Going from 14” square setup to 12” staggered setup
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@factionfx2 жыл бұрын
WOW! I super appreciate this video. Was thinking of getting the XTR and then putting 12" rims/tires (with bighorns or clones) on it, because I want comfort. Now I think I'll just get a base grizzly and add a winch. I was already debating what would I do with those extra wheels/tires. having to switch the brake rotor protector is a dealbreaker. Hell, thinking of just saving all the monies and going kodiak base.
@wheelstandr Жыл бұрын
I am a Can Am owner and love the style of the gold wheels! One of if not the best looking wheels out there. I tried finding some like it but failed.
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Yes I loved the look of the gold wheels too but did not like everything else about 14” square setup so had to give it up.
@8FunGuy8 Жыл бұрын
I like it. I was looking at the same tires for my kodiak. I was torn between getting the 26x11x12 vs 26x12x12 for the rear.
@patriotsyndicate95323 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Grizzly with the 27in Zillas. They are offset... not square. I love it for around my property. We took our four wheelers to Windrock Park. It did great and it was a great place.
@urbanacres7189
3 жыл бұрын
Square means all 4 corners have same size tires and wheels
@patriotsyndicate9532
3 жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 correct. Mine doesn't as I don't have the xtr
@toyota4x4legend
2 жыл бұрын
@@patriotsyndicate9532 technically it is a misnomer since a "square setup" actually creates an offset where the front end becomes wider than the rear. On a standard "staggered" setup , the tires and wheels are different widths but aligned even front to rear from the outside edges.
@rodneymiracle322411 ай бұрын
Black wheels look much better. Wish I would have done the exact set up to mine. I just swapped out my tires for 26 inch bighorns But on 14 inch rims. The rims that came with my special edition were black and looked great. Would have preferred 12 inch wheels though.
@factionfx2 жыл бұрын
Would really like to see an update video. That is, how do you like your new tire setup? This is exactly what I was wanting to do. I'm hoping you say ride quality is VERY improved. Also, haven't bought a machine yet....now that your kodiak and grizzly have the same tire setup, can you compare the ride quality? Preferably with 4 lbs of air in the tires and on fast bumpy trails, as that is where I plan to ride. Thanks and enjoy!
@grizzlygrull2 жыл бұрын
Hi! It doesn't look bad.
@bill_b84402 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Probably going to do the same thing with mine. Question for ya, are the oem 12” rims a different width/offset front to rear or are they the same on all 4 corners?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Yes oem 12” are different width front and rear. I like the narrow wheels and tires in the front for better handling and lighter feel to the steering. More tire choices.
@factionfx Жыл бұрын
Going to do this to my 2019 SE with the factory 14" wheels. Wanting to run some smaller tires on 12" rims. Partzilla shows the same part number for the rings for all four wheels, left, right, front rear. Same number as he shows in the video; I looked it up to see if perhaps there was a different one for left/right/front/rear. BB5-F514A-00-00
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Front and rear have different part numbers. Front is narrower rim.
@charlespalmer58073 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose to change, I have the 2021 Grizzly SE, LOVIN IT
@urbanacres7189
3 жыл бұрын
As the videos states for my needs I did not like the XTR factory setup. I know several other people who do. Try putting this setup and see what a night and day difference it makes it feels your Grizzly is much more nimble and has lot more power. Also I like less wheel and more rubber for off-road comfortable ride. 14” rims are too wide and not a lot of good tire selection. Zillas are terrible tires on hard packed and tar roads.
@samolot101 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Great setup and beautifull Grizzly! I think to put this tires to my Grizzly 550. What you think, will it work ok?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Yes it will work just fine. These tires are not too big. They have gone up in price a lot though like everything else
@drewtrykowski1881 Жыл бұрын
Great video, how are these tires on gravel road at high speeds ?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
They are the best. Only reason you may not like them is if you do deep mud all the time. All round tires and long lasting.
@patriciaplomp38432 жыл бұрын
I drive on the hard stuff and on grass. The Zilla’s rip up the grass. What tyre you recommend for my use? Is the 14x9x26 bighorn 2 a option (all same size) or would your 12” setup work out better for not ripping the grass lawn?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t go with 9” wide tires as the 14” rims itself are 8” wide. Best would be what I did.
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Bighorn 2.0 won’t last as long as the Bighorn originals last. The tread is also more on the original
@patriciaplomp3843
2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 yes true, they say the 2.0 is lighter weight so I thought maybe gives a better ride. I like you set up very much though. Difficult choosing, it’s no cheap mod all together… thanks for your help.
@barneychamorro2 жыл бұрын
Did you try Bighorn 1.0 26x9-14 fronts and 26x11-14 rears with your original XTR 14'' wheels?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
No 14” wheels are too wide 8” or 8.5” That is basically too wide for a 9” wide low profile tire running 5 lbs of air. Especially for an off-road only vehicle.
@jasonmorehouse3756
8 ай бұрын
@@urbanacres7189no they are not too wide. They would have worked just fine
@spyder000069 Жыл бұрын
Which year/model were the 12" rims from?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Current non xtr SE model.
@barneychamorro2 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the black rims?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
OEM - Dealer
@Alexb_17754 ай бұрын
How did it ride!? More snappy and playful??
@urbanacres7189
3 ай бұрын
Correct, feels lighter.
@jonsatvoutdoorchannel66863 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose the OG Bighorn's vs the 2.0's?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
OG are more durable and bigger tread compared to 2.0
@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686
2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 looks great man. I’m waiting on Yamaha to announce their 2022’s I’m more than likely headed back to another Grizzly
@reddfoxx28613 жыл бұрын
How many miles on it. How's it holding up. Thanks.
@urbanacres7189
3 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of miles on my machine but I know several people who put well over 3000 miles a year on it and the machines hold up really well. I have not had any issues with my machine
@m.j.5739 Жыл бұрын
What is the off set of the wheels front and back
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
They are oem Yamaha 12” rims that come on regular Grizzly and Kodiaks
@barneychamorro2 жыл бұрын
26x9x12 fronts 26x12x12 rears ??
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Yes correct
@barneychamorro
Жыл бұрын
Do the 9” wide front tires fit well on the OEM 12” front wheels?
@brennenlee7715 Жыл бұрын
Does the machine feel quicker and have more power with the 12" rims ???
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Not really because I picked heavier tires. But due to skinny fronts steering feels lighter and that is what I was going for.
@brennenlee7715
Жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 the reason why I ask about the felt power is because I just barely traded in a 2017 grizzly that had the 708 motor for a new 2023 grizzly xtr that has the 14" zillas and the 686 motor. The top end power and spirited trail riding is definitely not as good as with my 708 i had on 26" maxxis bighorns just like the setup you have... just was wondering if its the 686 motor that just has less top end power and slightly less performance than the 708 or if it's the heavy tires on the new xtr that make it feel that way... either way I'm missing those 26" bighorns I once had and was wondering if it was worth going back to that setup
@brennenlee7715
Жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 I really like the way yours looks with those all black 12" rims. Looks way better IMO. I think you did good with those rims and bighorn OGs.
@jessecameron7268
11 ай бұрын
@@brennenlee7715the xtr is geared lower from the factory vs the regular grizzly.
@brennenlee7715
11 ай бұрын
@@jessecameron7268 I don't think thats accurate... The latest grizzly with the 686 motor is geared lower than the 708 grizzly was... but the clutching is the same across all models
@nest138 Жыл бұрын
What kind of wheels and offsets?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
These are oem 12” rims. Don’t know all the specs on top of my head. But they come standard on lower trim Grizzly
@frankgonzales9007 Жыл бұрын
What was the rim size and off set thanks frank
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
12” oem rims. They are standard on Grizzly and Kodiaks
@frankgonzales9007
Жыл бұрын
@Urban Acres ok thank you
@mobell73212 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just use the new tires with the 14" rims?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
New tires are for 12” rims. And original 14” rims are designed for square setup that means front rim is same width and the rear rim and too narrow of a tire won’t fit.
@jasonmorehouse3756
8 ай бұрын
@@urbanacres7189they actually would have still fit just fine if you had it. Went with a 14 inch version. The slightly now our rim is not going to make that much of a difference. Perfect. Example is people buying aftermarket rims. They're all the exact same offset yet they still go with the staggered setup. There's no difference.
Пікірлер: 59
WOW! I super appreciate this video. Was thinking of getting the XTR and then putting 12" rims/tires (with bighorns or clones) on it, because I want comfort. Now I think I'll just get a base grizzly and add a winch. I was already debating what would I do with those extra wheels/tires. having to switch the brake rotor protector is a dealbreaker. Hell, thinking of just saving all the monies and going kodiak base.
I am a Can Am owner and love the style of the gold wheels! One of if not the best looking wheels out there. I tried finding some like it but failed.
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Yes I loved the look of the gold wheels too but did not like everything else about 14” square setup so had to give it up.
I like it. I was looking at the same tires for my kodiak. I was torn between getting the 26x11x12 vs 26x12x12 for the rear.
I have a 2019 Grizzly with the 27in Zillas. They are offset... not square. I love it for around my property. We took our four wheelers to Windrock Park. It did great and it was a great place.
@urbanacres7189
3 жыл бұрын
Square means all 4 corners have same size tires and wheels
@patriotsyndicate9532
3 жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 correct. Mine doesn't as I don't have the xtr
@toyota4x4legend
2 жыл бұрын
@@patriotsyndicate9532 technically it is a misnomer since a "square setup" actually creates an offset where the front end becomes wider than the rear. On a standard "staggered" setup , the tires and wheels are different widths but aligned even front to rear from the outside edges.
Black wheels look much better. Wish I would have done the exact set up to mine. I just swapped out my tires for 26 inch bighorns But on 14 inch rims. The rims that came with my special edition were black and looked great. Would have preferred 12 inch wheels though.
Would really like to see an update video. That is, how do you like your new tire setup? This is exactly what I was wanting to do. I'm hoping you say ride quality is VERY improved. Also, haven't bought a machine yet....now that your kodiak and grizzly have the same tire setup, can you compare the ride quality? Preferably with 4 lbs of air in the tires and on fast bumpy trails, as that is where I plan to ride. Thanks and enjoy!
Hi! It doesn't look bad.
Awesome video! Probably going to do the same thing with mine. Question for ya, are the oem 12” rims a different width/offset front to rear or are they the same on all 4 corners?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Yes oem 12” are different width front and rear. I like the narrow wheels and tires in the front for better handling and lighter feel to the steering. More tire choices.
Going to do this to my 2019 SE with the factory 14" wheels. Wanting to run some smaller tires on 12" rims. Partzilla shows the same part number for the rings for all four wheels, left, right, front rear. Same number as he shows in the video; I looked it up to see if perhaps there was a different one for left/right/front/rear. BB5-F514A-00-00
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Front and rear have different part numbers. Front is narrower rim.
Why did you choose to change, I have the 2021 Grizzly SE, LOVIN IT
@urbanacres7189
3 жыл бұрын
As the videos states for my needs I did not like the XTR factory setup. I know several other people who do. Try putting this setup and see what a night and day difference it makes it feels your Grizzly is much more nimble and has lot more power. Also I like less wheel and more rubber for off-road comfortable ride. 14” rims are too wide and not a lot of good tire selection. Zillas are terrible tires on hard packed and tar roads.
Hello. Great setup and beautifull Grizzly! I think to put this tires to my Grizzly 550. What you think, will it work ok?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Yes it will work just fine. These tires are not too big. They have gone up in price a lot though like everything else
Great video, how are these tires on gravel road at high speeds ?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
They are the best. Only reason you may not like them is if you do deep mud all the time. All round tires and long lasting.
I drive on the hard stuff and on grass. The Zilla’s rip up the grass. What tyre you recommend for my use? Is the 14x9x26 bighorn 2 a option (all same size) or would your 12” setup work out better for not ripping the grass lawn?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t go with 9” wide tires as the 14” rims itself are 8” wide. Best would be what I did.
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Bighorn 2.0 won’t last as long as the Bighorn originals last. The tread is also more on the original
@patriciaplomp3843
2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 yes true, they say the 2.0 is lighter weight so I thought maybe gives a better ride. I like you set up very much though. Difficult choosing, it’s no cheap mod all together… thanks for your help.
Did you try Bighorn 1.0 26x9-14 fronts and 26x11-14 rears with your original XTR 14'' wheels?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
No 14” wheels are too wide 8” or 8.5” That is basically too wide for a 9” wide low profile tire running 5 lbs of air. Especially for an off-road only vehicle.
@jasonmorehouse3756
8 ай бұрын
@@urbanacres7189no they are not too wide. They would have worked just fine
Which year/model were the 12" rims from?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Current non xtr SE model.
Where did you buy the black rims?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
OEM - Dealer
How did it ride!? More snappy and playful??
@urbanacres7189
3 ай бұрын
Correct, feels lighter.
Why did you choose the OG Bighorn's vs the 2.0's?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
OG are more durable and bigger tread compared to 2.0
@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686
2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 looks great man. I’m waiting on Yamaha to announce their 2022’s I’m more than likely headed back to another Grizzly
How many miles on it. How's it holding up. Thanks.
@urbanacres7189
3 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of miles on my machine but I know several people who put well over 3000 miles a year on it and the machines hold up really well. I have not had any issues with my machine
What is the off set of the wheels front and back
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
They are oem Yamaha 12” rims that come on regular Grizzly and Kodiaks
26x9x12 fronts 26x12x12 rears ??
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
Yes correct
@barneychamorro
Жыл бұрын
Do the 9” wide front tires fit well on the OEM 12” front wheels?
Does the machine feel quicker and have more power with the 12" rims ???
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
Not really because I picked heavier tires. But due to skinny fronts steering feels lighter and that is what I was going for.
@brennenlee7715
Жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 the reason why I ask about the felt power is because I just barely traded in a 2017 grizzly that had the 708 motor for a new 2023 grizzly xtr that has the 14" zillas and the 686 motor. The top end power and spirited trail riding is definitely not as good as with my 708 i had on 26" maxxis bighorns just like the setup you have... just was wondering if its the 686 motor that just has less top end power and slightly less performance than the 708 or if it's the heavy tires on the new xtr that make it feel that way... either way I'm missing those 26" bighorns I once had and was wondering if it was worth going back to that setup
@brennenlee7715
Жыл бұрын
@@urbanacres7189 I really like the way yours looks with those all black 12" rims. Looks way better IMO. I think you did good with those rims and bighorn OGs.
@jessecameron7268
11 ай бұрын
@@brennenlee7715the xtr is geared lower from the factory vs the regular grizzly.
@brennenlee7715
11 ай бұрын
@@jessecameron7268 I don't think thats accurate... The latest grizzly with the 686 motor is geared lower than the 708 grizzly was... but the clutching is the same across all models
What kind of wheels and offsets?
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
These are oem 12” rims. Don’t know all the specs on top of my head. But they come standard on lower trim Grizzly
What was the rim size and off set thanks frank
@urbanacres7189
Жыл бұрын
12” oem rims. They are standard on Grizzly and Kodiaks
@frankgonzales9007
Жыл бұрын
@Urban Acres ok thank you
Why didn't you just use the new tires with the 14" rims?
@urbanacres7189
2 жыл бұрын
New tires are for 12” rims. And original 14” rims are designed for square setup that means front rim is same width and the rear rim and too narrow of a tire won’t fit.
@jasonmorehouse3756
8 ай бұрын
@@urbanacres7189they actually would have still fit just fine if you had it. Went with a 14 inch version. The slightly now our rim is not going to make that much of a difference. Perfect. Example is people buying aftermarket rims. They're all the exact same offset yet they still go with the staggered setup. There's no difference.