X Men 97: A Lesson in Consequences

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X Men 97: A Lesson in Consequences
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  • @DarthJoel7
    @DarthJoel714 күн бұрын

    1000s of deaths seems low for a worldwide EMP

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    It’s thousands in the first day i believe i think it was to not have a hit--ler situation instantly but overtime

  • @peterminos5604

    @peterminos5604

    14 күн бұрын

    ​​@@millasbooit would be billions dead in the first hours think of all the satellites that would literally be like raining fire then the planes cars trains hospitals anyone on life support or oxygen support and lets not forget the nuclear plants which would all explode at basically the same time these would be in the first 2-3 hours That's at least a billion dead in the first few hours Then the radiation and chaos would claim another billion in the next couple of hours...

  • @piotrkaczkowski7728

    @piotrkaczkowski7728

    14 күн бұрын

    action take place in 97 . We took in last few decades big technologial jump so now it would be singinificantlly more damaging . Then in most off the world it meant turning off lights

  • @FULANODETAL

    @FULANODETAL

    14 күн бұрын

    @@piotrkaczkowski7728 wel still a lot of damage,,no phones,no faxs.no TV...

  • @gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954

    @gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@piotrkaczkowski7728 1997 wasn't that long ago in the grand scheme of things. Even in 1997 most vehicles relied on circuitry which would be disabled by an EMP of that scale. The internet was already important to much of governance and large scale business across most of the world. Basic utility services were already highly computerised. Such an EMP would have disabled all global logistical networks. That means no reliable access to food, clean water, or essential medicines. With telecommunications down worldwide governments would be crippled resulting in global anarchy. With almost no vehicles working there would be no effective policing across most of any given country and no access to medical eservices for anyone not within walking distance of a medical centre, and even there all advanced medical equipment from heart monitors to MRI machines would be non-functional. Back in 1997 there were already many thousands of commuter flights everyday in every major country on Earth, all of which were already reliant on computerised flight control and engine management system, and all such craft in the air would have fallen out of the sky to catastrophic effect with no possibility of any effective response from fire or medical services. The world already had many tens of thousands of computerised nuclear power plants all of which would have lost the ability to control their fuel rods, meaning all the active reactors would have been facing meltdown scenarios of Chernobyl proportions and worse. Thousands of deaths in one day is dramatically lowballing the figure - try many tens of thousands or a couple of hundred thousand at the low end. Tens of millions within a couple of week, hundreds of millions within a few months, and maybe a billion and change all told globally, and you are closer to a realistic figure even back in 1997.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz2514 күн бұрын

    "The thing is, you can't have it both ways. You can't be cruel to others, and then expect that your cruelty won't cause some of those people to become as cruel as you." - Just Some Guy

  • @uanime1

    @uanime1

    14 күн бұрын

    That applies equally to humans and mutants. After the EMP you'd expect the Friends of Humanity to have regiments of people who joined because all their relatives died on the same plane.

  • @killfang9659

    @killfang9659

    14 күн бұрын

    His being right streak remains in tact it seems.

  • @BrokenDiety1

    @BrokenDiety1

    14 күн бұрын

    Bastion is also correct about the threat mutants pose to humanity.

  • @killfang9659

    @killfang9659

    14 күн бұрын

    @@BrokenDiety1 Shush child the adults are talking

  • @BrokenDiety1

    @BrokenDiety1

    14 күн бұрын

    @killfang9659 could've fooled me. Might want to try looking at the world of superhumans through the eyes of a normal person without powers. It's a VERY scary place. "The Boys" does this much better IMHO.

  • @rafferdx
    @rafferdx14 күн бұрын

    "Magneto has a perfect response: ..." *cut to KZreadTV ad break* *slow claps. Well played Erik

  • @kazekamiha

    @kazekamiha

    14 күн бұрын

    Same here.

  • @adrianchatman5734

    @adrianchatman5734

    14 күн бұрын

    A villain to his core lol.😆

  • @godking
    @godking14 күн бұрын

    Shutting down electronics across would cost MILLIONS of lives not thousands

  • @GeofftheIronwolf

    @GeofftheIronwolf

    14 күн бұрын

    Came here to say this.

  • @cheyennealvis8284

    @cheyennealvis8284

    14 күн бұрын

    And he freed Omega Red

  • @theoneglorylucky3071

    @theoneglorylucky3071

    14 күн бұрын

    and you gonna let skynet win? the reason bastion hadnt won yet is explicitly magneto EMP

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    In the first day they say thousands i think

  • @uanime1

    @uanime1

    14 күн бұрын

    Also damaging the magnetosphere will kill everyone on Earth, including all the mutants Magneto was meant to be saving.

  • @QuatrinaVR
    @QuatrinaVR14 күн бұрын

    …to free Cyclops from his loyalty to the team? That literally makes no fucking sense because he would never be ‘free’ from the team.

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    But he wants him to be. That’s the point Xavier doesn’t have a realistic vision of his “children “

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    Xavier see’s Mag as a brother he never had and the shadow he literally can and has became

  • @ethrsag735

    @ethrsag735

    14 күн бұрын

    Loyalty to Xavier, not the team. Xavier was worried that he was paralleling Magneto by accidentally turning his students into grown child soldiers. This was an opportunity to give them an opportunity to do something more than just staying with the X Men and the ramifications of that unintentional indoctrination.

  • @thatonkgau5221

    @thatonkgau5221

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ethrsag735 Yeah but he already did turn his students into soldiers. Cyclops is basically Xavier's child soldier who he unintentionally groomed into fighting a mutant civil war. Scott spent his childhood training to fight for Xavier's dream being an X men is his life's purpose. That's all he knows he can't ever live a normal life.

  • @pickedceasar1216

    @pickedceasar1216

    14 күн бұрын

    @@thatonkgau5221 and like a parent he's very blind to what's actually good for his kids vs. What he thinks is best. Nobody's saying he's perfect but it's 100% understandable and relatble to a lot of parents and their kids

  • @babykosh5415
    @babykosh541514 күн бұрын

    "this is the cost of mistreating people....consequences" well said

  • @lancejac6250
    @lancejac625014 күн бұрын

    Just some guy: Magnetos people were attacked, and the world just watched. 407,300 US soldiers died 42,000 Canadians died 383,700 englishman died, Just watching

  • @Muljinn

    @Muljinn

    13 күн бұрын

    From the perspective of someone in the camps who doesn’t know any of that’s happening?

  • @lancejac6250

    @lancejac6250

    13 күн бұрын

    @@Muljinn magneto isn't in the camp anymore

  • @stevenkraft8070

    @stevenkraft8070

    9 күн бұрын

    @@Muljinn And people in the ghettos and camps knew that the allies were pushing the Germans back, though they seldom had details. It was no surprise in Occupied France and Belgium that the allies invaded on D-Day. The question the French and Belgians had was exactly where the invasion would be, when during the spring or summer it would come, and whether it would really work. It was no surprise in Poland that the Red Army was coming to drive the Germans out. The only question was exactly when that would happen.

  • @jasondphoenix
    @jasondphoenix14 күн бұрын

    Magneto removing Wolverine's adamantium? This means his healing powers are stronger then ever before. Guy gonna go feral.

  • @undeade.t7044
    @undeade.t704414 күн бұрын

    The problem is the cycle of cruelty when both sides are being cruel towards eachother all you have is an unending shitpot of hate

  • @nothing-of5yc

    @nothing-of5yc

    14 күн бұрын

    True

  • @SoulHero7

    @SoulHero7

    14 күн бұрын

    An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. And yet we continue to stab each other.

  • @nothing-of5yc

    @nothing-of5yc

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SoulHero7 good quote

  • @jamesneese7663

    @jamesneese7663

    14 күн бұрын

    So the answer is clearly....BETTER Sentinels! Next time, get all the mutants.

  • @Muljinn

    @Muljinn

    13 күн бұрын

    Ol’ Nicky Mac said it best: “If you must injure a man, destroy him utterly, lest he return in vengeance.”

  • @mp4-27d3
    @mp4-27d314 күн бұрын

    Bruv, it’s not that people are ignoring the show per se, it’s just that people don’t care anymore. It’s a Disney Marvel production, it’s not worth the time to watch on the off chance it might actually be good. Disney took a big, ropey dump all over any goodwill they had with audiences a long time ago. Stop trying to make it an “us vs. them” thing and enjoy the show.

  • @mongooseunleashed
    @mongooseunleashed14 күн бұрын

    So Magneto overreacts and Charles is manipulative? Yep, same dance they had for decades.

  • @TonkaJay

    @TonkaJay

    13 күн бұрын

    Imperfect characters.

  • @mongooseunleashed

    @mongooseunleashed

    13 күн бұрын

    @@TonkaJay They've done that for over 50 years...

  • @TonkaJay

    @TonkaJay

    13 күн бұрын

    @@mongooseunleashed people don't learn.

  • @mongooseunleashed

    @mongooseunleashed

    13 күн бұрын

    @@TonkaJay They're supposed to be in the top smartest characters in Marvel....

  • @TonkaJay

    @TonkaJay

    13 күн бұрын

    @@mongooseunleashed so is Mr. Fantastic and he's still aloof. Being smart doesn't mean making the right decisions all the time. They're still humans. They still flaw because of emotions or their hope in someone else. And then there's writers that can't think of something better to do and fall back on old ways...

  • @markmunroe-hz8rf
    @markmunroe-hz8rf14 күн бұрын

    The problem with Charles Xavier is that, while he is right about Magento own vengeful methods, he is too blinded by his own ideals to see the whole picture. That's the problem with idealists.

  • @cryo9017

    @cryo9017

    14 күн бұрын

    Fair but magneto is being a monster

  • @markmunroe-hz8rf

    @markmunroe-hz8rf

    14 күн бұрын

    @@cryo9017 true, but how'd expect him to react, knowing his character?

  • @thatonkgau5221

    @thatonkgau5221

    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah but that doesn't mean that Magneto was right either as he's committing Genocide on a global scale. Killing both humans and mutants in the process. Yeah I understand where he's coming from but when you fight fire with more fire you create a wild fire that burns everyone.

  • @manticoraus

    @manticoraus

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@markmunroe-hz8rf Honestly if he attacked his enemies or undermined those in power for the abuse of it that be fine but he never does that doesn't he decides to always make it a murder game he's always reacting like a child

  • @luchomscyfy

    @luchomscyfy

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@cryo9017True. But reality is in the middle. Sometimes you have to be a little more pragmatic.

  • @Prodighee
    @Prodighee14 күн бұрын

    So we're condemning billions of humans for the actions of a few by comparison? Yeah, I can't sympathize with any of them honestly, Magneto, professor X, Bastion, you lose the moral high ground when your actions hurt innocents.

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    In a perfect fantasy perhaps, but when have innocents not been harmed during a literal war? This is a privileged perspective, which hasn't had to deal with sacrifice.

  • @marshallthomasiii6091

    @marshallthomasiii6091

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vespyr_ That has nothing to do with privilege, that's just not tolerating hypocrisy.

  • @SoulHero7

    @SoulHero7

    14 күн бұрын

    Exactly. What we're witnessing is what happens when there's no clear cut black and white morality where one group is obviously the good guys with no real flaws, and one group is obviously the bad guys that are pure evil. And this is clearly setting up Cyclops to call everyone out on their bs and I can't wait.

  • @IncognitoActivado

    @IncognitoActivado

    13 күн бұрын

    @@marshallthomasiii6091 privilege is privilege

  • @Lobsterwithinternet

    @Lobsterwithinternet

    13 күн бұрын

    @@marshallthomasiii6091Life is hypocrisy.

  • @thatonkgau5221
    @thatonkgau522114 күн бұрын

    Even if freeing Cyclops and jean from there loyalty to Xavier's was the case. Why couldn't Xavier hand over the school to Storm or Beast? Hell even Rouge would've made a better pick then Magneto. Yeah I get Magneto is Charles best friend but he's also a genocidal mutant terriost who's tried to kill humans multiple times. Erik had way too much baggage to follow Xavier's path.

  • @maxacorn

    @maxacorn

    14 күн бұрын

    by the end of the OG show, mags has made a lot of strides to be better. remember that it was erik who made it possible for charles to live at all. at the moment when he could've united all of mutantkind into a single army and waged war against humans, he decided to save his best friend's life.

  • @TheDCbiz

    @TheDCbiz

    14 күн бұрын

    And magneto saved humans when the phalanx attacked ​@@maxacorn

  • @TheDCbiz

    @TheDCbiz

    14 күн бұрын

    Because Charles is based on hope. It's the same reason he feels mutants and humans can live in peace, hope. He hopes his basically by bond, brother magneto will carry on his dream

  • @TonkaJay

    @TonkaJay

    13 күн бұрын

    He saw the best Magneto and hoped it would help bring out the better not the worst.

  • @maxacorn

    @maxacorn

    12 күн бұрын

    @@TheDCbiz yup. It's not that he made a mistake in leaving Erik the school. It's just that the world wouldn't let him be good

  • @yashmandla1234
    @yashmandla123414 күн бұрын

    Zemo mentioned that despite things being rocky, kelly still saw the x men as allys, so i doubt he was in on it

  • @TheDCbiz

    @TheDCbiz

    14 күн бұрын

    But Kelly still ignored it due to optics. This parallels captain america wanting to be an ally but due to how it would look to the public he cant get involved. And parallels with sunspots mom, due to how she'd look in front of her weakthy benefactors/investors/friends she allows her son to be taken

  • @spinningtornado4543
    @spinningtornado454314 күн бұрын

    9:21 Rogue... Nightcrawler was literally there. He was not only present on that day but helped rescue both you and Magneto... He was even present in the aftermath to help bury the mutants who died and look after those who survived. Have you forgotten about it or-... Aaaand she's gone.

  • @uanime1
    @uanime114 күн бұрын

    Magneto: I'm going to save all mutants from Sentinels by using an EMP, even though this will kill millions including some mutants. Also Magneto: I've damaged the magnetosphere, which will kill everyone on Earth in 12 hours; including all mutants. Though I'm going to save my girlfriend and some guy I just met. How exactly is Magneto meant to be better than the Sentinels?

  • @guillesuperior

    @guillesuperior

    14 күн бұрын

    He’s not, but his reaction is something that is expected from him

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    Welcome to war. How would you suggest they fight Bastion? I fuck with Magneto here. Consequences be damned.

  • @ibannash

    @ibannash

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vespyr_ Had me at everything except "I fuck with Magneto". It's like protecting mutants (his own fucking people) be dammed right?

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ibannash Yes.

  • @SoulHero7

    @SoulHero7

    14 күн бұрын

    He's not. That's the point. He is *just as bad* but the ideal way of solving this issue (Professor X's way) has failed countless times and gotten countless innocents killed. So Magneto is thinking: "Screw doing it the right way, I'm doing it my way."

  • @aokhoinguyenang3992
    @aokhoinguyenang399214 күн бұрын

    _ As a character Magneto is very flexible: On his good days(when he try to be a good guy) he's the other side of the coin to Xavier(both ant to create a better equal world, but Magneto is more cynical); on his bad days, as much as he hate to admit it he's the other side of the coin to Graydon Creed(a bigot that want to eradicate the other side, no matter the cost to their side) _ P/S: Back story wise Magneto share more with Graydon Creed than Xavier. Both men were discriminated & mistreated by their community as a child because they were different(Graydon is a human born to mutant parents) & thus became radicalised to the cause of exterminating said community

  • @kernsanders3973
    @kernsanders397314 күн бұрын

    Rogues speech makes no sense, Nightcrawler was there at genosha

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes he was but he wasn’t awake. He was knocked unconscious the entire time after he saved the two

  • @GarionDAdkins

    @GarionDAdkins

    14 күн бұрын

    "I hated all of the killing so I'm going to go be an assistant to global genocide."

  • @kernsanders3973

    @kernsanders3973

    14 күн бұрын

    @@millasboo Regardless he was there and he was in the thick of it as you pointed out taking a hit while saving people. Rogue and Magneto would be dead if he didnt save them

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    @@GarionDAdkins No she hated all the killing in general but when her friends were killed so she could no longer be complacent

  • @Drixenol86

    @Drixenol86

    14 күн бұрын

    Victim shaming.

  • @Bluesit32
    @Bluesit3214 күн бұрын

    Yeah, no, I'm still blaming Rogue for joining Magneto. EVERYTHING ON EARTH IS GOING TO DIE. If Magneto would fix the planet after putting the Asteroid back in space, fine, but he seems intent on letting the world burn.

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    I don't blame him.

  • @Bluesit32

    @Bluesit32

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vespyr_ Really? What did the dogs do to him? The trees? Do they deserve death?

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Bluesit32 This is war, mate. You're coming from a privileged perspective. Name a war where dogs and trees didn't suffer.

  • @Bluesit32

    @Bluesit32

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vespyr_ Name a war where the ENTIRE PLANET died.

  • @forsociopoliticalstuff2629

    @forsociopoliticalstuff2629

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vespyr_the Anglo-Zanzibari war. I’m pretty sure there were no dogs in that palace, nor trees.

  • @pauljanetzke
    @pauljanetzke14 күн бұрын

    I honestly think the significance of Magneto surviving the Holocaust is lost on the modern audience.

  • @manticoraus

    @manticoraus

    14 күн бұрын

    Well for a few things one. nazis have been burned out in terms of topic validation two. well we're kind of running into the fact that jews are a people, not a talking point. I think it's ridiculous to say that Hamas is equal to the Israeli defense force, that doesn't change the fact that we're actually having to look at the fact that as a nation Israel - majority jewish and something that is made for ir part of the jewish Diaspora and identity- isn't just some promise land. it's a political entity same as any other. which means it does s*** that's kind of bad and ee kind of - well - let it But at the same time a reaction on how to fix it seems to be to let antisemitism flourish. so there isn't an actual discussion being had. Something also that I think people miss is that Magneto actually tells on himself. In this episode he says that Xavier should have seen Genosha, but if Magneto had his way they would never have gotten to the step of there being a Genosha. he would have started an international nuclear war Even after the sentinel attack people were willing to rebuild and try again. There was even help coming from humans. on the slow end. From relief volunteers, people like tilby, as well as Captain America. but that's not good enough for Magneto. it's never good enough for the outraged. So they think that if they fall back on the outrage they'll get everything they want. ignoring how not doing that got them so close before. Yet they think if fight they're gonna win forever

  • @pauljanetzke

    @pauljanetzke

    14 күн бұрын

    @@manticoraus I would add the overuse of the words NAZI and Hitler are a problem as well. Everybody seems to use one or the other when they disagree with a political point of a perceived enemy from the other side of the political spectrum. Don't want sexually explicit material in a grade school library, you must be a book burning NAZI. Don't want violent protests on a college campus, you're literally Hitler. Don't want cops held accountable for their illegal acts, you're the worst, a fascist NAZI. Everything is too polarized these days. We need to go back to being able to disagree without being disagreeable.

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@manticoraus Not to be a grammar nazi, pun unintended, but can we not get just... one period? It's all I ask.

  • @SpaceandGoats

    @SpaceandGoats

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@manticoraus I can't read this at all

  • @deandre6559

    @deandre6559

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vespyr_ Usually I'm against people pointing out grammar, but this is one of those times when it's justified.

  • @conradaster3764
    @conradaster376414 күн бұрын

    This episode made me realize that i have NEVER seen Mr Sinister fight! 😂 like not even in the comics! 😂

  • @nardopolo7407

    @nardopolo7407

    14 күн бұрын

    inferno////even has the best conclusion of sinisterfighting.

  • @Ramsey276one

    @Ramsey276one

    14 күн бұрын

    I don't suppose every comic character CAN FIGHT... XD

  • @TheRavenShadowsWolf

    @TheRavenShadowsWolf

    14 күн бұрын

    Sinister's always been more the Power Behind The Throne type. He's the strategist, Machiavellian kingmaker - who likes to pull the strings as a puppet master (He's got a god complex - and Gods don't have to fight) So he will more often let his minions do the fighting for him; or manipulate his enemies in a long game to fight themselves. That's his preferred tactics.

  • @TonkaJay

    @TonkaJay

    13 күн бұрын

    Sinister is his name more than a fighter.

  • @kypcole
    @kypcole14 күн бұрын

    "Thousands" We know you know better.

  • @nowlwane9623
    @nowlwane962314 күн бұрын

    I have difficulty believing that the Avengers, Dr. doom, and the world leaders would not be involved in saving the world. The fallout should be world shattering.

  • @a_8850
    @a_885013 күн бұрын

    Another fantastic commentary. Thanks for killin' it, JSG!

  • @bigdoubleu117
    @bigdoubleu11714 күн бұрын

    Why does nobody in the Marvel universe go for the head? Wolverine dumb as hell for catching Magneto off guard, but stabbing him in the side.

  • @-Bile-
    @-Bile-14 күн бұрын

    Woah, hold on. We were at 'magneto was right' last episode, why did we seemingly 180?

  • @cryo9017

    @cryo9017

    14 күн бұрын

    Cause he's a villain

  • @quantumvideoscz2052

    @quantumvideoscz2052

    14 күн бұрын

    He was right about some things. He was not right about committing genocide. Because genocide is wrong.

  • @uanime1

    @uanime1

    14 күн бұрын

    Because he's trying to kill everyone on Earth, including the mutants.

  • @SoulHero7

    @SoulHero7

    14 күн бұрын

    Magneto was right about *human nature*. His actions toward that nature are wrong. Understandable, but wrong. There is no contradiction here.

  • @quantumvideoscz2052

    @quantumvideoscz2052

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SoulHero7 Exactly.

  • @TheHulkbuster13
    @TheHulkbuster1314 күн бұрын

    I think 10s of millions would easily die.

  • @deimoslinvega3180

    @deimoslinvega3180

    14 күн бұрын

    They are just flatscans. They lives are worth a mere fraction of that of a mutant. That's like comparing life of a dog to a human. Mutants will always have the moral highround because their lives are simply worth more.

  • @TheDCbiz

    @TheDCbiz

    14 күн бұрын

    How did you come up with that number??? You think if a worldwide emp effected the earth for 12 hours or less in 1997, millions of people would die?

  • @TheHulkbuster13

    @TheHulkbuster13

    14 күн бұрын

    @@TheDCbiz well literally every aircraft would fall out of the sky, car crashes would occur leading to deaths as well, anyone dependent on medical terminology would die, anyone with a pacemaker would die theres countless other examples. I don't know if the numbers would match up to the attack on genosha. If it was just like the comics which seems likely, half the mutant race was in genosha with 16 million dying as a result of the attack. but the death toll could be closer than you think.

  • @TheDCbiz

    @TheDCbiz

    14 күн бұрын

    @@TheHulkbuster13 in the show it's clarified thousands not millions died in Genosha. For a world wide emp in 1997 in less than 11 hours I'm not sure there were this many planes flying back then. And there are emergency landings protocols even if planes are disabled. They can glide. The problem is speed. Planes are good at falling in style in an emergency but depending where they land and how fast they fall is more of the problem. Car crashes wouldn't be that severe because car batteries just die but can still coast do to acceleration and brake fluid would still work. But card just wouldn't be able to start. Pace makers are probably the biggest problem. Sure less people had them in 1997 but anyone currently being operated on or on life support or having pacemakers would probably die or be close to death within 11 hours

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld624214 күн бұрын

    9:26 I freakin love how that’s both a dig on up the clone situation with Jean and the dying and coming back to life shot that keeps happening in the comics. Good shit!

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_14 күн бұрын

    Bro people are thinking your title and thumbnail is a negative review on the show before even watching the video.

  • @RyanBrown2K5

    @RyanBrown2K5

    14 күн бұрын

    Standard clickbait.

  • @SpaceandGoats

    @SpaceandGoats

    14 күн бұрын

    Well thats their issue

  • @Ramsey276one

    @Ramsey276one

    14 күн бұрын

    (Reading)Skill Issue? If it's a video, YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT

  • @TheRavenShadowsWolf
    @TheRavenShadowsWolf14 күн бұрын

    How many people did Magneto kill with his attack = Anyone hooked up to live saving mechanics. [Based on JUST the amount of hospitals and sick people on the planet, that's a LOT more than "thousands"] Anyone in the midst of sugery (or a difficult birth potentially) Anyone working around heavy machinery that depends on functionality/lifting heavy objects Anyone working near or on electrical/nuclear power (knock on effect to nearby towns results in MORE deaths) Anyone in the midst of by air travel (Stranding anyone in midst of by boat, may lead to starvation...) * Apparently the entire planet... BUT his powers also affect magnetic fields and he's Omega = He SHOULD be able to set off an EMP WITHOUT fucking over the entire planet based on his own desire to SURVIVE! (Scientifically sending out a wave OVER the planet does not necessarily equate sending one THROUGH the planet - and it'd have to pass thousands of layers of sediment/magma and igneous rock that would probably ground the pulse anyway IE the planet was designed to protect itself...) * Muir Island SHOULDN'T have Shi'ar tech if Xavier JUST got back from his time with L'landra... she had to give it to him first; and Xavier would then have had to give it to forge or Moira (more likely Forge) to figure out how it'd work BEFORE Muir Island would have Shi'ar tech that would protect them from EMP affects. That is why you DON'T fuck with the time lines by trying to mangle together too many known plot points that happened at specifically DIFFERENT TIMELINES. (The writers may not have thought of that - or they have forgotten to state somewhere that this IS NOT Charles' first visit to the Shi'ar Empire - which would imply a longer relationship with L'landra to start with - and THEN it might make sense that earth would just have this new tech) ** As to Rogue; it also frees her to pursue a romance with Erik at some soon future point (which the writers seem to want to push for... for, reasons = There is a big chunk of current day adult content into cuckoldry/emasculation of a male in a relationship... that's all I'm gonna say) Maybe next season, or the next two, since Gambit is "dead" now [I still don't think he'll stay that way...] It at least puts it in the context of healing to live with whatever regrets she might ascribe in that relationship, and maybe she can temper Erik to some extent, by giving him something he wants. I don't really know. I just think there was an ulterior motive in pursuing this specific ship over the canonical marriage in the comics. = Jean is an Omega. Full stop. Cable is a mutant that like Wolverine MIGHT be powerful enough to be classed Omega ALA X-Man; but he's got the techno-virus fucking over his ability to actually BE that powerful. In Logan's case the Adamantium is a tax on his healing factor or he'd probably be pretty damned close to Omega for a regenerator. They are NOT evenly matched. The only reason Jeam might not win, is because her mind is fucked up over what she recalls about Nathan "being her son" in sharing the memories of Madeline. It ISN'T a good idea; and in the comics I don't think Magneto ever let Woverine stab him... BUT - there would be NO CONSEQUENCE as you're about to ascribe if they'd have made Wolverine pull UP. OR take the claws back out (knives do a LOT more damage coming out than going in) Erik's not capable of self-healing to the extent he'd negate that level of blood loss. So he'd be fucked. End of argument. IF they're smart and know anything about medicine, they'd make Erick manipulate the adadmantium while the claws are in him, to close over the wounds and keep the blood in; while dealing with Logan in the way he canonically did.

  • @striderreborn1467
    @striderreborn146711 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the attention to detail of Magneto’s Asteroid M being powered by broken Sentinel parts. It showed that even Magneto himself couldn’t always lift that thing around all the time. He had to somehow internally fix it first so it could float on its own.

  • @WeOnlyEatSoup
    @WeOnlyEatSoup14 күн бұрын

    I was skeptical at first on this show given it's Disney. But these reviews have gotten me so pumped and the animation is clean AF. It really reminds me of 90s Marvel vs Capcom (please do onslaught next season!)

  • @adrianchatman5734
    @adrianchatman573414 күн бұрын

    I love, love, LOVE That they're doing Fatal Attractions!! X-Men 97 is the best show on TV right now. Change my mind.

  • @positiveecho326
    @positiveecho32614 күн бұрын

    I have a huge problem with her taking off Gambit’s jacket before joining Magneto, though. She’s bound to take it off eventually (especially if Gambit doesn’t come back) but not that soon.

  • @AgusSkywalker

    @AgusSkywalker

    14 күн бұрын

    It's symbolic of her rejecting the X-Men and embracing the dark side, like she wearing her original uniform from when she worked for Mystique.

  • @HoundMonkey
    @HoundMonkey14 күн бұрын

    Oh look comments that disagree with JSG are being deleted what a surprise...

  • @Geek0ftheWeek
    @Geek0ftheWeek14 күн бұрын

    A better title for this episode would have been: The problem with Ideologies

  • @HyperMoeMan
    @HyperMoeMan14 күн бұрын

    Magento was driven to this madness.

  • @mysticalmonotreme
    @mysticalmonotreme14 күн бұрын

    I need to rewatch the scene, but I recall that Magneto remarked that he tried to walk "Xavier's path". Now I wonder if the finale will see if Xavier will walk Magneto's path and go down the route of extreme measure. Those familiar with the comics will remember that Xavier turned Magneto into a mental vegetable in "Fatal Attractions". Having repressed anger of his own, watching his own dream fail, and getting "the reason you suck speech" from his students and old friend, I can see his succumb to it. I could see him trying a telepathic attack, again but now tell Magneto that he needs to be put down because he is too much of a threat to be allowed to roam free. If X-Men '97 goes down this road, I can see Onslaught as a possibility.

  • @keithedwards499
    @keithedwards49912 күн бұрын

    I don't believe magneto should of condemned the entire planet. But holy fuck he was so right. They try for peace only to continue to be met with hatred that it blows my mind .

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz2514 күн бұрын

    I wonder what Wolverine will look like in the next episode? I don't believe I'm ready for it.

  • @longtsun8286

    @longtsun8286

    14 күн бұрын

    This is an adaptation of a story from the late 1990s, which I read. Without the adamantium to suppress his mutation, Wolverine devolved into a mindless beast, and was consistently portrayed as a mindless beast until he got the adamantium back. The story SUCKED.

  • @mongooseunleashed

    @mongooseunleashed

    14 күн бұрын

    Well Wolverine gets traumatized, that's for sure.

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@longtsun8286 Let's hope they skip this part. I honestly wouldn't mind if they just, decided to ignore it.

  • @Bluesit32

    @Bluesit32

    14 күн бұрын

    @@longtsun8286 No, that happens after Genesis (Cable's evil son) tries to bond adamantium back on to Wolverine. The first thing that occurs is a power burn out. Wolverine's healing is at human levels. He was also not consistently played as a mindless beast. He was slowly gaining his humanity back. Talking, drinking beer, riding his motorcycle...all that.

  • @MrCarlosj0

    @MrCarlosj0

    10 күн бұрын

    If they keep with the comics Wolverine's healing factor will be weakened because of how much his body have to be repaired to the point every wound he takes he starts bleeding out. Logan doesn't go feral until Genesis tries to rebond wolverine with admantium that are the remains of Cyber. Cyber's organics were eaten by mutant beetles. Crazy shit came out of issues 75-100.

  • @Jrockk999
    @Jrockk99914 күн бұрын

    I find it hilarious with the idea that the people who have a problem with Magneto, supposedly have no issue with the attack on Genosha. The short answer is they do, but with the responses being severe for both humans and mutants it gets lost in the back ground as just noise to those watching the show. The long answer is simple: If you commit evil to combat a greater evil, evil still wins. Same issues that people have with most modern comics not showing our "Super heroes" being actual heroes is present here. The X-Men already straddled a line between heroes/terrorists/traitors with how far Xaiver and the rest of the X-Men could be willing to go to protect both mutant and human life. The entire message that Xaiver has tried to instill in his students is to do the right thing even when it's hard and the whole world is against you. Rogue attacking government facilities to look for those behind Genosha, while understandable just remind people that one mutant with great abilities can't be stopped by soldiers. Magento disrupting the planet's magnetic field would absolutely destroy and kill millions of people. And no every animal on this planet doesn't understand the concept to treat others well. Humans, apes, dolphins and some other mammals have this understanding. But the rest of the animal kingdom has no concept of revenge, decency or even pride of oneself. The most basic thing that all animals do have is fight or flight, and the only time that fight typically wins that contest is with the possibility of being eaten. Even prideful animals like gorillas and lions will back down from a fight once they know their rival is going to beat them. To quote a paleontologist: "Pride is not a dinosaur trait, living to fight another day is."

  • @WretchinWilson
    @WretchinWilson14 күн бұрын

    Beau DeMayo said that some extra credit homework for the finale will be the Star Trek: TNG Episode "Cause and Effect." I'm thinking Bishop or Cable ... time travel shenanigans with and unbreakable loop! That references what Cable said about Genosha, but now that Professor X is back, perhaps the loop can be broken... One Man's Worth...

  • @Drixenol86

    @Drixenol86

    14 күн бұрын

    Is that the one where the enterprise is destroyed in a continuous loop or the one with an altertnate reality where Tasha Yarr is still alive?

  • @nardopolo7407

    @nardopolo7407

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Drixenol86 no, its the one where they encounter a ship stuck in a time loop and every time they try to help they all die till they try Rikers method cause of the poker game

  • @Drixenol86

    @Drixenol86

    14 күн бұрын

    @@nardopolo7407 if the finale’s going to go with this, it’s gonna piss off alotta people. People who were traumatized by the Genosha massacre in episode 5, the Gambit fans, the fans that were expecting Gambit to come back as a horseman and especially the fans that want Onslaught. This is gonna be one big PR disaster.

  • @nardopolo7407

    @nardopolo7407

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Drixenol86 well the episode involved the enterprise taking a direct approach time loop causes them to all die then when they nudge it slightly to evoke something and leave eveyr one lives. the tasha yar episode was much earlier in the shows run like late season 1 or very early season 2 cause and effect is season like season 5

  • @louisblackforester
    @louisblackforester14 күн бұрын

    Happy 80th Birthday George. We Love you !

  • @bigdoubleu117
    @bigdoubleu11714 күн бұрын

    Nah, you were too nice on this episode. It was dumb as hell. I'd actually agree more with Thorias on this one.

  • @niccoloproia3678
    @niccoloproia367814 күн бұрын

    I don't understand the point JSG makes about Magneto having the power to destroy Earth's magnetic field but never wanting to use it until this point...so? So the USA as any other nation in the world should just let him be free and hope this notorious criminal one day doesn't wake up and say "You know what? Fuck the planet"? Magneto as any other mutant with extremely dangerous powers should be at least monitored. What if Mystique or Morph take the role of the USA president and declare war against another state? What if Storm decides to use her powers to destroy a city? What about Jean Grey? If you're a civilian in the Marvel universe you have all the right to fear omega level mutants, it's not a right or left wing thing is that you know that there are some people in your world (in Magneto's case even deranged ones) that are born with an extremely destructive power. P.S. Rogue saying to the others they "weren't there" with Nightcrawler in the group is one of the funniest shits i've ever seen. Also Morph was in the team for something like 15 minutes? When Episode 1 happened i thought it was pretty clear Morph was part of the team for a long time. He built his relationship with Wolverine in that period. We as spectators perceive it like 2 episodes cause we start the show with the recruitment of Jubilee, when the group was formed a long time ago. Rogue basically spoke like she was a spectator and not an actual character in that universe

  • @cynblade7422

    @cynblade7422

    14 күн бұрын

    Exactly. That wasn't Rogue speaking, that was the writer...who consequently didn't fully understand the story, or was too lazy/incompetent to realize how she sounded.

  • @FlawedCoil82
    @FlawedCoil8214 күн бұрын

    I was so disappointed in this episode. They are speed running through too many key storylines. They took one of the most prominent storylines of the 90s and made it look like this was taking place in the 70s with the terrible decision to regress them back into the old uniforms (the 90s uniforms are crucial to my enjoyment of the X-Men). I wanted “X-Men ‘97” to go on for several seasons, not be changed in a bait & switch to “X-Men ‘79”. This was not the way I ever wanted to see “Fatal Attractions” be brought onto the screen. I don’t want this show becoming like Claremont’s highly disappointing “X-Men Forever” where it is just one relentlessly shocking tragedy or calamity after another to rapidly destroy the team. “Operation: Zero Tolerance” still had plenty of meat left on the bone to allow the X-Men to stay busy. I didn’t buy Rogue’s betrayal at all (there is no way she was ready to hurt Nightcrawler if he tried to oppose her). They have faced FAR greater threats in the past. But by them constantly making dumb decisions, they keep getting their asses handed to them and are looking outright incompetent.

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah they just got done introducing Zero Tolerance, I really don't understand why they jumped into Fatal Attractions right off the bat. Feels so extremely rushed.

  • @jameljenks2584
    @jameljenks258414 күн бұрын

    1. Magneto really did try. Genosha was just too much. What he is doing wrong but understandable. 2. I think we're getting outright roster changes. Mainly cause some of these ppl are going to die or leave. 3. Charles (God bless him) is trying his best to fix a situation he wasn't present for

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager14 күн бұрын

    4:20 No, it doesn't make his actions understandable PURELY because he's dooming mutants too. That is so painfully contrived. If he had a plan to wipe out humanity and then repopulate the planet with mutants or go live on his asteroid or something, fine. But this was just ridiculous.

  • @millasboo

    @millasboo

    14 күн бұрын

    Wrong actually he made asteroid M to literally bring the mutants with him. It also does make sense. As his entire set up in the first few episodes was he wanted to give the humans a chance he wanted so badly to not go back by trying it Xavier’s way out of respect, the minute they crossed him and his valid but very bad warning he nuked it. Like i don’t understand how you don’t see that as i don’t think what he did was right but his global approach was warranted as he didn’t care about humans anymore nobody needs to live but mutants now that’s his character culminating & you missed the later sentence as JSG basically said he doesn’t realize that he’s become the next Hit--ler. He’s so caught up in his valid but blinding anger that he’s not just “flipping the table” he’s nuking the whole house the table was in. It was even more terrifying for him in the genosha genocide as he was now in a reverse role from his mother/father(depends on the comic) as his parent said those exact words but didn’t make it , he said those exact words but couldn’t save the child he once was. He saw a child not just pass gracefully but in agony as his eyes were vaporized out of his skull

  • @uanime1

    @uanime1

    14 күн бұрын

    @@millasboo How are the mutants going to get to Asteroid M when all means of communication and transport don't work?

  • @xanderfoxjsc
    @xanderfoxjsc14 күн бұрын

    I think a good number of people miss the point that there is not a single villain here, but several. Bastion, Magneto, Sinister, and everyone who knew what Bastion was going to do and didn't stop him. A lot of people are smugly saying "See this is Woke" but are wrong, if the story was Woke Magento would be the hero, but he isn't, methodology matters. As wrong as Xavier is for not recognizing when talking won't work Magneto is still the villain. An understandable motivation for an evil act doesn't change the fact it's evil. People focused on a political narrative believe morality depends on why you do something instead of what you do. This applies to both extremes. I very much like X-Men 97 because it's a group of heroes so the hard work that is doing the right thing when you have plenty of reasons not too. And writers shouldn't be afraid of having heroes make mistakes or lose thier way. The right thing to do is rarely the easy thing to do. The X-Men are Super Heroes, Super Heroes do their best to protect everyone especially when it's hard because it's right.

  • @wanderingthedesert5599

    @wanderingthedesert5599

    14 күн бұрын

    I think that the problem is Magneto is the sympathetic villain because he didn't start off evil, but rather could not maintain faith, especially after seeing what was done to Genosha and feeling responsible for all of the death and destruction that occurred. This isn't like Apocalypse who harbors a genuine and abiding hatred of not just normal humans, but mutants as well.

  • @xanderfoxjsc

    @xanderfoxjsc

    14 күн бұрын

    @@wanderingthedesert5599 Well a reason for being blind to the truth still results in not being able to see.

  • @uanime1

    @uanime1

    14 күн бұрын

    "Bastion, Magneto, Sinister, and everyone who knew what Bastion was going to do and didn't stop him." Because it benefits them. Or they were turned into Prime Sentinels. "if the story was Woke Magento would be the hero, but he isn't, methodology matters." Well last episode they did keep talking about how he was right. "People focused on a political narrative believe morality depends on why you do something instead of what you do." Both are important. Good intentions do not outweigh bad outcomes. "I very much like X-Men 97 because it's a group of heroes so the hard work that is doing the right thing when you have plenty of reasons not too." The problem is that in this show they either stop Magneto or everyone on Earth dies. So they don't have any other choice. "And writers shouldn't be afraid of having heroes make mistakes or lose thier way." However there needs to be logical reasons to do this. Rogue siding with Magneto because she doesn't want more deaths doesn't make any sense since Mangneto caused millions of deaths and is about to wipe out everyone on Earth. "The X-Men are Super Heroes, Super Heroes do their best to protect everyone especially when it's hard because it's right." The problem is that as the comics go on everyone decides to give up on living with humans and instead keep trying to form their own mutant ethanostate.

  • @cynblade7422

    @cynblade7422

    14 күн бұрын

    For what it's worth, you measure so-called Wokeness - or any POV - in story telling not by how the story treats what the character is doing, not by what normal people would think is objectively wrong. So, if the story is treating what Magneto did as justified (not just understandable) because oppression or whatever, then one might be jsutified in calling it Woke. Not saying the story did that here, but I thought it'd be worth discussing ho to identify these things.

  • @xanderfoxjsc

    @xanderfoxjsc

    14 күн бұрын

    @@cynblade7422 the story isn't Woke because Magneto is not depicted as justified. When people complain about "Wokeness" it's because story presents anything the oppressed do as not just understandable but justified. Even when what they do is counter to thier stated goals. Magneto's action while understandable in the end don't make sense. Destroying the Earth will essential doom all life on Earth. At best the surviving mutants will be taken in by some alien race and live the rest of thier lives knowing humanity will eventually go quietly extincted. It's the same with MCU Thanos, while the goal of bringing balance sounds good his methodology won't achieve his goal. Randomly deleting half of all life caused trillions of collateral deaths, plunged stable words into chaos and did nothing to improve the state of words already in chaos. Magneto, as with a lot of villains, is someone you can understand the why off what he did while still knowing it was wrong

  • @charlesfaulknerjr7841
    @charlesfaulknerjr784114 күн бұрын

    Woooooooo

  • @dragonwatter
    @dragonwatter14 күн бұрын

    first off i have to say. i wounder if it was the techno oraginic viruse that kept cabel from stoping genosha. The sad part of this episodes in my opion is the people out their chearing on magneto, their are to many people out their that don't see magneto as a villan, but as the hero the mutants needs. honestly where they are neither xavier or magneto are usefull at this point. xaviers idealsm got them where they are and magneto hate and pain are goeing to destroy the world.

  • @howlingwolffang2221
    @howlingwolffang222114 күн бұрын

    You get what you pay for, magneto was pushed to this point

  • @SiriuslyBlack7
    @SiriuslyBlack714 күн бұрын

    There were 16 million casualties in Genosha during the New X-men, "E is for Extinction" Event.

  • @maxacorn
    @maxacorn14 күн бұрын

    its a shame that folks don't seem to remember that mags was a better person by the end of the OG series. by that point, he had saved charles' life on more than one occasion, tried to just stay away from humans with astroid M only for one of his own to betray and nearly kill him, saved the world from being nuked to death by that same traitor, came out of self exile to save the world from the phalanx invasion, saved his son quicksilver from that same invasion, stopped apocolypse from committing universal genocide, and made it possible for charles to live in the series finale. mags wasn't a hero full on at that point but he was far less the monster he was in season 1 of the OG show. charles was right in wanting to believe that mags could lead the x-men, and mags was on his way to being the good man charles always knew he could be. the world just didn't let him be good. so this is magneto just having enough of everyone's shit. he was like "i tried. god in heaven, i tried but they wouldn't let me. so you know what? if i'm gonna be a monster, i'll show them just how big of a monster i can be." context. its whats for dinner.

  • @NinjaGateStudios

    @NinjaGateStudios

    14 күн бұрын

    The problem is the relapse. He tried, but ultimately his weakness is his hatred. He's always wanted a reason to subjugate or flat out destroy humanity and he jumps at the first opportunity to do so when it presents itself. He doesn't commit himself to doing the hard work. As soon as he encounters a roadblock, he goes straight to genocidal tendencies.

  • @KamiAnimeS1
    @KamiAnimeS113 күн бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥 episode

  • @Demigod_3scrub
    @Demigod_3scrub14 күн бұрын

    This was a great, spot on analysis of how Magnus has always been..

  • @wanderingthedesert5599
    @wanderingthedesert559914 күн бұрын

    So, Gambit is "dead", Wolverine has the admantium sucked right out of him, and no one knows where Archangel is..... All I'm going to say is that Big Blue Guy that Cable's fighting in the intro has got some decisions to make regarding his Horseman of Death.

  • @spinningtornado4543

    @spinningtornado4543

    14 күн бұрын

    Seeing how much Angel has failed in Apocalypse's first go with his Horsemen (which already happened in this show), my best guess is that he'll just switch labels around.

  • @wanderingthedesert5599

    @wanderingthedesert5599

    14 күн бұрын

    @@spinningtornado4543 I'll be honest, my preference for Warren as Death is largely shaped by the fact that he is the original, and the 1980's X-Factor was excellent. The latter comics, both of which happened in the 2000s (I think) didn't have the same shock for me. I could forgive Wolverine becoming Death, but then when they started doing it with Gambit a few years later..... it felt as if the creative bankruptcy that started in the 90s reached fever pitch when ideas are recycled no less than a few years later. I think I tapped out around the mid-2000s.

  • @spinningtornado4543

    @spinningtornado4543

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@wanderingthedesert5599 It's more than fair. I'd have Archangel back as the Horseman of Death, Wolverine as the Horseman of War and Gambit as the Horseman of Pestilence (The Horseman of Famine is still an open position for now). Each of these represents key life moments for the characters: Archangel was present on the Day Mutantkind faced near extinction'. Wolverine is a war veteran for too many of them. Gambit has officially died yet he raises again as seemingly a corpse amongst the living, something which will spread diseases.

  • @tentonmotto6779
    @tentonmotto677914 күн бұрын

    Who are the far right reviewers that Just Some Guy responds to? Despite the show's popularity I am yet to see anyone actually arguing for human supremacism. There are sarcastic circlejerkers and trolls, and there most likely are some racists badmouthing the show from a corner. But Just Some Guy makes it look like half the internet wants Bastion, Trask and FoH to win.

  • @SoulHero7

    @SoulHero7

    14 күн бұрын

    He's calling out extremists that would support the bad guys that do exist in real life, but not only are they small, weak, and pathethic, this is not the time to give them the validation they want. He should just focus on reviewing '97 and its themes and let the show do its job, because it's clearly doing its job right.

  • @tentonmotto6779

    @tentonmotto6779

    13 күн бұрын

    @@SoulHero7 What's ironic is that most of the far right extremists I've seen talking about the series actually identify with mutants and Magneto. They view themselves as embattled minority, "a next step in evolution" and see their opponents as powerful oppressors who want them gone. Which is part of the reason why it is hard to find anyone rooting for human supremacists in X-Men.

  • @TonkaJay
    @TonkaJay13 күн бұрын

    They might have been mannequins with hair...or maybe that was their idea. Yeah. Probably shouldn’t have bother doing that.

  • @rockmanafb
    @rockmanafb12 күн бұрын

    Morph smash!

  • @ibannash
    @ibannash14 күн бұрын

    Best take on this episode ive seen thus far. Its luke people forgot messing with the environment will indiscriminately kill everyone, mutants included.

  • @KenBen0bi
    @KenBen0bi13 күн бұрын

    Imma say right now: It was Sinister’s sleeper code that stopped Cable from stopping the massacre of Genosha. Either that or another malevolent entity/being at play we will meet in, pardon the pun, the future.

  • @Ravensgale
    @Ravensgale14 күн бұрын

    14:24 I was glad they had that happen because in the kid's show and the movies they always had him do something stupid like propel him away or hold him in place. Glad this show showed some teeth here.

  • @spinningtornado4543

    @spinningtornado4543

    14 күн бұрын

    Magneto in the movies made metal bars go in and out of Wolverine's body (this was before Weapon X), left them inside of him as a way to incapacitate him then sent him off to drown in a river.

  • @burnblue
    @burnblue14 күн бұрын

    Magneto didn't cause any of this by being in charge of the mansion, why does the "what did you think would happen" keep coming? He was being good, they blew up Genosha, they loosed Prime Sentinels.

  • @sorooshisonfire7601
    @sorooshisonfire760114 күн бұрын

    I was waiting eagerly for this video. Now I have to wait again for the rings of power teaser video. I hope not for long

  • @NightFoxx99
    @NightFoxx9914 күн бұрын

    You really make me wanna see this show

  • @scasimir1000
    @scasimir10005 күн бұрын

    13:44 I don't know how I feel about this, not the fact of moving stabbing magneto but there's been situations where magneto told wolverine and multiple people he can smell metals, sense them. So the fact that moving got this jump on them it's a little bit not really in my ballpark but

  • @batboy9997
    @batboy999714 күн бұрын

    Magneto is a misguided villain who thinks he's righteous. He's not a hero.

  • @ajmcdonagh7730
    @ajmcdonagh773014 күн бұрын

    Pity no one watched this didn’t even chart on Nielsen

  • @manticoraus
    @manticoraus14 күн бұрын

    A few corrections no not all the nations of the world were in on it. Explicitly Kelly was stymying the full rollout of operation 0 tolerance Second amongst the people assembled were Kurt Wagner who was most certainly at genosha and was not agreeing with Magneto 3rd We see what the or else for Xavier was if Magneto would not see reason. he would simply take away his autonomy and force him to act in such a way he needed. 4th Plenty of people have things to say about the violence in genocia. in particular how it seemed odd that nothing was good enough for the x men. Not carrying water for them in the press. not admitted meager but still existent support Not even a confession plus I want to kill myself was enough not to be worth their scorn But in addition to all of that we were trying to do a wait and see how everything was going to shake out Because we there was a lot of question marks on who was actually dead and what the consequences would be and that was going to be next episode we found out and for the most part we're hoping things would turn out well this ignores the fact that while yes there were elements in authority that were backing this there were also elements in authority building a case against it. You know Captain America who was actually ahead of the game. Even was willing to cooperate even though the person in front of him was acting incredibly volatile and inherently hostile in her threatening posture the entire time. by the way that also describes magnito in fact this is the problem Inherent in everything is a constant sense of aggression do what I want or else I will hurt you and I have the power to do so and it's only my superiority that makes it so that you get to do what I tell you Much like yes this can radicalize someone as a result it also means the minority can cause a crackdown as a result It seems the full story with regards to Bastion was he was going to offer them anti mutant technology that they could control and act as a check against genocia if the mutants decided to both organize and get powerful. you don't get a nation with a noted military hawk/xterrorist and elect him leader and not eventually get people thinking you know what we need to build up some sort of defense initiative for this or a mutual protection pact. Nato =/= oppression The f*** up is that Bastion jumped the gun to the objection of both the nazi and Doctor doom as well as Valerie Cooper. Who herself who said she did not know about the att6 and considering the fact that she was injured during it while on the site I'm gonna go with the idea that that just wasn't for show. more importantly she was so sorry for what had happened she was willing to release Magneto. More importantly this is out of proportion. If Magneto always has this power then he could very well use a lesser demonstration of it for the protection and defense of his people and the attack of their enemies. he's destroying everyone and yes this is out of proportion this has absolutely no victory condition for anyone And finally I have no idea why the hell Magneto is alive and bash kept him in the loop. No really that part makes less than 0 cents

  • @manticoraus

    @manticoraus

    14 күн бұрын

    Finally that is a ridiculous low ball for destroying the ongoing infrastructure of global power even in the late 90s example pacemakers I'm sorry but that's the problem here Magneto's actions are so utterly out of proportion so devastating that nothing can justify them so any sense of justification in a sense that this is a reasonable course of action or this is Direct consequences of anyone's action even when they were taking action just not immediate action or satisfactory action and we're open to being spoken with or compromise or even letting people act different from them The x men have been given quite a lot of ropeYes you pointed out how Charles has hanged himself but what about everyone else Millions is a guarantee of who's died and are going to continue to die without any riots or targeted hate mobs And this is why people feel as if it's justified because in order to get to this point we have to either lowball softball or a vocal sense of forget what you just know in order to make some sort of parity between Magneto and Xavier particularly as if you go to war as Magneto and those who might fan boy him claim all the problems you have with Xavier do not go away You still have the paternalism you still have the my way or the highway you still have the idealism or at the very least a person who's got an idea in their head and means of conduct and are absolutely married to it with almost no sense of compromise or too little and are willing to play with other people's lives to do it Finally there's the sense of validating outrage in particular by making it so that if someone is hurt that no one under similar circumstances can ever gain say them this is particularly bad in the case of the brother and sister pair of rogue and Kurt No I don't think that it's terrible And you did point out stuff that I didn't miss or not appreciate But the problem is that there's only so much that I can value meat loaf perspective because of what you point out this man is looking for an excuse he's not committed to peace he is eager to externalize his own agony all he needs is an excuse And it's clear that again Kelly does not want there to be a war he just wants to maintain a monopoly of force or at least some parody of power against a man who's proven time and again that he will use force in order to threaten the little or undermine those in power or individuals Xavier is willing to get people the last benefit of the doubt because he can basically always resort to plan b which is make you do what I want f****** anyway which by the way is such a powerful plan b it's risky to make it plan a so it's understandable why he acts the way he does

  • @MisteRRYouTuby
    @MisteRRYouTuby14 күн бұрын

    So, JSG, enjoying this series?

  • @joellim7521
    @joellim752114 күн бұрын

    why didn't he make storm the leader then?

  • @1homelander179
    @1homelander17914 күн бұрын

    I don’t like how they handled Magneto. Mostly because there’s no such think in real life that the opressed causes LARGE destruction in revenge. In comparison Magneto should just destroy a city compared to Bastion’s global genocide cause the opressor’s atrocities always surpasses the opressed’s 1 to a 100.

  • @MegaOscan
    @MegaOscan13 күн бұрын

    Yeah Onslaught seems very likely for next season, but I also think that Gambit and Wolverine will become Horsemen Of Apocalypse.

  • @johnathan2321
    @johnathan232113 күн бұрын

    In my opinion (don't ask people to agree with it) I don't think someone working for Disney should be running an only fans (when did a personal life need to become so public). I cannot deny that Beau DeMayo knocked this season out of the park. Wrote a good story that stuck the landing. My least favorite episode was the Mojo-verse one and Life/Death was too abbreviated for it's own good, but this season was pretty dope.

  • @alexanderwsm6296
    @alexanderwsm629614 күн бұрын

    Can anyone explain to me how Magneto's actions are somehow Xavier's fault? I mean, imagine if he didn't write Magneto into becoming the leader of X-men. What exactly would that change? I can agree that Xavier is in denial by trying to reason with Magneto and Kelly but what else he can do?

  • @timothymoss5007
    @timothymoss500714 күн бұрын

    I have more of an issue with Rogue referring to Morph as "them" than I do her switching sides. It's just stupid.

  • @ottawamonsterpocalypse7729
    @ottawamonsterpocalypse772913 күн бұрын

    Mistreating the "other" is common to every ideology mankind has ever come up with and is a big part of the problem with group identity, that sooner (usually sooner) or later the group dehumanizes whoever is not in the group. Magneto to me, has always been the reflection of the average human. When things go well, he's pretty reasonable. When things aren't going well in his life, he mass blames anyone he sees as sharing similarities with those who wronged him, ie: everyone who is not a mutant in this case because "mutant" is his in-group. I'll probably give this series a watch when it shows up on a streaming service I have access to.

  • @Drixenol86
    @Drixenol8614 күн бұрын

    I went back to watching the original show to remind myself why I loved it. Mature writing. Something the new show lacks. Only its visuals are mature but the writing comes off as juvenile. Like a child wrote it.

  • @saloz9483
    @saloz948314 күн бұрын

    I call bullshit that more people died in genosha than this attack. Mags attack effected the WHOLE planet and genosha was basically just a state. Mags attack would've effected every hospital on the planet killing people in the ICU and anyone else hooked up to a machine so infants to the elderly are dead. I think a good amount of people forget mag is a villain as iv seen some in support of his action. I understand why he did it but he is no different than the monsters he hates. I did like the touch of baston crying for his mom showing that he does have love for his family and is not a villain that was just using everyone. If I had one negative about this episode it would be rogue and sunspot joining mag felt to fast and seem to only happen because the writers wanted the x-men to have more people to fight than just dog piling on mag. I mean dont they realize that mag killed a bunch of innocent people including mutants. I also was so into the episode that I did not realize that rogue was wearing gambits jacket. You also mention those who flat out hate the show and to be honest I have yet to run into any of these people. Even some that I watch on youtube seem to like the show.

  • @richardhalligan7900
    @richardhalligan79007 күн бұрын

    Got to give credit, they had the balls to have Magneto rip out the metal from Wolverine's body in this cartoon, i know back in the 90s they wouldnt do this. I had a funny feeling when Cyclops split the team in to Blue and Gold and Blue team were going after Magneto. I was thinking...wait a minute this storyline looks familiar. Its a shame that the teams were not like the comics Blue: Cyclops, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit, Beast, Psylocke and Jubilee Gold: Storm, Jean, Bishop, Iceman, Archangel, and Colossus. (Plus i would add Nightcrawler to this team)

  • @Yoda_Saint_Cloud
    @Yoda_Saint_Cloud14 күн бұрын

    Who are these people you keep saying are anti mutant? Do you mean in universe or in the real world?

  • @Civil_Maniac

    @Civil_Maniac

    14 күн бұрын

    JSG gets really fixated on trolls and political extremists. He’s a great reviewer but he has a lot of hatred towards the Trump crowd (evangelicals especially, but he always stops short of calling them out) and he doesn’t seem to know how to brush off really bad takes. I bet there are people who purposely make him mad because he reacts so easily. Getting called out in a video like this would give a sadist exactly what they want

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager14 күн бұрын

    How is Cable's arm and gun still functional with all electronics broken?

  • @Geek0ftheWeek

    @Geek0ftheWeek

    14 күн бұрын

    It's techno-organic not machined metal like Forge's leg. Think biological nanites that use the body to function like circuits. Or in simpler terms "comic book logic".

  • @TheDCbiz
    @TheDCbiz14 күн бұрын

    The morph comment was called for and not petty. Rogue is enforcing the idea that magento asks, how many if the xmen must die to acheive xaviers dream of tolerance? Rogue names those who were thought to uave already been dead or sacrificed aka jean and morph. She couldve mentioned storm too if she wanted who the team thought she lost her powers forever.

  • @joellim7521
    @joellim752114 күн бұрын

    come on.. that morph line was funny.. because it's so meta..

  • @danguillou713
    @danguillou71314 күн бұрын

    Xavier always was bad at giving or respecting agency in his students.

  • @charliedulin
    @charliedulin14 күн бұрын

    Yeah Onslaught was my first thought too.

  • @fusionspace175
    @fusionspace17513 күн бұрын

    It ought to be noted that Colossus DID go with the acolytes to the satellite, but he had not completely abandoned the X Men. He was on guard duty and allowed the X team to teleport in and didn't report it, by cleverly answering that he saw no trouble on earth when asked. he didn't want to outright lie to his new allies, either. He was more in the middle, and I expect Rogue to do something similar to act as a helper behind enemy lines. Colossus would eventually go on to join Excalibur after a short while. Oh, and I doubt the wigs were a mistake, more a choice made to make the display cases look better. Wigs aren't expensive, and they went to the trouble of mounting them to be seen.

  • @AgusSkywalker
    @AgusSkywalker14 күн бұрын

    I don't understand why everyone acts like all of this is the result of Xavier leaving Magneto in charge of the X-Men. Even with Cyclops leading the X-Men, Bastion would have executed his plans the same way he did, and Magneto may have launched his EMP the same way he did. In fact it's possible things would be even worse since the X-Men wouldn't have been invited to Genosha (the main point of this was making Magneto ruler) so Gambit and Rogue wouldn't be there to destroy the Mastermold.

  • @SoulHero7

    @SoulHero7

    14 күн бұрын

    Oh, there are multiple things that caused this situation. But putting someone in charge that is looking for an excuse to kill humanity is usually a dumb move *regardless* of the circumstance.

  • @marcelosilveira2276
    @marcelosilveira227613 күн бұрын

    believe it or not, telling people that if they stop oppressing someone, they will become the oppressed, IS the same as telling them to oppress harder and destroy that group... it actually sounds quite obvious to me that if you tell someone "hey, if you do the right thing and act like a descent person, YOU will become the victim", that you are giving them incentives to be even worse than they already are...

  • @UGSLive
    @UGSLive14 күн бұрын

    Glad you caught the Xavier/Kelly conversation. Seriously?! Xavier like I voted for you lol. I will say idk how come Magneto didn't prioritize Bastion and Sinister since regardless of what the U.N. felt those 2 are the ones that did the deed. The EMP to nuke all the Sentinels was fine but outside story purposes Bastion literally had his way with Magneto with no safe word 👀

  • @Synlidwirh
    @Synlidwirh14 күн бұрын

    I am not going to lie, I was expecting this to degrade over time.... or jump off and try to be like the proud family or otherr reboots that 'continue'... and it hasn't. I agree some of the things aren't great reasoning wise but if they can keep this quality season 2 may be great.

  • @professorlogos5459
    @professorlogos545914 күн бұрын

    I know that Magneto ripping out the adamantium is from the comics, and if Wolverine had more of a character arc in this series, it would be good writing. But I personally just don’t like it. I hated when it happened in the comics and I hated it more seeing it animation last week. Something can be good writing and still be something I just don’t like.

  • @rammisalami
    @rammisalami14 күн бұрын

    12:39 worst ad placement everrrrrr. Screw you KZread!!!!

  • @stonekidman2306
    @stonekidman230614 күн бұрын

    Feels like they’re quickly heading to a reboot. This would’ve been three seasons worth of story in the 90s but they went to hurry up to do onslaught.

  • @NoWayJose24
    @NoWayJose2414 күн бұрын

    Imagine how painful that was for Wolverine.

  • @hitekalchemy1105
    @hitekalchemy110514 күн бұрын

    I thought this was going to be a meta commentary on the show in general and not a review of an episode. I'm not supporting this show. If you want to watch pirate. Don't give money to people who hate you.

  • @achaudhari101

    @achaudhari101

    14 күн бұрын

    You’re not paying attention.

  • @hitekalchemy1105

    @hitekalchemy1105

    14 күн бұрын

    @@achaudhari101 Probably. What should I have paid attention to?

  • @Brandonweifu

    @Brandonweifu

    14 күн бұрын

    Bye then

  • @achaudhari101

    @achaudhari101

    14 күн бұрын

    @hitekalchemy1105 He’s always reviewed episodes of shows, not just the show overall until the season is done. He did that with Obi Wan and Rings of Power.

  • @Vespyr_

    @Vespyr_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@hitekalchemy1105 Bro watch the show ffs. I hate Disney too but you're literally missing the best X-men has been in decades. You've overshot the target here.

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one14 күн бұрын

    13:58 ... pretty sure it still hurt A LOT Q_Q

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one14 күн бұрын

    0:01 nice lines there! XD

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