Martin Keown is really articulate, calm, and measured in his responses, but that doesn't stop him from talking absolute rubbish.

@uknownuknown3431

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@keanemarbaniang7641

2 жыл бұрын

Oh MA Lawd 🤣🤣🤣🤣 So trueeeeeeee Progress under Southgate 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@EdgarHernandez-gn3bg

2 жыл бұрын

100% he chats absolute crap and can't handle someone not agreeing with him.

@riaznuckcheddy7568

2 жыл бұрын

He was getting found out big time. He got his ass handed in to him 🤣

@adrianmarrinan7707

2 жыл бұрын

Very few ex players that dont....too many headers maybe! And his point that England are up to 3 in the rankings...the majority of those wins against poor teams and in any case its irrelevant. Belgium have been number 1 for a while but still won FA!

Sat here pissing myself at how Natalie just sits there listening and smirking, didnt need to interject (like JW would always do) as the conversation was good radio

@Moonshine668

2 жыл бұрын

It's frustrating when JW intervenes just let them have it

@markc266

Жыл бұрын

Jim always intervenes with something absolutely moronic too

@adolfryan1930

Жыл бұрын

Natalie is so beautiful inside and out

@aaroningl

Жыл бұрын

@@adolfryan1930 she's not great at her job. Very wooden.

You know Its real when Simon says "with the greatest of respect" 😆

@fragglebean436

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 love him

@Jt99x

2 жыл бұрын

‘And due diligence’ 🤣

@cheesybellend6842

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahha that’s when you know it’s on 😂 . Sir Simon jordan to me what an absolute legend

@stephenmason9527

2 жыл бұрын

"With all the will in the world" 😄

@craigoleary8827

2 жыл бұрын

What a load of cobblers

the moderator is awesome, no unnecessary interruptions like Jim white

@ssk3381

2 жыл бұрын

Jim white also asks real stupid and banal questions. Iam sorry. But I cant stand him. I only listen to hear Jordan.

@garymardle2120

2 жыл бұрын

Jim white is an idiot and loves the sound of his own voice.

Natalie's facial expressions are hilarious during this! You can tell she's waiting for SJ to dismantle Martin's arguments.

@Chris-vz3ce

2 жыл бұрын

🤣👍💯

@fLightTakesFlight

2 жыл бұрын

Literally brilliant! Watched her nearly the whole way through the bickering😂

@MrPhilysis1

2 жыл бұрын

You can tell it’s over head she does not have a clue

@timinruislip6863

2 жыл бұрын

Simon is absolute legend and he reflects almost every opinion I have in football these days! Sexy Sawyer is also to have in this debate

@Batemann1980

2 жыл бұрын

Pity Martin was right or do you think these poor billionaires are being forced to look after their millionaire footballers against their will

Simon just been backhanding everyone of Jim and Trevors replacements this week 🤣🤣

@tommyfletcher9

2 жыл бұрын

Rightly so here. Keown is out of his depth with Simon.

@abyss7049

2 жыл бұрын

I mean they have to get someone in with the same IQ as Sinclair. Both of them waffle nonsense for minutes on end; only to be taken apart by Jordan - while staring at him with that confused empty look 😳

@lanceyt4401

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't see that with Ade I actually thought they worked well together

Martin: Won't someone think of the players! Also Martin: let's hold an international tournament every year

@alinanisiame

2 жыл бұрын

Ex arsenal player Clownery is standard and expected

@dom1664

2 жыл бұрын

@@alinanisiamenot as as a clown as you

@Akinwalesegun

2 жыл бұрын

you omitting the less int friendly, hard to make an informed opinion if you chose to ignore all the details

@alinanisiame

2 жыл бұрын

@@Akinwalesegun less international friendlys still means more qualifiers for euros and World Cup

@_SIRENITY_

2 жыл бұрын

@@alinanisiame Exactly, and also the friendlies rotate and try out players. So the same starting 11 don’t play as much. Tournament every year would be awful

Simon: You say I'm barking at players, I'm not barking, I'm observing stridantly 🤣

@kempo6554

2 жыл бұрын

So intelligent 👏🏽😂

Appreciate Natalie letting them two get into it, instead of intervening

@Upstairsforpete

2 жыл бұрын

She still earn$ whether she chats or makes the tea!!

@frankylampard3931

2 жыл бұрын

She looks so bored lol

@redjohn44

2 жыл бұрын

@@Upstairsforpete someone should give you a medal

I've learnt more English words from Simon on this show than all my years of schooling.

Martin and the players want their cake and to eat it. You can’t keep pushing for higher and higher wages without the clubs having to expand their revenues to pay for it. The way they do this is by having to factor in more games to increase revenue. Players today can be earning over £100000 per week before they’re 20. They are told how amazing they are every day. They have agents ensuring that their every need is catered to. Simon is talking about mental fortitude in players which in the eyes of many is sorely lacking in the modern player. There needs to be a balance but Martin’s way will not help any human being in the long run.

@fragglebean436

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on mate 👊🏽

@stevec6232

2 жыл бұрын

100% right. Their whole lives are managed.

@nathanmoore7120

2 жыл бұрын

Bang on, dude. Well articulated 👌🏻

@stephenmason9527

2 жыл бұрын

You also add in that the legal authorities actually launch criminal investigations into people, even underage kids, who act abusively towards them on social media.

@hustleup3840

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenmason9527 maybe don’t abuse people?

Nat and Simon been 🔥 this week

@swifty250000

2 жыл бұрын

Benefit of no Jim white

Keowns comment on Wishere just clinched the delusion winner of this argument. Absolute ridiculous talking excuses for a player that didnt look after himself off duty.

@96s40

2 жыл бұрын

What he said about physical fatigue and overload actually applies best of players like Pedri, who are being absolutely rinsed internationally and by Barca because the club are struggling to the extent they are, and the club's interests are the priority... or Liverpool's squad depletion last season meaning that players like Matip were rushed back from injuries probably before the optimal rest/recovery period (which was Klopp's admittance in January). Or Rashford seeming to be limping of the pitch at times and delaying surgery to be in the Euros squad.. Which makes it even more unbelievable that Keown supports the idea of a biannual world cup (probably because Wenger is the figurehead); the physical welfare of players cannot possibly benefit from even more international football, but he bypasses that issue conveniently.

@leonhughes9014

2 жыл бұрын

Keown is thick.. he played no more games than any other player and his teamates played until 34/35..

Lol, this was so funny, and poor Natalie in the middle of it all although it looks like she quite enjoyed it.😂😂😂

@abyss7049

2 жыл бұрын

Awwww Natalie ❤❤❤

@barrypower6822

2 жыл бұрын

That's what a good broadcaster does , jim just wants to be the centre of attention

@dndkillaztreble5317

2 жыл бұрын

Natalie loves being inbetween two blokes 😂😂

I love to hear Simon Jordan on here, he is honest and forthright and very knowledgeable. Keown is a legend, top player, top man, someone you would always want on your side. Natalie was great letting the discussion flow. Love the channel.

Love Natalie wanting to laugh when Simon starts 😂

@adolfryan1930

Жыл бұрын

I love Natalie full stop. Haha

Spot on Simon in regard to the Euro Final. I believe a change should have been made @ 60mins. It was obvious.

@tomgardner2253

2 жыл бұрын

Yes England will never have a greater advantage again as they did in that final. The worse thing is being 1-0 early and still losing

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

I think bringing Jack grealish on at that time could have given us that spark just like when Southgate subbed him on vs Germany

Well said Simon, I love the way Martin starts talking about Crystal Palace when he knows he is clearly loosing the argument.... lol.

Two gents having a disagreement. No swearing or raised voices. 👍🏼

@virtuallimit8615

2 жыл бұрын

It's because they were live

@kieranhardy581

2 жыл бұрын

@@virtuallimit8615 no it isnt.

@garydowdall1578

2 жыл бұрын

@@virtuallimit8615 did you ask them that?

@leadfarmer9396

2 жыл бұрын

So saying someone is barking all the time is gentlemanly

@problemstube7266

2 жыл бұрын

I think both are very good listeners....... yeah simon is more clever and comes up with better retaliation.

Keown wanted to handle Simon the way he handled RVN 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Can see Keown imagining smacking Jordan around the room lol

@hustleup3840

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@leepeters3683

2 жыл бұрын

I can see Jordan laughing around the room why he tries lol keown is a muppet

That was one of the BEST debates I’ve heard on this channel for some time …… bring it on ! 👍

@1999deshan

2 жыл бұрын

Simon absolutely destroyed keown

Martin...players get fatigued an play too much. Also Martin in the same day....a world cup every two years is a great idea

Martin got the same glasses as simon for mind games he’s trying to match that simon energy

Don’t know why we’re always supposed to feel sorry for Jack Wiltshire. The guy didn’t take care of himself properly when injured and chose to be hanging out of clubs at 4am. That’s why he doesn’t play

I like how Natalie strategically hides her smirking face from Martin behind the mic

OMG Nats face is the best thing about these two griping... legend!

I listened to the whole show, Martin was off the mark all morning.

@jonnymiller1

2 жыл бұрын

He lives in cloud cuckoo land that bloke. He gets away with it because he’s well spoken and articulate but what he says is nonsense a lot of the time, with a massive bias towards players and his old pal Arsene.

@SR-kv1ic

2 жыл бұрын

As always 😂

@BlauveltBurns

2 жыл бұрын

He always is. Martin doesn’t have substance behind the anecdotes. Nat is loving this !

Nathalie Sawyer is the perfect moderator. She's enjoying the debate and joining the conversation when she needs to. TS should replace Jim White with her on a permanent basis

@GreenNgold7

2 жыл бұрын

Now I could get behind this #FuckJimWhite

@tokhmi2006

2 жыл бұрын

She is like a sofa. Useless, no insight, and unattractive. Adds zero value. Doesn’t ask tough questions. Doesn’t spice up the debate. Isn’t funny. This isn’t a university lecture. It’s a talkshow meaning entertainment. She provides zero entertainment. Complete waste of space and only there bc Talksport wants to show it is inclusive of women. Utter bullshit.

@Chris.1812

2 жыл бұрын

@@tokhmi2006 Jim White does none of those things

@tokhmi2006

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris.1812 solution is not to replace him with a female statue with zero charisma. men’s football should be covered by men as long as there are men pundits and hosts out there.

That was such a good back and forth. Great job guys. 👏👏👏

Natalie was loving this

Quality stuff. Loved that!

Simon is correct, we had a very easy route to the final ans almost perfect conditions (90% a home competition) and the changes that should have been made were not. And someone of the ill of say Venables would have won that competition.

How on earth is Martin Keown denying footballers are wrapped in cotton wool? Not literally of course because they would get too warm but he knows they are the most looked after athletes in sport and the most wealthy just to help them along. I dont have much problem with what anyone earns or how well they are treated but i don't pretend its not obvious these players are treated like Gold by their clubs.

This is the content I paid for.. I love this ❤️

Can imagine all the people who have physically demanding jobs telling their employers that they are burnt out so can only work 3 days a week on the same weekly wages and they need some loving. Simons right hardly no characters left in football. It’s that determination of constantly pushing your limits that made CR7 the winner he is not coming out with fatigue or mentally tired excuses.

@paulos1878

2 жыл бұрын

Bang on Gordon great post.

@kingvidor2747

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, it's brilliant that people suck up to their bosses and work their arses off until they die in a country that works more hours than any other in Europe. What a great standard to set.

@gordonjohnston153

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingvidor2747 it’s not necessarily about your employer taking advantage of you more to do with how far you can push yourself as an individual which builds character and people being able to count on your work ethic but without you letting them take liberties..

@ryancummins8067

2 жыл бұрын

Ronaldo has scored a few one touch tap ins this season however, his overall performances have not been great. Yes he's scored easy tap ins which some were hit straight at the goalkeepers however, he's been anonymous..

@kieren767

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on. Most of these lot wouldn't last a week without whingeing about how hard life is

Martin Keown is spewing a load of tosh here. Once again SJ the only person here talking sense

When did Jack wilshere play too much football?🤣🤣

I totally agree with simon...

Wow I just love the presenters reaction to the spat looking sideway when it gets heated classic

Natalie is loving it

The way the Euro draw panned out it was easy to predict England would get to the final very early on. Actually England are quite good now compared to other nations as the international level has dropped significantly. I know France lost to Switzerland on penalties but I think France Italy Belgium and possibly Portugal would have beaten England and they were all in the other half of the draw. I like Jordan.

@exorcist5651

2 жыл бұрын

Not portugal. Portugal we’re probably massively overhyped even more so than england.

Keown is pretty much saying that criticism of players is not allowed

Thank goodness, an intelligent discussion on Football

Mentally drained do me a favour! Do an 80 hour week then come back to me and talk about mentally drained! Talk about wrapping players up in cotton wool!

@ToddyG645

2 жыл бұрын

Simple way of looking at it...you don't have millions of people judging every decision you make. Being a international footballer brings a lot of mental pressure I'm sure

@84Jason1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToddyG645 ye my heart bleeds

@84Jason1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToddyG645 is that why some of them cant live by rules like the rest of us or is it just because they are spoilt little brats that get what they want when they want?

@ToddyG645

2 жыл бұрын

@@84Jason1 You would be on antidepressants if thousands of people were slating you on social media...this isn't your warehouse job where you can go hide for a couple hours

@ToddyG645

2 жыл бұрын

@@84Jason1 What in particular are you talking about... because actually famous players get targeted and little fights that would be nothing to a ordinary man gets blown out of all proportions if you're a famous footballer...for example Harry Maguire on holiday in Greece

Simon Jordan just ended Martin 🤣🤣

Keown just licks the boots of english footballers and managers, I wish he would give a balanced view and say something interesting, he bores me

@paulhirst7602

2 жыл бұрын

Having heard Martin a few times, I would definitely agree with you on that comment.

natalie sawyer is having fun time

@stephenmason9527

2 жыл бұрын

The expression "if you love your job then you never really work a day in your life" comes to mind. 😄

This is a great trio

Keown seemed to not understand the points of conversation for dispute and just went off on strange tangents. Simon then quite correctly tore him apart

Doctors and nurses are fatigued working 4 12 hour shifts a week.. footballers are not fatigued

Good debate this one

Did he just say Jack W played TOO MUCH FOOTBALL? he means on Playstation? The guy was injured 80% of time

Good old Simon

Well said, Martin.

It boils down to Martin Keown basically telling Simon he spends more time moaning and being negative than praising and being positive. He isn’t wrong. There’s nothing wrong with being critical but to just constantly moan all the time it isn’t healthy.

Wow we need more of this kind of debate. Get jamie and jordan on

I hope Natalie stays and we rid JW from talking total rubbish, this would be one of only a few where female broadcaster actually should and deserves a headline slot, she's up there with Gaby Logan

How can you not love Simon

Simon leaves Keown for dead every time, and I love watching it, I wish he was our chairman. (I'm an Evertonian)

@aaroningl

Жыл бұрын

You're susceptible to Simon's verbal tomfoolery.

Good debate

Simon agreed! Fatigued always mentioned after loss. Look at others sports such as the one I compete in tennis and they play every other day at a high intensity

Both are coming at this topic from different agendas. It's clear Martin wants to be a manager and work in a high-level football club. Maybe one in North London? Simon's more complex, and it's not clear what role he could want other than to furrow his own brand, but he's intoxicated by how widely he himself uses the dictionary. I would happily hear these two ruffle their feathers over a few more nuanced topics in football. That's content in itself.

Specsavers joint trip?

SJ owned Keown there. absolutely bossed it, "get back to loving players"??? give it a rest, my god the audacity of him.

@b.a3595

2 жыл бұрын

Should we hate them and scrutinise them instead yeah

@keanemarbaniang7641

2 жыл бұрын

Love the players by leaving them out of the squad and telling them they’re physically and mentally fatigued 😂

@TheAngryWexican.

2 жыл бұрын

@@b.a3595 who says anything about hating them, SJ doesn't, but they are not beyond critisism, they need to read the room better. spoilt clowns

I was a under 21 manger 3 years ago, one player came to me with some bullshit about him being depressed and “mental health” blah blah blah, I never played him ever again and never really spoke to him again. He got the message and left the club. He was weak!! I don’t do weak!!!!

Firstly, I hate that we debate each and everything England squad announcement (that isn't for a major tournament) like it really matters. We're not talking about Southgate leaving out the captain or something, it's a couple of young lads, it isn't the end of the world. Secondly, player welfare of course matters but it's a stupid topic of conversation because no fan is going to feel sorry for them whilst they all play 3 hours a week for such ludicrous amounts of money.

Look at the coaches in the European cup final, if Southgate and mancini became available there will be a host of top clubs out for one of them, and no prizes for guessing who 🤷🏻‍♂️

Any video without Jim White is a great video

Keown to Jordan: Who hurt you?

9:53 😂😂

#Keown is a Legend!!

great debate haha

Simon Jordan should be running this country let alone football. No nonsense straight talker, it's what we all need.

Natalie subtly stirring the pot haha. Brilliant radio.

Simon on point as always

Someone was getting turned on sitting inbetween 2 alfas going at it 😂😂

Wilshare is an example of importance to protect young blood players.Concerned about Saka being a talisman for Arsenal at his age

@FootballRoundUp817

2 жыл бұрын

And England 🤔

8 games! How can they be fucking fatigued. I’m tired, going to bed - but will be at work tomorrow.

Fucking love Jordan 😂

Simon is the self appointed football authority.

Cool debate.

7:15 - 7:25 oh, she is enjoying this! LOL

It's a bit different from the 70's innit.

Simon Jordan. Speaks truth every time !!

Wait for a second was Martin pretending to be as intellectual or versed as Simon? 😂

@keanemarbaniang7641

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@omatseyeugen5697

2 жыл бұрын

Get off his D***. He is not that smart!!

No crowds players can have a bit of a rest

Keown was furious.

"Southgate will learn from it" he's an international manager not a first time boss in the conference learning his trade

Drawing Italy is nothing anyone would dream of! BTW, Simon changes his arguments when he feels like he is losing.

Her facial expressions are great

Natalies patient silence and giggles brilliant compared to jims sensationalism

That was Martin popped into the pocket

Simon Jordan has the biggest ego istg

@jameslaude3654

2 жыл бұрын

I think his ego has been blown into epic proportions recently due to the average person thinking he’s a revolutionary. Attention going to his head.

@callumoconnor1216

2 жыл бұрын

@@jameslaude3654 Yh I agree tbh I have a feeling none of his fans have any backbone so cos he says whatever , they jus look up to him

@AM.10

2 жыл бұрын

@@callumoconnor1216 lol they agree with everything he says ahaha I guess being well spoken & taking fast = the mesiah

Protecting. If good enough then they're old enough. Greenwood's been immense so far this season.

thats my dawg..

Martin had plenty of rest in the international game's because he couldn't hold down a England spot , so how on earth would he know about fatigue 😂😂

Simon dropping truth bombs all week

Simon Jordan world class love listening to him, man with honesty and integrity.

Keown just keeps banging on about Wenger. It's embarrassing