Notes: Watch #s 6, 10 and 80 on Japan (not 88, which looks like 80 on this poor resolution). Kurono, Matsuno and Kichikawa. (Commentators only mentioned the first two, but a casual push pass reset is enough to show Kichikawa's skill. 11:58. I counted 4 goals and 3 assists for him this game... And just look at this guy, 34:55.) 1:36, Canadian roster 2:04, Japan roster 5:28, Handler reset at attacking endzone on forced sideline. Probably a 30+ yard reset! 5:53, I wouldn't call this a handler dominator, but it's the 4 players in the handler space that score this point. Guy at top left gets the goal. It's sort of just a string of open side handler give-gos, with one handler strike. - This is also an instance of using the width of the field, playing through the open side. 7:25, Canada take advantage of some sloppy Japanese defense. Cut off screen is what's key. Guy probably acts like he's clearing to the break/hammer side, so no mark plays tight, then uses that separation to strike deep, and with great timing, just as 91 receives the disc. 9:11, Play where whole team is behind disc *9:48, Canada beaten on open side. Yeesh. The defender didn't even need to orbit again after the first throw. He was on the right side. He just got caught watching the disc and lost two steps to his check. - Don't get caught watching the disc with your back to your check. 11:25, here the Japan defender gets beat by just following the cutter. Doesn't maintain open side position. If a cutter cuts to the breakside, let him, and cover the open side. Don't just trail like a brainless follower. The only plus that came from this is that Japan could quickly maintain the force. However, that didn't pan out. The mark was broken immediately. 15:00, Watch the Japan defender fail to defend his check and gets scored on. The second in the stack, who becomes first here, moves to the break side and to almost the back of the stack. The D doesn't know what to do with that cut as the disc moves to the opposite side of his mark's direction of cut, so he ends up watching the disc and then trailing his check. 16:40, I like this cut, the way 6 gets open despite the Canadian defender already behind covering the deep cut. Very explosive, and with a little fake under. Kichikawa doesn't throw likely because there's a poach off-screen. 16:46, Interesting that this point is scored and assisted by the two handlers without the disc at the top of the screen at this point. Canada just doesn't expect it and can't keep up with their explosiveness. 26:30, backhand force EZO. Despite the travel call, still a good instance of this. Restart at 27:07 is similar, but choosing not to iso the front. 30:52, give-go turnover 34:36, I like the flow on this point. Huck fake draws out a poach. Kichikawa is free. He get it, throws and goes. His mark is left behind. And he scores. 36:15, Japan chooses not to play defense?? Easy point for Canada... 39:05, similar to last Japanese goal. Cut comes from a different area, but same idea. Is ahead of his defender at the same point on the field, with the disc at the same point too. Lovely cut. 40:29, Nice set play, huck just wasn't dialed in. 42:59, that's worked before (where the second throw, not thrown here, would've assisted a goal). Seen it in another game. Canada does a great job here of getting back into position after a break side give-go. 44:05, nice EZO work. 46:15, *Second half* 47:49, play where everyone is behind disc 49:20, Kurono deep cut, defender with back to him 51:44, EZO set after timeout 53:45, great switch, and a reason why vert can be hard to generate open deep strikes *54:46, WFDF rules allow offense to keep possession on a turnover if a pick is called... >.> 57:03, Japan zone D 59:00, Nice lefty backhand assist 1:00:09, Canada Zone D 1:02:26, Japan zone D 1:04:40, whole team behind disc 1:07:30, Canada side stack pull play works 1:11:01, EZO, the D on this play is interesting to note. An inaccurate throw, but only D'd because of a poach, which only happened because of lack of isolation cutting. 1:11:10, whole team behind disc 1:11:51, This goal and the next (1:14:23), despite being for each team, are remarkably similar. The guy who ends up scoring first gets looked off, clears out but turns that into an S cut, and their D never repositions onto the open side. 1:15:08, great example of how to clear, ie by checking what's happening around you. Tsang chose the right time _not_ to cut _and_ when to cut. 1:17:40, that's really good vert stack FOS D! 1:17:48, Endzone D positioning on a vert stack is hard. Stay close to your check. 1:22:29, same issue as last point, endzone D positioning on a vert stack is hard. Stay closer to your check. 1:24:22, tough way to lose a close game! Handler resets Break side 5:28 5:38 9:24 and very next one too (9:29) 11:58 12:09 14:01 19:55 23:47 30:29, failed to hit the break side 30:45 42:59, give-go 43:13 43:19, almost D'd 43:32 44:05, D so far away from the receiver that this was an easy pass. Not great for the defense as it was right in front of the endzone 47:17 54:40, also a nice give-go 1:03:35, dropped 1:04:29, breakside give-go? (Looks a lot like a backfield open side give-go, but much harder and not as speedy) 1:13:48, 1:14:18 1:16:19, shut down by mark 1:22:20, ~give-go. With a sweet lefty inside break. 1:24:22, turns into a handler strike Open side reset Upline 9:49 30:25 1:14:23, leads to a score 1:17:32, is this technically "upline"? Backfield 11:22 43:39 47:23 53:32 1:02:59 1:14:12 1:21:44, but with some clogging first Open side give-go 43:29, shut down with a switch 43:47 1:04:53, for another angle see 1:05:45 1:10:56, shut down 1:11:23, shut down with a switch Defended/failed 14:05 1:21:27, D'd
@KoGaWataru
4 ай бұрын
I think one of the less-identified patterns used a lot in Japanese ultimate is what's called the "Yamato" (you'll hear it called a lot by the Japan side in some games). It's a fake strike cut to the open side to cut back across in front of the disc for an inside flick so the receiver then basically has a clean break-side to pass into. If the defender doesn't bite on the strike, they'll take the short strike pass or keep going for something deep. If the defender keeps up with the strike(which most high level defenders will do) they'll make the "Yamato" cut across to receive an IO and attack the break side.
@rheggieThinks7 жыл бұрын
Such great game! The Japanese system is a beast; their speed and accuracy is hard to contend with. They break marks all day...
@cooldawg20097 жыл бұрын
great game. Awesome spirit improvement by Canada! These teams are always great match ups
@maoyagi85207 жыл бұрын
I am fully Japanese but live in Canada. Interesting to watch
@sleeptime54642 жыл бұрын
Looks like an improvement. At least Canada didn't tackle the shit out of the Japanese this time.
@StewartChaimson7 жыл бұрын
Great game to watch!
@johngreenfield58607 жыл бұрын
Love this game. Japan wasn't that sharp in the first half but Canada was playing great D. Really impressed with Mark Loyd. Sure he'd like to have that final D bid again but he was a game breaker throughout, plus he had good spirit on call resolutions. Canada Open have come full circle from their game against Japan in 2012.
@omrijoker
7 жыл бұрын
yes he was terrific this game. should have tried to swat it down on that last play
@EugeneTolmachev
3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't full circle bring you back where you started?
@dennis3dlu7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I wish they would shut up about the point japan "gave up". Strategically, I believe it's so japan doesnt have to worry about the deep game from full field hucks. It's a gamble, but when you aren't as tall as the other team, I think it's a valid tactic.
@picoescasa7823
5 жыл бұрын
They also did this in another game against the US. You can actually see a quick analysis on that by Felix ultimate who does some interesting analyses on games and strategies.
@sonyafeinberg73787 жыл бұрын
1:19:30 right after the deep shot puts Japan on the endzone line, and the defender puts on a mark on the thrower, you hear presumably Canada's side lines yelling fall back and then peel off in total hysteria right before the open cutter gets the goal. Canada really wanted to rally.
@shahrun19526 жыл бұрын
Between harris and "the japanese player" wow okay
@danielgajohnson7 жыл бұрын
Is the lefty backhand from Underhill at 59:57 a travel? I think it is. He established his left foot as his pivot point, and then clearly changed when he threw the pass.
@Qazwode
7 жыл бұрын
After watching it in slowmo, I think that there could be a case that it is, but it would be a Canadian call.
@tetranome2982
6 жыл бұрын
Nah you can throw either hand, but you just can't shift that pivot foot during possession.
@darrensmith90356 жыл бұрын
Christ were any of the Japanese passes off target by even an inch? Just pinpoint all day.
@baberiel4 жыл бұрын
man that call against lloyd around 1:10:00 is total bull. i understand where kichikawa was coming from but in the replay you can clearly see the disk was out of his hand before lloyd made contact
@sonyafeinberg73787 жыл бұрын
1:25:20 on replay mark Losseau (a canadian player, anyway) gets a layout block on Japan's huck. Unfortunately he mac's in up and forward, he's rotating over in his bid, sees where the disc is going and just buries his head in his hands while the Japanese player calmly walks to the reception for the game. What's Mark thinking? I could've caught that? Could I have?
@stevenp4230
7 жыл бұрын
Thats Mark Lloyd btw
@AsianVideoGamer
3 жыл бұрын
He probably knew he screwed up and lost the game... That's why he put his hands on his head...
@dchen3454 жыл бұрын
Even when the disc don't lie and Japan throws the disc away, Canada can't convert.
@hervelasica44737 жыл бұрын
Assurance et sécurité un sport dans le vent. Les protections sont légères voire inexistantes, une communication au sommet. La natation et la vitesse n' ont qu 'à bien se tenir. Un nouveau sport UNSS avec le roller blade. Un sport à ne pas mettre pas mettre dans la rue. Assiduité et spectateur un sport qui plait à la fédération d 'athlétisme. Difficile pour les handicapées.
@aaronvandeweghe89376 жыл бұрын
Japan's O line handler with the hat (number 2) almost always travels on his low bachand breaks. He uses his left foot to create space before pivotting. Frustrating...
@tusharjamwal
Жыл бұрын
interesting, I didn't notice it... maybe he does it in a way that's inconspicuous so as not to get called
@cooldawg20097 жыл бұрын
THAT continuation ruling @ 40:10 is wrong. There is a limit to where the disc stays after a foul has been called. Continuation rule states that if an infraction is called: For calls made by a non-thrower: *If the team that committed the infraction has possession*: If the infraction affected the play (XVI.C.3), play stops and the disc reverts to the thrower unless the specific rule says otherwise. If the infraction did not affect the play, *play stops* and the *result of the play* stands. That means that you get only one continuation after the throw comes off because play stops as soon as disc is released. The ruling on the field was correct. Going back and looking at it, the disc was in the air when the pick was called, so the result of THAT throw is where the play stopped. And that's the point they sent it back to.
@dadude2140
4 жыл бұрын
That's USAU rules. Worlds are played on WFDF
@user-st6eq5yu7n4 жыл бұрын
yamato
@user-st6eq5yu7n
4 жыл бұрын
9:35
@ichan1907
3 жыл бұрын
51:45
@flyheavenify5 жыл бұрын
hahah 1:09:50 clearly lloyd touches his hand right after he released the disc...but then oh well, karma ssa bitch, still a turnover after it was a contested foul :'))))
Пікірлер: 34
Notes: Watch #s 6, 10 and 80 on Japan (not 88, which looks like 80 on this poor resolution). Kurono, Matsuno and Kichikawa. (Commentators only mentioned the first two, but a casual push pass reset is enough to show Kichikawa's skill. 11:58. I counted 4 goals and 3 assists for him this game... And just look at this guy, 34:55.) 1:36, Canadian roster 2:04, Japan roster 5:28, Handler reset at attacking endzone on forced sideline. Probably a 30+ yard reset! 5:53, I wouldn't call this a handler dominator, but it's the 4 players in the handler space that score this point. Guy at top left gets the goal. It's sort of just a string of open side handler give-gos, with one handler strike. - This is also an instance of using the width of the field, playing through the open side. 7:25, Canada take advantage of some sloppy Japanese defense. Cut off screen is what's key. Guy probably acts like he's clearing to the break/hammer side, so no mark plays tight, then uses that separation to strike deep, and with great timing, just as 91 receives the disc. 9:11, Play where whole team is behind disc *9:48, Canada beaten on open side. Yeesh. The defender didn't even need to orbit again after the first throw. He was on the right side. He just got caught watching the disc and lost two steps to his check. - Don't get caught watching the disc with your back to your check. 11:25, here the Japan defender gets beat by just following the cutter. Doesn't maintain open side position. If a cutter cuts to the breakside, let him, and cover the open side. Don't just trail like a brainless follower. The only plus that came from this is that Japan could quickly maintain the force. However, that didn't pan out. The mark was broken immediately. 15:00, Watch the Japan defender fail to defend his check and gets scored on. The second in the stack, who becomes first here, moves to the break side and to almost the back of the stack. The D doesn't know what to do with that cut as the disc moves to the opposite side of his mark's direction of cut, so he ends up watching the disc and then trailing his check. 16:40, I like this cut, the way 6 gets open despite the Canadian defender already behind covering the deep cut. Very explosive, and with a little fake under. Kichikawa doesn't throw likely because there's a poach off-screen. 16:46, Interesting that this point is scored and assisted by the two handlers without the disc at the top of the screen at this point. Canada just doesn't expect it and can't keep up with their explosiveness. 26:30, backhand force EZO. Despite the travel call, still a good instance of this. Restart at 27:07 is similar, but choosing not to iso the front. 30:52, give-go turnover 34:36, I like the flow on this point. Huck fake draws out a poach. Kichikawa is free. He get it, throws and goes. His mark is left behind. And he scores. 36:15, Japan chooses not to play defense?? Easy point for Canada... 39:05, similar to last Japanese goal. Cut comes from a different area, but same idea. Is ahead of his defender at the same point on the field, with the disc at the same point too. Lovely cut. 40:29, Nice set play, huck just wasn't dialed in. 42:59, that's worked before (where the second throw, not thrown here, would've assisted a goal). Seen it in another game. Canada does a great job here of getting back into position after a break side give-go. 44:05, nice EZO work. 46:15, *Second half* 47:49, play where everyone is behind disc 49:20, Kurono deep cut, defender with back to him 51:44, EZO set after timeout 53:45, great switch, and a reason why vert can be hard to generate open deep strikes *54:46, WFDF rules allow offense to keep possession on a turnover if a pick is called... >.> 57:03, Japan zone D 59:00, Nice lefty backhand assist 1:00:09, Canada Zone D 1:02:26, Japan zone D 1:04:40, whole team behind disc 1:07:30, Canada side stack pull play works 1:11:01, EZO, the D on this play is interesting to note. An inaccurate throw, but only D'd because of a poach, which only happened because of lack of isolation cutting. 1:11:10, whole team behind disc 1:11:51, This goal and the next (1:14:23), despite being for each team, are remarkably similar. The guy who ends up scoring first gets looked off, clears out but turns that into an S cut, and their D never repositions onto the open side. 1:15:08, great example of how to clear, ie by checking what's happening around you. Tsang chose the right time _not_ to cut _and_ when to cut. 1:17:40, that's really good vert stack FOS D! 1:17:48, Endzone D positioning on a vert stack is hard. Stay close to your check. 1:22:29, same issue as last point, endzone D positioning on a vert stack is hard. Stay closer to your check. 1:24:22, tough way to lose a close game! Handler resets Break side 5:28 5:38 9:24 and very next one too (9:29) 11:58 12:09 14:01 19:55 23:47 30:29, failed to hit the break side 30:45 42:59, give-go 43:13 43:19, almost D'd 43:32 44:05, D so far away from the receiver that this was an easy pass. Not great for the defense as it was right in front of the endzone 47:17 54:40, also a nice give-go 1:03:35, dropped 1:04:29, breakside give-go? (Looks a lot like a backfield open side give-go, but much harder and not as speedy) 1:13:48, 1:14:18 1:16:19, shut down by mark 1:22:20, ~give-go. With a sweet lefty inside break. 1:24:22, turns into a handler strike Open side reset Upline 9:49 30:25 1:14:23, leads to a score 1:17:32, is this technically "upline"? Backfield 11:22 43:39 47:23 53:32 1:02:59 1:14:12 1:21:44, but with some clogging first Open side give-go 43:29, shut down with a switch 43:47 1:04:53, for another angle see 1:05:45 1:10:56, shut down 1:11:23, shut down with a switch Defended/failed 14:05 1:21:27, D'd
@KoGaWataru
4 ай бұрын
I think one of the less-identified patterns used a lot in Japanese ultimate is what's called the "Yamato" (you'll hear it called a lot by the Japan side in some games). It's a fake strike cut to the open side to cut back across in front of the disc for an inside flick so the receiver then basically has a clean break-side to pass into. If the defender doesn't bite on the strike, they'll take the short strike pass or keep going for something deep. If the defender keeps up with the strike(which most high level defenders will do) they'll make the "Yamato" cut across to receive an IO and attack the break side.
Such great game! The Japanese system is a beast; their speed and accuracy is hard to contend with. They break marks all day...
great game. Awesome spirit improvement by Canada! These teams are always great match ups
I am fully Japanese but live in Canada. Interesting to watch
Looks like an improvement. At least Canada didn't tackle the shit out of the Japanese this time.
Great game to watch!
Love this game. Japan wasn't that sharp in the first half but Canada was playing great D. Really impressed with Mark Loyd. Sure he'd like to have that final D bid again but he was a game breaker throughout, plus he had good spirit on call resolutions. Canada Open have come full circle from their game against Japan in 2012.
@omrijoker
7 жыл бұрын
yes he was terrific this game. should have tried to swat it down on that last play
@EugeneTolmachev
3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't full circle bring you back where you started?
Wow, I wish they would shut up about the point japan "gave up". Strategically, I believe it's so japan doesnt have to worry about the deep game from full field hucks. It's a gamble, but when you aren't as tall as the other team, I think it's a valid tactic.
@picoescasa7823
5 жыл бұрын
They also did this in another game against the US. You can actually see a quick analysis on that by Felix ultimate who does some interesting analyses on games and strategies.
1:19:30 right after the deep shot puts Japan on the endzone line, and the defender puts on a mark on the thrower, you hear presumably Canada's side lines yelling fall back and then peel off in total hysteria right before the open cutter gets the goal. Canada really wanted to rally.
Between harris and "the japanese player" wow okay
Is the lefty backhand from Underhill at 59:57 a travel? I think it is. He established his left foot as his pivot point, and then clearly changed when he threw the pass.
@Qazwode
7 жыл бұрын
After watching it in slowmo, I think that there could be a case that it is, but it would be a Canadian call.
@tetranome2982
6 жыл бұрын
Nah you can throw either hand, but you just can't shift that pivot foot during possession.
Christ were any of the Japanese passes off target by even an inch? Just pinpoint all day.
man that call against lloyd around 1:10:00 is total bull. i understand where kichikawa was coming from but in the replay you can clearly see the disk was out of his hand before lloyd made contact
1:25:20 on replay mark Losseau (a canadian player, anyway) gets a layout block on Japan's huck. Unfortunately he mac's in up and forward, he's rotating over in his bid, sees where the disc is going and just buries his head in his hands while the Japanese player calmly walks to the reception for the game. What's Mark thinking? I could've caught that? Could I have?
@stevenp4230
7 жыл бұрын
Thats Mark Lloyd btw
@AsianVideoGamer
3 жыл бұрын
He probably knew he screwed up and lost the game... That's why he put his hands on his head...
Even when the disc don't lie and Japan throws the disc away, Canada can't convert.
Assurance et sécurité un sport dans le vent. Les protections sont légères voire inexistantes, une communication au sommet. La natation et la vitesse n' ont qu 'à bien se tenir. Un nouveau sport UNSS avec le roller blade. Un sport à ne pas mettre pas mettre dans la rue. Assiduité et spectateur un sport qui plait à la fédération d 'athlétisme. Difficile pour les handicapées.
Japan's O line handler with the hat (number 2) almost always travels on his low bachand breaks. He uses his left foot to create space before pivotting. Frustrating...
@tusharjamwal
Жыл бұрын
interesting, I didn't notice it... maybe he does it in a way that's inconspicuous so as not to get called
THAT continuation ruling @ 40:10 is wrong. There is a limit to where the disc stays after a foul has been called. Continuation rule states that if an infraction is called: For calls made by a non-thrower: *If the team that committed the infraction has possession*: If the infraction affected the play (XVI.C.3), play stops and the disc reverts to the thrower unless the specific rule says otherwise. If the infraction did not affect the play, *play stops* and the *result of the play* stands. That means that you get only one continuation after the throw comes off because play stops as soon as disc is released. The ruling on the field was correct. Going back and looking at it, the disc was in the air when the pick was called, so the result of THAT throw is where the play stopped. And that's the point they sent it back to.
@dadude2140
4 жыл бұрын
That's USAU rules. Worlds are played on WFDF
yamato
@user-st6eq5yu7n
4 жыл бұрын
9:35
@ichan1907
3 жыл бұрын
51:45
hahah 1:09:50 clearly lloyd touches his hand right after he released the disc...but then oh well, karma ssa bitch, still a turnover after it was a contested foul :'))))