"If the US saw what the US is doing in the US, US would invade the US " 🤣🤣🤣🤣......debate over !!.....

@kub1353

3 жыл бұрын

hahah

@chocotaco1225

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao!! hahaha

@Star_Gaze_2015

3 жыл бұрын

Score mark

@boompbeep5944

3 жыл бұрын

And I oop!

@aliyanmughal6988

3 жыл бұрын

lmao facts

She mentioned fair maternity leave as a pro on the American side and I about spit out my tea. The maternity leave is a joke unless you are upper-middle class and above. I had my child via emergency c-section and was forced to go back to work 2 weeks later or loose my job. So don’t spout fair maternity leave as a pro here in the USA. There are many, many people here that *DON’T* get fair or even *reasonable* maternity leave.

@oaklandblocks

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Federal level laws give you 6 weeks and 8 weeks if you have a c-section

@ggurwlcom420

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. There's a lot of push by the left to fix a lot of living wage problems in US but dumb republican think they want a communism without realizing that these problem are their mutual interest.

@alyare

3 жыл бұрын

@@oaklandblocks Federally the country is only interested in the lower and middle class when it comes to election time. Then, it’s almost like voting for who looks best while lying straight to your face. As far as maternity leave, I received *no* federal protection in the least.

@alyare

3 жыл бұрын

@@ggurwlcom420 China’s government works for China. Just like I think most would say the US government works for the US. I think there are great things about each country and government, but I certainly won’t sugar coat our shortcomings or start pointing fingers at other countries to deflect attention as many tend to do (I’m in no way talking about you of course, just mentioning it in general). The government has been talking for years about many changes that seem to *never* go anywhere. Why? Well, it’s simple to explain here in the US with one single word...politics. In the end, it’s the little guy, the *people* that continue to pay the price.

@_seola_

3 жыл бұрын

@@alyare I totally agree with you, I'll add another word, corporations, nowadays, it doesn't matter who r elected, most of them are bought by big corporations except for just few, but as minority in the US, what can u do? nothing, probably just go with the flow.

That blonde lady just shows how little the 'woke' youth know about the stuff they're preaching

@winchesterlyon

3 жыл бұрын

She failed miserably trying to create strawmen to use as her attack point. Then she used a strawman to suggest that the argument of China having better human rights mean China is perfect which was never a part of anyone's argument.

@andrewdoesyt7787

3 жыл бұрын

It’s all scripted you know? It literally says it’s funded by the Chinese government.

@winchesterlyon

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewdoesyt7787 CGTN is funded by the Chinese, but the assumption that it is "scripted" because of that, you really need to present more proof. Also, one side presented arguments based on US/NED/CIA-funded propaganda. Were their parts scripted too?

@andrewdoesyt7787

3 жыл бұрын

@@winchesterlyon Well one big give-away, is the fact that the people who were debating couldn’t remember a single word they they “wrote”, they were reading it word for word what they wrote on the script for like half the time. Even without reading the page, they sounded like they didn’t care and they were told what to say, because if you came up with it, you would talk with more naturally, not as shown in the video. One of the women kept stuttering on the worlds and using a new one that she was told to say, instead of moving on.

@winchesterlyon

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewdoesyt7787 This actually happens in almost all debates. This is especially true when the participants are not professional debaters.

US doesn't think everyone's human, so , actually, comparing apples and oranges here.

@q.t.gamingfamily

3 жыл бұрын

That's sad but true AND it's in our constitution even today.

The U.S human rights is definitely hypocritical ..as far as the debate the Chinese were more factual in their response.

Talking about genocide, USA should put its hand on its heart and reflect on the tragic history of its indigenous people and Africans.

@chromecobalt

3 жыл бұрын

Well, China should put its hand on its heart and reflect on the tragic deaths during the cultural revolution.

@jacob5061

3 жыл бұрын

@@chromecobalt of course they were tragic. Those actions were not taken to specifically harm people though. It's a shame that it did and was definitely a huge mistake.

@choegyal100

3 жыл бұрын

Any numbers on how many western colonialism has killed and destroyed thousands year old culture heritages in China ?

@chromecobalt

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacob5061 You are wrong. In the beginning the killings were so brutal that Zhou Enlai begged Mao to stop. Even in later stages it happened because the 'leader' was stupid. Unintentional, maybe, but it is a crime to be stupid. Zhou Enlai said in his deathbed that he regrets ever partnering up with mao because the chinese people suffered so much.

@sabrepulse817

3 жыл бұрын

Again? What about 1989 massacre Tiananmen? What about half population of China being killed civil war?

When the Chinese team debates you in your language, and you couldn't speak a word in Chinese. Rest assured they know you much better than you know them. This debate is over before it even starts.

@tubbytuber

3 жыл бұрын

Huh? US is one of the most bilingual countries in the world, and Europe even more so. Most in China speak one language. This was hardly a representative group.

@tubbytuber

3 жыл бұрын

Google it. A higher percentage of people in US speak a Chinese language than the percentage of people in China who speak English. So the debate is hardly over yet ;)

@feizai245

3 жыл бұрын

@@tubbytuber How many Chinese speaking Americans ( Chinese immigrants) has nothing to do with the fact the Chinese in this video were debating Americans in English.

@tubbytuber

3 жыл бұрын

@@feizai245 I just don't see why that is a big deal. You know, Americans also take Chinese language classes at colleges and universities here too. Not everyone but certainly tens of thousands. And many more learn other languages. It's not special.

@cialcollins5283

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you’re right... The debate ended before it even started cuz this news network is state owned....

Imagine something like this happening on US media where the opposing side defends China or Russia lol

@ericliu5491

2 жыл бұрын

I think that just mentioning that idea if you were a US politician would get the FBI knocking on your door.

@TitoTimTravels

Жыл бұрын

They did shows like this in the US, back in the 1950s. No way they would do it now.

@aoeu256

Жыл бұрын

Does defending the US mean defending the interests of the middle class, or of the top 1%?

@st.altair4936

4 ай бұрын

​@@aoeu256There is no "middle class" in reality. There is only the working class, who materially improve or produce things, and the capitalist class who control the means of production and the vast amounts of property that workers use to produce, yet the capitalist class controls the profits of. Some working class people being a bit richer doesn't change that. It doesn't even _compare_ to the capitalist class. *8* capitalists currently hold more wealth than the bottom 50% of the global population; *4 billion people* So given that the US, and most of the world, is currently under capitalist dictatorships (an electoral circus every few years where the choices can never be much different doesn't change that), defending the US means defending its ruling class who control all its policies.

Free Julian Assange and pardon Snowden before talking about Human Right.

@user-kr5jl4ug9q

3 жыл бұрын

This does seem like a form of tu quoque fallacy. Even if the west has got human rights abuses, this does not mean that people should not be allowed to talk about them and human rights abuses in China. Both are bad.

@madmanjshum

3 жыл бұрын

Hear hear.

@user-kr5jl4ug9q

3 жыл бұрын

@Don Drumpf In my opinion it was China that declined in human rights. They strengthened the censorship of the internet, started to blast propaganda more and started to persecute more people. And for racism in China, Chinese seem to be much more hostile than people in the US. They hate the west and the westerners with a burning passion. The unhealthy nationalism in China still increases. It won't last long until they start to dehumanize others. How can you solve problems if there is no criticism and no ability to understand other people? The way China silences criticism is counterproductive. If there won't be major problems, there will be many minor problems. But there are both. In US at least for now there is an option to discuss freely about problems. Racism in the US has got different causes than this one in China and they need to be addressed differently. The poverty, they did eliminate it. However, the definition of poverty in China is different than in other places. Being poor and rich is a relative concept. People not classified as poor in China may be classified as poor somewhere else. Crime in China has always been low, so it is not a problem. If you think that only criminals have got something to hide, other people do not, in a point when you can wrongly accused of being criminal or someone publishes information you don't want to appear, you can't have got nothing to hide. You can always trust that it won't happen, but the best thing to do is to prevent it from happening. There is no point in surveillance.

@joo3225

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-kr5jl4ug9q pls dont be ignorant, Where u heard the news of human right abuses done by China? Western media right...

@joo3225

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-kr5jl4ug9q CHECK KZread CHANNEL REAL XINJIANG! UIHGYUR,KAZAKH,HUI PEOPLE SUPPORT CHINA BECAUSE THEY DIDNT FIND ANY WRONG DOING DONE BY CHINA? GO CHECK IT!

I borrowed this from a Malaysian KZreadr’s comment (This message has been censored on KZread, I replaced some letters of the text with numbers to avoid the YT algorithm): I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous 'bl4ck-cat and wh1te-cat' story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per musl1m than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low d*rty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world. I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.

@user-zc8sq3wr9f

3 жыл бұрын

You’re probably Chinese

@bumihijau5670

3 жыл бұрын

a good insight indeed. Thank you

@thomasthomas6534

3 жыл бұрын

Spoken like a true China man! Propaganda to the max!

@yellowbeez93

3 жыл бұрын

Re-educate the uighur extremists before they turned into terrorists? In Singapore, we once faced a threat from certain Malay individuals who claims to be Muslims and we caught them but NOT EVEN ONCE did we label/generalize the Malays as "Malays extremists" or sent them to so called re-education camps to prevent them from being one. You think the Muslims here or any other countries don't speak against such violence? You say there's 39 000 mosques. Impressive. But if you know there are that many mosques, why don't you ask the Imams there to guide the Uighurs Muslims from being extremes?

@hydrakon8707

3 жыл бұрын

@@yellowbeez93 we dont send them to re education camps cause the number of them that exist in singapore is so little and they just go to jail

The US order the ICC investigate all incidents in all countries but never allowed to investigate its own wrong doings.

@winchesterlyon

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that. The US sanctioned the members of the ICC and revoke the visas of not only the ICC members but also all of their families.

@hyc1266

3 жыл бұрын

US does not have any "WRONG" doings. Every bombing, discrimination and etc. are justified by its own lies and standards.

@hassu2149

Жыл бұрын

Us documents and admits it's wrongdoing more than China does and that's a fact. There's a reason journalists can't enter Tibet and xianjang without permission.

US prioritizes money over human rights. Oh yeah, everyone has the right to do X in the US, provided they have the money! Regards from Austria.

@stopchinesecolonialism172

3 жыл бұрын

Here's 50 cents WUMAO.

@one_song369

2 жыл бұрын

Luckyly their currency is dying slowly for some time now and will be soon unimportant. Their currency is fake anyway

@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356

2 жыл бұрын

@@one_song369 because of China Joe

Maybe it would be more interesting to invite Julian Paul Assange and Edward Joseph Snowden to talk about freedom of speech as well as human right.

@benzi19951

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@lacylou3482

2 жыл бұрын

I think so too they spoke and the are now in prison

@drewski1441

2 жыл бұрын

I could only give you a single thumbs up.👍 Your comment deserves a thousand. The team supporting America has no idea about America and free speech. As you stated just ask Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden and Julianne Assang. As for human rights? The list of American atrocities is too much to list but they could start out with the Native Americans. 😐

@skaracaesar4789

Жыл бұрын

It's ironic Edward Snowden living seemingly well in Russia, a country being bashed by the US day in day out, whilst the journalist Julian Assange lingers in prison for publishing the truth.

@josephfigueira813

Жыл бұрын

☹☹🤔🤔👍

I have never been to Xinjiang or China in general. And I don't think any of the American/western politicians have been to Xinjiang either. So how can these people talk so confidently of the supposed human rights violations in Xinjiang when they've never been there? Another thing, as an American, it's hypocritical of me to criticize other governments because my governments rotten to the core. Also, it just doesn't add up. If there is a genocide going on in Xinjiang. It would be the first genocide where there hasn't been a refugee crisis. It would be the first time in modern history where satellite imagery has yet to capture mass graves, or executions, or anything that one would consider "genocidal". If your argument is that "cultural genocide" is happening. There are ten times more mosques in Xinjiang than the whole of the US. And the Uighur population is increasing. So what the West is saying just doesn't add up. Another thing is the US/Western government/media lies all the time. So how can I trust what they say?

@chongdi6140

3 жыл бұрын

There's no doubt that the US/Western governments/media lies all the time. Can only hope that the people at large have critical thinking and be as enlightened as you.

@samuelrowe1454

3 жыл бұрын

100 percent. What the West is saying doesn't add up. Also, the US lies all the time. Like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The US lies about other countries "human rights violations" and "threat to the world" all the time so they have an excuse to bully them. And the US's puppet allies always back them up.

@lijolalichan5450

3 жыл бұрын

an independent probe that proved the genocide, a 400 page leaked internal chinese document about illegal detaining and surveillance, satelite images, testimonies from hundreds of people, reports from over 50 independant global human rights activists.

@teckchuonting4582

3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍 How beautiful it is if the world will live in peace and harmony, nations focusing on what they can do for their own citizens

@lijolalichan5450

3 жыл бұрын

@Nage Please for some reason youtube keeps deleting my comment. you can search google by typing "400 page leaked xianjiang document" and see for yourself. its available in public domain and anyone can analyse it. if the leaders needs to sanction china they can only do it with concrete evidence, and this document is what broke the cpc.

When you come to US, you will find the human right is actually another word for Privilege of upper class.

@annilator3000

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@protogoniascension

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean. I can talk shit to my government without issue.

@spqr950

3 жыл бұрын

@@protogoniascension i have not seen any beggars in Nanjing since i was 16. However there are always beggars around my university in Florida, a qualified government should do something to help them. In china, government would send people to teach them simple techniques to make a life themselves, and apartments only provided to them with really low price. The US is a far more advanced country than china, they should provide everyone of you better life.

@rutrwer8220

3 жыл бұрын

@@spqr950 what about tibet?

@spqr950

3 жыл бұрын

@@rutrwer8220 what do you mean? I have never been to Tibet. I can talk about places I've been to.

This condescending attitude of the blonde lady this whole video is so bad and annoying this whole debate. When she comments on China educating more Xinjiang residents in Mandarin just because of oil. Xinjiang is a part of China and not a foreign country. With learning the language of the country in which a person resides more opportunities will naturally arise. This women makes no sense with her responses most of the time. From an American I also find their responses weak. If you live in the US as a low-income person which I am and the subject matter is where a lot of my research is based. Theory with people looking from the outside and reality of American freedom are two completely different things.

@benzi19951

2 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right. You can look at my comment posted which explained.

@geoeconomics5629

2 жыл бұрын

those who control EurAsia control the World - John halford mackinder

@user-bv1pz5yl5c

2 жыл бұрын

We have discovered a fact: The accusations made by America against other countries are often what they have done themselves. For example, the oil mentioned by this lady, and the Xinjiang blood cotton mentioned by the Americans.

@cassandram3048

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-bv1pz5yl5c You are not wrong on that. Definitely true. The US also likes to forget about it's current crimes against humanity that it was charged with from the UN. It is nearly impossible to find a single article on it and yet at the same times they are on this high horse trying to ruin every other country. The US just likes to be "on top" even though they fall behind in everything except military. They use the military to make of for their inadequacies everywhere else. Yes, I am and American for anyone asking but I'm not blind at what is wrong with my country.

can't believe they didn't bring up the fact that the land of the free leads the world in incarceration rate....like by a long shot too

@chromecobalt

3 жыл бұрын

can't believe they didn't bring up the fact that the middle kingdom leads the world in conviction rate.... Like by a long shot too.

@seanlee3863

3 жыл бұрын

@@chromecobalt nope the land of the free still champions that... www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/

@seanlee3863

3 жыл бұрын

@@briandavis849 yeah, still much better than putting them in the whitehouse and congress letting them run the country.

@seanlee3863

3 жыл бұрын

@@briandavis849 a group of mobsters that brought 850 million out of poverty, doesn't bomb other countries is far better than a group of mobsters that bombs brown people and puts a significant share of their own people in jail.

@guilmarperez4674

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanlee3863 great comeback!!!

China’s COVID response: No human right US’s COVID response: No human left

@telucylu9348

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment lmao

@es_akosua905

3 жыл бұрын

@@telucylu9348 🤣🤣😂😭

@drill6739

2 жыл бұрын

omg

@albback8176

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@littleboy437

2 жыл бұрын

😄😃😀🤣😂🙂🙃

If the press in the United States was truly free then you would not have all of the press on the left saying the exact same talking points for each news topic

@robert1200

2 жыл бұрын

Because they don't

i love how the opposition are all students against literal people who head their respective departments...how about you bring more established profs and lecturers from the west

@MissLynSanity

2 жыл бұрын

I was scanning the comments to see if anyone else noticed this! It really could have been an awesome debate if the sides were equally stacked.

@robert1200

2 жыл бұрын

@@MissLynSanity This is CGTN. CGTN exists to make China, a dictatorship, look good. It does not exist to have a fair debate.

@jonj4887

2 жыл бұрын

@@robert1200 you are right, same as BBC,CNN,FOX etc.😃

@robert1200

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonj4887 None of those are state media, they're privately run. So maybe you could say that about Voice of America, but america is a democracy so you can't really

@oiho8351

2 жыл бұрын

Even with profs and lecturer from the west. They will struggle against the proposition team. Opposition just don't have a CASE backed by enough FACTS.

24:24 To answer your question: USA is like a father who does not work, does not bring food to the table and tells his kids "if you are hungry, cry! I gave you the right to complain!" But China is like the father who worked hard and brings home food for his kids... Kids had nothing to complain.

@madmanjshum

3 жыл бұрын

Mate no argument there.

@saurabh1087

3 жыл бұрын

China is like the father who one day goes crazy and kills his wife and all his kids.

@chromecobalt

3 жыл бұрын

Sure, until his kids complain about something that father does down the line. Then they disappear.

@hellopeace5675

3 жыл бұрын

​@@saurabh1087 hahaha, you must so desperate to wish that come true, but it will never happen ..period.

@spectrallines1695

3 жыл бұрын

Too much compassion made America weak. Now everyone is a victim. But It certainly used to be strong.

That blonde woman was basically wobbling she showed her fully anti China self but she got absolutely destroying answers and she got roasted.

@human8454

3 жыл бұрын

🐷🤲

@won4151

3 жыл бұрын

@@human8454 😂😂😂 look at you

@MaxMustermann-hd4hj

3 жыл бұрын

@@won4151 leave 'em m8, they dont respect your religion so dont feel addressed when they try to insult

@frankwong1539

3 жыл бұрын

Of all her team the young man with glasses was the talking point the rest are no match for the China team.

@justsain3236

2 жыл бұрын

She is half asleep and gives me a, "I'm better than everyone else here" vibe. 😂😂

Wang Yuhang’s closings remarks makes me think that after his American education and return to Tsinghua University he never left the campus because he also has no idea what is happening in China.

Anil Rai, I totally agree, you have made a very strong point here, if China is not a place of freedom of speech, this debate wouldn’t be happening. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 good point n thank you for point it out.

@john1425

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah? I dare you to run a newspaper reporting on the genocide against Uighurs in china. Well see how much freedom you have in a concentration camp having your organs harvested and sold by the government.

@john1425

3 жыл бұрын

You know Chinese arent allowed to access KZread in China right?

@narmytanish9209

3 жыл бұрын

@@john1425 you do know that they have their own sns media right?? Or you think that all individual HAVE to use western medias leaving the people that can't speak english to forcefully learn it instead of peacefully use the application where you can use your own language. You can even download it, its called weibo Don't be ignorant first really learn how china works and what really happens and then talk.

@john1425

3 жыл бұрын

@@narmytanish9209 YOU DO KNOW its censored and people who say the wrong thing on it get put in concentration camps where they see tortured, sexually abused, and have their organs harvested right??? Why dont you educate me about the genocide against the Uighurs since your so informed and i have so much to learn? The CCP is the closest thing weve seen to nazi Germany since WW2 and its going to be a blight on the history of China just like the nazis are for germans.

@john1425

3 жыл бұрын

@@narmytanish9209 Try typing Tieneman Square into your Chinese KZread and see what happens.

Mass shootings and killings are the highest rights in the UasSA. Practised on a weekly basis.

@lillyrice2241

3 жыл бұрын

Seven mass shootings during the past seven days. Only the worst shootings are covered in national news.

@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863

3 жыл бұрын

oh yes definitely

@johnregis5320

3 жыл бұрын

Freedom to shoot

@TaTa-ce1kq

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnregis5320 indeed 💯% right. Live by the guns die by the guns.

Who laughed when they heard: "If the US saw what the US was doing to the US, The US would invade the US to liberate the US from the tyrany of the US." LMAO!

@cfos118

3 жыл бұрын

That is a massive slam dunk. Enoch is a beast!

@gregorymarshall9130

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: it was an American that said this, because America gives Americans the right to insult America all they want without getting arrested. Can't say the same about China.

@wongalex2089

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregorymarshall9130 fun fact: your statement is so true for white Americans.but If you were black, just skip getting arrested and go straight to being shot. Am I right? Can't say that about China.

@wongalex2089

3 жыл бұрын

@Ismael Barrera yes, but let's not get misdirected by the statistic you mentioned. The more important statistic would rather be how many blacks or whites were shot WITHOUT resisting to arrest, still SHOT or KILLED when already RESTRAINED. IGNORED when crying for their life while under arrest.... I don't have that statistic. But certainly leans black to me. Perhaps Americans already deem it to be statistically insignificant to have such statistics? Would love so see the numbers if it exists.

@cfos118

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregorymarshall9130 and that's the holy grail in human rights is IT? Teach your kids to insult and bad mouth...it is true that there is not 100% freedom of speech in China, that comes with responsibility. Thing is there is an endless list of things to indult America on so Americans need that right more than anyone. The right to live and not be attacked and assaulted and killed, bullied, discriminated against seems to be totally missing in America..

I've been a citizen of the United States my whole life and I think the Asian culture and what you have is correct I feel out of place where I have for a very long time since I could remember as a child I think that shelter food and own personal freedoms but the collective should always remain

I wish they would bring students from he USA, to debate instead of this staged debate. They would be crushed

@clementtan1981

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, let's do it in Chinese.

@hassu2149

Жыл бұрын

@@clementtan1981 got some questions/points for you if you're Chinese look at comment above

I'm an Indian and everyone here knows ...usa don't care about human rights or something like that..they are just taking this as an opportunity to say something bad about china on world stage...for usa it's not a fight about human rights it's about their world dominance,status or economy

@teckchuonting4582

3 жыл бұрын

You are spot on, sir.

@xbizwang

3 жыл бұрын

You are very True about Western Country👏👏👏

@shewagdhanush1391

3 жыл бұрын

But China is also starting bullying other countries 😑

@ben10sno1fan

3 жыл бұрын

@@shewagdhanush1391 well how many countries have bullied China?? HK, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Mongolia, India, Vietnam, and literal all western countries.

@GavIsHti

3 жыл бұрын

@@shewagdhanush1391 yup that's also true ..that's our matter with china...but we can't deny the fact that usa is also corrupt ...that's y india is friends with usa

You should get a bunch of American to argue for their country, that'll be a laugh.

@ck-bs2ms

3 жыл бұрын

American vs Chinese that will be a good fight

@Psionyc

3 жыл бұрын

Look up the lecture series on justice called "What Is The Right Thing To Do?" from Harvard

@joshianmeninzor7500

3 жыл бұрын

Would b nice

@ck-bs2ms

3 жыл бұрын

@Wood floor oh! Someone is affected 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ck-bs2ms

3 жыл бұрын

@Wood floor why do you have to repeat and repeat and repeat... Speechless?.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Great debate, and so much needed ... Keep this up world need more discussions like this on all sorts of issues. To bring nations brains and hearts closer together and teach them cooperate and not so much compete

We have to add the fact the Chinese were speaking a foreign language

@planbbkk5876

2 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha all of them aren't native speaker. Dumb!

The Proposition had argued better then the Opposition. The Opposition had a more difficult case to argue as they try to give an alternate facts like “self reflection”. Both side have done well. But it is clear that the Proposition team has won the debate as they have been more persuasive based on facts.

@frankwong1539

3 жыл бұрын

You are incorrect to say both sides have done well the team that protects American human rights failed miserably. That black woman who speaks with an accent couldn't be AA she talks all nonsense and painted a rosy picture of US human rights. The China team failed to correct her nonsense when she said the US had so many rights that even the Senate could impeach the President. Wrong! The house and the opposition impeach the President twice for his crime it was twice the Senate voted against it and set the President free. The Senate has the last call and was filled by Republicans devoted to Trump this has to change as whoever has the majority in the Senate wins.

@willemvanwijk382

3 жыл бұрын

One side: Lecturer, researcher, scholar, and president... other side: student, student, student and English debating society president (also a student)... 🤔

@frankiechia3446

3 жыл бұрын

When the opposition tries to cover up a major flaw in the US human right’s system with “self reflect”, it makes me wonder how many “self reflect” can US affort before their country turns to shit. Opposition: sorry to those 500k deaths, we’ll self reflect and bring back the people that trump fired from the pandemic response team setted up by Obama. We’ll self reflect about that fact that consuming sanitisers can fight covid. We’ll self reflect on blaming asians for covid and cause anti asian violence happening in US. We’ll self reflect on not resting our knees on people’s neck, more precisely black male. But hey, we used to have black president. 🤦‍♀️

@GeneralLiuofBoston1911

3 жыл бұрын

@@willemvanwijk382 One other thing to note: Everyone from this debate came from highly prestigious universities in China. Both Tsinghua and Peking Universities are part of the C9 League - the Chinese equivalent of American Ivy League, just to name the two most well known ones. And I did also notice another thing - both teams had members to be in the strength of that field such as the opposition having those in journalist and international fields.

@momodoukebbeh

Жыл бұрын

@@frankwong1539 I am a black man, a Gambian and African. I think the opposition side had a daunting task in defending US human rights. I think that black girl and the three others just had to take that part because they were asked to be in the opposition side. US human rights is a total failure considering the Red Indians genocide, slavery, suppression of the civil rights movement, Black Lives Matter, US support to the minority white racist apartheid regime of South Africa and the numerous unjustified wars fought all over the world by the US in the name of democracy. If I were in the opposition I would found it difficult to debate.

In the 4 minute speech, the US side was arguing from the statistics. However, I wonder those statistics are based on what? Based on which ideology? We often got in trap of using one side as standards but ignore the rest.

@janaangelicacatudan5114

2 жыл бұрын

Based on the situation you are in, be open to both idea, and use what is needed. Both has good points.

Thanks for CGTN not being biased on either side, every open-minded host as well. Both teams did a great job by not being irrational. I'm not from China nor the U.S., China won the debate in my opinion as they stated all the facts and truthful statements, the U.S. lost some points by not giving sufficient facts towards China (sometimes only pure propaganda). Besides, you can't have perfect problems solving processes and perfect outcomes. I watched a video of some Uighurs threaten to kill Han Chinese. (I'm assuming) China immediately placed them in a concentration centre. Not to kill them or torture them but to reeducate them, feed them, providing essentials needs on a daily basis and make sure the extreme thoughts are gone then Uighurs will be released. **Not a perfect solving process, but have good outcomes.** The west did was freedom first which led to thousands of people deaths and created hatred in the society. **good solving process for some people, but worse outcomes.** Freedom, it's a very abstract subject and answers are varied. There is no freedom without boundaries happened in the world, then we have to ask ourselves how many percents of freedom is freedom? 25% , 50% or 75%?

@garrycoleman8537

2 жыл бұрын

I would have liked to ask that American lady what about the human rights of Floyd when the white cop was squeezing the life out of him!!!!!!

@gs-nq6mw

Жыл бұрын

That's wrong,stop expecting for "unbiased" information,if you think something is unbiased is because you couldnt identify the bias wich doesnt decrease the value of this video

@yuniandryantassy4466

Жыл бұрын

@@gs-nq6mw 499

@benzi19951

Жыл бұрын

@Delfin Todcor First of all, there is no proof about your statements you said. Second, have you seen the video posted by small part extreme muslim uyghurs that treatened to kill Han Chinese before "re-education" hapenning? I've been to China's several muslim villages. Was so hard for me to seek for pork to eat, random walls have Al-Quran written, people wear hijab, Mosques more than you think. No one there desired to complain government. They just pure looking to earn money, have fun, raise kids. Definitely not like the west mindset, EVERYTHING is conspiracy.

@aoeu256

Жыл бұрын

I think Chinese hides their racism more so I am on US on that point.

Please more debates CGTN. This was great.

@level1selamat155

10 ай бұрын

Yearly event

Human rights should be about human needs not wants.

@blackiemwe1481

3 жыл бұрын

Well put

@teapotfroh5764

3 жыл бұрын

good point. However, it's still hard to define what human needs are. From my point of view, it is better that the UN sets the basic standards that should be obeyed by all its members and each society has the right to define the part beyond.

@Billck24

3 жыл бұрын

@@teapotfroh5764 don't think it can be universal especially different culture & religion. But food & safety should be common across.

@HDMoviesism

3 жыл бұрын

explain what you mean

@neweraboss5728

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Universal Education and Universal Income to sustain capitalism and live in a modern technological world.

I think both sides know that the USA is the loosing side when it comes to Human Rights !

@XDXD-uo6uq

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Meisner hi 💩

@jacquelinedunford9639

3 жыл бұрын

Moa killed millions of his own people, when he came to power.

@denisjdelgado9657

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacquelinedunford9639 Yes indeed, can you tell me which great country did not kill or did stupid things in the past.

@denisjdelgado9657

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacquelinedunford9639 The USA is still killing millions now !

@Bexxxyable

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacquelinedunford9639 death as a result of famine = killed? Nice logic. Compare that to the US's mass genocide of indigenous Native Americans and not to mention the millions killed in the middle east, vietnam war, Korean war etc.

End disputes, work for betterment with a larger vision, so that the future may remember us. My dear fellow Humans🙏🏼

Thank you for providing this debate. Very good insight. 👍

The debate of two different idea taking place in a very civilized way is enough for me to say china is way better when it comes to freedom of speech.

@GavIsHti

3 жыл бұрын

Arrey chacha jhuth toh kam bollo development ki baat ki hoti toh samajh aata ..freedom of speach sach main??

@chromecobalt

3 жыл бұрын

Excuse me? I can't even say anything about on that cannot be named and Im not even from China.

@iberico8174

3 жыл бұрын

@@chromecobalt You just exposed yourself, judging China from a moral position while you are not even from China. First is knowing and learning, then criticize.

@silvermagno12345

3 жыл бұрын

​@@iberico8174 I don't see you have lived in China long enough either to criticize someone else. Especially if Anil has lived so long there. Freedom of Speech he says, you say ?? LOL That's why people can't say whatever they want against their government, otherwise you disappear. In the USA people can say and protest anytime, anywhere. This FREEDOM of speech ONLY happens in the DEMOCRATIC countries. Learn the differences, please.

@amossutandi

3 жыл бұрын

@Narglar Wing no, american universities are safe spaces for politically correct thought. like anerican social media. if you deviate too much from politically correct thought, you get warned, banned or deplatformed.

Let’s debate human rights in Iraq and the US. US: Never mind, we’ve beaten up Iraq because they had weapon of massive destruction (don’t ask me where it is), and they had no human rights by the way.

@tkw3864

3 жыл бұрын

Giang Truong + 1

@tkw3864

3 жыл бұрын

Christopher Meisner is the angry loser here. Scram!!

@owningkoning

3 жыл бұрын

Pff lol you clearly dont know the brutality of saddams reign in Iraq , and how he started invading the surrounding areas , Iran, kuweit , the next on the list was Saudi-Arabia and that very country is the reason USA invaded Iraq because if Iraq managed to hold kuweit and Saudi-Arabia iraq would hold almost the entire oil trade . Thus usa joined the war if they didnt saddam would have went for the arabian penninsula , and once that happend it would become very hard to take military action thats why they mobelized troops to saudie arabia

@tkw3864

3 жыл бұрын

Erik Antonis War among Middle East countries --- whoever wins, oil stays with the Middle East. The US and European went in to 'help', beat Iraq, installed democracy --- US and Europe control the oil. Future history will say: the Christians beat the Muslims in the Middle East.

@owningkoning

3 жыл бұрын

@@tkw3864 im sorry but im missing your point , it appears you just try to write a fancy piece of text without an actual depht

Correction: China lifted 850 million out of poverty per World Bank.

This is a poorly constructed debate, most probably done purposely to highlight the merits of the Chinese interpretation of human rights. Though it is not without its merits, and though it is true the US suffers from atrocious issues of human rights and inequalities within its borders, the defining difference is that the US publicly takes accountability for these issues, and makes the necessary change in course to rectify the issues, (however effective remains to be seen). When human rights issues arise in China, the typical approach is to censor it, deny it, erase from history. For an autocratic ruler cannot be seen to make apologies, be remorseful, make mistakes for it would be seen as weak. Ironically that is the weakness of such a system. And if this is not a moral issue, but rather a practical issue, as debators of the proponent argues, then the practical matter is that this approach will overtime lead to an weak society as select oppressed groups are stomped out and resentment builds among citizens for the lack of government accountability. Moreover, it creates a system where people are afraid to apologize and course correct for fear of appearing weak. Let us see how long this comment stays up for, as it is a China-controlled channel.

I like the arguments presented by Zoon Ahmed Khan, the Pakistan girl in the proposition team. And also Enoch Wong’s delivery.

@loots0533

3 жыл бұрын

But she somewhat contradicts her own argument. She starts off by American human rights record is poor because they start they kill terrorists in her own country and that accidentally innocent people are killed. Then later she defends the re-education camps in Xinjiang saying that the stop terrorism in China. But exactly on that point she doesn’t say what China has done to stop terrorism that is exported from her country, Afghanistan and other countries across the world. Enoch Wong arguments is also flawed by the opposition team is poorly chosen and highly debatable when in fact they have lived in democratic nations. A large part of Enoch argument is that human rights start with being able to feed yourself or have shelter. This is off course a very low bar because you get all of this if you go to jail. But if the both the proposition or opposition team understand western values they would realize that given a choice, people would rather starve and have no home than to be a slave or be in jail. Enoch also doesn’t talk as too how many people willingly left the rural areas to live near the cities. Or also how many of them are separated from their families as a result. I think the biggest question is whether those people, if they had a choice, would prefer to go back to their rural homeland. As you well know, when a piece of land has been handed down to you for generations then it comes with great responsibility. It’s very difficult for me to imagine these people willingly gave up land that their ancestors looked after for generations.

@zhidom8099

3 жыл бұрын

@@loots0533 wow your so off. First she defends the re-education camps in Xinjiang saying that to stop terrorism in China. Now you got to know china capture suspicious people they are in the terrorism which is mostly male. First your house and family aren't being bombed. 2nd after you done being re-educated without those extremes terrorism mindset,they can be graduated and later to become a teacher, resturant worker,etc basically a second chance. That is what I call as human right instead airstrike boom boom child without parent , no shelter and food. They is by far much more humane way to deal with terrioism. Of course u can think bomb them is better choice whatever. And even if the re-education camp has deaths, of course it has, especially those with an extreme terrorist mindset with no cure will be put in death. But now you compare the death numbers of both sides. China's method has much much much less death than airstrikes. Now dealing with those extreme issues like a person in jail for looting or killing, you gotta know that's also limits the prisoners freedom like staying in jail as in camps. But China is much more humane overall. So America shouldn't even have the audacity to point that china’s nose about human rights. Now on the second part you probably don't hear that he said it's an option for them to leave their poor side area or not. The communtist party of China is NOT there to BEG you to please move into an area close to the city or not. Its fucking hilarious you even said that out. For example a 8 -12year old has an opportunity to be in the city or closer to have better living conditions or education. Now let me tell you that it's almost 9999.9% chance grandparent/parent will want their grandson or sons to have better living conditions. And that doesn't mean that kids or family are banned from traveling back. You can visit them anytime however you want to. I mean it's common sense. That is why you see a poor rural area where there are barely any young people, much of them are old. A grandma that lived in that place for 70 years can of course stay in the rural area. And their grandson or son can go back and visit them like new year,birthday,etc. HOWEVER they want.

@Taensheara

3 жыл бұрын

Yes because u r Chinese lol

@lorency7183

2 жыл бұрын

I have a problem with you NAR I wrote to TREC 2019 my name Loren Yera in Houston Texas you have false accused me I understand your a big lobbyist group in Washington but am pissed my right and constitution and civil rights have violated by 25 American government agencies. I challenge you to discredit what saying . My life has alter from minute I filed a complaint TREC Houston

The “self reflection” has been the typical response from the the USA as a feel good response to criticism. However, in reality they have in recent years (especially the Trump administration) have deflected rather than self reflection.

@Vienum

3 жыл бұрын

It all depend on the Administration. Take for example Obama handle the Swine Flu and Ebola much better and created a pandemic crisis guideline for future outbreak. Where the Trump Administration disregard the pandemic crisis guideline from the previous Administration and didn't follow any CDC suggestion. And handle the COVID-19 even worst. Which killed over 500k+ US citizens.

@tanzine91

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vienum I think in the context of foreign policy instead of domestic one, USA never reflected but instead never shy from violating and showing aggression

@fannybirot2362

2 жыл бұрын

And Biden administration is only worse on self reflection!

I'm glad CGTN is allowing people to debate this. I haven't found any debates like this on Western media.

@lawrencemorris2261

8 ай бұрын

Not enough people acknowledge this.

Black lady at opposition: brought Hongkong in the topic... Pakistani lady: *trap card activated* Opposition found naked 😆

@stealthattack2209

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

It should be noted that if NATO member countries genuinely seek to institutionalize human rights in Afghanistan and Iraqis, they have to facilitate probing war crimes in the country by the ICC. Further, the rights and dignity of Afghan and Iraqi civilians should no more be violated under the term "war on terror”

There's exactly an African promoting a European ideology of democracy, but she can't point to one single African country that is prosperous under democracy. #ados

@loots0533

3 жыл бұрын

Botswana

@kurikoweiber5926

3 жыл бұрын

Lol that really includes south america, and most of asian countries

@clovemartin

3 жыл бұрын

What an idiotic thing to say considering Africa is famous for being full of dictators.

@gregorymarshall9130

3 жыл бұрын

That's extremely dumb to say, given that Africa has been a haven for murderous dictators. Idi Amin, Sani Abacha, Mugabe, Biya, Charles Taylor, Siad Barre, Sekou Tourre. None of these people ruled in a democracy.

@eugenechin2863

3 жыл бұрын

@@clovemartin Dictators put there by US regime change..lol

I literally choked when that man says "oh wait a minute it isn't". I was expecting a super.... idk how to explain but that's just hilarious.

It's funny how a country without freedom of speech is debating, and what's more shocking is the ignorance from the other side.

It is true that whatever policy makes, it is about who can deliver...

@nobodyli6543

3 жыл бұрын

@@adeolaoluokun1601 look at the death toll in the west, tell me what cost you for so call human right?

@Kyle_lofc

3 жыл бұрын

@@nobodyli6543 rather die with freedom than live with little freedom

@sword7872

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kyle_lofc you don't live unless you have financial freedom. Those with high debt and high costs of living don't have freedom even if they live in the west.

@sword7872

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kyle_lofc tell Julian Assange, lost his freedom for exposing the truth

@Kyle_lofc

3 жыл бұрын

@@sword7872 wouldn’t the same apply to Chinese citizens? When it comes to their need for financial freedom to live. Still need money in their society don’t you? I’m genuinely asking here, not trying to trap ya

This is from a Malaysian KZreadr’s comment: I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French, with supports from the US and Russia from behind, started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance(Japan, Russia, Britain, France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world.

@pattonisgod26

3 жыл бұрын

Bravo! This is fantastic! Nailed it on every point! 👏👏

@jeremiahlim2925

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Meisner Jesus rejects Europeans in bible. The Jews asked Jesus whether they should pay taxes to Caesar? Jesus looked at the coin and asked "whose face is on the coin, they answered,...Caesar. " Jesus replied "Render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar". Using Jesus doctine, everything that has China Sea in the map belongs to Xi (Caesar).

@DunmerSG

3 жыл бұрын

This was very good.

@owen7570

3 жыл бұрын

U know the history well, should post more such historical facts more, let all younger generations know the truth

@KatariaGujjar

3 жыл бұрын

The West is more or less ruled by a single group of thugs who have been gaining ground since the middle ages.

The most important aspect of democracy inorder for it to work is that people need to have critical thinking. But it is what most people in USA and Canada and most of the western countries lack in 2021.

How difficult it was for those four brilliant young adults to defend the US on the subject of human rights.

@rap3208

2 жыл бұрын

very difficult because the other side came prepared and everything they said was true - they really can't defend the US on the subject of human rights. Maybe they went there expecting to just say China does not respect human rights and everybody will agree. All they had going was the whole world was conditioned by the US and its media by decades of anti-China propaganda that China is the king of human rights violation. But if you really break it down and analize human rights US vs China point by point, the US comes out the loser.

Respect China..from Thailand👍😍

@johnd87

2 жыл бұрын

Or else....

"Oh Liberty, what crimes are committed in thy name!" -Madame Marie Jeanne Roland

@jackliu5690

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Meisner when pointing a finger at others, bare in mind the other four point at yourself.

@jackliu5690

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Meisner enjoy while it last, your unspoken privileges that is young man, the world will be your oyster no more.

@jackliu5690

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Meisner good talk , stay safe, wear ur mask.

Im from Chicago. My parents are former immigrants so I have the physical characteristics of an indigenous person. What the Chinese said rocked my soul. All my life I’ve faced institutionalized discrimination in school, work, in life overall. I have suffered so much bullying and manipulation. I want to escape the United States. I have no purpose here. My life sucks. Oh well. This is the deck of cards life gave me…

@user-fc1hl4tq9v

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those so called canada's indigenous people looked like Eskimos (mongolian stock), means chinese hans, japanese,koreans,tibetan,burmese etc. are your people from Asia.

@elvinccw

Жыл бұрын

No like for this comment, again the dirty tactic by the youtube

How about including South-America, Africa, and Europe next time, make the debate teams more equal (in regards to their education level), and discuss how we can join forces to assist communities in need 😮

😂 that blond girl looked wise but when choose to start her debate with corruption i just lost it.

@dchacha4

3 жыл бұрын

You know what, I believe the US did not have reality examples but more academic theories hehehe

@amossutandi

3 жыл бұрын

she was excellent in role playing; the arrogant way of presenting factless talking points as if they're pearls of wisdom.

@xwah5016

3 жыл бұрын

She was playing a role lolll. She delivered it well

@dchacha4

3 жыл бұрын

@@xwah5016 guy she is a Russian or close, she never wanted to push the questions against human right hard. I get her, and damn she seems like a boring person saying great job to the Chinese side lol. I am still laughing. I want more of such debates

@frankwong1539

3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry, but your assessment of people is poor on the contrary she looks dumb as in her response. My opinion is victory on China's team and I think you also arrived at the same conclusion.

Veronica's going to move to america for a little while and have her position changed by the realities of america

@zhizheng9276

3 жыл бұрын

She said those just because she was taking the opposition side

@Juninzone

3 жыл бұрын

When she's met with Police brutality in America she's gonna learn quick.

This turns into a personal and national attack instead of a proper debate. What a shame.

What's amazing is CGTN having this debate, and I initially thought this would be biased and soft towards China but no, it was actually quite fair and had really great moments of arguements. Now imagine if CNN, MSNBC or FOX would ever invite a group of debaters from China, not some Chinese Americans, a group from China itself to go over and debate them on live TV. NEVER!! hahahaha

The only right i need is the right to have affordable housing, affordable healthcare, quality education and quality public transportation. I wonder who would win this.

@kub1353

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Everything else, I'll pay those businesses to enjoy for leisure.

@alexanderaddaiboateng169

3 жыл бұрын

@@kub1353 it's obvious China wins in these regard US is a profit based economy, China's affordable and May rank no. 1 among the developed countries

@blacktrufflesalami7821

Жыл бұрын

The clear winner is obviously China, that's a no brainer.

@hassu2149

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderaddaiboateng169 huh? Look up Chinese homelessness rate. Look up what "bringing them out of poverty" means in the words of the world bank. Bringing 800million above $1.90/day (which is now $5.50 since 800million started 40years ago) is not as impressive as you think.

The winners are the proposition. The opposition side arguments are full of opinion without factual basis and they seems to have nothing much to argue. I've many points to argue them as well.

@benb5891

3 жыл бұрын

yup they don’t have fact they got their emotion and feeling by brian wash,what is and coming forming the media.considering the fact that china and the rest of the world have been bomb suppression slavery rss stolen for decades after decades.with all the taking advantage of and yet that manage to survive overcame and almost to catch up.only way USA is staying ahead of others is by bombing them.can you imagine if the world never got bomb like vietnamese korean laos china..like not been colonized wars if white or Spain never set foot on these country like war..each part or continent USA OR western enter chaos and wars pursue..this is not accusations but is facts...can you imagine if USA freeze and Westerner at pause and give the rest of the world 50-75 years moments and head start how advanced would the rest will catch up if not already surpass usa way far ahead!! that’s what USA and it western partner down to other by putting then at pause kinda way..bomb sanctions incite chaos infiltrated and divide party of other nations.anyway i’m off subject.

@willemvanwijk382

3 жыл бұрын

One side: Lecturer, researcher, scholar, and president... other: student, student, student and debate team president (also a student)... 🤔

@user-bv1pz5yl5c

2 жыл бұрын

@@willemvanwijk382 Where did you get this information?

Common sense You guys miss the good points China doesn't have freedom of speech. And lots of prisoners of politicians in jail Please!!🙏❤

As an American, the Chinese won the debate. Our university had lost it way and these Americans foreign policy students have lost touch with the majority Americans, these students only apply what they’re learn in class but never have experiences and interact with real Americans especially on the street these students would be afraid to come down and see what’s going on in the street of America, while China welling to go on the street and talk to all class/society of peoples.

This debate is a bit too amateurish. I'd like to see Einar Tangen and Kishore Mahbubani face off against Mike Pompeo and Tom Cotton and watch them crush the Americans in a proper debate.

@brewskimckilgore6796

3 жыл бұрын

death 2 amerika!!! (on the debate stage)

@KatariaGujjar

3 жыл бұрын

How about Noam Chomsky versus all presidents of past 60 years?

@Ice-Black-Coffee

2 жыл бұрын

Why dont you wish S. Hussein dabte G. Bush?

The Pakistani lady is beautiful and smart at the same time.

@pohchooguan2977

3 жыл бұрын

Why she Run away from her country

@fangshuma8969

3 жыл бұрын

@@pohchooguan2977 She is an international student. Did you watch the debate?

@RhyliezthUniverse

3 жыл бұрын

@@pohchooguan2977 why your brain rans away of you?

@jarazy1232

3 жыл бұрын

The Pakistani lady was brilliant

@tengteng4076

3 жыл бұрын

The Pakistani lady maybe smart but she was blind... Because of her hate of India, she chose to be used by china

More debates like this please!!

Damn this video is so free. How come it’s not available in Chinese or Chinese subtitles

Gaokao is one of the fairest ways. Rural kids can study really hard and get into top universities in China like tsinghua which is even ranked high amongst the world. Meanwhile in the US, just having good test scores isn’t gonna get you into top Universities like Harvard, MIT etc.

@ralphconnell7361

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, because Americans want well rounded kids in their Universities. They don't want workaholics who know nothing but study study and study. How dull life must be for them.

@ribenguniang

3 жыл бұрын

In America, people with low income cannot afford to go to university at all...

@ralphconnell7361

3 жыл бұрын

@@ribenguniang In America, universities are generally insanely high class. You must pay private institutions that excel in teaching. If you don't have money, more than a dozen states offer free colleges or you can be granted a scholarship.

@ribenguniang

3 жыл бұрын

@@ralphconnell7361 whahh! More than a dozen out of 51! In a developped country you get access to high education for free (or nearly for free) everywhere in that country.

@ralphconnell7361

3 жыл бұрын

@@ribenguniang Over a dozen out of 51 is pretty good. On top of this, even more than a dozen provide not free but very cheap colleges. America isn't your rich daddy. It's competitive, seeks hard work and multiple skills unlike China which only focuses on study study study.... America is also much more rewarding if you make it. People praise gaokao but people are committing suicide over the test which is worse than what standard of quality test or fairness a situation may offer! Brutal.

The host was very gracious as would be expected of a CGTN host, clearly China is by far the stronger for human rights. I felt sorry for the USA side, they didn't have a chance and essentially lost on all points. The China team was basically shooting ducks in a barrel, it was a slaughter.

@sxdrujandis

3 жыл бұрын

In defense of the democracy human rights team, I don't find equal footing in the subject of pointing out US human rights violations such as bad cops, or bad politicians, or government corruption as most of those cases in China are highly covered up and discussing them is considered the crime of spreading rumors and causing civil unrest (apology for not the exact definition of that crime). Not an equal argument IMO, China clearly has is own share of examples of human rights violations which could compare to USA's bad record... I'm fairly confident that Chine prisons guards can beat the crap out of an inmate for giving him a wrong look and would never be investigated against.

@fangshuma8969

3 жыл бұрын

@@sxdrujandis for the corruption issues, if you make a comparison of both countries with the same standard, the western politations are not better. It is called corruption in China, but it is political contribution in the US, which is totally legal. 60% of the criminal population is in the US. There are bad cops in China, but much less than those in the US. By the way, spreading rumors in China is mostly fine, until it caused economic or other damages.

@Gi-Home

3 жыл бұрын

@@sxdrujandis I suspect that you have never visited China, I lived and worked in China and I can assure you that human rights are front and center of China's policy. People are actually freer in China than in the USA, the slave labor of American prisons does not exist in China. The standards in China for what constitutes corruption are far stricter in China. Extreme poverty has been eliminated in China and the middle class is growing larger and wealthier every year. In the USA you are free to be poorer and poorer every year and your middle class is shrinking rapidly. USA has invaded or toppled the governments of over 80 countries in the last 100 years, you can't name one that China is responsible for. Like nazi Germany of the 1930's the USA is villifying and demonizing China. The USA is addicted to making endless lies against other countries essentially the USA is run by White supremacist. Things didn't work out too well for the Germans in the 1940's and it won't work out well this century either. Rascism and xenophobia is a sublte thing most people afflicted with this defect are unaware of their biases, hopefully you will review your ignorant views, reflect and set yourself a goal of being a decent human being. Without a doubt you are a product of a rascist upbringing but it is never too late to change.

@irone7050

9 ай бұрын

@@sxdrujandis are you trying to imply all chinese prison guards as such? chinese cops don't even patrol around with their gun so i'm fairly confident you are spewing bs.

57:37 "Secession would destroy the only democracy in existence and prove for all time - to both future Americans and the world - that a government of the people could not survive." - Abraham Lincoln "Is there, in all republics, this inherent and fatal weakness? Must a government, of necessity, be too strong for the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own existence?" asked Lincoln of Congress on - Abraham Lincoln July 4, 1861.

Realy great debate! We should see more debate like this one at TV.

China is One Country & Mandarin is the National Language ...so everybody in China must know

Just because you have the freedom to own gun doesn’t mean that u have the right to be shot when protesting. What kind of excuse is that?

The "Proposition Team" overall kept calm and composed. They appeared to do the better job getting their points across in this debate. The "Opposition Team" did not seem as calm and composed. They seemed a little more defensive. It almost looked as though they were trying to convince themselves about the points they tried to bring up. I could feel this just by looking at the expressions on their faces.

The other guy is in the opposition team talks about US intervention! What they fail to realize is, that for the US, intervention is another way OF SAYING REGIME CHANGE!

Human rights is very complicated issues, in the west even the killer have human right. Very sad for the family who lost there beloved.

@MikenNinginThai

3 жыл бұрын

So, in your eyes anyone who commits a "crime" is a criminal? Totally disregarding the environmental conditions that led the person to commit a crime cause that is irrelevant? Yep you have been fed the CAPITALIST bs hook line and sinker..... so now if one is for "human rights" you can not put conditions on it so just where are these human rights and who says what they are? I think the whole idea is all bs this should of been "CAPITALISTS LAW OF RIGHTS DO'S AND DONT'S"

@zhidom8099

3 жыл бұрын

@@MikenNinginThai Dude ..no matter what the person has gone through there is never an excuse to kill people. Maybe I guess unless the person is being forced to kill. But the majority of the case isn't like that. Again as I said no matter what isn't an excuse to kill a person. Like your gf break up, both parent passes away, or even mental issue. Especially a mental issue person owning a gun I rather all mental issue people to get suicide if they are uncure and ban guns from those crazy. And no matter what once that metal issue person killed a father, a mother, son, etc you can never do anything back in return. A sorry is USELESS Even that dude ends up in jail so what or even execution so what. That dude is an unknown from your life and guesses what you lose a precious loved family member that is never able to return

@davadh

3 жыл бұрын

Very true. In the US, you can literally buy insurance that would allow you to shot someone and still get money from it. It's insane

@ap5672

3 жыл бұрын

@@MikenNinginThai yes someone who commits a crime is a criminal regardless of their past conditions. Their past may get them a lighter sentence or an acquittal, however they became a criminal as soon as the crime is committed. isn't this common sense?

@TheHollandHS

3 жыл бұрын

Especially when innocent people are convicted.

The Chinese side, highly educated and informed, that is human right, from Yemen

Relatively speaking, it is less fair for rural people than urban people in China under the Gaokao system, and by extension, the Hukou system. However, relative to any feasible alternative to the Gaokao system, specifically in China, the Gaokao system is still the most fair. It is important to remind people who may be unfamiliar that the reason why China has had civil service entrance exams for thousands of years is so that even the child of poor countryside peasants can study hard and become a top government official.

I lost it when I heard the girl say the national highschool examinations are biased towards regional people, what is this, opposite day?

It would be really interesting if: ''Half way through the debate the teams had to swap sides and argue for the opposite proposition''.

@adamiskandar5107

3 жыл бұрын

I think professional debaters could do that quite easily, but seeing how the proposition side are so passionate and genuine in their arguments, I doubt they would perform well....unless they were all hypocrites?

@Lu5ck

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamiskandar5107 If they can't do that, it means they are not objective. If they are not objective, that means they are bias. Bias debate isn't a debate but an argument you have with you family that end up with no conclusion.

@madmanjshum

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamiskandar5107 Agree with you totally. The most challenging aspect would be how each member of the teams had to rebut the very arguments they had presented as the opposition in the first half of the debate. However it be interesting and fun to watch. Cheers

@dyrectory_com

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, then this will be an exercise in developing debating and rebuttal skills. There is a time and place for this type of exercise too.

@evdata2459

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lu5ck No, a bias is an opinion without facts. They had their opinion and stated clear concise facts to back it up. That's no bias.

In the US Declaration of Independence it says : “ All men are created equal “ What a joke !

@lorency7183

2 жыл бұрын

I have a problem with you NAR I wrote to TREC 2019 my name Loren Yera in Houston Texas you have false accused me I understand your a big lobbyist group in Washington but am pissed my right and constitution and civil rights have violated by 25 American government agencies. I challenge you to discredit what saying . My life has alter from minute I filed a complaint TREC Houston

There should be a debate like this but between a team from the China side and team from the USA side.

I find the debate on human rights here healthy and inspires better understanding. I choose not to comment on this wide and broad issue though. But watching the debate among the good debaters reinforces my understanding that the protection of human rights is a universal ideal that must be promoted in the world while keeping in mind that the practical elements that make human rights effectively promoted and realized are worth practicing, obviously, like right to good health and nutritious food, education, jobs, freedom of speech, among others. Thank you.

A very interesting debate of human rights in the US and China but in the end I think the proposition delivered a more compelling argument supporting the lifting of 700 million people out of poverty through collective rights rather than individual rights. In my opinion, the proposition team is the winning team having presented a cogent argument in support of the topic "Which country's definition of human rights support humans more?"

@twopercentflat4766

3 жыл бұрын

TBH, I think this is one of the best videos on this channel. I don't like CGTN and all the lies etc. But this was a bit more interesting a fairer. Though I do think they purposefully chose a weak opposition. And god do I hate the first presenter on the proposition.

@RhyliezthUniverse

3 жыл бұрын

@@twopercentflat4766 first of all you make an afirmative statement about lies that isnt true. Second, yes its interesting, but your personal impresion about cgtn mitigates that if you assume that all posted are false due to your impression as also your impresion..which is more based in an opinion than anything else. Also asuming that they tried to purpose a weaker oposition.. so under what circunstances you give them credits?

@meebo000

3 жыл бұрын

RhyliezthUniverse dude just look up for yourself every single Video CGTN uploads onto KZread, there’s absolutely no apposing sides. Everything they post is to boast pro Chinese nationalism. Everyyyy single video they post has an agenda. Are you really that blind to your own countries corruptness? You all loveee to say “oh the US can’t tak when they have all these atrocities” except we all KNOW and don’t support these things. None of these US killings or wars are anything secret or hidden......the Chinese govt sponsored CGTN doesn’t even ALLOW their citizens to know of their atrocities

@bigmike956

3 жыл бұрын

Disagreed

@bigmike956

3 жыл бұрын

@@meebo000 we expose our corruption for what it really is. Conservatives know this.

Any Freedom and Any rights must have the element of responsibility without it becomes license theres no absolute Freedom and Rights the majority of the common Good super ceded any Freedom and any kind of individual rights this is how Asian people view what is Rights.

I'm shocked CGTN allowed this debate. Granted youtube can't be seen in mainland China. I'm not a fan of the CCP but I'll give some credit where credit is due.

I like this debate. They bring out a lot of different issues from both sides. Now if only we can combine the good and suppress the bad, we can build a better world for all

@mena88

3 жыл бұрын

You're right. As citizens of the only functional planet we have, we all should demand that the sane and the highly intelligent from both sides peacefully resolve their misunderstandings of each other before this insidious situation gets totally out of control.

This is very embarrassing trying to defend America human rights record. My black sister is on the wrong side of the argument.

@MelaninMagdalene

3 жыл бұрын

Forgive my sisters for being on the wrong side of history

@blitzmalcolm

3 жыл бұрын

This was very painful to watch. But I enjoy the debate. I welcome more debate like this. I think it's a good thing for the world to learn about the different in systems

out of the 8 participants in this debate, ms khan from parkistan impresses me the most. but overall, this debate has clearly delineated the differences between the viewpoint from each side. well done!!

"The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members.”

Yes you are free in the USA to starve, free to beg in the streets, free to get ripped off over health care, free to be discriminated against, ect,

If we are to chose who actually won the debate, Clearlyyyyyyyyyyyyy the Chinese side won. The Chinese side's statements were based on strong facts while the other side stated everything on the basis of 'assumptions'. CGTN should totalllyyy bring episodes like this often. This was amazing!!!!!

@owningkoning

3 жыл бұрын

@Rajat Upadhyaya hey i advice you to check and click on every channel that posted a comment under this video. You will see all these accounts i checked so far all their past 4 comments they made (and you can see if you click on them) are all related to china and them praising china and demonizing the west. Idk about you but do you know how unlikely it is that from 1000commenters on a video they all are fanatics china supporters lol , not a single persons previous last comment was related to something non politcal, like a comment about a game or a tv show or a hobby or food or whatever NOT A SINGLE ONE lol. So thats why i decided to reply this to you to confirm what you just said it looks like the majority of comments here are fake/trolls that only spread pro china rant .

@jesseibarra5038

3 жыл бұрын

Tf no. Let's its citizens possess firearms

@owningkoning

3 жыл бұрын

@Soulwalker Young oh and how is your comment in anyway dissproving mine? You talk about trolls making Covid accounts that post in the free internet? Yeah whats your point? Chinese wont even have the chance to read it lol cuz theyre hiding behind their restricted internet but the CCP does feel the need to post media on the unrestricted internet. They decide the narrative they put forward.

@owningkoning

3 жыл бұрын

@Soulwalker Young thats not how things work my man , i hold no hatred towards the chinese im just making observation and share them . I can very well accept people who share a positive view about china it just becomes rather obvious when people speak to overly positive while being condescending about everything else western. And according to my observation i found out that this is exactly the case , you can clearly see that the majority of comments made by these commenters on multiple videos are all comments praising china or demonizing the west , idk about you but according to me those are signs of blind hatred , or malicious intent . It means that every person who commented on this video spent all their previous comments on political videos and more specificaly either praising china or demonizing the west......EVERY COMMENT. You know how unlikely that is in the real world ? So dont come knocking at my door with statements that im "brainwashed" because these very commenter are part of the washing or are totally brainwashed themselves. Whenever things look to good to be true it most likely isnt , normal people dont act like fanatics or ultra nationalists. So yea i know for almost certain that the majority of comments are written by chinese nationals .

@aditi8254

3 жыл бұрын

@@owningkoning so according to you guys everyone who talks about China is either 'a bot' or 'China fanatic' orrr as far as 'a spy' ? I am actually out of words to describe your perspective. I did not comment in this very video to start an argument with anyone. It was my 'singular' opinion i drew after watching the whole video and it was you guys who picked an issue out of it. calling me a 'bot' or a China fanatic. What do i say about it now? honestly, i don't even feel the need to defend myself against your opinion on me. But let me tell this to you, you guys puling an individual down for just putting their opinion on the internet shows how disgusting you guys are. i am sorry if i sound harsh, but honestly it is very shameful of you guys to attack at someone who had nothing to do with you at all. anyway, have a great day!

The group supporting America is as much as a joke & disgraceful as Trump!!! What a sad debate...

Excellent debate.. very refreshing 🤔❤️

Kate is do weird she claim that her time is short implying her time was cut short but she finishes her speech everytime before the bell. Lmao