I will never forgive them for killing him it was so stupid and done purely for shock value i stopped watching when he died

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

I know the death felt so out of the blue and unnecessary :(

@thurmanstevenson5692

22 күн бұрын

Yea i had stoped watchin and was thinking of coming back and then this happened.

@mykaluvy

22 күн бұрын

@thurmanstevenson5692 I came back years later to finish the show but it wasn't the same without him I also feel horrible for the actor he spent his whole life on that show and they fucked him over like that just to avoid paying him more

@magoo9279

19 күн бұрын

I actually lost interest when they killed Noah off.

@thurmanstevenson5692

19 күн бұрын

@@magoo9279 i know what you mean i was close to losing it then

the fact that he died the lamest way possible too is just salt in the wound

Carl was not my fave character.... but i left the show after his death.... I really believe that Carl's death was an irreparable blow to the Walking Dead show. Why? Because the story of The Walking Dead is character-oriented and not event-oriented, characters are more important than events in this show. Events make sense with characters. The story of this series started with the story of a man waking up from a coma and looking for his family. The most important person to Rick throughout the story is Carl, and he is the most important member of Rick's family. All Rick is trying to do is build a world for his family's future. The family is getting bigger, but Carl is still the most important place for Rick and is his motivation for life. By killing Carl, Rick and his life expectancy were killed and nothing, not even Judith and Michonne, could compensate for this defect. Carl was the only child that existed from the first season and grew up bit by bit in the zombie world. No other child had and could not have such a feature. So Carl could be a unique character who gets more interesting as he gets older. But by killing him, a great opportunity was practically destroyed. No kid on The Walking Dead could get us involved like Carl. We saw Carl's pains and his experiences and grew with him, but as for the other child characters who entered the story later, they were not at all like Kar and could not replace him... Carl shouldn't have died... he was Rick's future and an important element in his life... when Carl died, it was as if Rick died too...

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

That was a beautiful read and a very well articulated comment I totally agree

@plaguedoctor5657

22 күн бұрын

Obviously Judith was the main character instead of Carl for the TV show

Scott Gimple just ruins everything that he’s in charge of. It’s just that simple.

@dwightyboy5324

22 күн бұрын

For some unknown reason AMC decided to give him a promotion after he made the decision to kill Carl...It'll never make sense to me

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

It was Oviously The Coked Suits desesion however Gimple Cleary didn't push back and used it as a personal opportunity with is exactly what you don't want in a showrunner.

@BoogSReviews

20 күн бұрын

He’s the best thing that happened to TWD and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t. He made the best episodes of the whole show. Both personally and literally the highest rated episodes on IMDB.

@damonlongstreet8630

19 күн бұрын

@@BoogSReviews by using comic element's/scenes to the point of literally word for word, worst episodes when it's Gimples Original writing, trash people, hospital filler, S7B, world beyond, crm. Just like him you used someone else's line and rewrote into something else.

@cStatE95

6 күн бұрын

Simple gimple

Carl was labeled and viewed as the future of TWD and when they killed him off, it really hurt the show badly. Now it’s down to Judith to be the future of TWD. Really dumb to kill off one character that can carry the show onwards.

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

Exactly tbf Judiths actor is very good so the franchise is in good hands fingers crossed the don’t ruin her character

@allaninaet2835

23 күн бұрын

I'm of the opinion that Judith should have had her comic death with Lori. Messed up yes, but it would have made Rick such a more compelling character.

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

@@allaninaet2835I just think it would have been too graphic to kill a new born baby that way on TV because they toned down the Governor from the comics

@Afish8me2china

22 күн бұрын

@@allaninaet2835the show runner kept leaving in bits and pieces and places where they could kill Judith and say “I’d be weird to bring her back now” but the executives wouldn’t let them

@TheJewishAzovMember

19 күн бұрын

Wait the walking dead is still going? Only the first season was something special and I was in high school when it came out

Although Gimple deserves a lot of blame, the truth is that AMC is as much to blame. Hell they were the ones who got rid of frank darabont, the guy who straight up got the show rolling to begin with because Frank didn’t want to financially cheap out on the show in S2.

The worst decision in the whole of the franchise. Carl was the core to the TV show and was so important in rhe original comic his perspective being critical to the epilogue. The shock value kill off was such a drastically stupid move.

From what I've read, the main reason for Frank Dillane not wanting to continue on FTWD was that he'd just become a father and didn't want to leave his girlfriend alone with their child back in England for several months, while he was off shooting the series in the US. Maybe Gimpel coming over was another reason for it, but I'd say that it's understandable, if him choosing to put his family first was the real reason.

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

It was clearly Gimple rebrand from family drama to dumbed down z nation.

@ryanelliott71698

18 күн бұрын

That’s an interesting perspective

Carl and nick both should survived their deaths were stupid

@theohuntt

19 күн бұрын

Agreed!!!

I wasnt a big fan of carl in the early seasons and oddly enough when they killed him off i was starting to like his character growth. But like him or not, he was the heart of the show and ricks driving force. Killing him off was a HUGE mistake for the show.

I wouldve loved to see a world where Nick didnt die and was running a group in fear, and Carl with the Alexandrians and all run into each other at the end maybe against the commonwealth?

@theohuntt

22 күн бұрын

Thats such a cool concept!

I wasn't a fan of Carl's and even I didn't like the decision to kill him. Very, very stupid decision.

It is so hard to find a show that does not ruin it later down the road. It was sad because The Walking Dead was an excellent show for the time.

The decision to kill Carl was so dumb, I just KNEW they were going to make him immune. It was the only decision that made sense after having him get bit. Once he died, I gave up on the show and didnt come back until Rick's last episode. Then left again 😂

@brandyourfan9244

Күн бұрын

I dont even like Rick... But felt that was the last straw too. RIP TWD

Letting Negan live was the dumbest, most senseless and out-of-place plot twist I've ever seen in a TV show. Yes, I'm aware he lives in the comic series, no, I don't care. The way the show was framed & the way the plot points were adding up, Negan should have been the one to die, PERIOD. I don't know how or why the writers suddenly decided to turn Rick and company from a cadre of tough and gritty survivors to a bunch of simpering, ball-less pacifists, but it was a stupid decision and they should be ashamed of themselves.

@RadioheadPleaseDropAlbumTen

23 күн бұрын

It's not like they cared about comic continuity since they killed off Carl in the show and he didn't die in the comics

@plaguedoctor5657

22 күн бұрын

Did you pay attention at all? If they killed Negan all the other saviors wouldn’t stand down. Making Negan a martyr for savior moral support smh

@pineapplepapercrafts

22 күн бұрын

Cuz Jeffery dean Morgan is an amazing actor. If someone else played negan it would have been a lot easier to off him haha

@sphinx1908

22 күн бұрын

@@plaguedoctor5657 Did you pay attention at all? His people weren’t that loyal to him, there was an internal power struggle between the leaders, he basically had slaves running most of the safe houses. Most of his people were just doing what they had to in order to survive, as soon as Negan died they would’ve kept doing what they had to to survive. Sure there would be rouge groups who carried on his ideals, but that happens in the show anyways. Nothing major would’ve changed if he died outside of his redemption.

@plague_android6773

19 күн бұрын

so many things would not have happened if he died, the reason he lived was cause carl said it would be best, judith would have never been saved in the winter, alpha would prob have never been killed off the way she was

Still haven’t finished the show because of his death, plus Rick left the show also. I still don’t plan to go back to finish it thank goddess the comics exist.

Lets be fr carl was definitely one of the best. He was like his dad but also like glenn where he wouldn't just massacre people for supplies but would use diplomacy just to avoid conflict. Then again whenever they all get captured, carl is usually the one who starts blasting first

It still stings that season 3 of fear is where the show really found its footing. It may have been mixed to people in the beginning but it really had something special to it. The acting and the intensity of scenes between certain characters and their dark descents was awesome. To know it basically was cancelled and transformed into a literal zombie itself, is what hurts.

I’ll never forgive Scott for what he did to TWD :( Great video! Keep it up!

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

Thank you very much I can’t believe how he ruined twd universe :/

@plaguedoctor5657

22 күн бұрын

Scott gave us peak TWD. Seasons 3-7 are classic wth are you guys going on about. Chandler Riggs was a cringy actor and Judith is a way better replacement

@stephendees-lu4yq

22 күн бұрын

​@@plaguedoctor5657 That's mainly because Robert Kirkman was there through a lot of it until they fucked him over and he sued them too. AMC did a lot of dirty shit to the people that brought it to them. They pretty much straight up stole the show

he was killd off because he turned 18 and they'd have to pay him more money

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

Amc = Cheap Cheap and more Cheap

@MASTEROFEVIL

20 күн бұрын

I thought they fired him because he was going to college on the side?

@damonlongstreet8630

19 күн бұрын

@@MASTEROFEVIL he bought a house near set to do both after agreeing to 3 more years, qyiting for school was a lie Amc's pr team was spreading to make themselves not look like total dicks

I feel like if they wanted to keep Negan alive so much they should of had Morgan stay in his “all life is precious” faze (even tho Morgan going savage in all out war was one of the best parts of season 8) then have Morgan get bit (but not in a dumb way like Carl) or slowly dying then he asks Rick in his dying words to keep Negan alive and put him in the cell he built because “all life is precious.” It would make Morgan’s death meaningful. It would be better than what they did with adding Morgan to Fear which didn’t really work well. Rick would listen to Morgan’s advice and the cycle of helping and keeping others alive and it would be proven to be true because how useful Negan was in Seasons 9-11 like saving Judith and helping them beat the whisperer war.

Scott M Gimble was the worst thing to happen to not just The Walking Dead but also AMC

I think they could’ve keep Carl if Morgan wasn’t gonna be planned in fear. In the comics Morgan dies which causes Rick to spare Negan.

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

Morgan like Carol was been completely changed into a Gimple mouth piece so they will Never die.

@mark-fn8tj

Күн бұрын

morgan died before the saviors in the comic when alexandria was overrun with walkers

Rick Grymes was almost irreplaceable as a protagonist. The only one, who could've taken over after writing Rick off would've been Carl, as he's Rick's legacy and got some mayor character development since the very beginning when he was still a young child. Daryl and Carol are great side characters, but they fail horribly as protagonists, and so does most of the remaining cast.

Forget two shows it killed the whole franchise

I don't know why they didn't just follow the graphic novel from start to finish. Carl & Negan both live. Rick dies but becomes a martyr and his memory a source for hope that things can not only go back to normal but be even better than before the apocalypse.

killed him off to avoid paying chandler a fair adults wage

It would be great to see Carl fighting the whisperers and then going to Philadelphia to search for his father along with michone

There was a big thing about Chandlers' dad wanting more, or else. Riggs dad was also his manager and there was some unreasonable demands in the contract negotiations. He learned that Carl would be more of the future of the show's storyline and went crazy

@stephendees-lu4yq

22 күн бұрын

That is not true. His dad aired them out on TV because they let his son commit to university of Georgie when he could have went anywhere, and bought a house there where they filmed. Then decided a week after that they were going to kill him off anyways even tho he wasn't supposed to die. Scott gimple Royally fucked up a lot of the characters. Tyrese and Andrea are the biggest examples. Shit he got canned to FTWD after the thing with Chandler and two actors requested to be killed lol

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

Not Ture, by default he gets a raise at 18 plus royalties for being involved for so long as a child

I really wish they kept Carl alive & had him look over Judith but as Judith grows she loses someone she loves & shows signs of Shane behaviour (Stay with me here) And her & Carl basically have some sibling rivalry & fight on some occasions but in a parallel scene of Rick & Shane in the farm field they come together as a family rather than fighting eachother If they did this with Carl & Judith as characters I think it would be a really interesting arc that shows Carl has the power to bringing people together And it would also show that family is more than just blood I would also love to see Negan help Judith get out of that behavior too

Season 7 and 8 of fear is some of the worst seasons of tv EVER

them killing carl is like if twdg killed off clementine

He only died because Rick wasn't there for him Lori only God because Rick wasn't there for her. Shane was right

Imagine if Carl died when he got shot in the eye by Ron, much better death than what he got

That weird cause the show is doing great and has many spin offs. I felt the same at the time, but watched anyways and there are some great episodes that came after Carl's death.

Man that was some good editing

@theohuntt

22 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

Carl should at least have gotten him some Enid before he died....

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

Hahahahah 😭😭😭

@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el

23 күн бұрын

Carl not getting himself some Enid makes his death even worse lol 😭

@cannonbult0666

22 күн бұрын

Bruh

Gimple made many mistakes running this show but this was the major mistake! I believe he disrespected the fan base. It killed the direction/future of the franchise! Carl took over for Rick so why would a major character like that be eliminated for a villain? Stupid mistake!

Stopped watching the show around season nine I think. What annoyed me with the show is that they killed off basically every character you love and add characters you could not care less of, starting with the new random characters at the end of the episode of Andrew Lincoln's exit, Daryl and Carol were still there, but among dozens of character I couldn't care to remember their names and whose supposed dramatic deaths meant nothing to me compared to deaths of Rick Grimes' crew. Also, killing Carl by getting him bit from the most random walker was just lazy writing and middle finger towards fans only for bringing another character Siddiq to the crew who I couldn't care less about.

Killing Carl caused that stupid ass time jump that made no sense. That was the real downfall of the show. A nonsensical time jump and adding a bunch of characters that no one cared about, so they could have a shock death or save money. Angela Kang was a bad showrunner, making Gimple's decisions even worse Then Gimple made Fear a Morgan, spinoff.

The funny thing is that Carl and Nick were my least favorite characters from the two shows. In fact, I gave up on FtWD after only 1 season because of the Nick character. I quit watching the original show at the end of the season where Rick left. I recently went back and powered throw the whole series, and now I want to collect all of the comic books so that I can see how the story was supposed to go. I would like to binge-watch FtWD now, but it's only available on a service I would have to pay for. I'm already paying for too many streaming services. We really need to go back to the time when Netflix was the only streaming service, before everyone decided that streaming was a good way to pad their own revenues.

well, can't say i agree with everything in this video, but the episode they revealed he was bitten was the last episode that i watched.

@plaguedoctor5657

22 күн бұрын

But why???? Why stop watching a show for one character… who wasn’t even important for the show!!!! He didn’t do anything of importance…. Judith on the other hand replaced comic Carl. Why stop watching a good show for a bad actor I don’t get it

@Jon7763

22 күн бұрын

@plaguedoctor5657 if you ever read the comics then you'd know he's probably the most important character.... spoiler, the last issue was all about him. at its core TWD was a father and son story

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

​@@plaguedoctor5657 so on the Harry Potter reboot if they randomly kill Harry in Golbet of Fire I should keep watching just cause? Fuck that

@BoogSReviews

20 күн бұрын

⁠@@Jon7763I read the comics for years before the show and hated Carl. I wish he would’ve been piked in issue 144. Carl was not a good character in the show or comics. He was constantly annoying and jeopardizing the group. The whole pike situation in the comics is a result of his idiocy when crossing into the whisperers lands. If he wouldn’t have done that, I genuinely believe they would’ve left the groups alone.

Y'all got it wrong. it's not Carl, it's Coral!

@glamglam8347

19 күн бұрын

Cœrl

The plot of the source material is carls coming of age story when they killed carl they completely lost me.

Hopefully they give RJ his own show. The Officer Doofie Chronicles. What a terrible actor.

Bait and Switch. Since we bought into the show the betrayal was never accepted. And bitten on the belly by Enid? Poisonous fangs.

World Beyond is a kill count number 3 too. We could've how gotten older Carl.

Sorry but Carol was so bad in his teens his choices caused so many issue what killed the show is the let Rick outlive his son. At this point in the show Rick is bassicly the terminator no matter what happens to Rick he keep comming back and surviving all odds like a damn Cockroach.nor rather have caral alive now the Rick .Rick by all mean should have died countless times over and yet the plot armor on Rick is so godly he keep getting back up no matter what happens. They either need to kill off the human Cockroach known as Rick or end the show

CORLE! !

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

We can OLIVE together 🗣️

I watched TWD from start to finish multiple times, but I always loose interest after season 8.

Imagine they Neva killed off Carl and he got a spin off

can you please do Chris of fear the walking dead

Ruined both the main show and Fear. The main show should have just stopped at Season 8 with a definitive ending there and Fear at Season 7 with Dave Erickson. This way, the franchise would have been much better and I’d be even more fanboyish than for what the franchise is now, a poor attempt at being a Marvel-style one.

@theohuntt

23 күн бұрын

You’ve summed it up perfectly, it’s such a shame what Scott Gimple did to this franchise :/

@plaguedoctor5657

22 күн бұрын

Except Dave Erickson only did 1-3 on Fear and they replaced him with 2 Twit writers who butchered everything. If they kept Dave Erisksons vision we would have seen villains

@DAV1D-lk7wp

22 күн бұрын

@@plaguedoctor5657 and an even more organic storyline. Sure Season 1 had flaws, so did Season 2A, but there was improvement in Season 2B and MASSIVE improvements in Season 3 and not only because of Erickson but also his writers. The writers did just as much of a fantastic job as Erickson did. When you watch Season 3, it shows the writers were invested in Erickson’s story and would have absolutely aced Season 4. Scott Gimple just had to sacrifice Fear’s story just to accommodate the character of Morgan who lets be honest, was an average character.

Scoot Gimple is a whole other layer of stupid if he thought they had to kill Carl to keep Negan around, just read the source material you're basing the show off and you can see you can Easily do both. AMC hate making money as much as they hate making good TV.

What's the OST in the intro

I love how you say the quiet parts out loud that the true fans have been saying for YEARS!! Keep up the peak content I love it

@theohuntt

22 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for you continued support it means the world!

@JesusLopez-cg2gq

20 күн бұрын

I need more nick videos ASAP

@theohuntt

20 күн бұрын

@@JesusLopez-cg2gq hahaha, I’ll keep them coming I’m going to start doing some travel vlogs as well is this something you’d be interested in?

the could’ve had negans men accidentally hurt carl or judith that makes rick think that negan should be alive as, “evidence” as he puts it. or go on another route that makes rick clear his head and realize. keeping carl around would’ve been so much better for judith, even if they decided to keep RJ. again with introducing new characters, we don’t really get attached to RJ, at least like how we do with carl and judith so it feels like another rushed plot point. F U SCOTT GIMPLE

Honestly i didn't mind Carl dying to much he was an awesome character but the way they decided to do it was terrible same thing goes with nick from FTWD he was my favourite character in FTWD and i would be sad but i wouldn't of minded his sacrifice at the dam to be his death after helping his family escape but no they decided to keep him alive for the next seasons like what first episode only to ruin his character by needlessly killing that dude and getting shot by a little girl they rescued.

rick was supposed to die while carl lives peacefully into late adulthood

riggs wasnt a good enough actor to carry the show on his own. but they should have kept carl alive and recast him after the time skip imo.

So I want to ask the question: Why is rick grime the protagonist of the walking dead comic. Of all the people we could be following? Why not Eziekiel, or Morgan or Tyrese. The anwsewr is way simpler then you might think. He is the only character we see to raise his child in full on apocalypse conditions. We see other childern live to adulthood, but either becuase they are protected from the apocolypse by walls, or by Rick. He was what a father needed to be in the wasteland So turning to the TV universe lets ask the same question, Why is rick the protagonist? Is it becuase he is the last man standing? No that would be Carol. Is it because he has what it takes to raise a child in the wasteland? No that would Jerry. He is the main character for 8 seasons of television becuase he was the guy in charge of the group that would get carol, daryl and maggie to Alexandria. But that's a really bad reason and contradicts directly with the reason he was the main character for 7 of those season. Where he was the father who could get his son through the apocalypse. Killing Carl is such a fundamentally bad move, becuase Carl isn't just the protagonists motivation, he is also what sets Rick apart from characters like Carol, Morgan, Abraham, Michonne, The Governer, and if you want to get a little wider then just biological kids, Tara and Gabriel also both had kids under their care die. With out this, he is just another parent mourning the loss of his child. To add even more stupidity to the fire, all of the narrative weight put on Carl isn't just to make Ricks story better. It was so that when Rick does die you already have a protagonist with depth, and enough narrative weight to carry to the story. And looking at this comment section i feel like even when people don't actively analyze it this deeply, this still implicitly understand how Carl death doesn't vibe with the core themes the show was presenting

Yeah but Gimple killed like 5😂

Yes, I understand that this show is all about “any character can die” but cmon carls death is so dumb and sooooo unnecessary, it didn’t shock me or make me go oh my god it made me go…why?

People who stop watching a show that they’ve been watching for years all because their favorite character died or left the show due to whatever reasons that might be it doesn’t matter. Those are probably the same people that would kill themselves once they’re significant other breaks up with them. Like damn people. Grow up and deal with shit without having to run away and be pissed about it

@theohuntt

20 күн бұрын

Erm a bit deep mate…

all so they could make spin offs

Well one if carl was a life perfect show two when he would become the main character he would have earn it since we basically were rick watching to be a kid to almost adults and three has a fan favorite

Such a dumb idea.

I thought fear twd was terrible. Didn't like any of the characters and didn't care what happened to them

😢😢😢😢 I loved h8m

I starting to think that if you want to destroy a show you put a tribesman running it

Honestly I kinda hate the walking dead. I think it's lazy show with 90% of the characters being the same. Even the season arcs are largely derivative of one another. It definitely has superb moments but the show as a whole never worked for me.

Chandlers acting abilities got worse as he aged. “Carl” was not the comic Carl. Tv Judith is closer to comic Carl at this point

@hix9306

22 күн бұрын

I don’t think people realize that he wasn’t that good of an actor he was a good side character at best but he was important. I don’t think it was the final blow tho people just got tired of the show

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

Maybe don't give all of his major character moments to Carol and replace it with cringe

@plaguedoctor5657

19 күн бұрын

@@damonlongstreet8630 what moments did Carol take? What are you talking about

@plaguedoctor5657

19 күн бұрын

@@hix9306 only little kids thought Carl was the best. You can see by the comments who sticks up for him:… always underage lol

@damonlongstreet8630

19 күн бұрын

@@plaguedoctor5657 Look at the Flowers.

killing carl is not a good decision but making him the main character is baaaad decision because he is not a good actor

Sigh so dumb and the act fight the people who made it or whatever

Eh, Carl was always a shit character. The show died long before then.

Comics were so much better

Ratings was already dropping since season 7 Cral's death had nothing to do with it this was a great call i hated carl he was annoying one of the best decisions was to kill him off.

@plaguedoctor5657

22 күн бұрын

I agreed. Most of his fans are underage kids anyway. He did nothing for the story and his acting got so bad after season 4. Judith was the better character and actor

@damonlongstreet8630

22 күн бұрын

Failed rage bait

@ski.uwu.

21 күн бұрын

@@plaguedoctor5657u like underage kids

Silly ppl, there was 1 great show. That died before Carl did. Fear was a joke, the kids one was plain bad, the stories actually had 2 episodes i liked. Not even bothering with the dixon one or maggie an negan one. Amc milked a dead cow way to much. Gimple and kang didn't know what they were doing, darabount was needed, the 2 mentioned are what but hered the greatness. Nothing came close to season 1, was dead by season 5/6

I never understood why so many people got so mad at Carl being killed off. I wish the comics would’ve done the same thing. I didn’t like him in either medium. Him dying gave us so many great stories we never got in the comics and led to the events that got Rick off the show (which in turn saved his show version from his comic fate). When Carl was on the show, no one liked him and literally every comment section was full of hate for the character and how he should’ve been written off. I think it was a positive for the show and made me enjoy the later seasons even more.

why are people so pissed at Carl's death? Just don't stop watching and missing the "good" days. It never disturbed me that they wrote Carl Grimes character off since it wasn't my favorite either way and thank to that Rick went into murder jacket Rick again. Carl's death didn't ruin nothing, he died a way that I never imagined him to, and that's the good part. I was surprised. They can't keep killing off only side-characters who are so obvious to die anyways, some main characters dying here and there is honest to god best thing for a decent show.

He died in season 8. There was three more seasons and two spin offs. Nothing died. What an objectively terrible take. Click bait

@theohuntt

22 күн бұрын

The viewership plummeted in the main show and got cancelled just 2 and half seasons later, FTWD later seasons were comically bad I would safely say that Carl Grimes death killed 2 shows but your entitled to your opinion