Yamaha Super Ténéré Fork Seal Replacement / Rebuild
After putting it off for too long, I go through the forks on my Yamaha Super Tenere. New seals, fresh oil and seal savers.
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I'm totally confused about the strap from the tire to the center stand...since the stand fold back toward the rear shouldn't the strap run from the stand to the front area of the bike?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Higgins 😂😂 you are 100% right! I’m such a clown sometimes!! I guess I was thinking about when you take a rear wheel off, to run it to the front. Oh well, guess I got lucky again. Thanks for pointing it out.
@bonanzabiker
5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I was thinking don't tighten that strap down more or this video might turn into a much bigger fix it session.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
Miles Hankins 😂😂. I’m definitely good for a laugh!
@paulvanreenen6986
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Jungleland33
2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
Thanks for your time in making this. Not blocking the seal install with your arm and showing the entire reassembly make the difference in good vs great instructional videos.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words. I am not an expert so I’m just glad that I can provide help.
Thank you so much for this! Super helpful and very informative for the not so savvy such as myself.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped.
Good stuff! Learned something new today!👍 Nothing like a cold adult beverage & a little Zeppelin after a job well done!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
James Brace yes indeed. Thanks for watching.
Wrench in the spring trick for the win! Saved me a lot of frustration... started the job, got to that part, scratched my head and then remembered there was something in this video about a trick... worked like a charm. Thanks for taking the time to record your efforts and share them with haphazard carport mx dudes like me!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
I forgot that I had put that in there! Just did another fork video and did the same thing. Thanks for watching!
Oh well, your still one smart cat! Love your videos, Tom.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Higgins thanks, I am just laughing at myself for that mistake. 😂
Exactly what I need, bike just failed MOT on leaky fork seals so now I repair myself, many thanks
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
Great video Tom! I definitely feel confident tackling this myself now. Appreciate it. Cheers! 🍻
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
This is just a basic seal replacement, you can obviously do a more thorough breakdown but it's really not necessary. Hope it goes well!
Love the Shox Sox or Seal Savers, whatever. They are worth every penny.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
azdesertdog if I had installed them prior to my trip last year, I probably wouldn’t have had to change seals.
I’m going to give this a go in the afternoon, thanks for making this video.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes. I highly recommend getting all the bushings too. Wish I had…
@dingalsbe88
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures it went pretty good, took me about 3 hours... I kept going back to your video and making sure I was doing it correct. I probably should have gotten new bushings too.. Oh well... I just bought this bike, only had it for 3 days.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
@@dingalsbe88 good to hear. Great bike, I took mine all over the USA and Canada.
@dingalsbe88
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures I know, I've been watching your videos... :)
Thanks for the info. Changed my Seals this last weekend. Made a seal seating driver by cutting an old seal cleanly in 2 pieces. Put them around the fork & carefully tapped new seal in with a nylon hammer. Lastly I used a metric baking jug to measure out the 485ml & poured it into the assembled fork. Manually pumped the system to cycle oil through. Thanks once again. PS, I ground a cheap 14mm wrench down to fit onto the nut easily.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you came up with solutions, having special tools is great but not always a requirement. Ride safely!
@paulvanreenen6986
3 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures thank you. I love my Super Tenére. I have a clip on KZread on how I did a great exhaust mod. Look it up.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
@@paulvanreenen6986 I will!
the wrench for the forks is in the factory tool kit under the panel
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Valar morghulis I don’t think I have ever opened that tool kit!
@valarmorghulis9912
4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered it myself ...And I should have said the big hex head tool is in there.. I am doing my fork seals right now thanks to your video ..thank you very much sir :)
I like your measuring technique for the oil level! Can't wait to do it for the R6
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
Aaron’s Adventures and Tinkering collaboration video!
@MrBajabug65
5 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Check for it on Aaron's Adventures and Tinkering
Aaron sent me!!! Love the videos!!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
Rustyninja84 I guess I owe him a beer for the reference. I will get two for you.
I think you’ve got the seal backwards as I’m pretty sure the spring side should be facing up into the fork not outwards.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I guess I’d have to rewatch the video to see if I put it in wrong, but if I did it must work ok. I put 20,000 miles on it after that and sold the bike. As far as I know it’s still working. 😂
Good vid. Just did em. Just a suggestion.... Centerstand down, why not just put a floor jack under the front of the skid to raise the front end up vs the strap cluster? Also I wrapped tape around the fork caps to keep em from getting buggered up by a wrench, they make em outta cheese.
@highwayman1218
3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder.... Yamaha wants you to check oil level.with spring guide removed. That dumb thing goes in a certain way too..... I read that after i assembled the 1st leg. Disassembled a second time to find I had installed it right the 1st time.... That sucked.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
@@highwayman1218 I was messed up on that strap anyway! 😂 Well mine are still working so I guess I will do a fluid change this year sometime and get everything right. Have a great year, thanks for watching!
@highwayman1218
3 жыл бұрын
Great vids!
Good job man I like it
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
sohail nasir thanks, I’m not an expert but having a couple of the right tools made it a bit easier.
For the Axle nut I just took a 3/4 inch bolt and welded a nut to it, been using it for years to take the wheel off. I'm cheap. carry on
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I have a connector nut thing in my tool kit, same idea. I’m cheap too!
@SlayerofFiction
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures I noticed, I was a little intimidated with doing these forks until I saw your tools. I used to run and maintain my own heavy equipment so I am pretty set up, holy cow :P Hats off to ya though.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
@@SlayerofFiction yeah, it’s possible to do a lot with a little…or a little with a lot. 😃
@SlayerofFiction
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Oh I agree, although I learned a long time ago to just buy a tool and not fight it. Dad was old school and would make our own tools even uhgg. On that note I did see a home made Welder in the Philippines, wraps of copper with wood around it. They asked if I wanted to use it I turned them down, no thanks :P A+ for innovation though.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
@@SlayerofFiction I grew up on a farm, farmers are very innovative about getting it done with what you have. I can’t shake that even though I have been off the farm so long!
Great video. Nice tips. II have a like to do my own work too. I've had some bad experiences from 5 dealerships over the years. I have a question? Every bike I've ever done fork seals on since the 70's. Most of them were dirt bikes. I was under the impression you are supposed to back all the adjustments out. I read that in one of my service manuals long ago. Does it really matter?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
7 ай бұрын
It’s probably a good practice to back everything out, less tension upon disassembly and reassembly.
Great work! Have you any idea of the diameter of an iron axis to put at the bottom of the fork for compression with belt and the tool ? I haven't an old pin and I'd like to find a suitable axis before dismantling the forks. A 1/2 inch pin would be fine? Many thanks!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
I think 1/2 inch would be ok.
This was a very helpful video! You refer to the manual during refilling the fork oil. Do you have a link to the manual available?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I don’t have a link, but you could see if the Tenere forum has one?
@jimbinger
Жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Where did you get your manual?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
@@jimbinger I don’t remember but likely on the forum
You got to stop the Shady safety Tom.. LOL.. your going to start KZread jail like Facebook jail.. LOL LOL I love how you point it out BUT I do understand what your saying.. that is funny.. your a good man Tom..
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 жыл бұрын
I spent the last few years of my military career working in the Safety Department, so I pick on it whenever I can.
@tom535
5 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures hey you earned it Tom.. great video..
Is changing seals on the electronic suspension version just as easy? Feasible as a DIY job?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I have never worked on them, sorry. Gotta be a video out there!
I have a 2012, with just 10 k on it, the seals already need to be replaced. They really did a poor job on these seals.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
kal I think Yamaha should have integrated better fork protection. I always tell new owners to get seal savers....it’s what I should have done.
Thanks for sharing. A 2nd set of hands would be handy. What bracket are you using to mount your highway pegs?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Kal Howell it’s a homemade bracket from some small U bolts. Not great but it works
Hi Tom, you did not show removing the bottom bolt which keeps the cartridge at the bottom of the fork. The book mentions a special tool to keep the cartridge still in place while you unbolt the end fork bolt (the one with the washer). Was that necessary or you were able to unbolt / bolt it back without problems ? Thanks
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t remove the cartridge, guess I could or should have but it’s not required for doing the seals
@oc_geek337
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Thanks, I realized that on a second thought. Besides do you know / have you done it ?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Davide Emilio Marazza not specifically on the Ténéré but yes I have. I have used my air impact wrench to remove the cartridge holding bolt, no special tools required if you have an impact. In the past I used a homemade tool, really just an old broom stick that I sanded down.
Hey Tom. When you reinstall the forks, is there a stop in the upper bracket, or do you just eye-ball it level with the bracket?
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
Жыл бұрын
There’s no stop, you have to try to get them level
@davidrosen5137
Жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Got it. Thanks man.
Can you use the wrench trick to get it apart if you don’t have the tool to help compress the spring? I’ve done several dirt bike forks and figured I had all the tools but I don’t have that one.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 ай бұрын
I’ve done it without the special tools, it’s a bit more of a pain but it can be done.
@T_Shane
5 ай бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventuresdo you have a suggestion on how to do it? I have some ideas but not sure what will be the best way other than ordering that tool lol.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 ай бұрын
@@T_Shane kind of difficult to explain, but I bet you can find some good pictures on the Super Tenere forum
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
5 ай бұрын
@@T_Shane also, the tool is pretty cheap!
@T_Shane
5 ай бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures it is. I just have a ride planned Sunday and the seals and bushings just came in today. Didn’t realize until today that that’s how those forks are setup.
So my 2014-2015 service manual says 16.4oz, 17.11 imp. oz on one page/section of book pg. 4-101 and something totally different on pg. 4-106 gives individual oil capacity amount for left (17.07oz) vs. right (16.67oz)fork.... any ideas ?? and do you show the same on your electronic version you used in video. THANKS for the video by the way... well done Sir!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Lanny Griggs interesting, I don’t know about the ES suspension.
@YotieKiller1
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures mine is exactly like yours, Non-Es
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Lanny Griggs oh, well I wonder if the manual changed?
@YotieKiller1
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures My bad...the oil capacity does differ on ES config. Due to differing cartridge size hence differing fill amount, now we know. Thanks for your help and again for the video!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Lanny Griggs cool, thanks for the heads up. I have not ridden an ES model, would like to see if it’s worth it.
Hi from Mexico City. Did you try cleaning the seal before changing it? I just cleaned mine but can’t use the bike because of Covid.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Garry Dymond it started leaking when I was riding in Canada. Cleaned it a few times, it’s worth a try to clean them. It helped for quite a while.
Tom, I just bought a 2012 super Tenere, when I hit the brakes (front brake) my forks Dive immensely, I have been adjusting the pre load, damping, and compression and they still compress alot. It that typical for these shocks, and what do you have your settings on. MY spring preload is all they way down to 4, my rebound damping is at 3 and my compression damping is at 5 and these shocks still compress like crazy.... shoots me forward on the bike.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Anomie I’m set about in the middle on all of the settings. I went a bit farther on the preload and really think it’s too stiff. I don’t usually brake hard, but never noticed a lot of fork dive. You may want to upgrade your springs.
@anomie6788
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Thanks for the response, like I said I just got this bike and not familiar with it, so I am practicing quick stops and turns. Changing the fork oil is my next option. maybe a stiffer spring;
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Anomie well it’s always important to have it set up how you like. Enjoy the bike, great machines.
Goid morning Tom. Question! What tire would you recomend i put on my 2015 tenere. I mostly ride high way but do go off road occasionally to do a little camping. Thank you!
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
James Brace tires are kind of like religion or politics, kind of personal. 😂. I have been happy with the Shinko 705, Mitas E07, Heidenau K60 and Continental TKC70. All should fit your needs along with plenty of other ones. Ride a bunch and try all of them!
@jamesbrace3212
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures thank you sir! This mu first ADV bike & its time to get knew rubber & you were the first cat to come to mind to ask!😎
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
James Brace lots of great tire choices out there. I haven’t tried any of the big block designs yet, but have two sets waiting.
Great vid. my 2012 S10 is just now starting to ooze a bit of oil so it is time do do my forks. can i buy a complete kit that includes the bushings and the seals? if so where do you recommend? I just finished my SS1000 and I think that is what started the issue. My bike has 69000 miles and I will never get rid of it. you are awesome thanks. IBA# 76062
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
TexasGater I didn’t look for a complete kit for this bike but have picked them up for other bikes from All Balls. OEM is great of course, but it’s not in a kit. Guess I will see if there’s a kit for the Ténéré.
@User-rj7cj3ig5j-s2f
4 жыл бұрын
Mine too leaking bad
Hi, do tou remove the white spring guide when doing your oil level.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
tony smith I would have to read the manual, but usually it’s measured with just the spring removed.
How much oil in that suspension????
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Silva rpr motoracing it’s a measurement of distance from the top, not a liquid measurement.
@robertsilvarprmotoracing9083
4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures how measure????
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Silva rpr motoracing you can buy a specialty tool or make your own. I thought I showed how on this video?