WW2 German Amerikabombers | The Secret Aircraft That Aimed At Bombing The United States | PART 2
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Amerikabombers. Nazi Germany plan to bomb the United States. Part 2
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The Amerikabomber (English: America bomber) project was an initiative of the German Ministry of Aviation (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) to obtain a long-range strategic bomber for the Luftwaffe that would be capable of striking the United States (specifically New York City) from Germany, a round-trip distance of about 11,600 km (7,200 mi). The concept was raised as early as 1938, but advanced plans for such a long-range strategic bomber design did not begin to appear before Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring until early 1942. Various proposals were put forward, but these plans were all eventually abandoned as they were too expensive, too reliant on rapidly diminishing materiel and production capacity, and/or technically infeasible.
According to Albert Speer's book, Spandau: The Secret Diaries, Adolf Hitler was fascinated with the idea of New York City in flames. In 1937, Willy Messerschmitt hoped to win a lucrative contract by showing Hitler a prototype of the Messerschmitt Me 264 that was being designed to reach North America from Europe. On 8 July 1938, barely two years after the death of Germany's main strategic bombing advocate, Generalleutnant Walter Wever, and eight months after the Reich Air Ministry awarded the contract for the design of the Heinkel He 177, Germany's only operational heavy bomber during the war years, the Luftwaffe's commander-in-chief Hermann Göring gave a speech saying, "I completely lack the bombers capable of round-trip flights to New York with a 4.5-tonne bomb load. I would be extremely happy to possess such a bomber, which would at last stuff the mouth of arrogance across the sea." Canadian historian Holger H. Herwig claims the plan started as a result of discussions by Hitler in November 1940 and May 1941 when he stated his need to "deploy long-range bombers against American cities from the Azores." Due to their location, he thought the Portuguese Azores islands were Germany's "only possibility of carrying out aerial attacks from a land base against the United States." At the time, Portuguese Prime Minister Salazar had allowed German U-boats and navy ships to refuel there, but from 1943 onwards, he leased bases in the Azores to the British, allowing the Allies to provide aerial coverage in the middle of the Atlantic.
Requests for designs, at various stages during the war, were made to the major German aircraft manufacturers (Messerschmitt, Junkers, Focke-Wulf, and the Horten Brothers) early in World War II, coinciding with the passage of the Destroyers for Bases Agreement between the United States and the United Kingdom in September 1940. Heinkel's bid for the project occurred sometime shortly after February 1943, by which time the RLM had issued the Heinkel firm the airframe type number 8-277 for what essentially became its entry.
The Amerikabomber project plan was completed on April 27, 1942, and submitted to Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring on May 12, 1942. The 33-page plan was discovered in Potsdam by Olaf Groehler, a German historian. Ten copies of the plan were made, with six going to different Luftwaffe offices and four held in reserve. The plan specifically mentions using the Azores as a transit airfield to reach the United States. If utilized, the Heinkel He 277, Junkers Ju 390, and the Messerschmitt Me 264 could reach American targets with a 3-tonne, 5-tonne, and 6.5-tonne payload, respectively. Although it is apparent that the plan itself deals only with an attack on American soil, it is possible the Nazis saw other interrelated strategic purposes for the Amerikabomber project. According to military historian James P. Duffy, Hitler "saw in the Azores the ... possibility for carrying out aerial attacks from a land base against the United States.
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What you might be interested in is that the P51 Mustang wing was NOT a "fighter" wing. It was a "distance" wing ..you can see that if you look "across it" tip to fuselage ...the " bump" of the upper surface is set back from the leading edge. This is indicating that separation of " lift" is delayed (ie it wants to fly straight longer),, resulting in reduced maouverability. This was offset by the use of laminar flow. This, in turn, "handed over" that lost at the leading edge to the control surfaces. That explains why a Mustang could outdive a Messershmitt, but could not outclimb one. More control of the wing going down, more drag in a climb. The rest was...genius engineering ....great pilots ...great engine...great tactics
Some historians believe that the decision not to use the P-38 or P-47 for long-range escort was not based on technical limitations but rather a matter of politics. Drop tanks would have given either type the range.
@labulldog1970
10 күн бұрын
With drop tanks they had a 2,600 mile range.
@Bearthedancingman
10 күн бұрын
'Greg's aircraft and automobiles' channel spent around 6 hours proving this from original documents. While the result was the P-51, the cost was the unnecessary deaths of way too many young aviators.
@PeterMayer
9 күн бұрын
I have never heard that. It has been said multiple times that the P47 and P38 did not have the range.
@JessPeters-qg1bn
9 күн бұрын
Yet they both were used in the Pacific theater over long ranges. The operation to intercept Yamamoto and shoot his flight down was over a very long range. One of the longest by the P38.
@J.D-g8.1
Күн бұрын
I think Greg is technically right in so far as the P47 etc could have done it. But, i think there is more to the picture than just the bomber mafia thinking escorts wasnt necessary, and then covering their tracks. The reason i think so is because drop tanks didnt solve the issue for Germans over Britain or for the British over Germany.
I believe Operation Barbarossa still is mis-interpreted as a 'failure' ...
Good post
Weird that Eric Brown joined the navy and ended up flying more different types of aircraft than anyone else!
@somebloke4027
11 күн бұрын
It’s when he became a test pilot that the varieties started racking up I think.
@Dronescapes
11 күн бұрын
I suspect his incredible records will never be beaten
@Brian-om2hh
8 күн бұрын
Eric Brown flew with the Fleet Air Arm....
On November 4, 1944 a V-1 was fired at New York, presumeably from a submarine. It ran out of juice and impacted in the surf of Long Island. The event was suppressed in the media. It wasn't released to the public until the day Germany surrendered. Everyone in the US is celebrating VE day and the news release was overlooked to this day. My father was flying P-40s in Burma in 1944 and he was brought back to the US and posted to Mitchel Field on Long Island and given a P-47 to look out for and intercept V-1s fired at NY. He got home from the war early and hooked up with my mother and here I am. I was born in November of 1945. I owe my existence to the attack on NY. My source is The Stars and Stripes newspaper.
@Brian-om2hh
8 күн бұрын
V1 and V2 impact points were also banned from being reported in the press in Britain, so as not to provide the Germans with any indication of their targeting accuracy......
The Junkers Ju 390 story (where it was claimed to get within 12mls of the US coast) is a myth....we know the fuel capacity of the Ju390 & we know the burn rate of its engines (BMW801E), the truth is it didn't have the (combat loaded) range.
@Brian-om2hh
8 күн бұрын
The claim/alleged story was never proved nor disproved. These aircraft would certainly have had sufficient range, although their bomb-load would have been but a token one. The ultimate aim was to drop an H bomb on New York.... Unfortunately for the Germans, the progress of Allied advance meant that the development programmes of these aircraft was eventually unviable....
A pipe dream.
Simply, this is the best treatise on how germany lost the war, imho... scarier, the more one learns the specifics.
When I don't get it, why didn't the Germans convert the Condor to a bomberand they could have attacked the Soviet Union.
@JessPeters-qg1bn
9 күн бұрын
They didn't have enough Condors. However they did service as Atlantic raiders and recon aircraft
@Ira88881
9 күн бұрын
Attack what? Look at the size of that country.
Pues no las usaron
Strange amount of information nothing to do with the theme and so fort
Lies 38 and 47 both could have been there. Command decisions.
P-38&P-47.NOVEMBER4,1944V-4
Thirst
Did Germans ever consider Air to Air Refuelling? After end of European War the USAF and RAF were planning to send their 4 Engine Bombers to Far East to bomb Japan, approx 3000 in total including 850 Lancaster's of which 250 were to be equipped to be Air to Air Refuelers to extend range of others , the Luftwaffe could have done the same surely if RAF could do it, it would surely have extended range of the 4 or 6 engine German Bombers ?
Maybe this is a bit simple of an answer, but what assured German defeat was their own evil. There is a psychological reason why evil always looses, from it's arrogant ego and pride which is nothing more than an emotion of fear, to the subconsious knowledge that evil is harmful. Evil and ego, is always afraid to lose, to be bruised, fears exposure and having light shined on it's exploits. Which is always followed by self destruction.
@Ed-ty1kr
8 күн бұрын
@@MysticalDragon73 Actually more like a historical perspective. Every single thing the Nazies did was a failure, V1 became target practice for allied pilots, Tiger tanks drained the already low availability of steel as most broke down and burned fuel like none other while accomplishing nothing. Jet aircraft used up scientists and designers while only being able to fly 3 flight before rebuild and made zero confirmed kills. Even the most produced fighter in the world the Bf109 caused more death and desteuction to Nazi pilots and aerodromes because more crashed in accidets than destroyed enemy aircraft. German U-boats had the worst chances of survival of all soldiers allied or axis. V2's hit nothing because you could target nothing. And thatz just the Germans during WW2, I can span history and prove this further, but I will instead just leave you with the old addage "Good always wins over evil" wisdom from the ages.
@Ed-ty1kr
8 күн бұрын
@@MysticalDragon73 The only time evil wins, is in it's inital destructive attack... which in itself is counter productive and by definition harmful. It is a regressive, self destructive, spiteful, ego driven state of mind, that creates nothing, only destroys. Even the ego self is just an emotion based on fear, always afraid to get bruised, hurt, exposed, and always afraid to lose. If you fail to understand why evil is bad, then you will just have to learn it the hard way..