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As a whole BM ignore colorism because as mentioned they want to be on the same level as YT men. And this is done both with them knowing it & with them doing it & not realizing. Ask the average BM if he wants liberation for ALL Black people, women, children, & Black LGBT included. I guarantee the answer is a big fat NO. They want Black Patriarchy. End of discussion.

@Nekole1

Жыл бұрын

THIS!!

@niablee

Жыл бұрын

This is EXACTLY why I’m pro Black women!

@gregorywalker6802

Жыл бұрын

@@Nekole1 Explain to me why Black women in the US enjoy looking unnatural such as: Eyelashes & nails from S. Korea, Hair extensions & wigs from SE Asia & India, Fake eye contacts : Eastern Europe & BBL'S surgery done in the Caribbean...,.... And you all really think you look nice but you all look like Extraterrestrial Aliens...... Also, you Black women in the US are walking around Obese but think Thick is cute....., SMDH

@mabel9701

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. They only want to be in a white man’s position with access to power, resources and white or non-black women. They don’t care about breaking the cycle and that’s why I don’t f with them.

@iamemancipate

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

Telling them they experience colorism too will not stop them from partaking it because they don't like themselves either.

@kayshawnsimmons5585

Жыл бұрын

And that's the real Issue

@j_g1

Жыл бұрын

​@@coryskizm It means black men do not like other black men nor do they like themselves (not their personalities or their looks but simply, 'the black man'). There is no pride in it so it'd be a mistake to think understanding that they're adversely affected by colorism would make them act any differently. It's the disdain they have for themselves and each other that shows up as the hate for everyone else in their community.

@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves

Жыл бұрын

Exactly and let’s not pretend there isn’t a whole song made about BW calling them dark and ugly Cyn G posted it a few weeks ago

@rayofirst8885

Жыл бұрын

​@@j_g1A WORD!

@leighbotts9694

Жыл бұрын

@@coryskizm you and your friends don’t make up the collective of black men. Remove yourself and your friends from the situation and then really evaluate if you feel like black men’s actions as a whole reflect self love. You should come to a different understanding.

just wanted to comment as an Asian person that i agree that colorism is very much global and entrenched in lots of other cultures. lots of korean and chinese kids have spoken about their grandmas not letting them out in the sun. there was that infamous filipino commercial for a product that supposedly gives you white skin. my grandma told me about how she wishes she could wash off her slightly darker skin like dirt. people in the U.S. are only starting to realize it now with the rise of kpop and korean makeup and skincare brands being so blatantly and shamelessly colorist. but it's not even a questioned system (in my experience as a chinese american, i could be wrong). it's like saying the sky is blue.

@maryjane2965

Жыл бұрын

When I see clips of Korean TV I feel like they look like corpses lol.Their skin looks like wax, dead and unnatural.😊

@shizzlemywizzle1

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but black Americans have been very aware of colorism for a very long time. We’re aware of it in the same way your community is aware of it. Every black woman that I know personally has known because it’s a pervasive issue. I’m sure other communities feel the same way. It goes deeper than just seeing K-Pop and Korean skincare/makeup. Koreans pop culture did not start the discussion - it has been happening on a global scale for centuries.

@meme-fs1jn

Жыл бұрын

Do you hate the lighter skinned Asians? In your culture? Do you want the light skinned Asians to identify as something else, as to not erase the image of the brown skinned Asian?

@juratory8876

Жыл бұрын

​@@shizzlemywizzle1 Yep. Couple that with the negative depictions of Black people, especially dark-skinned Black people, and then you have whole generations of Black kids developing a deep-seated hatred for their skin color.

@Frosting1000

Жыл бұрын

@@shizzlemywizzle1 I don’t disagree with that. Asian Americans and Asians have been aware of it for a long time. When I mentioned kpop I’m just talking about people outside my community noticing it, not trying to diminish the issue. I’m aware it’s beyond just makeup and beauty standards.

I can definitely attest to the fact that perception of being mixed or “other” results in better treatment. I am a darker skinned black woman with a slim nose and a looser hair texture. I am often asked if I’m East African or mixed. Its honestly really jarring how quickly people switch up after they figure out I am neither of the two.

@ayanomar1408

Жыл бұрын

I am sorry you they switch up like that. I am east african and similar to your discribtion and for the longest I didnt understand why and how I was “othered” even my kids are “othered” even tho they fit the definition of african american🙃

@knowvilleknows1075

Жыл бұрын

How is you being asked if you’re mixed “better treatment”? Pls explain

@cc6546

Жыл бұрын

​@@knowvilleknows1075 she said being viewed as mixed gets better treatment, not the question itself being a sign of treatment. Re-read it

Listening to you read that statement in the beginning about canceling your event made me cry. I’m such an emotional ass Pisces smh. Sending you love sis. Love, protection, peace.

I really hope you dive deeper into the concept of “mejorar la raza”. it’s a concept that was initiated during Spain’s colonization of the Americas, and was a way to code the Spainiard’s methods of breeding out Blackness and Indigeneity. nowadays, it’s still a thing a lot of Latinx parents will tell their kids (especially non-Black latinx people). to this day, many immigrant latinx parents encourage their kids to partner and have kids with someone white or light-skinned, so that each generations is lighter and lighter until achieving whiteness. this shit is wild.

@keptbygrace6221

Жыл бұрын

El blanqueamiento

@meme-fs1jn

Жыл бұрын

If it was actually a big deal, dark skin would be ERASED 100 years ago! But guess what??? Dark skinned people are still here 😂. This conversation is pointless

@sh0eh0rn4

Жыл бұрын

@@keptbygrace6221 yes exactly!!! it still lives 😭

@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’m very curious about it! I cannot find any videos on it!

@sh0eh0rn4

Жыл бұрын

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 there’s a really good video on the AJ+ Channel called “Latin America Tried to Eliminate Blackness and Failed”, which has an overview of these historical concepts. It also has interviews with some amazing Afro-Latinx scholars who I would recommend checking out. I hope this helps!

I don't feel like they ignore it. They perpetuate it against Black women.

@tiredoftheworld4834

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

Kim, THIS is why I've always fucked with your channel. 💙 I'm a lightskin Black man, and I agree 100% so far as I've watched. Colorism is so real, and it goes so far beyond the desirability conversations we get trapped in. I like that you touched on how desirability is a commodity-based value system. It's about extracting value from fetishized bodies. I think it's also important that you highlighted that color isn't race... A pitfall that both Black and white people fall into all the time. In both communities this conflation inevitably pushes race into a purity/essentialism project.

Kim we are here, we support u!

I'm only 30 minutes in, but the title alone made me think of a joke I heard that said Black men talk really bad about light skinned men, but are in a rush to make one. This is about the stereotype that lighter Black men were "soft", and the context was also for BM who date white women, but still rang true. I'll edit as I listen lol

@genovasquez8361

Жыл бұрын

Black men talk bad about each other period. It's about competition on who can get the most girls.. Black men when feel threaten like ole boy can steal my girl will result to insults. I always had black men hate on me. Hell two of my cousins use to hate me bad..come to think of it maybe that was colorism because they were darker than me.

@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024

Жыл бұрын

The bashes towards lighter skinned men is also very homophobic/transphobic as well.

@nothingnothing5183

Жыл бұрын

BS

@kingleo8048

Жыл бұрын

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 dumbest comment I’ve read

@yaggayaggaya9918

Жыл бұрын

@@kingleo8048 can you dispute it, with receipts tho?

This reminds me of how yt moms with mixed kids acknowledged that they thought their kids were safe from police brutality because they were part yt. Thought their kids being lighter would make them less likely to be done in by a cop. That Daunte Wright case is where I heard this quiet part bein said out loud.

@lickjo

Жыл бұрын

well it actually is true that mixed/lightskin black men have shorter prison sentencings, less police incidents, easier to get a job, less likely to get fired, etc. Colorism absolutely affects black men and outside of specific instances, lightskin black men are the direct beneficiaries. Obviously it doesn't mean they have the same amount of privilege as white men, but they do have significantly more privilege than darkskin black men. There's been a bunch of studies on this.

@brooklyndecember

Жыл бұрын

If you think they're wrong you're not paying attention. Duane is an outlier because of his phenotype.

@knowvilleknows1075

Жыл бұрын

This exactly. Racist people don’t care if you’re half of what they hate, or full. If you are identifiably black in any way, you are treated as such

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

​@@knowvilleknows1075can we agree will also noting that people who look the most black have it even worse? Dark skin globally is associated with lower class anyway so that there tells us there is a problem.

I'm not latina, but from my understanding "mejorar la raza" refers to the concept of "cleaning up the race", meaning breeding the Black and Indigenous blood/features out of Latin American folks colonized by the Spaniards. I don't have reading recommendations because I've mainly heard of it by watching interviews and other media sources, but I'd be surprised if scholars haven't written about it.

@brooklyndecember

Жыл бұрын

Scholars have been writing about it for decades. You honestly think it hasn't been covered, especially by Latin scholars? There was a world before online.

@xocolaatl

Жыл бұрын

I'm Mexican and we also say mejorar la raza to just refer to dating someone who's attractive or taller. Not just for someone with lighter skin

They ignore it because they want a seat under massa table

@emileigh6524

Жыл бұрын

Chill not under 😂😂😂

@papamaehem

Жыл бұрын

At 30 million blacks deleted through planned parenthood ain't no one sat on massa table more then Bw... 😒

@kayshawnsimmons5585

Жыл бұрын

@@emileigh6524 you know they want white acceptance but never really get it

@zero1188

Жыл бұрын

Nah they ignore it because men are taught to get over your problems and move on. The second a man complains about stuff he is shamed. A man complaining about colorism doesnt help him. Imagine a man saying he didnt get hired because of colorism. Lol

@zoefreeman9478

Жыл бұрын

@@zero1188 you think women don’t get shamed for talking about it? And It’s not complaining it’s talking about it and creating awareness because that actually does effect change. Seems dumb to just ignore something so prevalent

The KZread algorithm is wild. Kim talking about colorism and all the commercials are for art supplies 😂😂 I usually just skip the commercials thoughtlessly, but this makes me want to pay attention to what ads are advertised in what type of video.

*mejorar la raza means better the race its a latin ideology of date and marry laughter and whiter I'm pretty sure it was used in a AA conversation because alot of dark skin black men have said they don't want black kids publicly basically the same thing latin children have been taught growing up to get rid of any visible Native American and or African features it's sad af*

This is an amazing research paper and feeds right into my sociology brain! Will definitely be reading it in full on my downtime

Being a BM preference only means we get picked 1st to get dogged out because the gag is we all getting the same BM😂 BM don't value marriage really.

I was so confused. I thought Robyn and Giselle was code for Rihanna and Beyoncé

@Mariah203

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

I’m so sorry about the sip and paint 🎨

Even our only “black” president was a biracial black man. There is some merit in that anecdote😂

Another point on this.Most “first Black” persons in anything - US president, vice president, supreme court justice, NASA mathematician, Harvard grad, etc - are all light skinned, in my observation. It almost never fails. Not to undermine their accomplishments, but it just goes to show how pervasive colorism truly is.

@rejectionisprotection4448

Жыл бұрын

And they're often non ADOS, especially in politics.

@genovasquez8361

Жыл бұрын

Clarence Thomas???? Bob Johnson ?????

@ERoss338

Жыл бұрын

Ketanji?

@oihcam22

Жыл бұрын

@@genovasquez8361”Most”, make sure you read statements twice if you tend to skip over words.

@oihcam22

Жыл бұрын

@@ERoss338 ”Most”, make sure you read statements twice if you tend to skip over words.

It’s so sad and mind blowing just hearing these types of articles and the data involved. My heart aches for this world. Especially a world where colorism literally predates racism like what. Mouth dropped and mind shot 😢 I’m sad 💔. Please y’all stay safe 🙏🏽

I love your videos and I have been talking about this among my peers. The cancer of colonialism is prevalent everywhere and colorism is the tumor in manifestation. I am just glad I’m not alone in learning and educating myself in these matters. Thank you for your voice and persistence of the truth and also being a role model of pursuit of happiness without losing integrity.

😂"Shut the fuck up. Leave me alone. That's not what I said. "😂

33:05 thing is many men don’t really care about all that. They have embraced the colorism that affects them. They have embraced the system and instead of fighting against it, they deal with it and want to participate. Blk men desire the same power as Whyt men. Notice many of them don’t fight against Blk male injustice. It’s usually BW. I think it’s a survival mentality, passing on the genes, maybe?

“IF YOU DINT KNOW THE DATA WHY ARE YOU TALKING ANOUT SOLUTIONS?!” wow. yes. 1:13:35

BBC is a COLLECTIVE MYTH 😂 NEVER encountered one in my life😢

@Jeff-xv6gk

Жыл бұрын

🧢

@submissiveproviderstboth9485

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeff-xv6gk not cap! Science-based stats and anecdotal data ♥

As an older gen z (born in 98) with a gen z brother (born in 05) colorism like most social issues is treated as it exists, it's bad, not gonna do anything about it unless it benefits me

Gonna braid my hair with this in the background. Love these lengthy streams.

I hope you take all the pennies that dude DOESNT have! Thats incredible that he would sit there and pull a lie out of thin air! Im so angry because building community is so crucial for blk women.

In regard to Monk's statement that it is puzzling that Black people have not protested against colorism and treat it as secondary to ethno-racial discrimination, I say that it isnt puzzling at all given that most of the Black leaders have been light skinned. Therefore, it makes sense that their focus would be on racism and not colorism. They benefit from colorism while racism is the only thing standing in their way of being equal to white ppl. The very thing that places them in the forefront and in the leadership positions of black movements is also the very thing that possibly misguides the focus of Black movements.

Idk how KZread recommended me this video when I don't see it listed on the main channel, but I'm SO HAPPY they did. This was such a great thing for me to listen to while I was working on a build in the Sims. When I was in my Social Analysis on Race Relations class before I got my Masters, my favorite study we read was one called The Skin Color Paradox. It outlines all the ways we don't talk about colorism in our conversation on race relations and the outcomes for black people and also why it has, historically, been so difficult for us to talk about and critically asses the role that colorism plays in our community. It was such a brilliant read. Not all of the reasons are bad in nature, but it gave me a lot to think about.

the colorisim convo is something that we talk a lot about in my household, my ethnicity is east african and skin tone varies a lot from very pale to darker tones and yes ofcours you get judged for it. moving to the US I am considered a light skin. my son is very pale and my daughter and husband have darker skin tones. my daughter is old enough to ask: how come I am not as light as my brother? I wish I was little bit lighter. if there are videos or ways to show her that she is perfect the way god made her please let me know. I always remind her that she is beautiful when society is trying to tell her she is “less” than others because of her color

1:13:22 “How can we talk about solutions if we aren’t on the same page about what the problems are?” Kim said do your homework and your reading before you come in here being loud and WRONG! 😂

I absolutely love this conversation! Thanks Harriet for all your work. The rebuttals to this topic are so important to analyze. I responded to a comment here because I keep seeing this excuse black men use. “Dark skin GIRLS did this to me” Ummmmm…. so those few dark skinned ‘girls’ literally gave you a pass to be colorist to the women of your race. What’s hilarious is that women don’t have such a petty bone in their body. I have never heard a black women let alone “girl” use her bad experiences with black “boys” to dictate their acceptance of black “men”. No black man ever has cried out to the world saying they don’t know if a black women likes them. It’s sad because regardless of how non black these people go to escape the truth. The child they bare will still be seen as black and also may have that same dark skin no matter how many times they wish to the heavens they don’t. SMH they see nothing wrong with it.

I knew, colorism was an issue but I didnt expect the differences btw lsbp and dsbp in results and expectations to be as big as differences btw White and Black people. 🤯 Edit: and yes, I agree with Tatiana. I was surprised to learn, that the rise of mixed children will likely be the cause of a reinforcement of colorism. I guess, we will always need a way to distinguish ourselves from one another.

Incredible work as always

Would love to read this article. Is there any way you can leave a link?

Smart Kimberly 💚. I see you and you’re doing good work Sis.

Black academia is very light. We DO NOT, as academics, talk about this enough. They take up a great deal of space - especially in Black Studies - and its not interrogated, at all. Whew.

Thank you for citing Deep South by Dr Davis! I’m currently reading it now and it’s nice to see his work is alive and well. His wife, Elizabeth Davis also contributed significantly to the study. However, he had to put his white colleagues on for their “credibility” even though he spearheaded the study. Also gorgeous as always Kim ❤

to the point about US presidents: “Only five - Richard Nixon, Lyndon B. Johnson, Chester A. Arthur, Andrew Johnson and John Quincy Adams - had brown eyes.” - some article I googled

@Igboman87

Жыл бұрын

Ronald Reagan, Barack Obama

@sh0eh0rn4

Жыл бұрын

@@Igboman87 Reagan had blue eyes, I think. but yes to Obama.

@Igboman87

Жыл бұрын

@@sh0eh0rn4 No, Reagan's eyes were brown.

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

​@@Igboman87 Obama is not fully white. We are talking about 100% white men.

@Igboman87

6 ай бұрын

@@iateyursandwiches It shouldn't matter; both races can have non-brown eyes.

Brown men too. Say no to colorism

I ❤ a word smith but I was shocked to see you didn't know what that word meant and the pure satisfaction on your face not knowing that word......priceless.

The discussion of colorism is so important right now as we become a more mixed population. The term "POC" erase the realities of colorism.

39:28 I will say that as a milk chocolate colored Black woman who is also 4th generation college graduate and 3rd gen graduate school educated, the line that that comes down through is lighter with straight hair. These are just the facts.

1:15:00 Black women are also participating heavy into the patriarchy! Black straight women specifically

@hr9336

Жыл бұрын

It makes sense for straight BW to participate in patriarchy. Married women are BETTER OFF financially under patriarchy:

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

No shit. Some women in general have always participated. Doesn't mean it can't also be problematic.

Great reading and conversational content.

Once I looked up "mejorar la raza", I understood the artist Amara La Negra so much better. It's like an entire counter movement in her name.

That was such a great vid. Thank you so much for your research and dedication.

I was waiting to see if you were going to talk about this lol 1:04:23

Hey Harriet! It’s affecting them in the NFL and NBA. Also, I just saw the new Scream 6…remember back when they replaced Black women with the lighter skinned woman, the biracial or even the YT woman, WELL GUESS WHAT?! They replaced the Black man too, they had a real suave Barrack Obama looking biracial 😂 Not a black man in sight!!

1:04:24 this is definitely true in medicine. A little yes in medschool but definitely more in residency and academic faculty.

Mixed light skin ain't the same as Black Light skin❤

@askellpositive

Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅😅 lighskin isn't black

Oh believe me they know. They're just like that kid in school who gets bullied for something and end it up preying on somebody weaker than him in order to bully and feel accepted by others.

Referring to the point at 33:50, the crazy part is white men treat dark skin black women the same. It’s objectification. But how does that translate to the ways in which you are systematically disadvantaged

I'm sad to say that BM do nothing but scare me now.

Ugh, so good. Thank you for this commentary.

I’m sorry but that Michael B Jordan comment took me down 😂

"Multi-generational light skin" Wait this just clicked for me in a way that it didn't before

Link to the article you referenced please!! ❤️😩🔥

We (BM) definitely experience colorism. We even do it to each other 😂. Sad but 🤷🏾‍♂️. We gotta do better.

@kingleo8048

Жыл бұрын

Simping

@Thejericko17

Жыл бұрын

@@kingleo8048 Im gay. I don't simp for women but sure bro 🤣😂. I stand with my sisters cause they gotta deal with yall 😂🤣.

@kingleo8048

Жыл бұрын

@@Thejericko17 No wonder

@Igboman87

Жыл бұрын

@@kingleo8048 How is he simping??

@tyronelorenzovalentio3414

Жыл бұрын

@@Thejericko17 simp

I missed the part about black men are choosing light skin women over their lives. Can someone fill me in on that.

Great video! Love the research, love everything...

Will always be here to listen to amazing work....great topics ..explore deep issues and learn from you..push through the hate and continue to rise.

I'm a black man... Colorism and featurism definitely has an effect on black men... just doesn't impact us as hard as women because more of a woman's quality of life (especially one provided by a man) is leveraged and hinged on her physical appearance and sexual attractiveness as it relates to men.

@samiam5434

Жыл бұрын

Correct!

@fan7708

Жыл бұрын

YESS! And men’s quality of life is leveraged in masculinity which black men are known for.

@squirrelsinmykoolaid

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it doesn't impact you as hard, just not in the same ways. Think about police brutality for example. If a deeper skin tone is negatively associated with masculinity and even aggressiveness, deviance, or criminality, then that would impact how police perceive/interact with dark skinned Black men. The outcome would be more violence because they could be "afraid" based on those stereotypes/associations. This is why the "light skinned Black men are soft/weak/harmless" talking point subtly reinforces colorism. The opposite of "soft/weak/harmless" is essentially strong and dangerous. Studies have also shown that darker skinned Black folks suffer more healthcare disparities and longer jail and prison sentences. So yeah, I think the intersections of gender and colorism don't necessarily mean men don't suffer as much. Just in different ways

@squirrelsinmykoolaid

Жыл бұрын

@@fan7708 I know not all Black men are criminals. That's not the argument I was making, and it doesn't really matter if a person actually committed a crime or not because innocent Black people are locked away all of the time. Mass incarceration is historically linked to enslavement. Because of historical reasons, dark skin is associated with deviance and criminality and that is colorism.

@Okbutreally463

Жыл бұрын

@@fan7708 I find this comment stated weirdly, no disrespect or harm. It’s just black men who experience police brutality are not innately criminal. A lot of the videos we see are literally average men minding their business but even so if they are criminals this does not stop police brutality to non criminals..if you think this can not be you or any black men around you because you “follow the rules” that’s sadly disproven

What book is Kim reading in the PDF?

@justinemillerlopez6371

Жыл бұрын

I also want to know

Hello For Harriet audience. I am writing about the ICC decision on Maria Lvova-Belova. I am looking at historical materialism used to justify the removal of children from one identity group to another. Does anybody have any good reads on this topic?

I'm only 36 minutes in but this is making me think of Chelsea from the new season of Love is Blind saying she was wrecked or something like that when she was telling the other girls that she and Kwame have gotten intimate. I know she didnt have any mal intent but her choice of words couldnt help but bring the buck stereotype to mind.

I love your videos. I learn so much, thank you ❤

Lol I'm weak at the creamy white part 😆

Genuinely confused as to how colorism is not racism. Isn’t it just how Black people use the racist hierarchy within our own racial group?

@emac1286

Жыл бұрын

I see colorism as a close cousin to racism.

@moveone9013

Жыл бұрын

Colorism is self hate.

@anele.nsithole5593

Жыл бұрын

To my understanding it's more like internalized racism. So their "blackness" animates as a decentured, and relative to whitness. This can look like the attempt to place one's self closer to whitness or playing into stereotypes that are perpetuated by white supremacy (e.g., BBP).

@gregorywalker6802

Жыл бұрын

@@anele.nsithole5593 exactly

@moenlighted7681

Жыл бұрын

So bw aren't colorist when they lust and only respect wm.

Lol @ The trolls and Hobbits! 🤣🤣🤣😳

* beige outrage * Kimberly: STFU. LEAVE ME ALONE. THATS NOT WHAT I SED 😂😂

Referenced case study: " The Unceasing Significance of Colorism: Skin Tone Stratification in the United States" by Ellis P. Monk, Jr.

This is so true!! College grads!!

Sending love ❤️

This is thee best content on colorism.

great video

Title VII covers discrimination based on color.

What harrassment have you received? What are some ways you feel that KZread/alphabet/google could fix these issues you are experiencing?

@amenajackson8133

Жыл бұрын

If you say anything about Asians or Jews the comments get removed immediately. The same can be done for black women.

@TheDCbiz

Жыл бұрын

@@amenajackson8133 the algorithm removes comments that mention those groups of people you mentioned? But I saw your comment

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

​​@@TheDCbiznegative slurs for Jews and Asiand my friend. Obviously.

We don’t view each other has human beings America has conditioned us to prioritize sex and view value in genitals rather than genuine relationships

No wonder we’re doomed 🤣😂🤣

@1:13 Kim, great video, but don't be so dismissive of those asking for solutions. Data for data's sake is useless. We are to use data to make informed decisions in problem solving.

@genovasquez8361

Жыл бұрын

Yes where are the solutions i have a few.

That aderall's no joke 😆

25:00- book reccomendatiom

@nanostar7660

Жыл бұрын

27:06 -race and color being referred to as the same

But they are more willing to play along with the statues quo

Does Macklemore winning the Grammy over Kendrick count as colorism against black men 🤔

@ohay10

Жыл бұрын

no that would be racism considering macklemore is a white man.

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

Macklemore is an Irish American white man ....

Even now when I look at Tina Knowles, I still am amazed that's she not white. She's very white passing...imo.

@keptbygrace6221

Жыл бұрын

If I'm not mistaken, she is from Louisiana. There was a lot of race-mixing going on during the 1800s and even a large population of "gens de couleur"- free people of color. The novel Feast of All Saints talks about how Louisiana society was full of people classified as mulatto, quadroon, octoroon, etc. There was one character who wanted to marry a free (dark skinned) black man but her mom wanted her to be a white man's mistress instead so her children would be privileged with education and status. Such an interesting topic.

@rejectionisprotection4448

Жыл бұрын

Matthew Knowles thought she WAS white, which is why he approached her in the first place.

@genovasquez8361

Жыл бұрын

I met a girl off the dating apps last week she is white passing but mostly because of her voice...she is so light and how she talks I feel kinda of turned off because I think she a white girl.

@mimi-rk2qu

Жыл бұрын

Tina Knowles is a French Creole. If she would’ve been middle classed she would have married better. That’s the only way a lot of these extremely dark people infiltrated these families was through poverty.

@Igboman87

Жыл бұрын

As light as Tina Knowles is, she can absolutely still pass as a Black woman. During slavery times, a woman with Tina's features would be a house slave. A white-passing biracial would be someone like Mariah Carey.

What was the study?

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Black men are far more desired than black women so it’s not the same experience

@Chambermenz

Жыл бұрын

Is that why so many of you are homeless?

@kaimckai

Жыл бұрын

@@Chambermenz where’s that statistic from? Most homeless people are white. But back to the subject so you think black women are desired as much as black men?

@Chambermenz

Жыл бұрын

@@kaimckai lol. Tell me you don't understand stats without telling me. Bm are only about 5% of the US population and 1/3 of the homeless population. But you're worried about desirability😆. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@kaimckai

Жыл бұрын

@@Chambermenz yea like homeless black men fill out census forms lol you wouldn’t know how many black men are homeless. Either way this is still off subject lol and you didn’t respond cause you know it’s true. In society and in the media black men are more desired than black women

@Chambermenz

Жыл бұрын

​@@kaimckai It's very much on topic because the topic is colorism and how bm are affected by it. Bm like you think their "desirability" means they don't experience it like bw do. The stats Kim read, and the reality of your lives proves otherwise. Youre down bad out here in these streets...literally and colorism plays a role. But keep thinking you desired and not subject to colorism like bw tho kang 👍🏾.

Your half up half down…giving Ariana

Who the hell says that we ignore it? There are many prejudices amongst Blk men,including height, financial status and education!

@tyronelorenzovalentio3414

Жыл бұрын

They are women

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

Height is universal lol, not specific to black men! Financial status and education yes, but I promise you. Most of them are not talking about it, and you can see that first hand with many of the comments by black men here. They see it only a women problem. This is partially all of our faults though because too many BW keep presenting it as a problem of desirability mostly when it's clearly much more than that...for all of us no less. It's likely due to the fact that perceived beauty affects women more of course.

Mejorar la raza means to improve the race (by marrying or having kids with light skinned folks or white people). A lot of black people have been doing this probably since reconstruction.

As a white Appalachian, it's hard to wrap my head around the idea of someone's great-great-grandparents going to college. Since the university I attend was founded in 1787, I understand that somebody's grandfather must have been a student there, but that experience is just so alien to me. I had to pause the video and absorb it, haha

Jefflene😅😊

You asked as you were reading the paper, "how can we look for solutions when we aren't on the same page about what the problems are?" We know these problems. The stats you were reading are just confirmations of the most upsetting and hurtful things that black people live with every day: the darker I am, the less people will think of me, the worse they will treat me, the less I will be paid. We get it. YES, the commenter wanted to ask about solutions, because we are tired of hearing the same depressing and defeating things over & over. This might be an issue that I give up on. I swear if I watch one more colorism video that does nothing but gripe about how poorly the world is ready to treat dark skinned people, I might scream... If you repeat something over & over, whether you love the statement or hate it, you WILL come to believe whatever you keep repeating. I'm not doing this with y'all. I managed to be born in 1990 and make it to 32 with a full, whole-hearted belief that people of every color and creed can be beautiful, successful, and worthy of praise. The world now is coming into agreement with me, slowly but surely. What I'm not gonna do, is keep watching y'all bring up old, outdated ideologies and harmful stats, and positing these negative perceptions as inescapable "truths". I'm finna go watch Quinta Brunson or something... Just going to focus on BEING the change I wish to see. If y'all wanna die harping on this depressing ass hill, that's y'all's prerogative. I can't go down with you, or anyone else intentionally or unwittingly perpetuating it.

@larissalaflore7202

Жыл бұрын

Colorism is an issue but I agree with you. I don't understand making video after video trying to persuade people to see colorism as a major issue in their lives when it seems some just don't see it that way. I think listing statistics without showing any actual men speaking about their opinions or experiences on this subject doesn't really prove anything about how some of them feel. Some people think other things have more priority.

Alot of it are taught by the mothers.

@iateyursandwiches

6 ай бұрын

Some of it but fathers definitely participate alot. I think the best way women could help is educating their sons and being an example of black beauty by mainly wearing their natural hair. If they have to wear weave, wearing kinky/coily weaves rather than straight hair.