'were gonna go over the worst note on the saxophone... Middle c sharp' *Clicks like*

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

:)

@javierm_uk1588

3 жыл бұрын

Totally! As a beginner I thought I was doing something wrong! Good to know it is by design a "tough" note intonation-wise.

Thanks for this fix for C#! I've been trying to fix this for ages with alternate fingerings being really tricky. This one is simple and works like a charm :).

I have to watch this again, and again.

Great video! Very informative and useful.

Love that opening theme!!! It's symphonic!!

@Sirvalorsax

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

You are a great communicator and a lifesaver……thank you!

Wow. Thanks, brother. I agree with an earlier comment about C# on a soprano. This helps...a lot. Video teck-wise, the blue screen with the closeups of the fingerings is really helpful. I know that adds a few layers of work (!) to produce but it’s impact is very valuable to this viewer. The extra production work is way worth it. Thanks for taking the time to bring your production value up several notches.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Thank you foe this Boss. Helps a lot on my saxophone. Your moth piece and ligature look ridiculously amazing btw.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Your videos are always awesome. Thank you my brother.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Dude! I love your channel, I have watched all your videos but this is so interesting ans now my favourite of you haha. I play vintage saxes so you know, almost we have tocreate all our altissimos fingers hahaha and this video gave me lot of new ideas to work and explore. Thx so much, big hug to you from Chile and sorry for my english if you cant understand something 😂😂

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! I want to try to do a video in Spanish.

I'm auto subscribed... you has helped thousands of beginner sax player to solve this problem

Thanks for this, the first option, octave key plus 3/G key, worked like a charm on my C melody sax.

Thanks, you explain very clearly. Clarinet got me thinking like you. The mechanism & conical bore of Sax makes it harder, but we learn by experimenting. Thanks for reminding us to LISTEN & THINK. Great video. You've got yourself another subscriber.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Rock on!

Thx for teaching C#

People need to remember that this is just one player’s solution on his setup and, just like all these altissimo fingerings floating around on the internet, it will vary with greatly between different horns. One thing that needs to be said is that *mouthpiece adjustment affects the C# more than ALL the other notes.* I personally haven’t ever had problems with C# being flat on my jazz setup. Commercial players usually voice further deeper down in the sound so they don’t usually have to add fingers for raising the pitch but may do so for resonance. Classical players often have the mouthpiece slightly further pulled out so we might need to vent side C# to bring the pitch up. This is my experience with Yamaha/Selmer SATB saxes but remember: on EVERY sax, a mouthpiece adjustment of 20 cents on C# will affect the pitch only about 10 cents on a D. It’s a balancing act and this is one of the reasons playing in-tune at extreme temperatures is such a challenge.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

I'm really glad you brought up temperature. I played a gig with varying degrees of broken air conditioning where the sax would be covered with condensation from the heat and humidity only 20 minutes later for the AC would work and drop the temp by 25-30 degrees F. That was fun!!

Hey Adrien thanks for another great video. Hope all is well.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks. All good here

I am always "floored" by the brilliance of your sax control and tonal quality during demonstrations; I hear therein a touch of Grover Washington, Jr.'s, if I may. Certainly, another excellent tutorial - another one of several visits! Thanks, Sir ValorSax. Lohvissimo!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks!

... I feel duly educated. Thank you. Immediate sub 👍🏻

thanks man. this will help me big time.

@Sirvalorsax

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Solid stuff! Wished i had stumbled on this before heading on a grueling journey to find the substitutes!!!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you. That's a great performance...🎷🎷

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Cool!!

Thank you for this I always use open C# and the then the side C key to raise the pitch

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Cool

The “flute” f# fingering (rh3 or 6) works on clarinets and saxophones. The sax and clarinet f# (rh2 or 5) works on flute. The same key linkage exists on all three instruments. The more flute I play the more I use the flute fingering everywhere. In each case the “false” fingering has a small timbre difference but it’s not horrible. With respect to middle D Greg Fishman has a video specifically on this one note. I think he calls it the three Ds. These types of videos are great especially when talking about the context of their use! Thanks for another great video!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

totally agree on F# is the more in-tune note and C# ... hum well... is so thin!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Really appreciate these alternative fingerings. Thank you! The C# on my Selmer series II alto is sooo flat

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@joshuahuff607

3 жыл бұрын

Oh god, there's times where I have to octave, 3, and side c and side b flat on my series II. Easily the worst note on the horn imo

Hope this works for alto sax too thank you Guru🙏❤️🇳🇵

I've heard cannonball use that high F to sound like a ray gun. Pretty cool stuff. Thanks for the info!!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Thank you for sharing! God bless!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

😀

Thank you so much !!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Cool

Some mouthpiece refacers minimize this issue via tweaking the position of the facing break in order to improve short tube (C#) intonation versus long tube intonation (D). Great tips on alternate fingering!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Thanks, I love alternate fingerings. I never noticed open C# being super flat on any of my saxes until I got this Beaugnier vito duke tenor right before covid. That note is pretty unbearable on the horn but the horn sounds beastly overall

@joshuahuff607

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, it's super flat on my series II alto lol

Good Sir, thank you. Intonation/resonance improvements using whole horn technique is an important theme threaded across your teachings. Challenging implementation. Until my Neuralink is implanted it's back to the woodshed. P.S. I only wish any of my 5 playing horns was in perfect mechanical condition.... and my way cool flute needs work, too. Poor excuse, however.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Hit me up with that Neuralink when they come out LOL!!!

Great video!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

You should make a video explaining the differences between a classical and jazz embouchure

My middle c-sharp doesn't sound either. So I have been using the low c-sharp fingering with the octave key. Thanks for your help.

Nice info!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Excellent.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

Holy shit, it works, love your videos

@Sirvalorsax

Жыл бұрын

😁

5:13 - Thanks for this tip and fingerings. Finally I can play Snafu (Y Lateef) with a better tone and quickly.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Nice...Thanks 😊

Thanks a lot. 👍

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Most welcome!

Fantastic

@Sirvalorsax

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

maaaan this blues licks ! wow

GOOD GOD!!!!!!!!! I know you A.S. KZread was on AutoPlay and you just popped up on my screen. We went to BG together.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah man!!! Good times. I still keep in touch with Brian every now and then😁

@scottfranklin7908

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sirvalorsax Glad to see you still out there playing so great!

If you do the same thing with A, just lift the G finger, you can blow a really strong A that way, also the whole covered A trill.

Dear Sir: my low C on the curved soprano plays flat. Any tips on correcting this? Than you. Keep up the good work in helping us.

Two thumbs up!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

can you do a review of the jody jazz Giant Garzone edition? i dont see alot of reviews of that mouthpiece nor do i see alot of info on it at all other than the videos that jody jazz has up there

In other videos you teached a coulple more of very useful alternative HIGH F , wich are like middle A FLAT plus HIGH F SHARP KEY and another, like middle E, MINUS FINGER 3, (left ring finger?) (for those, among other amazing stuff i could never thank you enough)

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I wanted to keep this one kind of short and focus mainly on C#.

Thank you so much!!!!! Currently, for me, this is very advanced stuff, but I am so very thrilled you showed this. I learned a lot. Thank you so much. Speaking of alternatives. I discovered a song in a music book that is my speed, and I so want to play it. But there are a few places where a couple of notes, unlike the rest, go very low. All the fingering charts I have in the saxophone books I have do not go below the two ledger lines below the Clef lines. I am wondering if it is possible to play any lower notes on a saxophone, even four ledger lines below? It seems it might be possible, but I am not sure. Can you tell how amateur I am? Grin. If you already have a video on how low a saxophone can go--per sheet music, please point me to it. I would so appreciate that too. Thank you so much for your time. I love your videos. Thank you. God bless you in Jesus' Name.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

The lower limit is pretty set for any saxophone. Usually people will put some device in the bell or even cover the bell with their knee in order to force the pitch lower, There is no alternate fingering to play lower on sax though.

@Elkwoman46

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sirvalorsax Thank you so very much for your time and reply; I so very much appreciate it. I believe my confusion is because I have always been a sheet music type person, and I do see that the instructional books for the different saxophones all have their own books, but if they are all with the same fingerings, I was not sure why all of them were/are necessary. I was seeing outside these books, for example, a classic famous movie song for alto have a different one for tenor, that is, somewhat lower on the staff for the tenor. Both, of course, in the range of the notes found in the fingering charts, but wouldn't the song reaching well into the higher octave fingering be the preferred choice? Or would it sound just as good dropped down a little? I think I am confused on this matter, because I even see where some post on KZread a play along sheet music for alto saxophone will exclusively been for alto mentioned but not for a tenor or the others. I don't get that. There is a cool chart in one of my instructional books, and it shows a column on the left--the notes for alto and baritone (Eb instruments), the middle column is the C concert pitch you will actually hear when playing those notes and on the right is the likewise notes for the tenor and soprano (Bb instruments) with their notes, but both sides when played will actually be hearing if tuned properly the note set to piano C concert pitch in the center column. I believe this chart is great for transposing songs. But all these instruments are only 3 (Eb) or 2 (Bb) semitones off from concert pitch and per fingering design of instruments, so if anything, I don't get why some things are the way they are. Like a baritone in Eb...if they play their lowest note they are actually three semi-tones higher. Would that not seem odd to someone who wants to play super low notes? Why would it not be made into a Bb instrument, that is constructed in design, so it actually be even lower, two semi-tones actual sound? But perhaps that is why, for example, like a tenor in Bb is actually sounding two semi-tones lower on the bottom but it does not show up on the fingering charts which makes it seem like it is more limited per sheet music versus actual concert pitch sound; that is, if actual sound it would have another ledger line below per the two ledger lines as the bottom limit in the fingering charts set in Bb. I perceive that is why it can be a little hard to play easy music set in the Key of C because a number of these do seem to go a little lower on the lines. But perhaps it would be hard to use easy to play flute music as some of that will go too high then. But one thing I have to absolutely appreciate...to have all these instruments with the same fingering and set where it is, is so awesome...it is just finding the sheet music in this range, and it is wonderful.

Top Shelf Gold !

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have trouble with middle C sharp to. Especially when slurring into another note.

Is sirvalorsax's sax ensemble intros available to buy? I would love to use them in my sax quartet

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking into this for the future.

What music is that for the intro and outro? Mesmerizing!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Its a sax arrangement of "in The End" by Linkin Park

@Cantbuyathrill

3 жыл бұрын

Sirvalorsax 😃

Essas posições servi para qualquer saxofone?

How long has he had a better camera and mic? He looks and sounds much better than in his older videos!

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still looking to get an even better camera in the future

When did you switch neck straps, and what are you using now? I’m used to seeing you in the bg harness.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

Nice observation. I only switched it because it covered the T shirt that I'm wearing under the other shirt. Those shirts are for sale in the merchandise bar.

@TWO20

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using the bg shoulder strap lately, it’s a nice compromise between pressure relief and ease of taking on and off. It will definitely keep covering the short tho

My 2nd otv B sounds very boxy, almost nasally, no color in tone . A and C# are just fine, and overtone B is fine. Then #1 finger and octave key produce very boxy, wimpy 2nd otv B. Do you have any alternative fingering for this B? Any advice?

Little lost on the front E substitute. You played a standard Eb but bended it up to an E?

@MrGeolm

3 жыл бұрын

I think he plays an overtone of Eb which is wrong on the tenor and sounds like a E. He already explained that in one of his altissimo video (actually the one about alternative fingering for palm keys)

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

The "E" substitute is an overblown middle Eb.

Would it be viable to use the palm key D to play the middle d or would that cause more problems than it fixes, Its working for me so far but I'm weary to why I've never heard about it.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

On most saxes it's SUPER flat.

@mattyharrismusic

3 жыл бұрын

maybe ok for a C# to D trill where it's so fast you can't tell how flat it is. hha

Sorry to get off topic but if you were buying a new tenor (any price) what ones would you go for? I'd sure appreciate your input.

@DaawudFareed

3 жыл бұрын

Hey sirvalorsax c# problems are a thing of the past. Years ago I used those alternate fingerings you mentioned, but no more. You should give Ken Beason a call at 8285518518 and he can put a end to intonation and timbre problems on your sax

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

That is a great question. I'm looking to replace my current tenor and I would love to unify the saxes by having them all from one company. 1st and foremost, they need to make a great easy to play low resistance soprano sax and offer a curved one as well. I'm currently on this quest now and I have no clue which one I will land on

@dennis9242

3 жыл бұрын

I guess I should've asked if you could buy any tenor sax right now what would it be? Thank you much for your reply.

I play flute and sax and I can see why you called it flute f sharp. On flute you can play f sharps the same fingering as sax too!

I have a question. It is one that had bothered me for years when I played. When I just play a song by ear, I feel that the note/ key that I am playing in is the only note/key I can play in. Songs in a sharp key are difficult and some songs in flat keys are easier. I guess it has to do with the song. I realized that I was developing a note/key bias. Have you ever dealt with this situation?

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

BIG TIME! In fact, I should do a video on these types of biases while playing sax. It usually manifests itself when it comes to keys. We have to get used transposing which is inherently very difficult anyway. Anytime you learn a lick or a phrase in a comfortable key, immediately learn it in the key you aren't comfortable in.

Dig it! I have got to get some new teeth and horn 🎷.

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

There are 2 worst notes on tenor saxophone. C# and high G. C# is strange because this is the only tone, when no key is pressed and it is very confusing. High G often squeezes and is difficult to find the correct embouchure. Both often sounds sounds not good.

How dare you!!!!🤠that war grand .

On my alto, my middle c# is maybe ten cents flat compared to all the other notes below high c#, however, if I hold middle c# and maintain exactly the same embouchure, and just hit the octave key, it goes like 30-50 cents sharp. It goes crazy on high c#, and then one note up and it's back to being in tune. This new alto is the worst horn I've ever played >

@Sirvalorsax

2 жыл бұрын

WOW, that seems really unusual. Good idea to get it looked at. Sounds to me like there might be something strange with one of if not both of the octave mechanisms.

I'm really not a fan of the G on the stave, that change of embouchure still catches me of guard some times

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

I hope this video helps

In my sheet music it says B Sharp Is there such thing as Bb?

@Sirvalorsax

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. B sharp is the same as C natural. Bb is the same as A#

1:22 Deep Cover by Dr Dre?

@Sirvalorsax

Жыл бұрын

LOL, Yep!

On soprano sax C# it's a nightmare

@Sirvalorsax

3 жыл бұрын

True

@7quercus77

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sirvalorsax Normally sopranos have special mechanism for this problem. Yani and Selmer have "donut keys" and Yamaha has two tone holes for c#. Even vintage sopranos have some linkage between c# and octave key. Mine soprano unfortunately doesn't have anything like that so I have to learn this alternate fingerings.

I could literally do C sharp THREE DAYS AGO and I changed absolutely nothing and now it isn’t sounding right, also my internet is being garbage I can’t even watch this video so now I’m just venting

My low c# is sounding exactly like my low c

@Sirvalorsax

2 жыл бұрын

It might be sticking

First

I thought you were going to say middle D

I do not understand why all that, all saxophones have different notes, the interpreter is the one who makes the difference that is my experience

The worst is middle D...