Was I the only person who busted out laughing when Wyman says this about Little Walder being killed, "Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey. "

@sweetpotatofries99

6 жыл бұрын

Joshua Baratheon Love it, that was COLD.

@khalilelfak8955

6 жыл бұрын

Joshua Baratheon Based Wyman ❤

He's the embodiment of the fans' hate for Freys and Boltons. lol

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+musicf3b lol, I can see that

@Stoner075C

8 жыл бұрын

+musicf3b That's why he is so fat.

Both: He's both loyal to the Starks, and ambitious and want power. Those doesn't go against each other. He want the Starks back, but he also want to strengthen the position of House Manderly.

@iloveyourunclebob

5 жыл бұрын

Being the one to stop the Bolton's and get the Starks back in power definitely helps with those goals.

@ythandlename

3 жыл бұрын

If the man is capable but proven loyal then why shouldn't a man be given such power when he's equally fitted to be burdened with such responsibilities? Many may want to take his place and a close eye on one man may just be better than a eye a few men who may compete and brew feuds. That may be the case but the Manderlys seeking to enrich themselves is normal for a noble family but it would be a different case entirely if he seeked favor from other houses as well. If he's only interested in serving the Stark family but want a stronger position for his house then it would make sense to grant it to him so long as he has proven himself.

@SerialChiller1000

2 жыл бұрын

House Manderly is by far the most richest and second most powerful house in the North.

@KofiBreak

4 ай бұрын

Orys Baratheon was loyal and ambitious, when he could have attempted to kill his half brother aegon the first for the throne, but he was loyal and was rewarded with the Stormlands, which paved the way for the baratheon line for generations. You can be ambitious and loyal, it just depends on who you’re loyal to, and what your ambitions actually are.

_"So young," said Wyman Manderly, "Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey."_ Every time my hatred for some characters begins to overwhelm me, I will return to this video, and read this post.

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Lord Dragon Reading through Wyman's dialogue is so rewarding :)

There are no words to describe who much I love Wyman Manderly.. I mean, who wouldn't love him? He schemes like Varys and Littlefinger, he patiently abides his time like Doran Martell, he uses his obvious faults and shortcomings to hide an extremely intelligent man, has a legit wealth and powerbase like the Lannisters and Tyrells, has balls of iron like the Greatjon anf most importantly, has this undying loyalty to the Starks.. The Wolves will come again, and the Merman will pave the way for their return; staying true to a promise made a millennia ago for a debt than can never be repaid.. THE NORTH REMEMBERS!!!

Manderly knows he won't leave Winterfell alive. Hard to be any more loyal than that. He is giving his life to betray the Boltons and Freys and avenge the Starks.

@juandiegocv

8 жыл бұрын

+The Stark In Winterfell isnt his army on the way to karhold though? i mean he could very well be working as a double agent and not necessarily giving up his life.. think about it he sends part of his host with freys and boltons to attack stannis at karhold, wouldnt you think his host has the order of turning on them there if they see the chance? i wouldnt be surprised if they just straight up turned on the frey and bolton hosts when they engage stannis at karhold if it comes to that

@juandiegocv

8 жыл бұрын

Thunder Clap i was somehow under the impression that they were at karhold on the wow chapter of theon .. you know since they took captive karhold's castellan.

@thesnowinwinterfell2571

8 жыл бұрын

+Juan Cedeno no, the Karstarks came to "join" Stannis' army, however they were spying for Bolton and waiting for an opportune time to turn their cloaks.

@juandiegocv

8 жыл бұрын

then at which keep are they? cause they had the audienes and had theon in chains in some tower.

@jimokane5594

8 жыл бұрын

+Juan Cedeno Stannis already knows about the Karstarks treason and has arrested the Castellan Arnolf Karstark and his sons. He is going to give the Karstark soldiers a chance to prove their loyalty to him by basically making them the first into battle when the fighting begins. Yeah the Tower Stannis has Theon in is at a village near Winterfell where Stannis plans to turn the frozen lake to his advantage.

I got teary eyed when i read his 'The North Remembers' speech. I can't imagine him being anything but a Stark loyalist. We don't know what is happening behind the scenes. There are hints of alliances between all the other houses against the Boltons and the Freys, but nothing is certain except for the Mormonts and the Manderly's, and nothing gave me as much hope for the Starks as did that speech.

Manderly only wants Davos to go to Skagos so he can get some cooking tips for his next batch of pies.

@killuday

3 жыл бұрын

Based mandarly

There is certainly not a problem with Wyman working for his house's betterment. He is a cunning man and im sure he was jockeying for some position within Robb's small council, but more then just begging for or expecting it from some kind of Nepotism, Wyman set out to earn those positions he wanted, because he knew he was the best man for them. Like you said - who else? I also think Wyman would be a fine regent for Rickon. He would no doubt use his influence to further secure his family's power, but again, thats to be expected - thats his job as Patriarch of his house. what isnt to be expected is that Wyman seems to truly be a Stark man through and through and would see to the Stark's care better then anyone else in the North. It would be wonderful drama if Manderly is the seat that restores Stark. Repaying that old family debt. Wyman would jump at that opportunity. As Robb's master of coin or ships? who else? As Rickon's regent and mentor? who else? As saviors to House Stark? who else? Manderly. Manderly is my favorite house for these reasons. Wyman is the only genuinely good high noble in the whole series once Ned Stark and Robert are dead. He's loyal, with both words and actions, and not a man to be trifled with. He's a builder. Too many are just interested in Tearing down or playing games. Wyman is building the North the way it should be.

@linearman0245

8 жыл бұрын

+Altorin I have a feeling Wyman would arrange a betrothal between Rickon and Wylla, mainly to strengthen the ties further. He'd the complete opposite to Cersei in terms of regency.

@davidgeraghty3693

8 жыл бұрын

100% agree with this statement. He has a shrewdness that Ned never had; meeting the Frey's/Bolton's on the battlefield is suicide. He will bide his time before striking. I think he is genuinely loyal, just better at playing the game. Nothing wrong with being rewarded for that loyalty with appointments and regency.

@Altorin

8 жыл бұрын

linearman0245 and if he rescues Rickon and restores him to power in Winterfell that would be totally within his rights and would be a completely normal thing, and good for both Stark and Manderly. Sure, Rickon might not have any real say in it and that might be sad in our culture, but if Manderly restores Starks to Winterfell he and all of his descendants would be infinitely in Manderly debt, rightfully so. It would be fitting.

@marcusanark2541

4 жыл бұрын

Wisely said, I totally agree.

@hiddendagger7291

4 жыл бұрын

stannis? he's is still alive

He wants to eat all the Freys

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+The TPEnthusiast Nom Nom Nom

I pray that manderly really is a Stark loyalist. I can't wait for the whole North Remembers plot to play out and I think he's a big part of that.

@nasiraliclark

8 жыл бұрын

He is, but he definitely does want to cement his power, he's both smart and shrewd. The North remembers.

@Spongebrain97

5 жыл бұрын

@@nasiraliclark yeah its pretty clear that he does wanna restore the starks but at the same time wants to elevate his house. If he did something like wed a granddaughter to rickon I don't think anyone would have a problem. The starks continue their bloodline and the manderlys become more influential

@sonofjack6286

5 жыл бұрын

Hopefully the Mormonts, Mallisters, and Reeds that are in the Neck march north to liberate the North from the Boltons. Maybe with Lady Stoneheart's Brotherhood Without Banners.

I would tend to agree with you--that he is BOTH a Stark loyalist AND a man willing to look for security and opportunity for his own house's place in the hierarchy. I ALSO think "appearing greedy" allows others to underestimate his motives. Like being fat, people make a lot of assumptions about that greed. It means they THINK he can be bought. This provides a safety net for him to be relatively safe, while at the same time working behind the scenes for vengeance.

I think it is a little of both. He is a staunch Stark loyalist while at the same time ambitious and wants to increase his influence in the North but not to the detriment of House Stark. Originally when I got into the grand Northern Conspiracy I thought he meant to use Rickon as a rocket to power by marrying his granddaughter to Rickon and assuming regency, but now I see that Rickon could be a cover and heir for Jon or a back up plan in case Jon refuses the kingship.

I like to see the Manderly and Wyman relationship to the Stark's intentionally paralleled with Sam & Jon's relationship. Sam is a Reach nobel forced to leave his home dishonored and under the threat of death. The Manderly were a whole Reach house forced to leave their home, dishonored and under the threat of death. Jon didn't just ignore Sam, but took him under his wing as family. The Stark's didn't just give them safety for coin, but raised the Manderly to a powerful seat in the North overnight and treated them as equals & family (quite literally through several marriages). Jon was rewarded by this through Sam's unique and critical skills (like how to kill a white walker). The Stark's were rewarded with the North's only city(created through the Manderly's knowledge), and one of the Seven kingdoms biggest ports. And both Sam & Manderly's are fiercely loyal to the ones who saved them. Also, both are known for being quite heavy...

@kingjonstarkgeryan8573

8 жыл бұрын

Nice job picking that up.

@marcusanark2541

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, never thought about it.

I can see Manderly being a loyalist, but believing that it´s in the Stark´s best interest to have them in great power, therefore justifying his ambitious actions.

He's probably a bit of both. I MEAN COME ON!!! FREY PIE!!!!

0 dislikes... it feels like eating a freshly baked Frey pie...

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+The King in the North You jinxed it! :P

@Aessa7

8 жыл бұрын

+Rawrist Maybe he didn't only "Jinx it" BAM BAM BAAAAM!!

@superfunny153

8 жыл бұрын

+Rawrist I am sorry, I am sorry, I am deeply sorry... it is the "House Stark" curse, I completely forgot about it. Everything starts fine but ends up badly If you excuse me, I will continue apologizing after the wedding I have to attend

@snakeguy8646

8 жыл бұрын

+The King in the North And we never saw him again, though we all had a good time making Rheagar Pie at Whiteharbor!

Wyman is GRRM. He will portray him as a hero despite his physical appearance and monetary ambition.

@snakeguy8646

8 жыл бұрын

+AU Packmule Lets just hope the most important character of the books doesn't die first, I think you know who that is.... :|

@crimsonsamuraiftw

8 жыл бұрын

Samwise Tarley?

@snakeguy8646

8 жыл бұрын

crimsonsamuraiftw No, George RR Martin..

@crimsonsamuraiftw

8 жыл бұрын

Well, he's the writer, not a character of the book.

@snakeguy8646

8 жыл бұрын

crimsonsamuraiftw You do realize what it means by "MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER", well, imagine if the writer of a unfinished book series dies, that means the most important character basically DIED.

Great as always Rawrist! I believe in my heart that Manderly is ride or die for the Starks and the North. Wyman, like Rickard Karstark wants revenge for the death of a child but he also sees all the schemes and back stabbing going on around him. He's not going to fly off the handle and make poor decisions. He knows he has to be patient. He's getting all his ducks in a row before making any moves. He hasn't forgotten what the Starks did for the Manderly's back in the day. If in the process of getting revenge for the Starks and setting things straight he gains a few perks, well, so be it. Who better to serve as regent for Rickon then a man as fiercely loyal as Wyman?

I think he's a loyalist and an opportunist, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. Really that applies to every banner house in the series, they're all either looking to advance their position or reinforce their position and all of their actions (or inactions) are to this end.If he's not for the Starks then he's either for the Boltons (in which case angering the Boltons and Freys is a bad move) or he's for himself, taking Rickon as a move to allow him to take control of the North (in which case putting himself in physical danger is a bad move). The only thing that makes sense from a narrative standpoint, based on what we know and have seen so far, is that he's supporting the Starks. However that won't necessarily help him if/when he runs up against Stannis' forces. At this point Stannis believes Manderly executed Davos and is for Tommen, and a battlefield in the middle of the blizzards of winter isn't the best place to talk things over - if Manderly is unlucky enough to get jumped by Stannis' men, he might meet a sticky end no matter what his intentions. Mind, it's worth remembering that the Wolf's Den in White Harbour is now a prison, who knows if that's just colourful backstory or has some prescient significance...

i love Wyman! he is one of my favorite background influencers of the plot. nu whole family is so into have of throne we use the word Frey as an insult. and one of my favorite soiaf quotes is Manderly's taunt (paraphrase) " perhaps it's good that he died... otherwise he would have grown up to be a Frey"

*Next Video* Roose Bolton: Brony or Evil Vampire?

@aguilacahc000

8 жыл бұрын

Good morning Rawrist. I think Bolton is not a brony lol and hopefully he and his bastard get what's coming to them

@jamesgenn3694

8 жыл бұрын

Evil vampire brony, duh!!

@tomgymer7719

8 жыл бұрын

+Rawrist Ramsay is the Brony.

@sickofwashington

8 жыл бұрын

+Rawrist Wait, that's a trick question. Everybody knows Bronies ARE Evil Vampires! :-D

@troperhghar9898

8 жыл бұрын

I'll put my money on brony

I'm another one that agrees with you that it's a little from column a and a little from column b - genuine Stark loyalist, but also clever and willing to create or take advantage of opportunities for his house. So far he's managed to do both without apparent problem; it'd be interesting to see how he decides if the two aims were to come into conflict - would he choose loyalty to the Starks if it means damage to his own house? My personal opinion is that he would do all he can to scheme and maneuver to avoid that possibility ever arising (as he has so far), but if it became unavoidable then he would show his true colours and risk all for the Starks. I think there's also, particularly in the early stages of Robb's rebellion, a little from column c - Manderly knows that he cannot serve Robb in the same way as other major bannermen (Greatjon Umber, Roose Bolton, Rickard Karstark), he simply cannot travel with an army anymore. Similarly, he's aware that his two sons will not fit in with Robb and his close companions (though one is made a part of Robb's kingsguard, he's far older than all of the others) - they may be trusted and respected, but they are less likely to develop as close a relationship, always being seen as of another generation. But Manderly has to do something to prove his/his house's importance to Robb, or be the only major northern lord who is unimportant to the cause. To some extent he has to maneuver to counteract the prominence of the others (especially Roose - since, as you note, Bolton and Manderly are neighbours and have probably clashed many times), but also I think these maneuvers are genuine offers in an attempt to be of value to the north.

I honestly think that House Manderly is one of the few houses who have always been loyal to the Starks.. Throughout history, the Manderlys have always backed the Starks in all their actions and decisions (like supporting Princess Rhaenys Targaryen and her son Ser Laenor Velaryon and being among the major supporters of Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen during TDotD).. Two noble ladies from House Manderly have married into House Stark.. Lord Wyman, his sons and his granddaughters also seems to share that love..

I totally agree with you, especially about his empathy with Brandon, Wyman even called his body a prison if I remember correctly. The only things I'll ad are that the game of thrones is zero sum, if Wyman isn't master of coin someone else will, they might be near as bad as little finger. Also, Eddard was honest and just, and must have rewarded the same traits in his subjects, it stands to reason that working towards mutual goals would be much easier in the north.

When at the feast with Bran, the boy is forced into some politics he knows nothing about. While most lords come to Bran seeking aid, or willing to make trades, Lord Wyman seems to be full of ideas on how he can help make things easier. On the surface it seems a little too good to be true. Underneath, I see Lord Manderly as a sort of Godfather to the Stark boys, and wanting Bran to know that his friendly dimeanor is his way of showing a boy he is a loyal friend, and he want to help build a strong northerm kingdom with Stark's as the solid rulers.

Great video, I believe he's definitely a Stark loyalist but he's also trying elevate his families position. I can certainly see him arranging a marriage between Rickon & his granddaughter.

I think Manderly is just a genuine loyalist and will die to put another stark on the throne.

Rawrist I simply love your reviews from Thrones to Star Wars. Please keep up the great work it is very much appreciated.

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Brando Hill Thank you so much :)

Part loyalist, part schemer. He wants to get his Rickon back, a young, impressionable, Lord of Winterfell. He will see Manderley as a savior and could easily get his family married into the Stark line, as well as getting anything he wants from his young liege lord. He is the richest of the Northern Lords and potentially the most powerful with the Starks in downfall, he could take the North and grasp it, but he remembers his vows to the Starks as his Granddaughter reminds him.

@TraciPeteyforlife

8 жыл бұрын

+Thunder Clap true fact

@Salamon2

8 жыл бұрын

+Liam Maguire The only issue I have is with Wyman marrying one of his granddaughters to Rickon. Rickon is 4 going on 5, with the closest girl being a decade his senior, if not eleven years. That would really narrow window in which to repopulate the Stark line before Wylla might be considered "too old". Rickon would have to begin right in the midst of puberty. Not impossible for Wyman to be aiming for it, but I think that when Rickon grew older it would be harder to accept such an arrangement.

@LEMGaming18

8 жыл бұрын

+Salamon2 It mirrors the situation between Margery and Tommen, but Rickon wont have the Cersei figure around to be have the opposite opinion to his bride. So if Manderley does want to manipulate Rickon I think it would be easy to

@Salamon2

8 жыл бұрын

Liam Maguire Except Tommen and Margaery are a bit closer in age.

@LEMGaming18

8 жыл бұрын

+Salamon2 only by 2 years

Wyman Manderly is one of my favorite side characters in the books.

First of all, I can't decide what I like more, your awesome work or your beautiful voice. I think Lord Manderly is loyal to house stark to the bone. And he is also smart enough to see the oppertunity to improve his house's position in the north! As Ty Noguchi mentioned, he is kind of looks like the opposite of Roose Bolton, he is fat, Roose is skinny. So why shouldn't that be applied to his mind aswell? Roose is a treacherous creature, loyal to only himself. So Wyman would be a loyal man, looking for the best for his Kingdom: The North, and the Starks are the Kings in the North. Doesn't make perfect sense, but is kind of an Idea. He may also feel as he has to give something back for the oppertunity, the Starks gave his family in the first place. He may have some personal goals in mind, but I think they are not his first priority, but helping the Starks to regain their ancestral seat and their position in the North is!

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Philipp Hasenmaier Thank you and thank you for your insight :)

If I'm honest I always just took him at his word. It's like they say the North fears the Boltons, but they loves the Starks

finally, found this channel

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Clyde Welcome!

@ClydeC

8 жыл бұрын

thank you.. glad to be subscribed to your channel

It would have been in Robb's interest to place Wyman in his small council; the Manderlys are one of the North's primary bannermen

I agree with you wholeheartedly! out of all the northern lords, Wyman Manderly is my favorite I do believe he is loyal to the starks and I hope he gets is deserved revenge against the Boltons and the freys

I agree with you! Wyman is avenging his boy and his liege lords! His boy first.

Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived he would have grown up to be a Frey. #sickburn

This was an awsome video and I really like your channel. Keep up the good work!

love it great video as usual keep up the awesome work

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Bryan Ganz Thank you!

I'd love to see you do a full video exploring the "Grand Northern Conspiracy" theory someday. Enjoy your work as always.

Ha love the pun Weight behind his words your killing me Rawrist! I believe that Manderly is a true banner man to the Stark's and will work hard to see them returned to Winterfell with the assistance of the Umbers and Glovers. Someone will need to unite the North to face the upcoming onset of winter and the white walker invasion. Remember that the majority of the strength of White Harbor and the Manderley's is missing along with Wyman's son. Wyman is currently outnumber outside the walls of Winterfell by Frey's, so this would be a prefect time for the Umber's and missing White Harbor knights to rid the North of the Frey's once and for all. Leaving the traitor Bolton's and friends stuck between a rock and a hard place. Great videos and keep up the hard work you do a great job.

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Hurtado Thanks for your insight and thank you for the compliments :)

I think he knows the way the wind blows in the North, and while there is still a chance of a Stark resurgence, they have to make sure they are on the right side of it. He also wants vengeance for his son.

This channel is really great. Good work. You and preston jacobs are me go to for ASOIAF., but I love that you do star wars and other stuff too. :)

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+PocketSand Video Productions (Clark Strobel) Thank you :D

I agree with what is said in the video. With how Wyman spoke to Davos after Wylla's outburst in the Merman's Court, I heavily believe Wyman is a loyalist. In a medieval world, and especially asoiaf, knowing where you came from is huge. Look at the house words. Every house has these ancients phrases they try to live by. House Stark has many characters who have similar characteristics and outlooks. I think Wyman truly believes he can NEVER repay the Starks for what they did for the Manderly's. But, I do think Wyman is an opportunist, and his grab for the Hornwood lands and 2 Small Council seats shows Wyman will fight his way to the top. Like others have said, I think Wyman was semi-justified in taking the Hornwood lands... Ramsay is freaking crazy.

Bit of both wants to bring Rickon back and manipulate him but Manderlys were betrayed by everyone south of the Starks and saved by and given prime land by them so I think mostly Stark loyalist.

I'm certain, Wyman Manderly is a genuinely good guy. He's also smart. He knows what he's doing and I feel like he truly has good will behind all his actions so far and has all along, just tried to remain cautious, specially when in Winterfell. The mark of a wise man, I'd say. He would deserve to be Master of Coin or Master of Ships, if things were to go that way. He's playing his cards right. He knows how people feel about him and he's 'wearing it like armour'. I have high hopes for this dude. Then again, this is A Song of Ice and Fire and you never really know..

The Manderly family is loyal to the Starks

Lord Manderly always seemed loyal to the Starks to me. His various political machinations can be construed as self-serving but that's not necessarily a bad thing. If you believe you are the best person for the job why wouldn't you volunteer yourself and your abilities to those you care about. I always read Wylla's actions as the Manderly id. She knows what's up and isn't gonna front with any bullshit, especially for the sake of the Freys. I feel like the Manderlys will really show all of the other houses a thing or two in the next few books. They have some of the southern sophistication of the Lannisters and the Tyrells but with the noble hearts of northmen. The North remembers!

you guys are just awesome,

I agree with you. Lord Manderly seems like he is still loyal to the Starks. Of course, he's also doing everything he can to improve the position of his house - nothing wrong with that. I worry about him though. Bad things happen to the righteous in Westeros.

@JK_2998

8 жыл бұрын

I think we're past the point where the good guys keep getting screwed over, no Starks have died since season 3, and 3 Lannisters have died in the past 2 seasons.

@ItsEricaBeyetch

8 жыл бұрын

I think grr Martin is trying to make his series seem realistic and not just horrible. And its not realistic for smart but good intentioned PPL like manderly to be out done by less smart PPL like the freys

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Jeff Ralston Yeah, I've heard some awful end theories about Wyman

@nickdentoom1173

8 жыл бұрын

+Jeff Ralston Not at all, else Davos would have bitten the dust after the Blackwater.

Ambition and self-confident loyalty can be hard to distinguish at times. Manderly seems to be aware of his strenths, and how they can be put to best use for the north. That, of course, would also benefit him. But in his own eyes, it benefits the whole kingdom as well, and he's not wrong about that. And in the current situation, he probably feels he is the only powerful loyalist the Starks have left, so who else would be there to save them? I'd say Wyman Manderly will go to great lenths to make his house the second greatest house in the North. And he will go to greater lenths to make sure he is second to House Stark. He will neither be satisfied with being the third greatest house, nor accept being the greatest, and certainly not being second place under any other house.

Those Reek chapters with the Northern Conspiracy, the Ghost in Winterfell, Abel the Bard, Ramsay, just Theon getting himself back in general is the best storyline in Feast/Dance

lord not-too-fat-to-sit-a-t-rex

@sonofjack6286

5 жыл бұрын

Nice

He is a loyal and ambitious man and I love the way he helps the starks

I think one could call Wyman Manderly as a foil for Roose Bolton. Both could be described as ambitious men, wanting the best for their respective houses and eager to see their houses rise, but differing in their approach, their methods, and how high they want to rise. Roose Bolton wanted rule the North, and betrayed his liege lord when the current squatters on the Iron Throne offered him that very desire. Hence Roose got what he wanted, but in so doing lost the respect and gained the hatred and resentment of the lords he meant to rule over, likely to his eventual detriment. Meanwhile, Wyman is also has ambitions for his house, but he also does not forget the allegiance he owes. As Wylla Manderly reminded him, the Starks raised them up when the Manderlys had nothing to give. The Starks gave them lands to build upon and rule, in exchange for their promise to always be their men. So Wyman wants to have a position of favor and power in the North - so what? Everyone does. But he isn't going to gain and use that power at the expense of his liege lord. The Starks have been brought low and have nothing to give. Wyman is now in a position to repay the Starks for what they did for the Manderlys so long ago. What can I say? I'm hoping for that one good man in Westeros who actually *wants* to do right by the Starks.

I really hope they cast him for season 6 in the north remembers plot as he would be a great character. Though they did have a miss opportunity when they married ramsey to sansa for him to show up and make them eat the frey pie. Hopefully they still do that though. PS Great video

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+B SP I am really hoping for S6 Wyman *crossing fingers* Thank you :)

Dude made his enemies eat the corpse of a rival house. That's pretty fucking metal.

Honestly, I think your video says all there is to discuss. He is not one of these things or the other but a combination of all of them. One thing you didn't mention was the pretend execution of Davos and how Stannis is now his enemy. Maybe he does this for the sole reason of appeasing the Boltons. Sure, all he has to do to get out of hot water with Stannis is to have Davos explain the plan. While it is not likely, there is always the possibility that Stannis will be victorious. Personally, I don't think he trusts the decision as to who will rule Winterfell to be left to a Baratheon. And I am convinced he is a Stark loyalist but he is playing his cards safe and close because he has his own house to worry about.

this vid was amazing it gave me so much hope for the manderlys story line in the next book

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Carson Johnson The North Remembers!

The manderlys are Loyalists through and through..... but I would personally love to see a Willa Rickon marriage. Not rickon as king but she is strong and would bring support to the stark claim

The thing that stood out to me about Manderly was when Davos came to his court. When his granddaughter says how the Manderlys owe a debt to the Starks he rubbishes it in front of the Freys but later reveals how he thought what she said made her clever and bold. Also he seemed genuinely pissed at the Freys for not just killing his son but also Robb. Like you said although he is in with the Starks for his own gain he also seems to be willing to go above and beyond to stay loyal when it would be easier to desert them

I think it's true that he wants to master of coin and ships, but I think it's out of loyalty, not necessarily about a power grab. Those are absolutely things that the Starks need(ed) and he is/was the best man for the job.

I'm pretty sure he loves him some Starks, but he mostly wants to murder the people who killed his son. He probably sympathizes with the Stark boys and will support them when they show up.

"THE NORTH REMEMBERS!"

I thumbs up every one of your videos I would thumbs up but even if I didn't like it which never happens because you're awesome

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+HedgeKnight Sith Haha, thank you very much, dear Hedge Knight!

I'm so hoping that he is just the loudest Stark underground supporter and Ramsey gets so screwed when he calls his alleged bannermen. And also he might help the elder two Starks to, well, play the system in a way both Jon and Sansa are more comfortable with than even Sansa's lessons from Littlefinger.

I agree with you. Wyman is Loyal to the Starks.

Great discussion video. Manderlys is one of the rare Northern players who have it's original roots from the South.

Great video +Rawrist as always we love you and what you do ... the man's a Stark loyalist to the core, but he knows of the game the South play, he's not blinded and knows he must buy his time and scheme to get revenge and honor the Starks. We must also remember that these our war times and he has a house and city to protect, he can hardly remain idle waiting to be honered by a position he did not ask for, or wait to be assalted and overrun by the enemy. People people people he will constantly look for ways in which to protect and solidify his house and people, they depend on him, it's his duty as Lord (looks like that northern way has rubbed on to House Manderly...lol). To continue doing that he must do what he must do.

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Mr Black NYC Thank you :) After learning about his intentions, it starts to rub you how some people say he isn't a real northerner.

Love the Manderlys :) awesome house

I think you´re right on point. He´s very loyal, doing anything he can to keep house Stark alive and in power. That doesn´t mean he can´t have own ambitions for his family.

i think he is a stark loyalist but is trying to pposition himself near the top he knows if he helps rickon come into his own he or his sons will be in a position to either be master of coins master of ships or even hand of the king

I agree with your assessment. Manderly could be a major game-changer in the North.

Rawrist I couldn't agree more

Both. Being a calculating schemer does not mean that he's not a absolutely loyal bannerman. He might want more power and influence for his house, but he's firmly loyal to the House that allowed the them to settle in White Harbor. One things does not cancel the other, in my mind.

You are correct, Rawrist. Lord Myman is staunchly loyal to the Starks, yet also angling for a preeminent position in the Northern regime.

absolutely, girl

You nailed it, honey.

Definitely smarter than given credit but also not gonna avoid opportunities to gain power

He's a man with the Interest of his people at heart. He know the Starks of Winterfell are better for the North than the Boltons and Lannisters. He also knows that a foolish rebellion on his own will do nothing for his people. But if he can use Stannis and a multitude of Northern Houses to bring the Starks back it may be worth it.

I have this theory that Robb Stark has always been intended to marry Wynafryd Manderly, because she fits the bill perfectly (rich, from an ancient line, from the North, and worshiping the Seven would have earned points from Catelyn herself).. We know that Rickard Karstark have always instructed his daughter Alys to catch Robb's attention but nothing came about and I find it odd that Robb is not yet betrothed at his age since he was the heir to Winterfell.. And aside from Wynafryd and Alys, there are probably no better candidates to be Lady of Winterfell, though Bethany Blackwood and Ysilla Royce would have also been suitable candidates..

I believe his only king is the King in the North. Does he want to bring power to his house? Sure, but that doesn't take away from his unflinching loyalty to the Starks. He kills three Frey's and rides to winterfell to undermine everything the Bolton's and Frey's have built, he is also one of the few people who know the truth about Arya and Jeyne

Love wyman! His performance in front of the freys w davos was epic!

I think it's a combination of Manderley's love for the Starks and his hatred for the Bolton/Frey duo. He's the richest man in the North so he'll always have a place of importance for whomever is ruling the region since he controls the major port as well as the only city. Being the richest guy helps as well as he can manage to buy a big army when needed. I think he's doing all the schemes to rescure North from the Boltons as a Stark loyalist.

I think what it comes down to the end of the simple fact that he's a smart enough man to do both things at the same time I mean if you can help the people that you're loyal to and further your own Ambitions of the same time why wouldn't you

That T-Rex though! Does he feed it Frey pies? ^_^ Nice vid as always, keep it up!

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Marcus Skoog Haha, that is a GRRM's surprise ending: Wyman found a T-Rex. To battle!

Jon Snow has avenged the Red Wedding...the King in the North.

nice background music

I think he is one of the biggest stark loyalst 2nd to the mountain people I think he is trying to get revenge for his son and the starks while trying to get a stark back in winterfell because he knows if one is alive the north will rally to them but on the other hand he also knows you can't make it and keep your house alive while supporting someone that may not be around anymore so he is going along with the boltons and freys as they expect him to just incase Davis fails or a stark don't return. I could be wrong but I think I'm right as you said his daughter wouldn't just act like that out of the blue she knows what's up she was taught it by her elders

I think he is absolutely a loyalist, and while he is looking out for his house, if it were his top priority, he made serious strategic mistakes by making his loyalty so public. His loyalty will only do the North good if he plays his cards right.. so in a way, his strategy is key to saving the Starks.

What region will you cover after the north, the riverlands and\or the neck? Keep up the good work =]

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Firstbloodchill I'll do a poll to have you guys decide. All the regions have fun history and theories.

What is the name of that background music in this video?

i just sub to your channel cause i love game of thrones

@Rawrist

8 жыл бұрын

+Darryl Conte Welcome!

@darrylconte3551

8 жыл бұрын

thank you can you make coldhands next please

Wyman manderly is one the most leal and trustworthy lords in both the North and South. How dare someone even question his motives hypothetically?!? I will defend his honor to my dying breath

True to Our Word!

This is refreshing. Someone that doesn't disregard all information from the books for confirmation bias. I don't like it when a fan theorist just says 'Manderly (or another character) is actually [*blank*]'. 'Oh, well what about this section of the book, where they did [*blank*], or this chapter later when they [*blank*]?' 'Oh that was just a ruse! It was a bluff! A fake!' lol, man, so many bluffs and fakes between houses, it's a wonder any of them still have any plans at all.

Manderlys are true Stark Loyalists. Like you say in the video, their plan almost was lost when the Frays disrespected Rob. I really hope we get to see them in the show.

Totally Agreed With Your Personal Opinion of Wyman :D Go Manderly

I am inclined to think that House Manderly is the northern version of House F*ey.If the Starks can ever survive this whole thing it will be by the help of the Manderlys who seem to be the only party in the Stark camp that can play the game. By the way i strongly feel that the Manderlys have something to do with the pink letter.