At that point I don't think anyone including Negan viewed Carl as a child. Pretty sure he was going to kill Carl in that moment.

@Italian1776

21 күн бұрын

Yup pretty much

I would like to think that he was torturing Rick and not really going to hit Carl but probably hit Rick

Yes he would have because Negan didn’t look like he was gonna stop right at his head.😐

He was a P.E. teacher. He loved kids

I’m torn. On one hand, Negan keeps his promises and backing out of a swing would show weakness. But on the other hand… if nothing else, killing Carl would show Negan’s people that Negan’s rules are flexible and can be adjusted at will. Negan knew the importance of strong boundaries to keep order. My gut feeling is that he would have pivoted and done something worse, similar to the Glenn and Abraham situation. What that “worse” could be, I’m not sure. Or he would have just put Carl in the truck and taken him away, something that would drive Rick into submission.

I think he definitely didn’t want to, but he was running out of options to maintain order in his ranks by showing strength and getting Rick and the others in line

YES I think he was fully prepared to bash his head, Rick wasn't caving, even after taking everything, after Glenn, Abe, taking Daryl, beating Aaron, killing Olivia, Spencer, taking Eugene, all that just made our group more determined to fight against him, so yes by this point I think he was out of moves, he was intending to make a lasting impression on the group.

😠He choked up on the bat, so negan was gonna swing.I miss Carl...

I always wondered what would have happened if Negan killed carl. Rick should have killed Negan. Letting him live was dumb.

@TWDExplained

22 күн бұрын

he promised to kill him soooo many times - and in this scene Rick said "and nothing will ever stop me"

Tbh i dont think he wouldve. I think like u said. He was probably gonna act like he was gonna hit carl then Maybe hit rick. Even if he was gonna kill carl he would probably feel awful about it. He felt awful in season 8 when carl died.

And I remember the Character Brandon that was with Negan Brandon is the Son of one of the Saviors in the TV Show and we also remember Brandon rose in the Comic he is the Son of Tammy Rose and Morton Residents at the Hilltop

@TWDExplained

22 күн бұрын

correct

I always had a feeling that he was gonna redirect Lucille and hit Rick at the last second. Negan later claims in season 10 that he would never kill a kid, and the scene is written for him to be truly disgusted that someone thought he did. Simon killed kids and Negan kept him around, thats about the most harm he’s directly done to kids from my knowledge (other than taking away their community’s supplies lol) Believe it or not Carl is only about 14-15 by the time of his demise in season 8. So I find it really hard to believe Negan would kill him

@cincin0722

22 күн бұрын

Agreed

he definitely was going to kill Carl

No it was bluff imo, I think he was gonna swing at Rick at the last second.

Funny thing is he did kill a teenage kid but he really did like Carl so No I don't think he would had killed him

@TWDExplained

22 күн бұрын

what teenage kid?

@brianachim2670

21 күн бұрын

He killed Barbara’s kids

@TWDExplained

21 күн бұрын

They were killed in the grenade attack on Alexandria - killed by Saviors, indirectly - still not a one-on-one kill by Negan

@brianachim2670

21 күн бұрын

@@TWDExplained They acted on his orders

@LaNette2733

20 күн бұрын

​@@TWDExplained season,6 episode 11 Jesus told the group about negan

Q&A James, have you ever thought about doing the evolution of Carol that would be a cool subject?

@TWDExplained

21 күн бұрын

I can add that to the list! Here is probably the closest thing I have - kzread.info/dash/bejne/l42Bo7SgisfSeto.html Thanks!

@carolinecraft2713

21 күн бұрын

It’s hard to believe that it’s only been 2 yrs since last season of original show aired.

Negan didn't want to kill Carl, but in order to stop the war. I do believe he would have. As we know though, things like that, always backfire.

@TWDExplained

20 күн бұрын

cycle of violence

Its a tough one.. I wouldn't think Negan would have but there's no doubt he was about to swing...I kinda put that on the writers knowing that Shiva (tiger) was gonna stop him they wrote it to be suspenseful. But Negan doesn't kill kids plus he was rather close to Carl. Kind of a cheap fake out by the writers

@TWDExplained

20 күн бұрын

yeah this is the real answer to the question. The other closest would be what several have mentioned - he was going to side step a little and kill Rick. Really, killing Rick would be best - then maybe Carl/others would submit. They thought Michonne had fallen to her death moments earlier. Killing Carl seems to be the opposite of Rick submitting - it was Rick that kept saying "I am going to kill you, and nothing will ever change my mind". Maybe it was going to be Carl getting slugged and Negan just "gets off" on trying to win Rick over.

@Father_Daniel

20 күн бұрын

@TWDExplained the idea of him pretending to go for Carl but actually hitting Rick seems way for probable, I like that! Killing Carl would only fuel Rick even more to never submit to him. While taking out Rick and them also assuming Michonne may be dead would leave our group way to defeated.

I'm going to say i personally don't believe negan would have killed carl, it wouldn't have been the first time that negan pulled a fakeout. Remember when negan acted like he was going to swing lucille at daryl but then daryl just stood there with his hair in front of his eyes!? Yeah i believe it would have been a repeated situation with carl! there are multiple possibilities of what the outcome of negan fakeout lucille victim of carl, A) negan hurt carl but doesn't kill him with lucille like aiming for limbs, B) negan make someone else a lucille victim most likely michonne to punish rick and since michonne is already badly wounded, C) negan would punish carl in spite for rick like how daryl was in the sanctuary so carl would be daryl's replacement being forced to listen to 🎶 we on easy street🎶 negan said in the very said episode that he is going to start this all over again because negan blames himself for being to friendly with rick that this is karma for negan for being to soft with this group and in negan's mind that what cause so much push back from this group. Because of negan's leniency to everything relating to rick's group, from carl shooting a gun at the savior for taking half of the medicine to sasha infiltrate the sanctuary to assassinate negan. Negan feels like on the second try on this "Brand new beginning" negan will be more stern and firm on the consequences of Alexandria actions no matter how big or small, so next time i think negan is going to remove warnings. Warnings are going to be off the table so whoever replaces ovliva if that person is not doing a good job keeping track of guns or rations, negan will immediately kill that person without a second thought. No more warnings or chances for rick to salvage the situation. Rick will experience a different less jokey and more serious negan.

he had to kill him at that point because he was a problem for them but i still don't think he would, if only shiva came a bit later so we would actually know

He killed a 16 yr old from kingdom...so yeah he'd have killed carl

Wow! What a question? If it had been anyone else I would say yes but he respected Carl, so that makes me think that he may of been just trying to scare Rick even though it looks like he is going to do it. I keep thinking there was another scene where he threatens to cut Carl’s hand off & doesn’t but I can’t remember exactly when, so he may have been just doing it again. I mean Negan does have some morals but not many. He says he doesn’t approve of rape but he has his wifes and it’s not like they are with him voluntarily. He was a high school gym teacher so that explains why gets along well with kids & teenagers. I would say that he wouldn’t but there is really no way to know. His behavior is very erratic.

@carolinecraft2713

21 күн бұрын

A side note - when Ezeikel & Co come riding in to save the day,very much reminds me of LOTR Two Towers when Gandalf comes down hill to save Helms Deep. They changed some from book but I still like it.

@TWDExplained

21 күн бұрын

ahhh Helms Deep - haven't thought about that one for a while. Negan was going to cut Carl during the line up.

@carolinecraft2713

21 күн бұрын

Yup Good O’ LOTR. Another one of my obsessions. Pete Jackson is suppose to be working on new movie. I didn’t think that was going to happen again. Hopefully it will be good! Just so they don’t just make it up like Amazon. Don’t get me started on Rings of power. That’s why I couldn’t remember. I have only watched the 1st 2 Negan episodes a couple of times. I usually skip them. They are just too rough for me to watch over & over.

i just looked at the walking dead wiki to see what age he was at that point and someone has messed that up badly because it says he was only 3 in the flashback episode where Lori was told that Rick was shot

@brianachim2670

21 күн бұрын

The wiki is trash

@gerardmcquade9102

21 күн бұрын

@@brianachim2670 i have found it to be good up until now

This moment ultimately does not count because the writing was not good. It does not mean anything because it betrays his character. This character moment is not canon

We Will Never Know 🤔 BUT Maybe!?!😲🤔😲😊🍁

@TWDExplained

21 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!!!!!!!!

Negan was gonna do it. Also Carl is a grown ass man I don't care what the timeline says. It's not like negan killed a literal kid. You could make a case for indirectly causing Harm due to his leadership style overall

@TWDExplained

21 күн бұрын

True he does look as old as Brandon - (and in real life may be) - but yeah, supposedly he was only 15ish?

Negan was definitely going to bash Carl with Lucille.

I don’t think so

Nope

That was some scene! That look on his face was scary....But no, I really don't think he was going to kill Carl.

No it was just bad writing..