I’m actually working on a fanfic in which Scott was the one who was cloned How do you think things would’ve played out if things happened that way?

@natovision1

Ай бұрын

😯 first link below where your publishing it, I can’t wait to read that! Second, I could see events happening differently, I don’t think Nathan would have been born. Yet again who knows. Episode 5 could be different, cyclops not getting mad at the news reporter and all that I guess

@lilliamdominguezcastillo5711

Ай бұрын

@@natovision1 Tell you what, I’ll give you a small spoiler The clone’s name is Scout Summers, and his relationship with the original Scott Summers is much better than Jean and Madelyn’s The rest, you’ll have to learn it once the fic is out ;)

@natovision1

Ай бұрын

I LOVE THE NAME! I thought that said Scout and Scott were in a relationship 👀 maybe? Just a thought. If you want to send updates and stuff I have a discord server for marvel and x men things also twitter: @NathanCollect and my discord is also Natovision1 Btw, thanks for that sneak peek!

@lilliamdominguezcastillo5711

Ай бұрын

@@natovision1 Thanks! And no, by relationship I don’t mean *that* kind of relationship I mean that there isn’t that much animosity between the two, and their bond is that of brothers, almost twins

@natovision1

Ай бұрын

True

Maddie was completely justified in her mental break. Her husband really gave off this strong "Oh...I don't want you anymore" vibe.

@liam_harris

Ай бұрын

Madeline deserves better

@SamaritanPrime

Ай бұрын

To be fair, Scott just found out that his wife is the clone of the woman he actually thought was his wife. He needed time to process that he just wasn’t going to get.

@WannabeWryter

Ай бұрын

Comic book accurate, He's a flawed character and this is the flaw 😅

Spider-Man had a clone, Jean has a clone, Thor had a cyborg clone, who HASN'T had a clone in this dang universe at this point

@natovision1

Ай бұрын

True

@sweatshopsammy

Ай бұрын

I would have to guess all the other characters you haven't mentioned

@cyclopstb

Ай бұрын

MJ and Hydro-man both had clones

@eugenestevenkong9430

Ай бұрын

You know if you think about it, most of majority of X-Men has clones too. Jean has a clone (Madalyne Pryor) Wolverine has a clone (X-23) Emma Frost have clones (Stepford Cuckoos) Magneto has a clone (Joseph) Cable has a clone (Stryfe) Mister Sinister has many clones (Dr. Stasis, etc.) Hell, even Apocalypse has a clone! (Evan Sabahnur)

@xiayabennett6982

Ай бұрын

Storm? Jubilee?

I mean, to Scott's credit, he didn't say he would leave her or anything, just they needed to know who the original was. But this would be so hard to unpack in therapy "Sooooo....the woman you love wasn't really the woman you love but she thought she was. Meanwhile the actual woman returns with her mind all messed with. Meanwhile the clone is going through an existential crisis and feelings of betrayal. I'm going to be seeing you all in my office for decades, aren't I?"

@DesignIncase

Ай бұрын

Also by all accounts the clone thinks, acts, and feels just like that woman you love.....so is she not the woman you loved?

@Metalwabbit

Ай бұрын

@@DesignIncase well then we come to the question of consciousness. From an outside perspective yes they are the exact same. But if I poke one and the other doesn't feel it then internally they are different one is just a very good imitation. For an outsider there's no difference from the inside there's a major difference. If my loved ones carried on without me with a perfect copy who thought it was me and they said "same difference right?" I'd be pissed because no it isn't the same. Everything they did I didn't experience. It then feels you don't care about me as a person, you're happy with someone/something that can imitate me. It isn't me as a person but what I represent in your life you care about which is very existential and troubling. I don't believe in a soul, I believe in consciousness. If a perfect replica and me don't experience things at the same time we aren't the same, we're separate beings

@JonSmith-hk1bq

Ай бұрын

The only thing I can credit is that it isn't quite up to the douchebaggery level of what the comic version of Scott did to Madelyne.

I feel so bad for Madelyne, no matter is she clone or not, Scott should atleast stand up for her as for mother of his child, that the only certain thing at this point.

@my_girl_seraphine5294

10 күн бұрын

At least he didn't ditch her to give birth alone on a kitchen floor this time

Of course she is a clone, real Jean would've fainted after that throw 1:03

Whoever thought the one who fainted was the real one called it.

@senorhotpants1851

Ай бұрын

exactly, cus jean always faints.

@Vespyr_

Ай бұрын

I knew it was the real Jean by the stank face Madeline made upon seeing her 😂

@devegas4910

Ай бұрын

Everyone who watched the 90s series always knows. SHE ALWAYS FAINTED

@davidchism6081

25 күн бұрын

​@@devegas4910 falls from a cliff, tripping over something.

Dr. McCoy really needs to work on his bedside manner. Dude didn't even ask to speak with Jean and Scot in private 🤣

@eddyeldridge7427

Ай бұрын

When you find out one of the most powerful members of your team is a clone, you want to make sure you have backup when that bomb drops.

@knuclear200x

Ай бұрын

"Psychic person, I need to talk to you away from the other psychic person *in secret."*

@Nightman221k

24 күн бұрын

I love Beast more than any other X-Men, but it was so goofy how he was more excited to explain what he discovered than realizing that Jean's entire world was crumbling apart. He just says, "You're fake, you're not the real Jean." "But, but I have all the memories of my life how can this be-" "Well, I don't know but you're definitely the fake Jean."

Man, the X-Men really made a volcano out of an anthill with this one. And Cyclops's silence when she pleaded to him definitely sealed it.

He knows she’s the real Jean because she fainted

@amstersheikh6995

Ай бұрын

such an underrated comment☠

Even if she is a clone, she's still the mother of their child. That's all that should matter to Scott!

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

True but there is also the fact that he doesn't _love_ the clone Jean but the real one. It's a very awkward situation for all those involved with Scott having to deal with the fact he had a son with a clone of the woman he loves.

@Vinzie777

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 Also there’s a possibility that Jean might not even love Scott at all, because it was all Mr.Sinister’s orchestration due to his obsession in creating a powerful mutant, the point why he created a clone at the first place to get the job done. I’d like to point out in the og series that Scott and Jean have been monitored by Essex after they got to the x mansion, just right after prof x first recruited them.

@Winter-The-Masquerade

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 Not to mention the fact that we don't know when the switch happened. Scott might have only known her for a year or two and, well, the fact that he was basically tricked to be unfaithful is something that will screw with everyone.

@andreromariz

Ай бұрын

Velho é uma situação complexa. Tipo pode fazer anos ou no máximo um ano q ele está dormindo com uma mulher que pode ser ou não aquela com quem ele se casou. Sem falar que elas além de iguais na aparência ao que tudo indica pensam e agem de maneira semelhante. Quem não ficaria confuso nessa situação, tipo ele traiu a esposa ou não ? ele viveu sempre com a clone ou não ? É muito confuso.

@zs4580

Ай бұрын

​@@javiervasquez625but they also stated in the show that they don't know what point sinister swapped them out since they both have the same memories. They don't know if it was the original jean or Madeline who was possessed by the Phoenix for example. So a lot of the things they've been through that strengthened their bond may not have even been with the original Jean.

cyclops and spiderman both make a pretty solid job on getting constantly fucked by the storyline

@flashtheshapeshafter

Ай бұрын

Scott Summers given such a huge weight on his shoulders at such a young age, all he wants is a family but people in power always just take it away from him😢

Now why would Beast just flat out tell Madelyne that she's a clone in front of everyone like that? What a horrible doctor! lol

@johnlavery3433

Ай бұрын

Beast ain’t got much in the way of bedside manner

@1978fergood

Ай бұрын

She is Telepath, no matter if she is in the room or not. She will know anyways.

@tehmaimed

Ай бұрын

@@1978fergood it’s more about the rest of the team finding out and not Maddy herself, lol. Proper process is for beast to talk to maddy first before he announces it to the rest of her family (in this case, the x-men) and let maddy decide how to break the news to them. Maddy finding out that no one was there to back her up after Beast’s announcement could have been totally avoided

@gumaximoff6374

Ай бұрын

​@@1978fergoodShe doesn't read the mind of her Friends

@d-logan5280

Ай бұрын

In the previous episode he doesn't just bluntly tell Storm her powerloss is permanent, he hesitates a little before delivering terrible news. Here he's like a robot who doesn't even seem to understand why she's not accepting what he's saying immediately, like her issue is with the science of it :) Admit it folks, bad writing.

Meanwhile, in DC's Young Justice: "Oh, so we have two clones of Red Arrow and the OG is now a one-armed vigilante? SWEET! We got a set of three awesome brothers!"

To be fair, i am with Madelyne on this one. She was no less Jean Grey than the body on the bed. She fought by their sides... And they just kicked her away like a trash, because she was "not a real Jean". And Cyclops was a special type of douchebag in this whole episode. She just birthed his kid... I can understand confusion, but she just gave birth to their CHILD... I felt really sorry for Madelyne the whole episode.

@jamestolbert1856

26 күн бұрын

Me too. The real Jean just felt like a plot device or something to add drama and it work

@Nightman221k

24 күн бұрын

I'm Team Madelyne 100%. I think that Madelyne is the Jean that contains the mind of the Real Jean Grey but in a cloned body, where as the the other Jean is Jean's Phoenix side which is why Jean's memories are distorted and she feels like they're being remembered from the wrong perspective. I especially found it shocking that Jean yelled at Scott for sharing time psychically with Maddy. Scott and Maddy had to give up their baby, it's natural that they'd support each other but Jean (who just smooched Logan) had no empathy for them. I can empathize with Scott even in the moment in this clip though cause this is an impossibly bizarre situation and wanting to do more tests to figure out what was going on, but none of Maddy's friends were being considerate in this moment when she was feeling like a copy that had less worth. Especially Beast who was like, "You're just a fake Jean Grey, Miss Clone." Beast is my favorite character, but they wrote him to be unkind here.

@Anonomius0

23 күн бұрын

um, just because she was genetically identical to jean and had her memories didn't mean that she wasn't jean.

@HanithSVK

19 күн бұрын

@@Anonomius0 LoL, what kind of BS is that? She was literally genetically same and her memories were also from the "OG" Jean. She literally is JEAN. The only difference is their experiences since they "diverged". But up until that point, "Madelyne" was, literally, part of Jean. Sure, u may now present some theological remarks about souls and i do not know what else, but that does not change the fact, that everything, beginning with DNA and ending with most of their memories are same. +Main point of my comment was, that everyone kicked Madelyne away like she was a trash. Cyclops, whose child she just birthed, acted everything was Madelyne's fault. She didn't asked to be created. She didn't ask for "real" Jean(as u put it) to be imprisoned by Sinister. Hell, she fought with these guys and would've given her life for her teammates. But most of her comrades, especially Cyclops, didn't stop for even a moment to consider that, did they? Madelyne was a victim just like Jean. Yet Jean got support and Madelyne got suspicion and blame. Doesn't seem fair to me. And the fact that "real Jean" is, as of now, attempting to play both Cyclops and Wolverine, i have to say, i prefer Madelyne. She seems to be loyal, unlike the "real" one.

"Storm would have believed me." I dunno about that.

@B.B.Digital_Forest

Ай бұрын

And as always Storm would have been wrong.

Having a clone is far more original and interesting for a jean storyline than the dark Phoenix for the 58284th time.

@wintertrooper7918

Ай бұрын

Honestly the Dark Phoenix rarely crops up around 616 Jean anymore

How is Scott able to stand without a spine?

If my wife with whom i just had a baby is revealed to be a clone I'd say fuck the original i love my clone girl regardless

@TheLionheart227

Ай бұрын

I mean I imagine scott's more or less the same, but that depends _entirely_ on when the swap happened. if it happened on like... the day _of_ their wedding? definitely questioning. if it happened like... before the first date? Clone woif all da way

@knuclear200x

Ай бұрын

That's just awful Now you have BOTH to love💗💗

Actually Madeline, Storm would have believed Hank like everyone else did.

@B.B.Digital_Forest

Ай бұрын

There was a time when she didn't trust machines and preferred a more 'natural' approach.

@GamingGuy84

Ай бұрын

@@B.B.Digital_Forest Well, she trusts Hank and his work. That’s good enough for her.

@B.B.Digital_Forest

Ай бұрын

@@GamingGuy84 It's good to know her character is no longer some Luddite naturalist.

@Nightman221k

24 күн бұрын

I'd have thought that Storm would probably have thought Madelyne was the clone too, but pondering it over I do think Storm might have been on Maddy's side regarding Maddy having real memories that the other Jean lacked regardless of the ages of their bodies.

They could have checked Jean's jeans for genes. XD

@B.B.Digital_Forest

Ай бұрын

Panty sniffing time!

I hardly couldn't believe this myself but then again Beast's science testing has never been wrong before😒

"Scott tell them." Scott: 😐

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Let's be honest that's how everyone would react in the same situation.

@user-vq9kl4ff3n

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 Oh yeah, of course, but doesn't mean it's not hilarious.

@EM-tx3ly

Ай бұрын

Science before hoes

The desperation in her voice when she says " you know me " breaks my heart

@jeffcarroll1990shock

3 күн бұрын

They know that the real Jean Grey wouldn't act like that.

@kingstarscream320

Күн бұрын

@@jeffcarroll1990shockWell imagine an alternate reality where Madelyne here actually was the real Jean Grey. What else could you say or do to rebut Beast’s hard science? I can understand her frustration.

@jeffcarroll1990shock

23 сағат бұрын

@@kingstarscream320 I understand the frustration. Discovering that the clone's frontal lobe was unable to pass a simple logical conundrum must have been really frustrating for Dr. Nathaniel Essex.

Precursory research of the original series suggests that the most ‘optimal’ time that Sinister could’ve made the switch was back when he kidnapped Jean to give to Apocalypse for his endgame plan with all the world’s best psychics. Makes sense since there was a chance that Jean could’ve died and Sinister wanted her and Scott’s kid. So giving Apocalypse the clone that became Madeline makes sense, both to satisfy apocalypse and put her in a potential position to be rescued by the X-Men should Apocalypse’ plan failed. With all that was going on, they wouldn’t think to look for clones. Either it succeeded and Sinister could still salvage Scott, or it failed and the X-Men either rescue Madeline, or Madeline still dies and Sinister still has the original to work with, either Sinister wins This does mean, however, that Scott is married to the original Jean since that was just after their wedding…or would that mean he’s married to both of them? Clones are confusing

Dude. This minute and a half is better than all the live action movies. Oh yeah. Now that’s the kind of melodrama that put Marvel on the map in the first place.

@uncannydcmarvelous5732

22 күн бұрын

And to think some "fans" are saying this melodrama is "modern Disneyfied woke" xD

Beast: Science is turth Jean: Science is lie!! LIES I TELL YOU Freaks out and storms away Beast: It's not me Jean! IT'S SCIENCE!! SCIENCE I TELL YOU!!! OH SCIENCE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Second Jean saying “oh, fuck Scott!” In the end is the most hilarious part.

Honestly, Clone or not, she's still family either way. Western comics have to be so complicated and dramatic about this.

We're doing this storyline huh, I remember this basically being an excuse to break up Scott with someone NOT Jane in the comics

@thetube2254

Ай бұрын

She IS Jean tho.Jean #2 if you will

@wintertrooper7918

Ай бұрын

In the comics it was more that they wanted the original class to return, so they had Iceman, Beast, Angel and Cyclops but Marvel Girl was dead and some ditor had a rule that you couldn't bring Jean back without giving a way to excuse the Dark Phoenix

Your just going to discard jean (clone) after she fought for you, defender you and even had your field leaders baby.

@clearstar8354

Ай бұрын

Yes, because she is mental. She literally showed aggression (even in this scene) that the ORIGINAL Jean Grey would have never demonstrated. That's why the writing is sooo good in this clip. No matter how hard something gets, Jean Grey has never had the sass this clone has. Secondly, she is manipulated by Sinister. The reality of it is, she needed to be cutoff.

@CeliMe007

Ай бұрын

Because she's a clone, dude. That means a lot of complicated relationship stuff. You do not want to light that pile of matches.

@liam_harris

28 күн бұрын

​@clearstar8354 the new episode proves otherwise

Very confused as to why this is a big deal. The clone is still a person, and she clearly has a relationship with Scott even had his baby. Who’s to say the original Jean Grey will even have the same feelings for Scott as the clone does?

@sarapinkdiamond866

18 күн бұрын

Agreed.

Damn she was like fuck yo test!🤣🤣🤣😭💀

Jean is like Spider-Man not allowed to have kids *ever*

Why didnt wolverine detected madelyn in the first place. He can smell any mutant

@godofthebirds3915

Ай бұрын

Mister Sinister clone are superior. He Madelyne pyor is not just a clone, is the perfect copy of Jean Grey.

@ricocox2591

Ай бұрын

They the same DNA

@Leodog92

Ай бұрын

​@@godofthebirds3915now that just sinister 😈😈😈😈

"Using gamma rays to isolate the haemoglobin properties of each genetic marker..." Does this make any sense?

@CelticVictory

Ай бұрын

Not scientifically. Gamma rays are very destructive to genetic material. Also, while you can have a genetic marker in hemoglobin , you can't have hemoglobin in a genetic marker.

@MrOrcshaman

Ай бұрын

@@CelticVictory Gamma energy in the marvel universe is different to how it works in real life, one of its main 'heroes' turns into a raging beast due to gamma radiation, instead of dying from cancer.

@kyleshea384

Ай бұрын

@@CelticVictory What about beta rays?

@LadyLeomon

Ай бұрын

Comic Science dude, don’t think about it too hard cos I doubt even whoever wrote the script understands it 😅😅😅

@jackstar6018

Ай бұрын

Heck nawl

Spider-Man can relate to revelation of finding out woman you love being a clone

@goliathgar4985

Ай бұрын

But in a alternate universe trying to destroy reality when another clone of Peter Parker was made to replace him and got a carnage symbiote attached to him to go crazy

@eugenestevenkong9430

Ай бұрын

At least the clone wouldn't cheat on you for a random guy named Paul while stuck in another dimension.

@LordDarthHarry

Ай бұрын

Makes me want a Spidey cameo in this series even more. "Turned out my wife was a clone" "Been there done that." "..." "I'm serious!"

@potsdam28

Ай бұрын

Or being one

How can a clone have more personality than the original? 😂

@kiyanwrytte1564

7 күн бұрын

It's called an upgrade lol.

You know, as awkward as the situation is, i'm quite curious to how Spider-man would react to all this, lol

@forrestpowell12

Ай бұрын

"It gets better"

Its all about STORM!😊

@SDR3088

Ай бұрын

Yes it is and I love that she brought her up

0:45. Or someone with (Mr.) ***SINISTER*** intentions.

@jeffcarroll1990shock

23 сағат бұрын

That's obvious. Who else has the capability of making a perfect clone of someone with a unique cellular structure?

Morph's powers are greater then I thought. He can morph into an alien that he's never seen before.

@Arsaja

Ай бұрын

Ah, I thought where did that six-armed lady came from :D

@nqk_0662

Ай бұрын

He can turn into goku

@Nightman221k

24 күн бұрын

The craziest Morph transformation in X-Men '97 is whenever he turns into Illyana Rasputin AKA Magik. In the 90s cartoon Illyana is only 12, she's much younger than Jubilee and we only see her as Colossus' little sister. I don't think the 90s cartoon ever showed Illyana's mutant powers. When Morph turns into Magik in episode 3, Morph's version of her has all her powers and looks like a grown woman.

This reminds why I dislike cyclops I get she ain't the original but she is the mother of your child

@Pierceson-up8fs

Ай бұрын

I mean, I don’t think it’s clear if he gave up on her. She was the clone, so not backing her up on not being the clone made sense. The whole thing is a mess lmao. I don’t think Scott did anything wrong under the circumstances

@jeycii6143

Ай бұрын

Yea I also got angry there. Even if shes a clone clone, she clearly loved him and they had a kid...

@yoyohan9

Ай бұрын

I mean... The conversation is about whether or not she's a clone, not if she's the mother of his child. He doesn't back her up because he also suspects she's a clone. But in spite of that, he's not being hostile to her or denying her access to her child. I don't know what happens later on, but I don't see how he's doing anything wrong here.

@sliferxxxx

Ай бұрын

Ok and even after she goes coocoo, he goes after her and their son. She tries to kill him and even after that, they fight Sinister together. His reaction, was completely understandable. Who wouldn't be confused after finding out what he did....

@pn2294

Ай бұрын

If Maddy knew she was a clone, then she would’ve been raping him every time she had sex

Beast: This is the real jean grey! Cyclops: ......can i keep both? Beast: What?! Cyclops: What?!

@MM-ne6pk

Ай бұрын

it still would be less shitty reaction to what he did

Rogue standing next to Magneto....good foreshadowing...

makes me wonder how long did we have this fake jean gray?

Dont worry cyclopse ill take the clone off your hands

The Maulers: First time ?

0:48 I bet Scott was thinking of some pretty nasty things knowing there's 2 Jeans now.

@ambitions1964

Ай бұрын

he’s a boy scout at heart. i think he would be in disbelief, really 😭

Maddie deserves better than this

Now Logan has one

I just find Scott's attitude to be completely stupid. It's easy to decide who to love. Clearly he knows that he married the clone and that it was with the clone that he had his SON. Plus, it is the clone who has the most vivid memories. In part, instead of facing the situation, he uses Magneto as an excuse. Although of course, nothing worse than in the comic, there Scott was a son of a bitch.

@Anonomius0

23 күн бұрын

okay, HOW is it easy to decide who to love? I mean sure he married her, when he thought she was jean grey and not the clone!

@BARRELKYOUMA

22 күн бұрын

@@Anonomius0 Yes, but regardless of that, you must choose the person with whom you consummated your marriage and with whom you had your firstborn. Scott himself knows that the clone is the real mother. Furthermore, the clone is clearly a good person, because even after freeing herself from Mr. Sinister's mental control, she is still on the side of the good guys.

@Anonomius0

22 күн бұрын

@@BARRELKYOUMA But that's the thing. they don't know when the switch happened and which one actually married scott.

@felipecouto1102

20 күн бұрын

@@Anonomius0 They do know. Its the whole intention of the test.

@livanbard

20 күн бұрын

scott spent most of his life with the original however, they both were recruited young.

The storm would've believed her is probaly true

@_Just_Another_Guy

Ай бұрын

Crazy that Storm missed all this drama. By the time she's back with the team, she probably wouldn't realize that the real Jean is back if someone doesn't inform her.

0:55 How hard is it to admit that despite everything you felt about someone, Deep down, you know it was a lie?

Goblin Queen is so hot 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I love both jeans ❤❤❤❤

I’m still wondering what will Scott do when they baby starts crawling around and takes his sunglasses off his eyes

@potsdam28

Ай бұрын

It won’t be an issue…

@Szemz

Ай бұрын

that won't be a problem, they know what they're doing

@DaSquareful

Ай бұрын

He can still use his eyelids

I like goblin queen better

Peter?. Lois?!

What a shame, that Jean choose Scott, instead of Logan

This reminds me again why I never like the Madelyn Pyror character and storyline in the comics. It was unnecessary to introduce her in the series. Was fine with regular Jean Grey in the series. By the way in the comics Cable considers Jean Grey more his mother than the clone.

@DesignIncase

Ай бұрын

The storyline was convoluted. She didn't even think she was Jean and then you have Scott abandoning both her and his son. Comics wise, these only reason for Cables preference is because Jean got to raise him. Madelyn did not.

@wintertrooper7918

Ай бұрын

Madelyn wasn't originally supposed to be a clone she was just supposed to look like jean and they were gonna phase Scott out as he moved away

@sophiawilson8696

Ай бұрын

The clone was made by Phoenix but they retcon it and made by Sinister. The clone was Scott happy ending.

And like in the spider-man comic that the spider-man clone and spider-man we knew and the clone all this time

I wonder if there gonna bring in rachel summers

Three episodes in and we're already down three xmen, four if you include Xavier.

@chromephone

Ай бұрын

Who is the 3rd one besides storm or jean

@jbabylucus1641

Ай бұрын

@@chromephone. Bishop, Storm and Madelyne. 4 if you count Xavier

@serenitysubs933

Ай бұрын

Hold on were they killed off?

@TheIllustriouBlueJay

Ай бұрын

​@@serenitysubs933no.

@jbabylucus1641

Ай бұрын

@@serenitysubs933 no but none of them are part of the team at this point in time. Spoilers: Bishop took Nathan into the future and doesnt have enough energy in his time band to come back right now. Ororo lost her abilities and left. And now madie is gone

Goblin Queen is fine ngl

But where is storm

I wish to see Rachael Summers 😪!

@Ste875

Ай бұрын

Same

She knows she a clone she probably playing them

@uchegbudivine6885

2 күн бұрын

She doesn't

❤ I'm Glad Spiral made it in this series, I love her being a nonsense in the old atv show.

What if Beast is actually Dark Beast in disguise?

When exactly did Jean get switched? Although I get the whole thing about wanting to know the truth thing I still kind of feel bad about how easily they switched up on the clone. Has she actually been fighting alongside them for as long as she thinks or only a limited amount?

@thetube2254

Ай бұрын

Yeah she was with them for a good minute.The real Jean was in a coma for like a year I believe.

@DesignIncase

Ай бұрын

Honestly we don't know. You'd think it would be as simple as "The last thing you remember and that's where the switch happened". What I took from Jean and Madelyn's exchange is Jean has memories she shouldn't have so there is this overlap that makes determining a timeline difficult without Sinister straight up telling them when a switch happened.

Evil Jean was a baddie

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Good Jean is a goodie.

@EM-tx3ly

Ай бұрын

Jean is a witch both ways Very hot red head energy

Personally, I would try to ensure the clone wife that I love her because of her and not because of implanted memories (due to my personal belief that differences in the interpretation of memories ultimately make up what the person is on a spiritual and metaphysical level) and then urge her to run some tests due to her nature of a clone. That could have some real consequences on my child's health due to cloning not always being stable. I would then apologize to the original because abandoning the clone would be morally wrong. Hopefully, the original and I could stay friends. I don't want a "Bladerunner" to lead to a family court case. If the clone was "programmed" to love me then I would try to be only strictly friends with both of them due to the violation of free will on the poor clone's part and the absolute mess of a situation I would be in with the original. Pursuing any romance with any of them would be a recipe for disaster.

@thomascrissman1124

14 күн бұрын

Thought about this alot?

What clips should I post next?

@Neko_Medic

Ай бұрын

All

Unfortunately he comes in right the mind of the group is what he says it's true unfortunately if it was the clone it was Jean who came out of the door

Denied all she wants, but reality, she is clone. But my concern clone has a short lifespan, so it is possible that the clone dont have much to live....

@paulkellerman2603

3 күн бұрын

You are right. Clone in moment of birth is the same age like his original.

@deltafury1812

3 күн бұрын

@paulkellerman2603 I don't know how long she has left to live....but given date available on clones. It's said clone have short lifespan, and problems with immune system. Yeah clone Jean will face heavy consequences.

@TimberlakeTigerGirl

2 күн бұрын

​@deltafury1812 Doesn't matter anymore, considering she died on Genosha.

@paulkellerman2603

2 күн бұрын

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl It's so sad.

@jeffcarroll1990shock

23 сағат бұрын

@@paulkellerman2603 Oh well... Hopefully she's one of the recycled corpses used by Apocalypse to rebuild his horseman.

No tendrian problema sinla sociedad fuese tan mojigata😊

Uma Jean fica com o Scott e a outra fica com o wolverine e tudo resolvido

I kind of hate how cyclops handle this, i mean he should have stayed with the clone, she is the mother of his child and he SHOULD LOVE HER! i know that she is not the "original" but it was not her fault even if she is a clone its still her... i would feel bad for the original and if i was in cyclpops shoes i would probably tell the original that i still love her but i also love the "clone" and sadly she is the one that he married.

@Aurem15

Ай бұрын

The complicated part is that he didn't know she was a clone, he thought she had always been Jean. She had Jean's memories, but she's not the same person. Anyways, they handled him WAY better than the comics. He walked out on Maddie and Nathan as soon as he heard jean was alive. I don't recall if he was even there for Nathan's birth.

@CCEkeke

Ай бұрын

How Scott handled this was much better than in the comics, where he outright leaves Madelyn and his son to be with Jean when she comes back from the dead.

@ligeiasiren4290

Ай бұрын

LOL, no. He only "loved" the clone, because he thought it was Jean. The entirety of their relationship was sustained by him thinking that was Jean Grey all along. He never loved Madelyn, he loves Jean Grey, and only had a child with Madelyn because he thought he was having a child with Jean Grey. Why would he "stay" with the impersonator he never intended to be with in the first place? 💀. Is not his fault either. If anything, Jean is the one who should be the angriest here, she was the one who had her identity stolen by a random clone.

@Leon-Belmont

Ай бұрын

@@ligeiasiren4290 sorry but i dont think you get it :/

@Leon-Belmont

Ай бұрын

@@CCEkeke i know about the comics but that is not my point, i wish they "change" what is supose to happen but is only my wish.

👉👈👉👈👉👈 for Spidey

Lmao only thing she was gobblin was her king 😂 what a strange villain name tho fr…

@marvinlynch1305

28 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 Goblin, not Gobblin

lol spiral haha

Wait which one had the baby? I’m confused.

@ShadowGun625

Ай бұрын

The clone.

@Nick3gytf

Ай бұрын

@@ShadowGun625 thank you

humor me, when was the swap?

@sanitizerwilson1599

Ай бұрын

They are leaving open to a guess!!

@minicle426

Ай бұрын

When was the last time Jean fainted? That might be a clue. :P

@thetube2254

Ай бұрын

You have to watch the original series.It’s like a three part saga with Sinister where she and cyclops are captured and used for DNA extraction

@wintertrooper7918

Ай бұрын

My theory is shortly after Xavier left to go to Shi'ar space Sinister used some secret phrase to Moroh to get him to unknowingly help Sinister abduct Jean and used her powers or Madelyn to alter the memory of everyone on earth to think Xavier died so that there would be no one to interfere in his plan to get Nathan summers

Yes it truth Meline is a clone of Jean Gray it real truth about Jean real is a Clone Meline yes it truth

You can tell she’s not the real Jean Grey seeing how she keeps trying to manipulate Cyclops.

@hiddentiger73

Ай бұрын

Doesn't seem like manipulation to me, at least at first. Poor woman was just told she isn't real and instead of trying to help her make sense of reality the father of her child immediately drops her in favor of his "original" wife, that would be terrifying for anyone. She's desperate not to be a fake.

@BryonYoungblood

Ай бұрын

@@hiddentiger73 Yeah. It shows how well trained and deep in belief that Madelyne was that she was actually Jean, just as Mr. Sinister had hoped for to be able to infiltrate the X-Men like that. It's just NUTS.

@DesignIncase

Ай бұрын

It could be manipulation or the reality of a mother not wanting to raise a child in this environment.

Ok ok enough! She’s a clone. (Jean Grey) Spidey’ a Clone. Thor had a clone. Thor: I believe it was a “Cyborg Clone.” WHATEVER! And to top it all off Sinister has a gaggle of clones. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS A CLONE!? Deadpool: I guess I shouldn’t bring up the fact that a fan girl got pieces of me throughout my misadventures across the country bringing to life a Frankenstein clone version of me…

@andydietrich3689

Ай бұрын

You do realize Madeline Pryor (jeans clone) has been a character for nearly half a century right??

@rickyhuynh4641

19 күн бұрын

I wanna see mcu clone saga

This is why i akways say fuck beast

So did Scott impregnate the real Jean or not because if he impregnated the clone wouldn’t that mean their son is a clone too?

@natovision1

29 күн бұрын

He had a kid with the clone, their kid still has both their genes since the clone was from jeans DNA

@ricardomarquez7730

23 күн бұрын

Also in the comics and canon of Marvel Scott and Jean’s clone aka Madylene Pyor are the parents of Nathan Summers who eventually becomes Cable.

@MrGabeanator

22 күн бұрын

@@ricardomarquez7730 does he

@ricardomarquez7730

22 күн бұрын

@@MrGabeanator Well Scott and Madelyn Pyror did get together and eventually have Nathan even though Scott didn’t know Madelyn was a clone of Jean yet one thing is still missing like why bother cloning Jean when Sinister could have waited for Scott and Jean to have kids of their own unless Madelyn is even stronger than Jean Grey depending? Also I wonder if Cable knew when his mother was switched out with Jean.

@sarcasticdude2320

8 күн бұрын

But wait, cloning causes sterilisation, the reproductive organs are barre- arhgh f@€% it, it's comics

Wow spiral?

Honestly I knew people disliked the comics very much so later on but now I can see why this shits dumb

@li-limandragon9287

Ай бұрын

Still like this series but I was more interested in regular Jean having a kid for once.

@minicle426

Ай бұрын

​@@li-limandragon9287Maybe we'll see Rachel down the line? 🤔

Wait, did she seriously just use the phrase "your science"... Look, I know she's not the real Jean Grey, but if she shares her memories WHY THE HECK is she talking as if she believes in magic instead of science? I'm just saying, she's doing a HORRIBLE job of trying to prove she's the real deal. And as I keep watching, her language is STILL off. WTF kind of writing is this?

@mr_ars0nist812

Ай бұрын

You would have been acting the same if you find out you are a clone too

@brainflash1

Ай бұрын

Because the writers are very bad at their job and they want to build tension by making her sound untrustworthy to the others.

@eddyeldridge7427

Ай бұрын

​@@mr_ars0nist812 Considering the world they're in, I'd be more ready to accept something like that. It's pretty mundane compared to other stuff they've encountered.

Rick and Morty did this already 🎣

@HanithSVK

27 күн бұрын

Who knows, maybe what happened to Magneto and Gambit(or at least we think so) really happened to their decoy family? 😂 You know, the way to keep people in suspense 🤣

@uncannydcmarvelous5732

22 күн бұрын

The comics did it first back in the 80s/90s

I’m gonna be honest, the campiness of the dialogue pisses me off. We’ll accept THIS, but say the movies are corny and toonish?? 🙄 Give me a break

@sodalite5294

Ай бұрын

it might be from comics

@BaconNuke

Ай бұрын

Oh yeah the series made to replicate/continue the old 90s show *totally* wouldn't have the 90s campiness..

@Newtype-78

Ай бұрын

The movies are fuckin trash

@PyroGothNerd

Ай бұрын

No one's criticizing the movies for being corny They're criticizing the movies for completely changing every single character's personality

The question is that. Which point in time did the switch happen? Because it would have to happened when nobody notices.

@uncannydcmarvelous5732

Ай бұрын

People are agreeing either when Sinister abducted both Scott and Jean during their honeymoon or when Apocalypse was kidnapping telepaths for some bigger scheme on Season 4.

@wintertrooper7918

Ай бұрын

I actually think it was much more recent like just after xavier left to go to the shi'ar empire he activated somekind of brainwashing in Morph to get him to get Jean alone and Sinister kidnapped her and replaced her with madelyn and afterwords used Jean or Madelyn to ​alter the memories of evetyone on earth to believe that Xavier was killed @@uncannydcmarvelous5732