Xanthan Gum Primer: Diving into Ratios and Synergies. WTF - Ep. 302

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This is everything you need to know with Xanthan Gum, and more. We explain the best use cases for xanthan at different ratios, highlight some common troubleshooting tips, and show off some great synergies. We even developed a great new “solid sauce” recipe for an avocado knot, that is a great accompaniment for your fresh and tasty poke bowl. Follow along as Scott and Janie walk you through the basics and more, on this week’s episode of WTF
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:09 What is xanthan gum?
2:24 What are xanthan usage recommendations?
5:03 What makes a liquid thickened with xanthan 'snotty'?
5:34 Reviewing xanthan ratios - 0.1% - 2% by weight
7:27 How do determine the right xanthan usage ratio for your recipe
8:39 How do we prevent xanthan from clumping?
11:20 What gums is xanthan synergistic with? How do they work together?
18:37 Taste Test: Avocado Knot
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  • @benjaminchung991
    @benjaminchung9912 жыл бұрын

    I'd love a deep dive into emulsifiers and surfactants and what criteria are for choosing one emulsifier over another are. You've done a lot of great emulsifier content before, but mostly in the context of a single emulsifier rather than a survey of the whole range.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted!

  • @judysbakeryandtestkitchen1654
    @judysbakeryandtestkitchen16542 жыл бұрын

    I’d like to see the difference of protein powders in low carb baking. Egg white, whey, collegan…. When you use what. I’d like to know more about when to use guar gum and when to use xanathan. Also agar. Maybe add that episode on next My first time watching. This is so valuable!!!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted!

  • @MichaelREFLECTS
    @MichaelREFLECTS2 жыл бұрын

    Yess!! So happy you all do these videos. Love it.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    More to come!

  • @brettrailey5584
    @brettrailey55842 жыл бұрын

    This was a great, comprehensive video. I found this site while looking for a way to thicken liquids (milk, cream, etc.) into gravies without the "snotty" texture. I know you try to keep the videos under 30 min but a comprehensive series similar to this video (or one long deep dive) into thickeners with notes would be worth paying for. Thanks for what you do!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! We love to help!

  • @tmcaleer50
    @tmcaleer502 жыл бұрын

    Loved this presentation, so many alternative ingredients we have opportunity try and experience. Thank you for sharing your experimentation and wonderful ingredients with us.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @louisebachand4126
    @louisebachand41262 жыл бұрын

    I love your daring and inventive minds. Great ideas!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 😊

  • @flavrt
    @flavrt2 жыл бұрын

    Well, this is exactly the content I was looking for - special effects with pairs of emulsifiers/stabilizers. Congratulations to me for a solid learning experience. I'm a timid 0.3% xanthan type, so the presentation of progressing concentrations rang the bell. TY

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @r4ultra
    @r4ultra2 жыл бұрын

    Woohoo! I’ve been waiting for this!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy!

  • @lindalester7055
    @lindalester70552 жыл бұрын

    Omg I’m so happy to see this, in our low carb way of living thickeners are so tricky and frustrating. Xanthan is one of the few we can get in this little town so it was incredible to finally see the science of effective use.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @nijinokanata111
    @nijinokanata1112 жыл бұрын

    The science behind it is awesome

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @gokhanelma
    @gokhanelma11 ай бұрын

    Thanx guys for video

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @mstyblu379
    @mstyblu3792 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered Xanthan Gum a few months ago when I was looking for a good thickener for gravies. I love it!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're using it!

  • @carrolllee6875
    @carrolllee68752 жыл бұрын

    You need to deep dive Koji. There was a lot of good education provided in your earlier videos with a lot of suggestions but you never showed the short ribs, or potatos. you can pickle vegitables in shio koji. show it.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @MarkSamuelson32
    @MarkSamuelson322 жыл бұрын

    God this demo you did of the synergies helped me sooo much in guiding me towards what I need to R&D further on a difficult food project I have. Thank you for your channel and doing more than superficial few minute videos which KZread is saturated with (makes it hard to dive deep for information on YT with anything food related especially.)

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad we can help!

  • @eyoung6943
    @eyoung69432 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video! I’m constantly having to re-research and guess every time I want to thicken or use a gel. I loved the section on mixing with other ingredients, as that’s what I often end up doing. I would love to see a series on these focusing on considerations for thickening and gelling water based vs. fat based vs. alcohol based liquids. Do some ingredients work better in high fat content like oil? How do these ingredients react with acids like lemon juice or vinegar?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great ideas!

  • @Bgirlsweetness1111
    @Bgirlsweetness11112 жыл бұрын

    Love this episode!!! I am all about the hydrocolloids. I would like to see a series of videos on fibers and how we can use them to make healthier meal choices. Oat fiber, konjac fiber, psyllium, inulin, apple fiber, resistant starch, and so on.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion!

  • @janelmore6677
    @janelmore66772 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I really like the topic of gelatines & thickeners! Vegan gelatin update would be fun!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted!

  • @mikej9062
    @mikej90622 жыл бұрын

    This one will be a hit. Everyone buys this stuff once and then realizes that it's so potent that the amount they bought is like a 3 year supply for a modernist chef.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts!

  • @michaeljensen7896
    @michaeljensen78962 жыл бұрын

    Great episode again! 🎉 I think multiple episodes on sweeteners/sugars would be great. I have family members that are diabetic or keto or vegan and trying to find the best sweetener is always a challenge; how does a sweetener effect insulin? Just a thought…. Keep up the great videos and love your camera and editing team ❤️

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen this episode? blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-sugar-substitutes/

  • @heidiw637
    @heidiw6372 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos! I would love to see a video about Keto tortilla chips... something I haven't been able to perfect in my own experiments.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stay tuned! We have a very exciting recipe coming...

  • @TUG657
    @TUG6572 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Would love to see you cover plant based ground beef. To see how to perfect it and how to avoid making mistakes.

  • @julietittler9171

    @julietittler9171

    2 жыл бұрын

    They have a many deep dives into making various plant based meats: beef, chx, fish, bacon, steak. The taste great. Check them out

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen this episode? We are due for an update... blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-diy-plant-based-burgers-and-more/

  • @TUG657

    @TUG657

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@julietittler9171 I did already. They are truly great! I’d just love to see more, especially more of the ground beef they are planning on updating.

  • @TUG657

    @TUG657

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Modernist_Pantry I did. Waiting excitedly!

  • @julietittler9171
    @julietittler91712 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a series on keto sauces and glazes. There’s so many different way to thicken gravy‘s, sauces, and glazes. Egg yolks, all the various hydrocolloids etc. It can be confusing and overwhelming to the home cook.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    stay tuned!

  • @JoeHusosky
    @JoeHusosky2 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see multiple episodes on keto pastry crusts

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you see the pie episode? blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-keto-pie-crust/

  • @gjaeigjiajeg
    @gjaeigjiajeg7 ай бұрын

    Amazing resource right here. Thank you so much for the experiments. Does there exist a gelling agent, that sets even at hot temperatures, and stays set when reheated or warmed? Ideally with comparable consistency as the Xanthan and agar sample you just showed?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    7 ай бұрын

    Probably a blend of gums - check out our guide to gums: blog.modernistpantry.com/advice/reference-sheets/a-guide-to-gums/

  • @gjaeigjiajeg

    @gjaeigjiajeg

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Modernist_Pantry handy!!

  • @jangardner1446
    @jangardner14462 жыл бұрын

    Excellent episode! I use Xanthan gum a lot, but never knew the ratio, so this was very helpful. You talked about using various gums/thickeners together which was also very instructive. Is there a reason you used carrageenan vs one of the gum combos for developing your gummies? Also, Is there a chart available which lists the various gums with their uses, preparation (hot/cold/either), base ratios (eg. 1%) , and best used for? Maybe even potential issues to be aware of when using? I understand that usages vary, but this would be helpful for those of us dipping our toes into this. It would be great to have a multi-part, deeper dive into gums/thickeners. Thanks!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Vegan Gelatin is a proprietary pre-blended formula. Certain types of carrageenan has an elasticity in its gel that most other gelling agents don't that is key to making that gelatin-like mouthfeel. Here is our guide to gums: blog.modernistpantry.com/advice/a-guide-to-gums/

  • @maggietopkis4001
    @maggietopkis40012 жыл бұрын

    I always love your videos. I would love to see a "long read" on allulose. It's a game-changer in the keto/diabetic world, because it actually tastes like sugar. But I would love to know, among other things, how to make a "brown sugar" version and also whether it's possible to make something crisp -- a cookie, for example -- using allulose, rather than erythritol, which I think tastes disgusting.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    We do have a basic primer on allulose: blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-allulose/

  • @dannyzwolf4546
    @dannyzwolf4546Ай бұрын

    I add 1/4 tps to blended drinks.

  • @edgardriba7513
    @edgardriba75138 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this video, it was excellent! I am subscribing to this channel. I want to substitute gum Arabic (acacia) on my sugar syrups. What would you recommend as a substitute gum/gums?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    8 ай бұрын

    You can try a variety of other gums, but none of them would have the same texture. You can experiment with xanthan as it's the most accessible.

  • @marksamuelsoncable
    @marksamuelsoncable Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I'd deeply appreciate your reply. Can you please describe specifically how you made the last synergy example @16:31 of locust bean gum, xanthan, and agar? I realize consistency will vary widely depending on ingredients, and ratios, but I want to successfully replicate that cube texturally exactly as you have it as a starting point. Thank you!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    Жыл бұрын

    This was 100g water, 0.75g agar 0.25g xanthan 0.25g LBG. Keep in mind in this is just water with food coloring.

  • @marksamuelsoncable

    @marksamuelsoncable

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Modernist_Pantry Thank you so much!!! (and to others: you have to heat this mixture up to get it activated.. I first tried to do it just cold to no success.)

  • @grimreeper70
    @grimreeper705 ай бұрын

    So for my hotsauces i make and sell im having a problem with my sauces separating and not looking good. What amount would I start with just to hold it all together.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    5 ай бұрын

    Check out our episode all about hot sauces: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHVq0slthpjIlqQ.html

  • @rafequetbava
    @rafequetbava2 жыл бұрын

    I was looking forward to get the ratio of xanthan gum to thicken 1 ltr. Of sugar syrup to medium consistancy.my sugar syrup is already 1:1 ratio with water plus sugar. I wish to further thicken this solution.Please advise.regards,and should I use a mixer or blender?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    We can't exactly provide ratios for everything, but you can start at 0.1% and increase by 0.1% ratio until you get your desired consistency. If you're not using our Perfected Xanthan you'll need a high shear blender.

  • @marjoriejohnson6535
    @marjoriejohnson6535 Жыл бұрын

    More info please..ie does it change flavor. ?? I can taste and identify if something has agar in it...

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    Жыл бұрын

    If you taste or truly get a 'slimy' feeling from xanthan you've used way too much.

  • @MsLansones
    @MsLansones Жыл бұрын

    I use Xanthan for my Brazilian cheese bread.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds yummy!

  • @komoru
    @komoru Жыл бұрын

    The chef sold me on this. Never trust a thin chef.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    Жыл бұрын

    😅

  • @lauralarue1923
    @lauralarue1923 Жыл бұрын

    I have been experimenting using this to solidify liquid to add to my Italian buttercream frosting, but my question is, does the xanthan gum make a liquid more heat stable when it solidifies?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    Жыл бұрын

    It does not.

  • @henryallen8264
    @henryallen82647 ай бұрын

    I made some blueberry syrup but it was very watery. Can xanthan gum be used to thicken that finished product?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, try starting with 0.1%

  • @Whoismatthewhooper
    @Whoismatthewhooper2 ай бұрын

    What was the ratio of xanthan and guar and what ratio would create the solid state gel?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 ай бұрын

    That's all R&D and testing to find out what works for you

  • @BS-wh4lh
    @BS-wh4lh2 жыл бұрын

    Multiple episodes on dairy free alternatives for baking please.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted!

  • @terrypatoir582
    @terrypatoir5822 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see how xanthan can be used to better keto dishes. Thanks

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion!

  • @tulipchu4852
    @tulipchu48522 жыл бұрын

    how do they perform during hot application?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, xanthan is not temp sensitive

  • @shanemelott3131
    @shanemelott31312 жыл бұрын

    What would be the best emulsifier to hold a pesto together?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try soy lecithin powder: modernistpantry.com/products/soy-lecithin-powder.html

  • @shanemelott3131

    @shanemelott3131

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Modernist_Pantry could sunflower lecithin powder work as well?

  • @miracletimberlake9202
    @miracletimberlake92028 ай бұрын

    how much xanthan gum and locust bean gum to suck-up the water in my flexible but firm agar agar dessert?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    7 ай бұрын

    That will depend on your recipe, there's no easy answer for that.

  • @AbeC116
    @AbeC1166 ай бұрын

    When you say by weight, do you multiply it or divide it?

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    6 ай бұрын

    If you're talking ratios you multiply. For example 0.1% of 1000g is 1000 x 0.001 = 1gram of xanthan

  • @AbeC116

    @AbeC116

    6 ай бұрын

    Alright then. Would it be the same for ounces ?

  • @CaptMarkSVAlcina
    @CaptMarkSVAlcina Жыл бұрын

    I thought you have to boil xanthan gum for one minute in what ever you are cooking with, so is that right or wrong as I see you do it without cooking.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    Жыл бұрын

    Xanthan Gum does not require heating.

  • @CaptMarkSVAlcina

    @CaptMarkSVAlcina

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Modernist_Pantry ok thanks

  • @jacquelinedemarco5246
    @jacquelinedemarco52462 жыл бұрын

    The majority of xanthan gum in the market is derived from corn...what about yours? thanks as always!

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Xanthan is not actually derived from corn. It is harvested from a microbe that is grown on various mediums, and corn is one of them. That does not mean that xanthan contains corn.

  • @StarPekyi
    @StarPekyi10 ай бұрын

    How do l get xanthan gum? I'm in Ghana

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    10 ай бұрын

    We ship globally: modernistpantry.com/pages/international-shipping.html

  • @michaelpepper885
    @michaelpepper8853 ай бұрын

    Well anything up above .5% is more likely used in cosmetic products or polishing compounds

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't disagree, less it more when it comes to xanthan.

  • @sharonknorr1106
    @sharonknorr11062 жыл бұрын

    Would like to see multiple episodes on vegan cheeses.

  • @Modernist_Pantry

    @Modernist_Pantry

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted!

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