I'm glad Parris talked about geographic proximity to the actual servers affecting the experience. That has a huge impact on latency, in addition to Internet infrastructure.

the xcloud experience on my steamdeck has been superb.

@GoHardOrGoHome85

12 күн бұрын

I use it on my Legion Go with no issues but i do have a Verizon gig internet plan.I also used it on cheap motel wifi and my job on break still no issues so i guess its where you at

This is KFG Vol. 3, Episode 47 (Episode 531 overall)

Great timing for this episode! Xcloud on my Aussie NBN network was awful a year ago, but trying it out again this week on Series X via wifi with Forza Horizon 5, it's almost flawless, albeit with a lower-than-native-4K resolution. I cleared the entire HotWheels mission sets in the global top 0.26% (diamond achievement) with zero noticeable lag, dropouts, etc. Whatever they fixed, it's working 👍👍

I just bought the fire stick yesterday and finally played gears of war , im a PlayStation guy though , but playing gears was awesome . 2006 to 2024 , that’s how long it took me to play Xbox games

I gained a whole new amount of respect learning that Paris is an FSU fan. Go Noles!

A Shallow Hal reference in 2024. Wasn't expecting that one

Hardwiring the controller makes a huge difference too. Probably why Greg has a better experience with backbone

Due to horrid circumstances, I found myself away from home for 3 months early in 2022. I was somewhere with pretty great Wi-Fi and played Xbox on my Android using the Razer controller. Sometimes for hours. And it worked amazingly well. Everything from slower games like The Good Life and Pedestrian to faster games like Nier Automata and Into The Pit. Can't recommend it highly enough. Nowadays, my kiddo is old enough to have her own phone and she prefers to play Little Kitty, Big City and Forza Horizon 5 on there compared to her console.

Cloud gaming technology in Norway is almost flawless 🎉 Cloud Gaming is the future

Okay I didn’t know Mike and Greg were so knowledgeable about college football. Much love as watching CFB being my favorite entertainment outlet

Nearly 5 years later it still baffles me how much Google fumbled it with Stadia 🤦‍♂️

I've only used Xbox cloud gaming a handful of times, though I was playing at my house. I used it to play games I didn't want to wait to download because I was only trying it out or doing it to complete an Xbox Reward quest. I played Elder Scrolls Online, Party Animal, Forza, and Watchdog 2 through cloud. I was quite impressed, there was slight latency, but the games were completely playable and doing it through cloud was a convenient way to play.

My son is just a few months younger than Ben so exciting to hear what Greg has done and try it, my son played one race of Sega all stars but mostly just drove into the wall, but might have to give how wheels a go

Loved the family theme. I remember that my little brother (13 yr old now) got into gaming because of me, and it's been fun watching him kinda "blossom" into games, and watching what he likes to play, and it's such a warm feeling. Even though I live in another country at the moment, my mum tells me that he wants do do stuff that I do, that he looks up to me. And he sometimes texts me on discord about games

This was an excellent episode! Especially the dad part was perfect, as a dad myself!

For clarification, you can hardwire the amazon devices. Same way as you can with a chrome cast.

I'm jealous of anyone having an 8/10 experience with Xbox cloud gaming. Even with gig-speed internet it's waaay too janky to use for me. On my phone it's super laggy and graphics quality regularly dips. Playing through my Series X on a hard-wired connection the lag is acceptable but the graphics quality still dips too much. But the biggest issue for me is that it seems like every time I try to play there's a 5-15 minute queue just to start the game. It's faster for me to install the game at that point!

@josephflemming7370

13 күн бұрын

Yikes… sorry to hear that! That’s horrible.

God bless Mike hosting, god bless Paris surrounded by this beautiful familiar green and finally of course Gregsux! WooooOOOOoo

Parris says that you can only be wireless n not hard wired on a Firestick... Kind of, but not really. There are adaptors for ethernet cables. I got the upgraded version of a Firestick with a Amazon Fire TV Cube a while back. I got multiple of them to stream apps that have every TV show and movie for free on them. They include the ethernet adapters with them. I know it is only the Firestick new 4k version that gets the Xbox Cloud app, and not the old Firestick that everyone has. And I am curious if it will be available for the Fire TV Cube, seeing as those are much more powerful than the Firestick... I'll check that out later

The trouble with cloud is everyone has a different experience. Based on location, based on your WiFi hardware and network, based on many other factors. We also all feel latency differently. Factor in everything and that means for some it’s fine and others it’s possibly unplayable.

Do they have any plans to bring Xbox app to chromecast 4k devices. I would assume you could get all the same apps you do on your phone but its not there. I have had Firesticks in the past but had issues. Chromecast just works so much better and much nicer now that they have a controller

Another thing about latency is that most "good" solutions have Ethernet to the device you are streaming to. Stadia for example was only great for latency while the Chromecast/PC was wired, but it was latent while over wifi. This Amazon Fire Stick I assume has no solution to be wired... Samsung gaming TV was likely wired during that demo.

Miss having Gary and Pairs on

"Is cloud gaming the way to play in 2024?" Stadia was my WAY to play for 2 full years from late 2019 to late 2021. If Google would have actually succeeded well enough that it would have gotten hardware upgrade when expected (2021-2022) and be perhaps more powerful than PS5 right now, I never would have stopped using it and never looked back. At the time Stadia was a HUGE upgrade from base PS4.

Such a great episode! This one really hit with me, as my daughter is just about to turn 1 next month. I can’t wait to see if she gravitates towards video games when she gets a little older ❤❤❤

Use xcloud almost daily. It runs so fluidly, with the odd hiccup. Really impressed with it. With using that so much, i really don't feel the need to buy another console. Will likely be 100% cloud here on out.

You can use fire stick hard wired using the Amazon fire sticks Ethernet adapter 😊

I am lucky. I live in the metro NYC area and I am 3ms away from An Azure Server and have gig internet. I rarely have any glitches/hitches or macro blocking. I forget I’m even streaming most of the time. Also, I have a lot of friends who I showed XCG and they don’t even own a console and they are satisfied.

Parris says that GeForce Now is a Pay For service... And that is 90% right. GeForce does have a Free Tier. The Free Tier is not using the 4080's like the Premium Tier does.... AND the Free Tier only gives you a 1 hour stream of free gaming, then boots you. The premium tier gives you 6 or 8 hours of streaming straight each day.

Semi-informed person here - in addition to proximity to data centers, the extra latency for some streaming servers is mostly caused by how powerful the underlying hardware is. Typically, services that use gaming PCs (Geforce now, Luna) have lower latency than Xbox because they use gaming pcs - Xbox only uses Xboxes. Believe it or not, this makes a huge difference.

If you have a good internet connection and are semi close to the servers, you are golden. With that being said, if you play sports games like mlb the show, those become troublesome as the latency greatly impacts the gameplay.

Thanks for sharing more about playing games with the kids! Such a buzz when you see it start to click with them. Super Mario Wonder is such a perfect game for getting kids into gaming, we've had the same success with it, awesome game!

My experience of cloud gaming services is similar to Parris. I’ve tried Stadia (played it a lot), Xbox cloud gaming and GeForce now. By far the is GFN, it’s been absolutely incredible with no delay that I’ve felt at all. Stadia was also really good. And sadly Xbox had noticeable delay. It’s unfortunate to hear that it’s still the same.

Review starts around the 12 minute mark.

@Big420Tex

12 күн бұрын

Thanks for the info, luckily I come for all the Shenanigans. #KFBF 😂

@erodotosmiltiadous

10 күн бұрын

SBM and Parris start at the 0:00 mark.

XCloud has been the best thing, this gen for myself. Played so many single player games at work. Mostly multiplayer at home. It's been incredible.

I use cloud for keyboard and mouse strategy games where response time doesn’t matter. I dont want to buy a gaming rug for games like rimworld

TORTILLA!!

Cloud gaming is amazing it’s always best to plug in directly your internet 🛜 and controller instead of wireless for less latency and interference 👍👌

My 2 year old doesn’t play games yet, she just holds my useless stadia controller which is now hers to have and watches me or my 7 year old play. He loves to play exoprimal or lego Jurassic park. Sounds like that hot wheels game is a good one to try.

I'm all for more College Football coverage on KF content. Roll Tide!

Love the dad talk too. Mario Kart is great for any kid that can just hit the gas and go as they have bumpers and an option to always go forward. My kiddo is about Roblox and Minecraft. He has been getting bored with it. We play Star wars battlefront 2 split screen with all the different settings you can just always be what you want. Minecraft dungeons to train your to be Diablo player. He also likes to play wwe2k24. Do some triple threat and team up on the CPU. He is almost 6 so it's awesome to see him grow. Sports games still a little too complicated. Then my 2 year old with down syndrome not quite there but does hold the controller. And when the clap in Mario wonder after you complete a level he is always clapping . It's great. Astro Bot looks like something for the whole family as both my boys lit up when they saw that game. Love all the content

GeForce now kicks the shit out of off both Xbox and Playstation streaming. The only option worth the money imo

No timestamps? Must be a Kevin day.

The comparison to ps portal isn’t apples to apples since that’s not cloud

Cloud is a cool option, but it won’t prob ever b better than local

Xbox Cloud Gaming (Beta) is the correct term.

Isn’t the target audience for this NOT people that are going to go from local to cloud? So that adjustment is not going to be a big deal for most people right?

Could be a 12 person small business... smh Greg (Just jokes I love all y'all)

Every time I try Xbox Cloud Gaming it just makes me miss Stadia, it worked soooo much better

@CheefChaos

14 күн бұрын

Guessing Xbox has much more people using it makes s difference

@LilRenlor

13 күн бұрын

@@CheefChaos it's just not great, GeForce now and Amazon Luna are both better, but none of them are as good as Stadia was

8/10 ????? Stop it

Another reason to not have to buy a xbox console.

I know this is a episode about Xbox and the cloud service on the fire sticks but I just wanna give a shout-out to steam link and Ps Remote Play they all work great when the connection is good! Stayed up playing Days Gone last night felt like future man

Any day any of you three want some of Big ND, say the word.

PS Remote play is nice where you can play your games installed to your PS5. But I hate the controller support and third party apps do it better. My razer kishi works on every except the PlayStation app. Gamepass is really good when I have a stable connection and I have their entire library without needing to install. And controller support for gamepass is great. But being at a hotel or on my mobile network streaming has not been great. It's hit or miss. I am here in Minnesota. I prefer local install on my PC or Rog Ally and that is my best gamepass experience.

As someone who has followed Greg since Beyond 150, it brings a tear to my eye to hear him talk about raising his son. 🥲

I would argue Paris should’ve known that playing most of those games he mentioned in the cloud would have delay. You’re playing a fast twitch MP game. You can’t seriously think that you’re going to get 1:1 console gameplay. That ain’t happening when you play in the cloud it would be best to play a single player game. That’s a bit laid-back then you can get the full experience and you probably won’t notice the lag as much but when you’re trying to play against someone who has a hardwired ethernet connection and you’re playing on the cloud, you should get annihilated

@marcello696

14 күн бұрын

how can you argue something I said I knew would happen?

For me, xcloud has always been the worst with lag. You assume with it being Microsoft they would be the best, but I’ve always had the most lag with xcloud. I’m not a big cloud gaming fan but man, remote play is awesome. Using moonlight to stream from GeForce experience to stream deck is magic. Lag is basically nonexistent.