" or "amazing goalie". Edvinsson was great and will be a full time Red Wing next season. Lyon got over used this season just like Ned did the year before. Husso and Lyon, when utilized properly, will be a great tandem next season. We get another guy like Reimer for those just in case times and we're good. We definitely need a tough guy or two. Muzzin is a free agent and he is definitely tough but at 35 with all his injuries does he help or hurt the team. Can he still play solid defense?

@jamesbrown5600

3 ай бұрын

@@moappleseider1699 I didn't say anything about trading and mortgaging our future, I don't care where the upgrades come from FA or Rookie. I think Edvinsson was great also, When I said upgrade I didn't mean an upgrade from him. The main thing is getting some tough guys, the Wings have to start physically punishing other teams like they do to us. Upgrade from Petry, we need another big strong Dman that can move people out of the front of the goal and protect our guys. Also, I want to see Igor Larionov come back as Head Coach.

@bartsanders1553

3 ай бұрын

We just need Perron to crosscheck the right player😂

@bartsanders1553

3 ай бұрын

​@@a.N.....I guess he's not working out in Ottawa. Although to be fair, not much else is.

Can Osgood still lace em up?

@a.N.....

3 ай бұрын

He's hilarious in the booth though.

They scored 274 But they conceded 270… which is 8th worst in the league That defense needs to improve tremendously You are as good as your defense And go as far as your defense More firepower won’t fix the issue

the season was progress. playoffs came down to losing that final game vs Washington. i am happy to see Lucas Raymond becoming superstar, Edvinsson getting ice time and all of the prospects. a bit disappointed that Berggren was not a regular. hopefully another quality defenseman is ready to step in, the goaltending is another year away from Cossa, i am excited to see who Stevie signs in free agency.

The Red Wings need Tomas Holmström 2.0 and new Grindline for them. Trust the Yzerplan.

Darren's comment.. if youre disappointed now. Wait till you lose in the playoffs. 43 year fan and you nailed it. Its not the goalie..defense.. as Yzerman said in the press conference... if youre not scoring goals you better be accountable not giving up goais as forwards. Darren... you in my eyes will be not known the " Claude " brawl but the impact you had as a true all around player your whole career!

One thing they can do is to bring in a vet goalie like John Gibson from Anaheim (Pat Verbeek connection there), who on his day, still a good goalie. And Yzerman can send some defense prospects to Ducks (or something like Berggren). But it also depends on Husso’s situation since Husso and Lyon are both under contract for another year, and you got Cossa in the AHL already.

@stevebell4853

3 ай бұрын

Yhea cos what we need is another shell shocked veteran goalie playing well below his career numbers, and we definitely need to give away futures for that, sure.

I’m 48 I been watching redwings since I was a kid actually started when probert and kocur where rookies and yzerman had been in the league what 2 or 3 yrs before that. I watched them lose and build into a playoff team and eventually a perennial cup contender it took 10 yrs and they did that thru drafts getting the core foundation of the team Federov kozlov zettergerg datsyuk Lindstrom osgood Konstantinov DMac and other draft picks I am can’t name them all off hand. They build the cup team thru their picks and added once they had the core set. This is what yzerman is doing. I do not get why everyone is on his ass. He knows how this process works and he is doing exactly that. He knows exactly what he’s doing and giving up their future in prospects to get a player just to lose in the first round kills the teams future. It’s plain as day if you look at it realistically. Yzerman is doing what he was hired to do. This team over achieved this season in my opinion to get to final game and win but not get in sucks but to even get to that point is a success and progress. I’m ready to see if they make the next step next yr get into the playoffs. I expect them to lose the round but it’s forward progress. So good job wings yzerman. Good season learn and grow getting that close just makes the players hungrier for it next season

Our team can't win for losing with a lot of the "fans." They still complain when the boys win, and say things like, "You need to do this or that," or, "Yeah you won but it was sloppy, do better." Not going to lie, I was sad at the circumstances that our boys didn't make the playoffs, especially after how hard they pushed, and the excitement of those last games, Ghost's "6 ft vertical" was pretty epic, Raymond's push, etc. Our team is capable, I think they proved that. Now at the end, I am looking at the fact DRW had 11 points more than last year, that speaks volumes on how the Yzerplan is going; chugging along, full speed ahead.

I dont care what anyone say's the wings did everything they had to to make the playoff's, the cards just had something different in store. some minor tweeks and they have a playoff run, maybe not a cup win but first maybe second round is very feesable. the yzerplan is coming together but it takes time to get all the wheels greased. they have cornerstones set, larken, raymond, sider, and others, and vets to help them learn. lets build on what has been accomplished this season and prepare for the next

So this year is not Red Wings year? And? They got youthful talent. Give it a couple of years and their bad times will be over

THANK YOU

I don't think goalie is as much an issue. Husso wasn't healthy. We need an upgrade on defense. Our offense was our defense a lot of nights and the goalies saved us a few games if I recall. Edvinsson will be better next year and so will Seider so we have that to look forward to Raymond can still get better and Debrincat will be back. People point to the collapse but in the same breath say well Larkin was out and the flu bug hit the team and our back up goalie went cold smh. Sounds like pretty good reasons to me so I look forward to next year. Maybe Kane comes back and stays a point a game guy. Can't wait to see!!!!!

D Mac secretly wearing an underwear that says “Stevie’s number 1 fan” 😂

d mac spitting truth!

It's the coach

Yzerman stated at the trade deadline that he was satisfied with his team. A man of his word. Trust the **Yzerplan?**

We improved 11 points this year. All we need are a couple more points next season and we’re in

Quick question, how many years do we trust the Yzerplan? 😅

I love Yzerman and believe in his process too - but it's become clear that there's nothing to gain from listening to Neal Ruhl because he will never criticize Yzerman under any circumstances

@jacobfolkringa8676

3 ай бұрын

My only criticism of Stevie is this coach that has a loser mentality The most ridiculous things said after their loss Not a fan of him if he doesn't change his mentality

Who is saying that Stevie Y did bad? Not sure Neil and D Mac are getting what many Wings fans were expecting. Again, like a broken record, when the Wings were up 10+ points on the teams that are now going to the playoffs (Isles, Caps) with about 3-4 weeks to go, they couldn't manage, even at half the pace of the Bolts' wins/losses, to secure that last wildcard spot, yes that last wildcard!!! Think back, better yet roll the tape, what you pundits were talking about when the Wings were in the first wildcard spot and on the virge of challenging 3rd place in their division. Then, after that Panther game and Larkin out for ages, the Wings went on a backwards roll nearly outside the last wildcard spot and eventually invited the Caps, Isles, and Pens to put them out of contention. Wings were so close and couldn't manage even to win one more game during that stretch. This could be attributed to the Wings organization as a whole, but you have to point to head coaching as the responsible party here. As close as the Wings were at the end of the season, Lalonde was making statements that just didn't sit well with many Wings fans, statements mirroring that of a defeatist. Didn't make any sense. Doesn't matter what the odds were at the beginning of the season on whether or not the Wings chances weren't good, they were smack in it right to the end. As a hockey club, you can't let one person out with an injury (Larkin) determine your hopes for a playoff birth. Too many excuses from pundits on protecting or shielding the Wings from any responsibility from not having made the playoffs. What were the predictions for Boston at the beginning of the season? Weren't they also a club destined for a rebuild as well? Bottom line is the Wings were that close, and gave it to the Caps and the Isles the chance to get into the post season, also obvious from some help by the Flyers. Just think, the Caps got in with the tie breaker results they had versus the Wings. If the Wings had one more point than the Caps, they would have been in the playoffs, and the Caps would've been watching from home. Excuses by pundits when the Wings were THAT CLOSE jist doesn't cut it for me. On his show/podcast, Mike Valenti was right. You guys (Neil and D Mac) are wrong (not because of Stevie Y, as Stevie Y relied on the results of the team's success at the trade deadline, but because the Wings were so, so close. Lalonde SHOULD have made it his top priority to get the Wings to the playoffs. He did not.)

when Steve got here the cupboard was bare, the cap space was used up and he inherited a boat load of bad contracts. the last one still has 2 years on the books. and if it wern't for the free points from lost overtime games and shootouts, we would be in the playoffs today.

This show, the Wing wheel podcast, and locked on redwings are the only good takes on the wings this season!

Get better defense. Opposing teams should not get straight looks into the goal from inside blue straight up almost unchallenged. Keep the shots from edge as much as possible. Sider needs speed skating practice. Goaltending is not the problem.

I trust yzerplan

I feel as if getting around Raymond and Seider extensions concomitantly will make this a worse team next year. For me, not making the playoffs the year after next will make for the portent of a failed rebuild attempt (which does happen because players don't pan out).

I'm sticking with Yzerman I think he knows what he's doing but he has made some bad signings. These guys are ridiculous though they are Redwings Pravda,

@ekim4363

3 ай бұрын

What GM doesn’t make a bad move or signing? It’s an imperfect job. McCarty would skate through a brick wall for Yzerman. He did that during his career and won four Stanley Cups (three with Yzerman as a player).

I get it he wants to make a bad ass team that’s good for at least a decade

This year: More points,less goals against,more goals….SY is the best

Anyone who thinks this is taking too long should go look at the roster and cap 5 years ago. The whole organization had to be gutted and rebuilt and the only one left is Larkin. Blame Holland not Yzerman, btw we’re still paying Abdelkadar, Hollands bad decisions aren’t even fully purged yet

Yeah definitely need a grind line like D Mac 😂 we need people to take out the trash 🗑️

I trust Lalonde very much!

Why won’t Bertie get a fair shot at this team?

They could go get a top end goalie and they will still look like shit until they can figure out the turnover issue, our goalies were hung out to dry all year

@trekbiker5110

3 ай бұрын

You are very correct!

@stevebell4853

3 ай бұрын

Not just this year either. It's been a feature of our play for a good few years now. Thats why we keep going through so many goalies. They get shellacked here for a couple of years and then they are burned out trying to stand on their heads to cover up for the shockingly bad defense we've had for years. I believe improvements will come in time so I'm not too worried. Yzerman isn't dumb, he see's what other people see and he wont stand for it indefinitely. I believe this issue will fix itself when we're not overly relying on rent-a-vets and when Steve's draftee's make up the core.

I'm not so sure if Yzerman knows exactly what he's doing. Red wings been going through transition for the last 5-6 yrs if not longer. We need to see results here! We need new coach, goalies,defence! Red wings went through 25 yrs playoff stretch before,and now 8 yrs no playoff. Unacceptable!!! Somebody have to start taking responsibility already. Enough of this bullshit about transition. Fans are demanding to see results or we will stop attending the games at the LCA!!!

@WilSexton

3 ай бұрын

you might be the only "fan" that'll stop going to the games. Don't even bother calling yourself a fan because you're not. You're sitting here in a KZread comment section saying Stevie doesn't know what he doing as if he didn't build a perenial playoff team in Tampa, hasn't drafted Raymond, Seider, Cossa and Edvinnson AND hasn't had this team on a continuous rise. You're a clown kid.

@daveyusmc4863

3 ай бұрын

Your crazy it takes time in Hockey 19 - 17 wins 20 - 19 wins 21 - 32 22 - 35 23 - 41 Progress what progress. 😂 be patient let the man work! Seider - Hit Raymond - Hit Edvinsson - looks like another HIT Come on man!

@Valeriy-le8gk

3 ай бұрын

@@daveyusmc4863 players will get injured. Inevitable. This is lame excuse. We need to play hockey,not figure skating. Enough excuses,they make big money!

I don't want to enjoy my season like Toronto and Edmonton just so my April and May is a failure. That's what 19 gets. That's what 25 gets and the boys. Steve got hear there was a turkey on the table. Now there's just peas. Boys are getting hungry. That's what you need.

Stevie had MESS to figure out when he took over (Ken Holland)so clean that mess up give him a chance only thing will work out k

Ville husso is back next season

@Detwhat

3 ай бұрын

I hope he plays a hell of alot better than he did this season.

@JambiPot

3 ай бұрын

Ville Husso may never play hockey again

Detroit has done great things this season than they have, but again Lalonde is a Tampa Ingredient that doesn't work, all I can say is we draft good this year, there's a great pool of draft picks, Ryder Ritchie, Henry Mews, Sam Dickinson, Macklin Celebrini, Tij Iginla the list goes on, and yes we are stuck with Lyon and Husso next season, there is no way Cossa is NHL ready. Kane will probably go back to Hawks, i'll be shocked if he sticks in Detroit. There is some bandages we need on this team in free agency, and we shall see. We started out great at the beginning of this season and finished in cinematic fashion. If we don't make the playoffs for 9th straight year, Yzerman's job may be in jeopardy as well as Lalonde.

If they don't make the playoffs it's because of players that don't have it mentally. Even Copp has to go imo

@Detwhat

3 ай бұрын

Imo, Copp was Yzermans worse signing. At least Compher chips in offensively. He had a career high in goals this season. His deal, is very similar to Copps. If we can find a way to trade him, that would be great.

@Staticseven

3 ай бұрын

@@Detwhat Agree on everything you said. For me a lot of guys that are mentally weak were exposed. Copp being one of them.

@W-A-R-HAWK

3 ай бұрын

End of the day Copp,Petry ,Holl even Husso and Lyon are just place holders. Our prospect pool is deep and getting deeper. They will start moving up every year starting next season.

@Staticseven

3 ай бұрын

@@W-A-R-HAWK Yeah,, I haven't been clinging to the 5yr thing and wasn't the one to say it. I always thought 6 or 7 BUT now I won't be surprised if it's even longer. My point this season was they actually had a chance and choked. It's because of the young talent mixed with some mentally weak veterans that got exposed. Goal-tending overachieved but did give them a good if not great chance.

what are we gonna do with all this squid

Biggest need is goaltending. Have to get Markstrom

@krog21

3 ай бұрын

Okay, well that is all good enjoy seeing Raymond or Seider in Calgary. It'll probably cost that much to get Calgary's attention.

@Nall412

3 ай бұрын

@@krog21I’d give up Raymond for a goaltender

@Detwhat

3 ай бұрын

​@@Nall412Nah, i wouldn't give up Raymond for a goalie. It would be different if we had 2 Raymond types on our team, but we don't. Theres other options out there that wont cost us a Raymond or Seider.

@bradymiller2852

3 ай бұрын

@@Nall412I want what you’re smoking

This team is not making the playoffs next season. 100% not happening lmao Unfortunetly the goalie duo will be back and if we come back with petry gost maata this team will absolutely blow . All I want is to see is edvinsson Berggren johansson kasper play full season next year. Not deluding myself next season. This team is going nowhere until the kids start playing and produce. Be nice to see Fabbri,holl,copp etc.. gone l don’t care if salary has to be retained . Want them gone Calling it now Draisaitl will be a redwing in the 2025 free agency. Oilers fail in the playoffs again he’s gone ... , be nice to add another physical defensive dman by then . one more year of pain folks

DMac is right about the casual fans. They don't see immediate results and then they start with critiques from the peanut gallery. They don't know how to look at the big picture and don't understand how far Stevie has brought this team from the virtual wasteland Ken Holland left it in when he departed. The wings are getting better not just in the short term, but in the long term as well. Trust the Yzer-plan!

Ok its not just me. So many Wings fans no nothing.

@EFunkRock

3 ай бұрын

*know

Biggest need? A coaching change. Coaching held this team back all season long.

@billfelsner6429

3 ай бұрын

No it didn't

@DefectiveSquash

3 ай бұрын

@@joextreme trade high on Cossa, go get Brady Tkachuk

@DefectiveSquash

3 ай бұрын

@@billfelsner6429 so dump and chase hockey is goof with no forecheck? Pull your head out of the clouds bud

@workshoptelescope

3 ай бұрын

@@DefectiveSquashThe circumstances that lead to dump-and-chase hockey are way more nuanced than it simply being a coach’s system. You arrive at it because the roster lacks the experience or, in Detroit’s case, skill to effectively carry the puck into the zone. This roster is not talented enough to play more robust possession-oriented hockey, hence the dump-and-chase.

@xeph-d9782

3 ай бұрын

@@DefectiveSquash Why would Ottawa want to trade with us when Yzerman fleeced them in the DeBrincat trade. Also considering this team needs a solid goaltender, if Cossa becomes that guy for another team Yzerman is going to look pretty stupid

Trade raymond and Cossa 😂idiots ...wouldn’t take those guys to land a markstrom 😂 we don’t need a markstrom though or a goalie cause we won’t win shit next season regardless if we had him or not and Cossa will be ready in 25-26 . Be nice to get an upgrade but there’s no one out there. Sign a guy who can be the next lindgren and if husso has to be the 3rd guy and go on waivers nobody will ever touch him. Otherwise wait

No he doesnt

@ekim4363

3 ай бұрын

Yzerman did a decent job in Tampa, prove me wrong.

Homeboy says he talks to us like he talks to people sitting on a barstool. So, HE is that drunk old beliggerent guy at the end of the bar every night spouting out about "Kids nowadays got no respect...When I was a kid......"

Yzerman,Detroit's golden boy gets a free pass...

@ekim4363

3 ай бұрын

So when are rebuilds guaranteed? I’d like to know. Hell, Bowman should’ve been fired by your measure when he didn’t get a Stanley Cup in his first two years as wings coach. Yzerman took over a maxed credit card from the last lazy years of Holland and the two Covid seasons. Done pretty well, what Yzerman did in Tampa is great, outside of not winning a Stanley Cup.

@Detwhat

3 ай бұрын

The team has improved every year since he's been here. Do you think you could've done a better job? Fact is it took him 2yrs to get rid of Hollands mess. We were in salary cap hell. We had an empty prospect pool. Yzerman bleeds Red and White. He played his entire career here. He played on one leg to win the cup in 01/02. He will do everything in his power to make this team a contender. It will just take a little time. We damn near made the playoffs this year. We finished above Buffalo and Ottawa. The two teams that everyone said were better than us. Our blue chip prospects are not ready yet. We didn't have the luxury to get 1st, 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Or a couple 1st overall picks like NJ, NYR, Buffalo. Instead we get picks 6th and up. We got Raymond at 4th overall, when we were the WORST team in the league. So we have to build our teams a little differently. Also Yzerman is using Scotty Bowman philosophy. He goes after two way forwards and defenseman. If Holland would've drafted Hughs instead of Zadina. We would be a much different team. Holland bought the Canadian hype. Zadina was great in Canadian juniors and Canadian scouts and pundits look down on American college hockey. I was so disappointed when we picked Zadina. We desperately needed defensemen. Which is why in Yzermans first draft he selected Seider. All the "experts" said it was a horrible pick. Just give yzerman time. He knows how to win. I'm 38yrs old. I watched how competitive that man is. He hates losing

He needs to go if we don’t make it next year

@ekim4363

3 ай бұрын

Always easy to say when there are no names brought up to replace Yzerman. Come with a replacement or it’s bellyaching.

@Nall412

3 ай бұрын

@@ekim4363Kris Draper

@YooperHatesOhioState

3 ай бұрын

@@ekim4363 I don’t want him to leaf’s but if he can’t get us in the postseason why let him be here

The team is not realistically playoff-caliber next year.

@socialmediag5485

3 ай бұрын

Ppl are deluding themselves and will be so dissapointed next season lol 100% not making the playoffs, would have been way better off to have got the 9th pick

Yzerman signed Holl and Petry to horrible contracts. That doesn’t seem like someone who knows what they are doing.

@nickfury8973

3 ай бұрын

He didn’t sign Petry. It shows you don’t know anything He traded for him with much of his cap retained

@leonardZandi

3 ай бұрын

@@nickfury8973 Still took on 2 years and gave up a 4th round pick. Which is worse than signing him.

@mr.otterpockets3854

3 ай бұрын

Petry was picked up on a trade.. Lindstrom and a 4th in 25. It's worth every penny. Lindstrom was then claimed of waviers by Anaheim and played some of his best hockey. He saw the possibility of becoming a career AHLer. And finally stepped up. Only after 2 teams gave up on him did he prosper.

Yzerman couldn’t find much in the way of D last year. Holl was a bust, Petry should retire, and Ghost is an add to the O, but not really the D.

Im sorry but McCarty is a yzerman Slappy

9 points over the cut line in February. Lost by a point at the end?? Lost twice to Arizona… FAIL.

Yzerman is 100% on the lukewarm seat. I'm sorry but 5yrs in and its not good enough. Petry, Holl, Chiarot, Lyon, Husso, Nedljovic, Kostin, Reimer, were weak/bad signings ; The team has collapsed 2 years in a row ; the team was not prepared for at least a couple dozen games ; and lastly the wings are not going to be able to sign all their FAs due to the cap & I do not trust hardly any of our prospects to fill the production gap next season. Hopefully, Yzerman goes and gets someone of note but I dont know if he'll be able to

THIS PUTS US FANS IN SAME SITUATION AS BEING LIONS FANS! EXTREMELY EXCITED FOR NEXT YEAR! KEEP IT UP STEVE

Most they shouldn't keep. But Yzerman needs to step it up. The "Yzerplan" is STALLED. Time to jump start it, or forget it.

@WapitalismandWreedom

3 ай бұрын

improved by 11 points and you're saying it's stalled? wtf were you expecting?

@chrisputnam9809

3 ай бұрын

@@WapitalismandWreedom, playoffs this year. Uncle Fester needs to go.

@WapitalismandWreedom

3 ай бұрын

@chrisputnam9809 why were you expecting playoffs? I get hoping for playoffs, but expecting? I agree lalonde should go but damn man. stalled? no shot

@ekim4363

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisputnam9809 Did Yzerman guarantee playoffs this past season, he didn’t. There are no timetables with becoming a contending team, or else long streaks of not winning would not exist.

@chrisputnam9809

3 ай бұрын

@@WapitalismandWreedom, so when are the Cossas of the world going to get here and who in the prospect pool is lighting it up scoring-wise? Edvusson is young so he gets the benefit of the doubt, but his feet are still cement. He moves nowhere near as well as Sider, plus he's not abrasive either.