I have Yamaha PCI and ISA cards and they're fantastic. I've been a Roland/ESS guy for a long time but Yamaha has been winning me over. The XG MIDI is like having a MU-80 inside of your system.

Thanks for Yamaha 724 driver,your page is only one where I could find it.Thanks man.

this is pretty cool, most of these captures I've never heard the sounds these games could produce since all we had at the time was a pc speaker.

Just received mine in the mail, excited to get it set up tonight. I've just recently built my first Win 9x/DOS machine and have had issues with the drivers for the on board audio in DOS so this should be a big help. Thanks for the tip, Phil!

I have a DS-XG for 25 years now and it is still being used for the digital I/O once in a while. The driver I have was not released for long because it can record stuff that has SCMS, Sony did not like that probably. I managed to get the driver from some very sweet Austrian guy who was kind enough to email it to me in parts. I still keep three Pentium 4 systems in working condition just to be able to use that sound card every now and then.

I have the same card (currently in my drawer) and I was really looking forward to this review. I had an issue of driver freeze with MIDI devicee plugged in though. Need to get that thing out and test again :)

What a great option for a dos win98 win xp machine! Thanks for yet another great video Phil

Thanks Phil, That cards sound just RIGHT on the FM synth !

Great review, Phil! :-D

I used to have a Maxi Sound Fortissimo with the same XG chip in it. I really remember being blown away by how good the MIDI music sounded! I may have to buy another one :)

Incredible! Some of us out there like to push the limits with the fastest systems we can for those super demanding high resolution, purely software rendered DOS games and these boards always leave ISA behind. To not only have SB compatibility, but also true OPL and then Yamaha XG support as whip cream?? Thanks for highlighting this card, Phil. I waited on the on the Audician 32s and missed out... but I jumped on this one -- grabbed two!

Phil - Thanks for the review. Cards have started shipping.

@EthanAQueen

6 жыл бұрын

One other thing to note. The unboxed cards also come with the driver/software CD and manual as is stated in the listings. Thanks all for the orders so far. I am shipping them out as fast as I can.

Thank you phil! I have almost the exact same system specs and i was trying to get the onboard via audio to work for awhile with dos or dos mode. Nothing worked. Then i found your video and i bought this card from the same seller. He still had some. Needless to say, I have sound now in dos!! I'm also using your ms dos mode pack under win 98. Works great. Thanks man.

@davidfranklinv2860

4 жыл бұрын

I spoke too soon. Cd sound doesnt work and then all sound stopped working very soon. After many hrs of messing with different settings. My keyboard and mouse stopped working. Pretty sure its because the system is a pos compaq presario oem build. Guess ill start over with new components. A lot of the issues root from the fact on this compaq, the Bios is basically mental. It doesnt have a real bios. No options. And very very simple.

super nice that Yamaha and aopen keep the drives available, nice video.

I used to have one of them, I really loved it for it's excellent hardware midi playback.

Thanks for the Update Phil, I bought one one these [Cobra] the last time you had the video up. Easy to set up and works well in windows 98.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Nice!

That system is running perfectly 🙂

Great vid very informative pci cards can be a pain with dos game but thanx for showing another option :-)

Very nice card mate, great insightful review. This one I could see me using as a main dos board for sure. Maybe if I ever upgrade my windows 98 machine from a Slot 1 pentium 3 which still has ISA slots so I use those board like the old ESS audiodrive. Excellent video as always can't wait for more.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

I do want to look at other PCI cards in the future, so watch the space :D

This sound chip is what is used as an integrated sound device in my Dell t700r motherboard. The DOS compatibility is indeed amazing and makes this dell board very special. I have been pleasantly surprised at what I can throw at the Sound Blaster emulator (including the setup utility for Earthsiege and Witchhaven!). It's pretty dang good

I was literally about to install Windows 98 on a VM to play around with old dos and windows software, so thanks for reminding me to copy the install CD to the HDD first, a very handy tip for saving time.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Yea it saves a lot of time, and Windows often asks to insert the CD otherwise...

I've finished my build, Phil. Asrock 775i65g, Pentium E5800, Yamaha YMF744, $16, 16GB SSD, Win98SE, GeForce 6800 GT. Perfect.

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! How does the 6800 GT work out for you? Personally I see it more as a windows XP card.

I'm building a VIA EPIA ITX build with the same soundcard now, thanks for the tip :) It has the same VT8235 chipset.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Nice :)

Looooooooool just found the same card like 10 minutes ago, then your vid pops up XD

@Bubsy123

Жыл бұрын

the same

I used to have one of those, it was great

I'm excited by the footage - this does sound like an awesome GM card! Think I want to try it now!

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Under DOS, you can connect an external MIDI device as well!

@betamax80

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm working MPU-401 port? That's handy! I heard as much on the forums.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Yea so you could use a -Sound Canvas- YAMAHA MU80 :D

@CWarren410

Жыл бұрын

@@philscomputerlab So only the YAMAHA MU80 works with the MPU-401 port?

@philscomputerlab

Жыл бұрын

@@CWarren410 Why?

A-Open was like Asus back in the day when it came to making add-on sound cards. They would put in a bit of effort to be a viable value solution and they've even tried some interesting concepts such as vacuum tubes on their motherboards for a theoretical boost in sound quality

@BeerBaron23

6 жыл бұрын

Vacuum tube amplification on a mainboard? That's awesome!

Lol i was given few those for free back in the day sure brings back memorys.

I think you opened a new window of cheap Windows 98 and DOS gaming PCs for many old-school gamers. You can build a PCI/AGP based PC much cheaper than an ISA and add a decent ISA sound card on top of that. It would be interesting how this performs on later generations of Athlons. How does it sound compared to the Audician 32 Plus? And big thanks to listing the games you used. I couldn't remember the name of Raptor but I do remember playing it.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Something like a Geode NX could be ideal as you can control the multiplier. Definitely something I want to investigate. The Geode is basically an Athlon XP-M.

Hey, Phil. As you're testing with a VIA chipset, any chance of testing an ESS Solo 1? I'd be interested in your take contrasting it with the YMF744.

one of the best dos sound card ever and very high amplifier power in WINDOWS 98. I'VE GOT IT IN LIKE EXTENDED VERSION OF THE CARD. CARD FOR TWO PCI SLOTS! SOUND IN DOOM IN THIS GAME IS AMAZING

great FM+wavetable card

Real OPL over PCI!! Love it!

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Yea nothing beats the real thing :D

Fun fact! I bought and love this sound card, but when I first stuck it in I would get a hard lock up when installing drivers. What solved it was when I moved the card to a different pci slot it would fail to see it or lock up in a different place when installing the driver. Turns out my salvaged motherboard that had spent years outside had dirty pci slots. After inserting and removing the card about 20 times I had cleared the slot contacts enough and now it works flawlessly.

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

Nice.

You didn't mention the PC/PCI solder pads, to which you can easily add a 2x3 header and connect to the PC/PCI connector on the motherboard, if it has one... That will allow you to not need dsdma.exe, thus no emm386.exe either (or other EMM managers such as jemmex). Via chipsets and in general Athlon motherboards don't support PC/PCI, but many Intel motherboards of the era do. I have found motherboards up to chipset 845 supporting it. I have several Yamaha 7x4 PCI cards, and all either have the header or the solder pads for it, and all work just as well when connected by SBlink (PC/PCI) to a motherboard that supports it. Also, depending on the VIA chipset you may be able to use DDMA which doesn't need dsdma.exe either. You need to edit the setupds program in a hex editor to alter the PCI ID list to allow for that to work... I have posted about it on Vogons a while ago. It has worked for me with chipsets up to Apollo Pro 133T and KT133A (DDMA and PC/PCI are dependent on the southbridge, and the 2 chipsets above use the same).

@ericmdk

3 жыл бұрын

The i850 sucks with this soundcards!!! :p

Wow this is great !

Wow. Didn't think I've ever heard the Doom theme sounding that good.

@FoxMulder78

6 жыл бұрын

In my experience, Yamaha sound cards have very clean, clear and punchy sound output. :D

I have this card and it works really well with Final Fantasy VII. The game allows you to select XG under the midi data section (not the same as using the xg softsynth) and it sounds fantastic with the card.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Now they just got to release it on GOG :)

I had yamaha 719 isa, it was perfect

Interesting video, last year i bought an AOpen "AW744 Pro" , i never tried it, i will use your drivers and instructions to see if get the same compatibility. BUT i think that the difference with the PRO version that i have is that this one has digital toslink audio out.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Oh nice, yea there are versions with digital output.

It's amazing how things change over the years. I can pick one of these up for the measly sum of $200 now. Haha.

Lol some weeks ago I ask you about this card and if you make a new video about it because thought it was the best PCI sound card for dos. You did not like the card then, what changed your mind to test the card again? Also I could recommend to try the pci/pc also known as sb link connector. That is the best known solution to "emulate" DMA. I am glad you give the soundcard a second chance.

Is there any way to get Duke 3D (and Redneck Rampage) running with this card in Windows? Under pure DOS it's fine after getting everything set up, but whenever I try to initialize the Soundblaster audio under the setup program in Windows, the system will typically just crash. I can play Duke 3D under DOS if I really need to, but it kind of sucks to not have General MIDI support while in DOS, since it sounds fantastic on this card.

Hi all , i have ymf 754r on my old computer and never think about that and since i watched this video, i love to fire that sound up again!

This card is a great one-in.all package, especially for an DOS only computer. But for the time I'll stay with a DB50XG mounted on a Vortex 2, albeit it requires Windows.

I have a labway ymf724 card with spdif output. It sounds nice

i had one of these... Seriously if you play Final Fantasy 7 for the PC you are given the option to install a special sound driver to make it sound like the playstation. If you have this card its not needed it uses a special mode to produce incredible midi sound.

Hey Phil, don't forget that PowerYMF can unlock a lot of stuff for the cards in Win9X. Especially so if you use the VxD drivers. I know the program in the past few years had its registration code made available to the public. It worked well with my SE440BX-2's built-in YMF-740C audio. However, you only need DSDMA if your motherboard and card do not support the SB-Link port or can do so over the PCI bus. So.. you do lose out on the ability to play non-speed-sensitive games that refuse to run on EMM386..

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reminder. What sort of things can you do with that tool again? I should upload it to the website.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Ok I found all the PowerYMF files and banks, they are uploaded to the website.

@NightSprinter

6 жыл бұрын

PhilsComputerLab I know you can load other banks, enable features like SondiusXG.

@primus711

6 жыл бұрын

i left the link above didnt see someone else mentioned but here it is again web.archive.org/web/20080408103257/www.yohng.com:80/powerymf/ work great for setting audio channels back in my streaming days

Well, going to give this one a try. It's probably better than my current SB PCI128 card. I wonder if it's actually technically possible to make a PCI sound card with SB16 compatibility that does not require a protected mode driver (i.e. needing EMM386) so it could work with demos like Second Reality. I wish I knew where to look for relevant documents on PCI PNP configuration and so on.

I chose Diamond Monster Sound M80 because DOS systems use MPU401, midi sounds, audio music in stereo quality with hardware acceleration, but Sound Blaster Live 5.1 is of good enough quality for less money.

GREAT MIDI CARD ever

phil quick question, where do you get your retro games? i have been looking for a way to start my own old school build, i would like to focus on early 2000 games, like nfs underground and a few others, but have no idea where to get those kinds of games today, any tips or pointers as to where you got your own programs and games, if you cant divulge that information due to legal reasons that is fine, anyway, love the videos!

Phil, it would be nice if you could identify the titles depicted in the video with a simple text overlay next time. I often wonder which specific game it is you're showing.

Very interesting card, am.i getting it right that it also contains a hardware ROMpler synth compatible with XG MIDI? If so that's actually pretty neat. I do wonder though, since you mentioned the compatibility with NT line of Windows systems (XP), whether there's any chance for it to run under Windows 7 or 8.1 as well.

Hey Phil, could you give me hint which DOS sound card you would recommend? I watched some of your videos and I have a Soundblaster AWE 64 Gold ISA at home. Just bought a 8MB expansion for it. Would love to buy the 32MB expansion, but it seems nowhere to be found. :( The DOS time is long gone for me and now I like to rebuild a 486 PC for my channel and a review. The sound card should sound great in every way and with midi, but also should be easy to configure. I guess the AWE 64 is not that easy.

Nice Video

You show us these Sound board works in DOS Protected Mode of Win98, but is it work in pure DOS, eg. MS-DOS 6.22? Thanks for your attention.

just bought one . that bat file you made do you run it every time you run dos? Cant wait for mine to arrive I see that its working in blake stone one of my favorite fps's

I think I had this card or something similar, it surely was a quadrophonic card with sensaura and ofc yamaha xg midi

very excellent!!!!!!

Hey Phil, Whats the cpu overhead like on these cards for sound blaster support in DOS? Much the same as an SBLive or is it hardware supported?

Can you explain me how to enter in that's Dos configuration utility of the card? Or maybe change the configuration of the dos box in w98

Got this card and popped it into an Epox MVP3G-M motherboard. I downloaded the DOS driver pack and the modified setupds.exe (setupds-via-vt82c686a-b.7z) from your site. I've only tested pure DOS so far, but it's working perfectly. :)

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@neppy-chan9297

5 жыл бұрын

I've been able to get it mostly working with that version of setupds, but it's only allowing me to set it to DMA 0. Maybe it's an issue with one of the integrated components, but I'm really not sure. I do have integrated sound and legacy audio disabled, so I don't know what else it could be.

Did I miss it or did you already do the the older computers? Like the IBM 5150 5160 5170 and model 90 would be cool to see how to put them together.

YAMAHA XG YMF 724F-V also have OPL3 chip ?

It's a shame you can't use the XG midi for native dos games, this card would be almost perfect otherwise.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Many GM games will work just fine in a MS-DOS prompt. And you can always get a YAMAHA MU and connect it to the gameport.

>VIA chipset >Windows 98 *PTSD flashbacks* "no, not again. Never again..."

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I've had nothing but great experiences.

@ZeroHourProductions407

6 жыл бұрын

In a way, i was relieved when my first pc was with an amd 751 chipset for slot a, except for the fact that it degraded itself to agp 1x on anything but an ancient agp card. I've never not had problems with VIA chipsets. With Windows 98 i was reformatting daily, and i had to underclock just to not get a bsod every five minutes. More recently with the socket 939 opteron and the a8v deluxe, thr install would instantly degrade itself to a bsod kill cycle the moment i installed the chipset drivers. The only part of my old nv7-133r motherboard that failed was the usb2.0 suppprt, which was per an add-on VIA chip. Windows would recognize and install the driver, but soon as i plugged anything at all into them, i would get another spectacular crash. Frankly, I'm more amazed that *your* experience is as smooth as your videos imply.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

I knew to stay away from the KT133 and 266, but the 266A has worked really well for me.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

We can now also benefit from having the latest and greatest drivers with all bugs ironed out.

@ZeroHourProductions407

6 жыл бұрын

PhilsComputerLab unfortunately that didn't help me with said Opteron PC. Nothing was, or is, saving that.

The SETUPDS utility offers different options on older versions. Some of these are enabled in older versions and disabled in newer ones. I wonder what the difference is? I've had great experiences with both the 724 and 754. The Windows drivers are rock solid if you get the right version too. I had to find some from Toshiba.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

I've uploaded a bunch of different versions, especially the DOS drivers, onto our website, so hopefully this covers a wide range of setups.

@kamerat7689

6 жыл бұрын

The options that are available depends on the chipset of the motherboard it's coupled with. You can change the PCI id's in SETUPDS with a hex editor to make the VIA 686B southbridge work in DDMA mode for instance.

I love the Dagger of Amonra, best game ever.... nice demo, but..... can you turn on the Yamaha MIDI synth for DOS game?

@philscomputerlab

4 жыл бұрын

No you can't unfortunately. Only from a MS-DOS prompt, but not from MS-DOS mode or DOS 6.22.

I bought one of these and after installing the win98 (win) drivers, the card instantly locks up the PC. Fresh install of Win98SE. Southbridge is a VIA VT82C686A. EDIT: Fixed with the VIA 4in1 drivers on Phil's website. Thx Phil.

Sounds like they use the same wavetable patch set as the DB50XG daughterboard and their SYXG50 software synthesizer. Can you use the wavetable in games? Just setup midi device to General Midi and go?

@Romerco77

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but only under Windows 98 dos box, not in pure DOS environment.

What a shame that the model sold lacks digital output, CD audio digital input and SB-Link especially since all those features are there on the PCB but the parts are not soldered on.

Hey nice review., but I wish you would have at least previewed the xg sounds on the chip from a musicians point of view as apposed to just t hose cheesy old video game style fm type sounds since it is said that the xg sounds are excellent. Do they sound like the pro Yamaha MU SERIES midi sound modules? A side by side comparison would be good.....

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

AFAIK there are no DOS games supporting XG, and in real DOS, the Synth doesn't work anyway. But you can connect an external MU through the gameport! This will then work with all DOS games supporting General Midi.

Done everything but when I type dsdma it says bad command or file name. Ymf744 works great in win98, can't get it to work in dos.

I have 2 questions: Which version of Duke Nukem 3D have you used for this video ? I´m asking because first version and shareware of Duke Nukem 3D was known to crash in the second level after you blow up the big building and jump down into the sewers behind it due to the fact that the PCI system transfers data differently than the older ISA slots...and YES i know 3D realms released a patch for this problem... I also had problems running The Lion King game with my Windows 98 computer and a Soundblaster 128 PCI card, it crashes already in the first level and this seems to be also because of PCI/ISA data transferring differences, maybe you can test this if it works for your Yamaha sound card ?? Many thanks and thumps up for the good video ;)

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

HolyEDBahamuth Hmm, I believe I got it from that anniversary pack?

it is much easier, if you create a virtual machine, install the win98 there, and copy the hdd image to the sdcard. then you can boot in your sd-ide adapter.

@spuriouspodge7416

4 жыл бұрын

What a tip, I must remember that.

Dear Phil, what a great review 👍🏻 How would you rate this card against AWE32/64 in ms Dos games? Its not easy to find a Tualatin motherboard with AGP and ISA slot. Sound is very important for me, but before i buy this, would be great to hear about the dos comparesion -Retrocengo

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

Do watch my AWE 64 and SB 32 reviews, they are both complex cards with lots of features. They aren't easy to compare, they are all good to be honest.

@RETROCENGO

5 жыл бұрын

PhilsComputerLab Yes i have watched your amazing AWE card reviews. I also own both models. Im not after features, not different stuff in win 98. My interest is only which card has the most awesome sound/music in DOS games. I want to replace my P4 build, couse it only has PCI solition, thinking about going for a Tualatin system with ISA. Both running Win98SE, but mainly DOS gaming. So playing DOS games, will i get better sound solution with this yamaha card? I really love the AWE cards, also the general midi emulation, but if this card sounds better, then ill keep my P4 system, and order this card for it😁😁 If you have the time, you can see my P4 video, uploaded today, there i tell more about my love for dos games/sound😁👍🏻

@RavageReeves

Жыл бұрын

@@RETROCENGO why do you need a 1ghz plus build to run dos games? Wouldnt a 386 or P1 build with isa be better and p3 around 1ghz would be more suited to a window's 98 se build?

great review! thanks! Okay I maybe have a silly question, but is it possible to have two physical sound cards inside a computer. And can the system function with 2 cards, probably if it will work then 1 card will probaly work while the other simply disabled by the computer/os/bios.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Yes that is possible, in fact it's something many do. In Windows you can just disable one card in device manager, and in DOS just load the drivers for the other card. This might make for an interesting video to be honest...

@C6438911

6 жыл бұрын

indeed! nice to know it's possible!. I hope you can find the time to make a video about it in the future!. thank you for replying!

My win 10 64bit can't detect this card... But on win 10 32bit, it can be detected and work well by installing the driver... Does it only work only on 32bit windows??

It seems the sound is slightly deaf compared to 724

i dont know what iam doin wrong ... installed yamaha windows audio working fine, DOS games under windows working fine with GM and SBPRO settings Doom 1 and 2, Descent, Transport Tycoon Deluxe and more ... only Duke Nukem 3D hang up system when i select sound card. General midi in duke setup and in game without sound working playing without problems. But sound missing :( Duke version is 1.3D ... i dont have SB link mobo is this problem? Motherboard is MSI 815EPT PRO v5.0 + Tualatin 1.4G, 256MB RAM and ATI Rage XL PRO 32MB. Found patch for duke but nothing change 😢

i had one this installed on amd k56 mb, feels like nowsadays my sony xperia L whre using 16bit architecture engine sound smartphone but in sony there had been 3d suround on it, as i prefer 16 bit rather than 24 bit or maybe 32 bit that have not listened yet

I haven't played one game that sounded good with this card, what am I missing here?

What are the odds of getting this card working in DOS on a Sandy Bridge motherboard with an ICH5 southbridge?

Have you ever mentioned the necessary patch for duke nukem 3d and various PCI-based sound cards. I believe E1M4 immediately exposes the issue. It's something to do with how duke nukem 3d does echo. The patch just disables the effect.

i have 2 of these cards. only game i have issues with is commander keen 4. it recognizes the sound blaster / adlib but no sound or midi. anyone else?

Hallo guys, i know it is an old video but I have Yamaha 724 using SB-Link cable. Is there any way how to use the midi device in pure MS-DOS? In win98 DOS window it works just fine and the music in Doom or Monkey is amazing! But in the pure MS-DOS i have no music. Only if I set everything just as "Soundblaster" but no general midi 😢

That SD adapter looks useful, most of them do not have the bracket. Do you have a link for it?

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

No I don't, but take a look on eBay or AliExpress!

hi mr phil. could you please sent some driver link so i can use in windows 7 ? thanks in advance. i cant find the driver

Got ymf743 in my retro laptop unfortunately it looks like it is not compatibile with "pure" dos and under win9x dos games tend to have strange hickups evry few seconds.

What is better for dos gaming in a pci only biild these yamaha cards or solo-1? The solo cards have the wave headers for midi?

@philscomputerlab

Жыл бұрын

Splitting hairs, both are excellent. Watch both reviews and see if there is something important to you. Wavetable header depends on the brand or model, some have it others don't.

Phil do you own an ALS4000? It's a card I'd love to hear your thoughts on.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

I do have one now.

Hey phil any chance of getting some help from you here. Im really struggling with getting this thing setup under win 98 dos. I am using your restart in ms dos mode pack and the drivers you provided and after enabling dsdma i get a codec error when i run the setup. And if i dont run the dsdma i get a cannot find the dma. You dont detail in the small specifics enough im really lost here. Id like to get use out if this card on my win 98 machine if possible it does sound better than my sb16. I have a slot 1 pentium iii 450 mhz and 256 mb ram. And a geforce 3 ti 200. And win 98se. Thanks phil.

@davidfranklinv2860

4 жыл бұрын

If there is a better way to communicate one on one that may be better. Email? Text? Facebook..

Does this card work with the HP T5720?

i have a YMF724F-V after installation, everytime i boot chcp 437 NLSFUNC not installed and C:\>del \DOS4GW.exe is that a problem?

How is the MPU-401 midi support? Any hanging note issues here from external midi devices?

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

No hanging notes issues!

I recently picked up this card... but for some reason i cant get any (dos) games to use the xg synth through windows (98se) wonder if i need a fresh install of windows. I even used the same drivers you recommended... Nothing at all. I have another yamaha card that i imported from russia... that one works way better than this one through windows. at least I havent had any luck with this one. I'll try with a fresh install of windows to see if that helps.

@DeathVortex

3 жыл бұрын

Ok so this is fixed by using the drivers that come on the CD. The ones you recommended suck for windows

Yup. I have been a big advocator for YMF-724/744 cards for the last couple of years now. Perhaps 3 years in all. I think the 724/744 and the Vortex2 are the only kind of PCI cards you ever want to buy for an retro rig without ISA. SB-Live are just rubbish compared to all these three cards. Heh'. Every time I see someone do a build with SB-Live for dos gaming, and every time I see that, I am wondering as to why! Anyway... If you are not planning to play any dos games, then go for the Vortex2. If you plan to play at least one dos game that only support OPL, then go for the 7x4. And if you prefer stereo over surround, then choose the 724.

@philscomputerlab

6 жыл бұрын

Yea I'm glad I pulled the last video, I didn't use the right drivers, and the highlight is really the DOS compatibility. I don't mind the Live! as it does give you Sound Blaster 16 compatibility and a somewhat usable General MIDI device, but it's not as compatible as the YMF of course, also no SB-Link options and authentic OPL3.

@linkfreeman1998

9 ай бұрын

I guess people who uses SB Live prefers late 90's Windows gaming rather than DOS, but who am I knowing what they're using it for.

@brostenen

9 ай бұрын

@@linkfreeman1998 YMF-724 is for 1997-01 hardware, or rather Win98 gaming. SB-Live is for XP gaming.

@linkfreeman1998

9 ай бұрын

@@brostenen still, I guess people choose it for other reasons, like the EAX (basically hardware accelerated sound in games) support? And those dont need Win XP, those are easily available for Win 98. And ik that its not available for DOS games, so that's that.

i just got the Cobra AW840

I tried getting my live running in dos mode or dos. It didn't work. So pick a yamaha xg up. I hope that one atleast will do something in dos. My pc does not have any isa slots. It's a socket 370 1ghz. Love the thing but sure wish it had one Isa slot so I could slap a awe64 in there. But to be honest if it works with the xg I'm more then happy :) the audio quality seems to be very decent in the xg. :)