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@mikeksp9177

2 жыл бұрын

First, only in the replies

@SmokeyTTV

2 жыл бұрын

Hi

@Jordan-xx9ux

2 жыл бұрын

Is this a repost?

@kushking4453

2 жыл бұрын

What's up with all this waiting work harder you bum jk love you work you bum

@daveincambridge

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeksp9177 seriously, this is probably the highlight of your life

Damn, so that bomber caused a lot more damage than he initially thought

@mr.e3247

2 жыл бұрын

A wild chain reaction of events for sure!!

@generalirons9789

2 жыл бұрын

That’s ya lot of assist

@peterbraun2438

2 жыл бұрын

um... ? the 747 aint a bomber ?

@pharrzide

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterbraun2438 they talking about the airport bomb that caused the diversion

@n1njachikin

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterbraun2438 wait, really? We all thought the Boeing 747 was a stealth bomber!

Man makes bomb! Injures 8 and no one died! Yay Because of the bomb, planes were diverted leading up to 600 deaths. 😐

@globeflicker9216

2 жыл бұрын

Shite! That’s ironic when you put it that way.

@daphenomenalz4100

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the world wars :|

@tony9peter

2 жыл бұрын

@@daphenomenalz4100 world wars?? those are real things????????

@depressedmidlifecrisistimm3043

2 жыл бұрын

@@daphenomenalz4100 Yeah but that’s not relating to the topic

@snazz1363

2 жыл бұрын

@@daphenomenalz4100 lol just randomly mentioning the world wars, I should start conversations like that

There are a scary amount of incidents in history where so many little things align just right for a tragedy to occur

@lapeez2277

2 жыл бұрын

yeah well if they didnt happen this way you wouldnt be hearing about it. imagine the amount of these tragedies that didnt happen because of just one small thing. butterfly effect if a weird thing

@emperormajorian112

2 жыл бұрын

Like world war 1

@dogwithawitchhat

2 жыл бұрын

Give anything enough time and it will happen

@BxBxProductions

2 жыл бұрын

MURPHY'S LAW

@R2Bl3nd

2 жыл бұрын

My thought is, with 7 and 1/2 billion people on earth, that means that a one in a billion event happens 7.5 times per day on average. There's just so much going on, constantly, all the time, worth so many people, that almost every possible combination of factors eventually happens at some point. It's the job of regulators to make sure that no matter what crazy coincidence happens, there's always some redundant safety factor that prevents a disaster. Because crazy coincidences are inevitable given the amount of things going on on this planet. Let alone the universe. It might be just a crazy coincidence that we're all here in the first place.

Qxir is like that great storyteller uncle everyone loves

@SeriousBusinessman.

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who had a great storyteller Uncle, this is way too true, he just needs to add in some hand motions and sound effects.

@luciensantoro

2 жыл бұрын

Literally

@syzl___

2 жыл бұрын

He's definitely as drunk

@Herbertti3

2 жыл бұрын

You're the moist uncle I love.

@kabbacallisto

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

runway incursions happen scarily often, few of them lead to disasters tho

@toy4tao

2 жыл бұрын

San Francisco airport has entered the chat

@joenamath5480

2 жыл бұрын

@@toy4tao Is that airport bad with crashes?

@GenericGeeza

2 жыл бұрын

@@joenamath5480 I dont think it is that bad with crashes but there I think are quite a lot of runway incursions

@thenekom

2 жыл бұрын

@@toy4tao Harrison Ford loads his bong

@culturebreath369

2 жыл бұрын

*rips bong*

As a now-former air traffic controller I can tell you that this incident is still studied when the topic of runway management is raised. That being said, we were told repeatedly *no more than one aircraft on the runway at all times, no exceptions!* but then immediately learned all the times it was acceptable to make an exception.

@dxlorean2938

2 жыл бұрын

Makes no sense, no exeptions but still times when its ok to make an exception ? That could lead to more accidents

@craigleverone414

2 жыл бұрын

Did you work at Logan by chance?

@AmariFukui

2 жыл бұрын

@@dxlorean2938 Know the rules, before you break the rules It's a contradiction but makes sense, there's always exceptions and special cases in life. That being said I certainly hope they have the good sense to know when and where those exceptions are acceptable because otherwise its better to keep the rules simple and strict

@leogama3422

2 жыл бұрын

It think it's fine to have exceptions, *given that all pilots are informed they are not alone in the runway and acknowledge that.*

@thehandsomenipple3623

Жыл бұрын

@@craigleverone414 logan is a shitshow, i live right there

My God, imagine being the lady that got off the flight before the disaster. She must have had tremendous anxiety due to that. Horrifying to know your life can just end in a moment and it was all changed by such a simple action.

@VictorRaze

2 жыл бұрын

*insert final destination fears here*

@lizc6393

2 жыл бұрын

I would have been like "guess I live on this island now."

@KILOPOWER

2 жыл бұрын

I would've believed in god if that ever happened to me...

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorRaze that movie made me be horrified of solariums to this day

@aldousorwell3807

2 жыл бұрын

@@KILOPOWER Just your own personal one?😁

As an airline pilot this is one of the classic instructional topics that we often discuss. The lessons never grow old. If you have a doubt, then drill down to its source. Challenge yourself and others to clarify. This is a habit that needs to be constantly practiced whether you are the most senior pilot on the property or the newest. It can happen to anyone. Excellent recap of this Qxir--probably the best ten minute discussion I have seen. Good work! You have a knack for distilling such topics into understandable videos.

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

As a tiny company I don't have the cushion others may have & so MUST ask the dumb questions NOW.

@kenkaniff8428

2 жыл бұрын

watched a documentary on this and there was different information in that documentary. The KLM pilot had an incredible amount of flight time under his belt over many years and he was a very obnoxious and arrogant guy. He did things against the towers instructions because he was a veteran and he knew better and nobody was going to tell him different. The co-pilot was in control and was taking direction from the arrogant captain and he had a feeling he was following orders that were very dangerous but was too scared to speak up and tell the captain "no, you are wrong" and that was the main reason for this accident. yes there were some mixups with a few radio transmissions but that wasn't the biggest error. There were other issues such as the fog and the Pan Am flight taking the wrong exit off main runway which didn't help but the biggest and main error was the KLM captains arrogance thinking he was the most knowledgeable person in this situation that caused this accident. Qxir did a great job with this but i feel he missed one or 2 things and the main one being the arrogant captain that thought he knew best. that guy was a real A-hole if you watch the documentary. i forget the name of it tho. cheers🤘🏻🇬🇧

@Neal_Schier

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenkaniff8428 There are indeed a number of reports, segments, and documentaries that have explored the Tenerife accident--some better than others. Obviously Qxir is not going to be able, in ten minutes, to do a complete exegesis of the accident reports that the longer documentaries do. That said, he did a very good job. I would be hesitant to state that the Captain's arrogance was the probable cause of the accident. Investigative bodies such as the NTSB in the United States do issue a probable cause or causes along with contributing factors and there are often fine gradations between/among them. Accidents such as this one are the result of a sequence of errors and here there were many. I humbly disagree with your argument that the radio transmission being blocked would not have given the KLM reason for action. Maybe, maybe not. Either way, the goal of modern CRM training is for team members to learn how to advocate and for leaders to be attentive to input. Arrogant individuals do indeed throw a wrench into this calculus, but this unfortunate character trait is often but one element of several in an accident sequence. FWIW, I spoke at length to a German reporter who was dispatched to cover the accident. He maintained that investigative reporting revealed that those in the tower had a football match on that might have distracted the controller. Again, maybe or maybe not. Just a lot in the mix.

@kenkaniff8428

2 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree that it was absolutely a sequence of events that led to this and i think i even said that but what i was trying to say is that the co-pilot coupd not tell the captain that he was wrong because he had such an arrogant attitude and if the co-pilot would if been able to tell him that it very well may have stopped this from happening. We will never know. But i do agree that there were several errors made or should I say miscommunications which did lead to this awful avcident and yes I do believe Qxir did a good job presenting this to us. cheers🤘🏻🇬🇧

@JackSmith-hm7fh

2 жыл бұрын

What airline do you fly for?

"The Pan Am. Is he clear?" "Ya ya." Never be afraid to challenge your boss.

@leppie

2 жыл бұрын

Learnt this a long time ago. I might not always be right, but I am not afraid to speak my mind.

@mikehawk5492

2 жыл бұрын

When did he say that, is there a time stamp?

@lorduzcjar7023

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikehawk5492 7:00

@himpta

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikehawk5492 6:55

@FakeMoonRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Wooden shoes. Wooden head. Wooden listen.

There might be another reason why Pan Am didn't take the third exit. I mean when you look at the third exit on the runway, it is SHARP. How can a 747 make the turn that sharp? Even if the fog was there, maybe the crew saw it and was like 'Nah, that be way too sharp, we must go to 4th exit.'

@molly9582

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, that is indeed exactly what happened, at least according to the Pan Am co-pilot Robert Bragg years later in the “Mayday” spin-off episode “Crash of the Century”. I believe there is evidence in the CVR that the Pan Am crew did not believe they could execute such a sharp turn on the third exit in their jumbo jet, as follows: “1702:59.9 APP: Okay ... at the end of the runway make 180 [degree turn] and report-ah-ready-ah-for ATC clearance. [background conversation in tower] 1703:09.3 PA 2: The first one is a 90-degree turn. 1703:11.0 PA 1: Yeah, okay. 1703:12.1 PA 2: Must be the third ... I'll ask him again. 1703:14.2 PA 1: Okay.” I should note that I do not personally believe Bragg was trying to shift responsibility for the massive loss of life onto the Los Rodeos ATC. It was simply a terrible mistake. The ATC at Los Rodeos were not used to maneuvering such enormous aircraft, much less handling so many planes at their tiny airport at once with no ground tracking radar. As Qxir says, it was simply a sequence of extraordinary circumstances that added up to catastrophe.

@vicstick75

2 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that it was later shown that a 747 actually couldn't make that turn.

@SangerZonvolt

2 жыл бұрын

@@vicstick75 If a 747 can make a 180° turn on the runway then it can also take the exit no matter how sharp it is because it can use the runway to manouver.

@Synplicity

2 жыл бұрын

@@SangerZonvolt But how about the width of the taxiway on the 2nd 180 maneuver? The taxiway looks half the width.

@EatAllDaHumans

2 жыл бұрын

@@SangerZonvolt You, as a pilot, still want to see exactly where it is before you get there. They could see the turn, but not the sides in order to make sure the wheels didn't go off the tarmac into the dirt and tip the plane or even having to back up blindly and hold up the KLM.

This story is so fascinating. I've heard it so many times but it never ceases to astonish me what happened.

@snazzyidiot

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a documentary about this accident

@chanceklippstein

2 жыл бұрын

Same I've seen videos about this accident on multiple channels but it never ceases to amaze me this happened.

@juniorsanchez4157

2 жыл бұрын

Literally each time I hear about it I get chills

@chriscoker7794

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I had to watch it again, I guess kinda to be sure that I heard everything right.

@ayylmao394

2 жыл бұрын

Is not an story, is an tragedy, have some respect for the victims and stop romanticizing their suffering.

Truly a manifestation of Murphys Law

@hagane_0

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. From being in the most deadliest plane crash in history, Atlantic trans flights but then chernobyl happened, a terror attack leading to everyone dying and then Pan Am going out of business in the early 90s.

@anti-ethniccleansing465

2 жыл бұрын

@@hagane_0 I’m curious why they went out of business now.

@hagane_0

2 жыл бұрын

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I would say their downfall started in the 1970s when the oil crisis happened. Then new laws regarding commercial airplanes, and the amount of bad press they were receiving caused them to go out of business. I would recommend checking out Bright Sun Films' video about the history of Pan Am

@somelokyguy6466

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call it Murphy's Law but rather an example of the Swiss cheese model. The Swiss cheese model is the idea that in order for a disaster to occur, multiple small factors have to line up perfectly. Imagine you have 10 slices of Swiss cheese and each hole in the slices represents a potential fault. A disaster occurs when a hole in all 10 slices lines up perfectly and you can see straight through all of the slices, move any slice so the hole is no longer present and the disaster has been prevented.

@entireglxy4338

2 жыл бұрын

@@somelokyguy6466 Yeah the smallest inconvenience/problem (hole in the top of the cheese) drastically increases its chance to become a disaster (line up all the way to the bottom) and with every inconvenience the chance keeps increasing like a chain reaction. Murphy just said its inevitable considering how much could go wrong (How many Swiss cheese stacks their are)

Canary Islands Independence Movement: "This isn't what I expected, but I'll take it"

@RemusKingOfRome

2 жыл бұрын

Is there an indigenous population of these Islands ???

@stuart4341

2 жыл бұрын

@@RemusKingOfRome sort of. The original inhabitants were Berbers or some other north Africans but they've intermixed with Spaniards for hundreds of years to the point they're basically Spaniards with darker skin. There's cultural differences between them and mainland Spain.

@trezapoioiuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@RemusKingOfRome Any place that isn't a natural part of a country, like an island far away has an indigenous population, unless the country exterminated it.

@M.H.E.

2 жыл бұрын

@@trezapoioiuy There are a number of islands that were uninhabited before European settlers arrived, like the azores and St. Helena.

@vulpes7079

2 жыл бұрын

@@trezapoioiuy Cape Verde didn't

When you said that the one plane was going to taxi down the wrong way of the runway, turn around and take off, and that the other plane was to do the same, while a fog rolled in, it instantly dawned on me what was about to happen.

@mr.e3247

2 жыл бұрын

that and the fact that the pilot refueled!! I said this is not going to end well!

@WellCookedPotatoes

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.e3247 wait what did that cause? Wasn’t the plane taking off the one that refueled?

@thejupitergod5687

2 жыл бұрын

@@WellCookedPotatoes The refueling delayed the takeoff long enough for fog to envelop the airport, and made the plane heavier and more combustable.

@mr.e3247

2 жыл бұрын

@@WellCookedPotatoes ahhh the plane was FULL of fuel. After the crash it burned for hours. The only person to survive that particular plane didn't get back on cos they where going to that island the next day.

@fab9207

2 жыл бұрын

🗿

Holy sh*t, I never heard of this crash. I am not an airline disaster "enthusiast" but i've watched plenty. I'm just surprised "the deadliest crash in history" isn't more popular to just come across.

@azoniarnl3362

2 жыл бұрын

Ive had the same with the worst naval disaster in history, look it up and you might be suprised.

@arciks11

2 жыл бұрын

@@azoniarnl3362 I know wartime worst one is Wilhelm Gustloff during WW2. No idea about worst one during peacetime.

@litterpicker1431

2 жыл бұрын

@@arciks11 The worst maritime disaster in peacetime would be the 1987 collision of the passenger ferry MV Doña Paz with the oil tanker Vector (approximately 4,386 deaths).

@R2Bl3nd

2 жыл бұрын

I think that crashes like this, in which everything suddenly goes wrong all at once, it's more difficult to put out an entertaining video. It's not like it was a long battle for their lives, they were only aware for a few seconds what was about to happen. I think that's why Comair flight 5191 and East Coast Jet flight 81 are not covered by many channels; there were complex factors leading up to the incident, but the incident itself started and ended within seconds. It's hard to fill in a video with enough entertaining details about such events, possibly.

@YYAT

2 жыл бұрын

Weird, I just looked this up on youtube and mostly videos made by very small channels is what I found.

Glad to see the Irish remake of Air Crash Investigations is getting off the ground.

@hziebicki

2 жыл бұрын

*MINI air crash investigations

@chris-um2sh

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there

It's insane to me that "okay" was a perfectly adequate go-signal back then!

The one lady must feel like a final destination victim

@mrslinkydragon9910

2 жыл бұрын

If it was a final destination film you know mt teide would of errupted!

@mrslinkydragon9910

2 жыл бұрын

@Lucy Summer 333 survivours guilt. Its a form of ptsd, common within military personel who survive ambushes

@voodoodolll

2 жыл бұрын

@Lucy Summer 333 I don't think you'd get survivors guilt from a plane full of people you didn't know and had no association with, professional or personal.

@vulpes7079

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf do you mean

@mrslinkydragon9910

2 жыл бұрын

@@voodoodolll you can as its more a case of oh shit i could of died! Then you think about xyz and bam! You have a form of ptsd

My father was a fireman for KLM at Schiphol airport at that time. He told me about the rows of caskets with the remains of all the people who died lined up in hangar 10 This was by far the worst accident he had been involved with in his 1962-1992 carreer The captain, Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten, was an authoritarian figure..in those pre-(cockpit) crew management days He was in a hurry because of his/ their allowed flight hours rapidly dissolving, whitch would have meant another crew had to have been flown in In our community (loosdrecht, holland) there was a man, who along with his brother became orphans because of the lose of both parents who went on vacation alone without their children He wrote a book about it.

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

Damn

Imagine getting off your plane and it happened to kill everyone on it, quite lucky!

@sujimayne

2 жыл бұрын

You must end up living the rest of your life with perpetual existential dread... I can't even imagine how that person feels, despite not being at fault nor involved in any way.

@jwalster9412

2 жыл бұрын

@@sujimayne probably mostly ptsd.

@gaveintothedarkness

2 жыл бұрын

Like final destination

@Ebani

2 жыл бұрын

@@sujimayne On the contrary, it proves you're lucky af, i'd start buying lottery tickets.

@Cooe.

2 жыл бұрын

@@sujimayne Uhhh... I'm going to guess you've never heard of Final Destination? Lol

I feel like the KLM pilots are more at fault than is implied in this video. In this kind of complicated nonideal coordination between aircraft, you should always verify instructions with absolute clarity and never assume what vague messages mean. But I guess this is from the perspective of having an ATC parent in the modern day after these disasters have shaped how ATC-aircraft comms work.

@grimd8788

2 жыл бұрын

Same reason the warning not to use a hairdryer in the shower seems stupid. Someone else has already shown it to be so. We have a crazy ability to pretend that dumb shit is not stupid dangerous until it bites us on the ass.

@Novusod

2 жыл бұрын

The KLM pilot was definitely the main fault there. If there is any doubt about being cleared for take off then you don't take off. The pilot had zero situational awareness. He did not seem to understand that there was another plane on the runway. He should have been paying attention to what the tower was saying to Pan-AM and waiting for Pan-AM to call that they cleared the runway. Instead he was just doing his own thing not paying attention and day dreaming or something. Literally the worst thing you can do as a pilot. He completely dropped the ball and it led to the deaths of 600 people. There reason there was nothing but static on the radio was because both the Tower and the Pan-AM were literally screaming at him "WTF are you doing."

@bubba99009

2 жыл бұрын

The KLM pilot being a total dbag who thought he was some kind of rock star and saw his crew as subordinates that just need to follow his orders without question also had a huge impact on pilot culture.

@ciello___8307

2 жыл бұрын

Klm claimed responsibility, so yeah definitely

@dubious_potat4587

2 жыл бұрын

There were two accident reports, this video I believe is based on the Spanish one which places quite heavy blame on the KLM captain for starting the takeoff roll "without" permission. The second report, aka the Dutch one placed more blame on the general misunderstanding between the ATC and the captain. It also says that since the fog was very fleeting (the visibility kept on changing), the KLM captain wanted to get going before the fog got any worse which would mean more delays, this was a problem because the crew were nearing the end of their shift which would mean they would have to spend the night at the Canary islands instead of being allowed to come home. They also put forward the theory that since, in normal circumstances, permission to take off was usually given immediately after the ATC clearance, the captain subconsciously thought he got clearance to take off even though he did not. Though in the end KLM did claim responsibility for the accident. I would recommend checking out Mini Air Crash Investigation's video on the Dutch report for better information though.

For some context Van Zanten was quite urgent to get out of the airport (see his rush in his phrasing about takeoff) due to Dutch legislation regarding pilot hours. He was pushing the limit and needed to be back in Amsterdam after going to grand canaria Another factor of him being dismissive of the engineer is that this was his first flight in 1-2 months, he’d been mainly training pilots as the safety officer for KLM. He was a talented pilot but he made very human mistakes and in a system that wasn’t aware of its flaws

@fauxpinkytoo

2 жыл бұрын

And, unfortunately, this was before the days of CRM, and the engineer felt reluctant to second-guess his captain.

@erenesqandarrazor8706

2 жыл бұрын

So in other word he doesn't want Overtime job...well that is typical European lol...

@erenesqandarrazor8706

2 жыл бұрын

Also screfise hundre people live just want to reach his own holiday time is a danm Narcissistic

@iansmith4184

2 жыл бұрын

It's worth noting that pilots that fell afoul of this law were to be arrested and jailed, and it had no carve-outs for emergencies. It's hard to do your job safely with a pair of handcuffs jangling in your ears.

Today after many an hour doing my sacred qxir dance,the gods heard my calls and granted a video. Sick.

I’ve known about this crash for years (I want to be part of NTSB, look it up), but it still saddens me every time I’m reminded it. Thanks Qxir for covering this. Edit: Something that Qxir did not cover in his video: pilot hour overruns. Basically what that means is that pilots get a certain amount of flight hours they can perform before requiring a break. In this case, the flight crew, particularly Jacob’s, was concerned that they wouldn’t have enough flight hours due to the delay to get back to Amsterdam, since the plane was scheduled to fly back on the same day after landing in Gran Canaria. If the crew calculated that they wouldn’t be able to get back to Amsterdam with enough flight hours, they would be forced to pay a lot of costs, such as overnight stay for the passengers, stand costs (basically parking for the aircraft), new slot fees (basically airport fees), and other costs. But even worse, if the KLM crew decided when they landed in Gran Canaria that they had enough flight hours, but it turned out they hadn’t when they landed in Amsterdam, it would be almost guaranteed that the Dutch government would take away Jacob’s’ pilots license, a huge block in his career, and a blow for the airline itself, since Jacobs was one of the most seasoned pilots at KLM. This was almost certainly going through his head (due to the crew talking about it during refueling) when he decided to override his crews protest to wait for proper clearance, another factor that caused those 583 people to die.

@TORchic1

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you make it in, man!

@vikumwijekoon3166

2 жыл бұрын

Thats pretty dumb. Dont they have like margins for leeway exactly for unprecedented scenarios like this? bureaucratic bullshit as always

The deadliest accident in aviation history, and they weren’t even off the ground... 😔

@russman3787

Жыл бұрын

The most dangerous part of flying is and has always been takeoff and landing.

@Nitroispro

3 ай бұрын

It's driving towards or away the airport is more dangerous. (As far as I know)

Hot dam, this is one hell of a good topic for a last moments video. And with.the crash, it's a dam miracle that anyone survived it.

Qxir could explain the process of potatoes growing and I’d listen

@wendigockel

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea! That should be his next video!

@nouveauprofil

2 жыл бұрын

That suggestion is kinda ironic knowing his nationality :D

@WellCookedPotatoes

2 жыл бұрын

Well he is Irish so maybe that’s the next video

@tim1894

2 жыл бұрын

@@WellCookedPotatoes honestly it wasn’t even a joke like that but I’m glad it worked out lol

@tim1894

2 жыл бұрын

@@nouveauprofil I wish I could say I was big brain enough to have done it on purpose 😂😂

As someone who has lived in Tenerife for the last 10 years im glad to have the full story of this tragedy

By far one of the saddest stories you’ve covered yet this is one of your absolute best videos

@ImTooLazyToThinkOfAHandle

5 күн бұрын

I thought your profile picture was marker from bfb 🖊️

There is a terrific episode of "Mayday - Air Disasters" that details the events of this crash. Van Zanten was a classic Type A personality - a big part of the cause of the wreck was his lack of recent flying - he'd been instructing and in doing so short-cut many of the ground procedures that precede takeoff. His crew were intimidated by him and the engineer was not forceful in questioning the decision to proceed with what he perceived was a mistaken okay to begin the takeoff run.

Props to the Pan Am pilot. If he hadn't reacted quickly and made an attempt to avoid the collision there likely would have been no survivors in either plane.

My man does 2M Sub work at 500k. If underrated had an example, this would be it

@joshuasatterwhite9520

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN

I was 16 when this happened and remember it very well. I'm still amazed it is still at #1. I was so sad for everyone, and I loved flying on 747s, I miss them.

@blackfacegaming191

2 жыл бұрын

They’re not around anymore? I always thought those massive, 3 lanes of seats wicked cool

@damilercf

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackfacegaming191 I flew on a KLM 747 3 years ago, so they were around pretty recently,

Even though I know the story... I still wanna hear Qxir tell it

@JoshuaR.Collins

2 жыл бұрын

Same here lol

@JeyVGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I first heard it from "Disaster Breakdown" channel but anything Qxir uploads, I watch it regardless. lol

oof, tenerife is a bleak aviation incident. interested in hearing your take!

I was 8 years old when that happened. Kinda remember seeing it on the news

I'm doing an aircraft technician study and I've had my first years exam about this disaster. Had to write down everything that happened and how it ended up causing, it really hurt to find out that this could've been prevented

Kinda reminds you of the first "final destination" movie. It's crazy how things have to line up just perfectly to have such an insane disaster

R.I.P to those that died that day.. a horrific accident in aviation history..

This is your best video so far, the part where you announced the fatalities hit so hard and you really drove home how deviating it was. Good work, loved the video

Dude I was just looking for a new story and my day was made when I saw it!! Keep up the great work 😁

As a former aviation managment student we covered this exact incident as a what not to do and to see how things snowball out of control.

I watch a lot of air crash investigation videos and read a lot of air crash investigation reports; not because I'm a ghoul, but rather as a professional pilot to understand the types of mistakes other pilots have made and how to avoid making them. I have to say: I really like the way you cover these accidents. Your presentation isn't too long or too short, it gets right to the nitty-gritty without bloat. Fantastic job!

Not sure why they didn't just have both planes take the 4th exit and then just "loop around" to the back of the runway. They could have sent both planes within a few minutes and not have to mess around with "back-taxiing" (I'd think that it would be easier to maneuver a gigantic plane around a gradual loop instead trying to execute a 360 noscope moonwalk on the runway (which I see as the equivalent of a 3-point turn)) This would also have meant that the 2 planes would never have been directly facing each other.

This makes this Friday after a long week of work so much better!! Thanks Qxir!

I found your channel a week ago and I've already binge watched most of your videos, thanks for feeding my addiction yet again, I was running out of content.

It’s circumstances like these that make you wonder how close others were to disaster but barely missed without notice

@trezapoioiuy

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's why it's easy to feel unlucky, we always know when things go wrong, but we rarely notice those close calls.

"Worst Air Disaster in History," sounds like any night with Taco Bell.

@c-dubb3505

2 жыл бұрын

Bahahahaha!!!!! What an Awesomely underrated comment!!!! Some of the funniest shit I've heard in a VERY LONG TIME!!!!!

Well done. It amazes me that you can split my sides with one video and tell such a somber tale in another. I appreciate it!

Man you're content is awesome. Glad your still creating stuff. I mean it's not as if you can run out of ideas given the fact that humanity is full of incredibly stupid interesting and entertaining stories to be eloquently rehashed by you! Thanks for your work sir.

You really bring stories to life and with a very wonderful to listen to voice. This one gave me chills.

KLM's most senior pilot's impatience is what caused all of this. This shows, that no matter how much experience you have, all it takes is one flaw in character, and you can kill a lot of people.

@mak868

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see that the armchair experts have a easy explanation.

@Psyrecx

2 жыл бұрын

@@mak868 Impatience is an easy explanation. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. But, you prove, it does take at least someone who's not a complete dropout.

@mak868

2 жыл бұрын

@psyrecx okay

@DanniDerpy

2 жыл бұрын

others in the comments explained this better than i but the klms pilot only had so many flight howers and if he didnt leave soon he woulnt have enough to get back to amsterdam and this would mean a very expensive stay for the crew and passengers and plane on the trip back

That must have been horrifying. Great storytelling as always

One of the only yt channel I'm genuinely excited to watch when a new vid drops keep it up man

I just love your Last Moments series. The story telling and the stories themselves are just great

This is better than those 50 minute long dramatized TV show documentaries… gets right to the point.

What gets me the most about this story is actually part of another accident: the fact that the greatest loss of life in a single plane accident is 520 only 63 less than with this accident. I am of course referring to Japan Airlines flight 123. Just imagine if the planes in this accident were both as full as that one 747 was. edit: typos

@whyjnot420

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ulva0 Presupposing that bad things can and will happen is part of the foundation of safety and damage control.

@whyjnot420

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ulva0 Lets use lifeboats in ships as an example. Why do ships need to carry lifeboats? because the ship might sink. Why do ships need to carry enough lifeboats to put everyone onboard on one? Because when the ship sinks, there might not be anyone else in the area. To _not_ think about things in these terms. is to disregard the safety of those it pertains to. Is it fun to imagine the deaths of thousands of people, for most people likely it is not. Is it necessary to think about, yes it is. edit: I don't think I need to say why lifeboats started to get carried in a number great enough to take everyone, or do I? For planes, just imagine emergency services being overrun and what happens then

What's weird is I was literally just thinking of your videos and got on KZread and lo and behold this is the first thing that shows up!

Please make longer videos man, your vids are perfect to listen to while going to sleep, your tone and speed and calmness while narrating interesting subjects and the fact that you don’t need to see the screen to fully understand whats going on is perfect, just wish they were longer

Imagine being the person that got off, I'm sure they were shocked when they saw the news. Probably should have purchased a lottery ticket haha

Imagine hours after, the Bomber suddenly has tons of Assist hitmarks

@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

2 жыл бұрын

+600,000 : Assist *killfeed gets spammed* ACE bomber: "what"

Cheers on this one! This one was legitimately chilling. I mean a level of chilling usually reserved for the MrBallen channel.

One hell of a video Qxir. Well done. It’s sad how these things turned out but you do have a point. It was only a matter of time before an accident happened. Hindsight is 20/20.

I remember hearing this story as a kid. Shit was wild.... the recreation of the plane trying to take off & slamming into the other is vividly horrific

I already heard about this before, still it gives me chills

sensational job sunshine, always excited to see the notification another video has been posted

I really like how you conduct these in a very serious tone. Make more!

it's amazing to think this would've never happened if someone never planted a bomb at a differen't airport

This is some Final Destination madness right here. I think we need to take a moment to appreciate the skill of both pilots, though. They both made slight errors that caused the crash, but their last actions prior to were nothing short of amazing and probably saved most of the survivors on the Pan Am. Captain Grubb's turn to the left gave precious extra space for Captain Van Zanton's insane last ditch pull up. Those moves actually minimized the damage a head-on collision would have caused.

You’re my favorite on You Tube QXir, I have rewatched a lot of your episodes.

One of the best channels on KZread today. Great storytelling.

I remember seeing a Gorey recreation of this years ago, and I can say, it was a little scarring.

@rileysummers9757

2 жыл бұрын

You got the link? For a friend, of course

@jwalster9412

2 жыл бұрын

@@rileysummers9757 I think it was a KZread video, I can't remember (probably 8 years ago) but I think I recall searching up "747 crash" after watching the mayday about it ( probably got taken down) there was another video that I will try to find, it was about another 747 crash.

I’ve heard this story before, but hearing the Irish lad explaining it entices me for some reason

hey Qxir, thanks for the awesome content as usual. hope you’re having a wonderful day !

Hope all's well man always enjoy the vids

6:30 Great video. I will note that the most egregious thing is that van Zanten of the KLM flight declared firmly "We're going", rather than bother to listen to his First Officer or any further instructions from the controllers. It is truly horrible what at long last, this one decision; led to. This is also what contributed later to KLM *insisting* at first that they had nothing to do with the disaster and trying to run cover for themselves and the captain. 10:40 if you listen back to the transcripts or look over the investigation; van Zanten stands almost solely at the most unreasonable person that day pressured by KLM's existing scheduling practices, but still overly aggressive. Thanks for the video and shedding more light on this as a lot of people have forgotten about Tenerife by now. Keep it up.

I really respect the work of you and this channel. Cheers from 🇨🇦

i have been folowing your videos for a long time.... i must say the quality of you videos has been outstanding so far ... but this one really is superb .... bravo

This reminds me of the Ramstein airbase air show disaster in which an Italian stunt group collided into each other and their burning jets landed on the crowd. My Dad was stationed on the base at the time and watched it happen first-hand. He said that the stuntmen were extremely arrogant the night before and were hungover the day of their show. He was watching the show from the fire station on the runway and ran towards the crash in order to pull people out from the flames.

I was 9 when I heard about it on the news, I was in 🇨🇦 as a child. It was unimaginable at the time, well it still is. It makes me think of “if only”, all of it. Still like u said, there were improvements in communication as a result. Sometimes I think it takes a horrendous thing like this to happen in order for dyes to be taken to prevent it happening again. If that’s not too gruesome I mean.

Great video awesome research and delivery!

I've watched the full 40min 'Air Crash Investigations' episode on this (which I think is where a lot of the simulation footage shown here is from) & learned twice as much from Quixr hahaha! Another killer video mate, keep up the good work, love ya stuff ✌🖤🤘

When final destination decides to do an IRL stream

This is some Final Destination level of coincidence that ended up in an extremely horrifying result

This channel is awesome, thank you, just discovered it yesterday and been watching from short to long hair XD

Lil late to this one, but I'm glad I remember. This is by far one of the best videos you've made. 😎👍

I feel like you could've made this work as a comedic collection of drawings.

Watching this before boarding my flight this Tuesday, lol, if I don't come back, means I'm dead, so brb

@monterjamfan

2 жыл бұрын

Come back and update us

@Mk1Ron

2 жыл бұрын

Clean your bowser history before you leave for your flight, you know……..just in case.

@slavicnonatho8062

2 жыл бұрын

he ded

@PolkaPower0

2 жыл бұрын

I lived, but I gotta fly again this Saturday so brb again.

@beefstew4948

2 ай бұрын

hey bro u good?

Never heard about this, will certainly look into more details. Great video, as usual.

I think I've watched this before, none the less, the best narrative of all the different depictions of this event I've seen. Thanks for the humanistic (somber) telling of a series of unfortunately timed events that corrected a major flaw in the airline industry.

This disaster is just a big OH SHIT. I remember watching an episode of this crash on Nat Geos Air crash investigations. Saddly I forgot what episode what was it.

I remember when this happened. The images on the news channels were horrifying. That's probably how I developed my fear of flying.

Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your content. I think you're an excellent storyteller, and you do your research, which I think is admirable. I subscribe

heckin love it when u upload videos

Damn, my man really bombed an airport, then proceeded to cause the deadliest airplane disaster ever unknowingly.

The fact both pilot tried to move out of the way at the last moment shows they had experience and did their best. Sad story

@trezapoioiuy

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that just the common reaction to a building with wings coming at you at full speed?

@timinou9915

2 жыл бұрын

@@trezapoioiuy I never tried to be honest

Brilliant video as always!

Wow Friend, yet another Amazing & compelling video to add into your Library!!! Job WELL DONE Lad!!!! Hey I was wondering if we could possibly take a few seconds at the beginning or the end of each video to dedicate that video to the victim or victims of that particular incident?? And possibly to the survivors and/or the families of each particular tragedy out of respect for their losses... I think that might be an Awesome way to immortalize them & to pay tribute... LOVE THE VIDEOS FRIEND!!!! Just keep them coming and No One will get hurt Mate!!!!

The problem with exit 3 on the runway was that the pan-am 747 wouldn’t have been able to make a turn that sharp even if they spotted the exit

@uegvdczuVF

2 жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't it? The KLM made a complete U turn on a spot in exactly the same plane?

@uegvdczuVF

2 жыл бұрын

Also the angle is pretty much the same as the one required to get on the runway from their staring position?