Wound Treatment: Clay & Essential Oils Organic Poultry: Serious cockerel/rooster damage to a hen

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Every year we look after our neighbours' animals and birds when they go on holiday. As most of these are not used to being handled, there is no real strong bond of trust and particularly between us and them, who only have real contact with them for three weeks in the year. Therefore when an incident occurs it can be quite a challenge to remedy, albeit basic first aid or emergency medical care. Even the administering of an electrolyte for shock can be quite an ordeal. Fortunately, however, a domesticated bird's keen intelligence and ability to assess a situation makes it appreciate that you have its best interests at heart. Detailed written version holistic-hen.blogspot.com/201... #naturalwoundhealingpoultry #ClayWoundTreatment #essentialoilsforpoultry
Home-made Wound Wash Recipe:
A quantity of warmed mineral water (approx 150ml or ¼ of a pint) to which I add the following essential oils: -
5 drops of True Lavender (Lavandula angustifolia)
2 drops of Tea Tree (Melaleuca alternifolia).
How to make a Chicken Saddle/Coat: holistic-hen.blogspot.com/201...
Swish the water and oils about using an organic cotton bud to get a (sort of ) solution and apply with organic cotton wool.
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  • @magandmick
    @magandmick Жыл бұрын

    Your kindness radiates. What a wonderful world it would be with more Sues! ❤

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there, great to hear from you and what an amazing comment. You totally made my day! Much love, Sue xx

  • @RusticByNature
    @RusticByNature Жыл бұрын

    Very nice Well done. Sorry about the hen that did not make it.

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Rustic and thanks so much for your comments, much appreciated. Yes, that was so sad and why in general with wounds even as bad as this, I don't find them particularly worrying because birds have amazing powers of physical restoration and recovery. However, it is their nervous systems that always bothers me and why I initially try to 'reboot' that and calm the bird down. Sadly these two were market purchases, so industrially raised chicks bought at point-of-lay andit can take much longer for even their keepers to get a bond of trust, nevermind with us, who are to all intent and purpose strangers. All the very best from rainy Normandie, Sue xx

  • @magnoliaweathershield443
    @magnoliaweathershield443 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your video. Always your compassion and knowledge is evident

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there and how lovely to hear from you! Your words have made my day! All the very best from Normandie, Sue xx

  • @MissusWhoDoesStuff
    @MissusWhoDoesStuff Жыл бұрын

    Another great video Sue - I've just sent some of my followers your way, you've been a great wealth of knowledge over the years.

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there Judie, great to hear from you! Thank you so much for your lovely comments, they are very much appreciated, similarly for the recommendations! I could very much say the same about your channel and sites, you have so many incredibly informative videos and your knowledge of organic go-to products is unsurpassed - I often use and pass on your recommendations, tips and recipes. All the very best from, today at least, sunny Normandie, Sue xx

  • @chefevilee9377
    @chefevilee9377 Жыл бұрын

    I have not seen any of your videos in so long. I was just thinking about you the other day. I was so happy to see a video of yours pop up! This was always one of my favorite videos as to how to mend a chicken with this clay. Genius, pure genius.

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Chef Evi for your lovely words, they made my day! I have been in the process of upping our food production both for us and the birds, so have been busy outside and away from the computer for several months. However, I'm almost at the stage of leaving everything to grow now, so will begin producing films again, possibly even as soon as tomorrow. Clay is truly a brilliant substance and I never fail to marvel at what it can do, no matter how many times I use it! All the very best from sunny Normandie, Sue xx

  • @ericsplace3004
    @ericsplace300415 күн бұрын

    Great video! What kind of clay do you use?

  • @lupealmaguer9759
    @lupealmaguer97598 ай бұрын

    Watching from Texas. Mineral water is Natural Spring water? Over here mineral water is carbonated water.

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    8 ай бұрын

    Hi there, yes mineral water = natural spring water. It's just here in France the tap water is of such poor quality and way over the limit on residues of agricultural chemicals etc.,. that you wouldn't want it anywhere near a wound - never mind wanting to drink it! All the very best Sue

  • @deborahmartin9672
    @deborahmartin96723 ай бұрын

    Is there a way for me to send you photos with advice please? My Large 21 week old 3 Cornish Cross hens have big open wounds under their feathers where the rooster was digging in whilst mounting and I would imagine they should heal by themselves but just want to make sure incase I should assist the process.

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Deborah, Are you a member of Instructables? - If so you can publish a picture for me on say this Instructable: www.instructables.com/How-to-treat-a-deep-and-badly-infected-wound-on-an/ You can also send me a message - just press the 'I made it' button and the facility will come up. If not then I'm sure we can work out a way but the most important thing is to make sure she is not in pain - so use the wash and that she has electrolyte. I'm sorry I couldn't get back any more quickly but I was away in the UK and I have no internet access there, ironically I left on the day before you posted the comment! Give your hens a big hug from me and also think about making them a 'saddle' so that this doesn't happen again - I have a pattern for that here: holistic-hen.blogspot.com/2015/11/caring-for-chickens-in-cold-weather.html#.VjdJwpdVKlM It's the same design as this coat I made for a Frizzle suffering from cold stress. All the very best, Sue xx

  • @SkittlesWithFeathers
    @SkittlesWithFeathers Жыл бұрын

    Do you know what to do for a quail with a hurt eye? One of my quails has suddenly got a cloudy eye and the lids are swollen. I assume she got pecked. I bought eyedrops made for animals, and I am wondering if there 's anything natural I can use as well. I assume feeding her a bit of coconut oil would help? I love your videos, they're so peaceful and informative

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there and thank you so much for your lovely comments about my videos, they are very much appreciated! With regards to your quail, for eye problems I use homeopathy in the form of euphrasia officinalis aka 'eyebright' but as you are already using the eye-drops, homeopathy, in the form of pillules, which are highly sensitive to other medication, will not work. However, if you can get it, you could use the wild herb to make a eye-bath or you could wait until you have tried the eye-drops and then start the homeopathy. Homeopathy works very quickly, if you are on the right track with your choice of remedy, then you will see results within 24-48 hours. I have quite a detailed two part article and also a film on treating swollen eyes naturally, including nutritional support for the eyes, you can find it here: holistic-hen.blogspot.com/2013/11/eye-problems-and-their-treatment-in.html#.VCGVMtZDu5k In this case I was treating a hen for conjunctivitis but I have also used it for other eye complaints including injury. Giving coconut oil would help too as it is a good all round tonic and immune system support. I would also want to consider why the quail has these injuries. In my experience, outside of the breeding season and any other obvious territorial disputes, quail get either aggressive or nervous when they are short of amino acids such as L-methionine and essential B complex vitamins. To this end I raise mealworms organically for use in the Winter when other wild invertebrates are not readily available. You can also use an organic hard-boiled egg for another source of these nutrients. If your quail already have enough of these foods available, then you should still observe your flock to make sure that individual birds are not being prevented from their fair shares and are thus exhibiting signs of stress or aggression that can cause pecking and fighting. In this case I would usually remove the bird(s) and feed it/them apart. Hope this is of use and all the very best from sunny Normandie and a big hug for your quail, Sue

  • @SkittlesWithFeathers

    @SkittlesWithFeathers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pavlovafowl Thank you!

  • @GinaSiska
    @GinaSiska Жыл бұрын

    Hello Sue, I hope you’re doing well! I’ve been stocking up on non-perishables and pressure canning meats. When would you use the clay vs coconut oil?

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Gina, great to hear from you! We're fine except for the rain, I'd much rather have snow, then everywhere wouldn't be so muddy! Good idea to stock up and with the canning, I've never tried it, I freeze my meat but then I always have that lingering thought, what if we have a power cut? We use so little electricity anyway, we really should be totally off the grid! I use clay when a wound is deep and/or large and the skin needs to knit back together and/or the wound needs to be sealed over to protect everything underneath. I've even found that clay promotes the restoring of muscle when it has been removed, as in a predator attack on one of my pigeons, when half her side had gone! I use coconut oil after the clay has removed itself (or the bird has removed it) to promote further healing of the skin and to promote feather regrowth. As the wounds had dried in this case, I could have applied coconut but both wounds were so large and so much skin had been rolled back that I thought everything needed a semi-permanent cover. I just play it by ear really, every situation is different. I'd never encountered anything as bad as this before in a rooster wound, I was just so sorry I lost one of the hens and particularly because if I had known about the rooster, I could have easily made them both saddles but then my neighbours didn't know he would do this either - it just happened. Good luck with all your supplies, I'm starting to think about seeds and planting a few things in the house and getting a jump on the season! Love, Sue xx

  • @GinaSiska

    @GinaSiska

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pavlovafowl praying 🙏 for you both that G-d protects and provides!!

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GinaSiska Gina, Thank you so much, appreciated. Just thinking about the coconut oil, I do have another film, hopefully coming up shortly, in which that is my go-to treatment for a head wound on a quail! Much love, Sue xx

  • @anonymmusik4475
    @anonymmusik4475 Жыл бұрын

    So is that a mating wound or something else? It looks absolutely painful!

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi yes, it's a wound from the spurs but I have to admit I've never before seen cockerel-inflicted wounds as important as these. Some completely de-spur their cockerels but that to me is not an option, as not only is it painful, as part of the spur is 'living' but there is not enough known about the true nature of the spur, apart from the obvious defensive and status importance and there is a possibility that like cow horns, they have a role in the overall health of the bird. I just shorten spurs when they are causing difficulty to the cockerel itself or I sand down the points. For my own flock I also have many frizzled hens and as Frizzles can have problems with feathers breaking, I do have chicken saddles ready-made just in case. With regards to the pain and yes there must have been a high level with theses wounds and that is why I believe the one hen went into shock, the essential oils in the wound wash should have dealt with that, lavender being a painkiller and tea tree an anaesthetic. All the very best from rainy Normandie, Sue

  • @anonymmusik4475

    @anonymmusik4475

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pavlovafowl Thank you for these insights! Do you notice a correlation between the age of the cockerel and the wounds? Could it be that more experienced cockerels are more careful about the spurs? It seems so counter-productive evolutionary wise that the poor hens get wounded so easily

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anonymmusik4475 You are welcome. Yes, I've read most of the research carried out in the early to mid 20th century on the last big remaining flocks of wild junglefowl and they mirror what I have observed in my Normandie (jungle) forest garden flock over the years. Firstly, the older cockerels, as you might expect, reserve the right to pair off with the hens and the younger cockerels remain in harmony within the flock as long as they don't start to trouble the hens. On occasions, when the younger cockerels try to mate with the hens indiscriminately rather than pair bond as do as they get older, they tend to go for hens the mature cockerels class as taboo, such as the broodies, sitting hens and young pullets. It's almost as if they think the older cockerels don't mind or won't notice but in fact they do and it usually ends in the younger cockerel getting in big trouble (kick-box to the beak). However, sometimes if there are too many younger cockerels with the same idea, this can have the opposite effect with the older cockerels actually forgetting what their role is/realising they are in a minority and causing havoc by joining in with the young cockerels. It doesn't happen often but when it does it needs immediate solutions because otherwise the whole flock dynamic and thus the flock, falls apart, as the male side of it turns to mob mentality and then you get injuries like the above. However, in this case there was a very specific reason to trigger this event, in that my neighbours went on holiday earlier than usual, leaving us with their small flock, which had a balanced dynamic and 20 cockerels, which they buy every year to fatten up and which, if they had left a few weeks later would have been in the freezer. It was a couple of these that jumped the fence from their field into the paddock where the flock were being kept, basically to avoid this problem. Their one dominant cockerel when faced with these two interlopers couldn't protect all the hens, we over the road heard nothing so couldn't help and thus the result. As these cockerels are industrial, intensively raised broilers, they seem to exhibit none of the old breeds' behaviours. So instead of pulling out the feathers of and annoying a few broodies, which would have been bad but not unmanageable, they ended up killing one hen and damaging another. That said if you keep a few of these back, as my neighbours have over the years, in a well balanced flock they can learn to adapt but they need time. If you are interested I've made a couple of films which show the progression of this type of behavior and how it can resolve itself. The first follows a Silkie, who had wounded my neighbours hens: kzread.info/dash/bejne/npOCusONorzSiqg.html and the following one shows a industrial broiler at my other neighbours' who I treated for wry neck and whose behaviour was changed not only by his physical problems but also by the trust that came from our bonding with him whilst treating him: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3yTj8adYrqsps4.html Hope you find this interesting, Sue

  • @anonymmusik4475

    @anonymmusik4475

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pavlovafowl Thank you so much for the thorough answers. I remember the videos (I've watched every video from your channel), but now I see another dimension to them that I missed before. I think a big problem is also that the breeds have gotten so heavy because more weight equals more damage to the skin. Thank you again and greetings from a (way too warm) Vienna

  • @zagrosqazy3798
    @zagrosqazy3798 Жыл бұрын

    How can i make therapeutic clay at home i need help someone

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there, therapeutic clay was used for thousands of years as a primary medicinal in almost every culture. It's basically just a component of earth/soil, usually what's known as a smectite clay, extracted/mined in areas where it is at its purest and away from industrial pollutants. Here in France it is usually green and is known unsurprisingly as French Green Clay but wherever you are living you should be able to find therapeutic clay in some form. However, because of the way society has been shaped over the last hundred years, these traditional medicines have become more difficult to find marketed as 'therapeutic' or 'medicinal' but as clay was also used as a detox for the skin, as a beauty product you should still be able to find it available in chemists and pharmacies and also beauty shops. Look for a sun-dried variety and one that is pure clay (no perfumes or additives) and in powdered form. If you let me know which country you are in, I can probably help you discover what is available. All the very best from Normandie, Sue

  • @zagrosqazy3798

    @zagrosqazy3798

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pavlovafowl thank you so much for the info I really appreciate it I live in Iraq Middle East I think I can fined some pure clay some where It's one of my old pigeons and his neck area has a hole in it it's the place where water and food goes and when ever he eats some of the seeds and water gets out after he seems fine but I need to cover that area with clean clay and I saw your video as well on your pigeon THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT WORK YOU ARE A BLESSED SOUL

  • @Pavlovafowl

    @Pavlovafowl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zagrosqazy3798 Thank you for your lovely comments, they are very much appreciated! I just wondered if you were having any luck with finding clay because just recently I came across Ghassoul clay, which has been used for thousands of years in Northern Africa and the Middle East. There is also a Moroccan organic beauty brand called IZIL here is a link to their site izilbeauty.com/en/search/?q=clay&search-button=&lang=en_AE they are selling jars of powdered Ghassoul clay. It is possible though that you can get this maybe in your local area, even at a local market, as all these natural products and medicinals are making a huge come-back - thankfully. I hope this is of use and best wishes to you and your pigeon - give him a big hug from me! Sue

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