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@sarchlalaith8836

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe replace the British yatagan leather grip with sharkskin? It's waterproof and very grippy and there is evidence of it being used on swords

@MaZEEZaM

3 жыл бұрын

I have a question regarding swords generally, for swords such as that at your head height that have significant backward-curve much more so than the sword featured in this video, would the significant curve not be a disadvantage if fighting as the leading edge is delayed from hitting your target?

@MaZEEZaM

3 жыл бұрын

How heavy in kg’s would the Yataghan be and how heavy would a typical real samurai sword be? Btw, I love the look of that yataghan bayonet, the one with the crappy grip.

@kelticknight6116

3 жыл бұрын

good day good sir amazing video watch would you be interested in selling the British yataghan you were showing. with respect intended cheers tim seaton

@acyutanandadas1326

3 жыл бұрын

Advantage of red tunics is that the men, if wounded would not lose heart to see their blood Of course they also wore dark brown pants

Yataghan another video from Matt Easton.

@afinoxi

3 жыл бұрын

This comment only makes sense if you completely butcher the name like Matt does btw. The correct pronunciation would be with very hard a's , like in the word "father" and instead of a hard g it would be a soft g , like a German ch but without that vibration sound to it. Good joke tho.

@Xaiff

3 жыл бұрын

I see :D

@Sk0lzky

3 жыл бұрын

@@afinoxi except father has a long a, while both as in yatagan are short, with the second even being reduced

@afinoxi

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sk0lzkyI meant the hardness of the a's. Also , Turkish doesn't have really pronunciation rules like that. Say things the way you like , nobody will care. For example , like the word "Azerbaijan" , some people will say Ā-zer-bay-can while some will say A-zer-bay-can , or like the word "paper" , some will say kâğıt with a soft a , while some will say kağıt , with a hard a. Also I never saw anyone pronounce father with long a's , might just be because I don't live in a place where people speak English , but I didn't hear it in the media either. Where are you from btw ? Turk ?

@Sk0lzky

3 жыл бұрын

@@afinoxi Poland but I travel around eastern Europe a lot. I was taught that there used to be long and short vowels in Turkish but only old people actually pronounce them nowadays so I guess you're right there is no rule :D However I also know that there are lots of interesting dialects so I wouldn't be surprised if some people didn't pronounce that soft/glissando-ish "g" at all PS Regarding that reduction I meant the third 'a', I can't count >

"Ottoman Empire was big" -Matt Easton, the king of nuance

@alfatazer_8991

3 жыл бұрын

King of Nuance, Context and thinly veiled innuendos.

@smilodnfatalis55

3 жыл бұрын

It's bigger than that Matt, it's large

Matt is the only lad on youtube that actually tries when making the Raid Shadow Legends ads. The goodest bean on the internet.

@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929

3 жыл бұрын

Many would rather make a joke about it, probably to keep people watching, internet historian is a good example. King Kontext just wants to get it over with, so he does it by the book. Most aren't too happy about doing a Raid ad in their video. Nothing wrong with it at all, money is good.

@blairbuskirk5460

3 жыл бұрын

No judgment on taking the corporate dollars but do try to avoid becoming a shill.

@oyblech8671

3 жыл бұрын

@@blairbuskirk5460 it's more about trying to avoid the promotion of literal gambling without any sort of notice (I've heard stuff like "not fit for children", "minors should consult their parents" and phrases of that nature added at the end - just to give a bit of a heads up). while I'm aware they won't allow people to convey that the game is basically micro transactions with voice acting in their sponsorships, a subtle little something would go a long way.

@cresspoobear1904

3 жыл бұрын

The BS add he does as well as the clear selling of his soul for the Chinese £ where he review their product in overly glowing terms really degrade Matt’s channel.

@VermylionMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@cresspoobear1904 a man's gotta feed his chirrens. It's so incredibly easy to skip an ad, I don't know why you'd be upset that Matt can make MORE videos

"Not a great grip. Quite French." Wait, I'm not watching Lindybeige, a I? I thought this was Matt's channel.

@hector_2999

3 жыл бұрын

😆🤣

@rjfaber1991

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but throughout his videos, Matt's opinions on French swords are quite consistent; great blades, decent guards, very mediocre grips.

@maximilianolimamoreira5002

3 жыл бұрын

Matt did some videos with Floyd, maybe he got a bit of his rantings about French people, never quite understood why Floyd is so overtly patriotic about Britain.

@MrBottlecapBill

3 жыл бұрын

@@rjfaber1991 I believe it's the brass Matt isn't a fan of. Basically because it's heavy and not as strong as steel. Easier to maintain, cheaper to produce and looks nicer polished up is why the french were probably fans.

@wierdalien1

3 жыл бұрын

@APassersby no, you miss the difference.

One more advantage of the yataghan blade design: It is way prettier than any other blade shape. Sexiest curves ever!

@maciejcocieto4361

3 жыл бұрын

Sexy curves for live!

@WolfKenneth

3 жыл бұрын

I like curves in my women but my swords have to be straight double edged two handed...

@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929

3 жыл бұрын

If you're into the skinny ones.

@jellekastelein7316

3 жыл бұрын

I'm partial to the pala belly myself. But yataghans are definitely quite pleasing to the eye.

@jeffreyroot6300

3 жыл бұрын

Mainz Gladii FTW! Double the curves and a beautiful point!

I like how Matt casually dropped a "yet again..." into a video about the yahtagan 🤣

Curious... I am chilean and here we used the term "yatagán" (writen in spanish), the old military guys referred to bayonets this way, specially long ones used in some Muser K98 rifles. In street slang there are still some old guys that use the term to refer to improvised or homemade long blades made by thugs. Interesting video, thanks for sharing!

@laszlogajdacs4202

3 жыл бұрын

That is interesting. I am Hungarian, and the term yatagan is sometimes used to refer to a sword used by a less than noble person. Like a bandit or savage enemy. A brutal weapon used by a barbaric person.

@cesarvidelac

3 жыл бұрын

@@laszlogajdacs4202 You are right, very much intereting! two countries so far away and such similar use of the term. My best regards! :)

Finally! I've been waiting for this video after Ian McCollum made a three minute short about yataghans two years ago. That video was not nearly long enough for such an extensive subject.

@tada_no_tetsusabi

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugh Surname_Xx420xX Every now and then, Ian will cover things that are ancillary to firearms, in this case the yataghan bayonet. He also did a segment about a US Army trowel shovel bayonet, and a quite funny one about the spike bayonet on the French MAS-36 rifle. Look up "French Finger Trap."

@jeffreyroot6300

3 жыл бұрын

@Hugh Surname_Xx420xX Yataghan sword bayonets in that case. He covers bayonets as they are available with his firearms, he and Karl at InRange did a good video on Great War melee weapons. Oh, and his infamous hat collection episode! He also did a series on battlefield tours and archeology of the Great War in France.

I'm an admirer of the yatagan and was happy to see a video about them. I was a little disappointed that you never featured any images of more traditional Ottoman examples. Besides providing better context for the sword in their more traditional form, they are also usually just lovely weapons. Something truly special in my opinion. Hope that didn't come off as too negative. I enjoyed the video exect for my nitpick.

Great video, and an elegant weapon. That "recurve" that encourages the push cut whilst keeping the point in line for thrusting is almost like half a "leaf shaped blade" from the bronze age. So, by losing the rear lobe of the leaf shape, you reduce weight which can then allow a bit more length. Interesting that the enhanced cutting, without losing the thrusting capability, was worked out so early, but then had to be reinvented a couple of thousand years later.

@davidmccormick7419

3 жыл бұрын

probably has something to do with armor, as armor gets better cutting gets less and less effective. but gunpowder kinda flipped that on its head, as armor got thicker to try to stop bullets it started to cover less and less of the body opening extremities up to cutting attacks again. or i could be dead wrong, never said or thought i was an expert.

@gusty9053

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidmccormick7419 Firearms indeed made armor really thick (like for the cavalry cuirass - only covering the chest area and even then it could only stop a pistol shot from close range while a musket could still punch through) or redundant all together, that is why infantry stopped using / being issued armor as a general rule.

@dianapennepacker6854

Жыл бұрын

Recurve helps with balance too and you get a good chopping or slicing action with a flick of the wrist. Especially since you have the weight of the spine. I prefer recurved or Kukri/Falcata type blades, and the Yataghan seem like a really good balance between it and straight sword. Always wanted one but all of them seem either sketchy or are wall hangers. I like the ones with a more pronounced curve. Also I'm pretty sure making these things is a bit more difficult compared to a straight sword or one that curves in a single direction.

My family actually is from the village where the Yatağan is said to have come from. Even today it is very well known in the region for the knives they make there. 7 years ago there was a symposium hosted at the local university on the sword. I know it had international participants but can't find much on it today. You can download an introductory on the bottom of this page here: www.pau.edu.tr/pau/tr/etkinlik/turk-kilici-yatagan-sempozyumu

I found a very interesting yataghan in my grandpa’s collection. It has a handle made of some sort of bone or ivory. The blade is also very slender and long. I haven’t seen anything like it before. Now I know a bit more.

About 40 years ago T bought a rather long and oddly-shaped bayonet at a flea market for $20CDN and have always wondered exactly what it was, so when you mentioned you were covering bayonets as well as swords i paused the video and went and got mine. I was VERY excited when you held up the 1856 pattern British yataghan bayonet to find it is identical to the one I have!

These swords were mostly used by janissaries and zeybek forces throughout Anatolia, zeybek were basically local militias or bandits (sometimes they were allied with the state sometimes not). They put up a fierce resistance against the allies when the invasion and occupation of our country began after WWI. The ğ in Yatağan is either skipped and the preceding vowel is lengthened or pronounced like a German ch without the vibration. Btw, there's a really cool photo of our country's founder Atatürk with a yatağan on his belt when he wore a janissary outfit to a ball when he was a military attache in Sofia.

Interesting thing about the kukri, if you thrust with the tip in line with the shoulder of the blade (instead of trying to thrust with it aligned with the hilt) your hand doesn't get pushed towards the blade, the grip is actually pushed up and back. So it's not optimized for the thrust, but through a quirk of shape, it thrusts safely.

I have an 1873 Chasspot Bayonet and I love it Those rectangular fullers make it so light, like an I-beam! So cool.

Need more yatagan on the production market...

@Gunsandbunsmma

Жыл бұрын

Try kult of athena

@erichusayn

Жыл бұрын

@@Gunsandbunsmma eh, no legit ones based on historical models there. Whats Slater got to say? Lol

I have picked up two French yataghan bayonets. Each was cheap, as the hilts had been butchered by removing the barrel loop and quillon. The brass went into my scrap box, and I fashioned new, comfortable hilts. They make wicked-looking short swords.

The sword you are showing in your hand is a sword similar to Yatagan, but only similar.It has different details from Yatagan. *The barrel of the Yatagan is 3-3.5 mm thick. **The cross-section from the middle is "T"-shaped.Therefore, in most cases, there is no need to make a blood trough separately. ***The hilt of a genuine Yatagan is not like the handle of a butcher knife, as in the sword you showed.The bottom part is called the "butterfly" and is divided into two parts in the form of short wings.Thus, the wet, sweaty or bloody hilt is prevented from being stripped from the hand. ****The sword you are holding in your hand looks almost straight. The true Yatagans are noticeably curved. I am a fan of Yatagan and I have studied real Yatagans in Topkapi Palace in Istanbul. Thank you for your video.

10:17 I was half-expecting Matt would chop his index finger off while demonstrating the qualities of the blade to "drive the point home".

Yataghans, Kopis', Flacatas and Kukris are probably the most sexy looking one handed weapons out there.

@anthonylamonica8301

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't do any real research, but I suspect that these one-handed weapons do, in fact, share some sort of common ancestry. THEORY TIME: Consider: It is probable that the Kopis (Ancient Greece) was at least partially inspired by the earlier Khopesh (Ancient Egypt) due to trade across the Mediterranean Sea, which was in turn inspired most likely from some even more ancient battle axe. The Falcata (Iberian Peninsula) would have been inspired by the Kopis as well since the Greeks were prolific sailors of the Mediterranean during their pre-Classical and Classical periods--there's a reason the Strait of Gibraltar was called the Pillars of Heracles, a very-much Greek hero. Along comes Alexander the Great of Macedonia, who promptly added his neighbors to the south to his forces, including their war-gear. They then went on a merry little crusade to the east, making it through the almost the entirety of what would become the Ottoman Empire, and past the Indus River (the traditional border of modern India). This introduced the Kopis to the Middle East and India. The people of the Indus River Valley probably introduced the Kopis to their neighbors to the north-east, the peoples of the Himalayas. These folks likely turned the Kopis into the inspiration for the Kukri. The Middle-Easterners would have likely come up with some predecessor to the Yataghan around this time as well. Centuries later, the Mongols took over a huge swathe of Eurasia, including most of what Alexander the Great had conquered previously. With them they probably took some variation of Chinese Dao, a few of which ALSO have a slight recurve to align the point to the hilt, and these, combined with whatever the Kopis had inspired, eventually resulted in what we would recognize as a Yataghan. THEORY OVER.

@bretalvarez3097

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonylamonica8301 I've heard this theory before and it's definitely a possibility and I personally believe it. Also the seax of the dark ages is apparently part of the family tree of sightly forward curved one handed weapons. Apparently the Huns introduced a forward curved knife that they picked up in central Asia that the Germanic tribes picked up and evolved it into the seax after making contact with the Huns when the Huns invaded central Europe.

I've only had a couple lessons in using the yataghan, but I fell in love with it. The "ears" rest the wrist. The angle of traditional ones has the point directly on line when the hand is at its natural angle. Wonderful weapon.

The Remington M62 bayonet for their Zouave rifle is of this same style. I believe some were used on Remington Rolling Blocks later. The grip is a brass eagle head.

So happy to see you finally do a video on this topic. I've been fascinated with the yataghan ever since I first saw The Mummy (the 1999 Steven Sommers one), where Ardeth uses one of these swords.

For someone that gestures with their hands so much while talking about swords, it is good you still have all your fingers.

There's also a place in Turkey named Batman, I wouldn't read too much into it.

@Tomcat_ha

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why people still flock to our village to get their knives ;-)

@viktorkukuruzovic5332

3 жыл бұрын

and there's a guy in Indonesia whose name is Batman bin Superman, take from it what you will

Yataghan bayonets were adopted by Britain/France/Denmark/and Austria for use on muzzle loaders so to give you clearance when using a ramrod the same principal was first used on the French 1842 bayonet and then the British 1853 socket bayonet PS still collecting bayonets 59 years later .

Like to think my previous comment influenced this to some degree. The Turkish Peabody 1874 bayonet is even bigger and beefier than the Enfield one. Has the Enfield sword bayonet style grip but with the forward-hooking Chassepot style guard. Mine had never been service sharpened; sharpened it myself. Even as an amateur sharpener and at cutting it compensates phenomenally. The leather grip scales are unfortunately fraying away. Definitely my favorite weapon I own. Thanks Matt! Learned quite a bit!

It dosen't matter how many times I hear Mr. Easton say the blade isn't sharp. I still wince when he slides it across his finger.

When you look closely, Matt seems to be a bit tired. Hope he's not under the weather. :)

@scholagladiatoria

3 жыл бұрын

I am unfortunately! Mostly just because I have a one year old and a seven year old, and lots of work :-)

@robh5492

3 жыл бұрын

What a trooper you are Matt. No shame in being tired. @@scholagladiatoria

@Evan-rj9xy

3 жыл бұрын

@@scholagladiatoria Get well soon, Matt!

@gregorstamejcic2355

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, mrs. Easton's cuppa will sort him right out!

I must say i really appreciate the way swords and history is explained on this schannel!

😍😍😍 That's really all I can say. Really love the looks of the French yatagan bayonet!

One of my favorite swords. Such a cool and effective design.

20:08 "you have to do THIS down your barrel"

I saw some in the Austrian HGM (Military) Museum last year, as bayonets army and wondered about them. I think it was for the k&k-monarchy army, although they were few models compared to straight blades. Thanks for covering them! I am a great fan of recurve blades, I even carry a folding recurve knife for daily choirs.

French bayonet exactly like that was also my first antique sword. I still have it too.

very detailed explanation , thanks ,.

Love the video. I'm glad you are spreading accurate knowledge about this! More Ottoman/Cossack weapons please!

Loving these recent uploads.

Slightly forward curved blades meet the target at a more flat angle, so they transfer more energy straight onto the target, rather than at an angle where energy is moving away from the target, ie in a draw cut. You're essentially cleaving the blade straight into whatever you hit, instead of pulling it across, which tends to create shallower cuts.

Great explanation - thanks!

I'd love to see a swordmaker make three swords that are all the same except for curvature. One being forward curving, one being straight, and one being backward curving.

Excellent from start to finish, Matt. None of that dotting every single i or crossing every single t as I've seen you labour over SO often. Sat down is also better, it stops that incessant 2 step fore/aft waltz that you use in standing presentations. Hugely fact based and massively informative, this. For me this was easily the best video i've seen you make. 10/10, easy.

My brother has a French yatagon bayonet it’s awesome also the French also used the yatagon blade shape on the laguiole pocket knife

Great video as always! an image popped into my head when the lengths of the rifles and the yataghan bayonets were mentioned: when combined it would make the weapon a mix of a greatsword and a polearm, making it both a better chopping and piercing weapon for close combat in an open field and a pretty good counter against cavalry in general. i wonder if there are any detailed records of it being used in that way...

@gregewing3916

3 жыл бұрын

From what I remember the military history class, even in the beginning of World War 1 the French generals considered a rifle primarily a means to deliver a bayonet

@richard6133

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregewing3916 I don't know about the French, but the Russians had that sort of philosophy of use.

@gregewing3916

3 жыл бұрын

@@richard6133 iirc the Russian Nobility and Military followed French ideas very closely

This video has the best Raid: Shadow Legends I've ever seen. I didn't know about the motion capture animation. That's pretty cool!

Thanks for the book! I didn't know about that one.

Another fine video. Great context.

Based Matt doing one of his first paid promos I think. I wanted to watch the video mainly because of that. It's a sign he is growing as a KZreadr. Thats so nice.

Fascinating, shopping for Yataghans now hah!

Such a cool looking blade.

Bought a rare aftermarket mini-sabre. Not able to place it's rework but it's a Chassepot 1871 Yataghan bayonet blade, set in a cast iron D-guard briguet handle. This is unlike any other handle I've seen on Chassepot Fabrique Imperial bayonet blades. It has a few shrapnel dents in its fuller and leafs me to believe it saw time in the Franco/Prussian war before it ended up in the ebay inventory of someone in Australia a century later.

@emanuelecoscarella7920

3 жыл бұрын

Funny, I've bought a similar short sabre here Australia. It's clearly a re-pourposed Yataghan bayonet, set in cast iron D guard as well. A. & A.S from Germany 1860 circa. www.henrysmilitarycollectables.com.au/products/sold-items/unidentified-french-or-german-short-sword-circa-1860-s-sold.aspx

A few videos ago a made a comparison between European and Japanese edged weapons i was wrong I meant Dagger to Wakizashi, Arming Sword to Katana, and Ôdachi to Longsword

When my Dad was 15 (78 years ago), he spent his weeks pay on a 1866 Chasepot bayonet (with the metal scabbard). When i was in high school, he strapped it to the back of a very large doll and smuggled it into Canada from Dublin. He was worried that it would get seized.

I have a French chassepot bayonet as well. And I have to agree with about the handle. It’s even worse with that button as a lefty. Mine doesn’t have matching serial numbers with the scabbard but it’s still a cool thing to have around.

Yatağan baba was how the sword and the place in Turkey got their names. He was a blacksmith in the Ottoman Empire and in Turkish his name basically means someone who lays around. I do believe the Yatağan got it's shape and design from previous blades such as the kopis though.

Thank you so very much Matt for this video I have a great interest in Khyber knives and yatagan. Something strangely alluring about their design. But unfortunately there's not a whole lot out there on them compared to Japanese or european swords especially. So your videos on them have been a great help on information and where to find more information

right; glad to hear that the yataghan had some extensive, objective, combat testing, evaluation, as, i've always thought it extremely impressive, as re your points; oh, nabbed that memoir, too, thx

One of my favourite knives in my collection is the xl cold steel vaquero, has the recurve similar to a yataghan

The recurve essentially creates point alignment with the wrist in stabbing. In fighting this is surprising as to hand eye coordination. A chopper blade has bad point alignment as a shorter weapon and creates a miss!

Another interesting point about the Yataghan bayonet is the British kept it for sergeants and above, even after fielding the Martini-Henry breach loader. I'm guessing this was out of a sense of tradition, since all infantrymen were now carrying the exact same rifle. As I understand, the Yataghan wasn't very popular by this time, as it was said to be less durable and more prone to breaking than the standard triangular spike issued to corporals and below. Matt can probably answer whether this is actually true or not. Of course, given that there were only four sergeants and one colour sergeant out of a company of roughly 100 soldiers, it's not like there were a lot of these bayonets issued.

Did he drop a Lindybeige reference with his comment about whether British or French is better is the subject of another channel? 🤷‍♂️🤔🤣

It also seems like a better tool for infantry out of combat, chop up light brush and the such. Wouldn’t cut a tree down, but maybe lighter branches.

For unusual BLADE variant of the Yataghan consider the Armenian Yataghan, which resemble the Old Egyptian Khepesh or the fictional Dothraki swords, as well as the Zeybek yataghan, some of which resemble ancient Thraikian rhomphaiai (being long, thin, and with concave edge.).

I have 2 Spanish Artillery Swords from the 1880s that have yataghan blades. They are rather heavy and thicker than bayonets. I think they were mostly used for clearing brush like a bolo machete would be. I surmise that an armory in Toledo Spain had a bunch of unfinished yataghan surplus bayonet blade blanks they used to make these swords, rather than throw them away.

Brilliant channel, Matt! Thank you for showing this beauuutiful blade! I've always loved this type of recurve blades! There is some sort of bayonet called a sword bayonet, french I think, 1880s summin, with the same recurve blade. ... right you just showed it... note to self: watch all of it before commenting... lol

One thing that I have come to consider when looking at recurve blades is that they are practically half gladii in blade shape. This also makes sense to me in a cyclical way, since there seems to be a consensus that the gladius was adopted from the falcata. What I am unsure of is why one would have that blade profile on one edge vs. on both... Any ideas?

@nurisevgili3217

3 жыл бұрын

On one edged swords that bends towards the cutting edge side is mostly for having more chopping power like axes or kukri and also things like you can use your other hand to assist and force more power into, you can half-sword easier, it's cheaper, faster, easier to produce and if its gets more with t-shape kinda way its makes the sword much sturdier and of course why would you add another cutting edge when the weapon is not made for or able to used with two edges; I mean just look at khopesh or falx would you use the other side of the blade (false edge sometimes called), the whole shape of the blade and grip would let you get a good cut anyway with this kinda swords and alike. But in swords like a scimitar, messer, or katana its more edge alignment(to have better cutting power/ability) and some of the other reasons above. Also, gladius for me was a more thrusting sword always so ı wouldn't actually compare them.

If possible I'd love to see you break down how a fight between (generally) more heavily armored european soldiers and (generally) more lightly armored ottoman soldiers/janissaries would possibly have gone in terms of weapons/armor/possibly martial arts styles/etc

Another great video - well done Matt! I have long been a fan / interested in the yataghan and thus had been hoping you would take up the topic. I really appreciate your analysis (and will check out the good Colonel’s book) as I am actually writing a fantasy novel in which the protagonist side are famous for their yataghan style sword / sabres. Two quick questions: would you consider doing a test cutting video with a yataghan? And what about a test thrusting video? Is test thrusting even a thing? I have never seen it, but it seems relevant to HEMA. Oh, and on final question. Is there distal taper to any of these blades? I confess I was expecting you to mention it because - after context - I believe your favorite thing is distal taper! 😂 All in good fun. You’re the best mate. Keep up the good work.

First experiences of love of blades for Matt.

Entertaining and informative video yataghan.

It is a very lovely type of bayonet/sword. I own a danish m1867 remington bayonet myself so very interesting video.

I'd love to see a video on the North African Flyssa, which I suspect was also influenced by the Yataghan. Both are such beautiful blades.

So, how would you design bayonet hilts? I've been thinking about this for some time. For long arms that do not necessarily have a bayonet lug built in, do you think a designer of a new bayonet should consider an accompanying accessory that can be affixed to the firearm?

You have an amazing Afghan knife, thank you for the highly educational video.

I saw one of these last year in Croatia, and it had a weird grip with almost wings coming out at the pommel. Also, as a thrusting weapon, what would stop the hand riding up onto the blade?

Also you may look at this in an evolutional perspective: UNRIVALED TURKISH SWORD WITH A UNIQUE DESIGN: “YATAGHAN” Prof. Dr. Tarık Baykara Link: openaccess.dogus.edu.tr/xmlui/bitstream/handle/11376/3217/tbaykara_2017.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y There's also another theory about the naming of the blade. Meaning of "yatağan" is “the one who usually lies down” or "tend to lie down". The blade generally worn horizontally between the layers of wearer's sash in front of the wearer's body. So it tends to lie horizontally because of the positional tendancy. It was also a dress piece in civil life. Because of these reasons people also may call it "yatağan". But there is no historical reference about that.

I just did a quick search in the comment section, it is a little surprising that no one talked about the guard at all.

Seems like at the point of inflection, the blade is parallel to the handle and out in front a bit in similar geometry to an axe. I doubt the weight distribution is similar but should have some chopping capability at that point. In addition to the effect on either side of the inflection.

I know it was fictional but I loved the Yataghan Bladed Sword carried by the raider leader in the 1999 remake of The Mummy. Plus it was just a cool movie with great guns. Also I have the Yataghan bayonnet for my Remington 1863.

Yataghan is the ancient Greek sword named "kopis". Thank you!!!

Would the forward curve of the kukri make it easier to hold onto the hilt when thrusting? It seems that most of the force will go sideways instead of pulling your hand onto the blade.

It's like a single edged "leaf" shaped blade.

Nice timing, I just bought a Chassepot bayonet

There seems to be some similarities in looks between the yataghan and the shashka. Is there some kind of relation between the two weapons?

@M.M.83-U

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, steppe nomads.

@MrPanos2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@M.M.83-U Unlikely in both cases. Caucasian shaska have a unique evolution native to the North Caucasus, related to Circassians and Dagestanis. "Yataghan" is such a broad term that it covers blades of various forms within the Ottoman empire, of different origin

@MrPanos2000

3 жыл бұрын

There really arent. You seem to be confused because the knife in the video is some British made example and as a result by no means one of the original yataghan styles. A shaska isnt any more similar to any yataghan than it is to any other sword of East Europe or West Asia

@acb1511

Жыл бұрын

Only how they are carried. The blade of a shashka is that of a sabre.

My only personal experience with these weapons is a gorgeous (and rather short) example on display in Middle Eastern Gallery, at the Royal Ontario Museum up til now I always thought of them as knives rather than swords, but clearly I have more to learn.

Is the french yatagan bayonet pipe backed or is it the fuller that make it look like it?

Looks like a traditional Filipino sword called Dahong Palay

It would really make a great survival/wilderness tool also.

LOL! :P I am glad that you said it was not "Sharp" at the start... :) Plus, it is not just Physics, but what feels comfortable to the human condition... I do not mean to lecture BTW, sorry if it sounded that way? It just came out that way in my mind... Cheers Enjoy your content a lot ;)

beautiful blade !!!!!!

You should do a video on the axes the romans used to defeat the Germanic knights. Idk what they were called they wore Lorica segmentata like armor and crusader like helmets.

Mat we need to see you duel wielding yatagan bayonets in the garden!

The name probably came from that town because if you look at earlier Turkic sabres you could see similarities (it was probably an ancestor of it) I think when Ottomans saw German Messer, liked the Falchion choppiness and wanted the keep scimitar type curviness then it slowly evolved into yataghan. When it became something completely different from any other sword did know so they give it a new name. Also, the place that Matt talk about was an important military base during Suleiman (the Magnificant) conquest of Rhodes so probably that place was the yataghan were adopted/implemented or was the place that it was producing the sword (they still produce that weapon still on that part of Turkey by the way). And I don't think the name came from the bentness of the sword since almost all of the Turkish sword had a curve/bent anyway so that's not differentiating feature.

@MrPanos2000

3 жыл бұрын

Turkic sabres were... sabres. They had outside curve not a recurve belly shape. Recurve swords are native to the East Med/West Asia region and have nothing to do with Asian Nomads. The Turkish yataghans are but an evolution of that

@nurisevgili3217

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrPanos2000 Yes, I agree that's why ı said it was classic nomad cavalry sabre and then slowly evolved into ''falchion like'' while keeping the tip of the blade like nomadic sabre design that could be used for thrusting and cutting rather than slashing which is the lower part of the body of the evolved into. And my point was mostly there was and already existing sword when it slowly became something else they give it a new name and Matt also say that. And nomadic sabres also had a small metal ear to the end of the blade had a better chopping power (like yataghan) while Early East Med/West Asian Scimitari type weapons doesn't have that. for example: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Pala_type_of_kilij.jpg/125px-Pala_type_of_kilij.jpg

@MrPanos2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@nurisevgili3217 Recurve weapons already existed in West Asia. Nothing to do with Nomads. This weapon didnt evolve from sabres and there are no yataghans will yelmans/broad foibles

@nurisevgili3217

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrPanos2000 I am sorry but ı am having a real problem understand what you mean first of all why already existing weapon would contradict what ı said, when recurve weapons already existed, what do you mean when you say recurve weapon actually ı looked upon the word recurve sword first thing come up is fantasy, yataghan, kopis and Hungarian sabres (which is also originates from nomadic Hun sabres) and ı didn' t find any type of sword in Anatolia and western Persia and Mashriq (pls give me example) and you know Ottoman Turks are descendant Central Asian Nomads (i mean if you say recurve weapons already existed West Asia after Turks settled in West Asia you're accepting my point about you can say nomadic sabres somewhat has a recurve blade and if it even isn't like it has something do with Nomads you see). I also didn't find any clue how yataghan come to be internet doesn't know that historians doesn't know that and I just speculate about it. İf you also sure about yataghan didn't evolve from sabres why didn't you say that in your first reply comment. my low level english didn't letme understand when you say yelmans/broad foibles.

@jeffreyroot6300

3 жыл бұрын

@@nurisevgili3217 Xenophon in his treatise on being a cavalry general advised using an Anatolian style single edged blade like a Sica . My memory may be failing me, I think the translation used the word Sica, which in Roman times referred to a slender recurved blade very much like a Yataghan.

I believe the Greeks adopted the blade design for their knives in the 18th to 19th Century as well for part of their dress dagger.

I haven't even watched this but I approve of the increased messer presence on this channel.

DM: " All right. The blacksmith has agreed to make you a blade out of the meteoric iron. Exactly what kind of weapon do you want?" Me: "I'll go with the yataghan." DM: "The-- what again?" Me: "Well, you know those single-edged elvish sabers with a slight S-curve? In the human tongue of the eastern kingdoms they're called 'yataghans'."

To me, the Khyber knife looks like a giant kitchen knife. Because of the t-shaped blade it probably doesn't cleave right through things very well I imagine, but if it's used in a way similar to a tulwar or shamshir it doesn't matter too much. I don't think you would chopping off any parts with it, but a slash from it could cut as deeply as the blade is wide, which has to be something like 3 or 4 inches.

Matt is the Yataghan blade superior to the Wilkinson 1845 blade ?