When a person says they want a "kindergarten type society", disregard their ideological beliefs.

@Semino1eC4

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to point this out myself, it inherently implies that there should be an adult figure that runs your life for you.

@Noperare

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking all adults are overgrown children that needs daddy state. Not only he is looking down on 99% of population, he assumes there is a group of "superior" adults that should rule us all.

@jacobhargiss3839

2 жыл бұрын

@@Semino1eC4 well, when your so stupid that you actually do need adult supervision, you probably would think everyone else does too. Its the same reason people want to ban guns, they cant trust themselves with them so they assume everyone else is the same.

@LordZandersSoapbox4811

2 жыл бұрын

Of course a person who is in the elite class is always morally and ethically superior to us lowly plebs, Not!! Forgot this guy

@flagflow1232

2 жыл бұрын

True. A society in which a small group of people orders a larger group of people when to eat, when to sleep and when to play is not an ideal society by any means.

Funny that he stars in “Stranger Things” a show which celebrates the 80’s which exemplifies the best aspects of capitalism and was really a time everyone looks back on fondly because of that

@iudexvoluntas3529

2 жыл бұрын

Its where we went from a working productive society. To a vapid failing mindless consumer based system of nihilism.

@RoverIAC

2 жыл бұрын

someone should tell him to share his wage with the people at the boarder.

@everywherecat9824

2 жыл бұрын

The 80s were the beginning of our gigantic debt based economy, and those economic ideas are why our countries economy crashed hard.

@kurtwagner350

2 жыл бұрын

@@everywherecat9824 no it definitely isn’t responsible for the current economic crisis, economy’s always crash every 10-15 years its not some thing that has only happened once and can be traced back decades, in fact the 80’s came directly after one of the worst economic decades in America’s history so I have no clue how you’re drawing these conclusions, and the us was hardly in debt then anyways

@everywherecat9824

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtwagner350 The economy went close to 70 years without a crash before Ronald Reagan deregulated and we immediately hit the S&L crises. These recent crashes are absolutely due to deregulation. I would give anything for an economy as robust as the 70s. I'd have much cheaper housing, cost of living, higher wages more purchasing power. We didn't have super wealthy elites in the abundance we do now. So is that what you are talking about?

You should do a video about how alot of newer Comicbook characters have been insisting that Superheroes should "do more", which has become increasingly prominent in recent years, ​with even a recent DC comic having Jon Kent telling his dad, Superman, that he should be "doing more". ​Even though for a lot of heroes "doing more" would mean stepping on individual liberties, and forcing others to do whatever the "Hero" thinks is right

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sad about the state of the industry.

@BigJoker

2 жыл бұрын

I think in many ways he touches on that in the Jupiter's Legacy review.

@Jar0fMay0

2 жыл бұрын

I've been seeing that a lot lately. It came out in The Falcon & The Winter Soldier. What does that even mean. It's such a vague comment.

@chillstoneblakeblast3172

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Animal Farm and how the horse was the only one that was doing significant work to the mill, only for the communist pigs to ask more from him even though he did the best job. Communist want to suck up the good people and Ideas dry for their own gain and not for the people.

@heavyhittersirl

2 жыл бұрын

How bout we ask Marvel to give an account as to why none of their characters seem to wear masks for the COVID. Covid was avoided completely.

LMFAO this guy thinks the barista should get all the starbucks profits yet doesn't bat an eye when he gets a $20mil paycheck for one movie while the gaffer gets $12/hr

@hrdley911

2 жыл бұрын

BINGO!

@npcimknot958

2 жыл бұрын

I bet you the person that collected the material and made that suit, didnt even get close to what he made.. the makeup artist that are some of the FIRST to arrive on set and last to leave.. didn't get paid near him.. the personal driver and person fetching him his Starbucks.. didn't get paid 💩.. nor have any say in the movie.. but ya.. he's the hero in this story LOL.. he is so delusional.. i hate people like that.. and working on sets when i was struggling to make my hours to apply for actra, i couldn't even continue because i couldn't continue paying for expensive makeup while being only paid 25$ for my kit.. mind you .. i was being paid with " experience".. well that experience doesn't pay for transportation , nor food.. and it got too expensive.. felt so exploited i couldn't continue.. The world isn't fair.. the movie industry is the LAST to sjw preach... when opportunity isn't not equal.. you need money.. and connections.. to even stay in the game to even get an opportunity. But ya.. he's so stunning and brave lol * rolls eyes. I'm glad stranger things and stuff isn't really that popular anymore.

@DontEvenLiftBro

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t get paid close to that much but I see what you’re saying.

@VoiceofNH

2 жыл бұрын

When AOC said "Tax the rich" (or her dress did) does a $20 million paycheck make him one of "them" too?

@hrs29

2 жыл бұрын

@@npcimknot958 But that will be the first, because their propaganda is important. Thus when everyone is equal they will be MORE equal.

Lately I often remind myself a line I've heard about actors: "Actors aren't very smart. If they were, they wouldn't have to pretend they are someone else."

For the Starbucks thing, who bought the coffee? Who got you the machines? Who payed for the water to be pumped into the building so you have water? For them to own the coffee they make they need to supply all of those things and own the building, then we can talk.

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

Who will pay the debts if that business goes bankrupt? They will get the severance pay and their only responsibility will be to look for another job.

@theaccordian9377

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, that's too complex for left wingers.

@Tyjohnable

2 жыл бұрын

Also the taxes on the property and the electricity.

The coffee analogy is a great example of a terrible analogy. It reminds me of a woman who defended the "vaccines" getting approved quickly by saying when she orders a dress online, the quality is no different if she picks next day shipping or two week shipping, just the process to get it to her is streamlined. Failing to understand (perhaps intentionally) that the dress is not made the moment you click the button. Harbour makes a similar fallacy in assuming the barista or any worker is wholly responsible for the product being created.

@DanteTheSimpSlayer

2 жыл бұрын

If they want worker run businesses... they can have it under capitalism. why is it so hard for them to get this?

@alej15pr

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanteTheSimpSlayer because we have capitalism now and yet worker owned businesses and unions are constantly being fought against and oppressed by big business owners and the politicians they own. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@DanteTheSimpSlayer

2 жыл бұрын

@@alej15pr capitalism literally means free trade, so its not stopping you. literally nobody is stopping you from forming a company that is owned by workers. get a bunch of your retarded idiots and make a company that is owned by all of you. if it's so great, you will out-compete everyone and then you can lead by example

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

They don't even think because this scenario is circulated as a fact and used so many times as a justification without really thinking about the implications.

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

@@alej15pr In my ex communist countries the Unions are ruled by pro communists people.tget don't care about the people they represent but about power and how much wealth can gain fir their own use therefore when they call for a strike, it is for a stupid reason who doesn't help the workers much but who puts pressure on the pro EU gouvernement. When their pockets are full, you see them being "elected" as a Senator in the pro Russian party. Even in France where the syndicates are strong they don't do very much for the workers.

The thing that always annoys me greatly is when celebrities who support communism/socialism also benefit from capitalism, a system they claim they hate

@tbc1880

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone who supports it thinks they will be the ones on top instead of the first to go.

@steviegilliam5685

2 жыл бұрын

@@tbc1880 exactly

@szeltovivarsydroxan9944

2 жыл бұрын

But that's the thing. They don't hate capitalism. They claim they do, because they don't want YOU to acquire wealth, but keep their own.

@AndrooUK

2 жыл бұрын

These celebrities are required to condone these ridiculous ideals, like they are with 'equity' and 'racial justice', because it pays the bills. I'm sure they all have financial advisors that tell them socialism and communism would destroy their portfolios, except where they can cosy up to the leaders and/or buy their way to profitability.

@astarteswillum5259

2 жыл бұрын

@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Unfortunately for them, that's not how Socialism works out. These idiots might as well say bye bye to their money if socialism is allowed to take over.

It's too bad, because I love David Harbor as an actor but I completely believe he is an absolute buffoon when it comes to economics.

@MrInternetHermit

2 жыл бұрын

Economics is so complex, it's hard for anyone who doesn't have a master degree in it to not be a buffoon, and sometimes even then .....

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrInternetHermit But still, I think you know better than to make huge statements based on silly arguments, right?

@MrInternetHermit

2 жыл бұрын

@@elenabob4953 Of course, where most people fail is to think things through/critically to realize what's a good argument & what's a silly one.

@astarteswillum5259

2 жыл бұрын

Most actors are.

@Tyjohnable

2 жыл бұрын

Not just economics. Remember when he called for punching people in the face?

I'd like to point out that Starbucks is a publicly traded company; if a barista WANTS to own part of the company, there's nothing stopping them from buying some shares.

People can get yeeted off of movie sets for having the wrong opinion 12 years ago on Twitter. YET, This smooth brain is allowed to operate and in fact, promoted. How. Odd.☕️ 🎩 🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

@hhgff778

2 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about Twitter still does that.

@Snakedude4life

2 жыл бұрын

@@hhgff778 Not for socialists, commies or MAPS.

@Juanguar

2 жыл бұрын

@@hhgff778 he means if you said something 12 years ago twitter will yeet you

@hhgff778

2 жыл бұрын

@@Snakedude4life true

@hhgff778

2 жыл бұрын

@@Juanguar oh, ok

guy with opposing views: "what happens communism is complete and the world is a utopia?" twitter communist: "well plant trees, share food and water, maybe ill start my own farm..." guy with opposing views: "YOUR FARM?"

@Kriegter

2 жыл бұрын

jreg comes to mind

@anothertarnishedone5960

2 жыл бұрын

You don't know what communism is, right?

@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262

Жыл бұрын

@@anothertarnishedone5960 Peasants who owned farms were literally rounded up and executed in the USSR, so their land could be redistributed under the management of communist party bureaucrats whose terrible guidance resulted in the Soviet Famines of the 1930s. It's literally what communists did, several times across several nations at that. Spare us your stupid rhetorical questions when you don't even know the first thing about communism.

@snakedogman

Жыл бұрын

They always think they'll be doing some cushy, vaguely creative job that's not too hard. Grow their own veggies, have a lot of free time for self developments etc. Yeah ok, so who's doing all the hard labour in this utopia exactly? Who builds your house and makes sure clean water comes out of the tap? Who manages your waste and sewage? They tend to conveniently forget about all the people (almost exclusively men) doing all the hard and dirty jobs that keep modern society functioning.

@Nikita-ze8ii

Жыл бұрын

@@snakedogman even Marx already said that full communism like you describe it would be a matter of automation. It's nice to fantasize but it's important for socialists to recognize that they likely won't see the day any of this happens, whether it be because greed for profit destroys us or because the day is too far in the future.

The coffee that you make is not yours. How about the person who grew the coffee beans? How about the person who imported the beans and roasted them? How about the person who trained you to make the coffee? How about the person who bought the coffee machine with which you made the coffee with? With David Harbour's intensely flawed logic, you own maybe at most 10-15% of the coffee you made.

@Povole

2 жыл бұрын

The coffee is owned by the customer... who just bought it. Make the coffee.

@I.____.....__...__

7 ай бұрын

Where'd you get 10-15%? Is it based on actual data or just a random guess? Regardless,10-15% is still better than what Starbucks lets you keep. At _best,_ Starbucks lets you keep maybe 13% which is actually based on _best-case_ scenario figures as reported by franchisees of $3,800 per day profit paid to 5 employees at (over minimum-wage) $12.5/hour over a 8hr/day. The numbers are pretty conservative, but hey, I'm not trying to destroy capitalism here, only the OP's comment. 😛

The thing is they do think experts can plan the economy cause they also feel consumer demands should be ignored and you should have what the elites want you to have.

@michaelmurphy2112

2 жыл бұрын

Well, if only certain things are available, then that's all you can have. Economy planned!

@brianschwatka3655

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmurphy2112 sadly for many that isn't sarcasm that is their honest to god belief system

@marcaldovino264

2 жыл бұрын

don"t like ur own comments, it makes you look like a narcissist

@vic_1726

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmurphy2112 That's literally what was life under Soviet Union.

We should socialize David Harbour's wealth to all the comrades. Let's see how he likes living by his own bs.

@UnbeltedSundew

2 жыл бұрын

He's like that guy from Rage Against the Machine. Socialism for thee, not for mee.

@jacobhargiss3839

2 жыл бұрын

Ever notice how its almost always the incredibly wealthy that say they want socialism but still keep their wealth? Its like they know they're too irresponsible to have it and just want it confiscated. In contrast, the poor usually just want to keep what they earn.

@BenWard29

2 жыл бұрын

Most of us are hypocrites in some way. Also- if you think that the systems in the U.S. can't get better, you must live in quite the wonderful bubble. But it's definitely more fun to tear some actor down than actually suggest real and substantive change and try to make things better, am I right?

@UnbeltedSundew

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenWard29 Better? In what sense? Why shouldn't we tear down people who propose things that will make things demonstrably worse, for everyone, when they make such stupid statements.

@jacobhargiss3839

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenWard29 you dont need to suggest change to be able to say what changes we shouldnt make. No one thinks that the US cant get better, but its not going to via socialism.

“You will own nothing and be happy…”

@TheBelrick

2 жыл бұрын

This; also ; good people dont progress in hollywood, one of the cancers that gave birth to communism in the usa

@anothertarnishedone5960

2 жыл бұрын

Well, we have everything and obviously we are not happy. So maybe is time to try a different approach.

Makes it all the more satisfying to watch Denzel asphyxiate this dude in The Equalizer.

@Noperare

2 жыл бұрын

Considering that Denzel supports Sowell economical theory, that is pretty much "a chad capitalist vs a virgin socialist" meme.

@Ellebeeby

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noperare shit, Denzel’s onto Thomas Sowell’s stuff? Awesome.

@szeltovivarsydroxan9944

2 жыл бұрын

Was that in the first one or the second Equalizer?

@songbird7450

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noperare It says quite something about the horrible ideas going around in those social circles that simply finding out about Denzel's appreciation for Sowell made me smile.

@007kingifrit

2 жыл бұрын

makes it all the more satisfying to not buy the equalizer in the first place....i don't give money to socialists

Man, this video breaks my heart but is also so relatable to me. I myself am an immigrant who has suffered at the hands of a socialist country in Africa. Worse, I lived there for 27 years and moved to the US three years ago. I was very lucky to be educated and get a degree in engineering because of my parents. But, as time goes by my country only became worse with nearly 76% of the population fleeing out the country. All this was because of the collective ideas that the government wanted to enforce the laws and regulations of USSR/China based policies. It has been in power for 32 years now. Suddenly we can't own simple things like cars, opening a business, and even the internet. Worse, you had to have a government clearance to buy water because there isn't a water system in the country at all. Any post secondarily education is seeing with suspicion by the government. Media is also completely controlled and only shows socialist ideas that favor it. That said I am extremely sad to see people rooting for socialism with the intention to destroy a far better state thinking they’re not free. Yes, America is not perfect, but running around and destroying and burning for the sake of socialist ideas is truly disappointing. Please I beg you to recognize the good, and not be fooled by mainstream media or even Twitter. The media will have you believing Iran and China are great countries indeed but know better don't be naive. I am really grateful to live in the U.S. because there are many who beg to have the same opportunity. You've seen Afghanis, Venezuelans, Libyans trying to escape desperately out their countries. I only wish to see this nation prosper by overcoming the difficulties we face collectively and by our righteous individual actions. I pray that people wake up with the greater good.

@randomcenturion7264

Жыл бұрын

Given how bad Black Widow flopped, I'd say it's message didn't really resonate with a lot of people.

@AkshayKumar-vd5wn

Жыл бұрын

May I ask which country in Africa? I heard Rawanda is doing better.

*TWO counter-arguments against "workers owning the factory"* 1) The workers get a share of the profit. Do they also get a share of the debt? If the company goes bankrupt, do the workers need to pay out of their bank account? A specific example: Actors in a movie. If the movie is a success they get more, but if it is a flop? 2) The stock market. If a worker wants to tie their wealth to that of the company they work for, they can buy shares of that company at the stock market.

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

That's kinda the thing... If you are an actual owner, you get profits *and* losses, depending on how the company does, but nobody seems to want that part. It's also perfectly possible to buy stocks, as you said, or set up your own company that gives equal ownership to all workers... All of that was always allowed under a private, free market economy.

@moestietabarnak

2 жыл бұрын

@@FEEonline the owner doesn't pay from their bank account, they lost ONLY what invested in the company, that what INCORPORATION is for.

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

@@moestietabarnak not sure how that's a response.

@moestietabarnak

2 жыл бұрын

@@FEEonline it say what it said ! The worker tend to risk MORE then the owner without any say in the decision. MORE meaning standard of living, PERSONAL risk , not more money. We're not talking mom&pop''s owner we're talking BILLIONS dollars company, at this stage, the owner(s) has limited liability.

@drakejoy2902

2 жыл бұрын

@@moestietabarnak how does the worker tend to risk more? I mean you can just change jobs. Since you know you're not in a contract you're probably a blue collar worker. Which means you can find another blue collar job.

A basic point you overlooked in the Starbucks example, is the person combining the ingredients also didn’t pay for the building, the equipment, the tables, chairs, coffee cups, coffee beans, milk, water or anything else that is needed for that business to actually operate, not to mention, the employee not only gets paid to make coffee, but even gets paid if not a single person comes in and buys coffee that day, nor are they on the hook for any other business costs.

@nm-cp4ck

2 жыл бұрын

not to mention the brand awareness, paperwork, accounting, negotiations with other companies, public relations, and a billion other things needed for a successful business that socialists completely neglect

@Chipwhitley274

2 жыл бұрын

Uh... he made that exact point... apparently you overlooked it...

Ah, so when will David harbor share his wealth to us workers then? Oh wait, he's a wealthy celebrity, so probably never

@sebastianrobbins9601

2 жыл бұрын

You can remove the word probably

People like Harbour are why people like me end up needing to leave their countries of origin and homes to protect themselves from the abuse of petty tyrants and bureaucrats. Ignorant populists can ruin any nation on earth, and deserve all the spite they have coming to them.

@damiantirado9616

2 жыл бұрын

I live in a socialist country and it’s perfect even better than America. Homelessness has almost completely gone away and being poor in my country is like being middle class in America.

@sergiomypool

Жыл бұрын

@@damiantirado9616 what's your country?

@MrRogerogerio

10 ай бұрын

​@@sergiomypoolAny surprise they didn't answer your question to this day?

@sergiomypool

10 ай бұрын

@@MrRogerogerio lmao

I owned a coffee shop before covid ran it to the ground... When harbour said that I immediately became enraged. An employees work is nowhere near the dedication and work an owner puts in. It's a slap to my face and every owners face .

@supergobgoblin424

Жыл бұрын

Leftists are not human

@supergobgoblin424

Жыл бұрын

They are cockroaches waiting to be stomp

Being born and raised in a socialist country, you don't know how much I roll my eyes when hearing those bourgeoise hollywood actors praising socialism.

It makes me wonder? If they love socialism so much, why don't they go and live in a country that does socialism. I prefer to buy products that I want and vote with my wallet.

I think it is suitably ironic that the theoretical AI Overlord needed to actually run a socialist economy could only exsist and be created via Capitalism.

@caralho5237

2 жыл бұрын

Socialism could only work if we were wired like ants There are always emergent and unpredictable demands in capitalism that can only be satisfied by a free, flexible market Only way for a government to efficiently run a economy would be by lobotomizing every citizen so that they wouldn't think for themselves and question their bad decisions

@averageleson

2 жыл бұрын

It could theoretically be created under socialism as well, it just depends on the mode of distribution of resources

Babe wake up, new Foundation for Economic Education video

12:14 "I struggle to imagine why anyone does [support socialism]." Dude, the answer is right there in the title of your video: "Childish"

I'm a manager at Pizza hut. I have seen the kind of crap that goes into just a single day's work. Between the suppliers and the product manufacturers, it's not as easy as all that

Honestly love the work of this channel and I would say that I'm personally more aligned with this channels thinking than a lot of the other KZreadrs I've seen online. I do keep tabs on content creators on the other side of the spectrum, with the most recent one being "second thought" who I view as a more radical socialist. Would love to maybe see in the future FEE making somewhat of a response video or an exploration for one of their videos.

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

We're working on a response video to Second Thought, but not for this series. I think that would be a little weird to do on Out of Frame.

@deekay9441

2 жыл бұрын

@@FEEonline That makes sense, I was just hoping that there would be an response video done by the FEE team in another series since you guys do such great work with the Out of Frame series. Looking forward to seeing it!

@sonofsueraf

2 жыл бұрын

Good lord, that channel's disgusting.

@steelxspider5274

2 жыл бұрын

@@FEEonline which series will it be posted tho?

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

@@steelxspider5274 it's slow going, but something totally new, probably. I may end up doing a different reaction though, not sure.

While I agree with almost everything in the video. There is one thing I would like to dispute. Starbucks is over priced. Everything on their menu can be obtained at places like Perera Bread Company at a lower price.

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

Ready for a mind-blowing fact? I don't drink coffee. I couldn't care less about Starbucks personally. But... It was the example Harbour chose, so here we are.

@NYG5

2 жыл бұрын

That's why we have a choice between SB, Panera, Dunkin Donuts, the gas station coffee, etc

@BigJoker

2 жыл бұрын

Lol at mentioning Panera when attempting to bring up cheaper options

@jeanniemaycrawford4466

2 жыл бұрын

@@NYG5 I love Dunkin donuts, a real shame what they did with their new logo

@NYG5

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 what, did they turn it into a rainbiw flag now?

I always find it rich when a Hollywood celebrity preaches about socialism and/or identity politics. He’s probably only saying this because Disney Plus took most of his revenue lmao

I mean, this movie had Black Widow sever her olfactory nerve by smashing her head on a desk as a key plot point. I didn't expect the crew to be Mensa tier.

@Noperare

2 жыл бұрын

That was so dumb. What if she had a gun and shot him from range? Heck, it is not like he is a super skilled fighter, she could just hold her breath and attack him.

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

What do you want? Do you think it is Mensa level when in the previously movie she died falling from a cliff while in this one she falls from every building in existence but she survives without major injuries every single time?

@SamaritanPrime

2 жыл бұрын

See, here's the thing: Melina told Natasha pretty much everything she needed to know, so Nat should have known about the pheromone Dreykov was using and wore a gas mask. It should be able to filter out said pheromone, and Nat could just shoot Dreykov on sight.

11:11 this is actually something that I once heard while watching a video discussing the conflicts of the Middle East and the economics that led to them. To anyone reading this, I highly recommend checking out the series on it, titled "What the Gulf?" by a guy called brain4breakfast, the videos are wonderfully drawn, edited, and narrated, and his content is very educational for anyone wanting to watch it. But basically, when discussing the economics that helped lead to the confusing mess which is the Middle East right now, notably trade of valuable goods, he says this: "No one knows how to make a cup of coffee. The inputs seem simple. But each input needs its own inputs, and each iteration of that process gets deeper and more ludicrous, until eventually the web you've weaved looks like an entire civilization. Planning this is a monstrous task." Just thought I'd bring that up, because it seems interesting compared to your statement on this same thing. So, yeah. Hope you have a great day, and I can't wait to see your next video.

@KerbalFacile

2 жыл бұрын

The lovelies at HowToMakeEverything probably can brew coffee from scratch - like how they made cola soda entirely from hand-foraged resources - but they also would make a point of how ludicrously expensive it would be on one's own, how long and painstaking a process, and how vast a training you'd need to even get started.

@nickhollerauer4295

2 жыл бұрын

@@KerbalFacile Yeah, wasn't there a guy who tried to make a chicken sandwich literally from scratch, i.e. growing the wheat for the bread, making the tools for growing the wheat by hand, sourcing a chicken from somewhere, slaughtering it with hand made tools, finding a cow to get the milk to produce the cheese, etc., and it ended up costing like $10,000 before he gave up altogether?

@straits9260

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, its very sad brain4breakfast passed away

Gotta say, the younger sister was actually a fun character for the most part. They gave her some funny lines and moments I really liked. I wouldn't mind seeing her take Black Widow's place in later Marvel films if they keep giving her good (or better) writing and character development. That is, if I even bother to watch any more Marvel films. I started losing interest after Age of Ultron. Everyone one else was forgettable for me though, including Black Widow. I laughed at her solution to defeating the villain. There were several easier solutions to her problem that didn't require her to do anything as dramatic as what she did.

Great video! I appreciate all of the ones that you make. They help me articulate arguments and create my own world views!

@TheBelrick

2 жыл бұрын

In answer to his question, why does anyone support socialism? Because it grants enormous power to the hands of ruling elites who therefor motivated to indoctrinate humanity through propaganda selling socialism as an utopian ideology.

"now let's be honest, most people aren't smart enough to rule themselves, frankly. but nobody is smart enough to rule other people." -Technoblade, 2021

[slow clap] I love Harbour as an actor. But man oh man, we do NOT need to endorse the ideas of actors who are WAY WAY outside their area of expertise. Harbour is just flat wrong here.

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know what age you are but I still remember the period where the actors have been considered an ideal, you don't know very much about them and their beliefs so they could be a blank slate ready to take on every role possible. I really miss those times. I don't say that they must be like robots but more to realize that it is a think called over sharing and they should be sensitive enough not to cross that line.

Another excellent entry into this series. We'll done .

Ugh as someone who throughout high school fell victim to the tankie narrative this stuff makes me cringe. Every time I see people like David Harbour make these fallacious short sighted arguments it truly makes me feel uncomfortable. I hope he learns more about the inner workings of such systems he seems to idolize so he can understand why people become disenchanted by such false “utopias”, I’m sure glad I did.

It reminds me of this stupid internet meme about how Superman *really* should’ve been helping people, which is to say that instead of stopping crime and being a model citizen, he should hook himself to a treadmill and reduce his power to generating enough energy to power the populace.

I have a two year old so let me level. My son at two has learnt the word "mine" and while he will share, he also wants it for himself at other times. There is no equality in a 'kindergarden' type system. As a single mother, so I will work harder to put my son through activities and pay for education. I am grown up enough not to blame society. The choice to have my son was mine and I am happy to pay the price, which means working a dead end job to improve my son's lot.

@quantumaxe6468

2 жыл бұрын

I commend you for sense of accountability. Not many will accept responsibility for their choices, especially single mothers.

@Andrea-fd2bw

2 жыл бұрын

The choices are Only partly yours,you live in a society who allows your son to have an education and you to be protected by the law and by other citizens

Just look at what his early life was: - Harbour was born in White Plains, New York - Both of his parents work in real estate, his mother in residential and his father in commercial. - Graduated from Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, in 1997. - 1999, professional acting career started I bet that boy didn't work ONE single day in his life with the parent's money.

I had no idea that the staff at the FEE was so diverse! That's pretty cool! I also want to add that I really appreciate the subtitles in your videos. I really wish more creators would follow your lead with that. Keep up the excellent work you guys!

Maybe there are those out there that believe there are these magic seeds that make factories where workers "make" coffee.

HA! I knew you couldn’t help yourself with inserting “The Greater Good”. Nice

@11jerans

2 жыл бұрын

Damn Tau

So whatever happened to Arash? I remember him from the video on The Joker.

Out of Frame is the best video series on youtube, fantastic job as always!

Great way to start the day!!

Thanks for this video! You guys have a way of explaining everything in incredibly easy to understand terms. Also great to get some background about who those at FEE are! Keep it up!

I don't know how you can thumbs down this video. Unless you are a new hire at Starbucks....

This series always does an amazing job taking a big concept and distilling it down to it's core premises. Thanks for all the work you all do!

his check should be split with all the names in the credits that made the movie

Actual people who used to live under socialism: "It sucked ass, then we got genocided, starved and then it sucked ass some more" 1st world rich people: "OMG SOCIALISM SO GOOD!!! YUMMY!!!"

In the original Cosmos, hosted by Carl Sagan, a scene begins with a waiter walking through an empty restaurant with an apple pie, placing it in front of Mr. Sagan who, in his usual calm, paced tone sets the scene. "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." N H Kendall 2 September, 2018

The simplest and most effective answer to “the people who make the coffee at Starbucks should own it” is: ok, go make some coffee then. He’d have to admit he can’t make it, and while he’d like to blame the world and capitalism, the truth of it is that he doesn’t have any coffee beans, doesn’t know how to grow them, doesn’t have milk or raise cattle, he knows nothing, has nothing of productive value. He is forced to recognize that he didn’t make the coffee on his own, and that pouring the coffee into a cup wasn’t the most important step, and certainly not the only one. That the evil corporation actually did serve a role.

The same guy who cash in for autographs from people loves that idelology? Illarious xD !

Children are usually very selfish untill they have a sense of ownership. Once they feel that they own something, they will voluntarily share. Forcing them to share will make them very selfish...

The starbucks analogy falls quickly when you realize who bought the coffee beans, who bought the machines to make the coffee, who bought the cups where the coffee is poured, etc.

The amount of people who actually think that socialism is just "sharing stuff" and have zero interest in knowing anything else about it is pretty shocking. This is truly kindergarten level knowledge and reasoning, and yet we see it time and time again in mainstream discourse and taken seriously too.

You guys keep knocking it out of the park. Probably my favorite channel on all of KZread. And I watch a lot of KZread.

This is a great thing your doing here, using pop culture as a jumping of point to talk about stuff that is generally hard to talk about! Using movies also adds entertainment for keep attention!! 🇨🇦

Wow I didn’t realize how many of the people at FEE have experienced socialism

I always love when the cry 'but what about workers cooperatives!' yeah, what about them? nothing and no on is saying you can't create a workers cooperative right now and compete against traditional business models you know? 'but, but, that wouldn't be fair!' even THEY know 'workers cooperatives,' (or any other socialistic type system) aren't efficient enough to stand on their own without requiring government to intervene on their behalf.

@gusmc2220

2 жыл бұрын

@Zain Eleissa lol ok, here we go, HOW would they be "completely busted" in a capitalist system exactly? And what are you trying to say "it's not about quality in a capitalist system, it's about brand i..." are you trying to say brand image? How does it help brand image to make an inferior product? You understand if a company regularly produces an inferior product at a higher price then they will garner the reputation for being overpriced junk and their competition who can provide a quality product for a comparable price will end up getting more business. It's as simple as that. So obviously there must be a balance between quality, price and demand. That is pretty basic knowledge. And something planned economies fail miserably at Did you just give up on your own argument half way through? P.S. be precise with how worker's cooperatives "would be completely busted" in a capitalist system, I don't want you to just move the goalposts when you end up proving my original point.

@gusmc2220

2 жыл бұрын

@Zain Eleissa "Sorry busted I mean go bankrupt and probably sell all their property to a bigger company" LMAO you're making my point for me, if 'workers co-op's' are actually competitive then why would they be going bankrupt in the first place? see you're dodging the issue which is proving my point for me. "about the quality thing if a big company's product sucks and is at a high price they can just buy the competition just like the above" and what, create a monopoly? you do realize there are anti trust laws already in place correct? better yet show me an example of a monopoly in manufacturing currently. give me one example of there being a produce where only one company produces that type of product and I will concede the point, barring a real example I have to say you are full of it and pushing a false narrative as if it were fact but you want to know where there basically IS a monopoly now? big tech and social media. now THERE is where we need some more regulation if we need it anywhere. please get serious and be precise, like I asked you already, because I grow tired of your vague, unsubstantiated statements: _"Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by and named after journalist, author, and public speaker Christopher Hitchens. Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"_ you've been warned, I will give you one more chance to be exact and precise in your argument and to give actual real world examples or I will dismiss you as wrong out of hand. because the narrative in your mind is not proof of how things are in reality, and in my opinion if your narrative does not match reality it is YOU and YOUR narrative that must change not reality to match what you WANT it to be.

@gusmc2220

2 жыл бұрын

@Zain Eleissa ok. g'night

@gusmc2220

2 жыл бұрын

@Zain Eleissa I don't think you understand what a monopoly is if you believe McDonald's is one. There is Burger King, Carl's Jr., Jack in the Box, Friday's, Whata Burger, Lotta Burger, and many many more alternatives to McDonald's. Just because a company is large does not make it a monopoly, and in fact McDonald's is a perfect example that refutes your argument about a company making an overpriced inferior product, the 'food' McDonald's makes is definitely inferior, but it is not overpriced. And I personally refuse to eat there, spending significantly more at the local mom and pop dinner instead because the Burger they make is larger, better tasting and healthier. Hence why I am willing to pay more for it. So no, no one has gathered all the world's food and forced you to 'stuck his dick' for a hamburger. That is exactly the situation I am asking you to find me in reality though. The good ol 'island' thought experiment that socialist love to banter around even though it is completely impractical and nonsensical. Want to know whats a more apt comparison? You find yourself alone on a desert island paradise, food in the trees, clean water flowing from a spring from atop a hill, heck even a cave for shelter in the mountain side. But you're on the beach, in the blazing sun, you'll die if you don't move. How do you survive in this literal paradise without doing any work? Its going to take effort just to get off the beach, you're thirsty? You have to climb the hill, you're hungry? How are you going to get food out of the tree with zero effort? It's getting dark and cold? Better gather wood for a fire and climb to that cave before you die! But make sure not to put forward any effort!... The natural order of things is you work or you die, even in a paradise with no one around to "oppress" you I believe you are at least arguing in good faith. And I appreciate that. I don't plan on ignoring you for now

Excellent vid. This may catch quite a bit of heat.

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

Bring it.

why everything must be polytized? when entertainment stopped being for entertain and become politic? sorry for my english

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

No problem regarding your English, I have understood what you've meant. It started at least 20 years ago when I have started replacing the music and Hollywood movies with the Asian ones.

Alexei and Melina were probably the worst parts of the movie for me. They were both agents of an ideology that collapsed with the Soviet Union into the dustbin of history, and yet they still work towards that goal. Both of them knew the Red Room, knew what it was about, and willingly turned over two innocent little girls to the Red Room and subjected to untold horrors. Look at what the Red Room does to its agents: - forced hysterectomies - removal of bodily autonomy through psychological conditioning (later chemical control) - Taskmaster straight-up got the Darth Vader treatment Alexei and Melina eventually come to see that they made a huge mistake to turn over Natasha and Yelena, but I'm not so sure they both understood just how and why it was a mistake. Alexei specifically does not quite seem to get it, though we do see him start to see that he did... something wrong. Melina, though, is pretty much a mad scientist in a catsuit. She developed the chemical programming the current generation of Black Widows are subjected to, and she just seems along for the ride to go take down the Red Room because her not-daughters are the ones leading the charge. Natasha and Yelena at least have a reason to burn it to the ground, being just two of its victims. There are a couple ways for Alexei and Melina to have been more sympathetic, though: 1. The not-family was running from the Red Room itself in the opening prologue, not SHIELD. Alexei and Melina could split up with Alexei taking the girls, only to fail. Alexei is then thrown in the gulag for his treason. Melina gets away and stays away, fearing what would happen to her if the Red Room caught up to her. She then joins the mission because her "daughters" aren't scared, so why should she be? 2. Alexei and Melina sacrifice themselves to destroy the Red Room. Yes, typical "bad parent sacrifices themselves for their kid" trope, but it works for a reason. This would require both Alexei and Melina to understand how they failed their pseudo-daughters and seek to atone for their mistake.

Puzzling why Hollywood haven't donated their salaries to "the people."

I always had this nagging feeling watching this channel´s videos, like you were pushing against communism from a place different from the intelect, something more visceral but couldnt put my finger on it... until now that I get to know the staff: this is a freaking therapy group for communism PTSD! I agree with every single thing you said in this video but holy s if all made perfect sense after watching your backstories, this was Fight Club tier level of catharsis.

As always, your video is fascinating and informative, and I do understand how you see the problem with communism (I myself are from CIS country), but can you someday make a video about what sides of socialism are actually good and would be nice to have integrated into current most successful economies? It would be so great to actually understand what is so appealing for all of these people who promote communism daily.

@TainyaGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Can I ask you what that list would look like?

@NYG5

2 жыл бұрын

They think socialism is appealing because they don't want to have to risk anything in this world, which is understandable but unrealistic, and they also would be unhappy with bare bones combloc block apartments because it would be "undignified" for them, they want to be able to be the barista and have no worries while the state provides them a gucci house and gucci health benefits.

@rakesrunner

2 жыл бұрын

@@TainyaGaming Why would I ask for the vid, if I would already know?

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

I don't really think any aspects *are* good. There are just some which are more or less destructive. A little socialism isn't going to destroy an economy, but I also don't see any ways in which it is actually a benefit either. Every part of the US economy, for example, that is directly owned or significantly controlled by the government is poorer quality and more expensive than the parts that aren't and there's no evidence that this trend will ever turn around.

@rakesrunner

2 жыл бұрын

@@NYG5 Yes, I get it; most Twitter communists are infantile dreamers. Yet, I thought the most successful and people-friendly economies integrated some socialistic institutions into their capitalistic basis, like Scandinavian, for example. So it would be pretty interesting to know what parts of socialism can be helpful.

Showing us the staff at FEE gives a whole new perspective on your content. Thank you for sharing their backgrounds.

“I really wish that didn’t have to be said” Me too kid.

Well said mate, I'll definitely be sharing this around

Based as always. Cheers mate!

Would be amazing to see a video on the current state of South America. I'm Peruvian, but thanks to communism now I'm living in Mexico with my wife. Now, we are deciding whether to stay here 'cause it is not much better or go to her country, Australia. Still, part of me wishes I could help my country change somehow. Great videos. Not always agree with you, but still.

Absolutely outstanding! Well put well written and well presented. I wish you had such a great assessment of the failures of Socialism without having to include movie references. Please let me know when and if you do

Thank you for all the work you and your team does. It helps me explain very complicated concepts to my friends.

i'm not into the whole "workers should own everything" brand of socialism but the current deterioration of capitalism proves socialism an inevitability. capitalism cannibalizes its own founding principles by design. finding employment is becoming exponentially more difficult. cost of housing is at an all time high and continues to climb as corporations mass purchase empty homes and resell them for profit. cost of health care, cost of education, cost of living is as a whole is rising dramatically as demand increases and corporations further monopolize and gain a chokehold on markets and competition. there's little we can do to even crack down on these practices because the more money corporations have, the more power they have over politicians. this already happens today. global supermonopolies are the end goal of capitalism, there is no other way it can play out. either socialist reform starts soon or there will be violent revolution from an impoverished and exploited population. the profit incentive behind everything humanity does will not work going into the future, and more americans are starting to realize that. as a footnote I don't think planned economies will ever be viable. markets will exist no matter what, everyone wants to get ahead of eachother and be entitled to the sweat of their brow. you'll seldom find socialists who oppose that.

@qaplapro

Жыл бұрын

Goverment involvement has caused most of the mentioned price increases. Why do big corporations like government regulation? It kills the competition.

My parent never forced us to share toys with other kids. They said that we shouldn’t expect other children to share with us. It was good to be generous and let kids play with our toys, but if they are breaking them, then we have a right to put them away or go get mom and dad if we’re having trouble. We played outside with most kids that came to visit to solve most of the issues.

Nothing about that movie rang true, cold war era intrigue just doesn't work when you give people magical powers, let alone skip over the reality of what "powers" soviet honey pots actually used to get their way.

I wish I could like this video a million more times. This is so well said. Thank you!

democratic control of the means of production doesnt have to be central planning, and you could simply have Co-ops. The power in balance corporations and investors have is the problem, in germaney half of a board is run by the workers that way you are again not ruling from the top. a worker has less of in incentive to flood their home town with waste and garbage than a CEO and a few investors. the amount of wealth that's hoarded like dragons doesn't contribute to the economie and isn't in the best interest of us all and the planet and a progressive tax on wealth shouldn't be something controversial.

I believe if you make the coffee you should keep the profit, so long as you also own the sugar, cream, coffee beans, the mug you put the coffee in, the payment processing, the servers for the payment processing, cable lines that carry the payment info, and lot you sell the coffee from. Only then can you keep the profit…

The beauty of America is that you can open up a coffee shop and then give it to your workers if you want. It's stupid but very possible.

12:16 It's mostly because despair pools into bad ideas. The supporters of socialism are likely those who feel that they've been left behind, and want something to help them. If they feel like they're not being heard, this despair turns into anger and violence, and anger is motivating. Despair doesn't get you to donate money or protest or even riot in front if buildings, anger does. And as this anger grows, it's only natural that they start to support more and more extreme beliefs. For example, the Alt-Right targets white males who feel like society is pushing them away or changing too fast, because it easily be turned into anger, and as this anger grows, they only fall deeper into the rabbit hole. While defeating their extreme ideas is good, if that anger still exists, they're just going to go somewhere else, assuming they haven't gone full echo chamber. Socialism is bad, but still highlights problems that need fixing.

@elenabob4953

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry but I don't consider those who attended College payed by their parents that way. I see them as pampered spoiled brats who don't know a thing about how the real world works. The ones who struggled and started to create a life for themselves since highschool will never think in those terms .

@neonbunnies9596

2 жыл бұрын

@@elenabob4953 so these people feel that they are being left behind... and your solution is to keep leaving them behind? Their solutions might be wrong, but they highlight issues that need more attention

As someone who works at Starbucks, I can honestly say what David Harbour said is completely idiotic. Let do people! Let do!

I think the idea can be summarized as: In order to make apple pie, you first need to invent the universe. Can you invent the universe? No? Then acknowledge the fact that you’ll have to interact with capitalists

Can't believe KZread unsubscribed me.

Love how in the second half of this video where this guy starts "demolishing" communism, claims with references completely dissappear and are instead replaced with appeals to ignorance. "People just couldn't possibly know all this" "nobody has a solution for this." Conservative intellectualism is so insulting to its audience.

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Hearing you say "cringe"... it's just beautiful.

The reference to “I pencil” * Italian hand kiss* beautiful

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... Our founder literally wrote the book, so it'd be a disservice to FEE not to :)

@projectrenaissanceman5035

2 жыл бұрын

@@FEEonline ....wow....Is FEE hiring underqualified 20-somthings at the moment?

@FEEonline

2 жыл бұрын

@@projectrenaissanceman5035 my team isn't at the moment, but check the jobs posts.

I still stand by my point tgat the social capitalism that we have over here in europe (yes, i'm generalizing) is better than the more liberal capitalism of the states. Yes, we won't reach the same highest heights as often, bit in general, we will rareky experience the same lowest lows.

Capitalism, and only Capitalism, harnesses the creativity of billions of individuals to innovate and create to build a better future Communism and Socialism takes that freedom out of the hands of people and consolidates it into the hands of a few individuals who can never have enough data or experience to know what each individual’s needs and wants are better then they can

Always love your videos man, just nailing it every time.

We can go back to the first try of communism in North America by looking at Jamestown. The people that were in Jamestown decided to do a collective means of production; they would share what they'd done to the rest of the colony, thus, having certain individuals be lazy and not aid. When the winter hit, you know what happened. So, when the big cohoney got back and saw the devestation, he proclaimed that every surviving colonist keep what they made for themselves, unless they want to share it. The colony thrived again.

YOU WILL LIVE IN THE POD YOU WILL EAT THE BUGS YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY

TLDR; 2% of people think, 3% of people think they think, and 95% of people would rather die than think - Some famous psychologist whose name escapes me. In my opinion, Socialism the most pertinent definition of which is a centrally planned economy with price controls, where there is no free market, will always fail for these two unavoidable reasons: 1. Taking the product of a man's fairly earned labor and giving it to someone who has done nothing to earn that product is morally repugnant. It directly leads to the kind of injustice and suffering shown in every Socialist government in history. It also leads to an instant and considerably large black market, another feature of all Socialist economies. These black markets alone are a big reason why centrally planned economies fail. It's true that black markets exist in Capitalist economies, but with no where near the amount of adverse effects. 2. Value is subjective and trying to centrally plan an economy is a futile game of 'whack a mole', it simply isn't possible, and even if it was it would a grotesquely inefficient use of resources. The alternative is to allow price levels to establish themselves naturally, according to supply and demand, as in free market economies. If you doubt this, compare the standard of living in western Europe, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand to any currently existing centrally planned economy. Similar to the laws of cause and effect and gravity, the law of supply and demand cannot be broken. A centrally planned economy may survive through brute force for decades (the Soviet Union lasted for almost 70 years), but will always collapse due to its inherent inefficiencies and necessary brutality. China is doing well for the time being, but I doubt it will last. And no, Sweden, Denmark and Norway are not socialist economies, they are free market capitalist economies with income tax rates so high that they would make the average blue-haired leftist iPhone-touting hypocrite choke on his favorite soy beverage.

Awesome video Sean!!! Always expertly breaking down any situation

Part of (professionally) playing any role is getting into the headspace of a character. The trick is being able to divorce yourself from it afterwards. Poor man. =/