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LeBron Janes and Dwyane Wade are currently producing a documentary on the 2008 United States Men's Basketball team. This has many people asking who would have won a game between LeBron's squad, and Michael Jordan's 1992 Dream Team. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe decide whether the Redeem Team or Dream Team would win.
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@PIP...33
Жыл бұрын
1996 DREAM TEAM 3 WILL SWEEP ANY TEAM !! JORDAN TEAM OR KOBE REDEEM WILL NEVER SCORE NEAR RIM.
@shawnstead6991
Жыл бұрын
Kobe's team 4 sure
@seanhennsey2605
Жыл бұрын
Shannon lebron has no where near the poster Kobe has on people and he 3 inch shorter
@lanceoconnor6432
Жыл бұрын
Pippen, Drexler, malone, barkley, ewing, David Robinson, add jordan and magic stop playing lol
@feryadmezori8171
Жыл бұрын
“Michale Jordan only made 2 or 3 3s in the 3point contest “ shanon destroying Jordan 😂😂😂😂😂
The revisionist history always makes me lose my mind. Bruh that was Kobe’s team and everyone knew it
@noleyestoad4477
Жыл бұрын
they just playing the Lebron goat narrative games with the dumb fans that dont kow any better! all real fans know that was KOBES team!!!
@bigfudge3223
Жыл бұрын
Wade’s team *
@justsomedudewithnoneck8329
Жыл бұрын
@@bigfudge3223 L bait get better lil bro
@datsapaddlin
Жыл бұрын
Kobe was the leader the players looked up too but start to finish of that Olympics Wade was the best player in that tournament so I’d say they shared the duty of it being their team because they were the champions that already knew how to win big games. They showed up the most in the gold medal game as well. People forget Wade was balling that entire time of the Olympics and also had that championship DNA at the time.
@DBE.S.O510
Жыл бұрын
Facts kobes team all day 💯💯🙏🏾🕊
This was NEVER "LeBron 2008 Team", it was Kobe's 2008 Team. Kobe came in the clutch against Spain. And so did Wade.
@MeezyfBaby
Жыл бұрын
Who Said it wasn’t Kobe’s Team 🤷🏽♂️ nobody said it was Lebrons team 🤡
@MeezyfBaby
Жыл бұрын
People here what they wanna here
@isaacflorez4820
Жыл бұрын
@@MeezyfBaby The literal title, ignorant response.
@cameronfarris225
Жыл бұрын
@@MeezyfBaby the title
@kylinmooney167
Жыл бұрын
It was wades team
It was Kobe’s 08 team. This is getting ridiculous now.
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx
Жыл бұрын
Kobe wasn't even their best player D Wade by a mile lol
@lakerlll1939
Жыл бұрын
@@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx D wade was on the bench for a reason
@nayyabmughal1123
Жыл бұрын
@@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx lol you're a clown dude
@Est.1998
Жыл бұрын
@@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx imagine being that dumb 🤣
@durag_tg
Жыл бұрын
@@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx D wade didn’t even play
Did people forget that Kobe posterized yao ming and dwight Howard in actual games
This wasn't lebrons team. It was Kobe team lets keep it 💯
@huntersartin
Жыл бұрын
no one in this segment said it was lebrons team they said lebron was the most athletic
@carolinamorillo6548
Жыл бұрын
@@huntersartin title: “would Lebron 2008 redeem team…”😅
@1klakak
Жыл бұрын
@@huntersartin see the video title.
@t1ag217
Жыл бұрын
How it was Kobe's team if he wasnt even the top 3 player in that team?
@noleyestoad4477
Жыл бұрын
@@t1ag217 I can tell you lie to yourself alot! def was Kobes team
Coach K outlined in great detail that Kobe Bean Bryant was the architect of bringing the gold back in 2008 and repeat in 2012. Lebron has also confirmed this. This documentary is most needed.
@ogred6282
Жыл бұрын
factual
@smugnick5458
Жыл бұрын
Why are we all of a sudden calling Kobe Bean
@vSharpYv
Жыл бұрын
@@smugnick5458 his nickname...
@SosNeedHelp
Жыл бұрын
@@smugnick5458 his father nickname was "JellyBean"
@mrmacross
Жыл бұрын
@@vSharpYv More specifically, his middle name. His legal name was Kobe Bean Bryant.
That 08 team was Kobe 1, Wade 2, Melo 3, then Bron and Deron. Thing is, against prime MJ Pippen Barkley Malone and Ewing, plus a workable Magic, its a mute point
@Piolin180
Жыл бұрын
Moot
They asked Kobe in 2008. “How does this team compare to the Dream Team.” Kobe shook his head. “It doesn’t.”
@davelouie131
Жыл бұрын
2012 was better.
@truittspencer1683
Жыл бұрын
He never said that
@MrEliasdl
Жыл бұрын
Kobe knew he was playing with a bunch of Puppies and that he was the only one who could match the intensity the Dream Team would have brought.
@Robertedwinhouse38
Жыл бұрын
@@MrEliasdl the dream team lost to a team of college basketball players
@takuachejohnny9844
10 ай бұрын
yea that was in 2008 when lots of their careers were still young. use your brain bro
2008? That was Kobe’s team
@user-qd6im2hp2e
Жыл бұрын
@Beery 20 year old Lebron in 04
@damontejohnson9000
Жыл бұрын
@Beery lol
@younglove3362
Жыл бұрын
Hey beery, Kobe would have lost if he was on that 04 team with a bunch of rookies and role players too. Stop it!
@houseofkungfu2543
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 right. Because Kobe beat the same teams in the finals Lebron quit and ran from. Kobe was waiting in the finals with Gasol as the 2nd best player while lebron couldn't get there WITH A SUPERTEAM. FOH
@jaybee946
Жыл бұрын
@Beery LeBron very obviously outplayed Kobe in 2008, as did Wade. Better stats across the board, far better efficiency, better playmaking and much better defense. Kobe was honestly pretty mediocre in 2008. With low volume and fairly weak opposing defenses you'd expect better than 46% from the field and 32% from 3. Also who cares what they did before 2008? We're talking 2008 not the other years. Kobe didn't play in any other competitions and LeBron was 20 years old and basically not used by Team USA in '04.
That team was Kobe's team period. The constant rewriting of history is happening before our very eyes.
@fabistheman1
Жыл бұрын
I see this comment over and over again I’m confused why don’t want to start a debate but I watched the video twice Shannon never stated who’s team it was skip was the one that made it a Lebron vs Jordan thing and Shannon was just talking about player v player and why the redeem team would have the edge tbh I’m not sure skip even called it anyones team he just wanted to make it about Lebron again if I’m wrong time stamp for me but skip was the one tryna make this a Lebron debate Shannon was not
@zaiah1215
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@taichisavage
Жыл бұрын
D Wade was the real MVP tho
@davidlamar2806
Жыл бұрын
They’re using lebrons picture as if he’s was the leader of that team
@studmuffin3264
Жыл бұрын
@@fabistheman1 read the title
People are sleeping on Barkley, Malone and Stockton in this scenario. Not to mention the defense
@MrEliasdl
Жыл бұрын
That is why Dream Team would win. Their second unit was insane.
Glad people are recognizing Kobe and Wade led the way for the 2008 team. Dream Team would still defeat the Redeem Team, because of size...and well you know, Jordan.
@Kosher93
Жыл бұрын
They don’t have enough guys to guard Kobe Bron and Wade.
@ImRacistTowardsBlacks
Жыл бұрын
Jordan what? Jordumb would get smashed on by Kobe and LeBron LMAOOOOOO
@jameskim1505
Жыл бұрын
@@Kosher93 MJ and Pip. All day
@Kosher93
Жыл бұрын
@@jameskim1505 you gave me 2 names. I said 3.
@randyh255
Жыл бұрын
Kobe eliminate jordan
Change the title to Kobe’s Redeem Team!!!!
Lebron lost twice in international games in 04 and 06, Kobe was the reason they won 08, Kobe literally put the Americans back on track as the dominant country in basketball. It would have been very bad for the US if not for Kobe. Every member on that team would tell you the same thing.
@wooiiin7281
Жыл бұрын
Lebron in 04 and 06 didn’t do much compared to 08 and 12
@joelgriffith1654
Жыл бұрын
@@wooiiin7281 coincidentally when kobe rejoined the team. But whatever.
@ng7214
Жыл бұрын
@@joelgriffith1654 or maybe bron was only a kid at 19 in 04 and 06 was still young but still gave 15 ppg, 2008 bron was moving into his MVP years reaching his atheltic peaks 2008-20013
@ng7214
Жыл бұрын
@@joelgriffith1654 even then bron still played better than kobe shooting 46% vs 60% from the field and 32% kobe from 3 vs lebrons 46% from 3 on similar ppg and played better defense
@johnmickns
Жыл бұрын
Yall musta forgot in '04 larry brown barely played bron or wade or if you seemed like u were wet behind the ears. Its easy to place blame on bron because its bron. Dude will always be an easy target until he retires. With that said the '92 team is the greatest basketball team EVER assembled
Bron and Kobe are always brought up when talking about the Redeem Team but Dwyane Wade was truly special in 08.
@deanmark3636
4 ай бұрын
Yep Truly A Great Sixth Man
This segment is DISRESPECTFUL to Kobe Bean Bryant. LeBron was likely the 4th best player on that team in 2008 behind Kobe, Wade, and Melo.
@deanmark3636
4 ай бұрын
Wade Was A Sixth Man Don't Try To Tell Me The Second Greatest Player Of All Time Is Worse Then A Sixth Man
@AN-qw3qx
4 ай бұрын
@@deanmark3636 was Bron the 2nd greatest player in 08? Nope. & I said specifically on this 2008 team Bron took a backseat to all those players, it’s not a bad thing but Bron wasn’t an alpha in 08.
@deanmark3636
4 ай бұрын
@@AN-qw3qx Dude LeBron Was The 2nd Best Player In That Team
@jimmiej2226
29 күн бұрын
@@AN-qw3qxyou can’t be serious. Watch the redeem team documentary the two leaders of the team were literally Kobe and Bron lol.
You have to be LeBlind to not see that the 2008 team was Kobe's team alone, Lebron was still a puppy while Kobe was an established Mastiff in 2008
@huh8896
Жыл бұрын
Or just don’t care enough to keep up with it? Basketball is very quickly turning into baseball. Aka the dead sport, while baseball is finally coming out of its slump. People barely want to keep up with the nba as it is. And you want people to know who was the alpha dog on an Olympic team almost 15 years ago? Lol
@TR3Y1K
Жыл бұрын
Kobe had no FMVPS at the time the gap isnt what your making it.
@Psycho_Like_Micho
Жыл бұрын
@@TR3Y1K lol
@itjustwisdom1835
Жыл бұрын
@@TR3Y1K neither lebron so what ?
@Mrballerize
Жыл бұрын
@@TR3Y1K Kobe was considered the leader period. By that time he was the reigning 08 Regular season MVP, and had the most championship experience on that team.
This was Kobe team cause
@WearyKawhi
Жыл бұрын
No it wasn’t Lmao
@Beverabrooks8
Жыл бұрын
@@WearyKawhi yes it was watch all them games
@lebronjamesfan6088
Жыл бұрын
@@WearyKawhi bro u can see i am a lebron james fan but 2008 fasho was kobe team its just the facts
@crisgooner14
Жыл бұрын
@@lebronjamesfan6088 respect for looking beyond fandom fr
@WearyKawhi
Жыл бұрын
Dwade was the best player on that team y’all are SICK or remembering wrong
The absolute disrespect of how great Ewing and Robison was, 92’ team too big. That dream team was the best version of Mike, 28 years old, damn don’t best ever against that.
When Shannon said Bron might mess around and join the 3-pt contest 😂😂😂😂😂
It was Kobe’s team first off and I’d say d wade coming off the bench was even the 2nd most impactful then Lebron that year
@arealperson641
Жыл бұрын
next on undisputed: how did Lebron's 1944 Allied forces landed in Normandy
@jaahnnn
Жыл бұрын
J kidd was really good those Olympics
@osamasufian24
Жыл бұрын
Literally it was Kobe’s team with wade and Durant
@npant14
Жыл бұрын
@@osamasufian24 not even mentioning Lebron shows me your just a hater
@MikeBNumba6
Жыл бұрын
@@arealperson641 lol I'd be interested in that topic
This was Kobe's team not lebron's let's get it right 💯
@kwakukiller8474
Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯💯💯
@taichisavage
Жыл бұрын
D wade was the real MVP tho
@Christappedin
Жыл бұрын
it definitely was kobe team but bron was right on kobe level then, bron just took backseat
@amenx
Жыл бұрын
@@Christappedin Lebron was never on Kobe’s level
@Rrw98
Жыл бұрын
@@taichisavage nah kobe played high level on both sides of the ball and he add leadership and work ethic to the team !!
Jordan's 1992 dream team would eat up that 2008 team alive. There's a reason why they were called the redeem team. Minus Kobe Bryant, the 2008 was the same as the 2004 team and that 2004 team didn't even medal. All that aside, that 1992 team would neutralize every member of that 2008 team and then some.
@demasceionbyrd3776
Жыл бұрын
Are You Serious?
@jesellelagrada7849
Жыл бұрын
@@demasceionbyrd3776 yeah look it up..those are facts
@quentelhill5074
Жыл бұрын
@@jesellelagrada7849 lebron beat kobe in every stat category
@vegeta2751
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t the dream team loose to a bunch of college players?
@jesellelagrada7849
Жыл бұрын
@@quentelhill5074 did you actually watch those games..cause I have and Kobe was the captain and the difference maker..lebron 2004 team didnt even medal.
It was Kobe’s team. Anybody saw what he did 4th qtr vs Spain? Without him they wouldve settled in Silver. Spain had prime Gasol & bunch of nba players Hernandez,Rubio etc
@cristianlopez6069
Жыл бұрын
@Tru 319 so age doesn’t matter? Redeem team would smoke that 92 team. They were past their primes but y’all be too stuck with nostalgia. A retired magic and old bird would get smoked 😂😂😂
@MrEliasdl
Жыл бұрын
They might have not even made it to the Olympics without Kobe. They lost in the first Olympic qualifying tournament without Kobe. Then Kobe came and made sure they qualified in the next and last tournament qualifier. Kobe was undefeated when he put on that Team USA Jersey
It's actually kobes 08 redeem team not lebrons put some respect on kobes name 🙏🏾🕊💛💜
@Jack-vo9dh
Жыл бұрын
Dwayne Wade won MVP tho
@SazZe.X
Жыл бұрын
@@Jack-vo9dh Kobe was team captain so it was his team, that's just fact.
@beanteam2217
Жыл бұрын
@@SazZe.X 2 other players out performed him
@richboyjullianhicks6604
Жыл бұрын
@@beanteam2217 captain literally means best player on the team tho. Kobe knew he could take over as needed (against Spain) he let the 2003 class shine he had the most rings on the team already
@beanteam2217
Жыл бұрын
@@richboyjullianhicks6604 lol okay
Is this a joke question??? First, it was Kobe's team (wasn't a fan) then Wade's! Secondly, the 1992 team is far superior to that team!
Kobe was literally in his prime. He was the 2008 MVP and was in the finals from 08-10. I would argue him/wade as the best on that Olympic team. Kobe's defense was insane. It was his team
Nah FOH with that Kobe disrespect. Both 2012 and ESPECIALLY 2008 were led by Kobe. Coach K said so himself. The agendas are insane against this man smh
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
08 yes. Kobe himself admitted he took a backseat 2012. That was clearly Lebron's team.
@crisgooner14
Жыл бұрын
@@xaviervega468 nah finish your statement, he took a backseat offensively bc the team already had so much offensive talent. So he told Coach K it’s lockdown time aka defense but still was clutch offensively
@davelouie131
Жыл бұрын
@@crisgooner14 2012 was Lebron team. 08 was Kobe from what I could remember.
@crisgooner14
Жыл бұрын
@@davelouie131 sorry but truth is it was still Kobes. None of our opinions matter, Coach K’s does.
@davelouie131
Жыл бұрын
@@crisgooner14 I was in 9th grade at that time remember coach K saying Lebron was the best player on the team, I agreed because he just won the title.
Yall love this revisionist history. I was alive back then, and we all knew the 2008 team's leader was Kobe. This isn't even a debate. Even the recent documentary's trailer shows that Kobe was the it factor/leader.
@younglove3362
Жыл бұрын
Ummmm, first off, LeBron and Kobe were co leaders. Secondly, LeBron was more of the leader because Kobe kept to himself. Get your facts straight.
@arealperson641
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 exactly! Lebrun already got two bronze medals before 08 and Kobe didn’t manage to get even one bronze medal his entire FIBA career
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 That was 2012. 2008 Kobe was the clear leader of the team. Facts only.
@theinktician
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 you're thinking of 2012. Kobe did not keep to himself because guys came to him anyway. Plus they fed off his energy in games
@peewee130946
Жыл бұрын
@@xaviervega468 facts only ok how about the fact Kobe averaged 15.0 Lebron averaged 15.5 Kobe averaged 1.1 steals Lebron averaged 2.4 Kobe averaged 2.1 ast Lebron averaged 3.8 Kobe averaged 2.8 reb Lebron averaged 5.3 and finally Kobe shot 46% and 32% from 3 Lebron 60% and 46% from 3. Just facts.
It’s young players versus largely prime players. The big battle is won easily by the dream team. And there’s the competitive edge that can’t ever be surpassed in that team
@deanmark3636
4 ай бұрын
The Mamba Mentality:Activating.
92 dream team hands down!
2008 Kobe vs 1992 MJ by itself would be insane to watch.
@ayeitsjay883
Жыл бұрын
I’m taking Kobe
@jrbbbb2145
Жыл бұрын
MJ all the way
@Felix2389
Жыл бұрын
2006 Kobe vs 1992 Jordan
@conchobar
Жыл бұрын
People forget Jordan had 2 rings already and 4 more yet to win back in 1992, Kobe would simply look like an inefficient imitator.
@brayv_8
Жыл бұрын
@@conchobar didn’t forget that at all. I just don’t judge players only by overall team accomplishments like you seem to be doing here. From around 2006-2011 Kobe was the best player in the league, just like MJ was during the 90s.
At some point we gotta question this “sports analyst” as to why they try to diminish Kobe so much I mean it’s just getting to obvious they have something against him Smh
@youngcity4241
Жыл бұрын
Tryna push the Lebron vs MJ bs smh
@younglove3362
Жыл бұрын
I be seeing LeBron get diminished way more than Kobe. If you want to blame anyone for why Kobe doesn't get respect then blame Jordan fans. When Kobe retired he was barely being mentioned as if he was just there. And now he's only being mentioned because he died.
@real45__61
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 stop it lmao.
@mamba4817
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 Kobe was being mentioned long before he retired. Pure revisionist history and cap, he got slighted more after he died because people forget and you had to watch Kobe to understand how great he was.
@josephjudah77
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 no dude the media trying to push lebron as the best ever when he’s not even close Kobe was miles better than lebron this post even proves it ain’t no way they should make that look like it was lebronze team lebronze legacy must diminish others so he can be put up that’s how you know he’s not that great
This is a prime example of how the media twists narratives to favor LeBron. That was clearly Kobe's team I watched the doc last night it showed that this was Kobe's team. It also showed how important those non quantifiable intangible winning qualities that you often hear about but don't really see, how important they are.
@josephparise1287
Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯 they recruited black mamba on the team for a reason!
Let’s not forget the Dream Team not only had the greatest PG of all time in Magic, not only had the greatest scorer of all time in Michael, but also had the greatest duo of all time in Stockton and Malone. Larry could be on his death bed, I’m still taking the Dream Team.
@bobanderson9715
Жыл бұрын
Stop it. Stockton and Malone aint the greatest duo , that's Jordan and Pippen. We seem it head to head 2 years in a row.
This was Kobe’s Team , 2012 was Lebrons Team
@tmac731
Жыл бұрын
2012 team is actually better than 2008.
@thegreatdel9679
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@muhweei1516
Жыл бұрын
it was still Kobe's team tbh, Bron was the best player on the team but Kobe was the leader, like on the Dream team, Jordan was the best player (even though Barkley was the best player at the olympics) but it was Bird and Magic's team
@rell660
Жыл бұрын
@@tmac731And you are actually on the pipe.
@tmac731
Жыл бұрын
@@rell660 a fully healthy 2012 team was basically 2008 but Howard was injured. 2008 didn’t have KD Westbrook and 2012 would’ve had D Rose also.
It was Kobe's Team and the dude played the best D on that Team, guarding the best player in every game and was clutch when they needed him.
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx
Жыл бұрын
Nah that would be D Wade sir. Not about who's more popular
Did Shay say Ewing and Robinson couldn't shoot 15 footers....is he High ...🤣🤣🤣
Hey Shannon. Talk about the previous olympics were goat was 5.6/1.6/1.0🤣 Kobe was in the team to save these 🌸 after last olympics 🤫
It was Kobe's team! Coach K knows it, even all of China knew it. They were all too athletic.
Close game, but 1992. Saw both teams. 1992 was something special, beyond any other US fielded team.
@younglove3362
Жыл бұрын
08 was just as special. It recreated what 92 lost after USA was over confident in thinking that they can throw rookies and role players in and still compete
@younghero80
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 no it didn’t they didn’t recreate nothing they won but it was nothing like 1992
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
1992 gets my vote. They were awe-inspiring, to the point their competition wanted to take photos with them after the game. One guy on the Argentine squad actually gave his teammate a camera and asked him to take a picture of him guarding MJ.
@omnitheus5442
Жыл бұрын
Give me the 2012 team over both the 2008 and the 1992 teams. All day every day.
@conchobar
Жыл бұрын
For it to be close, Deron Williams, Tayshaun Prince, or Michael Redd would have to go sit on the bus. Once they step foot on the court, its a wrap.
Come on man :D 2008 it was Wades & Bryants team by far the 2 best players in that tournament
The redeem team won their Gold Medal Final 118-107. The Dream team won their Gold Medal Final 117-85. The Dream Team beat their opponents by an average of 43.8 points. The redeem team beat their opponents by an average of 27.9 points. The Dream Teams top 3 assist leaders averaged 5.9 5.5 and 4.8 assists per game. The redeem teams top 3 assist leaders averaged 4.1 3.8 and 2.8 assists per game. Showing the chemistry the Dream Team had. The Dream teams top 3 in steals averaged 4.1 3.0 and 2.6 steals per game. The redeem team had no player that averaged 2.5 or more steals per game. The Dream Team had 10 players shoot 50% or better from 2pt range. The redeem team had 8 players shoot 50% or better from 2pt range. The Dream team had 3 players shoot 50% or better from 3pt range. The redeem team had 2 players shoot 50% or better from 3pt range. The Dream Team even had a college player on the roster to fill out their 12. The redeem team had all NBA players. It’s really not an argument if you research film and numbers.
@chuckrambo4401
Жыл бұрын
KZread sucks
2008 = Bean Team
Backcourt is close, but the bigs from 92 would have smoked the 08 bigs. Barkley, Malone, Robinson, and Ewing vs Bosh and Howard? Laughable.
@juanio7036
Жыл бұрын
That size and nastiness would have killed Bosh and Howard
@ljvue
Жыл бұрын
YepZ. Laughable.
@mrmacross
Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. The bigs would make all the difference in a hypothetical matchup.
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
Only chance Redeem team would have is to run and gun. Halfcourt the Dream Team bigs will dominate.
@Dnero518
Жыл бұрын
Ooh yeah thats rough, I thought about looking it up, is that all they had? No KG or Duncan or anything?
Man it's tough I love the redeem team but a defensive front of Stockton, Jordan, Pippen, Ewing, and Robinson would be brutal.
@Boogerdick69
Жыл бұрын
Wade Kobe bron an Dwight are literal ALL time defenders. Kobe an wade are literally top 5 defensive guards all time
@FrokuBabayy
Жыл бұрын
@@Boogerdick69 Ok and Pippen, MJ, Robinson, Stockton, and Barkley are all better defenders, more physical defenders, have better lateral quickness, shot blocking ability, are better at reading passing lanes and most have lower def. ratings, it's not even close. And LBJ was nothing more than a mediocre help defender his entire career its blasphemous that you're even putting him in the name of the GOAT defenders🤣The same LBJ that defends the passing lanes by putting his leg out, cherry picks, can't guard a primary player, and can't steal the ball for sh!t, nobody worrying about him
@Boogerdick69
Жыл бұрын
@@FrokuBabayy 08 > 12 > 92 Boomer
The fact that Shannon put Kobe on Jordan instead of Bron let’s you know who’s the better defender
Whenever they are short a topic they just do a LeBron vs Jordan debate, that's always good enough to fill up at least 15 minutes of the show
@JayJenkins2020
Жыл бұрын
And Kobe was better than LeBron so idek why they say LeBron v Mj
@winnuh
Жыл бұрын
@@JayJenkins2020 i ain’t even a lebron fan, but lebron is twice the BASKETBALL player Kobe ever was, Lebron is the greatest all around basketball player the league has ever seen period .
@cryptonous7320
Жыл бұрын
@@winnuh stop the hoax! How is the best all around and he never won DPOY ever? MJ has more all defensive teams awards and was the steals leader 3x. That’s being the best on both sides of the ball. Getting assist and rebounds doesn’t mean your all around that’s only offense.
@JayJenkins2020
Жыл бұрын
@@winnuh I agree he was best all around.
@BrocktaviusKingofNFC
Жыл бұрын
@@winnuh he been in the nba 20 years and still ain't kobe nevermind mj 😂
Shannon: "He might compete in the 3 pt contest this year" Skip: "I would pay money to see that because it would be the biggest brick fest"
Shannon had me dying 😂😂
Sharpe is mistaken,the 2008 team had a very close gold medal game against Spain. It was Kobe(and one 3) and Wade that sealed victory. That was no blowout
I was always under the impression that was Kobe's team. How many other narratives has the media rewritten
@daverobertson623
Жыл бұрын
In what way was it Kobe's team? Lebron was a puppy, but still played better ...
@SkiJumpp
Жыл бұрын
@@daverobertson623 Watch the final against Spain.. Kobe carried the them to gold lmao
@larry7079
Жыл бұрын
@@SkiJumpp dude probably 15 he don’t remember 2008
@osamasufian24
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@tystuntin
Жыл бұрын
@@daverobertson623 because he literally taught the next generation (Bron, Wade, bosh, cp, Melo) how to play defense, literally. There are several videos from said players that go into this deeper because that's just the scratching the surface on why it was Kobe's team
Karl Malone David Robinson Charles Barkley and MJ we’re all in their prime. Unstoppable!
@conchobar
Жыл бұрын
Jordan was still winning rings at that point. Shannon is a clown.
@breeezy9330
Жыл бұрын
So was KD Lebron Kobe Carmelo D wade Chris Paul
@trethekid
Жыл бұрын
If we’re talking athleticism, I’m going with the Redeem team. Idk why y’all don’t understand players are on average more athletic. Also, you’re telling me that the Dream Team can out shoot the Redeem Team? You can’t be serious. Math, simply makes them lose. 90s rules, Redeem Team dominates. Modern rules, Redeem Team wins a close game. NEUTRAL REFS bc they cheated for Jordan more than any other player 😂 literally damn near gave him the final championship 😂 if you don’t believe me, go watch game six and count how many illegal defenses they didn’t call on him but called on other players, they took away a 3 for the Jazz with 1 left on the shot clock, but Ron Harper had zeros on the shot clock and they counted his bucket. The game was really rigged tbh 😂 but main point, be real 😂
@robglobal1
Жыл бұрын
@@trethekid basketball is obviously not for you
@trethekid
Жыл бұрын
@@robglobal1 yeah ight 😂 go actually watch the FULL game for yourself and tell me I’m lying 😂 and for my first point imma ask this…think about ANY role player that’s a shooter off the bench currently…now compare that to ANY role player that was a shooter in the 90s. Who on AVERAGE is more athletic? There’s bench players known as shooters that literally dunk. Most 90s bench players could barely touch the rim consistently. Be real. I can knock off any rebuttal tbh. Players realistically are more athletic now than before. That is called evolution. Even if the 90s teams had the same workouts and were the same physically, that doesn’t make up for the fact that people currently shoot more and shoot better from three than they did before. 3>2 With modern rules, it’s a close game because the old school can’t foul. They can’t be fouled. So the deciding factor is gonna be threes. The modern era are just better and more willing shooters. Old school, they are not gonna bully in the paint as much as you would think. Even if they do, their bigs will get beat off the dribble. That’s 2s AND 3s. The spacing would make it difficult for bigs to help. Illegal defense combined with spacing would make it impossible to help. So it’s always 1v1 for Redeem bc if you double, they WILL hit the 3. EVERYBODY WILL hit the 3. The Dream Team , some CAN hit the three but won’t most of the time. Especially the bigs. They won’t call a lot of fouls so not as many And 1s bc they have the athleticism and length to stay in front and get good contest WITHOUT fouling. They simply lose because of math. If you think any of those bigs could consistently guard Melo and KD on the PERIMETER, you are truly delusional. Y’all thinking Jordan vs Kobe. No. It’s Jordan vs KD AND Melo AT THE SAME TIME. Jordan was great. STRONG argument for GOAT. However, he’s not beating them by himself. His “competitiveness” isn’t out doing math. Y’all really expect Jordan to CONSISTENTLY MAKE 5+ 3s, let alone TAKE them CONSISTENTLY. 😂 Be real.
My tongue hang too - Shannon 😂😂😂😂
That man said Lebron couldnt jump like Kobe and I spat my drink out
Kobe was big time clutch for the redeem team!
@mariovh
Жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for him they would’ve lost against Spain So that Redeem isn’t even close to the Dream Team in fact they aren’t even close to 1994 & 1996 with Shaq , Hakeem , Penny , Reggie , Nique
Shannon on Kobe to MJ: "I'm not in awe! My tongue hang out too. I got a little more hair than you." LMAO
the ending lol
I'm going with the dream team. They were that great with much more physicality. They would go to the line even more.
@louiville7
Жыл бұрын
That dream team was good, but not as good as the redeem team 🤷🏾♂️ ijs.
@chuckrambo4401
Жыл бұрын
@@louiville7
@louiville7
Жыл бұрын
@@chuckrambo4401 37 to be exact, but close enough Brodie 👏🏾
@chuckrambo4401
Жыл бұрын
@@louiville7 The redeem team won their Gold Medal Final 118-107. The Dream team won their Gold Medal Final 117-85. The Dream Team beat their opponents by an average of 43.8 points. The redeem team beat their opponents by an average of 27.9 points. The Dream Teams top 3 assist leaders averaged 5.9 5.5 and 4.8 assists per game. The redeem teams top 3 assist leaders averaged 4.1 3.8 and 2.8 assists per game. Showing the chemistry the Dream Team had. The Dream teams top 3 in steals averaged 4.1 3.0 and 2.6 steals per game. The redeem team had no player that averaged 2.5 or more steals per game. The Dream Team had 10 players shoot 50% or better from 2pt range. The redeem team had 8 players shoot 50% or better from 2pt range. The Dream team had 3 players shoot 50% or better from 3pt range. The redeem team had 2 players shoot 50% or better from 3pt range. The Dream Team even had a college player on the roster to fill out their 12. The redeem team had all NBA players. It’s really not an argument if you research film and numbers. 🎤 Drop
@devus9793
Жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone who gives their take on the actual question at hand. Kobe was the leader but that wasn’t the question.
The title of this video is the reason why I always say Kobe Bryant is the most disrespected SPORT LEGEND OF ALL TIME
@jesusbrooks01
Жыл бұрын
Big facts
@wowthatsinteresting8951
Жыл бұрын
Big Facts they really trynna erase this mans history. I think the plot for the Kobe to be best ever was when they vetoed Chris Paul trade to the lakers . Obviously the allegations back in 04 ruin his reputation as the Star child of the NBA which so far lebron has image that is unblemished so that’s why they cater to lebron. We just gonna have to live with it.
@hitek9too255
Жыл бұрын
Nah Bill Russell is.
@norvinzor
Жыл бұрын
@@hitek9too255 The one thats getting his Number 6 retired across the league That guy?
@emmapeel38
Жыл бұрын
@@norvinzor Kobe, the guy who was GIFTED x9 1st All Defensive Team and another x4 2nd All Defensive Team? The most overrated defensive player throughout the league's history? That guy?
Goat james whisper had me dying 🤣🤣
How many times are you going to debate the same conversation y’all do this every year 😂😂
The 1992 team would annihilate the 2008 squad. The 92 team Had Jordan, Magic, Bird, Drexler, Ewing, Chris Mullen, Pippen, Stockton, Karl Malone, and Charles Barkley. While 2008 starting five was comparable (Kobe, LeBron, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh/Dwight Howard) it's the depth of 92 that sets them apart. The Dream Team is way deeper than the Redeem Team.
@MiNoGanG
Жыл бұрын
I think wade was coming off the bench from shoulder surgery that year
@coreysingleton3118
Жыл бұрын
You are going based on names
@mical2great
Жыл бұрын
Magic already retired and had aids and bird in worst condition than lebron is Now🤣🤣🤣 let go of the past you know that dream team gettin whooped. Soon as Mullen or Stockton touch the floor they getting cooked 🤣🤣
@SuperThumpasaurus
Жыл бұрын
@@coreysingleton3118 ...No, I'm basing it on who had the best roster. Everyone from the 92 team was on the NBA 75th Anniversary team, save only Christian Laetner and Chris Mullen. The 08 team wasn't nearly as deep. C'mon, the 08 team didn't have nearly as many elite level players.
@fatality1249
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 anyone thinks dream team even stands a chance is delusional. The human race is always evolving my guy. The 3pt shooting would be way too much for them and they’re way more athletic. Handles got better everything got better its just that simple
Ppl forget how important Dwade off the bench was for that team. With Kobe leading the starters, Dwade brought it off the bench, probably was even more impactful than Lebron.
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx
Жыл бұрын
Wade averaged 18 ppg on 67% and 3 steals...Wade was the best performer on the team by far
"Mike invented the dunk contest" -Skip - LOL
This was Kobe's team since Lebron and Wade didn't win
Did Shannon forget that the Dream Team had Bird, Mullins, and Stockton that can make 3s?
@younglove3362
Жыл бұрын
Bird, Magic, and Christian are liabilities. Two of them past their prime and 1 not even a rookie yet
@redskinsxvii
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 Magic was MVP runner up the year prior.
@y2shuproblem
Жыл бұрын
@@redskinsxvii also Magic was just a year retired at 32. He's still relatively fine
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
@@younglove3362 Christian was there to carry the luggage.
“You are thoroughly unconvincing in every word you just uttered! You know it and I know it!” The gift of Skipisms keeps giving 😂
So explain how ull preview the doc an wen it does comes out ull neva spoke about it …lol this is funny
Didn't they have this same debate few years back?
Lmao that wasn't even Lebron's olympic team. He lost multiple times in the Olympics too before Kobe came on board.
@Mark_Ellzy
Жыл бұрын
1 time in the Olympics. And at the time Lebron just entering his 2nd year. The national team losses at that time weren’t because of him and the younger guys, he barely even played.
@willardweston8984
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Ellzy lost in 06 too
@Mark_Ellzy
Жыл бұрын
@@willardweston8984 that wasn’t Olympic play tho. USA basketball was a mess at that time.
@willardweston8984
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Ellzy you mean until Kobe got there?? Lol
@Mark_Ellzy
Жыл бұрын
@@willardweston8984 don’t get me wrong Kobe was a part of that change for the players but they had to change coaches and basically had to revamp everything abt how they ran the national team.
Thank you KoBe! Without you we don’t win the🥇
@True-Believer616
Жыл бұрын
Nothing but the truth. They would have lost again without him.
Its sucks that media has to make up conversation during the off season. This debate been covered already
I was 7 or 8 years old back in 2008 reeder team man miss those days the 2000s was the best times in my life miss childhood
Pippen, Barkley, Malone, Ewing and Robinson would’ve absolutely crashed them inside! The physical play would’ve mentally broke down the redeem team.
😂😂😂when Skip laughed I died
It's close in the first part of the game But when those second 5s come out the dream team runs away with it
Nobody talks about the 1996 team,that team was fully loaded.
@marcusjones2550
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. That 1996 team was scary. At their best, I can see them beating anyone. Olajuwon, Robinson, and Shaq in the middle. Play making from Grant Hill, Stockton, and Pippen. Lockdown defense from Robinson, Olajuwon, Pippen, and Payton. Outside shooting from Miller and Stockton. Strong rebounding from Barkley and the big guys in the post.
@rjallday28
Жыл бұрын
@@marcusjones2550 I agree with everything except you forgot Penny Hardaway..in 1996 he was the best point guard in the league,finished 3rd in the MVP race that year behind Mike and David Robinson,that team also got the Mailman and Walmart Jordan aka MITch Richmond.
Dream team had better big men, if they playing by 90s rules dream team wins by a landslide, with modern rules redeem team would make it close but I still a think the dream team would win
@fortunateson2
Жыл бұрын
an unchecked Jordan?!? oh man
"I gotta lil bit more hair than you" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@yorncake
Жыл бұрын
Took me OUT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stevedub8035
Жыл бұрын
😆 🤣 😂 😹
They hate these conversations but have them every other day.
MJ and the 1992 guys never flinched!
Dream Team wins hands down. Pippen, Jordan, Ewing/Robinson, Bird and Magic. Magic is 1 year removed from his last finals appearance. Magics experience makes him contain LeBron. Prime Kobe is not beating Prime Jordan. Jordan won DPOTY in 88, so 92 dream team has MVP Jordan. Robinson has the size and won dPOTY in 92 so he takes on Dwight Howard who won dpoty in 08. Shannon Sharpe wants you to believe the redeem team has more talent but they would be over matches. Pippen on Wade for example would be a sight to see. Pippen isn't given the respect he deserves and he really should be talked about with higher regard. Barkley would also have done some damage to the redeem team with his size and athleticism.
The 1992 Dream team would have whipped the floor with the 2008 redeem team
Shannon on Kobe vs. Jordan: I got the tongue and I got a bit more hair than you.
Kobe vs MJ = even Bron vs Magic = even It boils down to the other players🤷🏾♂️
Groundhog Day begins again.......
@soolthegreat1581
Жыл бұрын
Real Rap
@richardramos8218
Жыл бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Bro you need help, copy and paste every LeBron/MJ video 🤣🤣🤣
@vicepresidentmikepence889
Жыл бұрын
@@richardramos8218 You're right. Even before I saw your comment. deleted my comment. this video in not a goat debatre
This team isn’t beating the 92 dream team; that squad to big in the paint would dominate the boards and still had decent shooting with Stockton and Mullin of the bench.
@fatality1249
Жыл бұрын
Human race evolves my guy no chance dream team wins. It’s common sense
@mak23997
Жыл бұрын
@@fatality1249 i’m a doctor but apparently missed the course in medical school that explains that humans are doubling in height, tripling speed, and evolving incredible skill sets every 20 years
@mattybuu4910
Жыл бұрын
@@mak23997 The university of Juarez must've skipped evolution courses
@Marlowe10100
Жыл бұрын
@@fatality1249 It's seems the other way around my guy. People look more stupid than ever in social media, the best philosophers, artists and intelectuals are dead hundreds of years ago.
@fatality1249
Жыл бұрын
@@Marlowe10100 it’s not the other way around. We benefit from the ones who paved the way and we use their discovery and add it to our game and improve them. Kyrie don’t have the best handles ever for no reason it’s because plenty of great dribbler paved the way for him discovered new moves. Kyrie did what? Add them to his game, and improved them better than anyone. You probably think I’m questioning their greatness but I’m not. The player from the dream team as a whole are greater but theyre just not better
Let's take the obvious out of the picture, MJ, Magic, Lebron, Kobe. '92 frontcourt was something else. Not only you had Chuck who could rattle the stuffings out of Melo, you then had Malone, Ewing and Robinson in rotation vs Dwight and Bosh. And I didn't even get to Scottie yet, who could guard anything. Clyde coming off the bench to get his buckets, Mullin and Larry off the bench for some 3's, Stock who could faciliate immensely, great perimeter D, I mean, the Dream Team also had crazy depth and insane rotations. I'd go with the Dream Team.
2008 Olympic wade was scary!🔥
Who guards Barkley, the highest scoring member of the Dream Team? He averaged 18 points on a .711 fg percentage in just 18 mins of playing time.
@bryanttisdale2446
Жыл бұрын
Good question. Most coaches probably put Kobe on M.J. MELO on Magic as both all offense no D LeBron on Barkley D.Howard on Ewing/ Robertson D. Wade on Drexler Or if Bird starts its T. Prince/ Bosh With Kidd on Stockton.
@bryanttisdale2446
Жыл бұрын
@@jdankerdake LeBron would be the Mismatch. If Bird was in his prime at 6 9' he would have the height but he would get destroyed in foot speed and Athleticism.
@TheMaster3194
Жыл бұрын
tyson Chandler in prime
Man I feel like that 1996 Dream Team get overlooked. They would beat the Redeem Team Penny Grant Pippen Dream Shaq
@mariovh
Жыл бұрын
I saw 1994 in Toronto & 1996 in Atlanta Live ..both teams were Amazing but they weren’t the Dream Team And like you said …the Redeem Team would win against those
Lol that mj n the 3 point contest 😂😂😂 skip was not trynna talk about that
Just because the Redeem team was more modern doesn’t mean they were more athletic. MJ, Pip, Barkley, Robinson Magic etc we’re athletic af
The great MJ in his prime w/the tongue hanging😛 out on both ends of the floor, need I say more......6RINGZ!!!!
People keep forgetting that the 2008 team was trailing in the second half to Spain. If Spain could do that to the 2008 team, so could the 1992 squad (and then some). But the thing that the 2008 team lacks is guys to guard Robinson, Ewing, Malone, and Barkley.
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
Redeem Team bigs were getting KILLED by the Gasol Brothers. Imagine what the Dream Team bigs would do to them.
@sulwhale3171
Жыл бұрын
@@xaviervega468 Gasol were not bad tho even today at old age they were dropping huge numbers
Skip: “Goat Different” 4:57 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
kobe was in awe of mike? MJ wanted to get out the league when he got a glimpse of kobe
@poocrayon4588
Жыл бұрын
Except instead he won another MVP and ring. Kobe was in awe of Mike - that's why he literally copied his entire game and personal style and personality
@phatch5444
Жыл бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 you realize kobe only started 7 games while mike was in the league right?
92 with ease. Ewing/Robinson/Malone/Barkley would destroy them on the glass, and in the post. MJ would eat, but I like a young Pippen vs Lebron at any age. If it was a series 92 in 5 or 6 games.
@V12BenzAMG
Жыл бұрын
nice point...I think Pippen would have been much harder on Lebron than people think...Pippen was sooooo looooong...his defense was phenomenal
@ImRacistTowardsBlacks
Жыл бұрын
Pippen struggled MIGHTLY against Grant Hill so explain how he's gonna stop a top 5player ever LMAOOOO
@terell2k12
Жыл бұрын
@@ImRacistTowardsBlacks I recall him shutting down the greatest playmaker/PG of all time in the NBA Finals in 91. When has Grant Hill ever played a meaningful game?
@ImRacistTowardsBlacks
Жыл бұрын
@@terell2k12 Magic 91 finals. 18.6 ppg, 8 reb, 12.4 apg THATS SHUTTING DOWN LMAOOOOO
@terell2k12
Жыл бұрын
@@ImRacistTowardsBlacks 4-1 yes it is.