Only way to end a perfect day is with a new upload from Ron

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Thanks brother! I appreciate the support!

32 years as an industrial maintenance mechanic and commercial /institutional / Industrial HVACR service tech . One thing I have learned is there is nothing like doing it live to keep you in your toes . Had a 1000 amp 480 /3ø ground 2 of 3 due to improperly mounted metallic blank taking of panel cover . No shock or burn( cover was still on ) but it took 20 minutes for me to get my wits back ( was like a flash bang ) shut down one entire side of a plant . To this day 27 years later I still sweat doing panel work live .

Quick tip from a firefighter- Always “glove up”, use face shield/safety glasses AND step to the side… PRIOR to pulling a non-ct meter. Of course, kill all loads prior to pulling the meter as well. Arc Flash = No Fun. Years ago, we used to pull meters on residential structure fires. It was a tactic started by a member who was an electrical contractor. After watching video training showing meters literally shattering/exploding when being removed “hot”. We wait for JCLL or PSEG now. Great video and channel! Thanks from a North Jersey sub.

Ron really needs to buy a good pair of Hi-Voltage Workgloves rated at least up to 1,000 Amps and a set of Insulated Tools rated up to 1,000 Amps !! There is NO way that I would ever work on Service Equipment LIVE , HOT without them and I have been a State Licensed Journeyman Elecytrician / Sub Contractor for more than 56 yrs !

@mattym8

2 ай бұрын

I second this. The man has every toy and doesn't miss any detail but no insulated tools or gloves for hot work! Let's keep the videos going until your well-deserved retirement, sir.

@leejr2008

2 ай бұрын

should of called the city to disconnect the servive Line. Shit crazy dangerous.

@markpeterson5479

2 ай бұрын

I believe you mean 1000 VOLTS not amps.

@Icehso140

Ай бұрын

Gloves and screwdrivers will not provide protection from arc blast...and that's street amperage from the transformer, not a simple 100A service. Could be 100s of amps. There are old electricians and there are bold electricians...but few old bold electricians.

@voltstoamps120

25 күн бұрын

@@leejr2008 in NJ the power companies don't do that. You would be lucky if they come to shut down a commercial job and not have to wait 6 months.

When I was a younger electrician, I might have done it live ,nowadays. I won't do it live. Stay safe out there.

First of all nice job Ron appreciate your videos, i’m also a veteran with 38 years in from climbing poles to high voltage to controls. Been there done it .I have to say all these people stating their licensed or not does not matter when you do this you’re playing Russian roulette, everyone makes mistakes, and if you short that out, you’re gonna have a day to remember hopefully not but ,when it showers sparks and burns your face and put you in the hospital with nerve damage. There is no breaker to shut down , direct transformer, be careful my electricians wear gloves think twice.😊

As a 2 year industrial controls tech, my mind was just blown the entire time you were removing those live leads. I was sweating for you. Good job being careful there. Mad props to you.

@TheTubejunky

3 ай бұрын

It's easy. Just one rule. Stay alive and NOT LIVE!

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

In our world we are either a conductor or an insulator.

as a former fire-fighter and someone that has done a fair amount of diy electrical work inside, love the external disconnect to keep the panel truly dead while working.

@SRCardow1

2 ай бұрын

The outside disconnect requirement for fireman safety. That a side benefit.

DIYer here, and I love the code change. I add/remove circuits occasionally and would be much happier with a service disconnect to guarantee everything in my panel is not live while 'm working in the panel.

@kittsdiy

3 ай бұрын

excaly ..here in europe ( belgium ) in my late 70's house i already have his .. can't imagine it was here like in USA .

@ronpecinajr

3 ай бұрын

@@kittsdiy Main disconnects were always located inside "at the nearest point of entrance" for many decades. The new requirement says they have to be on the exterior.

@kittsdiy

3 ай бұрын

yep i guess so in usa .. your meter is also outside ( and rusty crrusty after 30 years ) here we don't have those ugly ( oldschool ) boxes at outside house walls on the outside luckaly / power is underground entering the garage / technical room floor mostly ( duckts in to the concreet slab/fondation ).. to outside disconnect is also impossible to do here @@ronpecinajr

@0blivioniox864

3 ай бұрын

@@ronpecinajr I've never seen one at any house I've seen, except for a rare few.

@Danieel-ip6hg

3 ай бұрын

​​@@kittsdiyThis is caveman electrics compared to most of the EU. It's functional, but at least in my eyes it looks like what would have failed here even 60-70 years ago. The US is focused on the industrial look and it pretty much hasn't changed since forever for reasons I don't understand.

Retired FF, loved it when we pulled up to a working fire and there was main disconnect. Did not have to worry about waiting for the emergency team from the power company to get there and cut it off at the main on the pole or ground transformer. Only time we would risk going in was if there was entrapment, otherwise; you never went in until the utilities were confirmed off. 👍

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

It's important and will hopefully contribute to saving lives too.

General Contractor- I do appreciate the code change on the exterior service disconnect, it adds additional safety nets for all.

Oh my god Ron ... without any isolated tools and protecting gloves do you work on this life box??? Respect. I work only with gloves on with european subpanels (3-phase 400V) that have power connected. In Europe the panels build by using plastic and that's is not a real problem but your "encloser" seems to be metal 😅

Great job! Very clean that is amazing

Thank you for sharing!

You are one of the few people I would completely trust in my home...and I don't even know you.

Nice, neat and clean, excellent job Ron.

I like your style, care at every connection. An extremely competent Sparky. From a retired industrial electrician Down Under.

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Thank you.

I had a 200A panel upgrade 2 years ago. I was shocked when the electrician installer told me about the required service disconnect on the OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE. Any neighborhood kid could come right up and turn off your power/lights/pumps/security/internet, and most people would have no idea what happened. The installer said it was mostly about fire department or first responders, but then he said without a disconnect they would just smash-off the meter with an axe, so it was never really a problem. I have since become much more aware of NEC codes (and of course found your channel!). The most recent new NEC codes are very expensive to property owners, and profitable to installers.

@pfak

3 ай бұрын

This is my biggest issue with exterior disconnects. Plus can be used by bad actors, I.e. Home invasion.

@jaycahow4667

3 ай бұрын

While I can see the advantages of a service disconnect before your main inside panel I too have grave concerns about an easily accessible one outside. It would only be a good idea to me if there was someway to prevent easy tampering. I cannot say for sure how that could be done but maybe have a special key or better yet a pin pad that has to be registered with the Power Company. I do not like the idea that anyone could easily shut off all the power.

@edisont.picard4112

2 ай бұрын

It's just not an issue. Many service disconnects have been outside for many years and this idea that mischievous kids will turn off your power has never manifested. I'm sure it has happened, but it isn't the scourge internet commenters make it out to be.

@jaycahow4667

2 ай бұрын

@@edisont.picard4112 These days with Social Media it only takes minutes for new ideas or bad practices to go viral. Someone just needs to come up with a Tiktok Power Off challenge and it might never be the same...

@markpeterson5479

2 ай бұрын

@@edisont.picard4112 "has never manifested" -- that you know of !!!!

Impressive work.

Thanks Ron. Great video and content. Best regards from Chicago

Enjoy your stuff. You do good work. Was stationed at Lakehurst in 1971 for six months in the USN. Went through Toms River a few times on the way to the beach. Before that old panel was originally installed. Keep up the good work!

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words. I used to drill in Lakehurst with the Navy Seabees. Glad you enjoyed the video.

Great work as always

Good job, keep the videos coming.

Nice job Ron. Thanks for sharing. I hope you get to 20K shortly.

Very relaxing and entertaining video right before I hit the sack. Txs Ron!!!

Good to see the install of an exterior service disconnect. I'm planning a DIY PV setup, and plan to add the exterior service disconnect (even though code here doesn't require it, still being on the 2008 code).

The service disconnect on the outside of the house it is a good idea specially for the fire department when they come in on an emergency situations. I totally agree with that, and by the way I’m not license electrician but I did took an electrical course, and I have to say that your videos are very helpful you have no idea how I appreciate your videos thank you very much and please keep posting these videos thank you and take care my friend

Thanks for the tips. im also doing a service in Brick, and watching this video helps 👍🏾

Bud you got some balls to do that hot and no insulated tools. Props to you

DIYer here in Utah. In 1998 as the owner, I got a permit to upgrade my 4 fuses service panel to a 125amp panel. The city required an external disconnect and I put on a Siemens meter/4 space combo panel with that. Then I installed the new panel 10 ft away from the old entry with a 10 ft mast. City utility came out and disconnected power, then I installed the service feeder between new outside panel and inside subpanel. Once I did that the inspector came out and approved it all and called the city utility to come back and hook the overhead lines to the new mast conductors. Now I am looking at doing another permit to upgrade to a 200 amp panel with 8 spaces outside ($2700 impact/upgrade fee) should be very easy. I can re-use the 125amp as is, as it used to do a EVSE port,. dryer outlet. etc. Currently I run a 100 amp breaker/circuit through the existing 125 amp to another subpanel where I have my solar Grid input placed. With the 200amp I will move that solar 100amp to another breaker in the 200amp panel, and spread the load around. I like the external disconnect requirement

Very interesting video. I have to admit, I was pretty nervous when you were handling those hot wires in the meter box. Nice job not getting zapped.

Impeccable work! Learn something on all your videos

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great job. Stay safe . 👍👍

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, I will

Nice work, Ron. 🙂

Thanks for all your sharing, you are the best teacher, i really love your video. you share all the code, do a good job.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Pay it forward man!

GREAT VIDEO IM A ELECTRICIAN HERE IN NYC. I DO MOSTLY COMMERCIAL RESIDENCIAL BUILDINGS. I LOVE THAT KLEIN INSULATION REMOVER WILL INVEST IN ONE. I HAVE NOT DONE SERVICE IN YEARS. I HAVE 15 YEARS IN NOW MOSTLY I DO LOW VOLTAGE PULLING IN THE APARTMENTS I FIND MORE RELAXING NOW. I LOVE THE IDEAL OF THE CODE CHANGE WITH A SERVICE DISCONNECT YES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOVES THAT. THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR A GREAT VIDEO N YOU DEFINITELY TAKE PRIDE IN UR WORK. KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING I LOVE WATCHING FELLOW SPARKIES.

Nice install always nice to see what is required in other states

I would recommend (2) Husky portable work tables. One for the outside portion and 1 for the inside. Very convenient and saves the knees. Thank you.

Nice insulated tools👌

Licensed Electrical Contractor (Louisiana) as for the exterior disconnect from a safety point it’s a great idea, but as for the homeowner it’s just another additional cost to an already budget strapped customer. Love your channel buddy…3rd Generation Electrician/HVAC Contractor here.

Getting the knockouts punched out is the hardest part sometimes 😂 awesome vid!!

Electrical Marking Tape. They have the tape with the numbers but I always wanted Vinyl tape that had Neutral, Ground, etc. printed on the tape. Just make it look nicer and mark the wires. Over the years working on different appliances, I found it easy to mark the wires. When I started we didn't even have cell phones or a phone with a camera so you would have to write everything down.

I enjoyed all of it. I am a DIY'er. I worked part time with my dad he was a true handyman and knew a lot about electricity and taught me. But I am not comfortable inside a panel.

I Like the Idea of Exterior Disconnects it maybe a more cumbersome ordeal for installs but in emergency's comes in handy especially if there is a fire the fire department can shut power to the house

I just found your channel and am enjoying the content. I'm a low voltage and security technician. Great content.

@electricalron

8 күн бұрын

Thanks for the compliment. I sincerely appreciate them.

Congratulations on your well-deserved subscriber count brother former IBEW.

Nice job! When ever I work in old and new meter panes that are hot I like to put rubber over the exposed metal parts. One time the lug came off and hit the metal ring!!

@throttlebottle5906

2 ай бұрын

metal spark shower (and what used to be a ring). best bet is turn off loads and unhook at overhead entrance( or underground, if the socket ern looks the least bit corroded/rusted. that is why the ring retainer type SUCKS, the other you can cut tag and pull cover to inspect before trying to pull the meter. DO look closely for corrosion, rust, cracks in insulators and be prepared for any meter pulling to go south. best bet is always treat everything as live and get used to working on it that way, even if new construction no power to building. then be an idiot like me and go do all the finish work live and zap yourself once or more weekly(residential) never had the other contractors complain about power being off though. I admit that too many times was super dumb luck, standing in water knee deep water wiring live and in chest deep (DO NOT EVER). clearly when I was younger I had brass balls the size of the world.

I am a DIYer and Volunteer Fireman Medic, love the exterior Discos for Power! It hard to wet up a structure with live wires falling to ground!!! OORAH Semper Fi and Can Do 1*SRT/TAC

Looks great! Gotta love these projects here in az we don’t used main panels inside often usually it’s an all in one service or meter sock and main panel outside. Gotta love the money too lol love the videos!

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Licensed electricians and apprentices/ journeyman have a skill that is necessary in American life and we should all be paid accordingly.

Anybody that publishes "serious pain the ass" is my guy. Period. Thanks for the video!

it scared me very much when i did it live as well, tooked my time

@kittsdiy

3 ай бұрын

i would never do it like he did . w/o gloves w/o insulated tools and metal box ( easy to make a short to ground ) .. i'm not sure what regulations are in USA .. but here this would be a big NO NO .. acording the VCA ethics here .. ( don't now if electrical work applies OSHA safetey in USA ? ) And yes i surely did connect already life terminals ..in some cases there is no option to turn power off . But i can be done in a much safer way than shown in the video .

Great vid Ron! Im definitely going to steal that duct seal idea for holding things temporarily…

Great job brother.

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video!

Nice work!

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Nice work! No one knows the nervousness working that line hot. Outside disconnect is a must in my opinion. It can save lives . I was previously licensed in Texas and I miss the work. The skills learned lasts a lifetime and taking time to make up that service panel is a definite nod to our trade.

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

Thank you for making these videos. I do a lot of my own electrical work at home, and seeing professional electricians do the work gives me a lot of confidence. If I could ask for one thing, it would be to please wear safety glasses when doing things like cutting with that multitool!

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Very welcome!

Whew-wee Ron, at 19:00 you had my full attention there putting those hot leads back onto the meter panel...Oh snap...Big Brass ones there bro...😆🤨😎

If you haven't seen it, Topaz part 1686 is a 22" long piece of 2" running thread pvc conduit. It works out to about $4.50 an inch, which is expensive, but you can cut it to any length nipple you need. It saves you the grounding bushing and you won't have to cut any TA's to fit things together.

Good video. Good work. I have a 100 amp disconnect inside my garage on the other side of the wall of the meter. The main panel is in the basement with no disconnect. I would imagine that going to 200 amp service would be a lot of work here in New York state. Also the meter is on the side of the house under the car port.

Ron, We have had that disconnect required here for over 30 years. Electrician from PR

Beautiful job. Live change out of underground is a different animal then overhead. I much prefer the overhead.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

You aren't kidding!

@earlestes8649

3 ай бұрын

@@electricalronI’m 67 and have been doing electrical since about 13 started with an old electrictrician and don’t believe I even now would try this, I’ve done many overhead lines. Just cut them off and reconnect them live no problems.

@elangomattab

3 ай бұрын

Homeowner here. I would have expected the underground line wouldn't make much of a difference in difficulty but obviously I'm wrong. If anything I would have thought it would be easier since it happens at ground level and not on a ladder. Hopefully I won't have to replace my meter enclosure any times soon since my service is underground.

Wow, that’s crazy, I understand every area utility is different. South Florida. We have Florida Power & Light and they have been very responsive, along with most of electrical inspectors, I guess I’m just lucky & spoiled. Most of our inspectors were contractors at one time and have a lot of empathy for you, normally coordinating scheduled shutdown , inspection and reconnect so the customer is never out more than the one day you do the change over, it’s incumbent on the contractor performed the work properly so there’s no issues with inspection and reconnect. Not saying I’ve never run across the crazy electrical inspector, but generally a call to the chief electrical inspector will clear that up, and the customer will get back on that same day, sometimes you’re there late into the night waiting for you utility crew, but that’s a rarity.

I have a 2 family duplex style house. 2 separate panels. The first one is directly inside the basement. Has a main in that panel. The other side has a 100 amp main breaker outside below the dual meter pan. Makes it very easy to shut power off to do anything on that side. The external main disconnect is a great new code requirement

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Both of the service disconnects are supposed to be grouped together in this scenario.

@richb4099

3 ай бұрын

@@electricalron The entire Service and both panels were installed in 1978. The drop and meter panel was replaced 10 years ago. A truck severed the service cable and I had a newer drop and meter pan installed. Grounding electrodes were also installed along with water heater jumpers. Was permitted and inspected, all good.

Great video. There are only 2 things I would do differently. 1st, I would wear the proper PPE following NFPA 70E procedures. 2nd, I would reconnect live wires last after everything else was completed.

at 34:05, I love the idea of the outside service disconnect. I had a fire on my drop line from the pole which crossed through my house, over the garage, and then through a drywalled wall, to get to the outside meter base, before entering the service meter. There was no stopping that fire until the actual wires were cut because there was no fuse or disconnect protection for the service drop. At the "EMERGENCY MOMENT", I tried pulling my meter in the ensuing panic, but that was no good due to the problem being "UP STREAM" of the meter. I had my service moved to underground for the main purpose of getting the ground level, reachable, outside service disconnect. (That service installation was a debacle in its-own right - A story for another day). Un-protected main drop line failure is a major cause of house fires.

Awesome video Ron! I guess I kinda like the exterior disco but I think I’d prefer a handhole under each meter for emergency disconnects and also to prevent you from pulling metal conduit or meter enclosures over live utility lines.

I actually had forgotten about Bill O'Reilly (was on "the other side of the aisle" until recently, if you know what I mean), but thanks for the reminder! I need to start listening to him.

Damn Ron, I was holding my breath way too long on this one! 😂 Beautiful work as always 🏆🏆 I always wondered about kids having fun running around at night hitting disconnects for fun, or individuals doing it before breaking in 🤷‍♂️

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

The NEC addresses this and a lock can be installed on the disconnect to keep the kiddies away. The firemen can easily cut a pad lock.

@earlestes8649

3 ай бұрын

@@electricalronthe only thing is a padlock keeps a honest person honest, thieves carry 3 ft keys and prybars for prying open the door handle lock, with ease!

@tempesttube

3 ай бұрын

@@earlestes8649It keeps casual pranksters out too. The meter usually has a small padlock too. Some places even have the panels outdoors, again, with a padlock. Seems like a nonissue.

@earlestes8649

3 ай бұрын

@@tempesttube I’ve gotten called by landlords about no power at an apartment or even two or more, and kids had been playing around and flipping them off on the back of the building. So I understand about that being a problem. But if someone wants to steal or do something nefarious a padlock won’t even slow them down. lol

@kittsdiy

3 ай бұрын

i was thinking the same ... if that disconnect is easy accesable ... easy to play with for kids or criminals or praksters .. every advantage has some disadvantegres :)

Ron I remember my tech instructor told me bldg codes for electricle really didn't come until the late 1970's so before that if the wire didn't burn it was all good in NH anyways lol

Indeed

Im upgrading my svc to 400A and relocating the overhead svc conductors to underground. All permits are approved thru Edison and the AHJ here in CA. I originally wanted to use a ranch panel to feed my 200A sub panel, but CA adopted the 2020 NEC about 6 months before I pulled the permit, so Im having to use separate svc disconnects to feed two 200A sub panels. Similar to what you did in this video, but i will have one more svc disco plus a 200A subpanel on the meter board. One of my 200A discos is feeding the overhead span to the house. So my meter will be fed nderground from utility, then overhead to house. Too many rock formations in btwn, hence the overhead feed to house

@electricalron

Ай бұрын

Ok

I'm an Electrical Engineer and volunteer FF/EMT. The service disconnect on the exterior is a good change. No waiting for interior crews. One guy can jump straight off the truck and kill the power to the structure within a minute or less., rendering numerous hazards safe. It was overdue.

@rgmatta3524

3 ай бұрын

Just pull the meter!

Here in Pennsylvania its like the wild west... no licensing requirements other than the inner cities of Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, and Philadelphia. Our utility company lets us disconnect and reconnect overhead services, not underground. I really wish we had licensing requirements because it would get rid of a lot of hacks. Like the video's Ron, nice work!

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Thank you and yes, I agree with you about being licensed getting rid of hacks. Well, most of them anyway.

@garbo8962

3 ай бұрын

Lazy foot dragging politicians in Harrisburg have been working on a state electrical license since my dad took his test for a Philly license back in 1964. Our local great IAEI sent inspectors & electricians up to Harrisburg maybe 8 years ago to attempt to finally get state license. One of our lying Philly politicians said he was looking into it. I worked full time as a sparky but did tons of moon lightning. One great commercial customer wanted me to upgrade his 100 amo service. At that time I had an electrical license for Philly and two small townships but his town refuses to honor another location license. They wanted me to make a visit to apply to take the four hour test then a second visit to puck up the license. Not even worth all that time for a weeks worth of work.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

@@garbo8962 I did a few services for a friend in northeast Pa many years ago. Twsp wanted a permit and an inspection. No issues.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Tobyhanna Pa.

@JohnThomas-lq5qp

3 ай бұрын

I did my largest moonlighting job back in the 1980's in a township that anybody could pull a permit . Being the job was over $5,000 had to get an electrical engineer to stamp the 11 pages of drawings. My inspector & township inspector was at the meeting. Local inspector kept bad mouthing my prints but everything was in order. Finally the electrical engineer spoke up and stated that the prints were very good and nothing wrong on them. Had the owner put the permit in his name. Ended up installing over a mile of 3/4 to 3.5" conduit in the building along with over 20 60 to 400 amp buss duct switches and over a dozen panels ( 120/208 & 480/277 volts ). ​@@electricalron

I agree I done my own 200amp service and there needs to be better rules and a UPDATED NEC BOOK

I am a DIY electrician and am a graduate electrical engineer. I have done anywhere from seven major electrical house rewires to four total electrical replacement houses, all with permits. I like the requirement for remote disconnects, except that pranksters can shut the house down. I did one house because the panel was 25 feet from the meter, and since there was no access within six feet inside the hose, mounted it externally. A second house had the disconnect in the garage. I hear what you are saying about concentric KOs and Klein tools.

@edisont.picard4112

2 ай бұрын

It's never been the scourge the internet commenters wring their hands about. Lots of outside disconnects out there. Very few pranksters turning power off.

OMG... Big Cojones! It would be real easy to make a big mistake! Nice Job! Plus a Thumbs up & 1 more Subscriber! Thanks for the Education!

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video!

With all the services you do and all the wire you buy. Buy some white insulated wire. You won’t have to keep phasing the wire. I do a lot of 500 and 750 KCMIL wire installs. And everything I order the supply house carries the colors we need. Helps a lot on parallel installs to keep from phases crossing.

As an electrician apprentice having a means of disconnect is a good safe idea to turn off power especially when there's a fire first responders have a means of disconnect to turn off the power before going to put the fire out inside the house

Another beautiful, quality project by Ron at Classic Electric !

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Ron another thing a journeymen taught me if you wrap tape around the shaft of your drivers it's a ghetto insulated tool in pinch better than an arc in the face

Nice Job, some VDE tools wouldn't go amiss doing that in the future.

Crazy! Should have insulating gloves on and that Allen wrench should be insulated most of the way down. Put on two shrink wrap tubes on that and shrink them.

only thing I'll suggest, is moving the old meter base out a ways and puling the neutral out first, while the live conductors are still sticking out/apart and clear. then pull each of them individually, repeat process in reverse. same for metal conduit lock rings. pass each live conductor through individually, then the neutral last. obviously no bare spots/damage on the live conductors. insulated tools(drivers), I bought some last year, they mostly look pretty in my bag as I move on the same as the last 30+ years. pretty much none of the cutters/pliers/strippers are live work rated, will most shield you still? sure, but best be one used to taking a zap, just in case. lol I hate underground feeds for any repair work, because there's often issues and qualms with ampacity upgrades, which are usually a no go due to conduit size and meeting code. this assumes customer pays for entrance from splice/transformer vault to the meter socket.(it's a tossup per state/location/utility co. pretty much impossible to be a lineman or electrician that can work anywhere in the USA, without so many licenses it would cost you millions a year(realistically)

Hot gloves and vde tools bro. Let's try to keep you around for awhile 😉

Hey Ron, need to ask for insulated tools for Christmas. 👍

I love Bill O'Reilly

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

Awesome!!!

interesting to see how it's done stateside

@TheChipmunk2008

2 ай бұрын

HAHAHHA in the UK, we hate twisters here too, glad youtube recommended this to me

Ron, Consider yourself lucky in NJ, in Delaware Anytime you Touch the Service conductors you must install the Emergency Disconnect, Once the change to the 2024 NEC in Delaware it will be kinda like NJ, check out NEC 230.85 C replacements

@paulcoulston1987

3 ай бұрын

Met to say 2023 NEC

I would recommend a sharp drill bit and drill out the attachment points of the KOs so you don't risk breaking too many out with the prying. Thank you.

Interesting how different states handled this code change. My state ( Connecticut ) amended the 2020 code so that only new construction requires an external disconnect. Now saying that looking at peoples houses around here it seems many electricians have been installing meter main combos.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Question: Would nitrile coated gloves be of any help when working with live wires? I know that insulated linesman gloves would be the ideal choice were it not for the fact that they are so bulky. Just curious what you think.

If it was my own house would have installed a 2" PVC expansion joint and a 6 or 8 circuit outdoor service panel so you could feed future EV chargers & a convience receptacle along with surge protection from there. Being the service conductors are energised would have wrapped the grounded conductor with several layers of white tape, worn a long sleeve approved PPE shirt, rubber gloves that were tested & date stamped in last six months and a tinted face shield. In my area we have to install a bonding locknut or grounding bushing on a metal nipple between meter can & service panel.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Why would you install a bonding bushing on PVC?

@JohnThomas-lq5qp

3 ай бұрын

​@@electricalronoops thought it was steel nipple.

You a mad man Ron I love it 😂. Was the new meter pan you installed an overhead meter pan? Usually when I get the new underground meter pan from Good Friend it’s either Line side left or Line side right, this one looks different. Thanks!

@electricalron

2 ай бұрын

This was line side left but I came up through the center KO so I had room for the disconnect

Hey Ron ! I've been watching alot of your videos since i've started my journey to becoming an electrical contractor and i've learned a lot. Thank you for posting these videos. I have a question about when you mounted the meter base and service disconnect outside. Did you use Duct seal behind the fender washers to seal out water ?

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I always do that. Duct seal is your friend here in the northeast.

Here In Texas we normally install a 200 amp breaker panel on the outside of the Homes. And run all the romex to the outdoor panel Next to the Meter since most breaker panel have 200 amp main breaker. I always find it amuzing There no main disconnect or breaker panel on outside of the homes outside of the great state of Texas.

The non-insulated t-handle was a gutsy move Ronnie. Consider throwing some electrical tape on it next time 😅

ahh, general switch co. I don't recall them even making breaker panels, but I knew they had fuse boxes/disconnects.

clean install as always. I guess that's really the only way to get a new meter mounted when its underwound fed. I helped on a 200A upgrade underground my journeyman followed the same methods you did just don't touch ground and you will be fine hahaha. Also can you not get a meter main combo like Milbank where its all in 1 enclosure. Although the meter main is tighter inside sometimes you really gotta break out the muscles but your separate disconnect allows you to work more spaced out but, at the cost of punching and mounting it all level ahahha. Also your note in the start of video. So it is true you can replace just 1 item of someone's service and wouldn't have to add the disconnect per 230.85. Only reason I ask is up here in Mass we follow your same rules but some inspectors are a holes and want the disconnect no matter what you touched its just annoying. that's only happened once or twice but its definably wrong to make an electrician do that. And yes it shocks me every time how long it takes to line everything up especially when your nippling disconnect and the panel inside so many things to consider haha. Thanks for the vid Ron.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

In New Jersey here we have the Rehabilitation Sub Code. This is where the exception for the service disconnect comes into play. Thanks for your kind words.

I love the idea of an external disconnect. I'm a DYI with a double degree in electronics and lots of experience in electrical work (with no license). I'm 64 and I would love to become a licensed electrician so I can enjoy doing what I love in my later years, but not sure if this is possible with the number of years it takes to become licensed. While I physically can't keep with with the pace of a 20 something man, I have strong troubleshooting skills and love solving problems. I just want to have a purpose and do what I love for others.

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

You’ll need to complete a 4-year apprenticeship program like I the one teach and at least one year working in the field. After that you’ll have to pass the licensing exam. These regulations are specific for New Jersey.

another great video Ron. what make and model do you use for the emergency disconnect? and do you use the same one every time?

@electricalron

3 ай бұрын

Usually the Cutler Hammer BR.