1, students have to learn how to keep balance in strick. but they should not stop trying this kind of technique eventhough they can loss balance in the beginning. good balance skills come from practice not from avoiding certain techniques. so this video is for practice purposes, this is why sometimes, they initiated the movements even it was not the situation, but it is the way of training. 2, being able to strike with shoulders but with power is definitely higher level. (continue)

Very practical for fighting but not for sports.

I keep coming back to this. I very much appreciate you posting this publicly. 🙏

2, for the stepping, please do more researching of heibei style, i am from tianjin, the city where the most heibei masters came from(li cunyi, zhang zhaodong, xue dian, gao yisheng, liiu qilan...).this is how we practice in our city in high level. most video on internet will not show the application with this kind of step, because their application is kind of martial art rehearsal. with speed and power, this kind of step is the most applied in heibei style.

I really like this teacher's form and applications - very connected, sharp and powerful

I think this teacher is very good. His own performances of xing yi and ba gua zhang are totally tight and it seems he also can teach. Great stuff!

Thank you for your kind words. I just read his comment again, i found out that he misunderstood it: what i am doing is not shanxi style, I am teaching Hebei style, which is different from Shanxi style. In shanxi style, they focus on a lot of vertical circle of hips but hebei style focus on it less... but i do not like his over-judjemental. hai yang

Really impressive power, root and understanding. Thank you for posting.

just a quick answer: concerning the rooting question, it is a very complicated topic, or I can say it is very hard for beginner to understand the real meaning of rooting practice in TMA. Xing Yi's root concept is much deeper than only static stance....

Great display of speed, precision and power. Effective.

A good example of Solidity & Speed; a joy to behold 🪷🕊

by the way, thank you for your comments.

Thanks for sharing!

@HaiYangChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Very demostraitons!1 it clears up a lot of stuff from my forms!!

well, i am the instructor in the video. from your writting, i can see that you know xing yi a lot. but please think of two things: 1, the posture. chen tai chi people will not use low posture in application either, people will use natural posture in application.

Beautiful, prowerful and so inspiring... I'm a Hsing I Chuan student, and seeing this comforts me in my position : Hsing I Chuan über alles!

We don't mind that. His demonstrations are clear enough.

It's easy to see the portly gent @ 1:00 is very new based on his posture. He carries his weight in his chest, so he has no root, and also he tenses his shoulders while striking forward instead of letting the force travel through them. This is why his footing stumbles so much. It's a very common problem to overcome when learning an internal art. The teacher seems very talented, though... I'm sure he'll help his student break these bad habits through more practice.

Thankyou for posting . This teacher seems very skilled

this reminds me sooooooo much of pak mei with the sinking and the stance and also the way they step foward during an attack, i likkkkkkeeeeeee

This master seems to be a good instructor.

I believe most schools who teach internal kung fu. Will teach a external kung fu before an internal kung fu.

best

@HaiYangChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks,

awesome sifu. some of the best xingyi action i've ever seen. too bad he talks as fast as he moves, looks like his students sometimes get left behind.

I love this guy's moves.awesome knowledge!

hongong circle? i think you must be from there, since i can smell it... intermediate level? too high to me. i am just a beginner level. but i hope i can try it with you.

👍👍👍💪

台灣許多武友看到楊海的功架、發力 還沒有一個不稱讚佩服的 Jimphung偏偏跟人家不一樣...... 說真的 在台灣也不容易看到這麼爽脆俐落的......

JeeYaoKuneDo: do a Google image search for "three body posture". This is the standard opening stance for the various xingyiquan fists. You will notice that one hand is facing downward at the dantien-- this is to protect the lower body region, including the groin. Each of the fists keeps a hand at dantien level pretty much all of the time. Between this and keeping your "center line" turned, the groin is pretty well defended. Also, the goal is to hit them first before it becomes an issue! :)

Yes, they are practicing Fa-Jin (explosive power). Most southern styles benefit from this sort of explosive power and if well done (by a very advanced student, who may have studied Hsing-i), Fa-Jin will be evident. It is however much easier to learn Fa-Jin from Hsing-i, as that is what Hsing-i is all about.

Funny, I take the tekila without the salt... Guess it's down to personal preference! :-) Thanks for the comment! J

I so wanna learn Xing yi, since i Saw the Movie The One with Jet Li. I Like Boxing and i think if i learn Xing yi it will improve my game :)

great applications

first i wanna say u guys are doing an awesome job and i love the way u guys train...but i will say this...u guys do beautiful techniques but from what ive seen u guys dont finish the attacker off...this can b very dangerous because ur body remembers they way u train...u wouldn't want to freeze up out on the street just cuz u nvr trained on how to finish somebody off...at least this is wat i was taught...take care and keep up the trainin :)

Why do you see what is shown here as absolute. Any technique in any martial art style seen as an absolute can show disadvantages. In a real fight, it's up to the practitioner to flow and adapt to what is presented to him. Single movement drills are not anything to judge a technique by.

I really agree with what you say about speed. I don't practice Xin Yi, even though a Chinese friend has shown me some easy moves, but I unfortunately experienced some 'real' situations. Speed or strength are really nothing (maybe some bonus...dunno), cause what matters is precision. Plus, being 'speedy' encourages panic.

Wow. Makes me want to study with him.

Right because when you learn techniques in BJJ they don't drill.

(continue) 3, elbows can not pass the range or elbow, it is ture. for sure i know that. but in some situation this rule can be broken. and more precisely, the elbow should not PASS knee!!!

awesome!

@chronocide The difference is knowing how to apply the movements in a lively way VS copying shapes from a book.

nice

Against the first attack, the defender sidesteps and punches at the same time. The attacker shouldn't be able to kick the testicles from that angle. At the end of the punch, the defender is on the outside of the attacker; the defender is off the attacker's center line, and has his own center line on the attacker. The defender is in a far better position to strike than the attacker.

ilove this! thanks!!!

You know I understand your point on this, but the thing is sparring is the best way to start perfecting technique. Although they are stiff now, after some time the technique will become more fluid. They could use padding, but that impedes movement, and being a person that has actually been hit by some of those attacks, I have to say, it is dangerous if a real practitioner hits someone with the technique.

Students have much to learn. Lack of balance, lack of Xing, lack of Yi.

i think you have to look more carefully: what i am teaching is not Shanxi style at all, i teach hebei style! the so-called vertical circle in hebei style is not focused as much as shanxi...

Just an observation...one or two of the students need to be aware of leading with the head too much... they are losing balance because of this.. Great video, thanks.

很好

I didn't know that deflections were used in XingYiQuan... Looks like Wing Chun?! Oh btw., how isn't a XYQ-fighter worried about kicks to the groin?

I practice karate, but if I should try something else, this might be it :)

@davidmartinez9804

5 жыл бұрын

Only if you get a real teacher like this amazing one. Be careful you are not wasting your time with bootleg sifus.

Yeh, teacher is really good. And apart of many his kung-fu is really alive. He really know applications and have experience in fight. Anyone can say his name?

I do Wing Chun and I like what I see. The teacher I think has good skills. His students aren't exactly picking what he's teaching correctly though. I wonder if it's because of a language barrier or them being just new to the whole thing.

@jessedolinar537

5 жыл бұрын

The students fundamentals aren't there yet, so their root and application looks sloppy.

And with more mobile footwork.

@enterzenx you may have a valid question, but I'm sorry to say that I didn't understand a word you wrote.

their idea is allright. curious: how can you judge inside of outside? what do you mean inside? can you see inside? can you show me some demo of inside? i have been doing it for more than 30 years, i still do not get it... please help me if you CAN.

First application: block and body uppercut. Body uppercut is body punch, it can't stop you. What if attacker knees or kicks to testicles? What if attacker takes punch to body and then goes for left hook over defender's lowered right arm? Using two hand motion against attack: please explain, seems overly complex... All attackers do one punch attack, nobody throws combination. What happens when someone tries to do left right or right hook left hook, since it is most common street attack?

The students have a terrible footwork, but i like the style. Nice fast hands.

hmm its better to learn it on they air then direct on people cuz in a situation like a fight u will not remember what u need to do

it's a shame that this video doesn't show techniques against kicks es una lástima que este video no muestre técnicas contra las patadas

Yeah, I study Wing Chun and it looks kinda similar too.....maybe because the principles are very similar? Saying that if you look at most Kung Fu you are bound to see similarities to other arts. They both have the same end result - hit the guy fast, hit the guy hard! I do however wish to study this art also - the five fist seems to compliment Wing Chun nicely. Why would anyone Xing Yi practitioner take the previous comment as an insult?

@whatisyournameya can you explain to me the advantages to coming so far forward in your stance that you have to step your back leg forward of your lead leg to regain your balance? (such as at 2:27)

my teacher? it is myself in the video. Vertical circle? you have to see it carefully, everything is there. 45 years trainning? can you kindly show my your video? or we practice together????

you must be a very smart guy, so can you tell me what is wing chun?

Kungfu Cousin??? Do you think I am in that generation??? Hai Yang

i'm concerned about the stance during/after entering, many times the aggressor in these exercises ends up heavily weighted on a straight front leg, almost leaning forward (such as 2:27) with a narrow foot placement. does xing yi practice rooting?

Yes, we go to the WC before, after and even during XingYi class! JK. Seriously, and this is MHO only so take it with a grain of salt, XY doesn't need WC at all. XY is a whole body process where as WC is only upper torso and a lot of chasing hands. If you do watch Gary Lam's video where he Pi Quan his student, you will see a lot of chasing hands before he slams the student. That is WC. If he would have slammed the guy in the first place, it would be XY. Just my opinion.

if I move to Canada I know where to continue practising kung fu

What animals are you using in order please? I think I see horse and chicken but I am unfamiliar with the other ones you are doing.

I don't understand the reason of the parying in asian martial arts. In real fight, parying is almost impossible. In boxing for example, we don't pary a punch ; we just avoid it and strike at the same time.

@HaiYangChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting question. I will think about it.

Also, the thing is in any marital art, the technique needs to be honed over time. And without sparring like this, muscle memory and coordination cannot be learned. The students would still be ineffective if they weren't taught in a method where they spar with actual people and just do forms. I know people who just do forms and have done it over a long period of time. It looks really fluid and awesome, but in a real situation, they have no coordination and muscle memory to make it useful.

You can check him at www.wudanginternal-com (replace - with dot) You have his bio there. J

exactly, like some people said that baji looks like hung ka quan, insult big time

@grandkailong :D That should

Oh please great master, tell us what is real or not! p.s.: I've seen you video on you tube, I suggest to get decaffeinated coffee or a better laxative! LOL!

How would you train? put on gloves and practice like any other style out there? Xing-I is very powerful, few have the b#$ to train the way it should be.

I don't do requests :)

what do you mean fajing? I only know FaJin... What kind of Fajin(if it is fajin instead of Fajing) you are talking abot? Since the Fajin is different between styles... For sure Xingyi use Fajin.

Wait a minute, you are telling a bunch of *STUDENTS* that they need work? No shit Sherlock.

wat was the order of the animals they practiced??

@enterzenx I am only guessing...since seriously I can't understand wtf you are trying to say, but I am assuming that you have never seen a JAB?

can anybody give me a good website i can go to to actually understand the whole concept of hsing yi?

I'd like to see the defense against a left jab.

what is your name ya?

what i can say is that you know nothing of xing yi. you have to learn more .

@chronocide of coarse they practice good rooting but these two guys are doing fine,But from a guy who has been doing hsing for over 30 years now.These two are beginers.But I see what you mean cause the teacher is kinda being sloppy as well

theres another clip of this guy teachin tai chi. who exactly is this guy? these moves look alot like some muay tai moves and wing chu moves..

xing yi is said to come from one of the most famous documented generals in china who fought the jin, drove out invading persians, laid the foundation for one of the 3 internals treasure, the foundation for eagle claw, made 8 section brocade qi gong, master of the spear,double headed spear and jian and you want to compare it to somehing as dubious as alamid? are you on drugs? i saw the vids. no hip, no connection of body, bad posture and no energy wether internal nor external. not impressed.

that looks like wing chun applications

shit!

We don't mind that. His demonstrations are clear enough.