Yamaha Tenere 700 vs Super Tenere ES On and Off Road Comparison

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  • @jasgsxr2726
    @jasgsxr272628 күн бұрын

    Nice to see the Super10 getting some attention. My bike is my only vehicle, groceries, dates, trips, work and play. I don't have time for bike gremlins, I don't have time for tubeless tires (going to work and having to remove the wheel and tire to patch a tube, no) I go 2 up with luggage no problem. Major service 42000kms ! This a no BS bike. Bikes are like women, some you love and marry, some you date because they're exciting but leave you poor and frustrated.😏

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Excellent metaphor. Yamahas are the marrying type for sure.

  • @IRLtrolls
    @IRLtrolls28 күн бұрын

    ST owner here. Best motorcycle I’ve ever owned. Cruise control, shaft drive, tubeless wheels and an ULTRA reliable under stressed engine that will go 200,000 miles with proper maintenance. Yeah it’s not a Dualsport meant to rip through trails. I look at the ST as a touring bike that can comfortably attack gravel roads, city streets and hop curbs.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yep, and I forgot to mention the standard heated grips.

  • @IRLtrolls

    @IRLtrolls

    27 күн бұрын

    @@DifferentSpokesTV They aren’t technically standard. They are a plug and play kit from Yam for $400 and they are controlled native through the dash when you plug them in

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    I think the Canadian model comes with them installed.

  • @NunyaBusiness...

    @NunyaBusiness...

    16 күн бұрын

    @@IRLtrolls They are standard on the Electronic Suspension bikes after the 2015 or 2016 update IIRC. Then they eliminated the base version in the USA (2020 or 2021) and only offer the ES version so it is technically standard for the last few years.

  • @Rides_With_Ron
    @Rides_With_Ron28 күн бұрын

    The super T is a great value for money and the service interval is second to none. Nice thorough presentation!

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I think it's 40,000km between valve adustments.

  • @sebastianacosta7116
    @sebastianacosta711627 күн бұрын

    I own a 2022 ST ES, and I love it. Highways ✅️ Twisties ✅️ Gravel roads ✅️ Powerful ✅️ Comfort ✅️ Features ✅️ Sand ⚠️ Mud ⚠️ GREAT BIKE!!🏆🥇

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Yeah, it's not really a great bike for loose surfaces. But everywhere else it's awesome.

  • @user-ok5jv7ew5k
    @user-ok5jv7ew5k27 күн бұрын

    I purchased a new ‘23 ST about 3 weeks ago. It was between the ST and the Africa Twin Base. Different spokes review of the ST played a part in my decision to pick the Yamaha. Your insights about the ST are on point and I couldn’t agree more. Glad to be back on a big ADV. Subbed

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    The ST definitely does better on the road than the AT and comes with more standard equipment. It's also nice that you can go around the planet before you need a valve adjustment.

  • @derrickmurphy9859

    @derrickmurphy9859

    26 күн бұрын

    I'm on my 3rd super tenere just love them

  • @davindersangha3761
    @davindersangha376128 күн бұрын

    Owned a Super Tenere ES for 5 years. Put 160000k on it. Loved the bike. I own a T7 now. Miss my ST!

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    They are great bikes for sure. You get a lot for ur money with a ST.

  • @davindersangha3761

    @davindersangha3761

    27 күн бұрын

    @@DifferentSpokesTV not really! I abused that bike! Road it in 2 KTM rally’s here in BC. At least 80000km of all FSR 2 tracks and single. I always have to sell a bike to afford another. Sold to a friend and he sold it to another. See it around town.

  • @SquareHelmet
    @SquareHelmet28 күн бұрын

    I never actually considered a Super Tenere. But it now seems like a great choice for a really long distance cross continent adventure ride. Great video, as usual!

  • @IRLtrolls

    @IRLtrolls

    28 күн бұрын

    I have one. It’s the best value adventure tourer you can get. $7-9,000 and you have a legitimate glob trotting motorcycle

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah, Yamaha's problem is that a lot of people don't know that this bike is still for sale.

  • @RobsMotovlogs
    @RobsMotovlogs27 күн бұрын

    10 year ST owner here. It's an awesome bike. Solid, reliable, and fun

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Couldn't agree more!

  • @krob-sn7ek
    @krob-sn7ek26 күн бұрын

    Thanks! I always enjoy your channel !! Be safe

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @oknevals
    @oknevals24 күн бұрын

    Super Ten, 10/10 for best value and features among big touring bikes. It was really Yam's answer to GS. Cruise, TC, UBS, ABS, ES, heat grips, shaft, 200 mile range (if not abusing it). I've riden that mule through crazy storms that smaller bikes could hardly make it (one time Versys 300 couldn't keep up over 50mph due to wind so, I had to push to 85 in pouring rain from tail of group to slow it down.) I've done up to 550 miles days. It starts stretching legs after 70mph and jumps over 100 before u check speedo. Even on street tires it surprised me how good it is on dirt and even some rough trails in Big Bend. It is a hog for every day use but, it can do everything if you can handle it. It often goes on deep sale. Got my brand new 2018 for $16k USD on the road.

  • @bobz1736
    @bobz173628 күн бұрын

    Great job, sir 👏

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you kindly!

  • @tigercoward
    @tigercoward26 күн бұрын

    Your review of the Super T has impressed me! I ride the Tiger 1200, and it is an amazing bike. I never ride "off road" on gravel and pavement. My only complaint is the lack of dealers in Ontario. Well, actually, in Korth America. Like you, I have an Enduro bike in the garage, and I use thay for all of my off-road adventures. So, to answer your question, my preference is a big ADV paired with an enduro covers all bases. However, there are times that I would love to have a T7 or a Toureg, but the insurance on another road bike is too expensive for me. Great video. Thanks again Dave "Tiger "Coward

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Yes, a big ADV and an enduro pretty much do everything you need. The T7 off-road video is coming out this weekend.

  • @tigercoward

    @tigercoward

    25 күн бұрын

    @@DifferentSpokesTV Great.

  • @halinabiegalski9509
    @halinabiegalski950928 күн бұрын

    Interesting video, thank you 👍

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @NunyaBusiness...
    @NunyaBusiness...16 күн бұрын

    I wish they sold them kitted like that at the 14,200 USD price comparison you made here in The States. They have no bags, no luggage racks, no engine guards (unless you mean the plastic bumpers on the side or the splash guard on the bottom). Just the bike with the standard center stand (because you are supposed to use when adjusting the rear electronic suspension) and it is priced at $14,500 to full MSRP at $16,299 USD, plus you'll pay sales tax and registration for whatever state/county you register the bike in. I bought used for this reason, because the low buzz/interest in the bike caused by the stat sheet not being best in class leads to it being more affordable in a gently used flavor. A kitted out used Super T can be had for less than $10K USD. There are more color options in the used market as well.

  • @RockstarVeganRecipes
    @RockstarVeganRecipes28 күн бұрын

    Thanks for that excellent video. :)

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778
    @jerryandnancywertzbaugher777823 күн бұрын

    I'd go for the SuperT. But that's because I'm more interested in a sport/turing bike than an ADV. Actually I'd do the same as you suggest; a Super T for my road bike and a 300-500 Japanese dual sport for off road. Closer to 300 than 500. Once you turn off the main road the lighter bike is always best.

  • @guit156
    @guit15626 күн бұрын

    Long time super t rider. Ridden year round in Minnesota as primary commuter and across the country on long hauls coast to coast. Well over 100k miles. Have other bikes, and had an FJR. Once thought about trading for a KTM, but the super t is stupid reliable, handles well, gets me down fire roads, never misses a stitch. For my purposes, reliability is important, and though I love the KTM, thoroughbreds are finicky. I'll stick with the T. One day I'll have to replace it, but the way it runs, we'll all be electric by that time.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Year round in Minnesota is a pretty impressive feat.

  • @verlinswarey507
    @verlinswarey50728 күн бұрын

    Hey,you survived that log truck both times!

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Ha, ha! That's why I prefer to go in there on weekends because you mostly have those log roads to yourself.

  • @brianq103
    @brianq10325 күн бұрын

    If you added a Trail Tech Pro to the ST you would have everything and more the other bikes have on their dashes. In full color even.

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace72627 күн бұрын

    Very cool comparo. Thought I'd hit a fold in the spacetime continuum when I saw Super Tenere & maybe I have....

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yes, not a lot of people know that they're still for sale.

  • @seaninness334
    @seaninness33428 күн бұрын

    All depends on your needs and likes. I think, of the two, the T7 would check more boxes for me at the moment. If I planned on anything 2-up, that is an instant flip to the Super.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the SuperT could definitely cross the country two up.

  • @jonathantal4358
    @jonathantal435828 күн бұрын

    Great review, I wish you would talk about the character of the engines and not just about the power. Everyone talks about how great the cp2 engine is, but no one talks about the big bore 1200. Why? I would love to hear your take on this matter...

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Sorry, didn't want the vid to be too long. The CP2 is great and the SuperT engine is similar but even more so. Same 270 degree crank and v-twin sound but it feels like a big v-twin. Torque all day but can still rev out.

  • @hondaryder3779
    @hondaryder377928 күн бұрын

    T7 but if you're doing highways get a 10 yo one with 30.000/40.000km.on it. €8000/€9000, will last you a lifetime.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah, but do the older ones have Cruise? To me that is important if you're doing a lot of highway droning.

  • @pappaclutch3266
    @pappaclutch326622 күн бұрын

    S10 is a true do it all bike

  • @ZeroXSEED
    @ZeroXSEED28 күн бұрын

    Super Tenere is unfortunately heavily overshadowed by BOTH Honda Africa Twin and Yamaha's own Tracer 9 and Tracer 10 GT. The former is better off road and the later two is better on-road.

  • @IRLtrolls

    @IRLtrolls

    28 күн бұрын

    As a Super Tenere owner I have to disagree. Depends on what generation Africa Twin you’re talking about. Brand new AT 1100 is not a fair comparison. Two completely different generations of motorcycles. But a 2014+ ST vs a first generation AT is a fair comparison and the ST beats it in every possible way except off-road performance mostly gained through a 21in front wheel. ST has tubeless wheels, cruise control and shaft drive. I just got home from a 2,000 mile trip with my buddy on his AT and his chain came off and got bent all to shit and costs us two days of ride time to get a new chain put one. The ST is meant to cross the planet. It’s more comfortable and more reliable than the first gen AT.

  • @ZeroXSEED

    @ZeroXSEED

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah I'm talking about AT1000

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the Tracers are endangering the SuperT and the FJR1300 both.

  • @jothain
    @jothain27 күн бұрын

    I'm pondering with getting either of these. But then again. I have beater 2000 XT600e that is excellent on nearby trails, but seriously lacks on km munching. I suppose Super T would be more suitable option for me as I'm going to keep that old XT.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Yes, if you need a pavement bike the SuperT is the better choice. This week I'll put out a video on the T7 off road. It can do some amazing things but the XT600 is so much lighter it's probably better.

  • @lyubengeorgiev1751
    @lyubengeorgiev175127 күн бұрын

    Honestly, that is amazing price that you have in Canada. For the same money in Europe you would find Super10 that is second hand (not possible to buy a new one), probably 8-12 years old and some mileage for sure...not even getting the boxes. If you are in the market for a shaft drive adventure bike with 19 inch front wheel (which is maybe the best combo if you drive 90% on the pavement) this is perfect deal. Even more underappreciated in this category would be the Honda VFR 1200 X Crosstourer with DCT. It comes with 15 kg (30 lbs) more but it has the DCT gearbox and incredible V4 engine. Probably a bike that will become rare classic in 20/30 years.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the VFR 1200 X nevermore it to Canada. It's a great long range tourer for sure.

  • @gordonwallin2368
    @gordonwallin236827 күн бұрын

    Thanks, I'm looking at trading my Z1000 in on something a bit more in keeping with a 74 year old rider and still have a bit of poop and "picking up" ability. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    Glad I could help. Take care.

  • @verlinswarey507
    @verlinswarey50728 күн бұрын

    Maybe you said,but is the Super T in the video the current model? If so,man that thing looks outdated! Really like the T7’s looks!

  • @ZeroXSEED

    @ZeroXSEED

    27 күн бұрын

    It has been almost entirely unchanged from 2014

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yes it's a 2023. The T7 definitely looks better, but in fairness none of the big ADV bikes look very good.

  • @7arkhwf

    @7arkhwf

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@DifferentSpokesTV Exactly, hardly, if any, big Adv, look as neat as those younger siblings ( a slight exception might be 1290 SAR, but it is subjective of course)

  • @justlucky13
    @justlucky1326 күн бұрын

    For me Super Tenere ES

  • @7arkhwf
    @7arkhwf23 күн бұрын

    Isn't this, the 60 mil$ question ❓ I wish I could get only one of the two.. a "hybrid" 😊

  • @bseidem5112

    @bseidem5112

    21 күн бұрын

    T10 but 130 lbs lighter.

  • @fishyfish6768
    @fishyfish676828 күн бұрын

    New Moto Guzzi Stelvio?

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah, that's a great bike. The SuperT is the closest bike to my old Stelvio 1200 NTX.

  • @davidgartner2422
    @davidgartner242226 күн бұрын

    Nice bike's, Too bad "They" don't seem interested in producing/selling them in them as more than an afterthought.

  • @tonylastname6468
    @tonylastname646827 күн бұрын

    I made my choice. F900GS. I need your trails. Ever consider a viewer meetup and give away your secrets?!

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Ha, ha! No secrets. I ride the Northumberland forest around my house and the ATV trails and singletrack in the Madawaska Valley and Algonquin Park. You can access the park through Basin Depot road north of Barry's Bay.

  • @tonylastname6468

    @tonylastname6468

    27 күн бұрын

    @DifferentSpokesTV semi familiar with the area. But I'm coming from the other side. Ottawa based. Takes a few hours to get to the eastern borders of Algonquin.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    It's two hours to Barry's Bay, then you go north on Paugh Lake road to Basin Depot. Then another good stretch in the park. Plan the whole day.

  • @tonylastname6468

    @tonylastname6468

    25 күн бұрын

    That is definitely a doable trip. But yeah, also definitely a full day. Thanks!

  • @michaeld2587
    @michaeld258726 күн бұрын

    Super tenere needs a redesign.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    25 күн бұрын

    It needs an update for sure. But if they redo it the price will go up by a lot.

  • @raulsalanaranjo6565
    @raulsalanaranjo656527 күн бұрын

    While the T7 is no looker imho, the Super T has to be one of the ugliest bikes on sale today. If I were someone at Yamaha, I would put the CP3 engine and a new fascia. So, an all new bike.

  • @DifferentSpokesTV

    @DifferentSpokesTV

    27 күн бұрын

    Yes, there have been some rumours of a Tenere 900 but completely unsubstantiated yet.

  • @georgenauss2670

    @georgenauss2670

    27 күн бұрын

    I am riding a Yamaha FJR. Awesome bike for touring. But I was really hoping to pickup a Super T. For my riding style. Touring and rough road. 😊

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