Hanlon’s Razor : “Never attribute to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity.”

@GeemailMailboxx

Ай бұрын

Me: Occums Duct tape type of person. 😂😉

@TesterAnimal1

Ай бұрын

What is the modern version of that? Never attribute to stupidity what can possibly be explained by a tortured and paranoid conspiracy theory?

@matteframe

Ай бұрын

Or negligence..

@kevc6115

Ай бұрын

@@TesterAnimal1 😂😂😂

@Electric_Automation

Ай бұрын

Also, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".

The FBI is looking for a mean tweet from the ship

@Rottingboards

Ай бұрын

The bridge invasion theory came directly from Truth Social website.

@patrickdeshaw7666

Ай бұрын

​@@RottingboardsRemember these are the same people that thought they were actually sailors...then came the "trump flotilla". Maybe they didn't grasp the concept of "float".

@aday1637

Ай бұрын

The FBI is conducting this investigation to make sure the vessel was equiped with properly desginated rest room facilities (men, women & either).

@Rottingboards

Ай бұрын

@@aday1637 The FBI is to busy with real crimes like Jan 6th a$$ wipes.

@GeorgeStar

Ай бұрын

And for HIllary's emails.

An 'accident' is one thing. A preventable 'accident' due to negligence is a different matter.

@kevc6115

Ай бұрын

All accidents are preventable!

@TheGhungFu

Ай бұрын

@@kevc6115 Chaos and randomness make that statement false. Or maybe you consider yourself omnipotent?

@kevc6115

Ай бұрын

@@TheGhungFu sorry but I stand by my statement! Chaos and randomness mean nothing.

@ronbelanger4113

Ай бұрын

@@kevc6115 Remember that as you watch the huge rock roll down hill toward you.

@kevc6115

Ай бұрын

@@ronbelanger4113 If I choose to be in a place where a rock may fall on me, then that is a calculated risk I have taken. If you're talking about a rock that may fall in a road that I am driving by, then the engineers took a calculated risk to put the road there.

OMG the invasion theory, I genuinely had a laugh out loud moment!

@johnstreet797

Ай бұрын

The invading artesian ships need a lot of room due to the amount of water they have to carry.

@frednone

Ай бұрын

Personally, if I was going to invade the US I would try to come through Canada or Mexico, the Port of Baltimore would be kinda far down on the list.

@greyshadow9498

Ай бұрын

@@frednone Yeah whoever came up with that theory obviously never been to Baltimore, Iran wouldn't even invade Baltimore... 🤣 Not to mention, anyone trying to reach Baltimore harbor would have to sail right past Naval Station Norfolk and the Atlantic Fleet (plus a fighter base). Not the best tactic, especially for a meager target.

@jearlblah5169

Ай бұрын

Also no one but the US really has a large expeditionary military that could invade us. They don’t have the logistics set up to operate for long periods of time away from their home region.

@G-ra-ha-m

Ай бұрын

Yes, but as an attack on the economy, it works. Many conspiracies (plans) are carried out these days, it's normal the think about the motives (theorise) about such events. Any history book is full of them, cover to cover.

Yacht Explosion: An electric bow thruster may be installed with its own battery, in order to cut voltage drop under heavy load. This sort of installation is quite common on boats of this size. If the battery is a lead acid type (they are better at handling high peak loads) then over charging can result in the release of a mix of hydrogen and oxygen, which would sit in the bow compartment waiting for a spark...

That looked like a vapor explosion we had on the fuel dock I worked at , blew out the hatches and blew out of the cabin entry as well

@timbarnes2259

Ай бұрын

Yes, fuel can cause such explosions if it is not allowed to settle after fully filling tanks, or an air vent is blocked.. Gas leaks from onboard gas cookers can also cause explosions.. Possibly no fire as the onboard automatic fire retardant system kicked in..?

The FBI. In good hands then... 🤣

@asumazilla

Ай бұрын

Trump did this.

@TesterAnimal1

Ай бұрын

I suppose you want the FSB. 😐

@DavidLucas-zq8gb

Ай бұрын

Still waiting to hear the result of their investigation into Epstein's island.

@maobfh

Ай бұрын

Hahahaha!!!

@foxxster3565

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they will find Donald Trump was at the helm at the time it hit the bridge.

THANKS ESYSMAN 🤗 for the update💚💚💚

Thanks once again my friend for the update video...... Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸

Thank you for info ❤

Failed Boat Investigators will get to the bottom of it and the Hull truth will come out, but $44 million seems a little low, is that scrap value ?

@DavidLucas-zq8gb

Ай бұрын

I wonder if the scrap will be sent to China like the scrap from the twin towers?

@72hourbob61

Ай бұрын

I think 44 million is very low. I would think 100's of million's but they will get off paying 44 and the tax payer(s) will get to cover the rest.

@BrianM0OAB

Ай бұрын

@@72hourbob61 I d recall years ago that in Asia they pay in excess of 100 million to scrap them and thats without containers with goods in them.

@feoxorus

Ай бұрын

They and their insurers are on the hook for BILLIONS. The ship itself is a pittance. They are also screwing their customers, the owners of the containers of cargo.

@srf2112

22 күн бұрын

It's connected to old maritime law that limits the ship owners liability to the value of the ship or something to that effect.

It looks to me that the comment that a fire was reported forward before the explosion is correct. Likely an electrical fire from the bow thrusters. I suspect the explosion was secondary after the heat got to something volatile. You can see after the breach that there is already enough heat built up in the bow to be a full on fire event.

Yup, as soon as I saw the word FBI (ok, not really a word per se), criminal neglegence came to mind. A possibility of not enough safety diligence applied somewhere.

@tyronetrump1612

Ай бұрын

as soon as I saw the letters FBI I immediately thought " incompetence"

@blackrabbit212

Ай бұрын

@@tyronetrump1612 'Famous But Incompetent' I was always told.

@lewishenderson7004

Ай бұрын

exactly when the FBI is involved they are cleaning up their most recent false flag event. FBI stands for lying cheating and murder

The Key Bridge would still be standing if adequate protection of the vital bridge piers had existed. While there may have been negligence and/or incompetence onboard the Dali, the real negligence is failure to protect the bridge piers.

@Electric_Automation

Ай бұрын

last port upgrade the port authority looked at installing dolphins, but decided it was to expensive.

@teeanahera8949

Ай бұрын

Such large ship were not dreamt about in the 1970’s when it was built. Sure there should have been remediation with the building of dolphins more recently.

@teeanahera8949

Ай бұрын

@@Electric_Automationto expensive to what? If you write *too expensive then we might know what you mean.

@patrickdeshaw7666

Ай бұрын

And the cost should've been borne by the companies that supervised these behemoths purely for their own profit. This should be a cost of doing business for them.​ @@teeanahera8949

@patrickdeshaw7666

Ай бұрын

The structural reason for this disaster is our notoriously unsafe infrastructure. If people would stop voting their emotions and electing guys like trump, who blab about non-existent "infrastructure weeks", we could've addressed this long ago. At least now, infrastructure isn't a week, it's a policy with funding. Thanks to the voters that made it happen!

Thanks!

@eSysmanSuperYachts

Ай бұрын

Thanks you!

Regarding the yacht explosion. Isn't it more likely the bow thruster is hydraulic rather than electric? I can't see an electric thruster exploding like that. If one were to overheat, I think it would start a fire, not explode.

@bobsullivan5714

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking......A ruptured hydraulic hose under high pressure could spray vaporized hydraulic oil everywhere.

Looks like a lithium blast on that yacht

Regarding the yacht. Marine systems usually have very good interrupt protection (fuses/breakers). Where things go wrong is where people defeat them for whatever reason and bypass them. Unlimited current can cause extreme damage to cables, batteries immediate surroundings. That first smoke reminds me of a LifePo4 battery burst from an extreme short. Mostly over and done with quickly and can be easily extinguished unlike an EV or E-bike which maintains thermal runaway.

A great report and I think it's just awful for someone to have drowned in his or her car with that bridge collision.

Just looking at water surface at bow, doesn't look like there is any "prop wash" from the bow thruster, indicating that it was even working. Perhaps it wasn't the fault of the bow thruster?

@Orxenhorf

Ай бұрын

Plus, an electric motor itself has no way to explode no matter how much it heats up, at worst it might shatter. Something else like batteries or fuel vapor had to be involved. (Maybe they could have had fuel stored right up next to the thruster motor and had vaporized it from the heat, but I don't think anyone would ever design a boat like that.)

I think the lunatic that stated the need for a 185ft clearance for warships was talking about the height requirement. However, whilst Mr Brainiac had solved the height clearance issue by knocking the bridge down, he had created a draught problem. No one has ever accused a Conspiracy Theorist of being smart.

@Orxenhorf

Ай бұрын

And never mind that the Bay Bridge usually has slightly less clearance than the FSK had, and you'd have to pass under it first.

@eSysman SuperYachts Thanks for the update on the Dali. Do you know if a ferry system would be practical for commuters until there is a new bridge?

I thought some bow thrusters were hydraulic. If so a small leak could work much like a diesel injector misting the fluid making it much easier to combust.

@rgarito

Ай бұрын

Yes, some of them are hydraulic and some are electric. With an explosion like that, I'm thinking hydraulic line rupture hit an ignition source.

@72hourbob61

Ай бұрын

@@rgarito That was my 1st guess also.

Here's one more: According to an eastern European acquaintance who’s a container ship captain and who has sailed to the port of Baltimore scores of times, he believes the problem was because the ship switched fuels too early. This isn’t my analysis because I barely know port from starboard. I also didn’t know that a lot of seaports around the world are in defined environmental control areas. To reduce air pollution in and around the ports, ships are required to switch to a cleaner diesel fuel before they enter a port. When they go back to sea, they switch back to a thicker, dirtier and cheaper fuel after leaving that control area. Modern diesel ship engines are apparently built to be dual-fuel. The fuel switch to the “clean” and more expensive fuel usually happens a half-hour or so before entering the control area to be certain that the fuel lines are completely purged of "dirty" diesel. Conversely, the switch to the dirtier fuel happens just before it leaves the control area, which would be after passing Key Bridge. Given the late hour that the Dali left port, his theory is that they started the engine with clean diesel but then switched immediately over to the dirty fuel early so the chief engineer could hit the sack rather than wait the hour or so to do the switch after clearing Baltimore harbor. As it left the dock it would still have the thinner, clean diesel in the feed pipes so everything was running fine until it sucked it all up and started pulling thick diesel. That’s where he thinks the problem was. That thick diesel needs to be heated to a fairly high temperature to be viscous enough to flow and it uses the heat of the running engine to do this. However if the engine isn’t running, as it wouldn’t be while the ship was docked, the oil wouldn’t be hot enough to pass through the injectors and that could lead to the engine shutting down.

@katharinatrub1338

Ай бұрын

...hence the black smoke ?

@xanadu6802

Ай бұрын

This theory makes the most sense!

@zr1pja

Ай бұрын

They did not pay the port charges and the harbour master cut the power.

@joelmartin2549

Ай бұрын

Not knowing anything about it, it sounds good. But who knows, no matter the truth they will tell us what ever they want us to believe.

@patrickdeshaw7666

Ай бұрын

​@@joelmartin2549They'll announce the results of their investigation...and a bunch of uneducated and over-emotional Americans will immediately run in every possible direction except straight ahead. It will be entertaining and stupid all at once. And not surprising. In fact, one of the earliest and dumbest comments came from, you guessed it, truth social. 'Nuf said?

Thanks....

The bridge main pillar dolphin collision protection was proved pitifully inadequate. Hopefully that will be corrected on the installation of the replacement bridge sections. The increase in marine traffic and the size of the ships using this facility should make the improvements in safety a mandatory requirement.

There are several backup systems to supply steering if power is lost.

Tugboats prevent accidents like this. But the harbour manager has a new swimmingpool and a mansion around it.

A blackout is the scariest event for a ship. Blackouts happen, this blackout has occurred at the worst time ever.

The Ever Forward was stuck in the mud for 35 days by the pilot Steven Germac in March 2022 and the shipping line still had to pay $676,000 to rehabilitate oysters and crabs in the bay while the pilot avoided a $2,000 fine and an official reprimand by forfeiting his license. My concern is how biased the FBI investigation will be now that they're taking over from the NTSB and President Bobo has said the US taxpayers will rebuild the bridge instead of the 2 most likely suspects the pilot or the ship owner.

The Francis Scott Key bridge had an excess of concrete on it's road bed causing a burdened structure. The same concrete is making the bridge remains an ordeal to remove.

That bridge is so far in harbor that the range of a naval barrage would not be affected if a flotilla was anchored on the outlet side of it.

Told ya (you immediately said "conspiracy theory"🤪).

The smoke was not from anything exploding. The smoke was from the engines restarting…which means the engines completely failed during “lights out”

That was a flash over fire in that bow.

The biggest stumbling block I have with most conspiracy theories is they mostly fail the, would there be an easier/cheaper way to accomplish the same thing?

Is this incident unprecedented? It seems awfully strange for such a disaster to even be possible.

Very suspicious explanation involving the bow thruster. Odd.

I assume if it was electric bow thruster it would be DC battery based, and the batteries could have had thermal runaway due to high current draw of using the thruster, which then if flooded cells ignited the hydrogen off-gassing. Just a thought, I could be very wrong, but with the rapid violent explosion coming out of the forward hatch it makes sense.

If indeed, not an accident, and some type of conspiracy involved. I would say that the investigation should concentrate on the cargo the ship was hauling, unloading, and picking up. Supposedly, before arriving at Baltimore, the ship was at Norfolk. I certainly have no idea, but reflect back to that Suez Canal incident when the Evergreen ship went aground. Supposedly then, the ship was boarded and weapons were found headed for a location, somewhere in the Middle East.

Nothing is an accident when it comes to management failures. It’s usually something related to saving money which usually translates to cutting safety corners

Maybe shipping companies or insurers will avoid ports based on hazards like poorly protected bridges.

Fire, looking at the pressure coming from the forward hatch and smoke moving fast aft it looks to be from gas mixture ignited from electrical equipment operating. Any leaking LPG or Petrol being stored would settle in the bilge. If this was not purged then an explosion like this is possible. An electrical motor would not emit flame in that way.

@rp1645

Ай бұрын

YES that was the first thing I thought also. Possibly storage of a gas can ( tank) for tender, "O" there is room in here to store it to get it off the desk. It would be interesting to see what hatches the vessel had on the bow.

I have held back on asking these two questions: Why did the Dali leave in the middle of the night with electrical issues? Why didn't the tugboats assist navigation to the Dali all the way under the Francis Scott Key Bridge? Thank you.

@MrMilothedog

Ай бұрын

Re: Electrical Issues: Whether they left with known electrical issue will be determined by investigation. RE: Tugboats: it is not usual procedure in that port to escort vessels through the bridge. That “operating procedure” may change when a new bridge is built here and with other existing bridges nationwide in the future.

@BobBobber-pi3dc

Ай бұрын

Your welcome

@Chris_at_Home

Ай бұрын

They always wait till after an accident to put preventative measures in place. After the Exxon Valdez tugs had to escort tankers through Prince William Sound. It would have been a lot cheaper if they had them before the spill.

@grondhero

Ай бұрын

The tugs can't babysit every ship for its entire journey. Their purpose is primarily to get them in/out of dock. The Dali was on a straight path and the tugs were going to their next ship to escort. According to every video I've ever seen from tugboat captains, there aren't enough people to fully man the tugs they have, so trying to get _more_ tugs isn't a feasible option. The problem here really exposed the weakness of the pathetic protection the Key bridge had. They could have improved the protections over a 50 year time span, but never did. There was literally _one_ dolphin (pillar in the water) to protect the bridge from that side.

@joelmartin2549

Ай бұрын

@@grondhero, they never had the money to spare to protect the bridge, they needed it for their pet projects, most recently The get Russia project more commonly known as the Ukraine war.

3:26 - Few have mentioned that Julie Mitchell is a company officer, not a low level rumor monger.

Water can catch on fire and explode. The vessel probably encountered a leak and took on water which then was ignited by an electrical source and exploded. At the time of the incident it was reported this yacht was operating in an altered universe.

All shipping entering and exiting these harbors should have Tug escorts preventing problems like this.

Bow thrusters could be hydraulic / fluid is flammable?

It lost control coming out of the Dock then headed to the bridge

As what this lady said about power issues it seems that they should have stayed in port for sure. Yacht that caught fire may not trip a breaker but still cause a fire. The short circuit may not be pulling enough amperage but still cause a smoldering fire that finally explodes.

Whare was the tug Boats to bring them in and out of port.?

I'm just confused on the black smoke from the stacks just before the crash. They said there was no power or direction change recorded.😮

@liam3284

Ай бұрын

Either blowing out the engine, or the generator(s) were making black smoke. They are about 4MW each, about the size of a locomotive engine.

Wherever duty calls, you can count on the FBI to get to the bottom of the mystery. Whoever it was who kept flipping the light switch was oblivious to the danger he/she was causing. That individual must be located and punished.

#4 the ship lost power multiple times with flashing lights before bridge impact. Was supposed to go underneath.

Clearance refers to air draft not beam.

Why were there no large tugs piloting them out of the bay?

Just to add to your amazing knowledge, the USS Gerald R. Ford is 1092 feet (333m) lang and has a beam of 256 feet (78m). Russian Kuznetsov class carriers are 305m long with a beam of 72m. The Ford displaces 100,000 Long Tons (full load) and the Kuznetsov class 58,600 Long Tons (full load). There are three Kuznetsov class carries, the Admiral Kuznetsov which took four decades to build and is under going a years long refit and the two Chinese carriers. I don' really have two much worry over any of these ships sailing up the Delaware, neither the Russians or the Chinese could operate these ships that far from home.

@teeanahera8949

Ай бұрын

The hull beam is about 41m not 78m of the Gerald Ford. The flight deck is obviously 78m.

it was a insident no intention behind !

Our Vetus bow thruster recently suffered a burnt out relay resulting in the unit running flat out until the gearbox exploded. Only stopped motor by cutting power supply.

@oz2pe

Ай бұрын

or maybe the truster battery leaked gas that ignited

@skunkjobb

Ай бұрын

My Sleipner bow thruster also got stuck on so I slightly damaged another boat. There was no manual switch so I had to disconnect the cable with a few hundred amps running through, not a pleasant experience. After that I installed a disconnect switch with wired remote control so I can quickly cut the power from the helms.

@skunkjobb

Ай бұрын

@@oz2pe That sounds like a likely explanation.

So the thing about criminals is they usually do their best to prevent evidence from being found, so lack of it doesn't mean nothing intentional. As far as hacking steering, not being internet connected just means it would have to have been an inside job. I subscribe to the accident theory myself, but we cannot definitively rule out foul play.

Probably a battery for the bow thruster.

Fuel stored in bow locker combined with spark from bow thruster?

I still wonder why the issues at the dock were ignored for the first few days. Even on the internet. I asked about it for a few days after I heard somebody almost casually mention it, but it was like nobody cared. So now three weeks later the FBI finds out about the probable cause and wants to examine the old information...? Always seemed to me that the company ordered them to leave the port and fix the problem at sea.

diesel (better gasoline) in the bilge? (looked like the explosion happened all along the keel at the same time)

That argument for limiting liability sounds a bit like, to me, saying you should only liable for the $2000 your car cost if you were driving drunk, lost control and ran over 20 pedestrians, killing half of them. WTH?

Hacking is probably out of the question for that particular vessel. But newer Kongsberg propulsion control systems and a lot of alarm monitoring and control systems have the option to go online for remote diagnostics and assistance. I did hear that it’s a requirement to have remote diagnostics for some newer MTU engines. If someone happens to leave the internet access key switch in the wrong position it’s not out of the realms of possibility.

@Electric_Automation

Ай бұрын

the remote access your talking about is read only access, normally a separate computer with no control functions.

@trewjohn2001

Ай бұрын

@@Electric_Automation it’s not for all systems. I’ve worked with them. They can make live changes.

Crazy how nobody believes it could be an accident. There could have been a component failure that wasn't previously know of, a simple relay has many failure points. And I would say a reefer tripping the ship's main breaker is not likely, it would have tripped a much smaller breaker meant for the reefers. The Dali will be pulled apart until something is found, it might be something as simple as a small wire concealed inside a plug broke, I've seen many complex machines go down for such things. Nothing lasts forever, not even the sun.

Nimitz class aircraft carriers have an air draft of 243 feet (74 meters)

Considering that shortly after this, another ship "lost power" and almost hit a bridge in Oklahoma is more than sus! Also that both bridges are 2 of *_very few_* port bridges in the U.S. that DON'T have bumpers to protect the pylons. I'd like to see the original plans and budgets for those bridges! Did they call for bumpers and were left off to save money? Or did taxpayers pay for bumpers and not get them? So many questions that need to be asked that don't involve speculators of terrorism ...that is already a given in most people's minds.

I wonder if that yacht explosion was a backdraft

What’s criminal is this could’ve been avoided. Had they just let the tugboats get the ship out to a safe channel. It’s all about money 💴💰 I love your videos… I was crew on a Gulfstream jet owned by a rich Arab based in Nice France for several years… So some things in common there. He also owned a very big yacht “Lady Mauro”

The real crime is Homeland Security not requiring a powerful tug either side of the gigantic ship bow going through such a narrow bridge channel.

Something electrical happened with lights or a few major engine fuses blew out. Unexpected. Maybe giant waves caused this.

Saw a report about types of fuel. They claimed. There is fuel for in port, and fuel for at sea. They often attempt to save money by changing over to at sea fuel, as soon as possible. There are laws against this practice. Any truth to this? Was MV Dali trying to do an early fuel change over, under the cover of darkness?

I strongly suspect that no-one would have "messed with" the engine control system program or software. It will run on Hyundai's own software/program and I doubt if anyone onboard would be able to access it. Conversely, I have seen a radar technician spend hours and hours "partioning" a non-standard piece of software on our ARPA after some bright spark decided that he wanted to run a video game on it!!! This only came to light when the tech. came onboard for another issue, and spotted the problem. The Master's comments when he learned what had happened are totally unprintable!

My theory is that there were issues prior to leaving port! It should have not left port.

Sounds like the ship was in a terminal load shedding status in port and at sea before striking the bridge. This ignored, could easily be attributed to why it went black ship several times and collided with the bridge. I would like to know more about this "explosion" as you showed and commented on or about at 2:40. Was this an explosion or just air venting from the hull as it was being crushed by the weight of the bridge? The latter seems most likely to me. FBI to conduct criminal investigation, LOL. You mean the USCG with the FBI? The USCG has master authority over this tragedy.

Could the bow thruster have had a local LiFe battery?

The first videos that came out. The videos were fast. Later videos that came out, We could see explosions. I question this?

Notwithstanding "the denials" the number of similar incidents - not all that many days apart - where ships "lost power" and drifted into seems a tad more than JUST COINCIDENTAL!!!!

Nah.... nothing has suggested this was intentional internal or external crime in any way so far. Negligence in maintenance and recklessness in the push to keep to a schedule are much more likely. I suspect the owners or crew were not cooperating with the NTSB and they called the FBI in for muscle to get hold of log books or data recorders, or called them in for extra bodies to do interviews.

Makes perfect sense to me. Gas leak on board, gas is heavier than air so sinks in to the bilges. Bow thruster is an electric motor which sparks, switchgear sparks, both could ignite the gas causing an explosion. Or bow thruster draws massive current overheating cables causing a fire, boats are airtight so flammable vapours build up with out oxygen. Fire alarm triggers crew investigate causing backblast

@teeanahera8949

Ай бұрын

A few problems with your logic here. Boats don’t use gas because of its volatility. BBQs are always outside on the deck. It is not true that gas is always heavier than air. Air is a gas. Helium is a gas but is NOT heavier than air, so ditch that myth. Next, “boats are air tight”, seriously? Show me a boat that does not have a hatch open at dock. They have hatches, windows, fans with extractors, engine room evacuation fans, etc so that’s just a highly uneducated thing to say. Boats builders take a lot of care to overcome the problem of non flammable gases like CO2 lying in the lower parts of the boat. Your hypothesis holds no water.

@liam3284

Ай бұрын

our galley has a gas stove, propane tank in an aft locker. We shut the gas off whenever we are not using it.

@dogfood61188

Ай бұрын

@@teeanahera8949 ok well you should probably do more research. My boat had gas on it I replaced it with a diesel heater and an alcohol stove and induction after reading marine accident investigation reports about boats exploding because gas is heavier than air sinks in to the bilges where it cant escape (ie air tight) then a spark causes the boat to explode. My marine surveyor recommended I change to alcohol for this reason shes seen several boats blown up in this way during work for insurance companies. Its surprisingly common theres a boat in my class that it happened too, thats why boats have separate gas lockers that vent overboard, lots of boats have bilge blowers installed and need to have the bilges regularly purged of gas. Have a look at the accident report for the Lord Trenchard and the YBW crash test boat explosion and Lunatoo was a seadog 30 that got blown up in a gas explosion. Thats off the top of my head, but clearly you know best so believe what ever you like.

@dogfood61188

Ай бұрын

@@teeanahera8949 “Few problems with your logic here.” Boats do use gas, my boat had gas on it, I know dozens of boats that have gas on them. Your BBQ gas shouldn’t be kept on deck where it’s exposed to the elements and leaving big rusty rings on deck it should be stored in a gas locker that vents overboard. Obviously we are not talking about helium because boats don’t routinely carry helium were talking about Butane or Propane that are carried on boats for cooking and are heavier than air, but you know that because you said gas is too volatile to carry on a boat, then immediately jump to Helium as an example of a gas but its an inert gas and non-flammable, not at all volatile, so your even contradicting your self. “So ditch that myth” Next, for the purposes of a heavier than air gas, boats are air tight, see a heavier than air gas can only escape by going down, if gas can escape by going down then its a good bet water can enter by going up, if that’s the case then your not looking at a boat. Thats before we get to water tight compartments and crash lockers, that can be made completely air tight. Also the reason they have all the blowers and fans you mentioned is to purge the bilges of the heavier than air flammable gasses that you claim don’t exist “so thats just a highly uneducated thing to say” and “so your hypothesis holds no water” In addition to that I removed gas from my boat on the advice of my surveyor who has attended several boats (for insurance companies) that have been blown up and written off by gas building up in the bilges, so your wrong. You could look at the Marine accident investigation report in to the explosion aboard the Lord Trenchard, or any of the 18 similar incidents in the UK in the last 10 years reported to the MAIB. That will all tell you, your wrong. You could look at S/V Lunatoo a seadog 30 recently rebuilt after a gas explosion blew the deck off, (proving your wrong). Or you could watch the videos of the YBW crash test boat being blown up by a gas leak onboard (again proving you wrong). Before you go calling anyone else uneducated can I suggest you get your own house in order? People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Well if you watch the ship on the video it looks like they didn't take any evasive action at all and drop the anchors didn't do nothing didn't try to steer it away

The bow thruster batteries may explode…

I would think they would be under obligation to investigate because there were deaths from bumping into the bridge. They might dig deep for months and find nothing. Who knows?

Propane stove on that ship?

😂 there are so many military installations around the Chesapeake bay a war ship would never get to where the key bridge was

@jenniferanne4143

Ай бұрын

Yea, if you cross the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel system, so many times I see the navy practicing take offs & landings on aircraft carriers.. really cool area, always fun around Virginia Beach.

@fukkyoutube

Ай бұрын

@@jenniferanne4143 i've lived here my whole life and actually saw a couple A-10 warthogs fly right over my house like 3 weeks ago

There would not be any sea bobs or scooters on charge in the bow you wouldn’t think.

I guess the rocket scientists in charge , didn't learn a thing about 911 ! Airplanes , now shipping vessels , what's next on that list ? Trains ? Highway bridges? Rockets!!!???? Great work fellas ! Get your resumes ready!

The clearance you need is NOT the 185 feet clearance between water and bridge, it's the DEPTH of the channel that counts.

@feoxorus

Ай бұрын

And whether a 1000' ship is traveling perpendicular to the opening, not sideways.

@lazygardens

Ай бұрын

@@feoxorus drifting under a bridge sideways is not recommended.

Think about this, why was the Harbourboard negligent in not protecting the bridge from ship strikes? It's not as though it has not happened before in the USA like 50 years ago in similar circumstances. Just another case of hurrying their heads in the sand and with the attitude of itvwont happen here

Only whoever manages the vessel traffic in the under bridge area is guilty of the bridge destruction for sure but nobody else because they didn't provide any special tugboats on duty 24/7 for emergency as it should be. It sounds so ridiculous when they try to accuse and sue the whole chain from the iron ore company of which steel the ship was made of to the customers the goods of which the ship was carried to.

propane tanks? would seem like something you would never bring on board.

Was the yacht that exploded all electric and charging it's battery?

They cant find the rail line! Thats a federal offense! Removing government property is a crime. Good thing joey reminded everyone about the train tracks. 😉👍

That's what you need a criminal investigating a criminal

Title subject at the end of the video, of course @ 5:00

Human Error. Commercial pressure nowadays overrides safety concerns.

If the "explosions" on the bridge really were massive electrical cables braking apart, why were no blackouts reported?

@eSysmanSuperYachts

Ай бұрын

Because the electrical system in a city is not designed to blackout if one cable breaks.

@erikk77

Ай бұрын

Fuses and circuit breakers prevent that kind of fault. Wait for the investigation.

@DavidLucas-zq8gb

Ай бұрын

@@erikk77 Fuses and circuit breakers prevent too much electricity from damaging the circuits wiring , it does nothing to restore power.

@OneWildTurkey

Ай бұрын

@@DavidLucas-zq8gb If a branch system is shorted to ground, like when a bridge collapses on the cables, the supplies are isolated from the ground before a blackout will happen.

Good site and information, but we are getting into nitty gritty tech details. If they had power problems, then its not an accident. In most cases there is no such thing. It can range from negligence to stupidity to deliberate actions which can indeed be criminal. Remotely possible the Chief Engineer did not know but highly unlikely. Not the first time someone has set CBs back into a fault deliberately resulting in a cascade failure. I know of one electrician that did that into a computer room. I called him 440 Thornton. He had run 460 (440 sounded better) into the computer room when it should have been 208 volts (standard step down you derive 120 from in that Delta to Y power configuration in the Xformer (house is 220 phase to phase which also gets you 115 volts). Put in the power, tripped the CB, reset it and burned up 6 or so big platter type Hard Drive boxes (2 x2 x 2 feet, big ones). Looked like an Elephant graveyard in the hallway when they pulled them out (and yes the electrical firm paid for it). Massive short that took out mains or even stalled the Generator engines on the Dali sounds plausible (and yes I have seen it happen).

@eSysmanSuperYachts

Ай бұрын

Accidentally hitting the bridge