Your ‘Optics’ are Never Going to Matter | The Continuous Mistake Of “Gamergate”
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@DimitriMonroe3 ай бұрын
Surely appeasing the people who hate you just a little longer will make them stop hating you any moment now?
@brandonandujar2289
3 ай бұрын
I love Minnie May
@subjectnivleis7572
3 ай бұрын
The corrupt industry: just shut up and and take the trash we give My reply: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mnaFj5akfdebgaw.htmlfeature=shared
@1685Violin
3 ай бұрын
I have another reason why and it's for the same reason a right winger named The Distributist tried to warn Sargon of Akkad about fighting against the far-left back in 2016: lack of institutional support from both universities and governments. Because both institutions are mainly run by a coalition between far-leftists and neoliberals who support an ideology called globalism, they will use power to obfuscate and go around the 1st Amendment to crush decent against their moral worldview. This is even worse when many large companies agree and partner with the politicians to skirt around the 1st Amendment using the "private company" argument. The neocon Republicans also support many of those policies. There is a reason more right wingers refer to those politicians as the "uniparty". It's hard to express this when censorship in the comments section is rising.
@1685Violin
3 ай бұрын
If my long reply is missing, please sort the comments.
@kikihideout4966
3 ай бұрын
How about, dont be naive, and more importantly. DONT BE WEAPONIZED NAIVE.
@darkroninmarvel3 ай бұрын
Funny enough, when Kindred insulted Toriyama, he automatically became an enemy of a large chunk of Latino America because we loved Toriyama. Seriously, most of the replies came from furious Latinos; if there's anything that Latin Americans hate more than each other, it's the term Latinx and people who insult Toriyama.
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
It is amazing how the entire latin america loves Dragon Ball. Like, not even talking about weebs, people whose ONLY anime is Dragon Ball and that is almost their religion.
@darkzeroprojects4245
3 күн бұрын
And progressive types like him resent that those they see as allies reject their politics and narratives. It's why they have no problem being racist scumbags.
@wayofthemasterlord83573 ай бұрын
Truly a coincidence that a lot of Journo publications released an article about the “Hard R” graffiti almost within minutes of each other. Nah nothing to see here. Truly isn’t similar to when they released multiple articles within minutes of each other proclaiming that “gaming is dead” and that “gamers aren’t your audience anymore” way back when the original movement started. Wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that this (“Hard R” Graffiti) was coordinated in some special chat group or exclusive journo mailing list where they conspired to lob as much slanderous shit about this game as they can.
@SuperSpeedRaven1
3 ай бұрын
Exmilitary pfp hell yeah
@wayofthemasterlord8357
3 ай бұрын
@@SuperSpeedRaven1 if you notice, he’s also wearing those glasses that the Cruelty Squad MC is wearing. when the beat drops I will get noided 😩
@SuperSpeedRaven1
3 ай бұрын
@@wayofthemasterlord8357 that's so rad
@wayofthemasterlord8357
3 ай бұрын
@@SuperSpeedRaven1it is yea, thanks Habibi.
@NoraNoita
3 ай бұрын
apparently the majority of these sites are owned by the same parent company, so stuff is certainly coordinated to release on the same schedule. Saw a video on it by fireb0rn
@rebelfriend51723 ай бұрын
They literally do the “see see I depicted myself as the Chad and you as the loser” but with wholesomeness
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
“The concept of humanity is an especially useful ideological instrument of imperialist expansion, and in its ethical-humanitarian form it is a specific vehicle of economic imperialism. Here one is reminded of a somewhat modified expression of Proudhon’s: whoever invokes humanity wants to cheat. To confiscate the word humanity, to invoke and monopolize such a term probably has certain incalculable effects, such as denying the enemy the quality of being human and declaring him to be an outlaw of humanity; and a war can thereby be driven to the most extreme inhumanity.” ― Carl Schmitt
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
"Who invokes humanity intends to decieve" -Schmitt
@S_Hyde3 ай бұрын
"Never forget what they took from you" Senran Kagura still hurts, those silly little sexy ninja games were truly something special.
@kingbash64663 ай бұрын
The 2020s really is just a direct sequel to the 2010s.
@metronome8471
3 ай бұрын
Gamergate for a modern audience.
@xiiiunmetal
3 ай бұрын
These remakes are so lazy and unoriginal
@someguy9175
3 ай бұрын
@@xiiiunmetal bruh, even god is just reusing material now, what is this...
@MaverickhunterXZero
3 ай бұрын
Except there wad at least some good around the 2010s. Now there's barely anything.
@dexulescu
3 ай бұрын
@someguy9175 inb4 God decides to remake 1933 for modern audiences
@dood35303 ай бұрын
"You aren't winning a factual argument against a group whose sole tactic is emotional manipulation. Focus on what actually matters instead of trying to prove yourself to the people who will never accept anything less than total compliance." Couldn't have said it better myself
@Grobut81
3 ай бұрын
Good thing we don't need to then. When the idealogues made the jump from games Journalism, to making games, they sealed their fate. It's real simple: You're not getting me to pay 70 bux to play Forspoken, Sushi Squad, or SW Outlaws. That just isen't happening. Simple as. And looking at how these games have performed, i am certainly not alone. We can't reason with the beast, but we can definately starve it. We're just at the start of this thing, so there's no point counting chickens just yet. We can decide if GG2 was a W or an L after we see the sales numbers for upcomming woke titles over the next couple of years. That's where the fight is won or lost, and my wallet has been training long and hard to lie dormant and unopened on my desk.
@FrostbiteDigital
3 ай бұрын
Exactly. They don't care about facts at all
@marhawkman303
3 ай бұрын
Yeah "optics"... as the saying goes "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".... Well.. so is bad PR. PR is only good or bad if the viewer sees it that way. These recent virtue signaling attempts often get totally ignored or even derided because it's obvious to the viewer that it's not genuine. It's obviously meant to elicit a positive opinion, but it slips the mask and shows people why NOT to believe them. A smear campaign isn't gonna ruin someone if the viewers don't believe it. And that's another thing. these scumbags are liars through and through. You can't have a factual argument with someone who makes up everything as they go along.
@WokioWolfy
3 ай бұрын
@@Grobut81wasn't there a game that came out about African culture made by someone who didn't know anything about it and hired western consultancy firms to do it? Rather than an African one?
@WokioWolfy
3 ай бұрын
@marhawkman303 they lie because they believe to be the good guys, these people actually think about looking like good people rather than being good people that they started believing in their insane ideas.
@juanrodriguez99713 ай бұрын
How can we fight in a debate when the content of our words does not matter, but the emotions and labels attached by others do? We live in the time of the emperor's new clothes, but when the child yells "the emperor is naked" he is shut down and called a porn addict who hates every single minority?
@espurrseyes42
3 ай бұрын
Piracy. Don't want to listen to our words? You don't get our money. If buying your game isn't owning it, then pirating it isn't stealing it.
@sabo-vf3xj
3 ай бұрын
>"How can we fight in a debate" There never was a debate. These people never cared about any sort of discussion, their goal was to control other people through intimidation and shame. Why do you think they always resort to accusations of bigotry before actually engaging with the subject matter? The only way to win is by not playing at all. Just do what you enjoy doing and dismiss their worthless asses. I know it's hard to ignore them, due to humans being social creatures and all that, but not caring about what other people think about you is just something you gotta learn to do if you wanna go anywhere in life. After all, do we really care what the literal whores at kotaku think?
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
@@espurrseyes42 Modern western games aren't even good enough to pirate, and it's been shown that more and more people would rather play old games than buy more recent ones. Voting with your wallet is important, but people are already, loudly, doing that and it's not enough on its own.
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
Simple: win Might makes right
@sabo-vf3xj
3 ай бұрын
There was never a debate, they don't actually care about the conversation, they just care about controlling others through shame and intimidation. Btw, I dunno why youtube keeps deleting my comments. Is this a glitch or something?
@FAILEDSTANDINGSCHOOL3 ай бұрын
“That’s just going to get you called an Uncle Tom.” I hate how true this is. Of course I want more characters in media who look like me or people from other cultures. What I don’t want is some authoritarian stereotype to be forced fed. It’s incredibly ironic how these faux-progressives will be fast to place you in a box of how you or others who look like you are supposed to act rather than just accepting you for who you are. It’s beyond frustrating.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
Yup. That's called _racism. Never_ let them forget how racist and sexist they really are. Don't accept their definitions, for therein lies the trap. If they can define the terms, they can easily win any argument, but only if you buy into their BS definitions. Become the thorn in their side. Become the gadfly that gets in their eyes,. Become the wasp stinging them every chance you get. Make them hate you even more than they already do. Why did Grummz receive a threat on his life? _Because he's effective._ When dad pokes his head in and asks, "Are ya winning, kid?" reply with , "Aw, yeah, Dad. I'm winning like there's no tomorrow." Eat 'em and smile. In your copious free time, you might consider finding and reading the book _Wasp_ by Eric Frank Russell. It's a science fiction novel about how to wage asymmetric warfare to bring down entire planetary governments.
@marhawkman303
3 ай бұрын
They NEED the stereotypes... or they can't file people into boxes to be exploited.
@darkjelly944
2 ай бұрын
We want characters, not mouth-pieces
@darkzeroprojects4245
3 күн бұрын
I guess I'm the exception because I don't want more that look like me or whatever. Just want good characters overall. To me representation these days is just modern day tokenisim at this point.
@diaframe5353 ай бұрын
The only thing those people think about is their fear of socially ostracized. You can see that the don't like those changes but they won't say anything "unpopular".
@juanrodriguez9971
3 ай бұрын
"Hey, why did they race swap this character? He wasn't black" "Omg! Are you racist?! Do you have a problem with black people existing?! They deserve to be represented!" And then you just shut up because you don't want to be known as someone you are not, yet you still know there is a problem of hypocrisy going around.
@deadpansanchez2947
3 ай бұрын
thats the classic fence sitter
@WokioWolfy
3 ай бұрын
Yup
@Harley_Mitchelly3 ай бұрын
I've said this for a while. If GamerGate 1 was a failure, there would not be a GamerGate 2. For all the shit anyone can sling at the original, it definitely mainstreamed and cemented the idea that games journalists were corrupt hacks. That was the original goal, Sargon declared victory, GG wins. I saw that real time way back when which is why him lamenting that it lost is so disheartening, he himself has forgotten his past. Even if GamerGate 2 doesn't fix the industry, it has now been mainstreamed that this is an issue in some capacity. This is a W, we would be dumb to forget this. It is now open to talk about it. A phrase I remember lately. "If they had already won, their propaganda would be unnecessary." The journos and consultancy firms are in late stage propaganda, the kind designed to demoralize and humiliate people into accepting it. This is not a comment on their capture, but rather the amount of tools they have left. They can have all the institutions in the world... but so long as someone is talking about this, they can't rest. And I relish in that fact, still repping the original in servers and social media I'm in, complete with a backlog of evidence that leaves most people nowadays scrambling to support the harassment narrative and failing. If GG1 failed, it's largely because no one knew the scope of what was at play. Now people do, what with ESG scores and BRIDGE being a known thing. We can afford to fight more offensively now simply because we have a clue what to actually do.
@tokusatsukeyblade797
3 ай бұрын
Exactly, the purpose of both Gamergates is to inform and expose these corrupt hacks for what they are, to damage the fake image they try to present to the public. Any societal changes caused by it is just an added bonus. And we are obviously succeeding in some way. The reason why all the psychotic activists are panicking now is because more and more people are talking about them and the unprofessional, harmful, and toxic behavior they have been engaging in. Heck, the inciting incident for the current incarnation of gamergate was them getting angry over a Brizillian man simply pointing out the existence of a consultancy group. He didn’t make any accusations at them or try to debate them, all he did is point out that they exist, and they lashed out like mindless wild animals. They don’t want people to talk about them or the things they do, because it hurts the image they want to sell. We don’t need to beat them in an argument, we just need to keep talking about them and shining a spotlight on them for others to see.
@tokusatsukeyblade797
3 ай бұрын
Exactly, the purpose of both has always been to inform and expose these hacks for what they are, to talk about them and make it mainstream to discuss their horrible actions. The objective of the movement was never to change the minds of these people, because nothing we say will ever change their minds. These psychos aren’t doing this because they misinformed, they are fully aware of how wrong they are and are doing it anyway out of malicious intent, so there would be no point in trying to get them to change.
@Locksden
3 ай бұрын
Good post. I've never understood people thinking "we" won GG1. Knowing your opponent is wrong is not a win, it's an ego buff. Both "Gamer Gates" were/are about (a) the _perception_ of the wider (non-gamer) part of society, and (b) about the content, packaging, and profit model(s) of games. After GG1, all three got steadily worse from the gamer perspective. I wrote this after the "HD-2 victory" over Sony, but it's just a minor tactical success. We _could_ win this time, but we've barely started.
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
3 ай бұрын
Trying to find a decisive battle often loses the war. Just ask Japan on how their sole focus on fighting the Americans in WWII hinged on this large land-sea-air battle where their side would win out. We just have to hop island to island until we corner the bastards. Even if it means several more "gamer gate" battles, pushing forward slowly while consolidation is key to victory. Sweet baby is one tenticle...Bridge is next followed by Blackrock and Vanguard. Then after them it's whoever else is trying to push this crap.
@Locksden
3 ай бұрын
@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Agree. We could, and _should_ organize for a "long game". Most of the _difficult_ infrastructure (e.g. mass communication) is in place already. But (as with military endeavors), organization is important. We're at least 25 years behind in that. IMO, if we get started on an effective path we could catch up in a year.
@slashersmasher5553 ай бұрын
Send this video to the Brazilian guy who started the SBI group he needs to see this and spread it to his groups. Remember, spreading the message and speaking about it is massive.
@Cerebrum1233 ай бұрын
We are fighting against cultural vandalism, political maneuvering, and censorship. They want us to just give in to nihilism and despair. All of this is intentional, so we are easier to control. I used to think it was all just incompetence, but clearly there is much more going on here.
@littlebabyman8494
3 ай бұрын
If see all this as intentional and know it’s intentional but you just give up cause “people are idiots” then you’re a weak willed person unwilling to stand by your beliefs in the face of backlash.
@Cerebrum123
3 ай бұрын
@@littlebabyman8494 That's why I'm doing what I can to fight this. I'm working on some projects and trying to get the word out about what they are doing. There isn't a whole lot I can do with my current situation, but I'm not giving up.
@littlebabyman8494
3 ай бұрын
@@Cerebrum123 wasn’t aimed at you specifically, it’s just someone came to mind when reading your comment.
@Cerebrum123
3 ай бұрын
@@littlebabyman8494 I misunderstood then. It happens more than I would like to admit.
@lemond2007
3 ай бұрын
Demoralization is the first step of the communist revolution.
@Bulletsforfree3 ай бұрын
Trusting Sony/Playstation of all companies out there to release a game like Stellar Blade unchanged was naive from the start. They're almost entirely responsible for the Senran Kagura Series being essentially dead. The moment Shift Up took the Sony money it was over.
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
They should have gone with Microsoft to get uncensored releases on Xbox and PC, and deter Microsoft from their recent decision to jump aboard the woke train in solidarity with Soyny. Wake up, Xbox, you're the grown-up gamer brand, not a Sweet Baby box for babies! #SonyCheck #MakeXboxGreatAgain #NoPlayStation6
@Take22952
3 ай бұрын
Moral of the story is that if you truly want your games to be uncensored, make your own website for it, because these big name companies won’t support your game if you want full creative freedom.
@willmaud2359
3 ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Microsoft has butchered the Rare IPs, so I don't give them too much credit on that front.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
@@Take22952 Freedom of the Press only exists for those who own the presses.
@tvgg13 ай бұрын
well, you know how the old gamer saying goes "the only hit point that matters is the last one." you only lose when you can't fight anymore, stand strong folks.
@CheekyHussar3 ай бұрын
"we're really proud of our work" "Cool can you point to it?" "👿 HOW FUCKING DARE YOU"
@mat2th
3 ай бұрын
They would just point to saga anderson from alan wake 2 or some other well received inclusivity change
@joncooke158
3 ай бұрын
@@mat2th That's the most galling part. Their work doesn't have to be shitty or handicap visuals or storytelling. Like, this could be a victory lap for them rather than a hall of shame.
@DMAN99
3 ай бұрын
@@mat2ththat’s the insidious part about this whole thing. Like the spiderman dev clip pointed out. They push these things into popular stuff, so then people automatically associate it as being a good thing or okay. For example, Arcane’s a hugely popular show but they turned a cute punk tomboy into being a butch punk lesbian changing a friendship between women into sapphic fan fiction territory, but because the show is overall good people just give it a pass.
@land3021
3 ай бұрын
Huh, I swear this shit sounds like classic neoliberalism, but in more adequate terms, feudal-monarchy-religious-style authoritarianism... where the corporations are > the workers, and only the corporations get to take credit for their work, but workers are never allowed to have control of, or even make mention of how difficult their work is cause it's "ungrateful" to show any emotions other than gratitude that you can even be allowed in the company you're working in the first place... Basically, speak anything that shifts the focus away from god, and you're a heretic, in 'radical' terms.
@land3021
3 ай бұрын
"How dare, a servant, of this regime we call a company, express ingratitude! We pay them money, yet they dare do an action as simple as point at their work because we asked them to do so! Truly disgraceful heretics! They must know their place which we constantly shift lower and lower until they cannot even point anything at anyone anymore, cause we don't want our workers to do our bidding, we just want them gone as soon as possible, whether that requires chipping away at the system that forces us to pay them, or coercing them into thinking we're on their side! There will be NO MORE competition!"
@17th_Colossus3 ай бұрын
Voting with your dollar is the easiest method but a drop in the ocean at the end of the day. The best method is contacting companies directly. Sending real physical mail (or at least emailing) and yes, even picking up the phone. You’d be surprised how few people it takes to change something when there is a real human interaction behind that change. It’s how the other side did it, so let’s use their own weapon against them.
@MasterDecoy1W
3 ай бұрын
The other side has a legal and academic framework that actively cooperates with and subsidizes them. They were swimming with the current and you will not be. It is illegal to be based. I'm not advocating for inaction, but when you've taken all the ground you can with consumer activism and you see how far you still have to go, I just want you to understand why.
@SkylineFTW97
3 ай бұрын
@@MasterDecoy1W Nothing truly worthwhile in life comes easy. That just means we need to fight harder and maintain high morale. Because our success will mean a better future.
@baddragonite3 ай бұрын
On the Gravity Rush not being pushed thing, it genuinely would not surprise me if some of these people would say "Fun games is racism because it's based on a heteronormative white male standard for what constitutes good game design"
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
I've seen people on twitter once claim that having nostalgia makes you a racist and a fascist. Their logic goes something along the lines of "there was more bigotry in the past, wanting to go back to those times or thinking old times were better means you were fine with there being more bigotry".
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
@inendlesspain4724 Ah yes, I believe that was _a quote from Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto._ You can't make this shit up!
@baddragonite
3 ай бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 after the stuff with the Smithsonian claiming that something like "being on time" is a white construct because somehow other ethnic groups experience time differently nothing really surprises me anymore
@hanyuukawaiinanodesu3 ай бұрын
Funny how you can start a site for tracking streamers who play the wizard game, try to get a guys steam account banned for pointing out what games SBI worked on, or even slander someone to the point of [self imposed cessation] and you don't ever have to worry about their "optics". But if some rando who nobody ever met or talked to joins a discord server tracking what games SBI has worked on and hawks slurs for a few minutes before getting banned, suddenly we all need to have a serious discussion about "optics".
@justlloyd78813 ай бұрын
"You aren't winning a factual argument against a group whose sole tactic is emotional manipulation". This right here 💯💯💯 This is why I've grown to distance myself from social media and some people in the real world. Facts are seldom the prime focus of a lot of discussions/debates. Feelings matter more than facts and reallty..
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
calling out the manipulation and blindly exposing the truth while creating you own media to replace them and applying for jobs like cm and climbing the ladder destroying their ability to infect is the best method.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
this fundamentally misunderstands what's going on here no one is trying to win over the sjws this is about informing non-sjws that they are being attacked by sjws.......
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, joining twitter was what got me to grow out of being a flip-flopper. Getting to see how these people really think and, through first-hand experience realizing that, no matter how nice you are to them or how much care you put into your arguments, you're gonna get the same rude, aggressive and emotionally deranged responses and accusations from them, got me to take a more firm stance about protecting what I love and believe in.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
my reply got shadowbanned v_v .... this fundamentally misunderstands what's going on here no one is trying to win over the socjus's this is about informing non-socjus's that they are being attacked by socjus's.......
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 plankton: CORRECT! >:)
@Wol3333 ай бұрын
This is a good reminder how the focus should be on how these people are hate filled grifters. Don't worry about what they call you, they will always find a way to hate.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
Very true. Hatred neither knows nor cares for anything else except its object.
@supershot97293 ай бұрын
Honestly id be happy with a full on games market crash at this point, a reset is needed clearly
@tentacletimeeternal-38123 ай бұрын
IMO, GG1's main fadeaway was a mixture of how many people kept on wanting to appear at the spearhead of things + how many "operations" to do things, like emails and what not, were hyped up and then given so little commitment and followthrough. And people already chomping at the bit for announcing GG2 is happening when we have a general shift happening because the money is drying up. Google's firings should already be a clear picture of that. Kotaku switching to game guides while one employee had to armtwist her way into being allowed to continue to write besmirching tabloids is another notch. To put something in one of their clickbaity headlines: "The recessive economy is making companies buckle on social issues; """""""and that's a good thing""""""" ".
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
Blindly focus on the truth, calling out hypocrisy, and embedding yourself into the gaming industry because if we do this enough we can kick them out.
@SleepyRulu3 ай бұрын
This why we need gatekeepe flip floppers.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
and start getting jobs as translators, community managers, etc.
@NoraNoita
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 literally telling someone to get a job, to make positive change.
@riseshiningundam
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400recapturing the flag
@eddoh2701
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 create your own, 99 out 100 of us will fail, but the 1 who makes it, we must PUSH HIM HARD, to create a new industry and gatekeep from the old guard.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
the most vile of creatures yes....
@coughcough33233 ай бұрын
Because Gravity rush was made by a full JP team with no Western values forced in.
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
The studio is literally named "Japan studios" and is set in Tokyo. You can't get more japanese than that.
@eldestdragon57663 ай бұрын
I’m getting rather annoyed by the people who are apathetic to DEI occasionally calling out its worst examples but then shaming people who call it out more consistently, even in its more subtle cases, for being “cultural warriors” and “just as bad as the activists/other side.” This stuff always starts off small, and is allowed to grow because people tolerate it. The reason people might be a bit too quick to get out the pitchforks now is because of pattern recognition.
@GodOfOrphans
3 ай бұрын
This^ the people who are legit a bit trigger happy are the direct product of the villains who created this mess in the first place people who have the audacity to call them just as bad are victim blamers, at best and infiltrators at worst.
@eldestdragon5766
3 ай бұрын
@@GodOfOrphans For sure. While it is frustrating that some people jump the gun and call things “woke” when they aren’t necessarily so, I can’t really blame them since we have been inundated with this crap for so long.
@Joseph_Myers3 ай бұрын
"In this Urkle-fication" - Dimitri This line is amazing and the reference is wonderful.
@Amelanduil3 ай бұрын
Normal functioning person seeing a graffiti: "ah, it's saying "harder", I get it" Terminally online MFs: RACISM DETECTED
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
Who exactly are you talking about SJ w's or anti SJW. Cause I know depending on circumstances both can be like that
@aguyyouneverknew
3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I see it more as a joke of the game getting a "hard R" rating because of its willingness to be sexually edgy and in your face.
@kasi4363
3 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone was calling the developers racist or bigots. I just saw people pointing out how they unintentionally wrote something that didn't translate well in America.
@Amelanduil
3 ай бұрын
@@kasi4363 well I am polish, in the 29 years of my life I only saw a black person twice, so all the racial connotations this might have is lost on me.
@kasi4363
3 ай бұрын
@@Amelanduil I get that. This has always been an issue with localizations. Some things just don't translate well to other countries. Especially when ratings boards lack a global standard.
@1dood3 ай бұрын
you should look up kirsche, who is a vtuber fervently talking about the connections of esg, and all the companies mentioned in the video to a company called bridge
@okairo
3 ай бұрын
Practically no one talks to Kirsche, because they shrug off BRIDGE as harmless or "just another ESG company", not understanding what it really is. I wait for the day she can stand up and just roast everyone.
@Cerebrum123
3 ай бұрын
Bridge, Blackrock, the WEF, and more are all connected to this nonsense.
@frankburnstein1195
3 ай бұрын
@@okairo I saw her Bridge stream, thought she was great and was then surprised that she still colabs with other Phase members. Man I thought they would have been made to disavow her loooong ago. Good on them and the fishman I guess
@okairo
3 ай бұрын
@@frankburnstein1195 Pippa would eat Fishman alive if that happened, and I think he knows it. And Sakana is quite lax compared to Hololive and other corporations. I think he's fine letting them do whatever, so long as Phase doesn't get sued at the end of the day. Likely the reason they won't bring Kirsche as an official member. She'd give Tenma a run for her money in scaring the Fishman, but in a more "I have to keep an eye on her all the time" kind of way.
@alorem123
3 ай бұрын
@@okairoTo his credit, TheQuartering shouted out Kirsche and spoke about bridge not too long ago
@mothfollower42313 ай бұрын
Can not stand people who will call out these useless cosultancy firms and bad writing caused by them, but will also turn on you the momment you suggest that changing an astablished character's skin color/sexuality is dumb and performative.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
the "muh both sides" fence sitters are truly detestable slime yes.....
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
@@iamLI3 Seems like you're too much in this culture war if you think that.
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
Maybe it is but it depends on how they treat the character after the change.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
@@mr.brooks6805 you have fun with your fair weather friends then......
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
@@iamLI3 My friends aren't fair whether you really should stop watching a bunch of anti SJW grifters because they messed up your brain and don't realize people are more complicated than that.
@miller423 ай бұрын
People naming it "Gamergate 2" was the biggest mistake. That's what the gamejournos wanted, an easy target.
@an2qzavok
2 ай бұрын
journos are the ones who started to throw the GG2 name around first
@miller42
2 ай бұрын
@@an2qzavok Exactly. That's what the gamejournos wanted and those taking part in "GG2" fell for it.
@takerusatou47523 ай бұрын
I will never forget Senran Kagura
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
#NoPlayStation6
@MrTerrorFace3 ай бұрын
It's funny how these companies are trying to make characters be less stereotypical and yet they unintentionally create new stereotypes as a result.
@matteste
3 ай бұрын
Yea, and you can really tell when something has been worked on by them, especially when you compare with another work that talk about the same topics but is instead written by someone who truly cares. It is such a night and day difference.
@Blurredborderlines3 ай бұрын
If video games as a medium "dies" over grifters co-opting it, I'm more than fine with it at this point. These people are always obvious, you either buy into their bullshit or you see through it and deal with it accordingly. The only people still bringing up GG are people who were responsible for fucking it up in the first place.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
70+ dollar games, mtx, forced updates, always online, kernel level anti-cheat, invasive drm, apealing to investors rather than customers, and nepotism are enough to kill gaming in the next few years
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 They're gonna reach a point at which AAA gaming will have to survive off braindead whales, because even your typical mobile gacha game doesn't get as ridiculous as the modern AAA industry.
@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463
3 ай бұрын
Gamergate was pretty much doomed from the start by it’s own concept.
@SeffTrollins3 ай бұрын
To be fair to Eric July he has been made more aware recently with the japanese esg approach recently so at the very least hes more well informed about that stuff especially with the deal with companies like Capcom. Pretty decent video, though.
@metronome84713 ай бұрын
"Personally Im just here to push gaming industry off a cliff." - Rei Ryghts.
@KiraSlith3 ай бұрын
4:50 Small correction, Sony is definitely NOT a Japanese company anymore. Sega on the other hand... continues to find new ways to disappoint as another company that isn't what who grew up with anymore.
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
Soyny of Commiefornia gone full Hollyweird, never go full Hollyweird. #SonyCheck #NoPlayStation6
@Code7Unltd
3 ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Being honest, Playstation's controllers are the only good thing about their consoles (hence there being people with Dualsense pads, but no PS5 units). The true problem has always been centralized capital (harbouring in Wall Street), but the nonsense will continue as long as capital makes money easily and quickly. "They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off." -Hosea 8:4 King James Version, Public Domain
@popers13283 ай бұрын
I used to say that some people would consider the Sorceress from dragon's crown lolicon bait as a joke to exaggerate how dumb antis are when they try to label anything as loli to use as ammo to attack people for liking games and anime. I didn't realize that actually happened.
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
They've taken the association between traditional beauty and youthfulness to deranged extremes.
@MrSirHenryMF
3 ай бұрын
You know how it is: "You like big breasted women? You porn addicted pervert!" "What, you like small breasted women, too? You PDF!" ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
@DyxoXinoro2 ай бұрын
Man, Gravity Rush deserved better. Kat keeps getting punished after breaking Playstation All Star's competitive scene sideways.
@regimania25023 ай бұрын
Hardly anyone takes gaming journalism seriously anymore. I hope to say the same about DEI consulting five years from now.
@GameBooAdvancePlus3 ай бұрын
Before I even watch the video I gotta say I gave up on "GG2" the second I saw the same people involved with the first one being behind everything. It's simply just a lost cause. Those people are too entrenched in the industry and too wise on how to manipulate the public opinion that no matter what awful shit people say the public will be on their side. It's just not worth it. Also never forget Zoe Quinn drove a man to death in 2019.
@OfficialDJSoru
3 ай бұрын
And now same man's sister is running one of these ESG companies. Honestly I don't know how one would be so willing to work along with the people who drove their family member to suicide.
@GameBooAdvancePlus
3 ай бұрын
@@OfficialDJSoru given he took his own life, his sister likely gave him the same support the rest of his 'friends' did: that being scorn and rejection. Truly monsterous behavior.
@Harley_Mitchelly
3 ай бұрын
And then they win. Because you have accepted the change.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
@@GameBooAdvancePlus Greed trumps humanity in this people
@GodOfOrphans
3 ай бұрын
@OfficialDJSoru it's actually really easy to understand once you realize that genuine unrepentant and irredeemably evil people exist, once you've acknowledged that terrifying reality it's perfectly understandable.
@hilotakenaka3 ай бұрын
Honestly this is a pretty good video. When it comes to TAL’s take on “it’s not political” it stems from two beliefs 1) the idea that none of the people who push the message actually believe it; they’re just grifters 2) That gamergate collapsed by people turning it into a political issue, in turn dividing the members on political lines, and people shouldn’t focus on things like “they put type a and type b body types in the game instead of male or female” With the first point, there are absolutely people who were just milking the situation for money: Anita Sarkeesian was 100% mostly doing it to advance her own career and for the cash (we can tell by how trans members of Feminist Frequency came out and said they weren’t paid.) However to say that EVERYONE who is affiliated with Sweet Baby Inc is a shill with zero earnestness in their beliefs is an impossibility. Alyssa Mercante, for example, does genuinely seem to unironically believe what she says. She outright says sexy video game characters should be “treated like strippers.” Coming out of anyone else’s mouth, it would’ve been called skeevy and perverted - especially since “stripperiffic” was used as a jab for female character designs back during the original GamerGate - but Alyssa IS (or was) a sex worker; she’d unironically believe it was a complement. The second point is somewhat true, and somewhat false. Yes, GamerGate did fall apart due to people’s politics not aligning but, as you pointed out, it was already a fairly political issue. It was the exacerbation of it and introducing other elements into it that killed it. GG2 already STARTED with all of the other elements in it, so people siding against Sweet Baby already know what they’re getting into. People who would’ve capitulated to Gamergate 1’s journalists don’t do so now because all the cards are shown. Also as a side point, TAL uses the fact that games like Saints Row 3/4 had the option to mash up male and female with different body types as evidence that “body type 1/2 was always here” when in reality there’s a major difference between how it used to be a source of humour rather than nowadays when it’s used for a weird political issue, as well as a major difference between the mindsets of the people who are implementing it now vs then. Keep in mind this isn’t me just hating on TAL; I really like the guy and his content. I just disagree with this take of his in particular. Edit: whoops I accidentally edited over Dmitri hearting the comment
@rb98769
3 ай бұрын
GG never had a chance to win because the ultimate conclusion to be drawn from it was that whoever gets to build the narrative in the end decides who is right and who is wrong, regardless of how much reason and evidence you bring to the table. This is what got so many people disillusioned in the first place. The difference today is that games journalism is undergoing a slow and agonizing death, and, as you mentioned, everyone is more aware of how intellectually dishonest these people are.
@MaverickhunterXZero3 ай бұрын
A lot of the old GG became complacent, saying how it's already over, or not to be a culture warrior. They don't want to fight since they already etched out their foothold. Much like how hacks like Arin Hanson saying racist jokes are the worst thing, while having done so, saying he's "grown up" while being extremely immature. They'll push up the ladder up so no one can follow.
@Rihcterwilker3 ай бұрын
They basically create a non-existent problem that only them have a solution. Great video.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
The mechanism here is well known, and derives from a perversion of the Hegelian Dialectic. _Problem:_ create a problem. _Reaction:_ wait for public outcry in reaction to the problem. _Solution:_ present a "solution" already prepared which will not solve the problem, but will, instead, make it worse, but which the people will now readily accept just to "do something about the problem".
@LouisIXLeGrandDieudonne-pb4dj3 ай бұрын
You need to become THE culture instead of trying to keep alive a decaying corpse.
@ckangaroo15k3 ай бұрын
Very good and comprehensive video. It's a shame seeing all of the new big names of today fall for the same traps and pitfalls of 7 years ago.
@animeproblem10703 ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest things everyone could do right now is try and talk to people like the side scrollers podcast and rippa along with AZ and try and get them to understand their misconceptions hell I'd be pretty cool to see Dimitri on side scrollers
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
I hope they aren't touchy about the whole lolicon thing, especially since if memory serves me right (and I really, really hope it doesn't in this instance) Razorfist, who's good friends with both July and AZ and tends to be part of the same circles, has shown to be against lolicons in the past on twitter.
@nicolasvenezuelaverde11843 ай бұрын
WOW The black Valkyrie and fat Thor in God of war makes sense now
@DesOttsel
3 ай бұрын
Nah, fat Thor is actually pretty accurate. He’s supposed to have a strongman build
@nicolasvenezuelaverde1184
3 ай бұрын
@@DesOttsel That may be but their extra touch proves they wouldn't oppose their virtue why oppose others?
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
@@nicolasvenezuelaverde1184 I don't think these people favor obese men as part of their DEI objectives, it's only when it's obese women. If anything, I've seen some of these same people shame men for being fat.
@hue1676
3 ай бұрын
@@DesOttsel Yes and that's the problem because they go for the strongmang "fat" thor build and say is accurate but then the Black Angrboda is defended with the "it's series were you kill gods and there is magical stuff" argument, so is a case of wanteing your cake and eating it too.
@l0sts0ul893 ай бұрын
I wish i got paid to do nothing like Sweet Baby Inc and adjacent Studios
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
200k a year and could not figure how to google country flags, truly inspirational.
@l0sts0ul89
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe Living the dream man, living the dream.
@hairyguysketches97993 ай бұрын
18:00 Hilarious how you use that tweet as an example, because there are rumors that in season 2 of live action avatar Toph will not be blind specificly because they thought it was too offensive! It's perfect!
@Plxlinixy3 ай бұрын
A better title for this would be "Optics" never Matter, only Rhetoric and action does.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
Might take this, couldn't decide what the | should be here.
@RazzleTheRed13 ай бұрын
That is true that you aren't going to win them over with factual arguments... However the factual arguments aren't really intended for them, they are to convince passersby. If someone who doesn't know anything about either side sees one person using facts and the other just cussing and calling them every insult they are most likely just going to see the insulting person as crazy and in the wrong. Will gamergate 2 fail? Maybe, but I'd argue we have a lot more advantages we didn't have back then... Over the past decade trust in the media had continued to decline the entire time, half the sites that were spreading lies back then are gone and you see Twitter's community notes feature shutting down lies constantly. I like our odds tbh
@computervision557
3 ай бұрын
The platforms we use to fight back, are belongs to the authority, it is just like the situation of 2077 mentioned
@snipermagoo
3 ай бұрын
My concern is that we don't seem to have a next step. The initial explosion has settled and now it's all going quiet.
@torrasque0151
3 ай бұрын
@@snipermagoo Yep. It's over. See you in another 10 years with GG3, even less consequential.
@Zetact_3 ай бұрын
In my opinion I think the question of whether the movement is likely to "succeed" or "fail" is entirely based on what the win-con is defined as. If the goal is just to get woke stuff out of our hobbies then it's probably doing all right, the pendulum is swinging in that direction. But if the goal is to get quality products it's already showing that really isn't the case. We're seeing a ton of fairly mediocre products see massive monetary success for the primary reason being "they piss off woke people." I mean Hogwarts Legacy is explicitly woke but it was raised as a "victory" for "our side" just because some people don't like JK Rowling. If the mainstream news outlets screeched about Forspoken or Suicide Squad we'd be seeing people defending them as "our" games and saying that they were actually amazing.
@theratmaid3 ай бұрын
Very thankful you blured Asmongold and put text over his face, no one should be forced to see his roach infested home.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
Just doing what I can to protect the people
@ticklemonster79563 ай бұрын
An unexpected call out video, but a welcome one...
@musicandPopCulture33343 ай бұрын
The reason I think gamergate 2 will fail is because most people don’t care about who makes the games. If people like how a games looks, they will play it anyways. For example, a lot of people highlight how Spider-Man 2 is woke, but it still has a lot of sales and a lot of popular KZreadrs were playing it. How do we make people more aware of the issues at hand?
@izzyd8853 ай бұрын
New upload and I got the new SSJ3 goku unit. Life's good.
@sjonn2088
3 ай бұрын
New upload and I got shafted... but life's still good.
@82automan3 ай бұрын
They censored Stellar Blade, we still have a long way to go.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
As I said in the video, trusting modern Sony is a losing game. SU made a deal with the devil
@sanderkiki3 ай бұрын
To fail it should've started more than on some small niche twitter circles.
@inendlesspain47243 ай бұрын
It's a good thing that these people, much like cartoon villains, lay their plans bare for everyone to see because they're so arrogant that they assume there is nothing anybody can do at this point to stop them.
@frustratedsquirrel3 ай бұрын
Sadly, I don't think culture can change back to the way it was before unless something happens to the money movers. I'm talking companies like Patreon, Paypal, banks etc who constantly update their policies in order to make it very hard for anyone to create their own stuff outside of approved circles. People say that if you don't like it, make your own. But you can't make your own and have it be profitable, because you can't move the money unless you adhere to the culture that made the thing bad in the first place.
@Tony4You3 ай бұрын
This was a very well made video. I appreciate the lack of insane catastrophizing over the opposite side "wanting us dead" or something and the hopeful ending is nice. I always believed the sad truth is just there are a ton of people who have these weird political beliefs and will do anything to push it. The industry is full of them, but eventually it will stop and go back to normal. I just want passionate developers that make what they want, rather than what they feel they HAVE to make.
@carlosbatista6319
3 ай бұрын
Tony you're here!? What pleasant surprise.
@Perdix643 ай бұрын
This is why I like Indie Games more, they’re fun, some are experimental, and most are surprisingly more forward thinking than Sweet Baby.
@loliH93 ай бұрын
How have people not learned yet that the right answer to being called racist/sexist is not "no, I'm not" but "how so?"?
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
And that is what I call sensitivity.
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
No the correct answer is: "yes, and?"
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
@@vidmastereon Only if you actually are, in which case be prepared with receipts or they'll try to catch you lacking like the bloodsucking vultures they are.
@loliH9
3 ай бұрын
@@vidmastereon No, you idiot. They control the frame and what little "values" we have left in the West. You'd just be admitting to the accusation, which is all they care about.
@TheLastSoundNL3 ай бұрын
I disagree and agree with a few things. I don't think GG 2 will fail and optics do matter. There are grifters you want to keep out, people who genuinely change their minds, but there also new normies looking in you want to convince. This is not a fight in a closed room, but a (inter)national televised boxing match. The obvious grifter like Matt walsh was immediately pushed back on heavily, maybe unlike Milo before. Chris was asked a few years ago on GG by a woke chatter, he still stands by that sjws were completely crazy. I don't think you say that if you didn't believe in GG at the time and keep videos up, but changed your mind a little bit. Matt Jarbo did the complete 180 it just blew up in his face. Fortunate for us the racism and sexism to paint your enemies as is becoming less and less effective that even normies, or regular creators not invested in the culture war, are increasingly not buying it. Plus there is evidence of harassment, racism and obvious lies from sbi and Kotaku writers. It's just true and dei is racist. The factual argument matters for them. You can't look as insane as your opponents. You can't blame them for trying to keep their ass clean. sbi detected is under the eye of woke sauron. any slip up and there is danger of them getting banned off steam, they don't want to give them an excuse. The fact that the division exclusion and inequality initiatives, or didn't earn it, create more controversy, even among those they claim to represent, is right on the money. and, that it's just only to make money also reeks of bullshit. I am an enlightened centrist though. Huge companies are made of people with many different motivations. There are also genuine believers who hire them for that reason. Not surprising as silicon valley is very very left wing. Game companies are not different. It's increasingly more difficult for those in charge to genuinely think that these dei initiatives result in more money as time goes on. activists wanting to grift of large companies can still make them genuine believers. There is nothing better than getting paid for the activism you believe in. 13:31 we also see how Esg goes for journalist outlets. They fired a lot of people or lost their company to be sold for scraps. I have a theory, we either see change within the year, or it will take 4 or 5 years when the investors come to back to check if they're on track of the 5 year plan for the company. we know where these ideas come from, have a name for it, their thought process, tactics, non existing principles, philosophical and psychological underpinning etc.
@mkfenris3 ай бұрын
I've been saying optics dont matter. But no one listens.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
If you do not desire to win.
@JKLZREFAN
3 ай бұрын
You're completely right, and I been trying to tell people that bitter truth as well. Optics is larping, people would rather stay comfortable and play pretend they can fix things without actually doing anything no matter how many times they lose because of it. If your first priority is to please your enemy who wants you destroyed to earn the good boy points called "optics," you have already lost. There are "adults" and people who consider themselves "experts" in poltics that can't figure this out, lol.
@RefreshingMirage3 ай бұрын
We’re doing a sequel, that’s what we do in Hollywood, and everybody knows that the sequel’s never quite as good Reference aside, this time, we need to get direct with stopping these industry people, also the websites of these people going down by community notes and calling out misinformation is great to see, I feel this time, we will win, and win even better than before
@Sketch_XR3 ай бұрын
Malicious investment companies, incompetent game publishers, and wolves in sheep's clothing posing as consultants on one side. And on the other side, opportunistic KZreadrs with comics to sell, ex-game devs sperging out about character outfits being altered slightly with some lace, and a dozen vets of GG1 repeating the same steps as before. And then there's everyone else in the crossfire. The only solution is for people to put their money where their mouths are and either (A) stop buying games form particular companies, or (B) learn to express opinions without defaulting to the popular buzzwords of the current zeitgeist. At least until option (C) can arrive, and someone properly competent can step up and produce games or entertainment, without any fear of blow black, that people will want to support.
@SolidStateSimulations
3 ай бұрын
Well said.
@celvinardenwu5382
3 ай бұрын
Yup, people always get mad when someone said they are trying to be neutral but the think is most of the majority of people are always ended up in the middle, life always have a balance you can't go to sad and go to happy, isn't this literally what all humanity have been dealing with? This is just the same shit with different colours all over again
@an2qzavok2 ай бұрын
Bad news: you can't win if there's no victory condition. Good news: you can't loose either.
@minecraftbuildswithme47973 ай бұрын
It's a human right violation that we didn't get Gravity rush 3.😭Great video btw! Anyways lol, I always say this for representation in gaming, Good representation comes from the heart or passion of storytelling, and the desire for wanting to share the love of creating a fantasy world and it's characters, not from a DUI quota fill out sheet because corporate demanded so. The race, sex, or orientation of one's character does not determine if a game or a story will be good, passion does. With talent, ambition and passion, you can all create amazing works of art and media no matter what character is on screen. The power of passion and commitment can allow one's self infinite potentiality, something that corporate doesn't have.
@foisopracurtir6389
3 ай бұрын
Weren't Grummz and Kabrutus trying to say the same thing when this guy said they were trying to appeal to the other side? Why he hearted your comment?
@emeraldsplash98803 ай бұрын
Nothing but facts in this video. I just really disdain the fake inclusiveness they try to spew out.
@ProudAjax3 ай бұрын
Once a person denies reason and reality, convincing them is pointless because no matter how well thought out or reality based your argument is, it won't matter. The only thing you can do is stand up to their evil and make yourself heard to the people who aren't morally and intellectually bankrupt. Excellently framed.
@HoneyBadgerArcade3 ай бұрын
Well done! It is really important that we be courageous and not allow tolerance to be our demise!
@kelwdavicuddui56773 ай бұрын
I think you're overlooking 2 things. 1.) Gamergate one calmed down cause they won. The journalists were both fined by the FTC and forced to update their older reviews and articles to admit to what they were accused of, and had their reputations destroyed in the gaming public eye. People outside of the gaming public would remain unaware of this but they didn't read or respect what gaming journalists had to say in the first place. 2.) Even normal non-gaming people are becoming increasingly negatively affected by woke DEI ESG stuff and pushing back against it too. We might not be united as a front with them cause they still don't care about games, but they still hate the ESG DEI too and are pushing back against them elsewhere.
@NintendanGX3 ай бұрын
Speaking of Gravity Rush, it's funny how instead of saving up for PlayStation's current-gen console, I'm exploring Japan Studios' past games on older hardware. Since modern PlayStation has nothing to offer me anymore, I'm forced to look to the past, getting a Vita and the handful of exclusives it still has, and even a PlayStation Move of all things. I'm not lying when I say I'm having more fun playing Ape Escape Move than I ever had with Horizon 1 or the recent God of War games. That's how low the bar is. Even the few games they put out that interest me even slightly, I can already buy on my more powerful PC, even via a second-hand key if I don't want any money to go to the publisher. All the PS5 currently has going for it is Astro's Playroom, Rise of the Ronin, and Stellar Blade, and those last two are likely timed-exclusives. All three could easily be ported to Steam, by the way. Astro would require dualsense, but it's a small price to pay when I can use that controller on other PC games.
@Coreagrus
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm much the same. Heck, the reason I even have a PS4 is Gravity Rush 2 and a PS5 - Returnal. I barely use the systems now. I guess that's its own topic: If modern consoles are worth a damn. I did also spend a lot of time with Japan Studio titles on past systems as well, which is why a part of me died when, iirc, Sony closed down Japan Studio.
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
Stellar Blade *needs* to be freed from Soyny of Commiefornia, murderers of the Senran Kagura franchise, Microsoft needs to cancel their plans to jump on the woke train in solidarity with Soyny and remember what they are: the grown-up gamer brand, not a Sweet Baby box for babies! #SonyCheck #NoPlayStation6 #MakeXboxGreatAgain
@Felix-bj3rc3 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how many billions they spend, human behaviour will stay the same, people like beautiful things and that will never change.
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
They know they can't change. We all know the emperor in naked, but if you say it out loud, you get arrested. The goal is to scare you compliance.
@elautoelectrico59573 ай бұрын
Your social-political analysis is excellent, your opinion is always pleasant to hear. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Greetings from Latin America.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
Thank you!! I also love Dragonball
@elautoelectrico5957
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe XDDD
@yakdeculture97613 ай бұрын
You should check out the NeverKnowsBest video on Gamergate 2. The worst video on this subject I've ever had to watch that I finally unsubscribed from him. Conflating independent youtubers talking about gamergate 2 and woke shit in games is apparently tantamount to (or even worse) than industry devs, game journalism webstes, and game community managers blasting their customers and hating them in public.
@acemori1789
3 ай бұрын
I've my own problems with NKB video, but I still his s good content creator. And was coming from the right place with his vid on SBI.
@FrostbiteDigital
3 ай бұрын
The comments section of that video is a Reddit-tier leftist minefield. Good lord, some of the takes they had is honestly head-banging-against-the-wall educing. I got into an argument over someone actually defending Zoe Quinn lol
@torrasque0151
3 ай бұрын
@@FrostbiteDigital There's people in THIS comment section defending Chelsea, I responded to one of them.
@tempoaccla40413 ай бұрын
Elon buying twitter so people aren't scared of speaking their minds anymore and Pokemon GO turning into characters with paid outfits into genderless blobs are probably the two biggest reasons this pendulum swing might fully happen after all People being able to fight back on social media and women realizing that maybe intersectional feminism and what it spawned kinda ruined literally everything are two very important things in this fight
@zore58723 ай бұрын
FINALLY!!! Someone else knows what happened to senran kagura
@TheShuckmeister3 ай бұрын
This is a great video! Keep doing this awesome research cause it really brings things together. Also, pointing out the effort Sucker Punch puts into everything they do is always appreciated!
@matsuringo243 ай бұрын
It’s not fair, how is he cute AND insightful?! 😭 Content creator needs correction… 💢
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
HUH
@matsuringo24
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe😳
@davos46673 ай бұрын
Lets see if the usual grifters (AKA Asmongold) actually end up responding to this
@kittenfan7664
3 ай бұрын
If Asmingold is a grifter, then that word means somethinc compleatly different.
@genyatus3 ай бұрын
Ironic that Stellar Blade turns out to be censored
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
As I said in my video, it's not wise to trust modern Sony. SU made a deal with the devil and they are paying for it, should have not been exclusive.
@genyatus
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe while an NDA is most likely in place, I hope they respond to the issue Bottom line, I hope they go "fuck it. We stick to gacha"
@TBODB
3 ай бұрын
@genyatus Shift Up is a lost cause. Ever since Destiny Child, they take pride in choosing the worst publisher for their product. That game died. Their current game Nikke is published by Level Infinite who is owned by Tencent who insisted on their AGGRESSIVELY horny game maintaining a Teen ESRB rating all while attempting to push $60 skins as the norm. Signing a deal with Sony when they're known to punch down on smaller studios and indies as a pastime, especially when you have even the smallest curve on a woman in your game, was asking for hate to be shot their way. Now they're going publicly traded and will probably be bought out or at least have their majority shares bought out by Sony or Tencent, it's only a matter or time for them to squander the platform they were given by their (not for long) target audience.
@darkjelly9443 ай бұрын
I've just begun mass downloading ROMs and fanscanlations of games and manga. If we ever get to a point where the "initiative I can't say or else KZread will take down my comment" effectively forces everyone on the right into poverty, I'll still have some entertainment to get me through the next few years of it. It starts with a B, ends with an E, and has a RIDG in the middle.
@nevisysbryd74503 ай бұрын
While I agree with most of it otherwise, the layoffs are largely not a strategic failure. Most studios make their money off the investment boom-and-bust cycle, not sales of games themselves. Layoffs are standard strategy for the bust phase.
@TLOWNSU3 ай бұрын
Sorta related but my work has DEI with this month being autism acceptance month, and they list Satoshi Tajiri as a notable autistic person. The problem is that he isn't autistic or at least there's no concrete proof he is 😂
@kvltovpersonality62903 ай бұрын
"Optics Matter" really just means "learn how to sell your message, and to who." That's honestly it. Obviously don't appeal to the other side (the people who hate you), but convincing some Joe Schmo, who probably hasn't even heard of all this stuff, can unfortunately turn them off if you go about informing them the wrong way
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
I just don't believe you need to "sell" your message to some random. The issues that have been creeted werent sold to "normal" people they were adopted by companies via pressure and incentivisied, the Pokemon Go example serves to show this as "normal" people are just if not more pissed about the changes. That's not me saying purposefully be idiotic, my main point is to focus on the real issues, as optics just don't matter no matter what, they will try to present your actions as unjust regardless to "normal" people so stand strong and focus on the issues.
@seg162
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe "Optics" aren't (or shouldn't be) to make yourself look better to the opposition, they're to make sure that their maligning of you isn't in any way accurate, to the extent that you care about. There's no benefit to this-- but there ARE costs to not being mindful of it.
@jlopez80153 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, finally someone says it, this whole thing will go similarly as the last time and quite honestly I won't even bother this time. I assume you were also a witness of GG1 and how the /gg/'ers kept failing and failing again and again all because they were always aiming for "muh optics" and "muh moral high ground" when they should've just just listened and realize that this battle goes beyond the asinine insignificant stuff they complain about, it's about subversion, it's about population control and it's also about your enslavement to those who finance and run the system.
@iamLI33 ай бұрын
i think another factor that's different which is enabling this gamergate 2 (which is just the continuation of gamergate 1) to be in a stronger position than before is how much more ppl are online , savvy , and connected now , which takes away a lot of the need for ppl to seek out talking heads to rally behind to push populist momentum for these social culture war battles ppl now can just see the issues being presented by anyone and delineate for themselves what to think and do about it i didn't even know a month ago sargon went og and started uploading new vids , and after watching his first GG2 one i was a bit shocked to find i disagreed with most of it , and there were others who did as well
@galetempus19793 ай бұрын
May be too early to call this, but I feel like calling this "Gamer Gate 2" is backfiring on the journo's that coined it. Supporting or being associated with the original used to be considered taboo, but the new one has only resurfaced the messed up situation that caused the first one.
@ghostblaster1153 ай бұрын
Etics is important at this scale even if people want to focused on politics, ignoring them or only taking of them are a potential hassard thats why I like your content
@007MrYang3 ай бұрын
Did the creators of spiderman 2 actually think they were being sneaky with that shit? The woke stuff was so on the nose it was painful. This was the only game I actually quit because of the woke stuff. It was just too much.
@michaelclifton94983 ай бұрын
Hopefully the situation with localizers improves,after finding out about all the unnessisary changes made to japanese games and anime, questions like "what's been changed or censored this time" are always in the back of my mind. This still hasn't deterred me from tring to get into voice acting for anime, i just need to deal with my bad habit of putting things off for tomorror over and over again😅
@Take229523 ай бұрын
All gamergate 2 is to me is a bunch of people angry at the mess they themselves started in the first place. They celebrated censorship when it happened to Japanese anime games they never cared for to begin with, then complained when their favorite games got censored and ruined. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't trust almost anyone partaking in gamergate 2.0. It's just people fighting the thing they started, because it doesn't benefit them anymore.
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
Funny how we've been saying for years that censorship is a slippery slop and nobody wanted to listen to us when the focus of censorship was japanese media with cute girls. They deluded themselves into thinking censorship wasn't gonna come after stuff they actually care about if they let it thrive.
@Take22952
3 ай бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724Censorship affects all pieces of fiction. To let it happen to something small is saying that it’s okay to let it happen to any piece of fiction. If I can give my personal thoughts on gamergate 2 and sweet baby inc, I think both groups can swim to an island and fight each other. They’re both the same to me.
@mesugakifan3 ай бұрын
22:49 Even as someone who still thinks about Senran Kagura often I completely forgot about 7EVEN holy shit
@oakkomlatte50043 ай бұрын
I think it's just really difficult to argue and persuade "normal" people, they have no notion of logical fallacies, much like babies with no object permeance, they literally operate on a whole different level, a lower one unfortunately... They start yapping about the lace on her chest or the hard r graffiti, ignoring the bigger picture of mass censorship across character design, environment, gore, language, story, what have you... They are the people they hate the most, and there's irony lost on people who parade diversity, inclusion and love, doing the exact opposite not because of any real morality or sense, but the lack of it, the only principles they have are the ones given to them by faceless soulless aging corpses wearing suits in a boardroom. Honestly, you could broaden this topic and pin down the EXACT kind of person/demographic who parades these agendas, but the conversation will become a little too heated so let's leave it at that...
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
I don't think "normal" people are even really a factor, a lot of what you just listed doesn't come from your average consumer but your typical twitter activist. The Pokemon Go example serves to show that "the average consumer" is more often then not, uninterested in these changes as well. Being the louder voice is ultimately what's important I think, even if it's a bit messy and indelicate.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe and getting inside companies as cm's, translators, and such
@chelsthegameruiner8669
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroeI personally didn't care about the minor changes in Stellar Blade (the Bunny Outfit has a bra in the Western version instead of just nothing), though most people were only interested in thirsting over Eve rather than the actual gameplay from what I've seen. I did mention how annoying it is that those who were cheering for the game's success have now turned against it because of the minor changes on another channel, I've probably been called a snowflake by now for using common sense. If a game is good, I'll buy it. FFXIV is one of my most played games on console because the story hasn't disappointed me yet. I typically avoid politics because I've come to learn that no matter what side you're on, it'll eventually rot your brain. I'm honestly curious how we've reached this divisive point now, I was around after 9/11 so today's climate is a massive culture shock to someone like me
@willmaud2359
3 ай бұрын
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 The Stellar Blade point is moot cause it being a PS exclusive is bad enough. Playing it already meant enabling the devil.
@backupschmliff11563 ай бұрын
Youre my favorite femboy
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
I'm 25 bro I'm already a Christmas cake I'm sorry....
@backupschmliff1156
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe I've played P5. Trust me, that's the best part.
@Daseril3 ай бұрын
As to your last point, I think you are correct voting with your wallet isn't enough, and its also not enough to make our voices heard, we need to get people in and outside the industry. Focusing on anti-Grift/pro-fan and anti-Censorship/pro-creative freedom.
@joshuataylor74433 ай бұрын
Does anyone know that time people were dicks to the people who die in a fire in the studio just because they made miss kobayashi's dragon maid ?
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, now a good chunk of them are running every major entertainment industry in the west, ruining not only western legacy media but localizations of asian media and, in some cases, even asian media itself from the very root. Yet another example of why you shouldn't care about optics; if these people with such horrible public views made it that far, then clearly optics don't matter, and if they do and said horrible views is what they won over the normies with, then I don't want to win over the normies.
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Surely appeasing the people who hate you just a little longer will make them stop hating you any moment now?
@brandonandujar2289
3 ай бұрын
I love Minnie May
@subjectnivleis7572
3 ай бұрын
The corrupt industry: just shut up and and take the trash we give My reply: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mnaFj5akfdebgaw.htmlfeature=shared
@1685Violin
3 ай бұрын
I have another reason why and it's for the same reason a right winger named The Distributist tried to warn Sargon of Akkad about fighting against the far-left back in 2016: lack of institutional support from both universities and governments. Because both institutions are mainly run by a coalition between far-leftists and neoliberals who support an ideology called globalism, they will use power to obfuscate and go around the 1st Amendment to crush decent against their moral worldview. This is even worse when many large companies agree and partner with the politicians to skirt around the 1st Amendment using the "private company" argument. The neocon Republicans also support many of those policies. There is a reason more right wingers refer to those politicians as the "uniparty". It's hard to express this when censorship in the comments section is rising.
@1685Violin
3 ай бұрын
If my long reply is missing, please sort the comments.
@kikihideout4966
3 ай бұрын
How about, dont be naive, and more importantly. DONT BE WEAPONIZED NAIVE.
Funny enough, when Kindred insulted Toriyama, he automatically became an enemy of a large chunk of Latino America because we loved Toriyama. Seriously, most of the replies came from furious Latinos; if there's anything that Latin Americans hate more than each other, it's the term Latinx and people who insult Toriyama.
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
It is amazing how the entire latin america loves Dragon Ball. Like, not even talking about weebs, people whose ONLY anime is Dragon Ball and that is almost their religion.
@darkzeroprojects4245
3 күн бұрын
And progressive types like him resent that those they see as allies reject their politics and narratives. It's why they have no problem being racist scumbags.
Truly a coincidence that a lot of Journo publications released an article about the “Hard R” graffiti almost within minutes of each other. Nah nothing to see here. Truly isn’t similar to when they released multiple articles within minutes of each other proclaiming that “gaming is dead” and that “gamers aren’t your audience anymore” way back when the original movement started. Wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that this (“Hard R” Graffiti) was coordinated in some special chat group or exclusive journo mailing list where they conspired to lob as much slanderous shit about this game as they can.
@SuperSpeedRaven1
3 ай бұрын
Exmilitary pfp hell yeah
@wayofthemasterlord8357
3 ай бұрын
@@SuperSpeedRaven1 if you notice, he’s also wearing those glasses that the Cruelty Squad MC is wearing. when the beat drops I will get noided 😩
@SuperSpeedRaven1
3 ай бұрын
@@wayofthemasterlord8357 that's so rad
@wayofthemasterlord8357
3 ай бұрын
@@SuperSpeedRaven1it is yea, thanks Habibi.
@NoraNoita
3 ай бұрын
apparently the majority of these sites are owned by the same parent company, so stuff is certainly coordinated to release on the same schedule. Saw a video on it by fireb0rn
They literally do the “see see I depicted myself as the Chad and you as the loser” but with wholesomeness
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
“The concept of humanity is an especially useful ideological instrument of imperialist expansion, and in its ethical-humanitarian form it is a specific vehicle of economic imperialism. Here one is reminded of a somewhat modified expression of Proudhon’s: whoever invokes humanity wants to cheat. To confiscate the word humanity, to invoke and monopolize such a term probably has certain incalculable effects, such as denying the enemy the quality of being human and declaring him to be an outlaw of humanity; and a war can thereby be driven to the most extreme inhumanity.” ― Carl Schmitt
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
"Who invokes humanity intends to decieve" -Schmitt
"Never forget what they took from you" Senran Kagura still hurts, those silly little sexy ninja games were truly something special.
The 2020s really is just a direct sequel to the 2010s.
@metronome8471
3 ай бұрын
Gamergate for a modern audience.
@xiiiunmetal
3 ай бұрын
These remakes are so lazy and unoriginal
@someguy9175
3 ай бұрын
@@xiiiunmetal bruh, even god is just reusing material now, what is this...
@MaverickhunterXZero
3 ай бұрын
Except there wad at least some good around the 2010s. Now there's barely anything.
@dexulescu
3 ай бұрын
@someguy9175 inb4 God decides to remake 1933 for modern audiences
"You aren't winning a factual argument against a group whose sole tactic is emotional manipulation. Focus on what actually matters instead of trying to prove yourself to the people who will never accept anything less than total compliance." Couldn't have said it better myself
@Grobut81
3 ай бұрын
Good thing we don't need to then. When the idealogues made the jump from games Journalism, to making games, they sealed their fate. It's real simple: You're not getting me to pay 70 bux to play Forspoken, Sushi Squad, or SW Outlaws. That just isen't happening. Simple as. And looking at how these games have performed, i am certainly not alone. We can't reason with the beast, but we can definately starve it. We're just at the start of this thing, so there's no point counting chickens just yet. We can decide if GG2 was a W or an L after we see the sales numbers for upcomming woke titles over the next couple of years. That's where the fight is won or lost, and my wallet has been training long and hard to lie dormant and unopened on my desk.
@FrostbiteDigital
3 ай бұрын
Exactly. They don't care about facts at all
@marhawkman303
3 ай бұрын
Yeah "optics"... as the saying goes "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".... Well.. so is bad PR. PR is only good or bad if the viewer sees it that way. These recent virtue signaling attempts often get totally ignored or even derided because it's obvious to the viewer that it's not genuine. It's obviously meant to elicit a positive opinion, but it slips the mask and shows people why NOT to believe them. A smear campaign isn't gonna ruin someone if the viewers don't believe it. And that's another thing. these scumbags are liars through and through. You can't have a factual argument with someone who makes up everything as they go along.
@WokioWolfy
3 ай бұрын
@@Grobut81wasn't there a game that came out about African culture made by someone who didn't know anything about it and hired western consultancy firms to do it? Rather than an African one?
@WokioWolfy
3 ай бұрын
@marhawkman303 they lie because they believe to be the good guys, these people actually think about looking like good people rather than being good people that they started believing in their insane ideas.
How can we fight in a debate when the content of our words does not matter, but the emotions and labels attached by others do? We live in the time of the emperor's new clothes, but when the child yells "the emperor is naked" he is shut down and called a porn addict who hates every single minority?
@espurrseyes42
3 ай бұрын
Piracy. Don't want to listen to our words? You don't get our money. If buying your game isn't owning it, then pirating it isn't stealing it.
@sabo-vf3xj
3 ай бұрын
>"How can we fight in a debate" There never was a debate. These people never cared about any sort of discussion, their goal was to control other people through intimidation and shame. Why do you think they always resort to accusations of bigotry before actually engaging with the subject matter? The only way to win is by not playing at all. Just do what you enjoy doing and dismiss their worthless asses. I know it's hard to ignore them, due to humans being social creatures and all that, but not caring about what other people think about you is just something you gotta learn to do if you wanna go anywhere in life. After all, do we really care what the literal whores at kotaku think?
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
@@espurrseyes42 Modern western games aren't even good enough to pirate, and it's been shown that more and more people would rather play old games than buy more recent ones. Voting with your wallet is important, but people are already, loudly, doing that and it's not enough on its own.
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
Simple: win Might makes right
@sabo-vf3xj
3 ай бұрын
There was never a debate, they don't actually care about the conversation, they just care about controlling others through shame and intimidation. Btw, I dunno why youtube keeps deleting my comments. Is this a glitch or something?
“That’s just going to get you called an Uncle Tom.” I hate how true this is. Of course I want more characters in media who look like me or people from other cultures. What I don’t want is some authoritarian stereotype to be forced fed. It’s incredibly ironic how these faux-progressives will be fast to place you in a box of how you or others who look like you are supposed to act rather than just accepting you for who you are. It’s beyond frustrating.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
Yup. That's called _racism. Never_ let them forget how racist and sexist they really are. Don't accept their definitions, for therein lies the trap. If they can define the terms, they can easily win any argument, but only if you buy into their BS definitions. Become the thorn in their side. Become the gadfly that gets in their eyes,. Become the wasp stinging them every chance you get. Make them hate you even more than they already do. Why did Grummz receive a threat on his life? _Because he's effective._ When dad pokes his head in and asks, "Are ya winning, kid?" reply with , "Aw, yeah, Dad. I'm winning like there's no tomorrow." Eat 'em and smile. In your copious free time, you might consider finding and reading the book _Wasp_ by Eric Frank Russell. It's a science fiction novel about how to wage asymmetric warfare to bring down entire planetary governments.
@marhawkman303
3 ай бұрын
They NEED the stereotypes... or they can't file people into boxes to be exploited.
@darkjelly944
2 ай бұрын
We want characters, not mouth-pieces
@darkzeroprojects4245
3 күн бұрын
I guess I'm the exception because I don't want more that look like me or whatever. Just want good characters overall. To me representation these days is just modern day tokenisim at this point.
The only thing those people think about is their fear of socially ostracized. You can see that the don't like those changes but they won't say anything "unpopular".
@juanrodriguez9971
3 ай бұрын
"Hey, why did they race swap this character? He wasn't black" "Omg! Are you racist?! Do you have a problem with black people existing?! They deserve to be represented!" And then you just shut up because you don't want to be known as someone you are not, yet you still know there is a problem of hypocrisy going around.
@deadpansanchez2947
3 ай бұрын
thats the classic fence sitter
@WokioWolfy
3 ай бұрын
Yup
I've said this for a while. If GamerGate 1 was a failure, there would not be a GamerGate 2. For all the shit anyone can sling at the original, it definitely mainstreamed and cemented the idea that games journalists were corrupt hacks. That was the original goal, Sargon declared victory, GG wins. I saw that real time way back when which is why him lamenting that it lost is so disheartening, he himself has forgotten his past. Even if GamerGate 2 doesn't fix the industry, it has now been mainstreamed that this is an issue in some capacity. This is a W, we would be dumb to forget this. It is now open to talk about it. A phrase I remember lately. "If they had already won, their propaganda would be unnecessary." The journos and consultancy firms are in late stage propaganda, the kind designed to demoralize and humiliate people into accepting it. This is not a comment on their capture, but rather the amount of tools they have left. They can have all the institutions in the world... but so long as someone is talking about this, they can't rest. And I relish in that fact, still repping the original in servers and social media I'm in, complete with a backlog of evidence that leaves most people nowadays scrambling to support the harassment narrative and failing. If GG1 failed, it's largely because no one knew the scope of what was at play. Now people do, what with ESG scores and BRIDGE being a known thing. We can afford to fight more offensively now simply because we have a clue what to actually do.
@tokusatsukeyblade797
3 ай бұрын
Exactly, the purpose of both Gamergates is to inform and expose these corrupt hacks for what they are, to damage the fake image they try to present to the public. Any societal changes caused by it is just an added bonus. And we are obviously succeeding in some way. The reason why all the psychotic activists are panicking now is because more and more people are talking about them and the unprofessional, harmful, and toxic behavior they have been engaging in. Heck, the inciting incident for the current incarnation of gamergate was them getting angry over a Brizillian man simply pointing out the existence of a consultancy group. He didn’t make any accusations at them or try to debate them, all he did is point out that they exist, and they lashed out like mindless wild animals. They don’t want people to talk about them or the things they do, because it hurts the image they want to sell. We don’t need to beat them in an argument, we just need to keep talking about them and shining a spotlight on them for others to see.
@tokusatsukeyblade797
3 ай бұрын
Exactly, the purpose of both has always been to inform and expose these hacks for what they are, to talk about them and make it mainstream to discuss their horrible actions. The objective of the movement was never to change the minds of these people, because nothing we say will ever change their minds. These psychos aren’t doing this because they misinformed, they are fully aware of how wrong they are and are doing it anyway out of malicious intent, so there would be no point in trying to get them to change.
@Locksden
3 ай бұрын
Good post. I've never understood people thinking "we" won GG1. Knowing your opponent is wrong is not a win, it's an ego buff. Both "Gamer Gates" were/are about (a) the _perception_ of the wider (non-gamer) part of society, and (b) about the content, packaging, and profit model(s) of games. After GG1, all three got steadily worse from the gamer perspective. I wrote this after the "HD-2 victory" over Sony, but it's just a minor tactical success. We _could_ win this time, but we've barely started.
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
3 ай бұрын
Trying to find a decisive battle often loses the war. Just ask Japan on how their sole focus on fighting the Americans in WWII hinged on this large land-sea-air battle where their side would win out. We just have to hop island to island until we corner the bastards. Even if it means several more "gamer gate" battles, pushing forward slowly while consolidation is key to victory. Sweet baby is one tenticle...Bridge is next followed by Blackrock and Vanguard. Then after them it's whoever else is trying to push this crap.
@Locksden
3 ай бұрын
@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Agree. We could, and _should_ organize for a "long game". Most of the _difficult_ infrastructure (e.g. mass communication) is in place already. But (as with military endeavors), organization is important. We're at least 25 years behind in that. IMO, if we get started on an effective path we could catch up in a year.
Send this video to the Brazilian guy who started the SBI group he needs to see this and spread it to his groups. Remember, spreading the message and speaking about it is massive.
We are fighting against cultural vandalism, political maneuvering, and censorship. They want us to just give in to nihilism and despair. All of this is intentional, so we are easier to control. I used to think it was all just incompetence, but clearly there is much more going on here.
@littlebabyman8494
3 ай бұрын
If see all this as intentional and know it’s intentional but you just give up cause “people are idiots” then you’re a weak willed person unwilling to stand by your beliefs in the face of backlash.
@Cerebrum123
3 ай бұрын
@@littlebabyman8494 That's why I'm doing what I can to fight this. I'm working on some projects and trying to get the word out about what they are doing. There isn't a whole lot I can do with my current situation, but I'm not giving up.
@littlebabyman8494
3 ай бұрын
@@Cerebrum123 wasn’t aimed at you specifically, it’s just someone came to mind when reading your comment.
@Cerebrum123
3 ай бұрын
@@littlebabyman8494 I misunderstood then. It happens more than I would like to admit.
@lemond2007
3 ай бұрын
Demoralization is the first step of the communist revolution.
Trusting Sony/Playstation of all companies out there to release a game like Stellar Blade unchanged was naive from the start. They're almost entirely responsible for the Senran Kagura Series being essentially dead. The moment Shift Up took the Sony money it was over.
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
They should have gone with Microsoft to get uncensored releases on Xbox and PC, and deter Microsoft from their recent decision to jump aboard the woke train in solidarity with Soyny. Wake up, Xbox, you're the grown-up gamer brand, not a Sweet Baby box for babies! #SonyCheck #MakeXboxGreatAgain #NoPlayStation6
@Take22952
3 ай бұрын
Moral of the story is that if you truly want your games to be uncensored, make your own website for it, because these big name companies won’t support your game if you want full creative freedom.
@willmaud2359
3 ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Microsoft has butchered the Rare IPs, so I don't give them too much credit on that front.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
@@Take22952 Freedom of the Press only exists for those who own the presses.
well, you know how the old gamer saying goes "the only hit point that matters is the last one." you only lose when you can't fight anymore, stand strong folks.
"we're really proud of our work" "Cool can you point to it?" "👿 HOW FUCKING DARE YOU"
@mat2th
3 ай бұрын
They would just point to saga anderson from alan wake 2 or some other well received inclusivity change
@joncooke158
3 ай бұрын
@@mat2th That's the most galling part. Their work doesn't have to be shitty or handicap visuals or storytelling. Like, this could be a victory lap for them rather than a hall of shame.
@DMAN99
3 ай бұрын
@@mat2ththat’s the insidious part about this whole thing. Like the spiderman dev clip pointed out. They push these things into popular stuff, so then people automatically associate it as being a good thing or okay. For example, Arcane’s a hugely popular show but they turned a cute punk tomboy into being a butch punk lesbian changing a friendship between women into sapphic fan fiction territory, but because the show is overall good people just give it a pass.
@land3021
3 ай бұрын
Huh, I swear this shit sounds like classic neoliberalism, but in more adequate terms, feudal-monarchy-religious-style authoritarianism... where the corporations are > the workers, and only the corporations get to take credit for their work, but workers are never allowed to have control of, or even make mention of how difficult their work is cause it's "ungrateful" to show any emotions other than gratitude that you can even be allowed in the company you're working in the first place... Basically, speak anything that shifts the focus away from god, and you're a heretic, in 'radical' terms.
@land3021
3 ай бұрын
"How dare, a servant, of this regime we call a company, express ingratitude! We pay them money, yet they dare do an action as simple as point at their work because we asked them to do so! Truly disgraceful heretics! They must know their place which we constantly shift lower and lower until they cannot even point anything at anyone anymore, cause we don't want our workers to do our bidding, we just want them gone as soon as possible, whether that requires chipping away at the system that forces us to pay them, or coercing them into thinking we're on their side! There will be NO MORE competition!"
Voting with your dollar is the easiest method but a drop in the ocean at the end of the day. The best method is contacting companies directly. Sending real physical mail (or at least emailing) and yes, even picking up the phone. You’d be surprised how few people it takes to change something when there is a real human interaction behind that change. It’s how the other side did it, so let’s use their own weapon against them.
@MasterDecoy1W
3 ай бұрын
The other side has a legal and academic framework that actively cooperates with and subsidizes them. They were swimming with the current and you will not be. It is illegal to be based. I'm not advocating for inaction, but when you've taken all the ground you can with consumer activism and you see how far you still have to go, I just want you to understand why.
@SkylineFTW97
3 ай бұрын
@@MasterDecoy1W Nothing truly worthwhile in life comes easy. That just means we need to fight harder and maintain high morale. Because our success will mean a better future.
On the Gravity Rush not being pushed thing, it genuinely would not surprise me if some of these people would say "Fun games is racism because it's based on a heteronormative white male standard for what constitutes good game design"
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
I've seen people on twitter once claim that having nostalgia makes you a racist and a fascist. Their logic goes something along the lines of "there was more bigotry in the past, wanting to go back to those times or thinking old times were better means you were fine with there being more bigotry".
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
@inendlesspain4724 Ah yes, I believe that was _a quote from Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto._ You can't make this shit up!
@baddragonite
3 ай бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 after the stuff with the Smithsonian claiming that something like "being on time" is a white construct because somehow other ethnic groups experience time differently nothing really surprises me anymore
Funny how you can start a site for tracking streamers who play the wizard game, try to get a guys steam account banned for pointing out what games SBI worked on, or even slander someone to the point of [self imposed cessation] and you don't ever have to worry about their "optics". But if some rando who nobody ever met or talked to joins a discord server tracking what games SBI has worked on and hawks slurs for a few minutes before getting banned, suddenly we all need to have a serious discussion about "optics".
"You aren't winning a factual argument against a group whose sole tactic is emotional manipulation". This right here 💯💯💯 This is why I've grown to distance myself from social media and some people in the real world. Facts are seldom the prime focus of a lot of discussions/debates. Feelings matter more than facts and reallty..
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
calling out the manipulation and blindly exposing the truth while creating you own media to replace them and applying for jobs like cm and climbing the ladder destroying their ability to infect is the best method.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
this fundamentally misunderstands what's going on here no one is trying to win over the sjws this is about informing non-sjws that they are being attacked by sjws.......
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, joining twitter was what got me to grow out of being a flip-flopper. Getting to see how these people really think and, through first-hand experience realizing that, no matter how nice you are to them or how much care you put into your arguments, you're gonna get the same rude, aggressive and emotionally deranged responses and accusations from them, got me to take a more firm stance about protecting what I love and believe in.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
my reply got shadowbanned v_v .... this fundamentally misunderstands what's going on here no one is trying to win over the socjus's this is about informing non-socjus's that they are being attacked by socjus's.......
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 plankton: CORRECT! >:)
This is a good reminder how the focus should be on how these people are hate filled grifters. Don't worry about what they call you, they will always find a way to hate.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
Very true. Hatred neither knows nor cares for anything else except its object.
Honestly id be happy with a full on games market crash at this point, a reset is needed clearly
IMO, GG1's main fadeaway was a mixture of how many people kept on wanting to appear at the spearhead of things + how many "operations" to do things, like emails and what not, were hyped up and then given so little commitment and followthrough. And people already chomping at the bit for announcing GG2 is happening when we have a general shift happening because the money is drying up. Google's firings should already be a clear picture of that. Kotaku switching to game guides while one employee had to armtwist her way into being allowed to continue to write besmirching tabloids is another notch. To put something in one of their clickbaity headlines: "The recessive economy is making companies buckle on social issues; """""""and that's a good thing""""""" ".
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
Blindly focus on the truth, calling out hypocrisy, and embedding yourself into the gaming industry because if we do this enough we can kick them out.
This why we need gatekeepe flip floppers.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
and start getting jobs as translators, community managers, etc.
@NoraNoita
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 literally telling someone to get a job, to make positive change.
@riseshiningundam
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400recapturing the flag
@eddoh2701
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 create your own, 99 out 100 of us will fail, but the 1 who makes it, we must PUSH HIM HARD, to create a new industry and gatekeep from the old guard.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
the most vile of creatures yes....
Because Gravity rush was made by a full JP team with no Western values forced in.
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
The studio is literally named "Japan studios" and is set in Tokyo. You can't get more japanese than that.
I’m getting rather annoyed by the people who are apathetic to DEI occasionally calling out its worst examples but then shaming people who call it out more consistently, even in its more subtle cases, for being “cultural warriors” and “just as bad as the activists/other side.” This stuff always starts off small, and is allowed to grow because people tolerate it. The reason people might be a bit too quick to get out the pitchforks now is because of pattern recognition.
@GodOfOrphans
3 ай бұрын
This^ the people who are legit a bit trigger happy are the direct product of the villains who created this mess in the first place people who have the audacity to call them just as bad are victim blamers, at best and infiltrators at worst.
@eldestdragon5766
3 ай бұрын
@@GodOfOrphans For sure. While it is frustrating that some people jump the gun and call things “woke” when they aren’t necessarily so, I can’t really blame them since we have been inundated with this crap for so long.
"In this Urkle-fication" - Dimitri This line is amazing and the reference is wonderful.
Normal functioning person seeing a graffiti: "ah, it's saying "harder", I get it" Terminally online MFs: RACISM DETECTED
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
Who exactly are you talking about SJ w's or anti SJW. Cause I know depending on circumstances both can be like that
@aguyyouneverknew
3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I see it more as a joke of the game getting a "hard R" rating because of its willingness to be sexually edgy and in your face.
@kasi4363
3 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone was calling the developers racist or bigots. I just saw people pointing out how they unintentionally wrote something that didn't translate well in America.
@Amelanduil
3 ай бұрын
@@kasi4363 well I am polish, in the 29 years of my life I only saw a black person twice, so all the racial connotations this might have is lost on me.
@kasi4363
3 ай бұрын
@@Amelanduil I get that. This has always been an issue with localizations. Some things just don't translate well to other countries. Especially when ratings boards lack a global standard.
you should look up kirsche, who is a vtuber fervently talking about the connections of esg, and all the companies mentioned in the video to a company called bridge
@okairo
3 ай бұрын
Practically no one talks to Kirsche, because they shrug off BRIDGE as harmless or "just another ESG company", not understanding what it really is. I wait for the day she can stand up and just roast everyone.
@Cerebrum123
3 ай бұрын
Bridge, Blackrock, the WEF, and more are all connected to this nonsense.
@frankburnstein1195
3 ай бұрын
@@okairo I saw her Bridge stream, thought she was great and was then surprised that she still colabs with other Phase members. Man I thought they would have been made to disavow her loooong ago. Good on them and the fishman I guess
@okairo
3 ай бұрын
@@frankburnstein1195 Pippa would eat Fishman alive if that happened, and I think he knows it. And Sakana is quite lax compared to Hololive and other corporations. I think he's fine letting them do whatever, so long as Phase doesn't get sued at the end of the day. Likely the reason they won't bring Kirsche as an official member. She'd give Tenma a run for her money in scaring the Fishman, but in a more "I have to keep an eye on her all the time" kind of way.
@alorem123
3 ай бұрын
@@okairoTo his credit, TheQuartering shouted out Kirsche and spoke about bridge not too long ago
Can not stand people who will call out these useless cosultancy firms and bad writing caused by them, but will also turn on you the momment you suggest that changing an astablished character's skin color/sexuality is dumb and performative.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
the "muh both sides" fence sitters are truly detestable slime yes.....
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
@@iamLI3 Seems like you're too much in this culture war if you think that.
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
Maybe it is but it depends on how they treat the character after the change.
@iamLI3
3 ай бұрын
@@mr.brooks6805 you have fun with your fair weather friends then......
@mr.brooks6805
3 ай бұрын
@@iamLI3 My friends aren't fair whether you really should stop watching a bunch of anti SJW grifters because they messed up your brain and don't realize people are more complicated than that.
People naming it "Gamergate 2" was the biggest mistake. That's what the gamejournos wanted, an easy target.
@an2qzavok
2 ай бұрын
journos are the ones who started to throw the GG2 name around first
@miller42
2 ай бұрын
@@an2qzavok Exactly. That's what the gamejournos wanted and those taking part in "GG2" fell for it.
I will never forget Senran Kagura
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
#NoPlayStation6
It's funny how these companies are trying to make characters be less stereotypical and yet they unintentionally create new stereotypes as a result.
@matteste
3 ай бұрын
Yea, and you can really tell when something has been worked on by them, especially when you compare with another work that talk about the same topics but is instead written by someone who truly cares. It is such a night and day difference.
If video games as a medium "dies" over grifters co-opting it, I'm more than fine with it at this point. These people are always obvious, you either buy into their bullshit or you see through it and deal with it accordingly. The only people still bringing up GG are people who were responsible for fucking it up in the first place.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
70+ dollar games, mtx, forced updates, always online, kernel level anti-cheat, invasive drm, apealing to investors rather than customers, and nepotism are enough to kill gaming in the next few years
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 They're gonna reach a point at which AAA gaming will have to survive off braindead whales, because even your typical mobile gacha game doesn't get as ridiculous as the modern AAA industry.
@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463
3 ай бұрын
Gamergate was pretty much doomed from the start by it’s own concept.
To be fair to Eric July he has been made more aware recently with the japanese esg approach recently so at the very least hes more well informed about that stuff especially with the deal with companies like Capcom. Pretty decent video, though.
"Personally Im just here to push gaming industry off a cliff." - Rei Ryghts.
4:50 Small correction, Sony is definitely NOT a Japanese company anymore. Sega on the other hand... continues to find new ways to disappoint as another company that isn't what who grew up with anymore.
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
Soyny of Commiefornia gone full Hollyweird, never go full Hollyweird. #SonyCheck #NoPlayStation6
@Code7Unltd
3 ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Being honest, Playstation's controllers are the only good thing about their consoles (hence there being people with Dualsense pads, but no PS5 units). The true problem has always been centralized capital (harbouring in Wall Street), but the nonsense will continue as long as capital makes money easily and quickly. "They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off." -Hosea 8:4 King James Version, Public Domain
I used to say that some people would consider the Sorceress from dragon's crown lolicon bait as a joke to exaggerate how dumb antis are when they try to label anything as loli to use as ammo to attack people for liking games and anime. I didn't realize that actually happened.
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
They've taken the association between traditional beauty and youthfulness to deranged extremes.
@MrSirHenryMF
3 ай бұрын
You know how it is: "You like big breasted women? You porn addicted pervert!" "What, you like small breasted women, too? You PDF!" ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Man, Gravity Rush deserved better. Kat keeps getting punished after breaking Playstation All Star's competitive scene sideways.
Hardly anyone takes gaming journalism seriously anymore. I hope to say the same about DEI consulting five years from now.
Before I even watch the video I gotta say I gave up on "GG2" the second I saw the same people involved with the first one being behind everything. It's simply just a lost cause. Those people are too entrenched in the industry and too wise on how to manipulate the public opinion that no matter what awful shit people say the public will be on their side. It's just not worth it. Also never forget Zoe Quinn drove a man to death in 2019.
@OfficialDJSoru
3 ай бұрын
And now same man's sister is running one of these ESG companies. Honestly I don't know how one would be so willing to work along with the people who drove their family member to suicide.
@GameBooAdvancePlus
3 ай бұрын
@@OfficialDJSoru given he took his own life, his sister likely gave him the same support the rest of his 'friends' did: that being scorn and rejection. Truly monsterous behavior.
@Harley_Mitchelly
3 ай бұрын
And then they win. Because you have accepted the change.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
@@GameBooAdvancePlus Greed trumps humanity in this people
@GodOfOrphans
3 ай бұрын
@OfficialDJSoru it's actually really easy to understand once you realize that genuine unrepentant and irredeemably evil people exist, once you've acknowledged that terrifying reality it's perfectly understandable.
Honestly this is a pretty good video. When it comes to TAL’s take on “it’s not political” it stems from two beliefs 1) the idea that none of the people who push the message actually believe it; they’re just grifters 2) That gamergate collapsed by people turning it into a political issue, in turn dividing the members on political lines, and people shouldn’t focus on things like “they put type a and type b body types in the game instead of male or female” With the first point, there are absolutely people who were just milking the situation for money: Anita Sarkeesian was 100% mostly doing it to advance her own career and for the cash (we can tell by how trans members of Feminist Frequency came out and said they weren’t paid.) However to say that EVERYONE who is affiliated with Sweet Baby Inc is a shill with zero earnestness in their beliefs is an impossibility. Alyssa Mercante, for example, does genuinely seem to unironically believe what she says. She outright says sexy video game characters should be “treated like strippers.” Coming out of anyone else’s mouth, it would’ve been called skeevy and perverted - especially since “stripperiffic” was used as a jab for female character designs back during the original GamerGate - but Alyssa IS (or was) a sex worker; she’d unironically believe it was a complement. The second point is somewhat true, and somewhat false. Yes, GamerGate did fall apart due to people’s politics not aligning but, as you pointed out, it was already a fairly political issue. It was the exacerbation of it and introducing other elements into it that killed it. GG2 already STARTED with all of the other elements in it, so people siding against Sweet Baby already know what they’re getting into. People who would’ve capitulated to Gamergate 1’s journalists don’t do so now because all the cards are shown. Also as a side point, TAL uses the fact that games like Saints Row 3/4 had the option to mash up male and female with different body types as evidence that “body type 1/2 was always here” when in reality there’s a major difference between how it used to be a source of humour rather than nowadays when it’s used for a weird political issue, as well as a major difference between the mindsets of the people who are implementing it now vs then. Keep in mind this isn’t me just hating on TAL; I really like the guy and his content. I just disagree with this take of his in particular. Edit: whoops I accidentally edited over Dmitri hearting the comment
@rb98769
3 ай бұрын
GG never had a chance to win because the ultimate conclusion to be drawn from it was that whoever gets to build the narrative in the end decides who is right and who is wrong, regardless of how much reason and evidence you bring to the table. This is what got so many people disillusioned in the first place. The difference today is that games journalism is undergoing a slow and agonizing death, and, as you mentioned, everyone is more aware of how intellectually dishonest these people are.
A lot of the old GG became complacent, saying how it's already over, or not to be a culture warrior. They don't want to fight since they already etched out their foothold. Much like how hacks like Arin Hanson saying racist jokes are the worst thing, while having done so, saying he's "grown up" while being extremely immature. They'll push up the ladder up so no one can follow.
They basically create a non-existent problem that only them have a solution. Great video.
@horusfalcon
3 ай бұрын
The mechanism here is well known, and derives from a perversion of the Hegelian Dialectic. _Problem:_ create a problem. _Reaction:_ wait for public outcry in reaction to the problem. _Solution:_ present a "solution" already prepared which will not solve the problem, but will, instead, make it worse, but which the people will now readily accept just to "do something about the problem".
You need to become THE culture instead of trying to keep alive a decaying corpse.
Very good and comprehensive video. It's a shame seeing all of the new big names of today fall for the same traps and pitfalls of 7 years ago.
I think one of the biggest things everyone could do right now is try and talk to people like the side scrollers podcast and rippa along with AZ and try and get them to understand their misconceptions hell I'd be pretty cool to see Dimitri on side scrollers
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
I hope they aren't touchy about the whole lolicon thing, especially since if memory serves me right (and I really, really hope it doesn't in this instance) Razorfist, who's good friends with both July and AZ and tends to be part of the same circles, has shown to be against lolicons in the past on twitter.
WOW The black Valkyrie and fat Thor in God of war makes sense now
@DesOttsel
3 ай бұрын
Nah, fat Thor is actually pretty accurate. He’s supposed to have a strongman build
@nicolasvenezuelaverde1184
3 ай бұрын
@@DesOttsel That may be but their extra touch proves they wouldn't oppose their virtue why oppose others?
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
@@nicolasvenezuelaverde1184 I don't think these people favor obese men as part of their DEI objectives, it's only when it's obese women. If anything, I've seen some of these same people shame men for being fat.
@hue1676
3 ай бұрын
@@DesOttsel Yes and that's the problem because they go for the strongmang "fat" thor build and say is accurate but then the Black Angrboda is defended with the "it's series were you kill gods and there is magical stuff" argument, so is a case of wanteing your cake and eating it too.
I wish i got paid to do nothing like Sweet Baby Inc and adjacent Studios
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
200k a year and could not figure how to google country flags, truly inspirational.
@l0sts0ul89
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe Living the dream man, living the dream.
18:00 Hilarious how you use that tweet as an example, because there are rumors that in season 2 of live action avatar Toph will not be blind specificly because they thought it was too offensive! It's perfect!
A better title for this would be "Optics" never Matter, only Rhetoric and action does.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
Might take this, couldn't decide what the | should be here.
That is true that you aren't going to win them over with factual arguments... However the factual arguments aren't really intended for them, they are to convince passersby. If someone who doesn't know anything about either side sees one person using facts and the other just cussing and calling them every insult they are most likely just going to see the insulting person as crazy and in the wrong. Will gamergate 2 fail? Maybe, but I'd argue we have a lot more advantages we didn't have back then... Over the past decade trust in the media had continued to decline the entire time, half the sites that were spreading lies back then are gone and you see Twitter's community notes feature shutting down lies constantly. I like our odds tbh
@computervision557
3 ай бұрын
The platforms we use to fight back, are belongs to the authority, it is just like the situation of 2077 mentioned
@snipermagoo
3 ай бұрын
My concern is that we don't seem to have a next step. The initial explosion has settled and now it's all going quiet.
@torrasque0151
3 ай бұрын
@@snipermagoo Yep. It's over. See you in another 10 years with GG3, even less consequential.
In my opinion I think the question of whether the movement is likely to "succeed" or "fail" is entirely based on what the win-con is defined as. If the goal is just to get woke stuff out of our hobbies then it's probably doing all right, the pendulum is swinging in that direction. But if the goal is to get quality products it's already showing that really isn't the case. We're seeing a ton of fairly mediocre products see massive monetary success for the primary reason being "they piss off woke people." I mean Hogwarts Legacy is explicitly woke but it was raised as a "victory" for "our side" just because some people don't like JK Rowling. If the mainstream news outlets screeched about Forspoken or Suicide Squad we'd be seeing people defending them as "our" games and saying that they were actually amazing.
Very thankful you blured Asmongold and put text over his face, no one should be forced to see his roach infested home.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
Just doing what I can to protect the people
An unexpected call out video, but a welcome one...
The reason I think gamergate 2 will fail is because most people don’t care about who makes the games. If people like how a games looks, they will play it anyways. For example, a lot of people highlight how Spider-Man 2 is woke, but it still has a lot of sales and a lot of popular KZreadrs were playing it. How do we make people more aware of the issues at hand?
New upload and I got the new SSJ3 goku unit. Life's good.
@sjonn2088
3 ай бұрын
New upload and I got shafted... but life's still good.
They censored Stellar Blade, we still have a long way to go.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
As I said in the video, trusting modern Sony is a losing game. SU made a deal with the devil
To fail it should've started more than on some small niche twitter circles.
It's a good thing that these people, much like cartoon villains, lay their plans bare for everyone to see because they're so arrogant that they assume there is nothing anybody can do at this point to stop them.
Sadly, I don't think culture can change back to the way it was before unless something happens to the money movers. I'm talking companies like Patreon, Paypal, banks etc who constantly update their policies in order to make it very hard for anyone to create their own stuff outside of approved circles. People say that if you don't like it, make your own. But you can't make your own and have it be profitable, because you can't move the money unless you adhere to the culture that made the thing bad in the first place.
This was a very well made video. I appreciate the lack of insane catastrophizing over the opposite side "wanting us dead" or something and the hopeful ending is nice. I always believed the sad truth is just there are a ton of people who have these weird political beliefs and will do anything to push it. The industry is full of them, but eventually it will stop and go back to normal. I just want passionate developers that make what they want, rather than what they feel they HAVE to make.
@carlosbatista6319
3 ай бұрын
Tony you're here!? What pleasant surprise.
This is why I like Indie Games more, they’re fun, some are experimental, and most are surprisingly more forward thinking than Sweet Baby.
How have people not learned yet that the right answer to being called racist/sexist is not "no, I'm not" but "how so?"?
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
And that is what I call sensitivity.
@vidmastereon
3 ай бұрын
No the correct answer is: "yes, and?"
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
@@vidmastereon Only if you actually are, in which case be prepared with receipts or they'll try to catch you lacking like the bloodsucking vultures they are.
@loliH9
3 ай бұрын
@@vidmastereon No, you idiot. They control the frame and what little "values" we have left in the West. You'd just be admitting to the accusation, which is all they care about.
I disagree and agree with a few things. I don't think GG 2 will fail and optics do matter. There are grifters you want to keep out, people who genuinely change their minds, but there also new normies looking in you want to convince. This is not a fight in a closed room, but a (inter)national televised boxing match. The obvious grifter like Matt walsh was immediately pushed back on heavily, maybe unlike Milo before. Chris was asked a few years ago on GG by a woke chatter, he still stands by that sjws were completely crazy. I don't think you say that if you didn't believe in GG at the time and keep videos up, but changed your mind a little bit. Matt Jarbo did the complete 180 it just blew up in his face. Fortunate for us the racism and sexism to paint your enemies as is becoming less and less effective that even normies, or regular creators not invested in the culture war, are increasingly not buying it. Plus there is evidence of harassment, racism and obvious lies from sbi and Kotaku writers. It's just true and dei is racist. The factual argument matters for them. You can't look as insane as your opponents. You can't blame them for trying to keep their ass clean. sbi detected is under the eye of woke sauron. any slip up and there is danger of them getting banned off steam, they don't want to give them an excuse. The fact that the division exclusion and inequality initiatives, or didn't earn it, create more controversy, even among those they claim to represent, is right on the money. and, that it's just only to make money also reeks of bullshit. I am an enlightened centrist though. Huge companies are made of people with many different motivations. There are also genuine believers who hire them for that reason. Not surprising as silicon valley is very very left wing. Game companies are not different. It's increasingly more difficult for those in charge to genuinely think that these dei initiatives result in more money as time goes on. activists wanting to grift of large companies can still make them genuine believers. There is nothing better than getting paid for the activism you believe in. 13:31 we also see how Esg goes for journalist outlets. They fired a lot of people or lost their company to be sold for scraps. I have a theory, we either see change within the year, or it will take 4 or 5 years when the investors come to back to check if they're on track of the 5 year plan for the company. we know where these ideas come from, have a name for it, their thought process, tactics, non existing principles, philosophical and psychological underpinning etc.
I've been saying optics dont matter. But no one listens.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
If you do not desire to win.
@JKLZREFAN
3 ай бұрын
You're completely right, and I been trying to tell people that bitter truth as well. Optics is larping, people would rather stay comfortable and play pretend they can fix things without actually doing anything no matter how many times they lose because of it. If your first priority is to please your enemy who wants you destroyed to earn the good boy points called "optics," you have already lost. There are "adults" and people who consider themselves "experts" in poltics that can't figure this out, lol.
We’re doing a sequel, that’s what we do in Hollywood, and everybody knows that the sequel’s never quite as good Reference aside, this time, we need to get direct with stopping these industry people, also the websites of these people going down by community notes and calling out misinformation is great to see, I feel this time, we will win, and win even better than before
Malicious investment companies, incompetent game publishers, and wolves in sheep's clothing posing as consultants on one side. And on the other side, opportunistic KZreadrs with comics to sell, ex-game devs sperging out about character outfits being altered slightly with some lace, and a dozen vets of GG1 repeating the same steps as before. And then there's everyone else in the crossfire. The only solution is for people to put their money where their mouths are and either (A) stop buying games form particular companies, or (B) learn to express opinions without defaulting to the popular buzzwords of the current zeitgeist. At least until option (C) can arrive, and someone properly competent can step up and produce games or entertainment, without any fear of blow black, that people will want to support.
@SolidStateSimulations
3 ай бұрын
Well said.
@celvinardenwu5382
3 ай бұрын
Yup, people always get mad when someone said they are trying to be neutral but the think is most of the majority of people are always ended up in the middle, life always have a balance you can't go to sad and go to happy, isn't this literally what all humanity have been dealing with? This is just the same shit with different colours all over again
Bad news: you can't win if there's no victory condition. Good news: you can't loose either.
It's a human right violation that we didn't get Gravity rush 3.😭Great video btw! Anyways lol, I always say this for representation in gaming, Good representation comes from the heart or passion of storytelling, and the desire for wanting to share the love of creating a fantasy world and it's characters, not from a DUI quota fill out sheet because corporate demanded so. The race, sex, or orientation of one's character does not determine if a game or a story will be good, passion does. With talent, ambition and passion, you can all create amazing works of art and media no matter what character is on screen. The power of passion and commitment can allow one's self infinite potentiality, something that corporate doesn't have.
@foisopracurtir6389
3 ай бұрын
Weren't Grummz and Kabrutus trying to say the same thing when this guy said they were trying to appeal to the other side? Why he hearted your comment?
Nothing but facts in this video. I just really disdain the fake inclusiveness they try to spew out.
Once a person denies reason and reality, convincing them is pointless because no matter how well thought out or reality based your argument is, it won't matter. The only thing you can do is stand up to their evil and make yourself heard to the people who aren't morally and intellectually bankrupt. Excellently framed.
Well done! It is really important that we be courageous and not allow tolerance to be our demise!
I think you're overlooking 2 things. 1.) Gamergate one calmed down cause they won. The journalists were both fined by the FTC and forced to update their older reviews and articles to admit to what they were accused of, and had their reputations destroyed in the gaming public eye. People outside of the gaming public would remain unaware of this but they didn't read or respect what gaming journalists had to say in the first place. 2.) Even normal non-gaming people are becoming increasingly negatively affected by woke DEI ESG stuff and pushing back against it too. We might not be united as a front with them cause they still don't care about games, but they still hate the ESG DEI too and are pushing back against them elsewhere.
Speaking of Gravity Rush, it's funny how instead of saving up for PlayStation's current-gen console, I'm exploring Japan Studios' past games on older hardware. Since modern PlayStation has nothing to offer me anymore, I'm forced to look to the past, getting a Vita and the handful of exclusives it still has, and even a PlayStation Move of all things. I'm not lying when I say I'm having more fun playing Ape Escape Move than I ever had with Horizon 1 or the recent God of War games. That's how low the bar is. Even the few games they put out that interest me even slightly, I can already buy on my more powerful PC, even via a second-hand key if I don't want any money to go to the publisher. All the PS5 currently has going for it is Astro's Playroom, Rise of the Ronin, and Stellar Blade, and those last two are likely timed-exclusives. All three could easily be ported to Steam, by the way. Astro would require dualsense, but it's a small price to pay when I can use that controller on other PC games.
@Coreagrus
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm much the same. Heck, the reason I even have a PS4 is Gravity Rush 2 and a PS5 - Returnal. I barely use the systems now. I guess that's its own topic: If modern consoles are worth a damn. I did also spend a lot of time with Japan Studio titles on past systems as well, which is why a part of me died when, iirc, Sony closed down Japan Studio.
@autobotstarscream765
3 ай бұрын
Stellar Blade *needs* to be freed from Soyny of Commiefornia, murderers of the Senran Kagura franchise, Microsoft needs to cancel their plans to jump on the woke train in solidarity with Soyny and remember what they are: the grown-up gamer brand, not a Sweet Baby box for babies! #SonyCheck #NoPlayStation6 #MakeXboxGreatAgain
It doesn't matter how many billions they spend, human behaviour will stay the same, people like beautiful things and that will never change.
@Noperare
3 ай бұрын
They know they can't change. We all know the emperor in naked, but if you say it out loud, you get arrested. The goal is to scare you compliance.
Your social-political analysis is excellent, your opinion is always pleasant to hear. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Greetings from Latin America.
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
Thank you!! I also love Dragonball
@elautoelectrico5957
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe XDDD
You should check out the NeverKnowsBest video on Gamergate 2. The worst video on this subject I've ever had to watch that I finally unsubscribed from him. Conflating independent youtubers talking about gamergate 2 and woke shit in games is apparently tantamount to (or even worse) than industry devs, game journalism webstes, and game community managers blasting their customers and hating them in public.
@acemori1789
3 ай бұрын
I've my own problems with NKB video, but I still his s good content creator. And was coming from the right place with his vid on SBI.
@FrostbiteDigital
3 ай бұрын
The comments section of that video is a Reddit-tier leftist minefield. Good lord, some of the takes they had is honestly head-banging-against-the-wall educing. I got into an argument over someone actually defending Zoe Quinn lol
@torrasque0151
3 ай бұрын
@@FrostbiteDigital There's people in THIS comment section defending Chelsea, I responded to one of them.
Elon buying twitter so people aren't scared of speaking their minds anymore and Pokemon GO turning into characters with paid outfits into genderless blobs are probably the two biggest reasons this pendulum swing might fully happen after all People being able to fight back on social media and women realizing that maybe intersectional feminism and what it spawned kinda ruined literally everything are two very important things in this fight
FINALLY!!! Someone else knows what happened to senran kagura
This is a great video! Keep doing this awesome research cause it really brings things together. Also, pointing out the effort Sucker Punch puts into everything they do is always appreciated!
It’s not fair, how is he cute AND insightful?! 😭 Content creator needs correction… 💢
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
HUH
@matsuringo24
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe😳
Lets see if the usual grifters (AKA Asmongold) actually end up responding to this
@kittenfan7664
3 ай бұрын
If Asmingold is a grifter, then that word means somethinc compleatly different.
Ironic that Stellar Blade turns out to be censored
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
As I said in my video, it's not wise to trust modern Sony. SU made a deal with the devil and they are paying for it, should have not been exclusive.
@genyatus
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe while an NDA is most likely in place, I hope they respond to the issue Bottom line, I hope they go "fuck it. We stick to gacha"
@TBODB
3 ай бұрын
@genyatus Shift Up is a lost cause. Ever since Destiny Child, they take pride in choosing the worst publisher for their product. That game died. Their current game Nikke is published by Level Infinite who is owned by Tencent who insisted on their AGGRESSIVELY horny game maintaining a Teen ESRB rating all while attempting to push $60 skins as the norm. Signing a deal with Sony when they're known to punch down on smaller studios and indies as a pastime, especially when you have even the smallest curve on a woman in your game, was asking for hate to be shot their way. Now they're going publicly traded and will probably be bought out or at least have their majority shares bought out by Sony or Tencent, it's only a matter or time for them to squander the platform they were given by their (not for long) target audience.
I've just begun mass downloading ROMs and fanscanlations of games and manga. If we ever get to a point where the "initiative I can't say or else KZread will take down my comment" effectively forces everyone on the right into poverty, I'll still have some entertainment to get me through the next few years of it. It starts with a B, ends with an E, and has a RIDG in the middle.
While I agree with most of it otherwise, the layoffs are largely not a strategic failure. Most studios make their money off the investment boom-and-bust cycle, not sales of games themselves. Layoffs are standard strategy for the bust phase.
Sorta related but my work has DEI with this month being autism acceptance month, and they list Satoshi Tajiri as a notable autistic person. The problem is that he isn't autistic or at least there's no concrete proof he is 😂
"Optics Matter" really just means "learn how to sell your message, and to who." That's honestly it. Obviously don't appeal to the other side (the people who hate you), but convincing some Joe Schmo, who probably hasn't even heard of all this stuff, can unfortunately turn them off if you go about informing them the wrong way
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
I just don't believe you need to "sell" your message to some random. The issues that have been creeted werent sold to "normal" people they were adopted by companies via pressure and incentivisied, the Pokemon Go example serves to show this as "normal" people are just if not more pissed about the changes. That's not me saying purposefully be idiotic, my main point is to focus on the real issues, as optics just don't matter no matter what, they will try to present your actions as unjust regardless to "normal" people so stand strong and focus on the issues.
@seg162
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe "Optics" aren't (or shouldn't be) to make yourself look better to the opposition, they're to make sure that their maligning of you isn't in any way accurate, to the extent that you care about. There's no benefit to this-- but there ARE costs to not being mindful of it.
Thank you so much, finally someone says it, this whole thing will go similarly as the last time and quite honestly I won't even bother this time. I assume you were also a witness of GG1 and how the /gg/'ers kept failing and failing again and again all because they were always aiming for "muh optics" and "muh moral high ground" when they should've just just listened and realize that this battle goes beyond the asinine insignificant stuff they complain about, it's about subversion, it's about population control and it's also about your enslavement to those who finance and run the system.
i think another factor that's different which is enabling this gamergate 2 (which is just the continuation of gamergate 1) to be in a stronger position than before is how much more ppl are online , savvy , and connected now , which takes away a lot of the need for ppl to seek out talking heads to rally behind to push populist momentum for these social culture war battles ppl now can just see the issues being presented by anyone and delineate for themselves what to think and do about it i didn't even know a month ago sargon went og and started uploading new vids , and after watching his first GG2 one i was a bit shocked to find i disagreed with most of it , and there were others who did as well
May be too early to call this, but I feel like calling this "Gamer Gate 2" is backfiring on the journo's that coined it. Supporting or being associated with the original used to be considered taboo, but the new one has only resurfaced the messed up situation that caused the first one.
Etics is important at this scale even if people want to focused on politics, ignoring them or only taking of them are a potential hassard thats why I like your content
Did the creators of spiderman 2 actually think they were being sneaky with that shit? The woke stuff was so on the nose it was painful. This was the only game I actually quit because of the woke stuff. It was just too much.
Hopefully the situation with localizers improves,after finding out about all the unnessisary changes made to japanese games and anime, questions like "what's been changed or censored this time" are always in the back of my mind. This still hasn't deterred me from tring to get into voice acting for anime, i just need to deal with my bad habit of putting things off for tomorror over and over again😅
All gamergate 2 is to me is a bunch of people angry at the mess they themselves started in the first place. They celebrated censorship when it happened to Japanese anime games they never cared for to begin with, then complained when their favorite games got censored and ruined. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't trust almost anyone partaking in gamergate 2.0. It's just people fighting the thing they started, because it doesn't benefit them anymore.
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
Funny how we've been saying for years that censorship is a slippery slop and nobody wanted to listen to us when the focus of censorship was japanese media with cute girls. They deluded themselves into thinking censorship wasn't gonna come after stuff they actually care about if they let it thrive.
@Take22952
3 ай бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724Censorship affects all pieces of fiction. To let it happen to something small is saying that it’s okay to let it happen to any piece of fiction. If I can give my personal thoughts on gamergate 2 and sweet baby inc, I think both groups can swim to an island and fight each other. They’re both the same to me.
22:49 Even as someone who still thinks about Senran Kagura often I completely forgot about 7EVEN holy shit
I think it's just really difficult to argue and persuade "normal" people, they have no notion of logical fallacies, much like babies with no object permeance, they literally operate on a whole different level, a lower one unfortunately... They start yapping about the lace on her chest or the hard r graffiti, ignoring the bigger picture of mass censorship across character design, environment, gore, language, story, what have you... They are the people they hate the most, and there's irony lost on people who parade diversity, inclusion and love, doing the exact opposite not because of any real morality or sense, but the lack of it, the only principles they have are the ones given to them by faceless soulless aging corpses wearing suits in a boardroom. Honestly, you could broaden this topic and pin down the EXACT kind of person/demographic who parades these agendas, but the conversation will become a little too heated so let's leave it at that...
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
I don't think "normal" people are even really a factor, a lot of what you just listed doesn't come from your average consumer but your typical twitter activist. The Pokemon Go example serves to show that "the average consumer" is more often then not, uninterested in these changes as well. Being the louder voice is ultimately what's important I think, even if it's a bit messy and indelicate.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe and getting inside companies as cm's, translators, and such
@chelsthegameruiner8669
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroeI personally didn't care about the minor changes in Stellar Blade (the Bunny Outfit has a bra in the Western version instead of just nothing), though most people were only interested in thirsting over Eve rather than the actual gameplay from what I've seen. I did mention how annoying it is that those who were cheering for the game's success have now turned against it because of the minor changes on another channel, I've probably been called a snowflake by now for using common sense. If a game is good, I'll buy it. FFXIV is one of my most played games on console because the story hasn't disappointed me yet. I typically avoid politics because I've come to learn that no matter what side you're on, it'll eventually rot your brain. I'm honestly curious how we've reached this divisive point now, I was around after 9/11 so today's climate is a massive culture shock to someone like me
@willmaud2359
3 ай бұрын
@@chelsthegameruiner8669 The Stellar Blade point is moot cause it being a PS exclusive is bad enough. Playing it already meant enabling the devil.
Youre my favorite femboy
@DimitriMonroe
3 ай бұрын
I'm 25 bro I'm already a Christmas cake I'm sorry....
@backupschmliff1156
3 ай бұрын
@@DimitriMonroe I've played P5. Trust me, that's the best part.
As to your last point, I think you are correct voting with your wallet isn't enough, and its also not enough to make our voices heard, we need to get people in and outside the industry. Focusing on anti-Grift/pro-fan and anti-Censorship/pro-creative freedom.
Does anyone know that time people were dicks to the people who die in a fire in the studio just because they made miss kobayashi's dragon maid ?
@inendlesspain4724
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, now a good chunk of them are running every major entertainment industry in the west, ruining not only western legacy media but localizations of asian media and, in some cases, even asian media itself from the very root. Yet another example of why you shouldn't care about optics; if these people with such horrible public views made it that far, then clearly optics don't matter, and if they do and said horrible views is what they won over the normies with, then I don't want to win over the normies.