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@F4Insight-uq6nt

10 ай бұрын

All Wars are Fake.

@cryingfish2488

9 ай бұрын

😅😅😅

@Lethgar_Smith

9 ай бұрын

Thank God mistakes were made. Can you imagine if the Nazis had deployed their ME-262 sooner and had developed an atomic bomb first and combined them with their V-2 rockets? A dark and disturbing world locked in a death spiral into barbarism and total collapse in less than a hundred years. Thank God evil is, more often than not, pretty stupid.

@martiehensley4452

9 ай бұрын

shame you did not show any thing about the Haunebu MK 1,2,or 3

@Aziz-he7ok

9 ай бұрын

​@@martiehensley4452😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😅

My Dad flew B26s out of Sardinia. He almost never spoke of it, but did once tell a story of encountering the ME262 late in the war. They had an escort of Thunderbolts, and when the jets came at them out of the sun they hit two bombers and the fighters were right on their tail in pursuit. At the bottom of the dive, the jets put their noses up and flew back through the formation taking out two more bombers, while the Thunderbolts were down below circling, circling, circling to gain altitude. Meanwhile the jets had to return to base to refuel. We didn't get along well, but he had courage all his life.

@rbilleaud

10 ай бұрын

The fighters eventually found an effective way of dealing with the 262s by following them to their airfields and knocking them out as they tried to land. Didn't much help the bombers when they were airborne, but by reducing their numbers, fewer and fewer were available to intercept.

@michaelw6277

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like the P-47 pilots were going for kills rather than protecting the formation. Their job was to chase them away, not follow them down.

@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox

10 ай бұрын

@@martinbrode7131 what's that to do with living under Nazi rule? Or does your tiny brain make no distinction? 😂😂😂

@hakaraiakorakoropiha1982

10 ай бұрын

God bless him for his services, we owe him and many like him for our freedom lol

@hakaraiakorakoropiha1982

10 ай бұрын

My namesake fought with the "28 Maori Battalion" in Crete, never returned to New Zealand

I could listen to Capt. Brown, all day. His expertise and experience is truly amazing.

@howlr747

9 ай бұрын

He was the greatest aviator to come out of WW2. German speaker, he interviewed the German High Command. Sunk on board a carrier. Developed carrier landings, landed a Mosquito on a small carrier, Flew more aircraft types that anybody else- only pilot to have tested all the German aeroplanes and reported on them, and stayed in Germany rebuild German industry. Nobody will ever have his breadth of experience.

@luckyguy600

9 ай бұрын

When he thought the Me 262 was the best airplane that makes them 'very scary' Thank goodness the German Airforce and leadership shot themselves in the foot. A win is a win, no matter how you get there. Our guys were good. Very good.

@silasfatchett7380

9 ай бұрын

@@howlr747 He flew more types of aircraft than anyone ever. A record that is unlikely ever to be broken.

@lioncurlew

7 ай бұрын

​@@howlr747I think he still holds the record for Carrier landings and take offs.

@sc6512

2 ай бұрын

You may already have, but if not, his book "Wings on my sleeve" is a great read.

Couple of years ago, I met a WW2 veteran at a McDonald's and he said was a navigator on a B-17. I shook his hand and thanked him for his service.

@mikeryan7468

10 ай бұрын

What did he think of your fucking hair

@ksmith249

9 ай бұрын

WW2 Veterans are few and far between, these days. When I was a kid in the 1960s, you couldn't throw a stone without hitting one. I ran into a Vietnam Veteran today. I commented that "I thought that the Vietnam guys were all "laying down" by now. (He did not take offense, as he knew what I meant...) and he told me that he would be 75 this year. That is a pretty ripe old age for somebody who did not have to survive a war. I was in awe...

@bg147

9 ай бұрын

That was sweet.

@MrLanternland

9 ай бұрын

@@ksmith249 So it goes...

1. Lack of long-term strategic planning. 2. Lack of an early long-range bomber. 3. Lack of coordination between service branches. 4. Lack of natural resources (aluminum). 5. Lack of a structured, long-terms pilot training program. 6. Lack of top management of production throughout the war. 7. Top management’s inability to delegate and accept the advice of experts.

@kennethlane3896

19 күн бұрын

Thank you for this list. It is right to the point. I was trying to put it all together but this says it all.

One of the best descriptions I’ve ever heard of the luftwaffe was as a too small a blanket on a cold nite. It keeps getting pulled back and forth to try to cover more bed than is possible and eventually gets torn apart.

@robertwillis4061

9 ай бұрын

Yes that's a good point. Trying to do too many different types of aircraft. Cut down the different models and produce more

@catherineharris4746

9 ай бұрын

Great analogy!👍

@erichalverson9248

2 ай бұрын

40:52

@pkfryer

Ай бұрын

A sh#tty, j#zz stained blanket with the blood of a million innocent women and children on it

@robwernet9609

Ай бұрын

That's as good an analogy as I've ever heard.

One of the things the United States did that virtually no other nation did, was quickly identify outliers, overperformers, particularly in aerial combat, pull them out of combat, and promote them to instructors. The theory was that it was more valuable to identify the best pilots early, and leverage their skills and experience to train as many as possible to be competent right out of flight schools. This is why American Aces have so many fewer victories than their counterparts on both sides. Those aces were pulled from front line combat and pressed into service as tacticians and trainers. Meanwhile, in all other air-services, the aces were left to attrition, while the training and tactics never changed or adapted to the emerging technology.

@richardvernon317

10 ай бұрын

British rotated pilots in and out of the training posts as well.

@covercalls88

10 ай бұрын

It was very true about top US pilots pulled out of combat for training duties. And it was very difficult for them to return to active combat duties usually taking about two years . By then it was late 44 or early 45, and much of the air to air combat was over.

@tedlogan4867

10 ай бұрын

@@richardvernon317 I'm quite certain the U.S. Air Corps, as well as the Navy, pulled the top pilots and kept them in instructor roles. There wasn't a rotation if I'm not mistaken. You'll see Nazi aces with thousands of sortees, while the American counterparts had a few hundred at most. Erich Hartman flew over 1400 missions for example.

@nickmitsialis

10 ай бұрын

in addition, for the most part, the Allies did NOT have a 'target rich environment' (exceptions existed like in Malta);

@benwysocki5443

10 ай бұрын

My dad had a similar experiece.. He graduated at the top of his class, flying B25s and Liberators. He never flew in combat. They gave him a commision and made him an instructor.

Winkle was my dads CO at Lossiemouth, not only a great flyer, also a dammed fine commander, but by far ( to his men) a really nice guy!

@thelonious-dx9vi

9 ай бұрын

Wow. He sure comes across pretty awesomely here. It's incredible that he a) was the actual guy who flew the German hardware, b) is on the record with his direct experiential insights, c) does it so well and eloquently.

The german jet lead with the me262 was shadowed by the Gloster Meteor. The British had a good test bed in the first jets with the Meteor. The Meteors service life was considerably longer in peacetime and the ME 262 service life faded very rapidly and was replaced quickly by newer second generation jets

@mydogs9900

6 ай бұрын

😂

@pashakdescilly7517

3 ай бұрын

Winkle Brown seems to forget about the Meteor. It flew very soon after the Me262 and entered combat service very soon after it.

Thanks for replaying these great aerocinema shows

What caused it to fail? Easy answer, Germany was fuel starved by 1941. Though they weren't completely without fuel/gas but it was a trickle by that time, no longer able to do large scale combined arms blitz maneuvers.

@foxtrot312

10 ай бұрын

Great point. Which also resulted in flight training reduction. Less fuel available = less hours to fly.

@terry_willis

9 ай бұрын

Good. If Hitler won, everyone reading this would never have been born.

@chrisburn7178

9 ай бұрын

And fuel available was of poor quality which hampered the performance of engines, particularly the jets.

@Leon-bc8hm

3 ай бұрын

All their aces were in the air 24/7 until they died or indeed had no fuel.

@denis8087

2 ай бұрын

I agree but also disagree . I think Germany was the most powerful military force back then . Only thing don’t matter who you are you cannot win by fighting giants on 3,4,5 fronts .

The allies were incredibly lucky that Goring was in charge of the Luftwaffe. His pride and ignorance were of great benefit to the allied war effort.

@Belfreyite

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. He rode roughshod over Donitz denying the Kriegs Marine a bigger fleet including Carriers.

@hiha2108

7 ай бұрын

He was heavily addictet to Morphine...

@tobiolopainto

7 ай бұрын

"heavily" is a good pun. @@hiha2108

@johncox2865

6 ай бұрын

We were also very fortunate to have Hitler on their side.😂

@johnathanh2660

6 ай бұрын

While this is true, it overlooks the fact that the allies had a similar problem. Goering stayed in post because of his personal loyalty to Hitler, his history and status in the party (member #34, if memory serves) and being a war hero. But being a WW1 pilot doesn't give you the skills to lead a military service! With the US, they were very swift to remove poorly performing officers. Within the UK slightly less so. They tended to be re-assigned out to the Far East. I personally think Leigh-Mallory is over-rated. And the loss of pilots & aircraft which were needed in the desert war and the far east to 'mushrooms and rhubarbs' was nearly criminal.

What a thorough and enlightening video. I would note that the Komet rocket plane had a nose cone of cast steel to act as armor, in conjunction with the slab of Lucite we see in the video footage. The device used to move a Komet on the ground was called a Schleppwagen. We even use "shlep" in English meaning to lug or carry something. I think that tow trucks in Germany are also called this. Test Pilot Opitz was an extraordinary glider pilot, and after the war he moved to America where he taught gliding and competed in gliding events in various parts of the U.S.A. Finally, Hannah Reitsch was interviewed whilst in her seventies, and you can see that the spark for flying is still burning brightly within her. You can find the interview on this platform. --Old Guy

@leneanderthalien

9 ай бұрын

The me 163 had no armor: you forgott this thing did weight less than 2tons…

I've always felt that the Luftwaffe, like the rest of military in Nazi Germany, was geared towards a short war. It's equipment and operational doctrine was based around air superiority over the battlefield and providing tactical air support for the ground troops. The problem with that while the Luftwaffe could do excellent against neighboring countries (Poland, Denmark, the Low Countries and France), they didn't have the necessary reach to be effective against more distant opponents.

@klaus-peterborn1370

10 ай бұрын

It was expected in Germany the war will end in two years but general winter made it impossible. That is why the attack against the Udssr goes to the south. They need the oil and metall from the Kaukasus. The irony in it was, they passed Stalingrad, that was not defendet at this time. Later this town was the beginn of the end.

@tarijohn1924

10 ай бұрын

If you dig into the inner circle of Nazism,they were preparing for a long war and what happened to their disadvantage was that the war came early. Germany had hoped there'd be no conflict till at the earliest,1945.

@petertansey

10 ай бұрын

If it weren't for a few key battles one for the allies we would all be speaking German today. The Germans were far off and ahead in tech luckily Hitler wasn't all that great a tactician and he wouldnt listen to the greatest so he failed his army luckily he got greedy in Russia and the Americans joined and he made more mistakes... It could have been much much different.

@dustylover100

10 ай бұрын

The biggest mistake the Germans made was the lack of an independent air force.

@sistagalsistagal8136

10 ай бұрын

Germans staying true to old methods whilst using new technological advancement. TYPICAL OF GERMANS. THEY JUST DO NOT LIKE CHANGE!!!

At 12:15 - the Luftwaffe did drop a magnetic mine, into tidal water in Kent. RN specialists were able to make it safe, recover it, and study its tecchnical content. And thus ships could be 'degaussed' to make them unlikely to trigger such mines. Ouvry and Baldwin were the two heroes who worked on the unknown mine.

@ohgosh5892

9 ай бұрын

Also the amazing Halifax magnetic mine 'trawler'. It had an enormous electromagnet fitted around the whole fuselage and main wings, when energised, could trigger magnetic mines. The Halifax was the Land Rover of heavy bombers.

@christopherwebber3804

9 ай бұрын

@@ohgosh5892 There was a Wellington version, but I hadn't heard of a Halifax version.

@christopherwebber3804

9 ай бұрын

Yes that was a stupid move. The Germans deployed the magnetic mine in small numbers to begin with, allowing time for the British to develop counter-measures. They should have waited and deployed them en masse, which would have had a huge impact on British coastal shipping.

My father used to say how in awe he and others were of the ME262 in its early forays into combat. They actually had no idea what it was at first, but quickly learned that they had zero chance competing against it when it was just a question of speed. However, it had a lot of disadvantages as well, quite a few of them pointed out in this video, and the P-51 guys, at least, learned in time to take advantage of its lack of good control of its speed, which turned into also not having good control of its maneuverability when it really needed it, and the Allied pilots would take advantage of that vulnerability.

Just googled Captain Eric 'Winkle' Brown - wow !. His lists of achievements and feats is endless, a very impressive man !. As a fellow Edin-burger I salute you, sir - RIP !

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

One of the greatest pilots, if not the greatest, that ever lived. We will soon release some old Betacam footage that was never seen before, adding to his endless legacy.

@robbiepiacun767

9 ай бұрын

He should have been knighted for recognition of his accomplishments

@rogerhayes2117

7 ай бұрын

They reckon that no pilot will ever again fly as many aircraft types as Capt Eric Winkle Brown. At some point or another, he flew every aircraft in service especially axis machines (German, Italian and Japanese) after the war, as High Command were interested in his appraisal of them.

@larryrodgers7309

Ай бұрын

​@@rogerhayes2117 Is this roger Hayes of the 25th Inf.Div.

Outstanding stuff: nice WWII footage and interesting interviews, keep them coming! Bravo!

This one was really good, great interviews, thanks!

A very excellent and knowledgeable documentary. Thank you. Unified technology development and procurement, strategic bombing capacity (instead of a fascination with dive bombing), sufficient pilot training / experienced pilots and resources were what was missing. Thank you!

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

🙏👍

@markgranger9150

9 ай бұрын

Strategic bombing did not work on the Germans how would it have worked for them. Today the Air force has the 1 bomb 1 hit mentality instead of drop a thousand and maybe hit something. The lack of range for their fighters was probably the biggest reason they failed.

Lots of great information here. It's really unfortunate that the digital filtering used on the original film footage is so over-processed.

@michaelstandring5580

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. All the original footage has been stretched to fill the frame making everything look strange. It’s a crying shame.

One of the problems with the Luftwaffe command was trying to get one aircraft to do too many multirole actions. Gooring or Milch demanded that the medium bombers like the Ju88 be used in the dive bombing role. So as a result the wings needed to be strengthened which added more weight and reduced its speed. Another problem with production is that Hitler waited till 1943 to put Germany's war machine on a 24/7 full time basis.

@williammaxwell1919

9 ай бұрын

The DE high command insistance that their planes were multi-functional in their rolls that resulted in these planes not being able to carry out any roll with competence, not too dissimilar to many sectors of our economy that requires that employees are competent in ALL tasks undertaken by those professionals in their discipline/industry while discarding those who specialise in particular aspects of their discipline /industry are overlooked /discarded by employers due to the assumption that such individuals are a liability to the employer, rather than an asset that compensates for the minimal skills of a generalist

@christopherwebber3804

9 ай бұрын

Well that may or may not be true... read Richard Overy's book. He says the German economy was about to collapse when they went to war, as they didn't have enough foreign exchange and the government couldn't pay its debts. So in some ways, they were already at full stretch. in 1940 they had to basically temporarily disband some divisions to send the soldiers to work in the factories. They had a shortage of labour (especially skilled labour) and materials and may not have been able to work much harder at that time. They were only able to keep producing late in 1944 by making things out of spare parts, so when they broke down, they couldn't be fixed.

@markgranger9150

9 ай бұрын

The Germans were producing more fighters at the end of the war than the beginning. After Poland and France Luftwaffe put units in reserve.and made.up losses in production put army units in reserve and did not go into war time production until 43-44. There was not a shortage of money but they could.not support the cost of 24/7 production. When they got free slave labour they could afford to go to wartime production. When thinking about mistakes or making changes in strategy results come back the same, like if Hitler had not interfered with the 262 it would have changed the out come of the war. I don't think it would have changed the out come but it would have gone down in a different way. Little changes at the beginning can make a huge difference in the end. One of the mistakes or oversights may be a better term, was the failure to increase the range of the 109. Simple drop tanks would have changed the Battle of Britain. The lack of strategic long range bombers were not as big of an oversight than no drop tanks. Strategic bombing was not as effective as the allies hoped, after bombing Germany to rubble they were producing more fighters at the end. Britain could not be bombed into submission and even if they could reach the U S I don't think they could have made us give up. The Luftwaffe had high standards and superior aircraft and training they changed their tactics from day to night bombing due to losses. The planes could be made up pilots and crews not so much. The Germans rotated their pilots and crews they were given leave and did there time as instructors. The Luftwaffe ended the war the way the British came in, pilots having a dozen hours of flight time going against seasoned vets. No matter what the Luftwaffe did it was going to lose it was just matter of time

@alexhayden2303

6 ай бұрын

They didn't have the Dakota!

@kevcaratacus9428

4 ай бұрын

I'm sure I read something about the DC ( can't rem the no) did more than all the bombers and fighters towards winning the war due to all everything it carried, men supplies , everything needed to keep the war going forward the unsung hero of ww2 . I don't know if that's true . But I definitely read it or heard it , Ive read and watched so many documentaries, series about ww2, I can't remember if it was an opinion or a fact ,

Wow what an inside about aircraft development etc both in germany and with the allied command. as an airline employee in Auckland NZ, I met Sir Douglas Baden. And only years later I came to realise who he was talking to friend of mine. I learned a lot since. I met him because someone had to assist him going to the lavatory as he had both his legs missing. It was his eyes that i will never forget and his hand on my shoulder in appreciation. What a man! John Sciarone Auckland NZ.

The last documentary on the Me 163 was also highly informative. While being an efficient fighter aircraft, it had the nasty tendency to literally disolve a pilot if the acidic fuel leaked into the cockpit ! This happened at least once to an unfortunate pilot during test trials. Another nasty habit was when the detachable undercarriage bounced back too high into the starting plane, bringing it down immediately to a deadly crash landing in a ball of flame.

At 1:40 "...boxes with coils..." Georing was referring to the radio/radar equipment used on German night fighters.

@foxtrot312

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for expounding on that. Very insightful

What an excellent documentary, in particular the second one with Eric Brown RN, arguably the most experienced pilot in the British armed forces, if not in the whole world. I think that he flew every single British, American and German aircraft of his generation as a highly proficient test pilot.

@bdleo300

Ай бұрын

Far from excellent, just another Mickey Mouse television bs

Spot on, it's mostly all about the pilot, the ground team , planning and support, we had all that mattered most and had effective leadership in these critical areas, the axis had no chance

A lot of insights here, great video.

Magnetic mines were dropped on the UK coastlines, but they were effectively countered.

@douglemay7989

Ай бұрын

Well, they stopped working when they got wet.

Interesting how the Japanese also had bitter rivalry between the Army and Navy.

@knoll9812

10 ай бұрын

Pretty much every country. RAF refused to release planes to close the Atlantic gap even as ships were being sunk.

@singaporesling6112

10 ай бұрын

@@knoll9812 True but with regards to Japan's rivalry it was a war within a war with was based on rival houses in Japan's past.

@1982nsu

10 ай бұрын

When it came to the procurement of aircraft Germany and Japan were polar opposites. The German navy had no authority to obtain aircraft of it's own whereas the Japanese Navy had free reign to order the aircraft it wanted.

@1982nsu

10 ай бұрын

@@singaporesling6112 Spot on.👍

@bdleo300

Ай бұрын

Same as USA actually.

Sorry to start with a grumpy comment: as in so many videos, the subtitles detract from all the hard work done to gather visual material. After the audio gets Goering's name correctly pronounced, the subtitle has it as Gehrig!😬 This apart, an excellent video with extremely good use of in flight footage of the aircraft. Very informative, and I would love to see a comparison of the Me262 and the Meteor.

Nice to see " winkle" brown, he flew more aircraft types than any previous pilot in history

@gordonfleming458

9 ай бұрын

And more carrier landings than any other flyer

Thanks, man. Been interested in the Komet since a young feller. You filled in some gaps. Appreciated.

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@paulbrogger655

2 ай бұрын

If you're interested in the Komet, check out the Greg's Airplanes channel for his series on that rocket-plane.

Anyone else think these dronescapes videos are a bit off? They all seems to be clips of other people's content mashed together and the theme changes throughout the video. Just seems bizarre....

Dad, a B17 flight engineer saw a lot of 262’s August 5, 44, to January 45. I’ve read extensively about the 262, it was a failure because it used gasoline instead of jet fuel. When the 262 throttled back it would quit running and they couldn’t restart. We figured it out followed them home to destroy them.

@nightjarflying

2 ай бұрын

Not impressed by your extensive reading. Gasoline was used for the on board two-stroke starter engine. The Junkers Jumo 004 jet engine however used J-2 as its standard fuel [synthetic fuel produced from coal] or a type of diesel oil. Note that aviation gasoline was not desirable due to its high rate of consumption & would not have been used unless no other choice was available. The 'flame out' was not caused by the fuel used, it was due to rough handling of the throttle - restart was possible but you need altitude.

@Mawyman2316

2 ай бұрын

@@nightjarflying give the man a break, a single article or too is quite extensive.

@nightjarflying

2 ай бұрын

@@Mawyman2316 An extensively wrong article or two then

@Mawyman2316

2 ай бұрын

@@nightjarflying you missed my sarcasm I take it? And I wouldn’t know either way but articles and random googling do tend to have their error rates

@nightjarflying

2 ай бұрын

@@Mawyman2316 stupidity & sarcasm by a stranger look the same in 'print' without the conventional sarcasm indicator

Interesting seeing the early ME262 tail dragger torching the field, and the bird cage over the jet intakes; I’d never seen that footage before.

After finding out my grandfather was captured in the Battle of the Bulge in WW2 I looked stuff on WW2. I concluded the nazis were self sabotaging and wouldn't have ruled for that long. We should never forget the lessons of the past. RIP grandpa and all the people who protected us in that time. I will remember.

Two main reasons : the Luftwaffe lost half of its plane during the France campaign which meant a defeat against Britain. They never caught up. The stupid tendancy from Hitler to name an incompetent like Goering and keep him for political reasons despite complete failure. A bunch of courageous pilots named at high responsibilities without having a single competence in the job. The most famous figure beeing Udet.

Ural Mountains were the long range target that was untouched by Germany!

24:20: ME262. Growing up in the UK we were taught at school that Germany and UK developed the gas-turbine jet engine independently in parallel. In a recently uncovered post-war interview However, Hans Von Ohain revealed that their early development program was entirely based on Whittle's 1930 Patent.

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

Do you have a reference to that interview? What we know for sure is that he initially denied having access,. Later he admitted to have had partial access to Whittle’s work, but his assistant confirmed he actually had full access to Whittle’s work, including drawings. He indeed credited Whittle as the inventor in his book. This details aside, given that Whittle’s work was delayed by roughly 5 years, his accomplishments eclipse Von Ohain’s, as Whittle’s engine could have had a working engine in 1934/1935, and probably even 1933 had he been supported, especially financially, like Von Ohain did

@ingowalkerling5141

10 ай бұрын

Whittle and v. Ohains designs are completely different. You are right, that there were developed parallel, but with different technical properties. Von Ohains design origins from an axial machine concept and Whittles from a radial one. Today only axial concepts survived in jet engines, while general gas turbines are in both design concepts. When Whittle and von Ohain met after the war, they found out, that Whittle began earlier than v. Ohain, but v. Ohain was first with a working machine. And the design of the axial type engine is much easier to construct with multiple stage compressor and turbine modules. Whittle had serious problems to get the thrust he needed from his radial design. On the other hand Whittle was a long time a lonely fighter for his idea, who got no support from the RAF or the DOW. Noone there saw the potential of his idea. V. Ohain had nearly unlimited resources from Heinkel and the Heereswaffenamt, but suffered on an early, deadline to deliver results. So he had to stage some of the first tests to convince Heinkel to go on. And he was right.

@leneanderthalien

9 ай бұрын

@@ingowalkerling5141axial turbo jet are much more difficult to built than centrifugal compressors turbo jets, because axial compressors need much more parts who need perfect alignment and use high quality steel, centrifugal compressors are cast aluminium, and a single burning chamber is very difficult to maintain stable burning whi is much more reliable and effective with multiple burning chambers

@user-zr8eg6cj4l

9 ай бұрын

They also "borrowed" a truckload of design inspiration from Jack Northrup.

@DeirdreMcNamara

6 ай бұрын

Of course it was!

This video has turned out to be a gem ! One point considering the Me-262 and its delay due to Hitler wanting a bomber: Utter nonsense ! How long would it have taken the design and construction team (of which Willy Messerschmitt himself wasn't even a part) to come up with a simple bomb rack ? The answer is Monday moring before the 9.30h (Ersatz-)coffee break. You have a working bomb rack lying around an tell the apprentice to come up with a solution. 262 was delayed due to a lack of working engines. Junkers (of which Hugo Junkers wasn't a part of either) had massive initial production problems. And due to the mentioned "life-time issues" they could never keep up once the 262 went operational. Interestingly, the first test unit to test and operate the 262 under combat conditions was a recon unit, IIRC along with some Ar-234. They flew some missions over Normandy in summer 1944. Pilot conversion training was done on the spot since designated 262 pilots were usually already very experienced. Most pilots found the conversion to 262 easier than from one prop to another. All issues in mind ! Also, 262 wasn't hit that hard by the overall fuel shortage because it didn't use high octane fuel but a sort of diesel. That said, fuel was available, it just couldn't be transported to where it was needed.

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@bergssprangare

9 ай бұрын

Not that easy.. Taking 2 x 500 kg bombs change the whole weight balance.. Fuel tanks have to be moved around .

@stuarthart3370

9 ай бұрын

It's been written that the scrap time for an ME 262 engine was about 25 hours. Winkle Brown spoke to Galland after the war ended and was informed that the real figure for the aircraft engine was 10 to 12 hours. Sheesh that would allow for only a few sorties then straight into the recycling bin. Wow!

@mikeharris7780

8 ай бұрын

I read that conversion training was quite challenging for fighter pilots but easier for ex bomber pilots as they already had multi engine experience and alot more training hours than the fighter pilots did.

@ottovonbismarck2443

8 ай бұрын

@@mikeharris7780 Not really if compared to bomber pilots converting to Bf109. 109s had the bad habit of killing unexpecting and newbie pilots on take-off. The high torque flipped the aircraft over if you weren't careful with stick and rudder; that's something a twin-engine wouldn't do to you. There were certainly other issues with 262 and rookie pilots. Speaking of which: I have no idea if there were any newbies on 262 or if they were all conversion pilots. I've read an account of a 109 instructor (an NCO) who was training a former bomber pilot (rank captain, hundreds of missions, knights cross and the lot). The captain "knew it all" and was almost killed on his first take-off. He was lucky, but 109 probably killed more novice pilots than the USAAF. I've once came across a number of 50% pilot/aircraft losses due to accidents within the Luftwaffe; that's including every aspect, not only training issues.

I read a book once about the German program to develop rockets. At one point, after much effort, forced labor and suffering, Hitler shut down all work because he had a dream that the program would never succeed. Remember that in WW2 history you have to factor in a madman.

No Strategic Bomber and no Better Leadership in the Luftwaffe

Not a single mention of Stalingrad and the dire lack of fuel, or the woefully inadequate number of available pilots.

The photo is of an outdoor factory tjat was concealed in the forest in Bavaria, near the Danube. Diggers still turn up parts to this day.

Herman Göring stopped the double coupled engine intended for Heinkel 177, to make it extremely streamlined, surface cooled and faster than any of the contemporary fighters, because he knew from first hand that it would be impossible to handle in the field! But even in the field a German crew could change an engine on the 262 in half an hour, so the short lifespan was only a question of spares.

@markgranger9150

9 ай бұрын

The dual engine He 144 was a better bbq than a bomber. Bombers get shot down a new bomber would not have helped the short range Luftwaffe fighters. The time it takes to replace a spit or P.51 spark plugs was as long as it took to replace an engine on a 109. That gave the Germans the ability to keep the planes they had in the air.

@damianousley8833

6 ай бұрын

@markgranger9150 Only between 5000 and 8000 Junkers Jumo 004 engines were ever made. With a planned service life to scrap of 25 hours and in actual use 12.5 hours. That means the British Meteor Rolls Royce centripetal engines at 100 to 125 hours before major overhaul not scrapping meant that they were worth 10 Jumo engines each or even more. That is 500 to 800 RR engines in service life equalled the entire production of Jumo 004 engines in service life. The later centripetal RR engines pushed the Meteor to above the ME 262 top speed of 540 mph in level flight. Frank Whittle was correct to initially push for production of the simpler, more rugged, and easier to produce centripetal engines than axial jet engines. Unfortunately, both the Meteor and ME 262 were fuel guzzlers, and this limited the combat radius of the fighters. So they were never destined to meet in aerial combat.

I love war birds of all ages This was so in-depth an educational I really enjoyed it Thank you for putting in time to creat this documentary

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

👍🙏

Спасибо!

I say I like the bf-110 and everyone says in the previous comments "that plane sucks and you should...". I still like it, I think it looks sharp plus it did serve a niche purpose. I also love the US A-10 even with all the more modern jets.

Me-262 uses also R4M non guided missile and with it improved the shooting down ratio of allied bombers. It was capable of launching 24 of them at 450m range, and when spreaded in a bomber formation produces the break of that formation and the growth of the distance between bombers. This effect led to lower the capability of cal.50 machine guns to accomplish their rules, avoiding a concentrated fire support. R4M it was not as sophisticated as Rhurstal X4, but avoid the need of guiding the missile. Also, with a working proximity fuse and a better designed warhead, it would be a formidable weapon.

@harleyme3163

7 ай бұрын

rockets..... the very word missile denotes its guided... but the american had rockets too only promblem the nazi's had was ignition.....1/4 of em just b;ew up on the wing.... disterous for a jet

@dwwolf4636

3 ай бұрын

Even unguided it upped the kill rate by ~4x.

@LostInMarxism

3 ай бұрын

​​@@harleyme3163Citation? Or I call hogwash. Many fail to know N.S.D.A P., from 1942 through the end of their war, suffered from munitions sabotage. Some laborers were sabotaging Luftwaffe munitions during production process. Surviving Luftwaffe veterans uniformly speak of such in their memoires. Read on.

Fascinating documentary! thank you.

@Dronescapes

7 ай бұрын

Thank you too!

As mentioned in the video's description not having enough fuel to run the planes was ultimately the end. If your planes can't get off the ground the only thing they're good for is strafing run target practice by your enemy. As Goring famously said, "I knew the war was lost when I saw P-51 Mustangs flying unhindered over Berlin".

@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc

9 ай бұрын

“The jig was up”?

@kevcaratacus9428

4 ай бұрын

I think it was also Goreing who said he could be called Meyer if Berlin was ever bombed. In 1940 the RAF bombed Berlin..

The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bombers were not the only bomber threat the Americans possessed. There was no mention of the Consolidated B-24 Liberator bombers, which also threatened the Fatherland and could carry more bombs than a B-17.

@B52Stratofortress1

10 ай бұрын

They were mostly equivalent types. B-24 was built in larger numbers, had a longer range and had a bigger payload. B-17 was a much more survivable airframe when damaged, had superior defensive armament from the E variant onwards and was easier to fly especially when damaged. Each type had its own niche, and the US production capacity was not negatively affected by producing two similar but different types in large numbers.

@jimfinlaw4537

10 ай бұрын

@@B52Stratofortress1 Yes, I am fully aware of the B-24 Liberator and its contributions to the war effort in Europe. My father flew a B-24D as a co-pilot in Operation Tital Wave where they bombed the Nazi Synthetic Oil Refineries at Ploesti in Romania on 1 August 1943. This was the infamous low level raid where many American bombers were lost. My father was assigned to the 512 Bomb Squadron, 376th Bomb Group, 12th Air Force stationed at Bengasi, Libya in North Africa. Unknown at the time there were two German spies at the base that had tipped off the Germans about the upcoming raid. The Germans at the target area were already fully alert with fighters and flak batteries just waiting for the B-24's to attack. There were several B-24's lost on this mission due to fighters and flak. Even my father's B-24D Liberator was hit over the target area shortly after bomb release when an 88-mm flak shell went clear through the right wing and punctured a fuel tank. Fortunately, my father was cross trained as a flight engineer on Liberators. He transferred as much fuel as possible out of the damaged fuel tank to conserve as much fuel as possible. The flight engineer was busy helping the ball turret gunner at the time because his ball turret had jambed due to desert dust getting inside the electric motor. Once fuel transfer was complete, my father resumed his co-pilot duties. He pulled the mixture controls back beyond limits from what the tech orders recommended to conserve even more fuel. My father had all four engines running on the verge of detonation. They maintained good airspeed depite the damaged right wing and were not harassed by enemy fighters. By the time they landed at their alternate air base in Italy, all four engines were junk from overheating, but the plane got them home safely despite the damage to the right wing. The mission proved to be a disaster and my father suffered from PTSD after watching several bombers being shot down around the target area and knowing there were no survivors.

@salvagedb2470

10 ай бұрын

Always an Odd one that , the B24 never got the Lime light its Boeing cousin did , they built I think 18,000 of them ..

@jimfinlaw4537

10 ай бұрын

@@salvagedb2470 Actually 18,482 B-24 Liberators were built in the United States during the war. It was the most produced American military aircraft of WWII. Its true, when the Davis wing on a B-24 became damaged, it lost efficiency very quickly. As for the B-17, it was never really designed as a strategic bomber when it was first designed in 1937. It was intended to destroy battleships, which is why it could not carry a larger payload like the B-24 Liberator. At that time, the U.S. military felt the battleship was the biggest threat to the United States and Boeing designers developed the B-17 based on that premise. What it lacked in bomb carrying capability it had to make up for in shear numbers when it was used as a strategic bomber. My father later became an instructor pilot in B-17's when he was stationed at MacDill Field in Tampa, Florida. One of the B-17's he flew in the Training Command was the famous B-17F Memphis Belle when it was assigned to the 483rd Bomb Squadron as their training aircraft after it had completed its War Bond Tour in the United States. My father was assigned as their instructor pilot. Today, the Memphis Belle has been restored to factory new condition and is on permanent static display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.

@MickCampin-jp9kb

10 ай бұрын

And of course the Afro Lancaster could carry more bombs and could fly further than a B17

A very good documentary indeed! Well done!

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

My father was a navigator on a B17 bomber. My father described the B17 as almost indestructible. The B17 could take an enormous amount of battle damage and keep flying.

When the narrator is real and bothers learning proper pronunciations and doesn't botch German words. Nicely done (this for the first half of the video only. Final parts will have Germanglish pronunciations)

Imagine walking into a forest in deepest Germany and coming across a line up of ME262s like that today...

Thank you for this video; excellent information, excellent presentation. 👍🏽

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

Eric "Winkle" Brown, British test pilot, flew the Komet and said it was a totally viceless plane that flew great. He also said that he had flown several other tailless planes planes that were just plain killers.

@mrunning10

7 ай бұрын

As long as the fuelers didn't blown the damn Komet up on the ground.

Right on. Thanks for sharing.

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

After watching this, I still think it boils down to the allies having greater numbers as opposed to tactical or technical mistakes on the Nazis part.

@theashpilez

10 ай бұрын

The war of the factories.

@bacon1564

10 ай бұрын

I'd say especially the material aid to the USSR, their numbers wouldn't have meant as much without the ability to arm, feed and transport them. I do agree that it is easy to scoff at "foolish" mistakes post hoc. Especially when there could have been other political/tactical considerations and unknowns at the time that someone on the outside doesn't have to contend with years later.

@joeyjamison5772

10 ай бұрын

“Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars.” -General John J. Pershing

@srgmiller340

10 ай бұрын

@@joeyjamison5772 And Bombing German war factories help slow down the production process and the removal of supplies guns and troops from the frontlines

@Kerrington_John

10 ай бұрын

The Allies also were technically more developed. Documentations like this one are built on myths. The Germans did have some few, cutting edge technology, but it was all neither fully developed or coming 1944/45 and in few numbers. Tiger (I) II, Me262, U-boat XII, V2, StG44 all that things were technically very poor developed and broked down very often.. It would have need around 10 years of more development. But the Allies also were developing such weapons. So, Germany was good, but not good enough.

One of my retired colleagues was a pilot in the Royal Navy based at Lossiemouth when Eric Brown was I believe the station commander. One day while on parade, he tried to salute Eric with his sword, but accidently damaged and ripped Eric's uniform. The man was less than pleased, telling Nigel "that will cost you a new greatcoat!"

@stanzanossi

8 ай бұрын

Your colleague was lucky he was not in the Russian Airforce! If a Russian pilot ripped the coat of his superior, he would be castrated and his testicles would be stuffed into his mouth while he was still alive! Maybe you can understand why the Russians kicked the Nazi's asses when they were stupid enough to invade their country!😮

Heh. It's a Robot II camera. It can be synched with a machine gun or a cannon, that's why the cables. Very interesting to see it mounted on the head like a go pro. A lot of WW2 air combat footage comes from these cameras.

Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Special thanks to veteran pilots sharing personal information/combat experiences. Enabling historians to replicate those diaries/memoirs. For viewers to better appreciate the actual fierce air battles & manufacturing of air crafts. A loud shout out to the disillusioned leadership in Berlin. Disillusioned Hitler 😈 & Goring 😈 for making the Luftwaffe a catastrophic failure. Lucky break for the allies. Had there been 50 ME 262 fighter jets 50 experienced pilots to fly them. All along with plentiful high octane fuel. The allied bombers might have been destroyed???

It's fortunate Nazi Germany had the leaders it did. It would have been really rough if they had had leaders of similar quality as those of Great Britain & the United States. I suppose the same could be said of Japan aswell.

Battle of Britain is what failed Goring, he told Hitler it would only take a week to get Rid of the RAF, he underestimated the RAF and the Spitfires and Mosquitoes.

@joeyjamison5772

10 ай бұрын

Germany wasted a HUGE amount of it's resources in a failed attempt to bomb Britain into submission.

@gordonfleming458

9 ай бұрын

Sorry no mozzies in the Battle of Britain you probably thinking of c the hurricane which was more numerous than the spitfire

@winstonsmith935

9 ай бұрын

@@gordonfleming458 you could be right, as I’m now 82 years, doesn’t matter which plane it was , they saved Britains Ass.

@markgranger9150

9 ай бұрын

The attitude that it would only take a week was not so far fetched at the time the nasties were riding A wave of success that they could hardly believe. I am not a lover of Hitler and the Nazis, but their success at the beginning of the war gave them the attitude that they couldn't lose. Radar had been around before the war ships.used it to go through fog and to range guns granted it was not the same as the British chain home radar.tha t would give you altitude. Few people thought about using it to detect planes. Parliament wanted to see if a death ray could be made and used against aircraft. Britain being the only country to experience air bombing on it's cities. Despite the early warnings when combat between fighters happened it was the Germans who usually came out on top. The Germans would have loved to nail the RAF on the ground like the other countries that Germany took. Loses were so heavy they switched to night bombing. Goering was not up to the task of leading the Luftwaffe but you can't blame him for overconfidence in the early part of the war.

@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc

9 ай бұрын

Mossies were not a thing that affected Battle of Britain at all. They were yet to be developed into the brilliant weapon they became!

Cpt. Brown was a great addition to the expert commentators.

The lack of pilots and a training program

Excellent video! As Albert Speer states in his books, the regime did not go for massproduction until 1943 for ideological reasons. Also the Me262 was not used as an interceptor for ideological reasons because defense was considered defaetistic. Herman Goering was a useless drug addict that came to his brillant mind again when the allies had him cut off drugs before his trial after the war. He probably was kept in office because AH knew from the start that there was no chance to win this anyway. Like in WWI when the Austrian Empire knew that they would not stand a chance from the beginning but would refuse to go down without a sound.

@joelashdod7712

7 ай бұрын

I disagree. Hitler thought he was a genius and could not loose. He chose incompetents like Goring because he valued loyalty over competence, since he believed his genius could overcome any obstacle.

@Orbitalresonancefrequencies

7 ай бұрын

Very true, Austria quite literally lost WW1, and if you look at their battles against the very very under equipped Russians that becomes blatantly clear 😂 it’s funny cause Italy was the same for Germany, both weren’t technologically ready for the war when it started

@johncox2865

6 ай бұрын

I think you’re wrong about Hitler. He thought he could win it right up to the moment he pulled the trigger, and may have thought that would win it for him. He was totally delusional.

@DeirdreMcNamara

6 ай бұрын

@@Orbitalresonancefrequencies Far more to that war than meets the eye.

@bdleo300

Ай бұрын

Total bs every word. Mass production has nothing to do with ideological reasons, nor it's the reason why Me262 was planed ro be used as f-b. Austro-Hungary knew they would not stand a chance??? They were eager to go to war.

Most people seem to be unaware the Germans actually lost the battle for The Hague in 1940. Losing a stunning 125 Ju 52 transporter planes and damaging 47 more. The losses were so heavy they had to bomb Rotterdam to force Dutch surrender. Losing that many airplanes probably had it's effect on the Battle of Britain that followed soon after.

@dongilleo9743

10 ай бұрын

The high loss of German transport planes and paratroopers in the Netherlands would have had a significant effect on any potential invasion attempt of England. The German airborne troops would have been a vital part of any invasion. There was no way Germany could rebuild it's transport aircraft and paratrooper numbers so quickly. The German air assault on the island of Crete in May, 1941 saw another devastating loss of transport aircraft and paratroopers. At that point, the production of transport aircraft had to take a back seat to the large number of fighters and bombers Germany needed. When the German 6th Army became encircled in Stalingrad in November 1942, the Luftwaffe didn't have the transport aircraft to keep it supplied.

@dipling.pitzler7650

9 ай бұрын

Of course the Netherlands played a great role in defeating the enemy, that is why in an act of kindness the Dutch authorities and vast parts of society were so keen to offer their collaboration in every field imaginable. LOL

@boszdekler5304

9 ай бұрын

@@dipling.pitzler7650 Sadly that is also true. But that does not include the Dutch armed forces. The Dutch that joined the SS or commi ted serious collaboration were not from the army but mainly from the police and other civl services.

@dipling.pitzler7650

9 ай бұрын

@@boszdekler5304 Every country has its blind spots and as the past can not be altered it only matters how to deal with these in the future, but for this a honest retrospective and less bragging is needed.

@boszdekler5304

9 ай бұрын

@@dipling.pitzler7650 only trying to honour the people that fought a very unequal battle and achieved much more than expected. Not their fault the Germans succeeded in occupying the country.

Lack of replacement pilots and their aeroplanes...Mr. Citino is excellent, as always...

Hitler obviously didnt bother to read Sun Tzu's " Art of War "

Despite the u-boat threat to UK, early in the war long-range convoy air cover was held back so that explosives could be dropped all over Germany, mostly countryside apparently . . .

@David-nx2vm

10 ай бұрын

to suggest that aerial ASW was sacrificed in favor of bombing ground targets on the continent is inaccurate. It’s true that German submarines had considerable success from 1939 through early 1942, but that’s not because the UK and US ignored the threat or diverted resources elsewhere. Aerial ASW was at its embryonic stage in 1939 and the UK and US were feverishly developing capabilities while using what they had to counter the threat. By mid-1942, the USAAF fielded units and technology dedicated to aerial ASW, including airborne depth charges, magnetic anomaly detection, microwave radar, and others the Germans never figured out. The RAF was actively engaged in aerial ASW before that but with mixed success. And, remember they were fighting the Battle of Britain at the same time, so I will excuse them if they were somewhat distracted. B-18 and B-24 aircraft were purposely equipped for long range aerial ASW and their crews were organized and trained for this mission - they were not poached to perform other missions. Moreover, aerial ASW was carried out in earnest well before the USAAF and RAF began the coordinated bombing campaign over the Continent in 1943. The U.S produced 12,500 bombers in 1942, and over 28,000 in 1943. There were plenty to go around. The ASW mission was not a bill-payer for the bombing mission on the Continent. It’s true that the aerial ASW crews preferred hunting submarines in the offense rather than performing convoy escort in the defense but whether performing offensive or defensive ASW missions, they were performing robust and effective aerial ASW with dedicated aircraft and purpose-trained crews. German Admiral Doenitz acknowledged it himself in a June 1943 memo.

@EllieMaes-Grandad

10 ай бұрын

@@David-nx2vm Thank you for the details, but my statement is not inaccurate. The denial of VLR aircraft to convoy work is mentioned a number of times in literature on the Battle of the Atlantic, but only mentioned, not expounded at length. Yes, by 1942 good sense had prevailed, as well as availability in quantity. It was at the introduction of LR and VLR when the attack role was chosen instead of the defensive. The Battle of Britain in SE England was not a distraction from convoy escort, even if some pilots transferred to fighters at that time. By 1942, certainly 1943, B17s and B24s were doing the job in large numbers. I referred to the early war period, when much knowledge about effective ASW was being learned. There was no 'poaching' of USAAF aircraft from missions over the continent. By the time they got going, sensible allocation of production had been effected. Looking from a U.S. perspective as you appear to do, perception of 1939/41 events is probably less sensitive than my own, the British perspective. PS Don't forget the use of Icelandic bases - UK forces went there (including my father) long before U.S. ones did . . .

@richardvernon317

10 ай бұрын

@@EllieMaes-Grandad Black Sky ASW doesn't Work!!! RAF Coastal Command tried it in early 1943 over the Bay of Biscay. They put as many aircraft as they could over the bay as possible in two one week periods and sunk jack shit. Lost aircraft to navigation failures and accidents as well. As for the VLR Liberator, the British had them in 1942!!! they got used as Transport Aircraft and Churchill used one as his personal transport.

@EllieMaes-Grandad

10 ай бұрын

@@richardvernon317 I was referring to the first few years of WW2.

@richardvernon317

10 ай бұрын

@@EllieMaes-Grandad First Year, what Coastal Command had was good enough range wise, what they didn't have was the sensors or the weapons that worked. Where Aircraft really started to make a mark was mid 1942, but that was short lived because of Metox. Only in May 1943 did the aircraft start to rack up the kills because the weapons and sensors (plus intelligence) became really effective. You actually had more chance of hitting something important in Germany for number of hours flown than finding and sinking a U-boat before mid 1942. Plus anyhow, Bomber Command spend a lot of bombs and effort in attacking stuff in France in 1941 and 42 like German Warships.

Göering is singlehandedly one of the main 3 causes of Germany's defeat...

@marcusjohnson6412

9 ай бұрын

Amen to that. Screwed up at Dunkirk. Completely botched the Battle of Britain and somehow convinced everyone he could airlift all resources into Stalingrad.

@pkfryer

Ай бұрын

90% of germans failure was Hitler

@pkfryer

Ай бұрын

​@@marcusjohnson6412you sound disappointed that evil failed. Me thinks maybe you are a neonazi

@bdleo300

Ай бұрын

No he is not. Just another WW2 myth.

Adolph pushing the left wing of that ME-109 at 13:19

My dad was in ww2 and I ❤your documentaries ❤there are so informative and entertaining 👏 😄 please do a video on operation barbarossa 🎉🎉keep safe and God bless ❤️

BIGGEST LUFTWAFFE MISTAKE: Not shooting Hitler and Goering in the head in 1938.

@markgranger9150

9 ай бұрын

Germany would not have gone to war if not for Hitler. In the start of Germany's road to world conflict,Hitler had predicted the other countries actions. He won territory without fighting. When fighting started Poland and France went better than planned. Lucky for the rest of the world his second half of his leadership was not even up to a fight with anyone. How are you going to get rid Of a guy who is popular and is on a streak?

@richardharmon647

6 ай бұрын

Your reply made me chuckle😊

No oil.

Back in 1980 I worked with halve a dozen extremely talented German electrician & mechanics Installing a state of the art $10 million machine. None of them would admit that they are their company could make a mistake. Case in point we purchased a $5,000 pre stretched metric chain from them but it did not have a constant distance on links. They would not believe the option of our two best machnists that measured the chain so they flew a mechanic over from Germany a few days later and within a few minutes their guy said that chain was detective.

The problem was overworked. They went full on the Invasion of Poland, then the battle of France, the Battle of Britain, then the Mediterranean, and the Invasion of Crete, then the Operation Barbarossa, Malta, the battle in the Mediterranean again, then the defense against Allied bombers against the Reich, etc. By the Invasion of Normandy, they were a spent force. At that time of the Normandy Invasion, the Allies could field 5,000 fighters and bombers, the Germans only 200. The Germans had to field 40 percent of their fighters against Allied bombers destroying Germany itself and the rest against the Soviets who field several thousand fighters.

Good overview, but a little dated regarding the 262. To their credit they didn't come out and say it, but alluded to Hitler keeping the 262 from being an interceptor. We now know that was not true. However, they very accurately pointed out that the Do-335 was not just the fastest twin-engined fighter, but the fastest piston-engined fighter period. THAT was truly a failure of the Luftwaffe. The 262 also accurately shows how deeply Hitler was fixated on trivial matters better left to O5s and O4s.

@richardvernon317

10 ай бұрын

Me-262's biggest issue was the Engines were not ready until mid 1944 (even in the limited life span versions that were produced).

@grumblesa10

10 ай бұрын

@@richardvernon317 Exactly, and with slave labor requiring extensive quality-control. Not to mention the lack of fuel.

1) The Luftwaffe never seriously tried to develop the sort of four-engine heavy-bomber that would be needed across the vast distances of the Eastern Front, and, conceivably, one day against the United States. 2) Early on in the war Germany’s vast military apparatus began to run short on absolutely crucial raw materials such as fuel. 3) Bc of the early successes of dive bombers such as the JU-87 in the Spanish Civil War and in Poland, an absurd emphasis was placed on all subsequent German bombers that they too should be able to dive-bomb--this produced several “jacks of all trades,” which were competent, but *excelled* at none of the several roles they were expected to fill. 4) Germany’s Luftwaffe never had an integrated, early-warning, air-defense *SYSTEM* such as that developed by Dowding in Britain for the protection against mass, round-the clock (eventually well-escorted) fleets of bombers such as the Halifax, Avro Lancaster, and zUs B-17 Flying Fortresses carpet-bombing German cities. 5) And, finally, Germany invested far too much time, energy, resources, and effort into projects it swiftly abandoned (such as “The German Mosquito”). Even the projects that could be made to work such as the ME 262 jet (“Schwalbe”) could be produced in too small quantities, were often unreliable bc of characteristic German over-engineering; and bc of resentful slave-labour Germany was using in its underground, cramped, and dark production facilities late bc Allied bombing had destroyed most surface complexes.

@janskovjensen

10 ай бұрын

Fore engine cut altso have a inpact on the war i the Atlantic theatre

@charlesfaure1189

10 ай бұрын

1) is one of those tales ginned up by bad historians that continues to influence minds. The bombing campaigns against Germany took years and vast numbers of bombers and escort fighters to become effective, with enormous costs in money, fuel, and aircrew lives. The Germans didn't have the resources to maintain the force they had. Shortages kept the Bf 109 in service beyond its peak because the Germans couldn't afford to replace it. An effective heavy bomber force, not to mention escort fighters, was never an option.

@MrMalvolio29

10 ай бұрын

@@charlesfaure1189 , there’s no reason to bo so aggressive and insulting. I assure you: many, many historians of Weimar and pre-WWII Germany have pointed out *precisely* what I pointed out about the Luftwaffe’s lack of interest in developing a four-engine heavy-bomber. OF COURSE as the war dragged on past 1942 the shortages (WHICH I *MENTIONED* IN MY ORIGINAL POST) made it more and more difficult for Germany to succeed at this; yet if all the money and resources WASTED on “wonder weapons” and obvious OFFENSIVE weapons (such as the Sturmtiger) when Germany was clearly fighting a DEFENSIVE war after 1943 had been spent on developing a heavy bomber fleet (rather than more and more dive-bombing-capable/ground support/jacks of all trades) Germany would at least have been paying attention to their own experts, such as Walther Wever, who had said Germany would *never* have the ability to defeat the USSR in an all-out war unless it used STRATEGIC BOMBING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE *ONLY* IF GERMANY DEVELOPED AND USED A FLEET OF HEAVY, FOUR-ENGINE BOMBERS TO TRAVERSE THE VAST DISTANCES OF THE SOVIET INTERIOR. If Wever had not died in a plane crash before the war, perhaps Germany’s massive and fatal over-dedication to the concept of the Schnellbomber could have been forestalled.

great video. but why... why the bad audio??

Excelente documental. Lo recomiendo completamente😊

@Dronescapes

7 ай бұрын

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There shouldn't be any big or long thoughts concerning German strength on every field. You cannot win when you go against the greatest industrial giants in the world combined, it's just not possible.

@thomashazlewood4658

6 ай бұрын

That's not precisely true. Both the Soviets and the British were in dire condition. The British were at least Germany's equal in industry and the Soviets were actually superior, yet they were both facing destruction for a while. The clincher was the untouchable industries in the US that supported both. Had Germany left Japan to face the US alone, instead of declaring war on the US, it might still have beaten the Soviets, while the US expended its war efforts on Japan, alone. The British, by themselves, could not have prosecuted the strategic bombing campaign.

One nation against three superpowers, I think that’s it.

@joeyjamison5772

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, they were fools to let the war spread to multiple fronts. The US fought on 2 fronts, but we had those 2 gigantic oceans to protect us.

@KillerofWestoids

9 ай бұрын

Three empires against a country smaller than Texas.

@sonnymp1337

9 ай бұрын

​@@KillerofWestoidsif you put it that way, Germany did really really well

@georgebarnes8163

9 ай бұрын

Certainly more than one nation, there were several countries assisting the Nazis

@stanzanossi

8 ай бұрын

​@@georgebarnes8163 Exactly so!!!Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Poland, Czechoslovakia, many Caribbean countries, India, and the list goes on and on! Good for you to point this out!😊

4 tom1n [22:00] is an understatement Aklmot all of the German aircraft production was single or to a lesser extent 2-engine aircraft. A substantial proportion of American and British production was 4-engine heavy bombers.

Great Britain messed up by never Knighting CPT Brown. He holds a world record still not broken today

The second half of this video doesn't relate to the title. It be longs in s separate video

@foxtrot312

10 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. Great content however

Well, as German born in 1960 I had to understand my countries past and make sense of it. I have thought about almost every of these aspects and tried to figure how we could have won. After many, many sessions over many years I came to conclusion. There are, in my humble opinion, three reasons why we lost this war. And the third is the most convincing you will see. First, we should not have prosecuted the Judes and other “non-Arian” Germans. Before nazi power, these people have been proud members of our society contributing to all areas of society, most know for their contribution to science. Second, attacking Russia without piece on other fronts. Well. Third, starting this war to begin with. By no measure we could have won this.

@joaoleaolyrio9217

6 ай бұрын

Führer intended to Win the War with the "blitz" . . . didn't have Power to maintain a Great War !

@kevcaratacus9428

4 ай бұрын

Im english i believe If Hitler left his General's to do their jobs and not interfered Things would've been very different. The RAF was 90% destroyed and almost had nowhere left to use re taking off or landing But before finishing the job Hitler ordered the Luftwaffe to switch and bomb London and other non military targets ( citys) Giving the RAF time to relocate and build more fighters. Without them we would have lost the battle of Britain and been invaded by German troops who were ready and waiting across the channel. That was 1940 2 years before Hitler declared war on the USA. If Britain had been invaded the USA would have definitely signed agreements to not interfere with German rule in Europe. ..without British merchant navy supplying Russia with weapons, tanks, and everything else they needed Hitler would have easily defeated Russia . ..then I think German scientists would have finished their design of long range fuel cells and and created a devastating version of the V2 Built squadrons of jet fighters. Built rocket bases and other military installations on western Ireland and launched rockets at and destroyed new York Washington & with tirpitz and the others plus fuel ships crossed the Atlantic and destroyed all US factories and major city's and within a year or less the USA would have to surrender or be wiped out Leaving Germany to rule everything. ..but he did interfere and that's why Germany lost the war .

@douglemay7989

Ай бұрын

Using so much manpower to exterminate people and control populations in over run countries was costly. The rest of the World is thankful that Hitler was taking all of those drugs.

One of the major differences in training doctrine between the US and the Luftwaffe is that the US sent it's best fighter pilots back to the states to become insructors so the next wave of pilots had learned from our best whereas the Luftwaffe kept their best pilots in the front line operational units. When these pilots were shot down and were either killed or captured their knowledge and experience was lost leaving their next wave of pilots without that knowledge.

This was very educational

The only fatal mistake was invading Poland; from then onwards they were living on borrowed time. Their complete failure in the Battle of Britain in 1940 was a sign of what was to come. By the time it was necessary to take on the USSR as well as the British Empire it was Game Over. The US joining the war in 1942 was merely a "pile on".

@Zeguyfromgermany

9 ай бұрын

Mistake number two: Allowing themselves (Hitler, who else?) being successfully baited hook, line and sinker to shift focus from the British airfields and air defences in the Battle of Britain to the British cities after the more or less symbolic bombing of Berlin at 25 August 1940. Mistake number three: Attacking the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941. Until this point, Stalin had been a passive ally to Hitler, providing Germany with oil, chrome and Mangan and grain.

@markgranger9150

9 ай бұрын

The U S came in late but they were more than a pile on. Fighting on two different fronts and supplying Russia and England with materials at the same time is something none of the other countries could dream of. The russians were losing entire armies and the British Expeditionary force left France and their equipment. Europe would still be at war if the russians and British were Hitler's only enemies. It was 1941 when the U S piled on.

Not long before, Mike.

Great Vid and a bonus with Eric Winkle Brown , whatever this Man says goe's..

Terrific video!

Interresting that the ME 262 only last abaut 25 hour, thats new to me

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

Or as low as 15 if the pilot was not really that good!

@foxtrot312

10 ай бұрын

I was taught 25 hours was the rebuild time.

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

10 hours overhaul, 25 hours scrap time, if the pilot was very good at nursing the engine, otherwise those hours were even less, down to even 15 hours of scrap time. Very poor reliability compared to Whittle’s 100 hours of overhaul. Those engines took another decade of development to become good, and by the way, Britain had been working on them all along as well, although they did not deem them as essential during the war, as Germans did. It waste a waste of time, and resources for Germany, as those engine proved to be utterly useless at the time. One more mistake they made. On the other hand, as Eric Brown testified, the aircraft itself was great.

@joeyjamison5772

10 ай бұрын

Modern jet engine: 3,000 hours or more.

As if the ME163 was not fast enough, they faired the tailwheel to make it more aerodynamically efficient. 😂

I wonder what the wright brothers would think about how important and how deadly planes have become

Nice! Thanks for great content.

@Dronescapes

10 ай бұрын

🙂🙏