Great video as ever. I use the Mixamp TR with the Astro A40s - never noticed audio latency on XBXSX.

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey yes in real life I don’t think we can notice this. If I play both clips together the Xbox gunfire for sure is slightly delayed, but whilst gaming I’ve never felt it off sync at all. Also when I got the PS5, it wasn’t like wow the sound is amazing, it was actually the opposite, as I love the Dolby access processing without the surround effect.

I’ve been waiting on this one, yessss

Great video brother, really interesting Love it

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man, hope you are doing great. Season 2 is looking great not sure if you'll be playing it?

@markfromhungary3022

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechy i hope you doing great as well I go and check what season 2 brings, i only saw the new weapons and fortunes keep, i never liked the map im excited for rebirth, but yeah im gonna play it tomorrow, level up the new guns in zombies, i try to unlock everything fast because i want to start the zombies mastery camo for both mw3 and mw2 guns, maybe playing i little warzone, And you? You gonna play?

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

@@markfromhungary3022 playing multiplayer right now. The new small map is smaller than shipment 😂. I might finally start camos now.

Dope analysis! COD and other actions game audio delay is more than acceptable. But in Alan Wake 2, Callisto Protocol, HiFi Rush where there’s lip de-sync or you’re timing a button press to the audio cue it’s distracting and kills the experience. Tweet Phil and Xbox; it really should be as close to 0 ms as possible at the system level. Maybe there’s a newer, better solution for atmos processing. 🤞🏾

Awesome test, very in depth. I personally run audio from HDMI with my xbox then use a turtle Beach USB Xbox desktop mic so no controller audio will be involved. I found this to be better audio then the dac in the controllers as well as less delay. I use a audio extractor between the xbox and TV to a DAC/Amp. As all the console licensed audio stuff seems to be semi garbage.

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

I do hope Xbox open the true USB audio options. Audio over hdmi does sound better. The usb mic solution sounds interesting, I want to use my creative G6 with optical and was thinking of using Co pilot controller for mic solution.

@ur_pore

5 ай бұрын

The TB stream USB mic has been huge for me, it also has a headphone port for mic monitoring and such, however I find the built in DAC of the usb mic to be similar to the controllers and not be sufficient to power high ohm cans. I believe its the only usb mic xbox has licsenced and I had to buy it off ebay since its so old. I had a friend who suggested the g6 when I was initially figuring out how to use audiophile equipment with my xbox, my buddy I believe does it differently by going hdmi to the TV then from TV to the g6, I assume via optical or line in. The only tough thing about the audio extractor is getting one that has VRR 120hz and all that jazz as most TVs have limitations with audio pass through.@@thephototechy

@REINO_PLANO

5 ай бұрын

​@@thephototechyvocê acha que a Microsoft pode liberar as entradas USB para Microfone algum dia?. E sobre mais opções para fazer Live diretamente do console?.

I ended up picking up the GameDAC Gen 2 on sale for $70. So far, I haven't really noticed a delay which agrees with the top comment - the difference in latency is not really noticeable. I am pairing this with 1MORE Triple Driver earbuds. I really wanted the GameDAC foe convenience because I use multiple controllers and its much easier to use my headphones this way. I will say, this device really added depth to the soundstage, particularly the bass. Gun sounds and explosions have so much more punch. Positional sounds feel a bit more precise as well. For $70, I personally feel like I'm getting my money's worth.

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey yes the device is absolutely amazing, and the latency really depends on the use. Like I mentioned as well it’s not something that I could ever pick up. The only time I can feel it is in bf2042, where at times my own footsteps felt like enemies.

Thanks for the vid, was waiting for this one! I'm curious how this is with DTS for headphone vs Dolby for headphone. Which EQ profile did you use for Dolby? (Gaming performance mode or your own EQ profile). Currently owner of the same hdmi extractor trying out optical now :)

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey so I do have the results of DTS and windows sonic, DTS has a little less latency of around 1 frame 8.3ms compared to Dolby, but personally I feel the sound to be not accurate. Dolby I use either custom eq with virtualiser off or game mode but with performance mode off and use either detail or off. There is one amazing feature if you use custom eq and enable volume level toggle, honestly it makes it you hear everything. You’ll have to get used to it as even friendly footsteps are loud and you’ll feel as if enemies a lot closer than they are, but once you get used to it, it’ll change the game. I have tried performance mode and yes it’s a nice balance of not too much surround and still stereo feeling, but it still does this effect where audio from the left is slightly in the right ear as well, so personally I think any virtual surround is not for me.

@AcSn0opy

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechy I agree DTS not being accurate sometimes. I think it really has the best virtual surround but for some reason sometimes sound comes from somewhere else and I'm always doubting if this was COD or DTS. Definitely going to try the Dolby volume leveler with the Gadgetry tech Warzone target EQ. Hopefully this will be a gamechanger! Thanks again!

A HDMI 2.1 audio extractor is as much as a DAC so I’ll live with some latency. 😆 ! I use my PS5 more than my XsX at this point. Great work as usual, thank you

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

You know bro there is one that’s a bit cheaper and sorta same size as my HDMI 2.0 but still £80 is a lot. I hope Xbox open the UAC protocol and honestly that’d make Xbox even more appealing. Funny thing is if I connect my G6 to Xbox it’s not recognised at all but the G6 will show the led colours saved on the pc, connecting the G6 to ps5 reverts the led to factory colours, so there is some usb communication is there but not for normal audio output.

@HelveticaBold1

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechy interesting, did you test audio extractor with the G6 on XsX? Will it pass Dolby Atmos for headphones? I quit COD and I went back to playing BF2042 which has great audio.

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Oh yes I did and xbox output true dolby signal, as G6 indicated recieving dolby audio, but like the mixamp its 26-27 frames so over 166ms compared to ps5, sounded amazing though without any sbx processing on G6.@@HelveticaBold1

Wow I have the arctis 9x and the game sir g7 se had no idea I had the best setup for Xbox no wonder I’ve loving my setup rn

Hey man, thanks so much for the details here. I'm sorry if I didn't understand something, but what is the latency of the base case of using a headset through through a controller? I'm looking at the Gamedac Gen 2 because it's on sale, but I'm trying to understand if there is going to be a noticeable delay between no DAC and the standard headset plugged into the controller.

You should run some tests on the series X hdmi audio pass through. I have tested 3 separate soundbars on 3 separate TVs and get massive delay, it’s an age old problem in online forums. Would be very interesting, especially the best XBox settings for soundbars (Altho I am sure there are many variables)

@marcellofrisina6460

9 күн бұрын

another 5 months later, the issue persists. Audio latency on Xbox series is terrible when connected to a soundbar via HDMI. Interestingly enough, I've found that passthrough helped things a bit, but the issue is very much still present. I measured anywhere from 40-70ms delay even with the hard-wired connection

Finally someone brought it up. Xbox needs to fix this issue. It’s one of the reason i switched to ps5

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Having true usb audio on Xbox would be a game a changer. Now that Xbox is opening up wireless to their party controllers maybe we are in for a test with usb audio as well, I surely hope so.

@kenzilbaptiste2519

5 ай бұрын

you left bad for bad lol ..

@Troynex

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechyi Hope for the new cod 2024 They will add Crossplay off Like on ps5. And hopefully the Game Runs better as on ps5. Because at the Moment you have less Input Delay on ps5 than Xbox

My very simple thought process is, there’s a 75ms difference between one of the best and worst solutions. That’s .075 seconds of latency. Realistically, how many of us are going to notice that in real world use case. We all want the best gaming experience that gives us the advantage but I’d argue that in this scenario no one’s KDR is going to be affected by any of these set ups. Nevertheless, very interesting.

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

I couldn’t have said it better. I’ve played these clips together and listened to the audio and felt the difference is definitely noticeable but will it impact gaming, coz whilst playing I couldn’t tell audio being out of sync. One good thing I discovered was video latency is same on PS5 and seriesX where the controller matters and not the console.

How did you set up optical properly with the mixamp?

What optical extractor did you use I'm wondering if the audio would be better sounding with the optical

@Ruzien

4 ай бұрын

My bad bro I just noticed it says right there lol well I purchased it too so I find out if the audio sounds more detailed

I’m guessing direct optical out from the TV to the mixamp is the best you can get as it wouldn’t require the extra processing of the extractor. That’s what I use so I hope so 😂

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey I think so too, need to definitely test for that. Atm I don’t have a tv with optical out as playing on a monitor, I’ll be asking around my family what ports they have at the back of their tv 😂

@robday2007

5 ай бұрын

Is it possible to run a dac through the monitors optical out and use some Hi-Fi headphones? Just wouldn’t have a mic.

Hey. What extractor do you use? Does it support HDMI 2.1?

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Bro I’m still on the cheap hdmi 2.0 only 😂 thinking of getting the 2.1 to also test if it improves latency.

Removing the optical out on the consoles was a massive mistake

I’ve seen some latency tests that show the arctis nova 7x has having lower latency the arctis 9x. Any possibility you could test this?

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey I had to borrow the 9x and the 7x looks good, but I much prefer my wired setup. The tests you are talking about are they on Xbox or pc?

My TV has an optical out (which I use to connect my external speakers). I've been thinking about getting a Mixamp TR and an optical splitter to connect my headset via optical. Basically: optical cable from TV > optical splitter > mixamp > headset But then I thought: do I even need a mixamp for that? Wouldn't an optical to p2 adapter just work?

@FaunoLab

5 ай бұрын

I've just tested plugging my headset to the p2 out of my optical to p2 adapter that I use to connect my speaker and: 1. I can't use Dolby Atmos processing that way. (Fixed: just changed to an HDMI Arc port) 2. I can't control the volume of the headset. 3. I can't use the mic at all.

Does the optical though a TV with ASTRO give you good latency?

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

I haven’t got a screen with optical out port but judging by my results, I do think it should be better than the usb audio. But it’ll also depend on the screen as well, definitely one to test for, now I need to find someone who has a screen with optical port 😂

Hey Bro, so about the headphone jack being disabled while using the 1000hz on the g7se. My co pilot controller has very bad stickdrift and it literally broke, so It doesn't even turn on. So I figured out a way to get audio. I used the remote play feature with my phone. I connected my headset to the my phone while using remote play on the Xbox app. As same as you with the co-pilot method, I was wondering if this method had any latency impact on the g7se. I can't test it because I can't shoot a 240fps video😅. The other method (in my case) was just to buy a Xbox one controller (to save money) not a series controller, but I don't know if Xbox one controller has the co pilot option. My other question is, is the audio output quality the same as the series controllers or worse? Pls help me out brother THANK YOU

@Ruzien

5 ай бұрын

Bro just buy a USB mic for your phone and make a separate account for your phone and have your main account be in the party with it

@Meidey_

5 ай бұрын

Nah bro that's to much for me, I ain't doin allat

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey Tommy ears the elite series 2 is noticeably better than other controllers, the only one I feel sounds like the elite s2 is the ROG Raikiri, ASUs does maker it having an ESS dac on board. I’ll test the Xbox one controller and let you know as I do have one of those. The remote play sounds like a good solution as well and I need to test that for latency as well. I did test Co pilot latency of series 2 and it was pretty much the same as stand alone numbers.

@Meidey_

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechy thank you very much bro

@Imtoast2011

5 ай бұрын

My brother plays with his headset in his series controller without co pilot and plays on the g7 se it works without any added inputs from second controller and the audio works fine

Every USB headset I've tried has latency, even the official Xbox one (to me it honestly feels worse on it than my others). If you add Atmos or DTSX it makes it even worse. It's been this way since the Xbox One. Really sucks. Optical through an extractor seems to be the only answer. I've got one from Orei that's an 8K Splitter/Switch combo with an optical out. It's a little pricey but it's worth it.

@gamerxd4338

5 күн бұрын

Which one did you get?

Its weird i don't notice that much delay on my end using iems with Astros mix amp. My iems don't have a mic not sure if that plays a part

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Now you’ve got me intrigued bro, I need to test again with a headphone or iem. I do think the numbers are low for us to even notice. I didn’t notice it tbh and the only reason I did the test, was playing back and forth for a video of G7se and Edge, and it sorta felt that I acted on sound cues differently, even though I love the Dolby acccess sound signature on Xbox.

@Ruzien

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechy yeah I use dolby Atmos with performance mode off and have it on detailed instead. My iems sound much better that way

@elhomoflow

5 ай бұрын

@@Ruziennon performance mode adds enough delay to be noticeable in rhythm games

How is the Input Delay for the new Astro a50x ?

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Consider it’s using hdmi for audio, I have a feeling it should be very low, probably lower than my optical extractor. But I can’t be sure as I haven’t used it and honestly it’s out of my price range by a lot, but it definitely looks like an amazing option.

What about ps5, sound blasterx g6, and optical extractor?

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey so yes will be doing a video with those tests. With my extractor it added 1 frame compared to usb only, so 8ms added on optical.

I think they were via PC. (Although I don’t care about that test which is why yours are so great because I play on Xbox!) The 7x Nova uses a usb dongle for connection to Xbox vs the Xbox wireless protocol. Idk it’s weird but apparently the latency is supposed to be lower via the dongle. But your tests show the opposite really!

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey yes I was looking around for tests and found only pc results. The issue seems to be audio over usb from Xbox, it’s like the audio is only reserved for Xbox wireless and anything else seems to have more latency, wether it’s a wired controller or a usb dongle. I’m going to ask around if anyone has a usb dongle headset and test that. Honestly I’d like to see similar numbers as ps, coz even the controller wired is like 10 frames for me on ps5.

on ps5 does 3d audio add to the latency when compared to plain stereo? 🙏

@thephototechy

5 ай бұрын

Hey no latency at all added in all my tests

@JamesWoo1

5 ай бұрын

@@thephototechy thanks for your reply, so ps5 audio does have an advantage in terms of latency 👍

what does stereo means?

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