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@bdawg5855

Жыл бұрын

Dark Seid is like the thanos of DC but instead of 50% he wants 100%

@GabrielSantos-pz7mh

Жыл бұрын

You guys didn't see Batman vs superman ultimate edition?

@GabrielSantos-pz7mh

Жыл бұрын

​@@bdawg5855Thanos is the Darkseid of Marvel.

@MontgomeryWenis

Жыл бұрын

Cyborg was literally playing football in a GCU uniform and GCU was printed everywhere in the stadium, and you still decided he was in highschool? Jesus Christ, how can people who watch TV for a living still be so goddamn bad at it?

@fabian5813

Жыл бұрын

You Guys Were Talking Crap About The “Men” Who Just Buried Their Box, But It Was The Amazonians And Atlanteans Who Lost Their Boxes First

If you think about it, the way, how man buried the box instead of putting it in a fortress like the rest of them, it was harder to find. They found everyone else’s because it was like a beacon for them in their fortress, but for man hiding it, burying it in the ground. No one would know where it would be.

@jamesthefartface

Жыл бұрын

They buried it and built a church on the place, so it's like very few people knew what's under it and the box was safe before Nazis destroyed the church and found the box

@hazapez126

10 ай бұрын

And yet it made its way to to Silas Stone before all the others lol

@Objective_Piece8285

Ай бұрын

no, Steppenwolf went after Atlantians and Amazons because he knew they were better warriors and would relatively put up more fight than man for the box. He left man's box last cuz it would be the easiest to acquire

As I'm sure other commenters have pointed out the Snyder Cut IS the original version, NOT the one released in 2017. Pretty much everything was already shot and filmed but didn't completely finish in terms of post-production for the effects and whatnot. The only that was added was Nightmare stuff. Tom Holkenborg/Junkie XL also had original music made for the film until Zack had to leave due his daughter's death and then they got Danny Elfman to do the music for the 2017 version instead. While not super terrible, his music just did not fit within this universe at all. Junkie XL basically chose redo the music all after they gave Zack the greenlight to complete their vision and we were not disappointed. I kind of had wondered what the music was originally going to sound like afterwards. I hope to hear them one day!

@jynxce

Жыл бұрын

That's my biggest issue with WB. Snyder was trying to move these characters forward with new stories and character arcs, but some at WB are so regressive that they can never get away from Reeves or Keaton's movies. I thought it was a smack in the face with the movie trying to pull on nostalgic feelings feelings instead of using the excellent music and themes that were tied to this new take on the characters.

@boboboy8189

Жыл бұрын

actually, Snyder's cut is 3 hours 34 minutes. Snyder adding more scene later on.

@ravissary79

Жыл бұрын

​​@@boboboy8189 he said that. There's a few scenes here and there, like the knightnare scenes. But the cast bulk was all already there.

@amenra7278

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it was only the nightmare scene that was added nothing else. Everything was already shot and it’s totality prior, and that it needed the effects team to complete the job as well as the music

@jimmy2k4o

Жыл бұрын

@@boboboy8189 those extra 28 mins were just the cuts/deleted scenes that WB wanted his full cut is 4 hours 2 mins minus the knightmare sequence at the end.

Darkseid is one of the most powerful villains in comic history

@iannoelcamilotes1003

Жыл бұрын

An example of this is the explanation in death battle in Darkseid vs Thanos. Darkseid is just the end of everything.

@lordschnitzel7961

Жыл бұрын

Yes. But he isn’t even in the Top 10. He for example got absolutely humiliated by the Empty Hand .

@BESTMOAD

Жыл бұрын

​@@lordschnitzel7961 I'm stronger than darksied

@thelivingbarfpoo2363

Жыл бұрын

​@BE4STMOAD117 do u have to pretend to be strong so u don't cry yourself to sleep at night after ur uncles fingered ur ass?

@tana5038

Жыл бұрын

@@iannoelcamilotes1003 Darkseid is.

I’ve heard so many say that Man did a shitty job with their box, but can I just point out that both the Amazons and Atlantean’s were the first to loose their boxes. Steppanwolf literally drops right into the Amazons defences and because the Atlanteans we’re guarding there’s he could extract the location and layout of there defences. But because Man buried there’s and probably killed everyone who helped to bury it no one could lead the enemy to it or be tempted to use it.

@shauntempley9757

8 күн бұрын

Also, when Man's box was found, they did not remember the fight, so did not know what it was. Only Wonder Woman knew once she got the warning from her mother. Even she did not know what was going on when she saw Victor's clip in BvS.

Everyone makes fun of man just burying the box in a hole. But that one was the hardest to find!

@HalfDemonInuyasha

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I mean, where would you expect something extremely valuable to be? In a big, reinforced safe in a massive fortress covered with defenses? Or just buried underground in some random location? Pretty sure 99.9% of people would instantly point to the fortress, lol.

@Darkseidsolosfiction

4 ай бұрын

​@@HalfDemonInuyashaking knew that people would want to harness the power of the motherbox, wars would break out because of it so he buried it with the men he could trust

HBO Max wanted 4 hours for their streaming service so that’s why alot was packed into this version. Also Zack wanted all the people who were cut from the 2017 movie to get paid in full for their work so he made sure to include people like Cyborgs mother, the sweater sniffing singers at the beginning, the poor lady who Cyborg gave money to after she was evicted, Ryan Choi character who in the comics is The Atom, among others. This cut could easily be reduced to a 3 hour movie or 2 hours and 45 minutes for a movie release.

@terrylandess6072

Жыл бұрын

The length I felt was important as it also does the job WB refused to do with separate films and backstory. They wanted the rewards without making the investment. The Snyder cut does what it can to some degree. Even Marvel went back to Iron Man after the Hulk (seemingly in hindsight) to green light the entire era instead of continuing with Thor/Cap immediately.

@Fenris30

Жыл бұрын

@@terrylandess6072 What separate films did Black Widow or Hawkeye have? This separate film nonsense has to stop. Especially after Guardians. It's just an Excuse. Had they let the man make the movies he wanted the way he wanted you would have gotten all the backstory you needed to know.

@jacob4920

Жыл бұрын

There's only one girl, in the beginning, that sniffed Aquaman's sweater, and that was the cute blonde, who was clearly crushing hard on Aquaman! lol I almost feel like that's a story in and of itself, but then again, that's probably just my dirty mind playing tricks on me.

@tonysoto8949

Жыл бұрын

@@terrylandess6072 Zack Snyder fixed the DCU with The Snyder Cut. Another big issue is the general audience jumping to conclusions and saying BvS didn’t make sense and instead of using common sense that the story was not complete. They bash Ben Aflecks Batman and Superman for being dark and not Boy Scouts, but the character arch’s for both was that by the end of BvS and on the Snyder Cut that they would see what they were doing wrong and become better people having gone from the dark to the light so too speak. Batman had battled villains for over 20 years and like in the Dark Night comic he was disillusioned and tired of the struggle and fight, then Superman by no fault of his own is involved in fights with Khryptonians which caused collateral damages mainly because those beings had the same powers as Superman who had never even been in a fight prior to that. Then you have Lex Luthor making Superman look like we couldn’t trust him so he felt like an outcast tall his life. I personally feel that MoS and BvS are severely underrated and bashed because the plots are not as simple as the MCU movies which are funny and don’t tackle all the issues that Zacks movies did. But we are lucky in a sense that the WB and Gun don’t know how to make smart decisions as far as continuity and world building. Zack did a masterful job of fixing the DCU in 1 four hour movie.

@Andre-hm5vo

Жыл бұрын

​@@tonysoto8949 Brilliantly said Tony 👌

I'm also still in total awe of how Steppenwolf looks here to this day. Much better than the 2017 version. They brought back his look from Batman v Superman. I love that not only is Steppenwolf's armor looks super badass but the fact that its alive too! I liked that it reacts to whatever mood he is in. What an amazing attention to detail. Loved that this time, he felt more like a scary beast and an actual threat. He didn't mess around either! Dude was kicking ass. Another thing I respect is that his reasons for doing what he's doing is alot more understandable here. He truly regretted what he did and was trying to redeem himself. You can see alot of emotions in his face. Like at one point, he looked like he was going to cry. I felt so bad for Steppenwolf. All he's trying to do is go back home. If that's not relatable and understandable, I don't know what is LOL.

@jeremyrdlamaxima7052

Жыл бұрын

But Steppenwolf looks like a normal man in the comics. Yeah the 2017 version was not good either. But the snyder version looks a typical monster if just some armor on. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@salmankhan2739

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremyrdlamaxima7052 Riddler in Matt Reeves' Batman looks like its copied the zodiac killer, very cheap copy. In the comics he wears a green suit and hat with question marks, has a cane. See, two can play that game. Sometimes, having changes from the comics can also be good.

@xTrinity007

Жыл бұрын

He had puppy dog eyes at one point. My girlfriend said she wanted to give him a hug 🤣

@rodgill9376

Жыл бұрын

@@xTrinity007 "You still... owe The Great One 50,000 more worlds. He will hear your plea... when you pay your debt!"

@JRMAV1

Жыл бұрын

@@salmankhan2739 He was just pointing it out, not playing a game, don’t be so defensive.

Christopher Nolan told Zack Snyder not to watch Joss Whedon’s version because it would break his heart, Chris Nolan got Zack Snyder the Man of Steel job so he’s not only a producer but a really good friend

Minute 25:06 they are the Ancient Greek Gods Zeus, Aries God of War and The Goddess Artemis Goddess of the Hunt, ancient green lantern Amazon Warriors, the people from Atlantis and the first tribes of men, all fighting together for Humanity. Love this scene.

Yeah, Christopher Nolan wanted Zack Snyder to direct Man of Steel and take over DC films after Nolan's trilogy. Nolan was also an Executive Producer in Man of Steel plus he wrote it with David Goyer, Zack was just the Director in MoS. Nolan basically brought Zack into the DCEU.

@tonysoto8949

Жыл бұрын

And that was the reason why Geoff Johns sabotaged BvS and The JL. He was pissed because Nolan picked Zack and the WB had already told Geoff they would consider his Superman script that he would direct as well. Instead they liked Nolan and Goyers Man of Steel script. Nolan said he couldn’t direct this type of Superhero movie and picked his friend Zack Snyder to direct it. So Geoff started meddling with the filming and shared Zack Snyders story boards for The Justice League with his friend Kevin Feigge who used them to make both Infinity war and end game. In zacks story boards the ending of Justice League 3 all of the DC superhero characters have a massive battle with Darkseid and his Armies. Geoff also pitched a DC/Marvel crossover movie and he wanted James Gunn to direct because the plan was to have The Suicide Squad battle The Guardians of the Galaxy. He would get the rights from DC to use the suicide squad. He also recommended Joss Weedman to direct The Justice League after Zack left the project because his adopted daughter had committed suicide. Geoff took the final copy of Joss Wedens JL and showed it to Kevin Feige so he could see a sample of what style the crossover movie would be and look like but Kevin Feige didn’t like the Joss Weeden JL and said no thanx to Geoff cuz he didn’t think the movie was good. Anyway a lot more to the story but it ruined what the DCEU could have been.

@caliginousmoira8565

Жыл бұрын

@@tonysoto8949 i would like to know more.... they way people spout snyder bad and never focus on the meddling really confuses me.... aslo i think a lot of people believe that the director does it all when it comes to movies.......

@tonysoto8949

Жыл бұрын

@@caliginousmoira8565 it was the melding by Geoff Johns who is a DC Comics lead writer who thought he would be using his script and directing Man of Steel which was his dream, and also Kevin Feige who is a close friend of Geoff is a huge Superman fan. You also had Walter Hamada giving Geoff the green light to spend all day with his assistant on the set while Zack was trying to direct both MoS and BvS and they would get the script by Christopher Nolan and Goyer and rewrite and try and change the script. Zack Snyder wasn’t having it which pissed the WB executives and Geoff Johns off. Since all the executives like Anne Sarnofff and Walter Hamada and Emerick were listening to Geoff Johns who would report to them that Zack was making the monies too dark and violent there was a huge disconnect between the studio and Zack who relied on Christopher Nolan throughout the whole drama just to finally be tired of it all when his daughter committed suicide. They continued to mettle and basically bully Zack so he and his wife decided to leave the Justice League project

@caliginousmoira8565

Жыл бұрын

@@tonysoto8949 thank you

Cyborg got the shine he deserves in this Cut, making him the most important character of the story! Let's just say that Whedon and Cyborg's actor didn't see eye to eye, it was a whole thing

@jacob4920

Жыл бұрын

I used to like Whedon. But he has committed some unforgivable sins in the past ten years that have really changed my view on the guy. He is not a good person!

@diegopansini3152

Жыл бұрын

@@jacob4920 “unforgivable sins”, it’s not for us to judge, we don’t even know the guy

@jacob4920

Жыл бұрын

@@diegopansini3152 People speak through their actions. Not their words. I said what I said, and I believe that Ray Fisher is the one with the legit beef in this case.

@ro4eva

Жыл бұрын

@@diegopansini3152 -- I agree that Cyborg is the heart-and-soul of this movie (as was stated by Zack Snyder), however, I disagree he was the most important character. It was a team effort in the end, especially after what Flash did (that scene still gives me chills).

@theredeemer1644

Жыл бұрын

AND...the most powerful from the group. I mean if he has a bad day he can wipe the human race with a single _thought_

The Age of Heroes battle honestly looks as epic and awesome as the opening to The Fellowship of the Ring! Also I absolutely loved when the little girl said “Can I be like you?” And Diana said, “You can be whatever you want to be.” That is such an important message to young girls out there.

@nahthanksno8299

Жыл бұрын

Yo word up! That scene had me so hyped, and yea Diana’s interaction with the little girl was a sweet moment.

@jacob4920

Жыл бұрын

So ironic that the "woke" hate that sort of message. They hate that WW encouraged little girls to be whatever they wanted to be. Because true empowerment is not what they are after. They simply want all of society to be dragged down to THEIR level. That's why everyone hates them, and nobody normal likes their message. That Hollywood fell for this crap is seriously the worst mistake that movie studios have ever made.

@theredeemer1644

Жыл бұрын

The *_R_* rated version should be... “You can be whatever the _fvck_ you want to be.”

@TheIcemanthomas

Жыл бұрын

@@theredeemer1644 que nwa straight out of Compton

Yeah I'm happy you're watching this because it's miles better than the 2017 version

@tervalas

Жыл бұрын

Explain how, ignoring the things that most likely would have not made it into the 2017 version if Zach had finished it.

@_ripVanWinkle_

Жыл бұрын

@@tervalas use your brain

@Wolfhunter5607

Жыл бұрын

wait does anyone know if zack was still going to have bruce nut in lois and clark raise the kid after bruce dies?

@tervalas

Жыл бұрын

@@_ripVanWinkle_ I am using my brain, though I wonder if you are using yours with such a pointless 'insult' like that. I simply want to know what about it made it 'miles' better. We all know Zach was going to have to make cuts. We all know a ton of post-production wasn't ready yet, or if it would've been possible to complete before he would have had to finalize the movie. Watch both side by side, and you'll easily note that the only major difference between the released and this was the CGI material with Darkseid. And not having that ready forced Joss to modify the ending to something admittedly not good. But a ton of the cuts Joss made were material that didn't add anything to the movie and things that Joss may have even decided to cut.

@amon__7187

Жыл бұрын

​@tervalas Zach's theatrical cut of this movie would have probably been 3 hrs. Epilog wouldn't have existed. A lot of smaller cuts here and there would have added up to a big amount. There was a video of someone who broke it down. Can't remember who

Laugh all you want, but remember the Mother Box hidden by Man was the last to be retrieved.

@ghostlee6434

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they're kinda clueless..they don't realize that they are laughing at probably the smartest choice.

I am glad you like this cut so far, but just so you know, it wasn't that long ago that movies were often 3+ hours long and had intermissions in the middle. I was raised on films that long in length, and the only reason movies got cut down in length is because studios wanted to sell more tickets per day in showings, so they started getting shorter and shorter, and people's attention spans adjusted to match. I much prefer a film that takes its time to tell a good story, than a 90 minute ADD-fest. I hope that someday we can evolve back to longer film content, just like they used to be.

@misteryio3990

Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed. But damn.. Your side has intermissions? If it's 3hrs plus movie, it's a sit through all the way for me. The only way for it to work is to not get any drinks and head to the toilet before the start. If it's urgent, it's going to be a missed on a segment.

@letsgotomarsman

Жыл бұрын

Ok lil bro

@boboboy8189

Жыл бұрын

the last 3++ hours long movie is LotR trilogy. it's weird that today people complaining the length of movie, for me i prefer longer movie so I felt worthy for my ticket

@metalore

Жыл бұрын

But this is 4+ hours.

@XS-NRG

Жыл бұрын

@@boboboy8189 it's because vine and later tik tok fried peoples brains. They need CONSTANT stimulation.

Amazing movie, sad that WB didn't let Snyder cook and caused the mess we have forever.

@Wolfhunter5607

Жыл бұрын

i hate that people just blame snyder smh they should be blaming all of them not just him

@mitchthe3518

Жыл бұрын

Snyder left because his daughter khs

@passionsquietrage

Жыл бұрын

Not that it's actually that much of a mess, but yeah WB got greedy and screwing over multiple people like Snyder and Leto.

@braveboy2445

Жыл бұрын

Let Snyder cook

@vhvhvjglofswfcksrhycjbhigmkefe

Жыл бұрын

Snyder had creative control over the first one tho

People can binge a show in a day but can't sit through a 4 hour film

@paulrobinson5171

Жыл бұрын

Yeah never got the whiney people who say the movie is to long at 4 hours but binge 7 hrs of a series on Netflix. Tbf the movie didn't feel like 4 hours it was well paced and at the end I wanted more.

@TheShadow8771

5 ай бұрын

Then there's me who watches all 3 extended cuts of Lord of the rings in one sitting

@FLQueerLiberal1982

4 ай бұрын

Except bingeing a series can be more easily broken up into blocks of time for breaks. For a series you, you can stop for a while after every or every other episode in order to take yourself a breather, come back to start a fresh, new episode. Also, long movies like that requires a long attention spans, and keeping the long, perhaps even compleĽ¹x, plot straight - taking a break during that could lead to confusion about the plot. And besides, most people who start watcH?

There were plans to do a Cyborg movie. Then, Cyborg was originally going to be in The Flash movie. But, then all that stuff came out between Ray Fisher and WB and all that stuff got axed. I always thought that WB was too much in a rush to beat the MCU with 1 movie and they wanted Batman V Superman to be that movie, but BvS was originally going to be just Man of Steel 2, written by David Goyer. Did you know that back before Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, there were plans for a Justice League movie and casting was done for it? That is a whole different story in itself. If I remember correctly, I think David Ayer said that originally, those parademons (which, you are correct were in Batman's dreams in BvS), were also going to be in Suicide Squad. In the BvS Ultimate Edition, there is a scene where Lex sees Steppenwolf or at least a vision of him. Also, at the end of BvS when Lex goes "crazy" and keeps repeating to Batman that he's coming, he was talking about Darkseid. Honestly, as a cinephile, I think it is a worthwhile study of cinema just to go back and see the theatrical version again, if anything, just for the sake of doing a deep dive film comparison and learning about different directorial styles and also learn a lot about how much film editing can change a movie. It will also make you mad at just how much WB and Whedon changed the movie and how much they cut out and reshot, which then almost tripled the budget and made it almost impossible for the movie to make any profit. The crazy thing is that this Snyder version of the movie already existed and he just shot 1 new scene for the post-credit during the pandemic at his house and I think some new ADR was done too, but basically everything was already done back in 2016. Apparently, WB wanted to fire Zack Snyder from Justie League long before his daughter's suicide, which made Snyder walk away anyway. Then, WB also lied about Snyder hand-picking Whedon to take over for him. Then WB also kept denying there ever was a Snyder cut in the first place and that the theatrical version was about 80% Snyder's footage, which was definitely not true at all. Jason Mamoa even stated he had seen the Snyder version, back when WB was still lying and insisting it never existed. The irony is that even if Whedon had just stitched together some of the original footage into a 2 hour movie (WB insisted on 2 hours, which is crazy, IMO, and Snyder rightfully so, laughed at the notion of a 2-hour JL movie), without reshooting anything, that butchered movie version still would have still made a good profit. But, it was the reshoots that doomed the movie's profitability from the start and all the stuff Whedon reshot to make the movie more light-hearted and more of a Whedon movie and over-saturated with color ruined the movie. It then became a weird hybrod of 2 different director's visions that did not mesh well at all. Honestly, I did still enjoy the theatrical version of JL and did not think it was total trash like some others did. BUT, after seeing this Snyder Cut, I honestly cannot get myself to ever see the theatrical version ever again. When I saw the theatrical version, I did see it 3 times in theaters and did love it much more than The Last Jedi, which came out around the same time. But, even then, that theatrical version definitely felt like a freaky hybrid vision. I honestly did not even blame Joss Whedon at the time, but blamed WB for throwing Snyder under the bus (ever since BvS came out, which WB also changed from Snyder's original 4-hour cut) and causing all their own DCEU problems with their own studio interference. If Whedon had made his own JL movie from scratch without having to deal with a super-tight deadline and having to integrate somebody else's footage, then I think it may have been pretty good. BUT, after all the stuff that then started coming out in ensuing months about Whedon's bad, hateful attitude towards the cast and badmouthing Snyder every chance he could and just all-around being an a**hole, including threatening Gal Gadot's career, I am not a Whedon fan anymore.

The theory with men simply burying their box is they did that because they did not trust each other to guard it, that they would eventually succumb to its power. So they rather burried it and hoped we would forget in time where it is.

@annkelly9830

Жыл бұрын

Also seems like only a select few knew where it was buried

YES, the second half of your reaction is going to be action packed! So much action. Can’t wait!

So glad you’re watching this. If only you knew the full Story Snyder wanted to tell before WBS failed.

@Plvcky

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I wanted to say

@TheCzx

Жыл бұрын

yeah is a shame but snyderverse is gone in flash movie. He reset everything just like flashpoint paradox :) but a lot of us have a theory that justice league in snyder verse is failed because in the nightmare scene all world is invaded and destroyed by darkseid so the flash is goin' to the different universe because darkseid already destroy snyder JS and there's no chance to win

@BESTMOAD

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheCzx Snyderverse return I'd being teazed by zack snyder rn

@centerworldUSA

Жыл бұрын

@@BESTMOAD no it isn’t, that’s syndercon

@BESTMOAD

Жыл бұрын

@@centerworldUSA who said anything about snydercon? What are you talking about

It sucks because the 2017 cut not only took some parts of the original cut but it heavily altered and changed other things for the worse

the format is because the film was shot for IMAX , and Zack Snyder decided to release the film as is, without cutting the top and bottom of the screen because it would cut too much off the scene, he filmed the JL members to fit the screen so theyd appear larger and fill out the negative areas in the screen. so he left it that way

Steppenwolf, who led the parademons, looked WAY different in Whedon's 2017 Justice League. This version is so MUCH better looking. Night and day difference. For one, the horns were part of his helmet in the theatrical Whedon version. Here, the horns are a part of HIM. Making him truly alien. Among other physical differences. -OG

@ro4eva

Жыл бұрын

@Dr. Knowledge -- Agreed! It was hilariously awful and generic. "MOTHER! MOTHER? MOTHER!"

Zack Snyder's justice league is the original, the theatrical cut was the reshoots

@ravissary79

Жыл бұрын

To be fair ZSJL also had reshoots, but a lot less. The original plan for the movie was altered slightly because it was an assembly cut without full effects.

A little thing you need to know. In that "Earth's warriors fight away the Invasion" memory Diana tells Bruce, they aren't fighting Darkseid. That is his younger self, Uxxas. Later on he becomes Darkseid. And if you need a Power Scale of how powerful Darkseid is: He could wipe the floor with Thanos and Thanos wouldn't even realise he got killed.

I don't know if it's just because I had an off day at work earlier today or because I really love the message this movie gives, or maybe a combination of the two, but this is the first time I've actually cried while watching it. With you two. So thank you for that

Honestly if you watch Man Of Steel, BvS: Ultimate Edition and then the Snyder Cut of Justice League, it’s a solid trilogy. Not perfect but really darn good.

Burying the motherbox was smarter than building a shrine around it advertising where it is.

This movie is absolutely terrific. Just sucks that they setup a sequel that will never get made.

@bolt2134

Жыл бұрын

It pains me on how good this was and knowing that it will never keep going

@Andre-hm5vo

Жыл бұрын

WB should never be forgiven for this mess they created.

Originally DC was suppose to start off with everyone’s solo film starting with Man of steel but WB pushed the issue to fast track everything which is why the next film was BVS they wanted to get more heroes on the screen faster to try and keep up with marvel and that lead to Justice league being the 5th film to release. Now with James Gunn they’re going back to the original plan they had when they made man of steel just with different stories and characters.

Christopher Nolan is actually a close friend of Snyder’s and supporter of his films and was one of the two ppl who told Snyder not to watch the theatrical cut of Justice League. The other person was Snyder’s wife.

This is the longest DC Movie ever, 242 minutes!

43:30 it's funny, when i first heard that Affleck was going to be Batman, i wasn't impressed, i thought he wouldn't be that good. i really was surprised at how good he turned out to be. the Snyder cut is the best option for watching the justice League, it sets up the background for the characters so much better. glad you two checked it out! another great reaction! 👍

@Ugnutz

Жыл бұрын

he copped teh same flack Ledger got when he was first cast as the Joker all the lame brokeback joker jokes

Isn't it amazing how you ask a question and it gets answered very shortly after in the movie. 😂

" Batman's Dream " was suppose to open the door for an Injustice trilogy. He's not actually Dreaming He's seeing a future that may happen.

As a heads up in that flash back it was a young darkseid before he gained the omega effect which is why he seemed like he was handled easily well he still fought against God's.

@cruherrx

Жыл бұрын

How is it “easily”? He shrugged off arrows that destroyed spaceships, killed a Green Lantern and then had to be double teamed by two gods, just to get him to RETREAT.

@KonohazFinest

Жыл бұрын

@@cruherrx it's all about context and since you didn't really understand what I was trying to say I'll just leave it at that

biggest improvement is steppenwolf's design and darksied actually being in the movie

Before the MCU, film had multiple characters introduced in one film and it was done successfully. Everyone doesn’t need an origin film before the big team up if done right. THIS is done right. Superman had a solo that lead to a 2nd film with Batman and introduced WW. Then WW had her origin, but even without that movie, it all leads to this epic film. This IS Cyborgs origin story. Aquaman and Flash are introduced like WW was introduced in BvS and it’s done well because of writing. Then they can have their origins expanded in their solo movies afterwards. It’s totally fine doing it that way. The MCU made a great blueprint but it is not the only way you can have an epic team up movie. Look at Lord of the Rings, Oceans 11, Harry Potter, ect. The problem wasn’t that they didn’t do it like Marvel. The problem is everyone thinks that Marvel way is the only way so you expect anything else to do the same.

The cyborg section turned this movie from amazing to masterpiece

@alvinsaisi5969

Жыл бұрын

and they are making the actor out to be evil for speaking up on how they ruined his character in 2017 version. The only thing I remember he did in that movie was say "booyah". In this one he's the heart of the movie

@ro4eva

Жыл бұрын

@@alvinsaisi5969 -- That was so retarded for Joss Whedon to get Cyborg to say "Booyah." Josh Whedon went full retard with that one.

Actually it makes sense that men buried it unlike the Amazon or the Atlanteans, mankind weren't united, they were divided into many people and the leaders of men of that time were fearful that one day one of their descendants would try to use the boxes for their own ends and try to unite them. Hence burying it somewhere and hiding it was better than putting it in some fortress, since nobody would know to look for

Her face when he vocalizes EVERY spoiler he remembers XD

I was also surprised watching it My expectation is that this is just the same movie with added deleted scenes (thus the 3 hours runtime) But it looks like they almost reshot 80% of the scene Edit: after reading comments, apparently this is the original shot. The first version is the altered movie

@boboboy8189

Жыл бұрын

bro 😂😂😂😂😂. i have been following DC since 2016 and stopped after Snyder's cut released. if you know drama behind it, you won't hates Snyder anymore WB is the main culprit, Snyder original plans is just 5 superman movie. this actually tweeted by jay Olivia who involved in man of steel, he did screenplay with Snyder for man of steel. if you watch Snyder interview from supernova, Sydney 2013. you will know how WB doesn't care about comic book movie. WB demand Clark Kent grew up in metropolis, Snyder said no, Clak Kent grew up in metropolis is in the lore of comic so he told Christopher Nolan and Nolan purchase a land then grew a crops. that land became Kent's farm in man of steel and interstellar. another interview is from 2016, Snyder said he having a meeting with WB executive and presenting his sequel but he said at the end of superman sequel, Kryptonite arrived on Wayne manor and then suddenly WB executive forced him to have batman in sequel, what worst is they bringing old batman v superman script from 2003 for Snyder shoots. Snyder told Ben Affleck and Affleck bring Chris terrio to rewrite that script. Snyder also said studios ask him "they have ironman, where ours ironman. they captain America, where our captain america". Snyder said " DC should be it's own things" because of this WB executive Fels animosity against him and planing to kick him out like politician. first they intended to cut 30 minutes from BvS. second, they plans to make JL to be just 2 hours. so people will saying Snyder is bad director and shouldn't be directing movies. this all turned out true when fans campaigning Snyder must resign in 2016 to early 2017. so WB hired Joss whedon to rewrote JL script in January 2017, 3 months after Snyder finish principle photography of Snyder's cut. they they hiring Geoff john who are Kevin feigi best friend because john used to works for marvel for hulk comic. i still remember right after Geoff John took over, they pressured Snyder to step down after his daughter died. they also reshoots JL without Snyder and putting 2 cut side by side and shown it to test screening audiences in July 2017. 1 months before WB fired him, in 5th May, Snyder post Aquaman swimming which we knew CGI is 80% done. last thing Snyder post in Twitter is what roscharch from watchmen said "Never Compromise, even at the face of Armageddon". then every media rejoice when Geoff john announced Snyder "step down" from DC. people who hate Snyder said Snyder's cut is not exist not until in 2019 when Snyder post a picture with his film roll written Snyder's cut. many sceptic said it's just a hoax but Snyder's own photographer said it's exist and he saw it in Snyder own studios with black and white colors to prevent WB from owning it. after fans campaigning from 2018 to 2020, Snyder's cut is announced. but Snyder adding more scenes. the original cut is 3 hours 34 minutes but Snyder said every small cast must will be appeared in his movie although it's not necessary but those mini cast actually thanks Snyder because he never cut them out. so this movie got 3 hours 50 minutes unedited version while Snyder adding 14 minutes with martian manhunter, knightmare vision. basically what we saw in Zack Snyder's Justice League is unedited version of everything Snyder want to show

@wiredjerk

Жыл бұрын

@@boboboy8189 Yeah, I think the only other film to suffer from more studio meddling and BS was John Carter from Mars. Movie took decades to go from script to screen. And it was a patchwork of multiple studio heads bad ideas by the end.

5:40 About the color grading. Yes, it was change in the 2017 version, to be more bright and colorful. And you are talking about the aspect ratio, which Zack Snyder has stated that he loved the look while filming Batman V Superman, because allows him to film more and not be limited by the horizontal aspect of wide format. In his words: "I really started just, compositionally, really falling in love with that concept. [...] Superheroes tend to be, as figures, they tend to be less horizontal. Maybe Superman when he's flying. But when he's standing, he's more of a vertical. Everything is composed and shot that way, and a lot of the restoration is sort of trying to put that back. Put these big squares back." And Anthony is right, Zack's child died, by suicide. He then left the movie to be with his family. Warner Bros bring Josh Whedon, who did BIG changes/omissions and some subtle ones, like shortening scenes to deleting sub-plots and simplifying the final battle. The Snyder Cut is dedicated to his daughter. And fun fact: According to one statement of the Visual Effects supervisor, the executives of WB didn't understand The Flash time travel scene near the end of the movie and was one of the first things that were discarted after Zack Snyder left.

the actor that plays Cyborg’s dad played in my favorite tv series of all time “Smallville” if y’all never seen it y’all should definitely react to it, it’s the origin story of Clark Kent’s journey to become Superman

Yes. The parademons you see flying out and attacking the Amazons are the same parademons in Batman's visions in Batman v Superman. -OG

Sad yall didnt watch the extended edititons of the previous films, but so glad yall watching this version💙

@ro4eva

Жыл бұрын

There's an extended edition of Man of Steel?

The head of WB wanted the movie out by a certain deadline so he could get a bonus. SWB is a cluster that cannot seem to get out of it's own way. This movie is a masterpiece

It’s still funny seeing JK Simmons playing the guy who backs Batman & works with him instead of calling him a menace lol

The screen format had a two fold reason. One: Zach Snyder wanted it framed like comic book panels and Two: this is the IMAX format. And this WAS the original Justice League.. before all the reshoots to make it quippy and less dark.

When Wonder Woman saves the kids from the terrorists and asks the one girl if she's alright. The girl asks if she can be like her one day. Obviously, we're all thinking no. But the reason why they focus on this conversation is because this girl would have become the future Wondergirl had Snyder continued his Snyderverse. -OG

I like that both of them really have the "lets watch it for the first time" mode and no background research done to spoil the movie.

27:22 it's more hilarious when you realize thats the Last box they found.

The whole story and uproar about the snyder cutt was very huge and to give you guys context on why it was a huge thing then here you can read what basicallly happened: Anthony is basically right, Zack was making this movie (obviously it wasn't going to be this long it was going to be cutt out for the official movie, that's what director's cutts are all about) but his daughter died and he had to step down of the film to be with his family, a very natutal thing to do, and Warner brought Whedon to "finish Zack's vision of the movie", which was a complete lie because the moment Zack was off they not only cutt down stuff but changed the WHOOOLLE movie and characters enterily because they wanted it to be more "marvel like", a thing that Zack always told them that it was stupid because being marvel like is a thing from marvel and trying to be like them is dumb, but they didnd't give a shit and used Wonder woman as fan service, Flash as a stupid comedic relief with nothing else, Aquaman as just a "badass edgy" prototype character, Batman was ridiculous, Superman was cringy, Cyborg's character was butchered and the villain/plot was a joke. They added stuff changed stuff and removed stuff completly to the point that Zack's vision no longer existed which was a thing that EVERYBODY FROM THE CAST HATED, this whole "remodeling process" started months before the movie was out for the world yet again another stupid mistake which led to terrible effects, bad script, bad characters and the movie became a joke. Everybody knew about Zack leaving and them doing reshoots months before the movie was out but nobody knew that it was this bad because the more time passed more details were known to the public which led to a furious uproar of fans screaming to Warner to give us what we were suposed to see in the first place, a thing that many actors and celebrities outside of the cast were supporting because what Warner did was not only disrespectful to Zack but to the entire crew and the way they treated Fisher (Cyborg's actor) was HORRIBLE apparently. So yeah and up to this point Warner just keeps putting his foot infront of itself just to try and catch up to marvel movies instead than going slow and build their story at their rythim, yeah they brougth some good movies like Shazam, Aquaman, Joker and The Batman and i'm not saying that Snyder was the best director because he had lots flaws, my heart belongs to DC but i'm not blind because i can see why batman vs superman was badly recieved but also man of steel is still among my favourite movies of all time, knwoing al of that can still say confidently if Warner just kept giving Zack his freedom then we would be seing something different from marvel that it would have been a breath of fresh air for superhero movies.

@Psi-Storm

Жыл бұрын

The worst thing about Batman v Superman was the title. The conflict between the two is only a small part of the movie, and it's forced on them through Luther. Should have been just Dawn of Justice or Batman: DoJ.

@Falcun21

Жыл бұрын

@Bolt, Almost correct. Whedon was brought in just BEFORE Zack's daughter died (according to Zack.) WB wanted Whedon to "punch up the dialogue" but Whedon wanted Zack to reshoot scenes to make it fit the new dialogue. Zack said he had to fight with Whedon and Geoff Johns about every detail and then his daughter died and he lost the will to keep fighting for his vision. He withdrew and Whedon re-shot the movie to fit his own views and thus Josstice League was born with the Marvel-esque quips and humor. Henry's part in Justice League was complete, so he was free to go work on Mission Impossible, but Whedon wanted to re-shoot his scenes for some reason and we got Mustache-Gate wherein professional computer graphics artists could not do a better job of removing a mustache than amateurs at home could and we got a Superman with a messed up mouth. Whedon also removed vital plot points and character interaction to make the Justice League more like the Avengers, when everybody that reads comics knows, the Justice League are (pardon the pun) super serious when it comes to saving the day. They don't make jokes, they don't make quips, they do not take things at all lightly.

@Falcun21

Жыл бұрын

@@Psi-Storm The v. denotes a civil case, like in a lawsuit. VS. means a battle. In the movie, Batman was against Superman for what he MIGHT do, while Superman was against Batman for what he HAD DONE. It was much more like a battle in the court of public opinion than a battle on the field. Lex set up Superman to look bad in the public eye and set up Batman to look bad in Superman's eyes, all the while stoking Batman's rage at feeling helpless for the first time since his parents were killed. It's a lot deeper than a difference of opinion on how to handle criminals, which is where Supes and Bats usually butt-heads in the comics.

@johngentley5015

Жыл бұрын

@@Falcun21 “they don’t make jokes, they don’t make quips, they do not take things at all lightly” Plastic Man: allow me to introduce myself (And yeah I know he’s the only comedy character, I just had to make the joke)

@dreamybullx1

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Trying to be like Marvel was the worst mistake they couldve made

For me it is not necessarily something bad they went for MoS, then BvS, then JL (with WW and Suicide Squad in the middle before JL). It doesn't have to be like Marvel. It made it it's own thing. There are more ways to tell stories than going for origin story for each character. Wasn't necessary for Guardians of the Galaxy or Watchmen. The real problem was that they, WB, wanted to be like Marvel after BvS and started to change things, the tone, the mood, and now even wanting a reboot.

In hindsight, I'm so glad this movie/cut became a reality, because it is infinitely superior to the theatrical abomination. And the 2nd half -- parts 4 + 5 + 6 -- is, in my opinion, outstanding, especially what Flash manages pull off near the end -- pure chills, that scene.

Snyder's vision did originally have a 10 year plan laid out like Gunn does now where it wouldve been introducing every single JL character first before their collab film in this timeline: Man of Steel Batman V Superman Wonder Woman Suicide Squad Justice League Shazam Aquaman Cyborg Wonder Woman 2 The Flash Black Adam Justice League 2 Justice League 3 But this whole plan got cancelled since Warner Bros stopped the funding after Joss Wedon's Justice League flopped so hard

@Tippotipo

8 ай бұрын

Basically Warner Bros' own fault because of their typical interference and horrible decision. That studio still has learned nothing in forty + years.

Thanks to this movie, we pretend the 2017 version never happened.

@kieroncampion120

Жыл бұрын

Both versions are hilariously bad.

35:50 In the original 1980’s Teen Titans comics Victor still had parts of his legs, arms and lower body intact. So he could still have a full life, marriage and kids. He also had a girlfriend who worked as a therapist to kids with artificial limbs. He would stop by her clinic and be a role model to the children. But over the years whenever his character is retconned they keep whittling away at how much of him is still human.

Lol, the funny part is while you were making fun of men hiding and burying the box ...the Amazons already lost theirs and the Atlanteans lost theirs ... making it their focal point gave it a target so when he came, he knew where to go to gain the boxes again.

I was watching this with my nephew, who has zero patience. Every time it showed another part he would say it was making the movie feel longer. Around part 5 he asked how many parts there were and I said 12! He looked so defeated.

"The box you opened it we came" pinhead from Hellriser

The three huge people. The one with the lightning and the one with the arrows and the one who hurt Darkseid, they are the Greek gods Zeus, Artemis, and Ares (Wonder Woman's villain). And Darkseid is extremely powerful. It makes sense that an Old God can harm a New God. Though I'm not saying the others couldn't it just is easier to do so with gods on your side.

To be fair, the motherbox that man had was the last one to be found so technically speaking they hid it better.

Everybody likes to rag on "men" for burying their box, but it was sure easy for Steppenwolf to find and take the Amazon and Atlantis boxes. In this case, security through obscurity seems to have worked best.

Fun watch :) appreciate the upload thank you both

I hope DC uses this reset as an opportinity to get their stuff together. They can just adapt comics 1 to 1 and it will be 1000000 times better.

It’s not a perfect film by any means- but it’s still a million times better than the 2017 theatrical version…

@Ugnutz

Жыл бұрын

its like the difference between the theatrical and the directors cut of Kingdom of Heaven its a completely different movie

I could never get passed how Steffenwolf or Desaad couldn't piece it together that the world that fought back would be the world with the 3 motherboxes. So to find the Motherboxes on Earth and not suspect "this is the planet that fought back" was very far fetched to me.

I mean we all make fun of men just burying their box, but it was the last one to be found 😂

The Mother Box Silas Stone had was the box we saw in Wonder Woman in the after credit scene. David Ayer's Suicide Squad originally had Steppenwolf and the Parademons in it. Originally the villain was being controlled by Steppenwolf but he had to change it. Ayer's Suicide Squad is also a much different film. Hopefully we get his version of the film one day.

@RobertDV88

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It took 26 years before the Donner Cut of Superman II was released. Hopefully it won't be that long before we get the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad.

@ro4eva

Жыл бұрын

@@RobertDV88 -- I would be so grateful if we get the Ayer cut. I really wanna see it.

*5:38** Our Boss, the Goat! Zack Snyder sitting in the cafe* ❤

When you watched BvS, did you see the Ultimate Cut? That is the edition that Zach originally made without WB executive interference. The main trilogy is MOS, BvS Ultimate, & ZachSnyders JL ... If you watch in that order it all makes sense & blows your mind.

@brandonjenkins723

Жыл бұрын

They didn’t

I will never watch the 2017 film I would rather watch a 4 hour cut rather than the 2017 one this one will always cannon to me.

People are nuts with the Phase 4 hate. Some of the MCU's best content has come in 4... No Way Home, Wandavision, Loki, Shang-Chi, Wakanda Forever and more. All they remember is the ones they don't like.

This is the original, the 2017 version is the joss whedon cut

“This is for Johnny”😂

A lot of what in this version was in the trailer for the theatrical version so it looks familiar. Almost all of this was filmed before Snyder had to leave. They filmed new scenes and messed with it a lot.

Im glad yall saw the cut

Hey everyone! Welcome back to the channel Today we are watching the dos cavazos

FYI: Zack Snyder originally had a 214 minute theatrical cut that he was planning to put out. After being pushed out of DC in 2017 and later returning to finish editing his “Cut” for 2021 release, he decided to put EVERYTHING he had into it, which is why the runtime is 4 full hours long. This is technically a Directors cut of his original version which would’ve ran about 3-1/2 hours.

what wheldon made in 2017 was odd. he cut many scenes. nearly all of cyborg's scenes were cut including scenes that where in the trailers before Snyder left. He then had many reshoots to try and make it more like a marvel movie, which led to the cgi mouth superman as he couldn't save his mustache for the reshoots. my only complaint with the snyder cut is that it would be better if he did a proper edit. the movie is far longer than needed and many parts could flow better. but that wasn't what he promised so I understand why.

GREAT reaction keep up the good work

You guys should look at the comparison between theatrical steppenwolf and Snyder’s

Burying the damn box was the smarter choice in retrospect xDD

Snyder's daughter died. He and his wife were both on the production of "JL", and they both left to take time to grieve. Wb brought in Joss Whedon to finish the movie. he rewrote the script and shot a bunch of extra footage resulting in a 3-hour movie. The Zack Snyder version cuts out almost 1 hour of Whedon footage and restores 2 hours of original footage to get the 4 hr "Snyder Cut"

Love watching you guys react to this truly epic film.

I hope when she watched BvS she watched the extended cut. Made alot more sense

I'm not entirely sure but I think Snyder wanted to make it into two parts that's why there's so much content. Again not entirely sure.

The Whedon Cut was 1 hour and 50 odd minutes and the bad guy was a CGI mess. This version he is cleaned up properly and 2 hours of 10 minutes of context makes for a coherent whole. Bear in mind WB did not want to give this to Snyder.

Aquaman came out after the events of Justice League. Mera briefly thanks Aquaman for saving the world in Justice League and then pushes him to take his rightful place as King of Atlantis. -OG

If Cyborg can launch nukes i think he can cover up what he put in that woman's bank account. 😂

All you need to know is WB/DC did Zack Snyder dirty. They forced him to cut BVS to a shorter runtime to get more showings and more money but that caused the movie to feel disjointed which resulted it bad reviews. During post production his daughter, Autumn, killed herself and rather than postponing the release of Justice League they gave him the boot, brought in Joss Whedon to do massive reshoots and completely bastardized Snyder's story and vision. This was supposed to be a 5 movie arc with the final battle against Darkseid involving the entire world becoming the Justice League. The world United. It has recently been revealed that the man behind everything is a man called Thawne, the evil version of The Flash from the future which would of ended with the Flashpoint paradox storyline resetting everything. WB are morons. This would have been EPIC.

There was going to be a Cyborg movie after this and he was going to be a main part of the flash movie!

Men just buried their motherbox yes..but ironically it was the last motherbox to be found out by Steppenwolf 😆💀

Phenomenal show as always you guys!👍🏾👍🏾😎

Motherbox and fatherbox, is what are referred to as Boom tubes. Basically, they’re meant to be teleportation devices that are alien in nature.

@CoolnessNSparks

Жыл бұрын

Also the flying things, are basically an army of darkseid’s minions, that are called Parademons.

Marvel had to introduce theses characters individually because nobody gave a shit about them apart from Spiderman. DC didn't need to do that because everyone knows who Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman the Flash etc are.

@ChamarM

Ай бұрын

And the X-Men people gave a shit about them and maybe the Fantastic 4 they did have 2 movies and I think 2 cartoons

Also that version of darksied when he first shows up is his younger and weaker version