E-Bike Question of the Day ⚡🚴 How far do you hope a commuter can take you before the battery needs to be recharged? Let us know in the comments below 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

My first time on site as looking for the Yamaha as my local motorcycle dealer has just got them in. Fantastic and very comprehensive review. You should be proud of yourselves for what you do as you are certainly excellent. Well done and thank you. John

@ElectricBikeReport

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! It's easy when the bike is awesome. :)

Excellent review thanks. I own a crosscore and you guys are right on. Now I'm going to get the rc.

@ElectricBikeReport

4 ай бұрын

Right on!

Really great quality and great range. Not sure how many people are gonna spend that much on a commuter bike, but it seems to be working for them.

Great review. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the other models.

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! We're looking forward to reviewing them!

wow what a bike, this one would be great for the wind tunnel test~! 🚲🌪 great review~!

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

What a super and extensive review. Thank you.

@ElectricBikeReport

3 ай бұрын

You bet! That's what we do! Thanks for watching.

This looks great, I would love to review this for my channel!!!

Fantastic review! One of the very best I have ever watched. I must say I am a bit of a Yamaha expert as the Crosscore was my very first ebike. I loved the motor but hated the stiff, punishing ride. The original Crosscore did not have front suspension and came with 700x 38 tires which just made for a harsh ride. I personally felt the handlebars were too narrow for my liking and would have preferred a bit more upright riding position. I am 6'1" and even Yamahas Large size frame felt too small for me. I was told by Yamaha that since the bike was made and originated in Japan, the sizing was basically more fit for folks shorter than me. Yamaha should offer an xlarge frame since the Large seems a bit smaller than other brands Large. My Crosscore also came with a double chain ring on the front which was very rare for an ebike. The battery on mine was also not integrated with the frame. All in all Yamaha made some nice changes to this bring to bring it up to more current standards. I would like to see a suspension seat post for 3K as well as an upgraded saddle and grips to go along with a wider handlebar.

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kudos! We'd like those additions too, but fortunately they're pretty easy to swap out.

@jasonbannan4024

3 ай бұрын

Was your range similar?

Subscribed. Very thorough review of the Yamaha Cross Core. I've owned a Yamaha PW powered Haibike Full FatSix since winter, 2016/17. My PW is basically what the 2023 ST motor is, today. My long term ownership observations which should easily apply to any prospective buyer of this Yamaha: In 19,000 plus miles of riding the bike (and being a fat tired, dual suspension ebike, I have pretty much ridden exclusively in the High Power setting), there have been zero issues with the motor, the display, the motor control switch or the 4 batteries I have for this bike (the original 400wh supplemented with 3 additional 500wh batteries, all externally mounted unlike this Cross Core). Range: Riding exclusively in High Power; average of 77 RPM, I'll travel at an average speed of 13 mph. At High Power, my range has always been a solid near 40 miles of range. I do this by spinning the pedals lightly and keeping a watchful eye on the power meter, keeping the power output of the motor to a minimum, which gets the max mileage out of a full charge. One day trip I did 100 miles on a combination of asphalt and canal towpath trails, on my 400wh battery and riding exclusively in the ECO+ setting. I ended the day with over 25% battery charge remaining. Observations on that ride: Eco+ and Eco are irrelevant for a fat tired ebike with alot of friction drag from those tires. It's where I began being a real convert to riding in High power! These new Yamaha bikes are a great bargain in what is a superior ebike drive system. If there were a beef I had with Yamaha Ebikes USA, it's that they can better refine these bikes by offering a piggyback 500wh external battery on that great big open space between the top and downtubes. That would create a real 100 mile plus range using a combination of High and Standard power settings.

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for subscribing and for the extra info, I'm sure this will be helpful.

@MM-iw4fv

4 ай бұрын

I'm very close to purchase based on the EBR review & comments the current incentives that include an additional 500 wh battery are pretty good . Question re 2nd battery Whats the best way to maintain two batteries if one is mostly going to be stored, not carried on the bike, and at the same time preserve their longevity ? I understand the life span is typically 3-5 years for an ebike battery. Storing safely is a big concern.

@michaelnotigan7796

4 ай бұрын

As I have 4 batteries on hand (3-500wh's & the original 2016 400wh battery), I rotate batteries when using the Haibike). Storage: I keep them in my bedroom, off the charger. The room temp is consistent, which helps to not put the batteries under any kind of temperature stress. Plus it's a dry environment. I throw standard storage convention out the window that recommends storing the battery at 50-70% of charge capacity; after a ride, I simply let the Yamaha charger charge the battery to 100% and I store it for the next rides to come. To this day, my batteries still deliver a 100% charge and battery perforance is at or near 100%. I will caution, do not store in a humid or hot place like a garage. Do not grease the contacts or hose down the battery or motor. Do not, absolutely do not drop the battery. Let the Yamaha charger do it's thing and you'll find like me that you will get a very, very long life from your batteries!@@MM-iw4fv

Thank you. My neighbor has the bike and I'm seriously considering it.

@ElectricBikeReport

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! You can't go wrong, it's a great bike.

Another great review of a very nice ebike. Sadly, my back and neck no longer tolerate such a forward-leaning riding posture, so it’s not a fit for me. Too bad, because that auto mode seems pretty cool. You mention this in your written review but not here. Yamaha uses an inclinometer to tailor the amount of assist provided and probably uses it to increase range by reducing assist when it thinks you’re going downhill. It’s a feature that would enhance any ebike as I find I have to change the PAS level on my torque sensor ebike frequently as the grade changes.

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

The inclinometer was very interesting and we're looking forward to seeing more of it in action.

This is the type of bike that interests me. Although not in my price range. The concept of building closer to resembling more like a bicycle instead of a John deere tractor with big fat tires. Doesn't even have to be mid drive. 500 watt - 750 watt hub drive would be acceptable. Upgrading the suspension could come a little further down the road. Just trying to afford something to get into the game . Thanks for your review

@ElectricBikeReport

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Could you do a follow up with the right brakes? Is it the same as the gravel bike?

Nice ebike…just curious though…is there enough clearance to handle fat bike tires? I know I would have to replace front fork, but would the rear accommodate the extra width? I currently have the Wabash and I would like to add another ebike by Yamaha. Thanks

Wait, did I miss something? How come you didn't test this bike on Hell Hole without pedaling like you guys normally do for all your other e-bike ascent tests? BTW, the mileage max of 100+ miles is insane and very attractive, esp. to us folks who like bicycle touring. Well done, Yamaha!

@JookySeaCpt

7 ай бұрын

It’s a mid drive motor and doesn’t have a throttle, so you have to pedal.

@FlowJunkie65

7 ай бұрын

@@JookySeaCpt Ah, I just assumed that all e-bikes came with a throttle. Thanks for letting me know. 👍

As always, Yamaha is quality, ease, and satisfaction.

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

Hope you guys review the newer, updated Yamaha Wabash RT. Seems to be a real winner! Thanks!

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

That one is in the works right now! Keep an eye out for the review in 2024.

@FlowJunkie65

7 ай бұрын

@@ElectricBikeReport AWESOME!!! BTW, major props to you guys -- you guys do outstanding e-bike reviews - thank you! Happy Holidays to all of you guys and your families!

I'm more interested in the regular CrossCore without the suspension fork. Have you tested that bike? The CrossCore Specs are different: Lighter frame without a suspension fork, 700C wheels with more narrow tires and a 2x9 drive train. Motor and battery specs seem similar but is the power management software different? The CrossCore looks like a more interesting bike. Do you have plans to test it or do you have comparison data from Yamaha?

Do you have a projected release date for your review of the Yamaha Wabash RT? I am considering both of these bikes and would love to see your review of the Wabash. Thanks!

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

We're hoping to film our video review for that next week, so it'll likely be sometime in January with editing, a break for the holidays, etc.

That's a nice orange too. Looks like lava.

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Super catchy for sure.

Oh my! Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki better get on the ball with their offerings. 😂

Question for you please, Where is that beautiful paved bike trail in the canyons located ?? Wish there were more paved bike trails all over in America.

@ElectricBikeReport

5 ай бұрын

We're based in St. George, UT, and that section is called the Cottonwood Wash trail. We wish for that as well!

Very impressive bike for 250 watt mid drive and only a 36V 500 wh battery . I'm starting to think more of this type of bike. Just not sure it's worth passing on a Wired Freedom.

Where is this test being done i.e. state and city, it looks beautiful.

@ElectricBikeReport

4 ай бұрын

We're located in St. George, Utah!

I'm a heavy guy and I couldn't find what the riders weight limit is. Any idea? Thanks in advance!

@ElectricBikeReport

6 ай бұрын

We had to ask Yamaha about that - it's 275 lbs.

@PeeVee1979

6 ай бұрын

@@ElectricBikeReport Thank you! So thats's just for the rider, not the rider and the bike weight combined, like some manufacturers say? I won't be taking it to any rough terrains,

Comparison of how easy it is to pedal after the battery is empty?

@ElectricBikeReport

2 ай бұрын

It pedals very well with no pedal assist; the mid-drive helps to keep the weight balanced and manageable.

does anyone know what app they are using on the phone for the speedometer?

@ElectricBikeReport

Ай бұрын

It's this one: apps.apple.com/us/app/speedometer-simple/id939507215

@darylgould1036

Ай бұрын

@@ElectricBikeReport thanks mate, nice one

Where are you. Love those big rocks

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

Our home base is St. George, UT! We're fortunate to be able to enjoy some seriously cool scenery.

@doziershaw9765

7 ай бұрын

yall should do a review pedaling up Zion Canyon for a change of scenery

I would like to see bikes with at least 800Wh batteries.. this would mean 150 miles odd

@ElectricBikeReport

16 күн бұрын

We're looking forward to solid state batteries in the future. This should give 2x the range with the same size and weight as lithium ion.

My man why is no throttle on the Yamaha I have a throttle on my Velotric Discover bike and I like it buddy.🤠👍👉🌮

@ElectricBikeReport

7 ай бұрын

It would be great to have one, but this bike is super easy to pedal with max assist.

These ones ????????

For $2900.00 its a stay at the dealer bike for me. Wow not much there for $2900.00?

@JSBozick

7 ай бұрын

Honestly it’s all about that ride feel. They really have that mid-drive dialed in!

@Roxlimn

7 ай бұрын

You’re essentially paying for Yamaha’s ebike drive system on what is a well-executed but quite basic city bike platform. The question is, is that worth the money for you? I would say it depends. You’re not paying for power here. If you want mo’ powa’ then get an electric motorcycle. That’s Yamaha’s broad perspective on this, being also a motorcycle company. Basically if you want a motorized feel, get a fully motorized bike - a motorcycle. So what this is is an assisted bike carefully engineered to deliver a cycling feel, even at high levels of assistance. You’re paying for the man-machine interface. That’s why it’s so smooth and well-executed. That’s where your money goes. Is it better than Bosch? I haven’t owned a Bosch bike, but I have ridden some. Between Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano, and Brose, I would say Yamaha is the most versatile and most appropriate for city riders, bike tourers, and casual riders. Hardcore MTB’ers want Bosch’s support at very high cadences, and do not much mind its lower power at low cadences. They don’t mash very much. Brose prides itself on its extremely natural feel, but it’s hard to coax more power out of it when you really need the help. Both Yamaha and Shimano somehow nail the feel of the bike feeling very natural to ride, but offering you support when you start really feeling the weight of your climb. Of the two, Yamaha’s is better executed, IMO. I have bikes with Yamaha and Shimano systems.

@aaronbehindbars

5 ай бұрын

$500 + plus a spare battery is being offered through the end of March 2024. I'm considering one.

@Neverlost3234

4 ай бұрын

Bought one today for 2100 out the door with the second battery. Not sure why I need the second but will take it

@nexderm5606

3 ай бұрын

From an online retailer?