Hello, guys. Thanks for your comments and support. The Tenere 700 in this test was handled to us by the Yamaha dealer and it had the stock suspension settings. In order to offer a more detailed and precise answer on the Tenere 700 suspension thing, we'll come up with a follow-up test in a couple of days. We'll try again the Tenere on road and off-road with various compression/rebound settings. Be right back. :) P.S. You're a well informed and exacting community and we're proud of that!

@aleksandaratanasov105l

4 жыл бұрын

You have been attacking with poor compliments the most selling motorcycle for the autumn 2019 - spring 2020. It’s the unicorn of the motorbikes. It’s a platform on which can be added many adjustments for the suspension, with little investments. You forget to mention its simplicity and reliability. So thank bouth gays for the video, but I think that you can emphasize those points.

@kloppskalli

4 жыл бұрын

@@aleksandaratanasov105l you don't understand the purpose of motorcycle comparisons, its not supposed to be only what you want to hear

@ridewithandrei

4 жыл бұрын

Do some work to the suspension and you have a real adventure bike. Ktm reliability it’s still not there. People are buying them just because they are fun to ride.

@miguelbruno4159

4 жыл бұрын

i swap the 790s for the T7 , have reability problems with the ktm and i ridden a f850gs for a week, this is a very honest review this guys express exactly what this bikes are, because i have a 1200gs( ( looking for a simple and bullet prof bike to go anywere) the T7 for me is the best bike, but in the first km i felt exactly the same with the T7 suspension but with a few adjustment you can improve... looking foward to see that video and expect your honest thoughts as always.. keep on guys... top channel congrats

@TheSharkypeto

4 жыл бұрын

We appreciate you read our comments and are eager to do some further testing on the suspension. Great video and comments. Thumbs up!

That slow mo of the suspension is the best comparison you can have. Great work you guys! great video!

@fs5866

4 жыл бұрын

Yea from that part I think the Yamaha was looking like the best performer,it was eating those bumps with a lot of clearance left and yes the suspension is supposed to be harder if you're going off road,adjust it to be plushy for road

@dexio85

4 жыл бұрын

@@fs5866 We must have seen different footage ;) Yamaha had the worst susp. of the pack.

@khakimzhanmiras

4 жыл бұрын

unironically best big bike forks are on the scrambler 1200 xe

@jennydiazvigneault5548

4 жыл бұрын

In slow mo it seemed the Yamaha did well. It looked like the rear suspension on the BMW was just about bottoming out.

@mrcsft

4 жыл бұрын

@@dexio85 absolutely false. I tested both 790 and T700, Yamaha has better suspensions and looking at the slow motion video, you can see it clearly. The 790 and 850GS haven't adjustable suspensions, the 790 appear unstable, the GS is more stable but too soft for real off road usage. The T700 setting is too hard but the suspensions and frame is working good. Could be better with the right setting. On the T700 are mounted fully adjustable Kayaba suspensions, suspensions far from economic and this is demonstrated by the fact that many complain that the suspension is too soft and others that are too hard (depending on the setting). Often the cheap adjustable suspensions are not really adjustable...

I miss these guys. I remembered this episode, they had so much fun. RIP Cristian Recently got a 2022 890 Adventure S and this bike fits me much better than the H-D Pan America and 1290 SA-R that I had before. This bike is opening up more riding possibilities for me.

Having been riding bikes most of my 55 yrs..... and living Thailand now and living in Vietnam and The Dominican Republic.... Growing up in California The bottom line for me is reliability, cost of maintenance, availability of parts and services...... World wide I would stick with the Good folks at the Tuning fork of Yamaha. Just my opinion of Course. I owned a GS 800 and overall loved it... But I didn't love the dealer or service experience. I have only ridden a handful of KTMs..... But I absolutely loved the ride for sure. I love to ride..... Not spending time in service shops and waiting for parts. I will stick to Yamaha. You guys did an awesome job here. Keep up the good work. 😁🙏

@supilottrainee

4 жыл бұрын

John Flano Tenere700 just opening in Thailand 2 weeks ago. I will order it on next year.

@johnflano6973

4 жыл бұрын

@@supilottrainee Wow!!!! Awesome. Where in Thailand?

@supilottrainee

4 жыл бұрын

John Flano Lopburi province sir.

@johnflano6973

4 жыл бұрын

@@supilottrainee ok, Beautiful. If you are visiting bkk give me a shout and we can meet up for coffee and chat if you are interested... Instagram is flanos_collection good way to get in touch. Have a great weekend 😁 🙏

@steamixion

4 жыл бұрын

I have had a BMW F700 GS for five years. Never been to a BMW dealer.

Going on long tours: BMW Hitting the bendy back roads: KTM Going into the bushbush: Yamaha

I'm not really a Yamaha fanboy, but dear me did they hit a home run with that Ténéré!

@kojack635

3 жыл бұрын

I am and yes they did!

@ratbrain7743

Жыл бұрын

@A Z I rode a friends nc750. It was so weak. I thought something was wrong with it.

The camera work for the series at 11:00 is pretty amazing.

You guys looked like you had fun doing this review and I very much had fun watching it. Long wait for my Yamaha in the USA and watching you 3 on these bikes doesn't help. Lol Thanks for the review. Well done!

I have lost count on how many times I viewed this video. Great job, loved it!

Great job guys. Loved that scene in slow motion where we can see the 3 bikes from the side on the field.

I would like to applaud all three of you. For three guys whose first language is obviously not English, you all have an amazing command of the language. Well done all of you.

@erindi23

3 жыл бұрын

But you're still mentioning that English is not their first language. ;) As a foreigner myself I get compliments on how well I speak the language. It becomes tiring and excluding. When I hear these comments from a native, I usually answer: "Yea, you speak the language equally well" Just enjoy the video and appreciate the content :)

@jumper2079

3 жыл бұрын

@@erindi23 Can you just appreciate someone paying another a compliment? Why try to turn it into some kind of criticism? And maybe they don't hear it all the time like you. Maybe they still appreciate hearing it.

That is it! A great review with true application of the products in the field and good humor! Congracts

I love the simplicity of the Yamaha, and the price difference between it and the others is substantial. The worldwide dealer support is also a major plus if going to far away places is on your agenda. Traction control on a dirt bike? We use to call that clutch and throttle control.

@chrissanford8467

4 жыл бұрын

It depends on the situation you're in. If you're going up a steep, gnarly trail with ruts, stones, roots and trying hard just to stay upright let alone control throttle and clutch, TC can be a real life-saver.

@Leo-lr8hr

4 жыл бұрын

There are more ktm dealership worldwide (in terms of numbers of countries) than yamaha.

@tranceending5914

4 жыл бұрын

Léo That’s surprising, though depending on how remotely you travel, the simplicity of the bike could be advantageous, any bike.

@tranceending5914

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Sanford I’m sure it can, and fantastic to have the option, but you can only know it’s capabilities by experiencing its absence.

@Leo-lr8hr

4 жыл бұрын

@@tranceending5914 Yes I was surprised as well but have to be honest, are you really going to sub-Saharan Africa or South America with your motorbike, not sure I would pick up an expensive T700 or 790 to do so. I'm going for the Tenere after having tested both, the KTM is better in every aspect, but it's more money to spend on every aspect as well (cost, parts, maintenance, insurance) and yeah obvisously the Yam is more reliable and simplier to repair but the KTM is not as bad as everyone say. Maybe after my 4 month European trip I will switch to the KTM just for enjoying it on the weekends.

So careful and detailed comparisons. You guys take so much into consideration as these bikes are so close in comparison to each other but it’s these subtleties between them that people are interested in and usually don’t have the benefit in riding them out of the box as you guys do. I own a Honda Goldwing 2018 and I love it but I grew up on dirt bikes. Yes, I did see the video on the Goldwing and the BMW 1600 and fully enjoyed that too! You do an excellent job, Keep it coming!

this is a killer video and an in depth, real world review - wow you guys worked really hard on this production - it's really helpful to a viewer, I felt like I was right there with you haha

Nice editing! And awesome to see the bikes being pushed (literally and figuratively) a bit. Great shots of the suspension working.

You guys really do a great review. Well done! Your capturing the art in the ride as well as covering the duller statistical analysis. All while having fun. This is premium content. Thanks.

Good review guys! I own a F850GSA and love it. You summed it up well. I looked at the KTM and decided against it because I like to adventure with my wife often and the Beemer was the better choice for me. I can see how the KTM is best for a light adventure. Regardless of what works for people, this class of motorcycle is where the future is. I love the way manufacturers are turning their attention to lighter, more affordable and fun motorcycles!

Very very nice review! Thanks for taking all the effort and not opting for too much KZread ads in between too!

One of the leading channels in the motorbike genre on KZread....! Well done boys👍👍👍

I have an 850GSA and I couldnt agree more about the gear box. It could be so much better. The quickshift works nicer than the clutch shifting sometimes, low gearing can be specially annoying, sometimes with the BMW. I test rode both the T7 and the KTM(Both Versions). There are so many good points about all these 3 bikes its crazy. I guess in the end its about what motorcycle do you actually like the most, which one speaks to you the most. As always amazing video guys !!

Those bikes did well in the bog considering that they had hybrid tires and not dirt knobbies. The Yamaha needed to be dialed down a bit on suspension it looked like, but it was still nice. The KTM did well. The fact that it would not even be worth trying the BMW in the bog because of difficulty of pushing it around when it gets stuck or falls over, says a lot. These guys lost a good opportunity with the Yamaha by not adjusting the very decent suspension on it. It was obviously too hard for many of the bumpy road tests, and CERTAINLY for the boggy field. Dial it down, and it would have made a world of difference, and that low end torque motor would have made the off roading fun.

GSA too big and heavy for a middleweight - it would be hard to pick it over the R1250 as there is little difference in mass. Nice thorough review!

@davereinhart9933

4 жыл бұрын

I chose the 850 GSA over the 1250 because it feels smaller off road, has a better front wheel size and I didn't want to spend an extra 10 grand. Those were the things that mattered to me.

@Birb_of_Judge

4 жыл бұрын

I would choose the regular 850 over the Adventure any day of the week

@Coldgecko

4 жыл бұрын

Big difference in mass. I have taken both bikes F850GSA and R1200GSA on 25,000km rides each (one from Miami to Thailand and one to South America) F850 is way lighter than R1200/1250. But I can say after riding on such huge rides -- F850 comfort is key for success. I cant ride a bike that is going to hurt my ass after a month of riding... Also KTM is impossible to find parts -- BMW has parts all over the world.

@Coldgecko

4 жыл бұрын

@@Birb_of_Judge Depends on the distance you ride and where you ride... If you go to remote places, no choice, GSA is mandatory.

@jeffreyvedha4871

4 жыл бұрын

@@Coldgecko don't bmw's breakdown all the time?

Your slow motion footage of suspension performance at 11 minutes is brilliant!

@MrHeepspo

4 жыл бұрын

Slow mo footage: The Tenere driver looked to be riding the fastest with the BWM rider the slowest. The center stand flopping around on the BMW was ridiculous.

Thank you guys, a fantastic video. Loved the critique and the adventure in equal measure. I'm looking at various KTM and have fallen for them of late.

Nice teasing: Ready to race.....lol! Thank you for very cool comparison, keep up good work, V!

What a fantasticly done show, thank you. Christian you will be dearly missed

Some great filming guys. Can’t wait to get my t7 in March. Ready to ride from London to Central Asia

@jerinjose7310

4 жыл бұрын

please come india

@jamesdouglas9812

3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison of the 3 bikes. Focussed on bikes and +/- points of each in varied conditions, not on rider egos! Brill camera work, great natural discussion. Top quality bike comparison. Now SUBSCRIBED. Result: KTM 👍. But... reports of moisture in display, occasional mode selection issues. Investigate please guys. Well done. 😎👍

One of the best review channels out there!! Great work, cool guys greetings from austria

WOW thank you 🙏 for the awesome and honest real life no BS review, I really appreciate it.

Good one guys! The camera guy is doing a great job! In the last part, when you are talking to each other I would have liked to see the bikes from time to time. Good opportunity to show the desing and other things of the bikes.

Great video guys, very well done 👍 Thanks… Cheers from Northern California

Love your videos guys! Your detailed feedback at the end was great

Great video! Best line of the video... 'I don't have glasses, I have a KTM'!

You guys are the best. Great review and camera work is unbelievable. Thanks!

Great review guys..as others have said I would have liked you to play around with the suspension adjusting..maybe next time..Thanks guys, these reviews are really helpful when choosing a bike👍

Best bike review I've seen in a long time

Fabulous and very thorough, one of the best I've seen undertaken yet. Well done.

I would have liked to see you changing the suspension just a bit on the Yamaha to see your opinion on the before and after. But in general the review was great 👍

@kloppskalli

4 жыл бұрын

I think they forgot the screw driver at home :-))

Very Nicely Done! Much thanks for all you do!

Adjustable suspension... adjust it !!

@MotoGuzziMoto

4 жыл бұрын

Seems obvious and yet many big reviewers claim its too soft and little reviewers claim its too hard. What is interesting with the Tenere is that it is so easily adjusted and still no one does it. Enjoyable video though.

@ChrisAkAxTr3Me

4 жыл бұрын

@@MotoGuzziMoto I made the same experience from all the reviews. Some testers from Australia even said that all similiar bikes need stiffer springs when you really want to push it hard offroad. Some people even completely open all valves / remove damping and are happy with that. I think its hard to build an on+offroad bike that suits everybody for both scenarios. Most likely thats impossible anyway, maybe with (expensive) electronic suspension.

@Marco-cl9pb

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have a MT07 2019 (I know it's not a tenere lol) and on the stock setting the back it's pretty harsh at least for my weight (I'm 78kg without gear), after changing 2 notches for softer feels more confortable on the bumps and still giving good feedback

@ChrisAkAxTr3Me

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-cl9pb Well I have the same weight and changed to a Wilbers suspension. Progressive fork springs, 7.5wt wilbers zero friction oil and the 640 shock strut. Its quite harsh when you ride it on bad roads all day, but for 2-3 hours on average roads its fine. Stock suspension showed too much nose dive when breaking and the shock wasnt that good either, but the Wilbers is also far from perfect. I think in this price range you have to deal with this.

@malageb1

4 жыл бұрын

You can only adjust a cheap suspension so much...It's still a cheap suspension.

If I plan to buy some bike I will definitely check video reviews of you guys only. Most genuine one which covers all aspects. Make sense for a pro rider and a beginner rider. How can you bring up with so awesome video mate? Keep going guys!! The only thing missing in this review is a Triumph tiger. Just wanted to see how you compare that with these bikes. Waiting!!!!!!!

I can smell the burning clutch from here!

EXCELLENT VIDEO MATE.... LOVE IT... CHEERS FROM MEXICO. KEEP ON RIDING

Good stuff and a very versatile review! I like the enthusiasm, pic angles, the suspension talk, etc.. Tried the Tenere last week. It is just as good as you say. And being stuck is part of the fun! :D

Keep up the good work. Most informed unbiased channel there is. I recently bought the Street Triple RS over the Z900 and your comparison helped me make the correct decision for me. I'm really looking forward to the KTM 490 twin as I feel that will hit a sweet spot in real world adventure touring or off roading in Asia.

why you trying off with no off tire? i have on my t7 conti tkc80 and this is another race......

@jakubvohralik4571

4 жыл бұрын

exactly tlc80, mitas e 07, Michelin Tracker...those are off tire

The suspension segment @ 10:52 was really well done, that's what we want to see!

Brilliant, honest comparison of all three bikes. Great video and some lovely film work 👌😎

I have watched many if not most of your videos over the years and this is my favorite one of them all. Thank you so much. I hope to see a review like this one for the new Tiger Rally Pro 660, Aprilia Tuareg 660, Honda Transalp 660 and maybe bring back the T7 as I am very interested in the below 700cc class that is now being released as I am hopeful they are more off-road focused first and highway second which the current 700-900cc bikes which are the "middle weight" bikes are not. Thank you again for everything you guys do for us.

What a great video guys!! Thank you for your humour!! love it!!

Where did you filmed that?? Nice video, I'll pick up my T 700 next friday. Look so forward to it 🎉

damn the KTM sounds bad. T7 had the best exhaust note imo.

You are amazing. Non-biased, open, and funny. The photography is outstanding, sometimes breathtaking. I couldn't figure out where you guys are coming from. Romania I guess?

Great review. Fantastic footage ! Well done & Great advice . Keep up your great work🇬🇷🇳🇿

The 11:00 - 13:00 section of the video is self-explanatory! Excellent. Slow motion is a great way to see the suspension at work. Thanks and ride safe.

Hey guys great job great video definitely set yourselves apart from other video comparisons , how about talking about the dadh displys ? After all you spend all day looking at it ..!

A very practical and real comparison video. Great work guys 👌🏼

Allways the best reviews. Thank you guys. Regards from Brazil.

Do the T7 have adjustable rebound dampening? If it kicks your but, try to turn that one in a couple of clicks

As always, great Video, great work!

Loved the video. You guys did a great job riding and testing in all types of terrains. The slow motion suspension shots was fantastic. Please make a video by adding Tiger 900 Rally Pro to the mix. I would like to know how it fairs against these bikes.

Doing great videos! Thx from Sweden!

You guys make a fun, entertaining, informative video

Great job on the video guys! This was a really great comparison between these bikes. Yamaha looking really good and with some suspension love could be a great bike.

Amazing video! Entertaining and educational. Loved it!!!

Great job guys, well and honest comparison 👍

Thanks guys for this excellent review!

I liked the honesty with which you guys went through all the terrain and bikes and discussing each bike with each other. Excellent review! Thank you for making it. Excellent work! It was interesting listening to your accents, locked in my own little world I thought yawl sounded Russian. I still don't know but I commend you on your English skills too. Was kind of fun to listen to 3 gangstaz talk bikes, hahaha! Good job, Gentlemen!

Good work :-) Great filming !

What a beautiful place to ride those bikes! Great video

Great review and fun to watch. Thanks!

Really very interesting video with high information value, pleasing critical remarks, not only praise as in some other, more marketing-oriented clips of other nations.

Great review. Three guys like in top gear. I like the idea. Good luck guys. Greetings from Poland

Awesome review, this video alone is the reason why I’m subscribed

2:20 "I will beat your ass out"...hahaha! Funny stuff!

Fantastic comparison review, keep up the good work Guys

Thank you for this interesting and beautiful video! Where are you driving? (County, area)

Great video guys. Very informative!

Love the video and definitely subscribing

Great video ! What's with the racing slicks on those bikes? haha

Great comparison. Helps me settle on a decision. Thank you!

awesome Video guys, thank you so much, specialy because of minutes 11 an 12 :) very good job

17:05 FTW. I was waiting for it. You guys are great. Just goes to show they are ADVENTURE bikes not ENDURO bikes. Do it now with the 400s.

This one is really a very good video. Thank you guys

Great video!

I keep hearing stories of the KTM having reliability issues. A lot of them have been in and out of the shop which is unfortunate. Such a sweet machine. I'm picking up my tenere 700 mid-july.

@jeffloucks2120

3 жыл бұрын

Yup ! If winner is most recalls then they nailed it. :)

@ericredpath3908

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard the same thing about reliability issues with the KTM. Breaking down out in no man's land is my biggest concern by far! Reliability is the name of the game in this sport. Traction control doesn't due anything if the bikes not running! I've got my DCT tour Goldwing for comfort riding. They're all great bikes but cost of ownership would be my second highest buying point, and for those two aspects my choice would be the Yamaha. She may be old school and lacking in technology but I just wanna ride in AND ride out ! Great review and camera work! I really enjoyed your insights and thoughts!!

one of the best adv comparison videos. way over the "PeMotoare" level. keep it up! *and adjust the adjustable suspension next time*

Brilliant video as always as a former 1200gsa te, 800gs an vstrom 1000xt owner this was a really interesting comparison.

Very good test and thanks for share the feeling very helpful . thanks for it guys

Someone I know got the Yamaha T700 and spent $400 on the suspension and it’s a beast !

@chrishart8548

3 жыл бұрын

Guessing that's just some springs

When I watch your videos I think of traveling with bike even though I don’t like bikes

Great video very informative and fun to watch.Thank you guys.

@DriveMagRiders

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Great. Just perfect. Waiting t7 and 790 in Brazil

Guys great video about the diferent feeling of the bikes, but tell us about the service intervals and the costs for each bike, thanks keep up the good work!

Love from India. Good review. It's good to see riders having fun

Very nice ! Nice review ✌

Always good videos guys!

what a review guys!! great job

yeh!! awesome trip, awesome, bikes, awesome reviewers!!! great job, kudos!!!