“In a world deluged by irrelevant information, CLARITY IS POWER” ~ Yuval Noah Harari

@rodneyedward1064

2 жыл бұрын

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@sonnyahmad3378

2 жыл бұрын

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@ottokash3761

2 жыл бұрын

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I choose(paradoxically) to say "Truth and only the truth shall set you free "... fantastic ideas and knowledge is presented here...

Very Grateful About Prof. Harari ... InTo Speaking Up ...

The easiest people to manipulate are those who are overconfident about their own freewill, judgement, knowledge and ability. Amen.

Thanks for this lecture

Very coherent model of the world is offered, taking into account past and future trends.

Thank you Yuval!

Omg!!!! Yuval is back!

Videographer: Please display his slides while he's speaking. Thanks for the excellent content.

Harari is a genius of popular explanations of behavioral theory.

I loved homo sapiens and I now started reading homo deus. Excellent.

Well done

HomoDeus is a must read. It will be interesting to hear Harari and Harris discuss free will in Sept.

@kuntalsarma5106

5 жыл бұрын

John Hooker with Sam Harris?

@johnahooker

5 жыл бұрын

yes, 2nd week in Sept. in San Fran they both take the stage and both believe strongly against free will; he was on podcast before; now they are going to do be doing a live stage show

@pompair

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, hopefully the discussion gets published online. Although it would be interesting to hear a discussion between two opposing viewpoints rather than symmetric. Can't make the occasion, but I'd ask Harris/Harari: "If we don't have free will, then why should anyone's opinion about anything matter?" I think such a world would be unlivable, since we'd basically all be robots - which we aren't. I work with software teams, managers, organizations, and let me tell you those systems reveal people's suprising pet peeves, asynchronities, curiosities, if effect their free will. I know my will is free because I've been in situations that test it and because I've come to contact with it in meditation. Too much thinking can obscure our 'field of vision' inwards, or towards free will.

@squamish4244

5 жыл бұрын

I would argue that we can't make a determination (lol) on free will until we understand the hard problem of consciousness. If we don't know anything about the faculty that enables us to be aware of anything, how can we know whether that faculty is subject to determinism or not? If consciousness does not arise from the brain, then what does that mean about free will? Most philosophers that support determinism just say "Consciousness arises from the brain, period" and ignore anything that argues it does not. Harris is like this. Harari is somewhat more open, arguing that is only a dogma and we need more research. I also would like an opposing viewpoint to debate him. Harari is rising in prominence rapidly and I don't want him to turn into an arrogant jerk like a lot of public intellectuals eventually do. Steven Pinker became a prick many years ago and Harris is kind of turning into one now.

@pompair

5 жыл бұрын

immanueL - thanks for the link, didn’t find exact answer but it was very nice discussion, definitely worthwhile my time :)

Not everybody's emotions are equal either. Some people are more emotionally stable, and comprehend their own feelings better, than others.

@sartemisa1

5 жыл бұрын

Perserra What about influencing feelings? He barely mention " manipulate " at the end of his speech + for the lady's question. Plus the logical fallacies he's playing us / with

“Organisms are algorithms and algorithms can hack organisms”

@bapts70

5 жыл бұрын

Commonly, Algorithms define a process or procedure or steps that start with an initial state and end up in a final state with intermediate well defined states in between; the transition between states may not be deterministic but the states are. Unless there is a better and more modern definition, I'm not sure if we can conclusively say "organisms are algorithms" - this is too simplistic and clearly ignores our lack of scientific understanding of such vastly complex organism as "human", much less, it's consciousness. there are macro state changes in our mind based on stimuli, which may be approximated by algorithms but, trying to implement a "functional brain" with some reasonable complexity of "human brain" that is "conscious" is combinatorially impossible using the same way and material used by computers today. For that a "consciousness preserving matter" has be first developed, invented....

@AboveAnimal

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for delayed response, it came to my access just now. Thanks for finding the key point from this talk. I think hacking is happening due to Organism who is involved in setting an algorithm. Information generates thoughts and algorithm is by product of thoughts. And when human get new information, thoughts change and ofcourse new algorithm comes in function. So the question is who is driving? Organism or algorithm...

Hello! Have we so easily given up free will? If the algorithms can produce infinite number of 'decision making patterns' how many more options do we need really? And just as a side-note, not only can we exercise free-will, we have also taken the liberty of shaping and molding our environments as a way of re-rewriting algorithms as you might put it.

The questions about humanism is like a spear in my mind and heart , touches my inner core. Caused me to think and feel. Human beings are not the center of the universe.

What brilliant insight. I prefer his stark but objective manner to the subtle or not so subtle manipulation tactics others use to get you to side with their point of view. There are a few layers I can’t see, but they’re not to serve the ego’s superficialities and I appreciate that. YT’s algorithms got it right by suggesting I listen to him. He is everything I find mentally stimulating. Great topic, excellent delivery.

You are prole I'm listening speak fluent yuvari so keep it tell the world the truth about my situation I think we need to change met them for me I'm completely changed my wish is to met with them .

Brilliant, accurate and disturbing lecture, as all Harari’s ones. I would like to point out that the woman who asked the question is the epitome of something he has just described: She was chosen NOT because she would have the best question, but simply based on faulty “humanistic” criteria such as: a) being a woman from Harvard (and what it symbolizes: humanist, liberal, democrat, intellectual, "feminist" - in the limited and unilateral manner with which Western feminism chooses or ignores issues), etc. . b) having constraints that prioritize her above the others (hierarquical, geographic and temporal: she needed to be in person (in atoms) elsewhere because she would give the next lecture in a short time). ~~~ It was fun watch her use a subjective quote (which expressed her opinion in a “erudite/impressive” and harvard-like way from a “respected” source, Shakespeare no less.) by "googling" it WHILE he was speaking (googling because the whole text of the piece / of all plays by Shakespeare / all theatricals / etc does not fit in her human memory/data-base) and by having insisted in fumbling and trying to find it in her hand-held machine/cellphone in order to formulate her question (analogical communication inefficiency),etc…. ~~~ And I would also like to applaud the elegant and diplomatic manner in which Yuval Harari chose to reply, instead of pointing out that she, herself, was the answer, with the choices that she made (her behavior and words to formulate the question). The point is that his chilling lecture threatens all she stands for, the organisation she represents, the “Humanistic thought”, because Humanistic ethics & symbolic values will not stand the scrutiny of logical/machine-like intelligences, such as AI.

@juanluisclaure6485

5 жыл бұрын

the second paragraph is a wonderfull observation, open minds

@macarius8802

5 жыл бұрын

Bravo!

@yourelawyered

5 жыл бұрын

Very astute observations. May I ask, as humanism is being pushed aside, what can we replace it with so as not to concentrate power to a handful of people, being able to capriciously or malevolently decide the future of humanity?

@theprocess6581

5 жыл бұрын

I would like to reply in depth but I need to be in atoms elsewhere. lol

@tinkywinky5586

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting that after such a long and good lecture by Harari, you spend a long time slamming a woman who was not even important. It is all about political correctness for people like you. Get over yourself. Have something intelligent to say about the lecture rather than going on an anti-feminist rant. Has it occured to you that maybe she was just a stupid person, regardless of gender? Bleh.

From reading the comments its Interesting how many religious, free market wing nuts are being triggered by this lecture. Harari doesn't know what the future holds and he is certainly not advocating for a certain type of future society. He is simply describing reality and is highlighting some potential pitfalls based on current trends. If humanity is going to survive (I'm sorry fundamentalists) we need to have this conversation

@nishas1271

5 жыл бұрын

Ok

good

Do you know any podcast, talk, video of Yuval "against" opposing viewpoints ? Just to change...

@xpartanreach

5 жыл бұрын

Georgio Poulos you can read the comments lol BUT you can also read Roger Penrose's books on these topic (for example the new mind of the emperor) or many other books on neuroscience ,computer science and physics, though they're waaaay harder to understand than Yuval's books and Yuval theory thinks about an useless class but also during the industrial revolution it was thought that there was going to be a useless class, but contrary to that, more people has now more jobs than ever before, so Yuval's predictions for the future are kind of useless.

Fascinating 😅. Inspiration 😅😊

I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that Homo Sapiens changed my life. I didn't agree with all of his assertions in the book but wasn't that the point? To get people thinking about the issues around us and then to make informed decisions about the part we want to play in the world. Today I feel like a born-again humanist.

@guillemetteholder7276

5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Shepherd w

We need Resource Based Economy as proposed by the Venus Project!

Yuval Noah Harari, as a advanced practitioner of Vipassana meditation, knows free will very well. He needed to exert a tremendous amount of it learning this technique. Just learning to focus and refocus on one's breath and not be swept away by the mind's ruminations takes tremendous free will. It is hard work which requires wrestling gently with one's own mind. If that is not free will, I don't know what is.

About free will: Studies have shown that what you BELIEVE about free will change behaviour. But how is that possible if behaviour is deterministic (the "no free will model") Beliefs can't effect a predetermined brain, yet they do

@ConspiracyCraftersStudio

5 жыл бұрын

beliving and experience gathered from life and learning create new behaviours based on newly gathered data, if they are potent enough to rewrite at least a part of human wiring

Good talk. Thanks.

29:30 is quite important... Democracy and Co.

did the algorithms evolve with natural selection too? what is the first point when the algorithm got the "run" command? :)) what started the whole process? is the randomness in the universe also the result of algorithms? is existence just a perpetual creation of universe simulations? :))

I've been impressed a lot so far. I'd like to use his books in class.

I can't wait to read this book

Does anyone know which conference this was in?

@uwepleban3784

5 жыл бұрын

Shibhansh Dohare Talk was given at the annual assembly of the German Ethics Council (Deutscher Ethikrat) on July 27. Link: www.ethikrat.org/annual-meetings/human-dignity-in-our-hands-challenges-from-new-technologies/

the person who asks the question is already unable to function without her smartphone

The one most significant challenge for 21st century is by no doubt climate change...if we don't take serious (!) measures adressing the topic on a worldwide scale the "brief history of tomorrow" is gonna be a very very brief one for humankind as we know it...

If more customers buy Yeezy sneakers over Crocket and Jones shoes does it mean that Yeezy sneakers are a better product than Crockett & Jones oxfords? They cost about the same, in parallel market Yeezys cost even more.

where was this talk given?

36:02 Our history is what we know through stories told verbally, TV, radio, libraries... the internet's replacing all of that. Everything we know will be moderated by ever more potent AI. There is some irony in the potential that humanity really may be beholden to an intelligent designer that lives in the sky and is in almost every way, a god (or more likely, many gods).

Democracy beat dictatorship in the 20th century because democracy distributes the processing of information and goods while dictatorship centralizes them. In the 21st century the processing can be done by AI so can be efficient even when it's centralized, that leads to digital dictatorship. And that is why I think to prevent dictatorship, blockchain should be in use in order to prevent all kinds of centralization of processing of information, production and goods

This video is suggested to me by KZread alogethm after 3 years. In this three years humanity has traveled a very strange and unprecedented way of life for last two years of man made and managed pandemic. Every fear/scenario Harari discussed that day was practiced. In my understanding this pandemic is in true sence of exploitation of biotechnology and information technology disruption for making unprecedented wealth extortion. Where sane traditional voices were mufelled by KZread owners and were selectively removed from public view. Even this video didn't collect 300 original comment in last three years take me with utter surprise and make me believe in those disruptive power of alogerithems . But ultimately this is what we only have. Declination of human free will is rampantly disrupted with fake news and unrealistic sentimental tv discussions in big democracies like India and USA where federal powers are systematically taken under central authority, that makes autocracy to take control much sooner than we ever imagined.

Respected Mr. Hariri! Only one question: Are you delighted looking forward to our future "Roboter-God" able to read our emotions ... or do you regret this lost "Myth" (like you named it) of our TRUE LOVE-feelings? Concerning this "Love-question" your answer in an other Video was ... love as "a hormonal rush"! Here I do not mean this modern MAKING love, which is supposed to be so much aerobic "fun", but I am considering this mutually FELT love, being this aware union of two Soul-Selves! Concerning my question, you can always ask your partner as well ...: Thank you for answering. With regards, A. L. M.

I’m not sure I agree simply because we don’t know how other technologies will advance along with information and biotech systems. I think he’s correct that our society will increasingly delegate decision making to artificial systems, but, I’m not entirely convinced central processing of entire societies will occur, despite the fact that would probably fix a lot of problems. I appreciated his understanding of how humans are duped in the modern world, however, and I wish it was propagated to the extent that the general public would begin to understand how their certainty, bias, and trust are being manipulated for others’ gain.

@ROBERTBROWN090564

5 жыл бұрын

azraelbatosi I think you answered your question. We will centrally process entire societies because we have no other option if we want to fix our deepest problems, e.g. Climate change, overcoming death etc. The train has left the station and there is no handbrake.

Wow!

Feelings Toward A Particular Person ... Organically Problematic Enough ... Let Alone InOrganically ... To Feel ... As We Each Know It ...

It is funny how people in west world are creating marketing system for companies even without their knowledge. The old woman at the end of the lecture said "... it's out of Hamlet. I want to quote exact words, but my IPHONE is not bringing up..." instead of cellphone or even shorter phone she used IPHONE to describe the device.

@mickelodiansurname9578

5 жыл бұрын

poliku miku hmmmm.... Older women who buy iPhones might also like these other apple products.

@The22on

4 жыл бұрын

Did you notice that her phone had a rotary dial on it? It's very old, like her.

The nonexistence of understanding of what free will is ain't the same as nonexistence of free will )))

Greatings to Yuval Harari, who claims to be animal...So cheers to the animals. I think that animals have no moral laws. Love one another, who has not broken this word in the world? Yuval Harari MADNESS !!! WHY DO MAD PEOPLE WANT TO LEAD US, WHERE THEY WILL TAKE US??? WHY WE SHOULD LISTEN TO BLIND LEADERS. WE LIKE TO LISTEN TO FAIRY TALES WHEN WE REALLY KNOW THE TRUTH. EVERYTHING IS SO SIMPLE AND THIS ENDLESS THINKING AND EXCAVATION LEADS ONLY TO DARKNESS. CONFUSION! THE MORE WE KNOW AND ACHIEVE, THE GREATER DARKNESS WE GET, WE ARE DRIVING DEEPER AND DEEPER IN THE WATERS OF LOSTNESS. OUR WISE MAN -FOOLS, OUR EDUCATED - CHEATERS, OUR RICH - EXPLOITERS.... WHAT'S NEXT? A ROTTING WORLD AND ITS RISING ODOR...

These seems like it could be the most important video on KZread. I recommend Jaron Lanier along similar lines, but Hariri is much more focused and has more fully formed ideas. Lanier is still insightful. Look him up.

"What matters is not your emotions, but what the algorithm says."... and the Harari proceeds to give an extended example of using algorithms precisely to detect emotional response.

@squamish4244

5 жыл бұрын

Yes...the point is that the algorithm can manipulate your emotions to a degree never possible before.

@ekkliebtalles3511

5 жыл бұрын

You blame religion on being emotional, yet try to find an algorithm to make more emotions.

@shapeoperator

5 жыл бұрын

@valar: That is one possible interpretation, but that is not really made explicit in this lecture. He merely discusses the possibility of understanding humans using statistical tools to a much higher degree of precision than humans understand each other using the various cultural and psychological heuristics that we use. That is emphatically not the same as "what matters is what the algorithm says".

@squamish4244

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree, it comes down to a value judgment about what you choose to do with the information the algorithm provides in the end. Algorithms could and I believe will work wonders for human happiness and well-being, and I do not mean in the accumulation of wealth but in the understanding of reality and of our own minds. Harari's fear, and mine, is that we are starting from a place of profound ignorance about what we really want and what we really are as conscious beings. "There is nothing more dangerous than dissatisfied and irresponsible gods who do not know what they want."

Yuval, few British people are British subjects (maybe Commonwealth citizens)

As he said, never underestimate human stupidity. The woman was an example

In his sleep Yuval has a dream in which the world actually swallows the stuff that he comes out with. There's nothing new in what he writes and says and he knows it. So when he wakes up he thinks it was just a dream. But then he finds out that they really have swallowed it. Wow. His next message for the world is that you can fool all the people all of the time. But he knows he'd better keep that to himself.

You can fool some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time

The book AI Technology - explore infinite knowledge by L.T. Tzur.

131 unlikes? for what reason? :(

The lady at the end was unable to accept Hard Determinism😂

44:34 "My main fear is not in the end from artificial intelligence , it's from natural stupidity."

Seems to me that the author mixes different concepts and simplifies some phenomena in order to objectivate his idea.

@kuntalsarma5106

5 жыл бұрын

Akbar Murataliev Go read the Qoran, all answers r within it. Don't forget to wage jihad.

@christossavvides5153

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Could you elaborate? With examples?

@ogurych

5 жыл бұрын

Well, for example, when Yuval describes the evolution of the state system, like many other pro-western thinkers, he takes no notice over the one-party China. Or an example with bakeries. Centralized management for a long time successfully provided Soviet citizens with everything necessary. There is an opinion in our media field that food shortages were part of sabotage campaign by the part of Soviet elites, not an element of a system crisis. In my opinion, goverment system with elements of techno-communism is not the past, but the future of mankind, although for many people in the West word "communism" is a taboo.

@njits789

5 жыл бұрын

+Akbar Murataliev Although I believe capitalism has its flaws, I am not very enthusiastic about giving communism a second run. Democratic capitalism has a flexibility that no other system has ever produced. Maybe you care to explain what you mean with 'elements of techno-communism'?

@chfgbp6098

5 жыл бұрын

njits789 : i think he meant better planning with big data. The debate is somewhat moot. China doesnt run on communism. It s a capitalist system with authoritarian governance. Like Singapore. Their Rhetoric IS jsut fluff.

"... the easiest people to manipulate for example with fake news is people who trust too much in their own freewheeling... We don't have free will, but we do have will, we do have choice, we do have some power left." It's perfect!! Thanks Professor Yuval!!

@The22on

4 жыл бұрын

wtf is freewheeling?

this is a great speech

Al Gore's rhythm will make my PC telescopic. Got it.

It is an exercise into the Marxist understanding of free will, and that is why the Soviets had terrible times with quantum physics where particles seemed to have free will or at least they behaved unpredictably, and did not consult with the laws of nature. Your body chemistry determines your 'free will' what to eat; your psychological needs determine your need for a life partner, and everything else is determined by how good is Google's AI at reading your needs. Even if you see someone drop their wallet, then you do not have a choice but give it back if you were honest (or unreal and unwise by other standards) or keep it if you were a jerk (or real and wise by those other standards). To cut a long story short, or make a short one long, let's do what all Marxists do: cite the classics (not because we are dogmatics but because the classics are always right). Lenin says 'Engels says: “Hegel was the first to state correctly the relation between freedom and necessity. To him, freedom is the appreciation of necessity. ‘Necessity is blind only in so far as it is not understood.’ Freedom does not consist in the dream of independence from natural laws, but in the knowledge of these laws, and in the possibility this gives of systematically making them work towards definite ends. This holds good in relation both to the laws of external nature and to those which govern the bodily and mental existence of men themselves-two classes of laws which we can separate from each other at most only in thought but not in reality. Freedom of the will therefore means nothing but the capacity to make decisions with knowledge of the subject. Therefore the freer a man’s judgment is in relation to a definite question, the greater is the necessity with which the content of this judgment will be determined. . . . Freedom therefore consists in the control over ourselves and over external nature, a control founded on knowledge of natural necessity (Naturnotwendigkeiten).”' www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1908/mec/three6.htm

Huge heuristic value. Thank you so very much for your talk! 💖💖💖

The lady from the Harward is a metaphor of the old inefficient, inaccurate and defeatable free will world. Perfectly summing the talk.

Yuval Harari Model Live = algorithm Human = belongs to live set Human evolution = algorithm modifies himself and / or Live = algorithm Evolution = algorithm modifies himself

Human Feelings Are Dependent ...

Good talk, lots of good insights but with saying that central information processing may take over he jumps too far. Yes, computing power of large computers are rising but so is their number and the computing power of smaller devices. There is no centralisation in IT and AI. Additionally, human emotions may be only computations of a more complex form but they evolved to respond to a complex environment and they are likely to have the potential to evolve in response to a changing environment. Having said that, this is an important speech because he turns our attention to real and important questions of our future. He also closed on a similar note with his answer to the question he got.

This guy is spot on. We need to invent a decentralized system which outproduces centralized AI systems, i.e. a public blockchain AI app with a decentralized database, which functions as an equivalent to all internet application that we use today.

@karentanner4002

Жыл бұрын

He is evil

He uses Humanism and Liberalism interchangeably

Please put legend in português or spanish. Thank you.

@noelgarland3068

5 жыл бұрын

no hace falta, no pierdas tu tiempo, este señor es la marioneta del neoliberalismo, solo dice cosas grandilocuentes sin ninguna base... se hizo mundialmente famoso porque el 'creador' de facebook incluyó su libro en su lista de libros favoritos sino nadie sabría quien es hoy.... imaginate por qué

Not Every One ... In Spite Of Having A Driver's Licence ... Has The Privilege To Drive A Motor Vehicle ... Driver's Education ... Does Not ... Count On ... Safety As Much As It Should ... Especially, Those Who Are Lacking Mechanical Appreciation ...!

I am stoned, therefore I am.

HAMLET: I do not well understand that. Will you play upon this pipe? GUILDENSTERN: My lord, I cannot. HAMLET: I pray you. GUILDENSTERN: Believe me, I cannot. HAMLET: I do beseech you. GUILDENSTERN: I know no touch of it, my lord. HAMLET: It is as easy as lying. Govern these ventages with our fingers and thumb, give it breath with your mouth, and it will discourse most eloquent music. Look you, these are the stops. GUILDENSTERN: But these cannot I command to any utterance of harmony. I have not the skill. HAMLET: Why, look you now, how unworthy a thing you make of me! You would play upon me, you would seem to know my stops, you would pluck out the heart of my mystery, you would sound me from my lowest note to the top of my compass, and there is much music, excellent voice, in this little organ, yet cannot you make it speak. 'Sblood, do you think I am easier to be played on than a pipe? Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, you cannot play upon me.

When AI occupy all living, it means Human is dying without berry!

What a brilliant mind!

"If it feels good, do it" no wonder everyone is so fucked up.

Organic Food ... vs ... GMO Item

Harari= Lost soul

Please make the questions short and STOP grandstanding.

I thought this was about his new book? He didn't say one single thing that he hasn't already mentioned in "Homo Deus".

So let's hope we become irrelevant and future dictators just leave us alone. If you become a cyborg demigod just enjoy your life . you don't need us

Such waste of time to give the opportunity to a predetermined half listener and half busy to find the support for her mind from other heavyweights sources. But the answer was really well thought and appropriate even for amateur thinkers.

37:50質問

Does algorithms make ww3?

I am shocked that the first person that asked a question took several minutes of fumbling around. This should not have been permitted - to hold up the entire audience because she couldn't use a cell phone. But wtf is with HER? Where does she think she is that she can give a mini-lecture? The audience is not there to hear her. If I was there, I'd have a hard time not shouting out (in as secretive a way as I could, being that I'm shy) "NEXT QUESTION!".

The lion is not interested in a banana , man

Around 19:00 - Now the STASi have the possibility … 😉

99 of energy will eat 1 per cent

Shame on all the so call. Intellectuals! Listen, and learn! Cheers from Guatemala City!

At reminds me tower of babel, were multi languages installed to disperse mob

"no technology is deterministic" " i dont believe in free will" 45:00 contradict yourself harder, will ya?

@cesarrodriguez8893

5 жыл бұрын

Technology is not deterministic and there is no human free will. How do these statements contradict? When he talks about "free will". He means the the mechanism that guides human decisions day to day. Why do people do one thing vs. another?

@Jaredthedude1

5 жыл бұрын

Cesar Rodriguez An argument for the lack of free will is a deterministic universe. If a technology can act non-deterministically why couldn't a human. It definitely loosens if not contradicts the aruments Harris etc al give for the complete lack of free will.

@jimjimmy3505

5 жыл бұрын

>>An argument for the lack of free will is a deterministic universe Nope, the counterargument to a free will is not a “determinism”, it’s a “randomness”. Actually, it can be shown that causality doesn’t exist, we’re just random “snapshots” of the universe dispersed in an infinite “dust”.

@Jaredthedude1

5 жыл бұрын

Jim Jimmy Aah right, so Sam Harris's Book On Free Will where he presents these arguments does not exist, I get ya.

@Jaredthedude1

5 жыл бұрын

Jim Jimmy also care to reference your "can be shown" argument?

Hello Sabancı

@Melo-qs4xp

2 жыл бұрын

helloo

Like everything - AI will start off pure, and then humans will screw it up.

There are 2 main takeaways from this very impressive talk: ① for some reason Harari doesn't want to call a spade a spade and explicitly acknowledge that what he calls "humanism" is actually *utilitarianism* (not straw-man instantaneous hedonic utilitarianism, but a properly-developed framework with utility interdependence, and with expectations and uncertainty); ② Harari perhaps needs to think about whether others have already moved past the constraints of carbon-based biology; the universe is 10 billion years older than our planet, and it seems obvious that Earth was a relative latecomer to the game... so it seems monumentally hubristic to assume that we would be the first species to transcend a carbon-based biological framework. The best bet is that once we do transcend that framework (and become quasi-virtual non-biological entities) we will find out that the universe is awash with intelligent, nanoscopic, non-biological life. Lastly, I think it's pretty easy to show that distributed computation will always be superior to centralised computation. Talk of ML and AI with massive databases as potentially superior, requires some form of monopoly advantage (e.g., patent protected algorithms or proprietary databases)... and furthermore, requires that these monopoly advantages persist. That's the lowest-probability scenario - the only reason it persisted in human societies was as a result of political interference (i.e., politicians legislating to protect the profit flows to creator- *exploiting* endeavours - like Sony and other book, film and music *distributors* ). And even then, as technological constraints weakened (i.e., copying 'protected' data became easier), respect for monopoly proivileges became largely-voluntary (who here has *never* downloaded *any* book, song, film or TV program using P2P?). The future is distributed; the future is nanoscopic; the future is hyperintelligent; the future is non-biological. It's pretty obvious - so long as we can stop the weaponisation of these technologies by the parasitic political class... otherwise we fall off the evolutionary balance beam on the wrong side, and go extinct. *Autant dire que* the "Great Filter" is another term for "the ability of the system to prevent political capture".

Monumental thinker. But Yuval really needs lessons in how to deliver a speech - tone of voice, pacing, wit, breathing, moments of gravitas... the use of careful rhetoric. If he mastered that - then he would destroy all before him.

There is no free will, so why don't you do what we tell you to do? It's for the common good.

So this guy has literally never heard of Ed Bernays. Everything he wants to say non existent A.I will do Advertising has spent the entire last century doing.

He loves bananas, no doubt. 🤗🤗

1) The first ten minutes of the talk are spent to the presentation of a very limited, very narrow and insufficient idea of what humanism is.

@fernandopintopt

5 жыл бұрын

2) The considerations about feelings and algorithms seems to me too rough...

@fernandopintopt

5 жыл бұрын

3) at 28:00 minutes I ask myself if Prof. Yuval has ever read "Brave New World" of Aldous Huxley...

@fernandopintopt

5 жыл бұрын

4) Interesting, many rough concepts, bringing important misconceptions. No, really not brillant.

@GumbyTheGreen1

5 жыл бұрын

FYI, you can put that all in one comment. See: 1) Point 1 2) Point 2 3) Point 3 4) Point 4

@ROBERTBROWN090564

5 жыл бұрын

Fernando Pinto He praises Brave New World to the high heavens in his latest book '21 lessons for the 21st century'. Why don't you read it?