Thanks so much for having Keith on the show to talk about these interesting topics and how it relates to our work!

I honestly read a lot of Shion’s dialogue towards Kos-Mos as a mother daughter relationship.

@FartPriest69

Жыл бұрын

Oh me too dude 1000% mama daughter vibes

@swallowtail1741

Жыл бұрын

Similar to ziggy and momo father-daughter dynamic

I can't say I felt like they were fake-out deaths at the end because I don't feel like the game was telling me KOS-MOS was dying. Shion certainly thinks so, but it just felt like an action scene to me. KOS-MOS said that she could make it back to the Elsa in under one minute, Ziggy agreed, so I believed her. And then in the atmosphere the mystery seemed to be more about, first, what she could do to save the ship, and second, what is the deal with this blue-eyed KOS-MOS, not whether she would survive. Thanks so much for doing this, though. I adore this series from the moment I played it as the first game I ever had for my PS2 as a teenager, and to replay through it with this series has been super enjoyable. I'm so glad you guys enjoyed it so much. It was of course fun to see you be "wrong" about things I know the answer to, but you also taught me about plenty of references and things that I never knew (the Marienkind story, for example). I can't wait to continue playing through 2 and 3 with the return of this series! (now do I ride the momentum to replay 2 right now or wait until it features here, hm...)

@CycloneFox

Жыл бұрын

I can absolutely just agree to this post. I feel the exact same way. Has been such a pleasure to watch this every week. :D

Oh man, I am CRUSHED that you aren't going straight into episode 2!! I don't know why, but it never even crossed my mind that you wouldn't. 😂 I'm sitting here thinking during the episode you'll get some of the answers to your questions next week! Lol. It will be good for me to practice patience, I guess. 😇

@quiddity131

Жыл бұрын

On the bright side, it leaves us something to look forward to! I will have a certain sense of loss after they've fully covered both Xenogears and Xenosaga, knowing that the best stories in video game history (at least in my opinion) are now behind them/us.

@Silvergun_Raven

Жыл бұрын

I think their brains would melt if they tackled all three Xenosaga games back-to-back 🤣

@vicdaman

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Even me being a huge fan of Xenosaga would find back to back all three games being a bit too much. I am totally fine if they do a game between each one. Maybe even 2 games since SH2 is so short.

@Silvergun_Raven

Жыл бұрын

@@vicdaman I'm hoping after Silent Hill 2 (still one of my favorite games) they'll go through Chrono Cross.

@joelkirkwood8224

Жыл бұрын

@@Silvergun_Raven Chrono Cross might be a tough one to cover. It’s got multiple paths that can play out different ways.

currently finishing up xenosaga 3 (best turn based jrpg on the ps2). y’all are going to absolutely love this game when you get to it

@GracelessTarnished

Жыл бұрын

Dragon Quest VIII and Final Fantasy X are superior games. At least in my opinion.

@Zoeila

Жыл бұрын

@@GracelessTarnished nope xenosaga 3 is possible the best turn based jrpg of all time. Dq8 isn't even in the same league FFX is close though.

@GracelessTarnished

Жыл бұрын

@@Zoeila opnion. Just your opinion. Story wise, of course it's superior to DQ8, but it doesn't have that sense of adventure.

@omensoffate

Жыл бұрын

@@Zoeila nah not even close lol

@Zoeila

Жыл бұрын

@@omensoffate by a country mile

Interesting tidbit chaos’s weapons are gloves. He starts with gloves from a spacesuit and ends with Holey gloves. If you remember his touch kills the Gnosis holey isn’t a mistake he is just getting thinner gloves, revealing more skin as the game goes.

Watching the Arc of Mike's hair regrowth has been quite enjoyable this series

I'm so sad this is over, haha. Such an excellent podcast that reaffirmed my affinity for this series. I really hope Patreon allows us to see you continue this series ASAP, because I want to see you analyze the rest of this series and see where it goes. Great work guys, thank you for the amazing content.

Another masterpiece of an analysis. You guys are so talented both as analytics but also just really enjoyable to listen to. I may be a massive Xeno fan but I watch all your videos just because you're all so great at making whatever you're talking about sound interesting! Looking forward to Episode 2 and 3 of Xenosaga and whatever else you get to! I've gotta pick up the pace I'm only about 5 hours into Xenosaga 2!

As always mind is blown listening to you guys, and Keith was a fantastic guest! One thing that sttod out to me was when Cassen mentioned not noticing Mizrahi referring to Sakura as his daughter. I realized that most of the player audience for this game probably didn't go into it as analytically minded and anthropolgically versed as you guys did so most (at least western audience) probably heard "my Sakura" and assumed it was the name of a person not the actual flower to derive symbolism from 😆. Xenosaga is probably the only game I can think of I truely loved for the story alone, and you guys make me appreciate it so much more.

I’ve always been under the impression that chaos’ glowing hands indicates he was responsible for the wings that shield kos-mos and the ship

I cannot stress how happy I am to discover your channel. You guys have been fantastic. I swear I've learned so much just from watching your analysis.

Thanks for this whole podcast series. Xenosaga 1 had so much ambition that it's easy to forget minor stuff that eventually plays out later in the series. I know you are taking a break from xenosaga but I will be expecting whenever you decide to go for episode 2. And speaking of episode 2. Please don't let this apparently popular opinion of dislike bring you down on that game! I personally think it was more fun as a game than episode 1. And the scene direction is such an improvement too. For everything that some people seem to complain about it, i honestly could find similar faults with episode 1. Play the game with an open mind and you will enjoy it.

Thank you for playing Xenosaga and those podcasts, All things I will now write is in timeline of Episode 1 so there will be no spoilers for later episodes, no worry. First of all it's more clear in Xenosaga anime and it's confirmed in kinda Perfect Works kind of book for Xenosaga that chaos' hands glow because he decided to help save everyone with his power, so both he and Kos-mos makes Elsa save entering the Second Militia. Second I highly recommend you both to watch Xenosaga Drama CD before playing Episode 2, there was project of translation for it with using Xenosaga I&II graphic. Why to watch it? there are a lot of reasons, Takahashi himself took part in creating this story and beside Pied Piper (Ziggy's backstory) I think it's best part of Xenosaga story it takes place in story before attack on Kukai Fundation and whole Song og Nephilim segment. Second, there are a lot additional scenes about chaos, how he meet Elsa's crew, Jr and Gainun's relationship with him, more MOMO relationship with Jr and Ziggy, a little more glimpse at Shion's past and the most important thing I think this Drama CD does is an introduction for two U-TIC characters that were very poorly handled in Episode 2 PS2 version, and Drama CD gives some depth to them both. Here is link to first 2 CDs kzread.info/head/PL7H6QPIXwbUSENLm8r-1Odf1RDadjB74g I'm trying to finish edition and translation of the end od CD 2 and whole CD3 on my channel, it should be done in around two weeks I hope. You don't need to watch Xenosaga anime, it's mostly retelling of Episode 1 with one change that there is no Cherencov story and Virgil dies later during attack on Fundation, so he sticks with the Party little longer. I'm looking forward your playing in next episodes. For all those years, around 17-18 by now I loved Xenosaga but always thought about it as pretty not finished story, but when I heard you thinking and talking about plots, characters I have noticed that all questions you made during this podcast, they all are answered, in game or Xenosaga III Perfect Guide and it's amazing. Anyway if Encephalon part was amazing for you then you goint to love episode 3 1st disc, for me it's most amazing of Xenosaga story and it always hits me like Hammer how good this is.

I thought it was chaos that gave KOSMOS those wings. After Nephilim asked him what he wants to do, he chose to actively intervene in the events going on instead of simply reacting. And he shielded KOSMOS from burning up on re-entry like she was supposed to Edit: and to add, that was an immensely important moment because it cemented that he was someone beyond what anyone imagined him to be

@AHCOSTYA

Жыл бұрын

Oh SNAP 🤯 makes sense too because chaos had those wings throughout the whole game, like his Angel Wings attack.

@Masenken

Жыл бұрын

@@AHCOSTYA I tried to clue the guys in that as they bought weapons, his attacks got stronger the shittier his gloves got. Basically, the purer the contact, the more his power bled through

Hyped for this episode

Iconic big Joe

At the doctors office on the dock colony you can weigh your lead character and KOS-MOS weighs like 300lbs or something. Ziggy breaks the scale. Everyone else is normal.

To me it makes sense that Momo stands for the Sakura/cherry and the other ones are watered-down Sakuras (kirschwasser = cherry water).

Having found you guys during this series, I'll be waiting for ep 2 and 3 eagerly. Love your content, keep up the awesome deep dives for great games

XGAM represent. Shoutout to Mist and everyone else if they see this.

Kasen is going to absolutely KILL IT with silent hill 2 so excited man

You guys should play the Zero Escape series, there is a lot of math but also about collective unconcious, and they are short games.

This has been a very informative series. I have only ever played the first game but didn't pick up on half of these references. I do hope you get to Episode 2 sometime this year!

I am elated that you are covering Silent Hill 2! I have seen so many great video essays on it. I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say about it! I hope there's a chance to possibly cover Silent Hill 1 and 3 too.

@Silvergun_Raven

Жыл бұрын

I think the last big dive I remember watching on SH2 was from Twin Perfect and I know they’ve received a ton of criticism towards their videos on the entire series.

@silenthillfreak156

Жыл бұрын

@@Silvergun_Raven This is the 2nd time I'm hearing that they got criticism. Why is that? I saw constant proof to support their statements. I love Twin Perfects videos on Silent Hill.

Gentlemen! Excellently done I enjoyed your thoughts at the ending most of all. I remember finishing the game for the first time, elated but also a little concerned. Objectively, the ending does not "resolve" the story: it is not clear even now who the villain is, or really what anyone's "goal" is. We have a handful of characters who have been pushed to "grow" but on a personal basis we don't even know any of them as well as we knew Cherenkov if you think about it. So the second the credits rolled I thought, "Episode 1 *indeed* " because it only now feels like "the party" is formed. I'll save my thoughts on the rest of the series, but the giant cliffhanger(s) at the end here are probably why I played and replayed this game obssesively until the sequel released

@quiddity131

Жыл бұрын

I played the game when it first came out, having been a massive fan of Xenogears (even running a fansite for it) and will admit to quite a level of disappointment with Episode I, largely because of the lack of resolution. At the time the fact that we had a game that built up and introduced a lot of stuff and clearly had a massive amount of ambition didn't change the fact that it wasn't a complete story and any resolution was years away. That and the very bad press Episode II got led to me not even buying that game when it came out although when Episode III came out I bought both games (getting the now extremely rare Episode III which goes for hundreds of dollars for a mere $30). After playing through all 3 games my opinion of Episode I did go up considerably as having the full story showed how really well planned things were from the very beginning.

@bartandaelus359

Жыл бұрын

Playing for the first time i resonate with this very much.

Awesome podcast guys! Now just be prepared to have your minds blown at the start of Episode 2.

I LOVE that both hosts do an amazing give and take with all involved in the show and allow everyone to fully speak their opinions and extras it make this podcast feel so free flowing and I never feel like theres a rush to “get through” or skip over parts- thank you 4 and the 2 amazing hosts. Your work truly resonates in my heart

Great analysis guys! I can't wait for you cover Episode 2 and 3 whenever that may be.

I enjoy the analysis of Xenosaga 1 and great job!

Even though Episode II has a variety of issues, there are still great story and character moments that make it worthwhile. Looking forward to when you guys cover it. Silent Hill 2 is a great choice for the podcast, definitely one of the non-JRPG games to cover Also, you guys could totally do podcasts of just interesting discussion about a particular topic. I don't think you even need to tie it into a game. Or you can look at the topic across multiple games. It would be great to dive deeper into some aspect of Nietzsche, Gnosticism, Jung, etc.

Congrats on finishing this!! I just got through your amazing Xenogears analysis, and since I recently played Saga I'm excited to watch through this soon as well

Cant wait to watch you guys cover SH2. Curious as to what possible guests you may have during this.. You two are doing an excellent job!

This needs to be seen by more people

Really enjoyed TJ and Keith's contributions to the series!

Just wanted to give you guys a comment telling you that you're awesome. Looking forward to the next game being analyzed.

Thanks for this series guys. It's been interesting, confusing, thought provoking, generally wild and earned a patreon sub. Glad you're not straight onto Episode 2 though. :)

beat the game a couple months ago and finally got through all the podcasts. very good discussions. pumped for xenosaga 2

Great job as usual guys, it was a lot of fun following you on this go through Xenosaga Episode I, much like it was to follow you for Xenogears, Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story and various other games. My only disappointment in this finale was no discussion of the ending songs. Fitting with all the discussion of pain in the end of the game that we have a song named after that. Quite possibly my favorite song from the game (Gnosis is also up there for me). Kokoro is a pretty good song as well and is a motif we've heard numerous times throughout the game. Alas this is it for Joanne Hogg singing for the franchise after 4 songs across this and Xenogears. And a farewell to Yasunori Mitsuda as well although Yuki Kajiura does a fine job taking his place (and even surpasses him). I do hope to become a patron soon, ideally in time for that vote on whatever you cover after Silent Hill. Incidentally enough Nier Automata which you mentioned is a game sitting on my shelf, waiting to be played for the first time after I finish my play through of the Xenosaga series inspired by your podcast (in the late stages of Episode III now). While Xenosaga II is a downgrade in virtually every way in comparison to Xenosaga I, it does still at least have a pretty good story which is your main focus anyway.

The guests have been amazing. I love seeing this podcast thrive, and it's cool to see Resonant Arc grow with it's own group of characters. Really glad to see Keith here with ideas of death/mortality not being something that inherently gives life meaning because it's one of the only things I (somewhat) disagree with Mike and Casen on, and it would great too see that debated or just discussed between such a group of insightful people, especially in relation to games like these.

if you want to talk about metaphors when it comes to Sakura and Momo meaning something Japanese Cherry Blossom Trees don't breed in fact they are spread via a process not unlike cloning involving removing a branch and making it root there in by mass producing the same tree but Cherry Blossoms them selves don't seed or fruit to reproduce. as for Momo I am just going to say think famous story involving Japanese Peach Goddess

In that scene where Virgil dies, it never seemed to me like Febronia contacted him and made him a testament or something like that. (Which seems fitting from what you guys already deciphered from Xenosaga's story) But instead to me it always seemed like his final thought was from the past. Maybe a woman he once loved, which now seems strange, considering that we now know that Febronia was a realian, who he hates. It also wouldn't make sense for him to be calling her by her name if he didn't know her. He calls out "Feb". I don't want to say any more to spoil things, but think about it this way, Febronia wants people to face their life and pain to get stronger and where they need to be. But when Virgil died and became a Testament, he didn't get closer to her.

Can’t wait to see you guys dive into episode 2!

@ResonantArc

Ай бұрын

Ep2 will begin next week. We just released an episode on Pied Piper today.

@pastelnightmares

Ай бұрын

@@ResonantArc Oh my god, yes!

This has been such great content. I literally watched playthroughs and recaps just so I can keep up with this. Really enjoying the Xenosaga story. Second is boring so far but that seems to be the consensus till you get to 3

I can remember going back to do an extra save, more than once, when thinking that I would lose Kos-Mos after the cutscene.

This is really awesome!. I should mention the development of Xenosaga V!. Will be starting up soon!. 2023!.

Xenosaga Ep 1 was really good with the one serious issue being the combat system in my opinion. PLAYING the game is such an awful chore but the story Takahashi and his wife made is again SO GOOD. I cannot wait I NEED IT NOW! The analysis of ep 2 and 3. I finally got a job thats taken up far too much of my time that I stopped playing Xenosaga with you which is disappointing to me. I was excited to follow along in game with you but tis life. The way you formulate these videos showing cutscenes are seriously diving deep into each line make's it easy to follow along without playing and I couldn't be more appreciative of your work and everyone else who has contributed/done their own work. Retrograde Amnesia, TJTheEmperor and everyone else. I said this in the Xenogears Finale. I cried. In appreciation of your work. I'm completely fine with admitting it. I cried out of appreciation. I am so thankful. Xenogears is and has been my favorite game since release in 98 so I was 13 at the time, I recognized that there was SO MUCH more than I could understand going on and never looked into it for whatever reason until you were about halfway through your dive into it. It's kind of like the work you've done here has filled a hole in...my soul is probably going too far but there was a hole that you have filled and then some and I'm so excited to learn more. These podcasts have been fulfilling. There is a necessity to these podcasts. I almost couldn't be more broke financially. I feel horrible I can't support outside of commenting and liking. You deserve so much more than what you've got. These views and likes are literally criminally low. This message is so long already and I want to say so much more though I don't know what else to say. Thank you so much.

I haven’t played subsequent games (although I am looking forward to them now) but I had a slightly different take on the ending: In the atmosphere scene, especially because of the lead up, my takeaway was that what happened in the descent wasn’t Kos-Mos at all. They show Chaos already in the mech hanger and it really feels like he’s struggling internally, debating on actually taking an action and saving the party and “revealing himself?” Kos-Mos walks past him and he actively tries to stop her, I think he’s like no I’ve got this. But she goes anyway. Then you get the scene with the angel wings and you see the feathers on the cockpit window, which is Chaos’s entire motif, he uses them in most of his tech attacks in the game. As Chaos uses his powers, you get that scene of chaos with his hands glowing and then it cuts to (insert xenogears reference here), windhelm, and Nephilim. I took this as the kind of trope where you have an all powerful being that can’t get involved without subsequent (potentially dire) consequences. And him using his powers in this way “changed the game” and alerted other major players. Because as Nephilim says, Kos-Mos is important to Chaos (although we don’t know why) and he couldn’t permit her sacrifice. Hence the intervention. The only thing is, because she went out there, it permits him to disguise his intervention from the party? Although I don’t know why that would be important.

@JEANS__

Жыл бұрын

im surprised they never once mentioned that all of chaos's' techs being themed around angels. because of this it made me view the ending in the same light as you.

Can't believe it's already over

Can you guys do an analysis of serial experiments Lain?

@gumielmgz

Жыл бұрын

i was just thinking about that! Holy crap I'm going to be all over that

@M4ruta

Жыл бұрын

That'd be awesome!

oh I remember xenogears god and mind!!!

Is there anyone else that can't find this episode on spotify? I like listening to the podcast version when doing other things

"Leave all these questions for the intro to the next game!" The intro to Episode II: "So I hear you like questions." *Upends a wheelbarrow of completely unrelated question marks*.

Anyone else noticing some parallels between Jr/Albedo and Fei/Id in this episode? Especially with Albedo calling Jr. a “coward” and his “other half.”

@Xenobears

Жыл бұрын

Also, @54:45, another reason for the separation could be that it’s a safety feature. If the station is disabled and about to crash into the planet’s atmosphere, separating into tiny pieces would increase the surface area for burn-up on reentry and reduce the impact on the planet.

I so agree on the ending being somewhat lackluster and flat

Holy crap I forgot about God & Mind!! Didn't they even write a fan novel?

I'm not one to make demands of any KZread channel, especially this one since the fun for me has always been the surprise of what Mike and Casen talk about next. Plus I don't have the coin to be a Patreon, so I really wouldn't want to make requests. Having said that . . . It would be so awesome if the guys covered the Plague Tale games. And I mean both, back to back. Because having just recently finished the second, Requiem, it became apparent to me that both games are two halves - distinct halves, no less - of one giant story that is one of the BEST stories told in the medium. Hyperbolic of me? It's just my opinion. But there's lots for the lads to chew on. A Plague Tale gives you great spectacle, great characters, great drama, great themes, and tonnes of symbolism for them to cover. And if you don't cover the games any time soon on the channel, I just recommend both games to anyone reading this comment.

might be a really obscure title to review, but could you guys analyze the baten kaitos series?

I'm pretty sure the character bios in the instruction manual say that KOS-MOS is only ~200 lbs or so; she's surprisingly light for an android.

Very enlightening look at this game. Honestly every time I look back at these games there's always something new I discover and you all brought up new stuff for me to look into. I look forward to when you tackle the rest of this series. As for episode 2 when you get to it... Yeah there's a decent story there, but like I think Lorerunner said it feels like a first draft. I'd argue episode 2 is also kind of a nothing game as well because a lot of it is meaningless filler that does little to nothing to advance the plot. Luckily it's short and the little bits of story that are there are pretty good. Just don't expect much and look forward to Episode 3. Oh and you can skip the post game dungeons unless your a masochist who likes the brutal challenge of episode 2's combat. Speaking of this game's combat it actually introduces a couple mechanics that the Xenoblade series would refine, Break Topple Launch in particular, so it's kind of fun to mess around with the earliest form of those systems. Oh and I gotta mention the music because it is my favorite and least favorite soundtracks of the series. The Cutscene soundtrack is amazing and a great collection of Yuki Kajiura's earlier experimental work, and I kind of like it a bit more than Episode 3's which is more subtle but still amazing by comparison. The gameplay soundtrack is more of a mixed bag. I actually really like the battle music in this game, the boss theme in particular is very underrated, but the level themes go from not that memorable to ear grating garbage. It's not complete trash and has some highlights, but yeah that composer definitely was being rushed on this one. Heck if you look at the cutscene soundtrack titles it's pretty obvious they were planning on using quite a few of those songs in a completely different context than they did in the final game. Heck some of the songs like both versions of Bitter didn't even play in the game. Oh and you will not convince me otherwise that "In the beginning there was"/"Fatal Fight"/"Image theme of Xenosaga 2" isn't the theme song for Xenosaga as a whole. Oh and when you finish episode 2 check out a Missing Year and Pied Piper as well. They help explain some things going into episode 3 and you'll be a little less lost at the beginning of that game if you do.

@quiddity131

Жыл бұрын

I think aspects of Episode II certainly are filler (a pointless car chase scene, and a dungeon in disc 2 which is universally considered as nothing more than padding), but it also has some really good content for characters like Junior, MOMO and Albedo and provides a significant new character to the mix (whom I won't discuss further to hide spoilers). I too am very high on the soundtrack, Yuki Kajiura's work in particular (the main theme in tracks like Opening Theme, Sweet Song and Sakura #4 is amazing stuff), but actually don't mind the other music in the game that much either. Some early game tracks are rather lame but ones used in disc 2 areas in particular I enjoy. I too really like the boss theme, far better than what we got here in Episode I (no boss theme at all!).

@SacrificAbominat

Жыл бұрын

@@quiddity131 I'd say most of the dungeons are filler even if they have some story relevance. The one you go through twice for summer and winter doesn't exactly have any significance to the story or characters. It's just level padding to get to the story bits. Heck most of the dungeons on disc 2 just have cutscenes at the beginning and end with little to no story in-between even if it takes place in a very story relevant area. It's as if the developers were more interested in making "cool" level designs first and then just slapped story relevance onto them after the fact. Episode 1 and 3 placed a lot of story significance over their dungeons that nothing really feels like filler in those 2 games. Heck that one dungeon in 3 where there is no boss fight and the character at the end said he was just there to distract you while the other bad guy was executing his plan had more way story significance than most of the dungeons in 2. Also I really don't like the puzzles in this game they make that one padding dungeon on disc 2 even more of a slog because they happen in almost every room. I do have a soft spot for episode 1's battle theme, but actually having multiple battle themes for character battles, mech battles, minibosses, and bosses really helps in this game. I think it's mostly the music from disc 1 that is more ear grating. Second Miltia and the summer dungeon in particular are my least favorite songs, the winter one was pretty good though. Whereas I actually like quite a few of the dungeon themes on the second disc, even if they don't exactly fit the series in terms of tone. It's the worst soundtrack in the series more because it doesn't fit the tone that well, but you can still enjoy some of the in game music on it's own.

Keith would probably be a perfect guest again if/when you guys do NieR: Automata. I mean, talk about life extension.

You guys should watch the movie Darkman after this game. Directed by Sam Rami. It's a great take on this idea of what no pain does to a person.

You guys should do a playthrough of Silent Hill 2 if you've never played it. That'd be an interesting video series to look in to!

14:11 Episode 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:11:50 Casen mind blown. he is completely lost. got a good laugh from this.

if you put the ring of power into a heavy stone box and drop it into the mariana trench, it's not coming back in 4000 years or ever

I thought it was chaos who does the wings that shields the Elsa at the end?

I think they used this as an ending to leave the player with some level of hope and triumph.

Xenosaga Ep 2 will make you understand why people have such a negative reception of the series. Part 1 is actually amazing, Part 2 repeats too much without doing enough new stuff and the fights are just sooooo much longer that it's nearly unbearable. Even just a generic random battle with some goons can take upwards of 20 minutes towards the end of the game. Part 3 though... pretty good. I still like the first part best.

@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness

Жыл бұрын

That's so weird, I have the opposite experience and all of those negative attributes I have towards episode 1. The battle system was so grindy and took forever. Episode 2's battle system was snappy and I wrecked enemies fast.

Hmm your description links to Keith and TJ's work seem to be broken?

MOMO………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………😢.

Hey, what's the name of the song that plays for the outro of the podcast?

Both of you should definitely watch Blade Runner. The Realien/Replicant parallels go quite a bit farther than just the name drop Easter eggs Honestly while watching the film version it’s easy to just replace the word “replicant” with the Xenosaga “realien” and have things still make perfect sense.

48:10 can't give spoilers so just putting a time stamp

Ooooh wait, did I overhear that we're getting a Silent Hill 2?

Have the Arc guys talked about what TC means in this game? i think it is a Huxley reference.

@trexalfa

Жыл бұрын

TC means "Transcend Christ". It's not explained in any Xenosaga related media... but it is in Xenogears Perfect Works. The timeline presented in that book and in this series use the exact same term

Mike, the theory you're looking for with the thing of 3, is just diminishing returns

Anywhere else to play these games? I never beat Xenosaga 3 and years ago ended up selling my PS2 and all three games

8:22 I don't know what Casen is wrong about, but he's definitely wrong. Was hilarious watching Casen go on that tangent about Sakura and Kirschwassers and it never occurred to him that Sakura is a girl's name.

@bartandaelus359

Жыл бұрын

Sakura is a girl's name that means the exact thing he spoke about. It means cherry blossom when it's a name as well...

Will you be doing part 2?

@ResonantArc

Ай бұрын

Ep2 will begin next week. Pied Piper went up today.

Do they ever reveal how Vergil and the others became what they become? I completed all 3 games, but I dont remember that.

@quiddity131

Жыл бұрын

It is a plot point in Pied Piper; I'm not far enough in Episode III to confirm if they fully explain it but my recollection was they do.

@trexalfa

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is explicitly shown in Pied Piper, but it is more widely explained in the Episode III Database, as well as in the Complete Guide and the Perfect Guide, which you can find online. Both are invaluable to anyone who wants a full understanding of the series.

When do you guys plan on playing Xenosaga 2?

@ResonantArc

Ай бұрын

Next week. Pied Piper went up today.

Hi, is the channel moving on to xenosaga 2 next, or a different series / game next?

@CycloneFox

Жыл бұрын

They said that it won’t be too long until they get to episode II, but next week will be Silent Hill 2 first.

@TheOneBearded

Жыл бұрын

They say Silent Hill 2 in the video. No doubt they'll get around to the sequel.

@bartandaelus359

Жыл бұрын

they tend ot go JRPG > Smaller game > Western Game > Repeat so after Bioshock now it should benext although they might do something else instead. I'd rather they be in the mood for it than force it and be bitter about being compelled to play it tbh.

If a shitty Zohar emulator was able to vanish Ariadne or convert it into a Gnosis, and the original Zohar was discovered on Earth, and now the area around Earth is a void hundreds of millions of light years in radius... hmm.

1. Albedo's mech name is also interesting 2. Proto markebah has very interesting things you have missed I think. The first line of defence are mechs, slowly merging or at least coworking with gnosis creatures. Also there is a part where you come out of a door and there are two twin like mechs on each side with different colours, which is related to there names. One of them is an illnes some sort, other rhymes to it but also a popular japanese music performer from the times the game is made. 3. The second line of defence being mostly demons ... like classic gothic versions of the concept ... devils is also noteworthy. Especially later meeting the last line of reactor defence being fallen angels, both esthatically and title-wise. 4. Maybe subjective, but having the Erde Kaiser in my toolset at this point really gave a different reading of the title of the game. It was enough to have it, knowing I can easily X enemies in front of me to make me play the game by the rules. Previously I had difficulties and put it down for days after certain places and encounters. And even with this power alone you can't defeat the the final boss and using it once stops you anything else with shion (no healing for example). 5. I think the creators are in a narrative trap with Kos-Mos. Around that time was a topos of miysterius, jack of all trades, socially damaged, beautiful but deadly girls. Sometimes I think this comes from Firefly. Kos-Mos is the same and never ... never could any writer do something with it because it cant change, if it changes the whole story is siderailed. If we are in rewrite fanfiction territoy Kosmos should have said to Shion Good morning instead about succesful mission signing an inner change. Can't do that in this topos. 6. Interestingly Virgil lives much longer in the anime series and works with the team until the battle on second miltia. In many places he is the military like personal instead of Cherenkov, but Kos-mos uses him as collateral none the less. Looking forward to the series about X2.

@quiddity131

Жыл бұрын

6. My recollection was disliking Xenosaga the Animation, especially because Cherenkov's role is so much smaller and his storyline may be my favorite in all of Episode I. Although I would be interested in seeing more Virgil and the dynamics that would come into play if there was more time early on before KOS-MOS killed him. Been so long since I watched it I can't recall the details.

I couldn't take any of the dramatic KOS-MOS scenes even half-seriously. You can't have your messiah god/machine figure dressed like THAT in these moments that are supposed to shatter your understanding of the world up to that point. You structure your whole damn brilliant story to culminate in these huge shocks, then you tear it all down making your CAMERA'S MAIN AIM TO INFORM THE AUDIENCE OF THE COLOR OF HER PANTIES! It's comedic gold!

@bartandaelus359

Жыл бұрын

Every scene with MOMO was nearly unbearable due to the constant upskirts. It was really uncomfortable and definitely not okay. Always happened at them ost inappropriate times too. I really dislike how her character is handled really.

I'm worried Xenosaga II would never win in the polls... I would skip it and put Xenosaga III in the polls so it has a chance of winning

@ResonantArc

Ай бұрын

Ep2 will begin next week. We just released an episode on Pied Piper today.

@felixthecatx887

Ай бұрын

Excellent news!!! Psyched for the series.

Xenosaga II is indeed a 25 hour game... unless you do everything. The postgame alone involved fighting the final boss 20 times at max, adding 10 hours to your playthrough. Maybe don't do that. hehe.

Maybe you need to so a series of short primer videos about the themes that keep coming up in the games you look at, lol. That way you don't have to keep giving the same increasingly truncated crash courses of gnosticism, alchemy, and psychology every other game

Shion: No parent has ever seen their children as abominations. Me: I beg to differ! Just ask Jr., Guinon and Albedo. 🙃

Oh I forgot.

You guys hear about the lab grown vrain that can play pong?

ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ 😇

About the Y data part, Z is the vertical axis in geometry. X is a point. X+Y is a line. Z is the 3rd dimension.

Am I the only one that looked at chaos early on and thought: is he Jesus?

You want KOS-MOS to die and come back in a more pure form? Interesting ... :)

Oh my god, Keisen, dude, did you even play the game? How could you not recognize Abel who is fetching Fei from Xenogears, which you meticulously analyzed for 20+ fetching episodes? Sometime your cluelessness is mind boggling.

@JEANS__

Жыл бұрын

because Abel shows up for 5 minutes total in gears and 2 seconds total in this game? its completely reasonable. and the xenogears analysis was also years ago.

How you downplay the Xenogears connections is remarkably sad :( Everyone who played this at release played it with Xenogears in mind and that’s the developers knew exactly what they were doing. Ignoring that stuff is just…blasphemous.

@FartPriest69

Жыл бұрын

I would’ve also loved to see this but I think they’re just being polite with spoilers :(

@michaelcoraybrown

Жыл бұрын

In what way have we "downplayed" connections to Xenogears? We have played part 1 of a 3 part story. Casen and I have not played this series before. Downplaying something suggests purposeful handwaving. How can we even do that when we don't know where this story is going?

Yes.

Ayo where's episode 2

@ResonantArc

Ай бұрын

It will begin next week. Pied Piper went up today.

I want to watch this so bad but I'm having fun grinding in the encephalon spot lights lolol