Your channel is one of the best things that happened to the internet recently. I've been here since you started talking about M1 machines, and I absolutely love that you have that scientific and mathematical approach to test everything. I trust a lot your information and I feel that this commitment to the truth is something hard to find

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@joshkoshy

6 күн бұрын

Very true

@HanSolo__

5 күн бұрын

@@AZisk All cool but why Mac, man?

@dheeraj3945

4 күн бұрын

Seconding the statement

@AnotherDay-ce6th

4 күн бұрын

All he's doing just web coding. Calm down kiddo 🤣

Amazing video! Great work explaining the issues with the Book4 Edge and it's power modes, as well as the coil whine issue.

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

Thanks! Yep, the Surface is definitely a bit more stable and consistent than the Book4.

@RealEverythingComputers

6 күн бұрын

Which one is better in your opinion, the Apple M chip lineup - what's frequently reviewed and compared on the MaxTech channel, or the Snapdragon X Elite?

@ranjitmandal1612

6 күн бұрын

🙏

@ranjitmandal1612

6 күн бұрын

​@@RealEverythingComputersapple M series is much more mature

@lupifa4395

5 күн бұрын

​@@AZisk About the plugged/unplugged issue, you might want to check in the power options (8:07, controle panel) : change plan settings / advanced power settings / Processor power management, the max state on battery might be below 100%. Even worse, there is sometimes a third power settings : on my xps, I have My Dell and a thermal mode (cool, optimized, ultra perf, silence : processor and ventilator speed)

It feels like Samsung nerfed their machine to make it run longer on battery. Which is unfortunate, because a lot of people will buy them and decide they're rubbish and never go back to an Arm machine again. When my Lenovo arrives, first thing I'll be doing is checking performance and power management

@flyinginthedark6188

6 күн бұрын

They set it up as if it was an Intel CPU. Let's see how much battery life they got in exchange.

@marcgtsr

6 күн бұрын

Or maybe the opposite as they like the batter and don't notice the lack of performance. The Phawx video shows the performance and battery better then any other, you could Mach with an and chip and you could use the snapdragon battery in 1h. There are other tests that show that in a long stress test these chips go to 2.5ghz. Not samsung ,just any laptop with these chips would do it, that's how they get these batte live. These chips could destroy the battery in minutes if allowed to.

@CaptainToadUK

6 күн бұрын

@@flyinginthedark6188 you might be right. Looks like they set it to run slower on battery and normal when plugged in. Seems a missed opportunity, though given other machines are able to get the performance both plugged and unplugged with reasonable battery life

@frankwong9486

6 күн бұрын

Different approaches Like commercial HP elitebook they use low power limits and the fan never roar like hell All core benchmarks are crap compared to unlimited power limit model I prefer adjustable by user as sometimes so need more boost , sometimes I need it running silently ,however Samsung don't agree this 😂

@Litotes_89

6 күн бұрын

I don’t think his Geekbench is right. My 14 inch edge 80SKU scores higher

This is the ONLY video on which I trust... great, you are the man!

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

Wow, thanks!

@AnoNym-zi5ty

5 күн бұрын

Right, that dave2d dude praises stuff that isn't even out yet. What a shill

Thank you for the amazing explanation, and finally, straighten out some of the confusion. I most likely would by the machine for the nnpu so will be exciting to see how that plays out!

Actually very impressive results. Thank you man, you're a legend 👏

Excellent explanation about the power plan and power mode

The most important part of this video was the part where you said you have/will release a video on how to setup the qualcom version of Debian image on these machines. Subscribed.

@MaxwellHay

5 күн бұрын

Arm support shouldn’t be a problem now considering it’s been 8 months

“I’ve bought them myself” see ya returning them back after review

@FlorinArjocu

5 күн бұрын

Here in Europe you have 2-3 weeks to return a product you bought online. I think most youtubers return them.

@AbarajameLabanyera

3 күн бұрын

@@FlorinArjocuExcept when you buy from Amazon. Then it’s 6 months

@PsychedelicPalm

3 күн бұрын

@@FlorinArjocu yup all the open box deals u get are returns from KZreadrs who have probably ran all the tests and already sucked out the life of the hardware...

@M16-bf4ku

3 күн бұрын

@@PsychedelicPalm not at all lol

That is impressive results. Thanks man!

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

You bet!

was waiting for this, thaqnks

Thank you for demonstrating Windows ease-of-use.

@richard.20000

6 күн бұрын

Please run Linux Geekbench 6 too. (X Elite should reach 3200 pts in Linux)

@TrioLOLGamers

6 күн бұрын

​@@richard.20000Geekbench sucks. It always has been a mess.

@Belaziraf

6 күн бұрын

@@richard.20000 Let's be honest, all Windows machines work better under Linux. I'm allergic to Linux, but it's reality. What I point out is that the better a machine performs on Windows, the better it is for Linux users. At least from the feedbacks I had from the few friends that do use Linux.

@v00017

6 күн бұрын

@@Belaziraf The only real exception I've found to this is brand new products being untested on Linux, but that's more a problem with the manufacturers themselves not implementing support before release.

@xtan-yt

6 күн бұрын

​​@@richard.20000 I have an x86 laptop that lasts above 10hrs on linux. I have no idea why i get 4 hr max sot on windows.

Thank you for the amazing work ! looking forward to your battery test video

TLDR: This video is pure gold! Man... Everybody out there can buy a device, use it and tell "I (dis)like that thing for reason X, Y" and its ok because most of the other people don't care. They just need Laptop and they should just pick what people think is good. However, to make an actual good review for nerds who don't just want a device but want to nerd themself in the deepest rabbit hole ever, it needs so much more and there comes the problem: Besides all the private people who simply use the device and say "yes, that's what it looks like, I like it" there are also "professional" reviewers. Professional in the way that they earn money with it. But not so professional in a way that they understand what the actual heck is going on. They run some tests and benchmarks and put them in a list, sort by ascending and say "XYZ is the best product" and then other people come and say "benchmarks are useless I like another device more even though its lower on benchmarks" and that is true, if you use benchmarks like that. But, benchmarks are absolutely needed to measure and get objective results. And with benchmarks I don't just mean cincebench but aslo standardized procedures for special tasks from people who know what they are doing, who know how to use them and what is going on under the hood. And if these people do benchmarks and especially also interpret them you get something that is pure gold for a nerd like me. I don't have the money nor the time to do all this myself and I really appreciate your content because it is fun to watch, teaches you something and one day will help me deciding on the next product. Thanks Alex, I really appreciate it!

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

🤩 amazing! i really appreciate it!

@newQns

6 күн бұрын

@@AZisk You are truly awesome!

@drishalballaney6590

5 күн бұрын

@@AZisk I have a small request, if possible can you please try and see if you can run Linux on this laptop?

Very impressive dive and analysis with experimentation on the power modes and battery connected vs not in regards to the benchmarks.

Excellent job. Thanks for the effort

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

thanks! 🙏

That was the best benchmark review on these machines

such a detailed video, much appreciated!

Definitely the most thorough explanation of the power plans I've seen so far, thank you! I will definitely be using the powercfg trick.

Great explanation on the power plans!

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

wow thanks so much!

Nice to see a deeper dive into the power thing. Would be interesting to see what happens to battery life with the "Ultimate Performance" settings.

Pretty neat you could use a PowerShell script to manage the power plan. A little burdensome but at least an alternative

@AZisk

5 күн бұрын

i’m sure there are scripts out there to automate this

Great review as always! 🎉 Looking forward to dev review, around wsl, nginx, ollama, rustc, ruby and php benchmarks 🙏🏻

Man great review thanks!!!

Here we go, Alex explaines goodness :):)

@mhavock

5 күн бұрын

Basically if you have a mac, you wasted your money : throw it away and come to the good side. 🤣🤣🤣

Different approach, different results Nice effort for new POV. Great Thxs Alex 👍👍

Very great video, one of the best if not the best explaining the new X elite line. One thing I wish you mentioned is the battery life in these different power plans.

1:50 thanks for recommending/mentioning these useful tools!!!

Thx for this honest Review Alex

To be honest, this is the first time I have been amazed by a KZread reviewer. You are just amazing.

Been waiting for more alex's content :)

Can't wait for complete comparison

Lovely, a proper review.

Alex for the 8 BILLIONTH time - the i386 32-bit Chrome executable can only use 1GB memory, as an OS level limitation, and also can’t use PRISM SSE2/3/4 instruction set emulation. You NEED to get the amd64 release, otherwise the benchmarks get slaughtered.

@DaveHcontrarian

5 күн бұрын

this is why i am glad i am not a programmer

@peanutcelery

5 күн бұрын

I can’t believe as someone who says they are programmer doesn’t know about this. This is like the intro of computer architecture in a computer science program.

@DaveHcontrarian

5 күн бұрын

@@peanutcelery based

@FAKEAXIS

5 күн бұрын

crap i've been running the 32 bit variant, why is that being set as default 😢

@bazasgruntas

5 күн бұрын

@@peanutcelery nah bro not that many programmers learn about all the limitations of a legacy architectures, chill

great video. thanks for the power mode explanation

Great review! Waiting for more detailed analysis on especially Book4 Edge.

I like your mic sound, may i know which mic are you using?

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

Sennheiser MKH50

Would be interested to see a Linux Native (No VM) Test of these to see where the Linux Drivers are for this Chip.

@TheZaman_

6 күн бұрын

i thought that Linux run natively in Windows through Windows Subsystem for Linux

@ianneub9796

6 күн бұрын

@@TheZaman_ but obviously Windows (Executing the WSL) take also Resources. Who serves the CPU driver in this scenario I have no idea, that’s out of my expertise

@blurandomnumber

6 күн бұрын

@@ianneub9796 There are two WSL flavors: WSL1 is a linux-abstraciton-layer on top of win11, everything runs natively on the win11 scheduler; WSL2 is an actual VM where you have the entire linux virtualised. Basically, tests under WSL1 are as native as they come for compute tasks, but suffer in IO (disk/network/etc) due to win11 essentially emulating the linux IO (and win11 being objectively weaker than linux in some IO areas).

@massimo79mmm

5 күн бұрын

afaik, the bootloader is locked so you can’t install linuux as dualboot

@cynicist8114

5 күн бұрын

They're not ready yet. Qualcomm is estimating they will have the key pieces up streamed by kernel 6.11. That should be a few months from now.

Brilliant work done by explaining the discrepancy between benchmarks. Seriously impressive!

The BEST review!!! Amazing job!

If you edit one of the plans, another configuration sets the CPU utilization. The default is around 40%. Did you run on something like this? It could be found in the advanced settings

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

The High Perf mode sets MAX CPU Util to 100

thanks for doing these tests - am quite excited by Windows on ARM vs M-series

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

More to come!

@wisdomyaw03

6 күн бұрын

​@@AZiskYou should also consider power consumption in your test, not only performance.

Awasome stuff I actually enjoy your reviews from a technical support point of view.

amazing work!!! ur channel is VERY underrated

Goat 🙌🏼

How much does the battery life suffer in normal use with the high performance power plan?

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

tbd - more tests coming soon

Thankyou sir, you're the only one on KZread who is showing benchmarks in detail while others are still talking about camera and display quality

Amazing work on this video. Thanks

Put linux on it.

@franciscopostigogarcia2694

6 күн бұрын

get a life

@jonragnarsson

6 күн бұрын

I kind of like that you need basically run a virtual Linux machine to get stuff done.

@kuroshite

6 күн бұрын

Put Arch on it

@kuroshite

6 күн бұрын

That's how I'm going to be using my laptop

@AdamGamingARK

6 күн бұрын

@@franciscopostigogarcia2694 get a lenovo yoga slim 7x

I love how you're able to flow between MacOS, Windows, and Linux, like butter. It must be amazing to have such options in front of you.

Great reviews, thanks much for the work. Will you be reviewing the Qualcomm Windows SDK box when they release it?

super useful video, many thanks, finally someone on YT clarified the naming schemes and power plans/modes, btw I noticed same power fckery with latest Xeons (2465X) which also heavily depend on what power plan+mode is set in Windows 11

Can you do full power normalized test at several power levels? It's good to know it can reach some good benchmarks scores, but without any power consumption data it doesn't give you the whole picture.

Power mode in windows very confusing 😅

@1centimetre

5 күн бұрын

But it's very liberating. In one click, you can make it shutdown the fan and run 100% silent mode, or push the chipset to the extremes and get some nice boost for multitasking and gaming. > For light tasks, choose efficiency. > If you don't want to think, set it to Balanced and it will do the job for you. > Want to get boring stuff done quickly (e.g., video rendering), then set it to Best Performance.

@jimbernard3289

5 күн бұрын

​@@1centimetre The option is cool, the issue is with usability. Microsoft just needs to make it simple and obvious like the Lenovo Vantage app.

@trk1b28varianrhesa4

4 күн бұрын

And Microsoft doesn't event update the powerplan settings UI since like 2005

just wondering how the battery does on the Samsung when running Ultimate Mode ?

I only exited to run linux on that laptop :/

Great. So setting power settings on a Windows laptop requires sifting through layers and generations of UI like a digital archeologist, and unless you throw guids at the CLI you still dobt know what it’s going to do. You couldn’t have written a better advertisement for MacOS and Linux.

@zh9732

5 күн бұрын

I've been told "you see, this is better though, because hard-to-find default settings will result in lower greenhouse gas emissions when the average user is stuck on "energy saver"!"

@bradleylauver

4 күн бұрын

It's literally one click on the battery icon to change the mode so seems pretty obvious to me.

@Stllivi

4 күн бұрын

@@bradleylauver Seems like you didnt watch the video.

@MartinzW

3 күн бұрын

@broimnotyourbro too bad MacOS is more limited OS.

@0bsmith0

Күн бұрын

Anything is better than Windows.

Super technical analysis and helpful vid. Keep it up!

Man, i've had enough headache with that power plan vs power modes when testing laptop CPUs. Good information btw, can't wait to get my hands on one of these X elite laptop :)

Does the Qualcomm chip consumes more power than the M2 & M3 to deliver the same performance?

@NathanielBabalola

6 күн бұрын

Lol I think so

@rezaulkarim7703

6 күн бұрын

Yes it dose, But there are a number of facts you have to take into consideration that usually nobody thinks actively. The Snapdragon X Elite 84100 (the highest SKU) variant can peak up to 100W of power during a burst load but does not sustain for long, whereas Apple M3 has a reported peak load of around 50W. This is due to the fact that M3 is a TSMC 3nm process node where all X Elite are TSMC 4nm process. Now to get a comparable perspective, the 3nm process node enables a 20% to 25% improvement in performance over the M2 chip, according to Apple’s claims. That still does not account for the 50% higher power demand for the X Elite. That is due to the fac that (my guess), the X Elite Orion CPU core is heavily based on the Phoenix CPU core architecture designed by Nuvia for the server space (before Qualcomm bought Nuvia). Though these Phoenix CPU cores were designed to be scalable, it still is not an entirely mobile/desktop focused CPU. Qualcomm heavily boosted the clock speed for adapting these CPU cores to be on par with the M3 (not the M3 pro or ultra). Given this is just the 1st Gen product, we will get much more efficient and comparable CPU s within a few generations. But these will still be parity between the M series and everything else as Apple usually book/block a full new gen TSMC process node for its own CPU, leaving the competitors to use older last gen process node.

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

6 күн бұрын

@@rezaulkarim7703 M4 will smoke Qualcomm chips easy. When M4Pro/Max comes out, it wouldn't even be competition.

@bassyey

6 күн бұрын

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu You talk like that's something new. lol. year by year even on mobile qualcomm gets smoked. I'm an Android user.

@wisdomyaw03

6 күн бұрын

​@@rezaulkarim7703M3 doesn't peak above 20W. 50W is the M3 Max

alex pls install a Linux distro as dual boot and test these systems

@laloreta798

6 күн бұрын

Their bootloader is locked :(

@luigidabro

6 күн бұрын

​@@laloreta798 WHAT???

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

to get linux on there might take a little more work, still researching an approach

@Vitalya245

6 күн бұрын

@@AZisk what kind of work?

@xrafter

6 күн бұрын

​@@Vitalya245 Kernel work! Qualcomm is working to release to the upstream linux 6.10+

Finally! The variations in the scores are now demystified! Thanks a lot Alex!

Thanks for the video.

Finally, a good video about the topic. Now we know why the scores are different between devices. I was going to buy one (with the Snapdragon X Elite 80 or a MacBook with the M3), but I waited for the reviews and they are either very pleasing or quite disappointing. In my opinion, the raw power of the Snapdragon X Elite 80 can be impressive and it has potential, but you'll run out of battery faster on the high-performance plan compared to the MacBook.

@richard.20000

6 күн бұрын

X Elite has similar IPC to Apple M1 (same chief architect, similar cores) however X Elite scales better with frequency (so it's enhanced M1). Almost 3000 pts in GB6 for laptop is very impressive (intel and AMD have no chance to match it without going over 5.0 GHz). X Elite is x86 killer. ( in Windows laptops ) Just some people didn't realised that yet. Maybe they don't remember P4 vs. K8 clash - low IPC speed demon vs. high IPC beast at moderate clocks. IPC always wins, especially in mobile/laptops.

@Dulkh4n

6 күн бұрын

wait till see what amd has to offer in a few weeks

@xperiafan5370

6 күн бұрын

​The IPC of the X-Elite is far from that of the M1 and close to that of the M3. Especially considering that the X-Elite is on 4nm meanwhile the M3 is on 3nm. The scores of 2.9k Vs 3.1k ST @4.0 Vs 4.05 GHz from both chips should show you that the M3 is just slightly ahead and it's mostly because of the semiconductor architecture.

@marceelino

6 күн бұрын

Buying mac is really bad. Only get it when you can install Linux or Windows on it.

@ko2610

6 күн бұрын

@@marceelino you can install linux on the metal on apple silicon and windows on a virtual machine... can you install macos on a snapdragon?

je parle français mais n'empêche pas de profiter de tes excellentes videos en anglais

This is the first time I've come across your channel. It's refreshing to see a real analysis being conducted on these devices.

Great job Alwx just wanted to know how good is ubuntu in this machine (use the server then install ubuntu-desktop through apt or fedora which has a native arm uild too alongide debian

Test Android studio please

@BrandonLackey

6 күн бұрын

not supported at moment sadly

@Giggs995

6 күн бұрын

@@BrandonLackey even with prism? I guess it will be available in arm pretty soon, as it already exists for Mac

@BrandonLackey

5 күн бұрын

@@Giggs995 Android Studio ran but not the android emulator... got an error.

I feel it so dumb that given all the fancy AI they've been talking about, the Windows users are now still left with a bunch of power plan, battery plan to bother with. Why can't I just turn on the machine and use it without worrying about what I should choose for my today work load (or even the next 30 minutes). Come on Microsoft.

@plaintext7288

6 күн бұрын

Just use battery saving until it becomes a limiter

@hundvd_7

6 күн бұрын

​@@plaintext7288 Did you even watch the video? It. Is. Not. That. Simple. Why are there hidden settings that are unavailable in the UI? Why are there two set of options? Why is there a difference between plugged in and not? (when in performance mode)

@the_crimsonprince1658

6 күн бұрын

@@hundvd_7 bro isheeps want everything from default , so usually apple doesn't provide customisation choice 😂😂

@Somebodythatiusedtoknoww

6 күн бұрын

@@the_crimsonprince1658 even if windows is more customisable you still shouldnt mess with your damn cmd just to get the actual performance that your machine is advertised as. windows is shitting their own software

@asdqqq846

6 күн бұрын

How should hbe AI know what you are going to do this day? In general having as much power as possible is the best solution whenever you are plugged in anyways, or if you are willing to plug it in if it drops to low and you have a socket nearby. The AI can not know that you are going to the park later and should safe some battery.

Quality content 😊😊 The best comparison I have seen so far

There's another power setting in the manufacturer apps also from what I've seen in other videos (asus has "myasus", samsung has their own also). I believe it controls the fan curves and tdp iinm.

I want to know if I can code with it. Looks very promising.

@OnlyCitrus

6 күн бұрын

It has really good performance for code compilation. Only GPU is lacking.

@ActionReaction..

6 күн бұрын

why would you not be able to code with it?

@scientist30

6 күн бұрын

​@@OnlyCitrus I saw people complaining about stuff not being supported. Can I use popular code related tool? Let's say Android studio flutter, web dev tools or python side data science and analysis or pytorch? I want to buy but I'm scared

@AgustianesUmbaraSuwardi

6 күн бұрын

​@@ActionReaction.. toolchain compatibility, IDEs, cross compiling, etc

Great video. Most tech channels are ignoring the massive restructuring in tech driven by AI. While benchmarking Qualcomm chips is interesting, it's crucial for PC and Android users to understand how dependent their manufacturers are becoming on Nvidia. Reports suggest Nvidia is charging $30-40k per chip, costs that will inevitably be passed on to customers. Apple surprised the industry and now stands out among competitors by creating their own chips and developing a unique, privacy-centered LLM architecture. This could shield Apple from the financial impact of Nvidia's pricing. It's hard to see how Nvidia’s AI pricing won’t eventually disrupt the PC market.

@moozillamoo2109

3 күн бұрын

"creating their own chips" That would be years away. Apple car would probably be a reality first. "unique, privacy-centered LLM architecture." LOL. I wonder how does Xi Jiping feel about that.

@sharonb.9128

2 күн бұрын

@@moozillamoo2109 I don’t know what you mean here. Apple Intelligence refers to Apple's in-house development of AI technologies, including their own machine learning models and architectures. Unlike many companies that rely on Nvidia's GPUs for AI processing, Apple designs its own chips, such as the M1, M2, and now M3 series, which integrate specialized AI and machine learning capabilities. This vertical integration allows Apple to optimize hardware and software together, ensuring performance, efficiency, and privacy without depending on third-party hardware like Nvidia's GPUs.

Great video! This is about the only one I've seen so far that's actually really informative about how these chips perform. I'm not really in the market for a new laptop right now but I'll definitely be keeping the 2nd or 3rd gen X Elite laptops in mind when that time comes based on the performance they delivered here. Hopefully the battery life is up to snuff though.

hey, man.. nice video.. is it possible to use external GPU with those arm socs? can you test?

M3 has efficiency cores, X chips do not. M3 has 4 high power and 4 efficiency cores. X chips have at minimum 10 "powerful" cores. They claimed it is faster than an M3, and it isnt. Based off that alone, Qualcomm was at minimum deceptive about their claims. Disabling all power management features isn't delivering imo. Also this isn't even against M4 or the new Intel and AMD chips. Also I find it interesting that traditionally ARM processors have been heterogeneous processors, especially in mobile devices, with "big" and "little" cores, where as these chips are only 1 processor type. Could this design decision be as a result of the "technical" limitations of Windows and their scheduler not being up to snuff? Wouldn't surprise me. I am all for more than just x86 and having ARM/RISC-V CPU support, but Qualcomm is lying about so much stuff, especially the readiness of their graphical drivers.

@madmehtab

6 күн бұрын

10 powerfull cores need more power but still is efficient.

They were not faking, not really telling the whole picture. Showing benchmark scores when only on high perf mode, and showing battery life only on battery saving modes, it's just deceptive.

@piereligiodisante

6 күн бұрын

It has to be said that a well tuned high performance mode can retain most of the performance without pushing too many watts. At least, this is how it works currently on intel machines from what i tested

@DerpSenpai

6 күн бұрын

That's what AMD and Intel do too btw

@trk1b28varianrhesa4

4 күн бұрын

​@@DerpSenpai that doesn't really matter cause x86 high performance laptops usually have like 4-8 hours of battery life. We are know they terrible

Alex, I have been using Windows for years and I love my surface pro 7, but am about to finish grad school and need a data science/ML laptop. Is it too early to tell, or is it cut and dry in terms of what you would recommend between the surface laptop 7 ( want the 64GB RAM 1TB SSD version) / and the M3 PRO Macbook pro ? For ML and data science tasks are they close enough that it would be worth just sticking with windows or is there still such a huge gap that you would recommend switching to a macbook pro?? thanks for all you do man.

Great video! Your latest videos on the Snapdragon SoC are really great. On your next video on X Elite vs X Plus, can you talk or compare the Dual Boost on the Elite and how it makes a difference versus the Plus? Still deciding what to buy.

@AZisk

4 күн бұрын

thanks so much!

Man, this is insane, especially in your conclusion where you say it beats everything. What's the battery life when you go to best performance? What's the point in reaching the same levels as the macbook if suddenly the battery life only lasts 2 hours? This entire product launch is mental weird - next to no publications running benchmarks, weird tidbits of info here and there - this should be an exciting time for the industry, and yet all we're getting is little info here and there like your videos. Apples transition to m1 worked so well because it just worked. I'm reading complaints daily of printers not being able to be added, your power profile issues, software not running. It's just... I want competition, but it feels like a lot of the tech space just aren't being honest with consumers with these devices. I know qualcomm invited you to their event in Hawaii Alex, but instead of defending qualcomm here you need to call this stuff out. If consumers have to go through layers of altering power plans just to be able to get performance, then they're not really getting the performance they're paying for are they?

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

i didn’t go to Hawaii. wish i did. also, i plan to do more video. they take time to plan shoot and edit and im working on these by myself. have some patience

@andyH_England

6 күн бұрын

I take zero notice of benchmarks; they are easily manipulated with extreme performance settings on Windows machines. Even reps of these OEMs say you should max out settings for performance benchmarks and put on super-saver mode for battery benchmarks. Who does that in real life? Balanced mode on all my laptops from day one until it's retired.

@wisdomyaw03

6 күн бұрын

This is exactly my thought! You can't talk about high performance without factoring in power consumption, if the whole deal here is about power efficiency. Intel can also offer even higher performance with their high end chips-but at the expense of power efficiency.

Battery life is atrocious lets be honest. So far, with what they have proposed, I'm getting 8 hours of video playback, no other tabs open and its the 84-100 16 inch variant. Samsung: Let the battery callibrate itself for 2 weeks and see. Which means, you're outside of your return window her in the UK. Not getting anywhere near the battery life and the macbook, regrettably will always beat these. AND I HATE APPLE

@NMCloud355

6 күн бұрын

I am getting similar battery life. 6-8 hours of light use with the 16 inch 80 elite edge. Nowhere near the 22 hours advertised. I have the surface laptop 7 arriving today and that has had much better feedback regarding battery life. Fingers crossed.

@Clemenza18384

6 күн бұрын

@NMCloud355 be good to know what there battery is like. Also can get a 32gb variant I believe

@AdamGamingARK

6 күн бұрын

@@NMCloud355 legion slim 7 yoga is probably the best one

@arvandvarahram

6 күн бұрын

Andrew Marc David run a test with Surface Laptop, 14 inch, at 120 Hz, 40% brightness, 4k KZread video playback. The battery lasted 20 hours, 9 minutes and 19 seconds. Isn't that phenomenal?

@andyH_England

6 күн бұрын

@@arvandvarahram I still do not believe that as no one has replicated it and it seems impossible. Sadly, I have called him out too many times and he has blocked both my accounts! I would not take one review as gospel.

Really looking forward to get a battery test comparison

Very thorough, very nice. Are you planning on doing a gaming benchmark of the X Elites?

My m1 MacBook Air gets 27 in speedometer 😂😂…it came out 4 years ago

@shivanshshivi811

6 күн бұрын

And the galaxy book gets 30.... While m3 macbook air gets 29... What is your point?

@MFMP

6 күн бұрын

Best laptop ever made.

@shadowlemon69

6 күн бұрын

I tested a school laptop that has an i9-13900H, 8GB of RAM, 512GB of SSD, it scored 9 on speedometer. In another laptop it scored 4, but that laptop has a Pentium 4417U, 8GB of RAM and 1TB HDD/128GB SSD, I don't know what the problem is

@TamasKiss-yk4st

6 күн бұрын

And don't forget it half or even just third of the price like thise new laptops, even if it's a bit slower, still fine for daily usage (also with this inconsistent power profile, even Snaodragon users get the similar performance and they think woah.. because even Alex said for the 30 it's the first time he see that..)

@MFMP

6 күн бұрын

@@TamasKiss-yk4st I did 4k video editing and other work on WIFI for a full day easily.

Poor Qualcomm, their chips seem good, but are dragged down by Windows; its power settings are a mess

@kaltimoktober

6 күн бұрын

how is something dragged down by something you can change yourself???? make that make sense?

@swapneelbehera260

6 күн бұрын

X elite still has mediocre gpu though.

@scod3908

6 күн бұрын

And yet the Air gets high scores *AND* good battery life from default, without any of that hassle

@thephilvz

6 күн бұрын

@@swapneelbehera260 still has about 10000 times more games to play though

@AdamGamingARK

6 күн бұрын

@@kaltimoktober talk english please

Please test some programming tasks on these machines.

U should have checked the power draw as well when it was plugged in to get that multi core score

This is why people hate windows….9 different power settings…holy crap !!!!

@jasenhenry

6 күн бұрын

i appreciate the flexibility to dial in what my needs are over the one size fits all approach of apple. the technical part appeals to me

@Prakyy

6 күн бұрын

eh they're in a transition period, but I tend to agree. They're slowly getting rid of all the control panel stuff tho...

@timmy7201

6 күн бұрын

As a Linux user, I find the number 9 being on the low end...

@yawenmo7774

6 күн бұрын

@@Prakyya transition period that started with windows 8? How many years has it been?

@RyanSandersTheSage

6 күн бұрын

Imagine if you will... an OS that give you options and choices..... Apple fanboys will not understand.... Linux users "those are rookie numbers"

The kryptonite of these machines will be windows itself…

@im_aditya_sharma

6 күн бұрын

I'll just install linux.

Awe, this is dope, will open terminal and add that feature.

Wow, this is really a deep dive into the power characteristics of these new machines! Thanks a lot for bringing this to the surface, so to speak! ;) What I"d really appreciate is a nice little graphical "utility" (what we called these things 20+ years ago) to quickly change between max. battery and high power modes! (Alex, a challenge for you?!)

Great chip. Shit OS.

W8ing for some dual boot and Linux tests, and ofc to see if basic stuff works😉

Found your channel from TechLinked, wanted to see the settings you used for better performance. I got the high performance option chosen under power options but power mode still has the same three options (recommended, best, better). On surface pro 11 elite. So I should just choose best performance for the best performance? That's what I did and as I'm typing this video buffered midway for ~10 seconds lol

Amazing in-depth investigation! Never saw anyone talk about all those power plan/mode configurations and how they affect the performance! Nice job bro!!

incredible work!

@AZisk

6 күн бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Set best performance when plugged in and balanced for when in battery.

This video made me a subscriber! Love the deep dive into these machines versus other reviewers who just did surface level coverage just for views. Keep it up!

Thanks for covering this, I wish more reviewers would cover this and show us the battery in hours for power saver, balanced and performance modes.

I rarely comment on videos, but well made video. This is the first video about Windows on ARM that was actually useful.