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@dave8599

2 жыл бұрын

get a haircut.

@trueaussieray9093

2 жыл бұрын

The audio was a bit distant and quiet in this one chief. And yeah.. you lookd better with short hair..

@NoneNone-is2ui

2 жыл бұрын

Not to be an ass but could you turn down the volume a tiny bit on your next last moments video? I like hearing your voice a bit louder and every time that tone plays I have to wipe the blood from my ears. Also I like the hair long you look good no matter what Qxir screw these other guys.

@johnmosesbrowning1855

2 жыл бұрын

What happend to the drawings?

@cheerdiver

2 жыл бұрын

Having researched this event myself, several years ago, this presentation is half @$$. I've seen aftermath photos of the aircraft in question, and was surprised the damage wasn't more severe. The cable failed at the tower support, due to an overloaded of tensile force. It was NOT 'cut like a knife', by the aircraft wing/tail.

There was a huge national incident following this crash. The president promised to release all the details but the navy refused and destroyed everything after the investigation. I learned a lot about this when i was in training in Pensacola

@dudleyedge1374

2 жыл бұрын

Imago's were agreed, Politics reigned

@RoKBottomStudios

2 жыл бұрын

U.S. navy has a more exposed history of covering their fuck ups than any of military branch. They are very self conscious about their image.

@Mongoliantreecow

2 жыл бұрын

That's wild you were even able to find out about it, we're you flying goshawks down there?

@cronobactersakazakii5133

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t see the need for not serving justice, why the cover up ? These people screwed up, they were responsible for these death, what was the need for covering ?

@SkunkApe407

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mongoliantreecow I saw a guy get sucked into the intake of a goshawk on the deck of CVN-71. I was manning the camera in the superstructure at the time, and had to record the incident and aftermath. That was probably one of the most gruesome things I've ever seen. That's been close to 20 years ago, and it still shakes me to think about.

seeing all that blood splattered over the pure white snow is horrifying.

@obsursion

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and I'm assuming that was AFTER they removed all the bodies, like jesus christ man...

@jtclark877

2 жыл бұрын

Reminded me of when I was traveling across Michoacan state, Mexico in the back of a pickup. There was a taxi that had recently wrecked and flipped over... And the wheels were still spinning when we passed... And blood was steadily pouring out of the back passenger side door onto the ground, into a pool. :(

@KTBFFH

2 жыл бұрын

They must have essentially exploded on impact 😞 imagine being a first responder - I would need a fair few shandies after dealing with that

@unclemao3473

2 жыл бұрын

Not If your finish

@chatteyj

2 жыл бұрын

@@KTBFFH I heard a rumour that some of the bodies faces were twisted in sheer terror when found. May they RIP

I was in the Marine Corps when this happened. A friend of mine was with that unit and was deployed to Aviano during the incident, although he was a Corporal and a prowler mechanic, so he wasn't directly involved. According to him, as well as the scuttlebutt around the Corps at the time, flying under the cable was a pretty regular thing. Like a rite of passage that all of the pilots went through while deployed there. The Marine Corps is full of these seemingly goofy little initiations, and I have no doubt that Marine aviators have their own-this probably being one of them. I don't know this to be true, but that was the rumor. I can say that it seems very likely, and that the details leading up to the incident don't really lend themselves to make one believe otherwise. Concerning how it was handled afterwards, I am absolutely ashamed. At the very least, the pilot should have done some serious time, and $60k to the families plus $5k for burial is disgraceful. The fact that we weren't bending over backwards to make things right (not that anyone ever could) after an incident like that was one of my first lessons as a young man that sadly, our government is not in the business of doing the right thing.

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

All good points...

@Jimmy_CV

2 жыл бұрын

Idk it seems kind of unlikely that they would intentionally fly under it. If you know anything about being in the military it's that rumors spread like a wildfire, hell maybe a guilty cartographer or training officer even started it to cast shade on pilots.

@trolslovenski

2 жыл бұрын

and innocent people again dying because of american idiocracy...just a collateral..like allways..american exceptionalism at its best..again🤢

@notchrisloveing9319

2 жыл бұрын

People that think the government care about them or have thier best interest. Actually scare me 🙈

@AA-xo9uw

2 жыл бұрын

"I was in the Marine Corp when this happened."(sic) You served in the Marines yet can't correctly spell Corps?

Here in Italy this is a massive incident that practically everyone knows about. And the opinion of the US, NATO, and the military definitely suffered.

@hairybubbles127

2 жыл бұрын

Justly so. US Naval ethics demand honesty and ownership of one's actions. This incident didn't reflect that.

@fal2218

2 жыл бұрын

@@hairybubbles127 US naval ethics lmao what a joke

@natowaveenjoyer9862

2 жыл бұрын

@@fal2218 ok foreigner

@fal2218

2 жыл бұрын

@@natowaveenjoyer9862 ok bot

@nuggetsaltshaker9520

2 жыл бұрын

I was stationed in Aviano a couple years ago and I never heard of this.

I am honestly shocked that a high-tension steel cable like that doesn't cut a plane in half.

@alexisXcore93

2 жыл бұрын

The plane is made so survive missles exploding nearby and with lots of redundancy. But yeah, at that speed its almost a miracle

@DoctorNemmo

2 жыл бұрын

The cable isn't that tight. They always have some looseness (consider the temperature).

@SofaKingShit

2 жыл бұрын

The plane had more momentum. It's like a jet of high pressure water slicing through metal because hey water doesn't have as much time to get out of the way as the metal. Although I'm really stoned and just guessing. Probably completely wrong here.

@iginheo

2 жыл бұрын

It almost cut off the right wing of the craft. If you watch the documentary on the incident that show pictures after the incident and you can clear see a gouge that stretched nearly 1/3rd of the aircrafts right wing

@Destilight

2 жыл бұрын

Well it all depends in which angle it took the hit, the wing being at an angle can help the cable slip over it. Also, the cable is not completely tense and has elasticity.

A couple things to note: The pilot's reasoning behind not being able read the altimeter due to malfunction is weak in itself due to the fact that pilots, especially in the armed forces, are trained in determining altitude without the need for the altimeter. The maps were obsolete because they were meant for higher altitudes than what they flew since according to the radio operators, they weren't expecting to fly so low, so of course the ski lift wouldn't be on those maps because they're below.

@TaliyahP

2 жыл бұрын

As a civilian pilot you don't even need training to tell the difference between 2000 and 300 feet. It's very obvious when the ground is basically right up on you

@cefb8923

2 жыл бұрын

Theres no reason during VFR flight you wouldn't be aware you're that low at 300 feet. The map thing, nah, it should have been labeled. I'm not sure what map you mean, a map that only has mountain peaks on it? Sectional charts would definitely list all those things. Still no explanation to why they were below 2000 AGL unless Qxir got it wrong. Those planes are interdiction aircraft so they would do low level training missions. Not sure what Italy's policy is with that at the time though considering a it's a military training mission. Those are common in the US to fly that low.

@davidleitch2298

2 жыл бұрын

You'd think but it happens a LOT. half of the intelligence agency higher ups in Northern Ireland were killed when a Chinook flew into a hill at the Mull of Kintyre in the 1990s. A girl I know had a husband who was an RAF fighter pilot flew into a mountain also. Both mistook their altitudes.

@ecgameplayer

2 жыл бұрын

@@cefb8923 what i remember was that the maps were rated for 1,000 ft and higher, very much above the ski lift.

@ecgameplayer

2 жыл бұрын

@@cefb8923 it's also been reported by locals in the mountains that the jets fly very low and stunt flying by doing what's called flat hatting, where you fly as low as possible.

You missed the fact that the next day the provincial prefect issued an arrest warrant for all 4 crew, but when the carabinieri arrived on the base that morning to arrest them they had already been flown out back to the US. But for sure it was not some kind of cover up. I was stationed in Aviano when this happened, I was never more ashamed of my country.

@User0000000000000004

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we protect our own from a hilariously backward and outdated justice system that uses vigalantism and mob justice instead of law. We've all seen what happens when you don't have the military to cover your ass when you're involved in an incident over there. Their justice system makes ours look functional by comparison, and that's saying a LOT.

@dave8599

2 жыл бұрын

At least you dont have the shame of the italians, whose nation sided with hitler in ww2.

@hilariousbenjamin5614

2 жыл бұрын

@@dave8599 Well at least the Italians then turned around and fought against both the nazis and their own fascists. Better than to run back home to the US to evade justice.

@frankfacts6207

2 жыл бұрын

You should be ashamed of the military

@kristijan9787

2 жыл бұрын

@@dave8599 iraq, afganistan, vietnam, korea, laos, cambodia, all of south america, you americans have your bloody paws everywhere. Be quiet, hypocrite.

I was working at the aircraft maintenance facility this plane was sent to after the crash. You can't see it in the photo, but there was a huge gash in the tail where it hit the cable. As another commenter said, the word around the facility was that the pilot was hot-dogging and showing off. I worked for the military both on active duty and as a civilian for over thirty years, and heard stories of unauthorized risk-taking like this often. No wonder we had to take risk management classes every year. It seems a lot of people think, "Oh, that will never happen to me."

@faizalf119

2 жыл бұрын

They're watching Top Gun and saw Maverick did all those things and think they're the next Maverick

@MiroslavProvod

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised the plane withstood the impact of the cable. These support cables are around 1.5 inch in diameter. This wasn't the first jet-plane collision with a cable car in history, there had been a few before this one, but in all of those, it was the plane that crashed with pilots usually catapulting and the cable car that remained (several of these occured in Italy). The only other one where a plane actually sent a cabin to the ground was Mont Blanc in the late 50s/early 60s where I couldn't find much info about the incident. In several instances planes did severe the thinner tractor cable that just pulls the cabins up and down and when that happened the brakes on the cabins were applied and held them stationary on support cables, but I just wonder what was the material this prowler jet was made from if it managed to severe a 1.5 inch support cable and still manage to fly back to base?

@lebaillidessavoies3889

Жыл бұрын

U right , think it's a common fact in the military, and when shit happens it's all covered.

@DeltaXFish

Жыл бұрын

What's insane is the pilots got away with killing 20 people. The marines covered it up which is even worse....

@gang1798

Жыл бұрын

They should go to jail for life. This is appalling.

Those photos! The blood on the snow is so... graphic, and telling of the carnage that must've occurred to LEAVE that kind of gore

@rstidman

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it makes it hard to laugh at the incident. However, I rise above.

@allaware5014

2 жыл бұрын

@@rstidman i dont think that was the intent of the video..

@Rocco-tb9ih

2 жыл бұрын

@@rstidman what kind of fucking psychopath is laughing at this incident?

@celic190

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rocco-tb9ih hopefully they're using barbless otherwise that'll hurt when you rip it out.

@christopherengel7436

2 жыл бұрын

It's hydraulic fluid not blood. (He writes hopefully)

I remember seeing this a while ago, I cannot believe that they fucked up this bad and got away with it. What a tragedy, rest in peace to all who passed in this.

@magicalfetus729

2 жыл бұрын

Uhhh peace?

@anthonyn1157

2 жыл бұрын

Peace you mean? Piece….

@dingiye2726

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyn1157 Whoops! looks like an insensitive joke my bad

@Dark0neone

2 жыл бұрын

@Mastah Zen well he's obviously a liar and possibly even a sociopath, I'm not surprised that his image was ruined by this.

@mykolastrunce5457

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriscoker7794 Italians responsible that some American kids took a jet for a joyride? They should just have kicked out US forces, until USA sort their shit together

MORAL OF THE STORY, governments and their departments can get away with things that the average person can not. :/

@nicktamer4969

2 жыл бұрын

MORAL OF THE STORY: never tolarate a foreign army on your soil.

@aisaxonawiat6484

2 жыл бұрын

The government is so corrupted now it is like trying to take a clean bite from a worm infested apple.

@giulianoilfilosofo7927

10 ай бұрын

​@@nicktamer4969Bravo

I can say, from an Italian’s perspective, this was really, really stupid and the fact that they got away with them makes all of us mad.

@basedhalo

Жыл бұрын

I think that every European feels the same. I can't stad the fact that killers of my European brothers just got away free

@Strahan740i

Жыл бұрын

Hell, I'm American and it makes me mad they got away with it.

@Adriana-eu6ty

4 ай бұрын

Italians got away after the stresa cabin car accident - 2 of the 3 were found not guilty, the 3rd got house arrest. Italy just has a horrible judicial system, let’s be honest. In this accident 14 people died ( I think), 1 child survived.

I used to work on Prowlers up until the last deployment they had in 2018. The aircraft was not so much a fighter as a jamming electronic warfare aircraft. The highlight beyond the 4 man crew (3 ecm officers and a pilot) was that it was fast. It was designed to be able to evade enemy fire while flying low, so many pilots trained at low altitude, high speed, maneuvering. This incident was a big black mark in the unit's history (VMAQ-2), of which many Marines that were active at the time of incident remained on the last operation, which was coincidentally VMAQ-2 (branded the Death Jesters at the end). It was a good jet, just poor decision making by some pilots.

@abandonedaccount123

2 жыл бұрын

very pretty too, in my opinion

@FoxySpud

2 жыл бұрын

@@abandonedaccount123 I always thought they looked like a quail

@TacBans

2 жыл бұрын

i've wanted to see a prowler for a while now, especially after it got replaced by the hornet and lightning, such a shame it was involved in this mess

@gabelaws

2 жыл бұрын

What does ecm stand for?

@Jimmy_CV

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael Dupre Couldn't agree more, this was clearly a result of the brass effing up and blaming the lower ranks

I'm American and am 54 years old, so I very well remember when this happened. I was ashamed of the conduct of these military men and of our military for not truly holding them accountable. These guys needed to be immediately imprisoned and put on trial in a way that anyone else would be. How terrible to go on vacation and end up plummeting to your death in a cable car. RIP to all those that so horribly perished that day. 😢

@revenevan11

2 жыл бұрын

The military leadership who covered it up and the navy officials who destroyed the evidence and info (not just the tape) so that the president couldn't release it to the Italians should also be in prison for obstruction of justice!

@SmoothTurtle840

2 жыл бұрын

@@revenevan11 Exactly.

@CivilEngineerWroxton

2 жыл бұрын

@@revenevan11 Yes, I totally agree that Bill Clinton and all the other hacks that covered this up should DEFINITELY be in prison.

@katsanddoggies9904

2 жыл бұрын

@@CivilEngineerWroxton Bill only cares for himself just like Hitlery- Narcissistic sociopath.

@Mike-wb3oc

2 жыл бұрын

This is what the military industrial complex has done to American society

The most impressive (for want of a better word) thing to me is the resilience of the plane. Do you realise the sheer force you need to cut 2 inches of fortified cable, only got the plane to get a dented wing? Thats insane

@User0000000000000004

2 жыл бұрын

Physics are fun, aren't they? If you pushed that wing through at a rate if an inch per minute, it would slice through that wing like it wasn't even there. But it was moving slightly faster than that, wasn't it?

@danielyunker5670

2 жыл бұрын

“Staggering”

@justanotherguy469

2 жыл бұрын

@@User0000000000000004 They were moving at a rate of 31,680,000 inches/hr. Which means that they were moving at a rate of 528,000 in/min. Or 8,800 in/sec. Remember, force equals mass times acceleration and mass equals weight divided by gravity.

@GTLees

2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Leishman I agree, that detail was entirely shocking. The fact that they were able to return to base was even more shocking. I expected to hear that the plane was cut into pieces that cartwheeled through the air and into the mountainside. I am totally amazed by what actually happened and it adds a massive amount of integrity to that airframe.

@ohauss

Жыл бұрын

@@GTLees Not half as shocking as the fact that they had no repercussions whatsoever for it. Only for destroying their video tape. Because sabotaging an investigation by the US military is much more grievous than the loss of lieves of some European subhumans. Their own fault they didn't get out of the way, right?

Pilot: *Panics and blames the altimeter for own incompetence* Avionic Technician: I went to school to make sure that your altimeter and bitching Betty work at your higher than fleet standards, the least you can do is remember that you allegedly went to a flight school and know what a fucking mountain at 300 feet looks like vs 2000.

@notmenotme614

2 жыл бұрын

There’s no way they would have took that jet flying if it had a defective altimeter. Even if it went defective mid sortie, they wouldn’t have pressed on at low level. There’s some safety critical systems that you can’t fly without.

@attemptedunkindness3632

2 жыл бұрын

@@notmenotme614 Am aware, it is very common for pilots to pull the breaker for it just so they can do dumb shit like, say, take a video of the inside of an Italian valley. Similar but unrelated, had a AWC try to blame our Air Framers for a canopy window "popping out" of an H-60 into a residential area. It didn't take long for the social media posts of the same aircrewman taking fucking selfies out the window to vindicate that shift and land that dipshit behind a desk.

@Cessna152ful

2 жыл бұрын

People often forget icing is an issue, alot of static port's arn't heated and so they can ice up. it's possible that's what happend. when they landed the altimeter would have worked fine as the ice had melted

@attemptedunkindness3632

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cessna152ful At that altitude? If their pitots failed(only real reason), it was only because they came from a steep dive, and thus were being adventuristic with military weaponry in civilian airspace (in this case, fucking terrain). This is the Mediterranean. Use your brain. There is no AoA in This World that would justify pitot failure, and if there were, there is an entire nest of procedure that alleged pilot could have fallen upon. I say alleged, because the only thing that individual SHOULD be piloting, is a desk.

@bricaaron3978

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cessna152ful Interesting, interesting...... And, uh.....why did they destroy the video evidence if it was just equipment malfunction and they did nothing wrong?

Great video, as always, Qxir. FYI in the "Sopranos" episode where the crew goes to Italy, there's a brief scene where a random Italian walks up to Paulie and angrily confronts him about this very incident. It turns out that wasn't in the script. While shooting a random Italian really did walk up to what he thought was a random American and start to rant about the cable car. Think about that. This normal Italian spots an American and instantly gets in his face. That's how mad Italians were at us after this accident! RIP 😔

@JuanPena-hu4su

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that episode. That's what made me look up this incident.

@Adam-vj7dn

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that was unscripted? Glad they put that in the show

@LucyWest370

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adam-vj7dn are they allowed to do that? Some dude just walks on set and starts yelling at them without realizing its a show and their just like “yeah put it in the show im sure its fine”

@Adam-vj7dn

2 жыл бұрын

@@LucyWest370 are you allowed to ask strangers questions online, or are you a free person who doesn't require government approval to do basic things?

@LucyWest370

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adam-vj7dn oh cool so if I just run around with a camera and record people then post it on a popular television show without obscuring their identity, asking for permission, or even letting them know first, then its perfectly fine? Ok thanks for clearing that up, Ill go do that now.

How do you not realize the difference between 300 and a couple thousand feet just a single flight from becoming an actual fighter pilot even if the altimeter was broken

@ColinBFClarke

2 жыл бұрын

bullshit excuses from officers who watched thr Nuremberg trials. just play stupid and hide evidence

@FriedrichHerschel

2 жыл бұрын

I am not a pilot and still pretty confident I'd notice the difference.

@jplayzow

2 жыл бұрын

@@FriedrichHerschel nor am I but that seems like the kinda thing that would be extremely helpful to know

@c-dawg2145

2 жыл бұрын

Snow can be very deceptive to pilots. Without shadows, it looks far even if you arent.

@jplayzow

2 жыл бұрын

@@c-dawg2145 there must be some extra context clues like there's a lot more mountain here than we were expecting

I drove in one of those cable cars a year or so after the incident, it was completely unfathomable that a jet would actually hit it because it was so low over the ground, at least in regards to any plane in the middle of a living and tourist area. It was such a massive scandal back then.

@mrarci6569

2 жыл бұрын

It has been rebuilt in a completely different manner, with a new station at the bottom of the valley and smaller cable cars closer to the ground. The old style gondola had one single span crossing the valley 100m high...

@MaxiGoethling

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrarci6569 Oh Dan yeah that would make more sense, but it's still completely insane. No jet should even fly in that area.

@Bialy_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaxiGoethling This place were flying under that cable in that one exact spot all the time, it was some kind of tradition in that military base... the cable was 110m above the ground in that place. It is posible that the cable-car was the only unexpected part in this stunt, the pilot was forced to corect the flight because of it and with speed of 540mph it was simply an imposible task to do it right, so he avoided the crash into the car but cut the cable. Because list of pilots that did it before him was ling the army covered up everything...

@Bialy_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stevie-J Hadewich Antonissen (24, Vechelderzande), Belgian; Stefan Bekaert (28, Leuven), Belgian; Dieter Frank Blumenfeld (47, Burgstädt), German; Rose-Marie Eyskens (24, Kalmthout), Belgian; Danielle Groenleer (20, Apeldoorn), Dutch; Michael Pötschke (28, Burgstädt), German; Egon Uwe Renkewitz (47, Burgstädt), German; Marina Mandy Renkewitz (24, Burgstädt), German; Maria Steiner-Stampfl (61, Bressanone), Italian; Ewa Strzelczyk (37, Gliwice), Polish; Philip Strzelczyk (14, Gliwice), Polish; Annelie (Wessig) Urban (41, Burgstädt), German; Harald Urban (41, Burgstädt), German Sebastian Van den Heede (27, Bruges), Belgian; Marcello Vanzo (56, Cavalese), operator of the downhill cabin, Italian; Stefaan Vermander (27, Assebroek), Belgian; Anton Voglsang (35, Vienna), Austrian; Sonja Weinhofer (22, born in Munich, domiciled in Vienna), Austrian; Jürgen Wunderlich (44, Burgstädt), German; Edeltraud Zanon-Werth (56, born in Innsbruck, living in Bressanone), Italian. Go and find some good surgeon that gonna do something for the humanity and gonna perform a lobotomy on your sick, hardly used brain...

@MiroslavProvod

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bialy_1 That's my opinion. He must have done a very well planned research to manouvre a descent from the original altitude of 2000 feet down to the height just below the cable car. This is described in the book I Due Cermis by several eye-witnesses who who saw the plane just before the incident. However, the pilot didn't take account of 1 thing. He must have taken into account the height of the cables when they are suspended with no gondolas on them. Since this cable car had a very long section between bottom station and 1st pylon (I think nearly 1 kilometre), the cable with no gondolas vs. the cable with a fully loaded gondola with 20 people on board must have meant that the gondola could have been up to 4-5 metres lower than during normal conditions with no gondola on that section of the cable. Since the pilot needed to be as high as possible above ground, but just below the gondola, he must have assumed that by flying 4 or 5 metres below would not create any danger to the gondola. And when he realized something was not correct in his calculations it was too late to do anything about it.

The bloody snow really illustrates just how bad this accident was.

Somehow in history there is always something MORE tragic to learn than the last thing! like DAMN. This channel is always telling me a story that I love to listen to but it is ABSOLUTELY CRUSHING to hear. These are real people. gone.

@MiroslavProvod

Жыл бұрын

And it's not the first incident that occured on this particular cable car. On that same cable car, 42 people lost their lives in a cabin that plunged to the ground on 9. March 1976. There is a documentary about it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGF7pMukiZOnobA.html

They should have been in prison for many YEARS not 6 months!! If this happened in civil aviation there would have been a much harsher punishment.

@FriedrichHerschel

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that - anywhere else. Kill 20 people, even by accident, and no way you just get away with it.

@aryangupta6186

2 жыл бұрын

In civil aviation you would have gotten life improsinment

@mahdudes1523

2 жыл бұрын

@@FriedrichHerschel there's a dude who killed 4 people in an accident and ended up getting 110 years in prison, while this guy killed 20 people, ended up getting 6 months, released after served 4 months in jail because of good behaviour, what the actual fuck

@Iberium

2 жыл бұрын

@@mahdudes1523 If you're a cop or military member in the USA you can pretty easily get away with murder if it looks accidental enough, it's disgraceful how little consequences these people faced.

@natowaveenjoyer9862

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iberium Your brain is poisoned by anti-American propaganda. Do you even know what intent is?

Italy doesn't have much luck with their cable cars. Just 2 years ago a cable ripped shortly before the car entered the hilltop station, sending many people downhill to their deaths, because the emergency brakes have been tampered. How these last seconds feel is not something I would want to imagine...

@adamofblastworks1517

2 жыл бұрын

That's the first thing in a while to actually make me furious, even if only for thirty seconds. Which surprises me, since I've been reading and listening about much more drawn-out murders, corruption, and other wrongs to the point that I am rather cynical again.

@DeathlordSlavik

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamofblastworks1517 It makes you angry because unlike most other murders, killings and stuff whoever tampered with the emergency brakes didn't know or even see the people he killed. With most murders the people know each other and with the rest the murderer actually at least sees and knows he is killing that specific person or group of people. In this case though whoever screwed with the brakes didn't go through any of that which just seems wrong to us on an instinctual level.

@adamofblastworks1517

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathlordSlavik I think you're right

@MiroslavProvod

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's right. And Cavalese is especially unlucky as not many people know that this same cable car, which crashed in 1998 due to the impact with the Prowler, had a much worse incident on 9.March 1976, in fact the worst cable car incident to date where 42 people lost their lives: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGF7pMukiZOnobA.html

I had heard of this case before, but somehow I never saw the pictures of the cable car. It's always staggering when you see a scene with so much blood that it looks like it came out of a movie.

@puisnode

2 жыл бұрын

as an italian citizen... i assure you they have never been showed on tv here either

@katsanddoggies9904

2 жыл бұрын

Hydraulic fluid, or we called in the Army Cherry Juice.

@justanotherguy469

2 жыл бұрын

That is the problem with Americans, everything looks like a movie. I do not watch television so everything looks real, and is. I was down by the towers on Sept. 11th and the only people who said it looked like something out of a movie, were people who experienced the event through television.

@SergeantExtreme

2 жыл бұрын

@@katsanddoggies9904 Not true. Given that they were traveling at 500 MPH (805 KMH), the hydraulic fluid would have drifted hundreds of feet forward of the cable car's location. That was human blood, no "if, ands, or buts".

@aisaxonawiat6484

2 жыл бұрын

@@justanotherguy469 ...... there was an incident in Las Vegas where a couple of guys had a shootout after leaving a casino, at a stoplight and then one of the cars plowed into a taxi and created a huge Fireball while three people were incinerated...... Everyone thought a movie was being filmed until it was realized that events were actually happening.

Bruh no way, imagine watching that from the ground. You’d never ride a cable car ever again

@KnoppixCg

2 жыл бұрын

I watched it from a computer chair and I'll never ride a cable car again..

@EatMyShortsAU

2 жыл бұрын

There has been other cable car incident as well.I think there is a really good video on youtube about the Kaprun Disaster in Austria. That is even worst than this..

@chatteyj

2 жыл бұрын

What I want to now is why only one cable car fell, surely if the line is severed it means the tension is lost and all cable cars on the line are affected?

@lewzero

2 жыл бұрын

I saw a chairlift snap the wire in '99, and although the safety latches grabbed and locked, keeping everyone safe (except 1 guy who after waiting 4+hrs decided to jump and broke his foot), but I still haven't gone snowboarding again.

@EatMyShortsAU

2 жыл бұрын

@@lewzero breaking bones is part of the experience though.

This is not the only slap on the wrist incident for US military. September 4 2006 Over zealous US A-10 pilots did a strafing run on a Canadian military staging area. Mark Anthony Graham died and many were wounded as a result. There was a cockpit recording circulating of the event. They reacted before clearance was given and should of had the situation awareness to realize they operating over friendly troops.

@natowaveenjoyer9862

2 жыл бұрын

Fog of war in full effect.

@silverletter4551

2 жыл бұрын

Canada should have counter attacked US forces at once. That was as good as a declaration of war!

Your channel helped me get through an unbelievably stressful move, being able to put you on and learn a cool story from a funny man with a nice voice has been such a treat. Keep it up my guy

@hq4287

2 жыл бұрын

This is such a wholesome comment.

@hq4287

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stevie-J reality check: you know between nothing and zero about this person, because this is the internet. Are you ok? It's not really a comment that's worth speculating about to the degree you are, so is something else bothering you?

@somerand0mpers0n

2 жыл бұрын

@@hq4287 💀

@drufusthedufus

Жыл бұрын

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Love all your content. I think you should start a "I shouldn't be alive" style of series to compliment this series

@cessnacitation-x

2 жыл бұрын

I like that actually. he should definitely consider that.

@ARCHIVEgeminope

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that just be tales from the bottle tho?

@moonliteX

2 жыл бұрын

agreed

@quappo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ARCHIVEgeminope tales from the bottle is just random shit from history, its a miscellaneous category honestly.

@Calvin_Coolage

2 жыл бұрын

@@quappo As someone said in the comments to one of those videos, the only thing separating a Tales from the Bottle and a Last Moments is the funny illustrations.

the endings of the last moments videos always give me mad chills

really great work telling the story of such a horrific event, not passing judgement or trying to lead the audience and really showing the wider geopolitical impact of such incidents

I love this series, Qxir. Something about pondering the sobering realities for those living their last moments brings me back down to earth. Maybe it is something complex having to do with the human fascination over tragedy. Or perhaps it is as simple as being reminded that my own troubles at this moment in time are, in fact, very very small.

This incident was referenced in the sopranos During the Italy episode Paulie tries to talk to an old Italian guy. He responded “You cut out ski-lift cable”

@revenevan11

2 жыл бұрын

Someone else commented that apparently that wasn't scripted... some random Italian was mad enough about the incident that he approached who he thought was a random American 0_0 I don't know that for sure, just from a comment above yours!

@darraghmckenna9127

2 жыл бұрын

@@revenevan11 yeah. Apparently he wasn’t an extra, just an angry local.

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

& as usual spotting (fat) merican is easy

The fact the the snow is red in your last picture is the most haunting of all

VMAQ-2 had an immediate “secret” all hands meeting at the officer’s club and the CO told all to turn over video/photos of the entire deployment. They “smoked” everything with an ECM under one of the prowler’s. They had another meeting to request all material handed over when they got back to Cherry Point at Hancock Lodge and every marine could truthfully say “I don’t have anything to give”. My unit MWSS-271 and 274 were with VMAQ-2 at Aviano that night and the press arrived before the plane landed. It was parked in an enclosed hanger and we had to put up triple strand concertina around the perimeter and set up light sets to keep people from rushing the hanger! We didn’t know what happened at the time. We thought another prowler blacked out Europe with their ECM crap again like a few deployments ago. It was definitely a goat fuck from the beginning and I still have no clue why Clinton didn’t want that aviator prosecuted. If we fucked up out in town for way less of a crime like getting into a bar fight we definitely would get double-dipped by the UCMJ and local authorities. It was 100% a joy ride and they screwed the pooch plain and simple

@johnstreet1812

2 жыл бұрын

If you're going to invent stuff, just make it believable. Wasn't "all hands" or I would have been there, I was aircraft maintenance chief; it was an officer's call. And you can't "smoke" anything under a prowler on the ground; the EMC jammer pods don't work that way. The press did not arrive before the aircraft landed. I know, I was there.

You are so dedicated, I hadn’t watched the channel in about 3 months and there’s so many videos to bench thank you

They hit the ground at 86 miles per hour after falling for 4 seconds.

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

with a resounding W~A~P...

@chatteyj

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't so high 250ft is only 76 metres. Some cable cars can be suspended over much higher distances.

@pyro226

2 жыл бұрын

@@chatteyj 3:15 he says that the cable car fell about 250 feet. Plug that into a free-fall calculator (ignores a slight bit of wind resistance). I've checked it against two calculators and both say about 4 seconds fall time, 86 mph at impact.

@PhilJonesIII

2 жыл бұрын

@@chatteyj Plenty do, I lived in that region and remember that incident well. The point of the cable car is to stop you from falling that kind of distance while moving you around.

@gianni_schicchi

2 жыл бұрын

@@pyro226 the coefficient of drag and terminal velocity aren’t the same as a person. Also, with the cable there may have been some upward momentum from the snap to prolong hang time before falling.

at the intro, I thought this was gonna be Switzerland's next invasion of Lichtenstein

@Dzingzing

2 жыл бұрын

comedy gold

I thought this was another well constructed video from you. Not overly dramatic, just to the point, informative and well narrated. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing this story with us.

The longer hair and you being more confident in showing your face during videos and explaining in person really adds to overall quality. Keep up the great work.

Hey mate I’ve been having a really happy and productive time lately and your videos have really helped me through these uncomfortable times so thanks 🙏

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

athefumen ✅

It's hard to bury negligence with photos of 150 pints of blood in fresh snow.

@dave8599

2 жыл бұрын

How many thousands of gallons of blood did italians spill when italians join ww2 on hitlers side?

The amount of incompetence and negligence in the US military and it's contractors that is swept under the rug and dismissed is beyond comprehension,this just happened to get a lot of press because it was impossible to cover up quickly and neatly.

@natowaveenjoyer9862

2 жыл бұрын

Least worm-brained anti-American.

@marcorizzoni9766

Жыл бұрын

Incompetence would imply that they don’t know what to do. They do. But they don’t care as long as the lives at risk aren’t American and they can cover up their asses.

This might be my favorite YT channel. Thank you Qxir.

Post more! I can’t get enough!

Being an aviation enthusiast, I’ve never heard of this accident. I was left in awe. Great video. Thank you for shedding light on this tragedy, Rest In Peace to all twenty victims.

Never heard about this. You told the story very well and the photographs further emphasizes how horrible this was.

Keep up the good work on the uploads! Every video is 🔥🔥

The US has a serious problem when it come to acquitting people who do wrong doings in the military, especially when it comes to war crimes and terrible "Accidents" such as this

@natowaveenjoyer9862

Жыл бұрын

The US punishes war criminals severely. Any time you hear that some guy accused of war crimes was let go, you should assume you aren't getting the full story.

The fact that so many people (regardless of whether they served in the military, the police, or on the railroad) are subsequently found to be "in breach of regulations" when accidents occur provides insight into the true purpose of regulations.

I do so love the "last moments" and "tales from the bottle" series, I think they've been my favorites. I liked the "100 deadly tips" by the the CIA dude but more because they were so good and plainly outdated and useless, it was a right laugh. Whereas the first two and top quality that teaches me things I wouldn't know and (especially the last moments video's) makes me feel and ponder things I probably wouldn't have otherwise. All in all, all video's you make are great for one reason or another in my opinion, and the use and style of animation is fantastic. Thank you for the content, we appreciate it ::)

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

✅👍

Even if the altitude thing was malfunctioning was the guy really trying to say that he couldn't tell the difference between 300ft and 2000ft.

Loved this video. Back in the early 90s, there was another incident involving a military plane crashing into civilian infrastructure, killing several and maiming about 100 people or so, too. It kinda got swept under the rug back then, since it was a domestic matter in Italy. Would be nice if you could make a video about that one, too. I know how much time and effort you put into these videos, and just wanted to let you know that we all appreciate it. The name of that incident I mentioned was something along the lines of “Italian MB-326 crash - 1990.” Should be fairly easy to find. Thank you again. ♥️

i always love your videos man, keep it up

Incredible video as always! If you would like to take a suggestion, i would definitely recommend the Fox-River Grove incident where a train hit a schoolbus full of students, horrible tragedy that one!

Holy mole. I saw you're videos before and I wasn't picturing the way you really look. Nice to see you bro. Great vids man

Dang. Video has only been up for like 15 minutes, and you've already got over a thousand likes. Ya blowing up, Qxir!

@EatMyShortsAU

2 жыл бұрын

First time I have watch this YT channel and this video was a gem.

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

True dat

Years ago when I was station in Italy. There was still sensitivity about this incident. Tragic. I used an Italian cable car yesterday and recalled the tragedy. I’m disappointed in the crew’s bad actors. The Marine Corps does pride itself on core values and principles. It’s why I joined. Unfortunately there are bullies, misogynists, and shit people. They are few, but it takes better men to step up to bullies. That’s for covering it! Love your content, Semper Fidelis.

@MrRobertX70

2 жыл бұрын

No it wasn’t a few bullies or misogynists. The corps is rotten at the core. Following this tragedy, the entire marine corps encircled their wagons and hid the truth in order to protect their cowardly asses. Core values indeed.

@silverletter4551

2 жыл бұрын

Killing these people makes the marines a terrorist group

Thanks for the video.

another banger, you’re likely the most interesting irish youtuber out there right now

You should do a piece on Lt. Colonel Bud Holland. An arrogant B-52 bomber pilot. He frequently put both his crew and aircraft at risk with reckless stunts. His Command was unwilling to discipline him. As a result, Holland's careless nature led to his death and his entire crew when their bomber crashed turning a rehearsal in front of friends and family.

@Calvin_Coolage

2 жыл бұрын

And it was one of the crew member's retirement that day too.

@Firewordien

2 жыл бұрын

@@Calvin_Coolage Welp seems like it was doomed from the start.

@charlessaint7926

2 жыл бұрын

@@Firewordien Indeed. To add to the woes, on top of the crash happening during a crewmember's retirement flight, the bomber also crashed beside a storage bunker for nuclear weapons.

The video did not mention that initially the Italian police officers tried to take the four pilots under custody, but were not allowed to and then the pilots were quickly moved away and concealed from local authority. After so many years the impact this incident had on every Italian and the consequent coverup by the US is still vivid and the sense of unfairness is still widely spread. Italy has been open to host American comrades and was not expecting this from a loyal ally. Nobody forgot.

Great work as always...cheers!

Absolutely brilliant deduction my friend who does what you do we love you

What a sad story, and what a tragic way for what should've been a wonderful experience for so many innocent people. May they rest in peace and may this truth continue to be told so that nothing like it ever happens again. Thanks as always, Qxir, for bringing our attention to this and so many other crazy things that happen in this wide, dark world of ours. Without you, I'd never have heard of it.

We're getting close to 1 million. I've been here for a while and it's awesome to see the channel grow into such a large community man. Keep it up shoot for a million this year

My favourite KZreadr ATM. Keep up the great videos

THAT was a flashback from hell. I'll never forget that literal bloodbath. Great video. Very well narrated. Amazing how you managed to remain so professional and objective. Everybody knew these poor 20 people died because those loose cannons played "Top Gun". And tried to "top" the movie. Unfortunately the plane and all contents were not immediately seized upon landing to preserve evidence of the alleged accident, and that gave them enough time to swap out the tape, get their stories somewhat lined up and plant enough doubt to discredit witness reports. At least the two sidekicks had some conscience and struck a deal, or this would have ended in some dusty archive, to be forgotten. I remember that the Italians tried everything to prevent the crew from leaving the country. But we all know how things work once the mighty US military (and government in general) shifts into high gear when it comes to covering up. Remember the Japan rape cases? Same basic handling. Again, great video and thanks for bringing this incident back up to the surface. I'm surprised that you were able to find some of the crime scene pictures that had not been sanitized too much. Still haunting as Hell.

Disgusting that our Marines could conduct themselves like this. From the men killing 20 people to them not being held responsible and punished by their peers. Another stain on their honor that can't be washed out now.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather and his Corps brothers were pissed and disappointed that the crew dissembled. Fucking up is bad, lying about it is anathema.

@davidbarnett342

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbryson2899 I bet!

@natowaveenjoyer9862

2 жыл бұрын

Pound sand, anti-American.

Wow this is just a case of typical American lack of justice.

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

plane & simple

@walkingman9171

2 жыл бұрын

And that will never change.

You qxir are my favorite story telling youtuber. Please know you have brought untold joy to many lives. God bless

It always amazes me how many deaths arise from military training.

I think something similar happened to Sqaw Valley cable car in USA in the 1970s or early 80's. Jigback cable cars with two ropes, 1 (or 2) supporting, 1 hauling the cabins are more vunerable to being hit by a plane, handglider, paraglider or helicopter as their pylons are often much higher above the ground and span greater distances than chairlifts or gondolas. Thus, its not uncommon to see orange or yellow plastic balls threaded onto a steel wire hung above the cable car or gondola lift to make it more visible.

Seeing the snow stained in blood is one of the most horrifying real things I've seen

@dave8599

2 жыл бұрын

You should see tye murder that italians did while fighting with hitler during ww2. disgusting the way the italians acted, supporting hitler, murdering the Allies, participating in hitlers racial murders. F italy,

Love your vids man 👍👍👍

Your videos are fantastic thank you

GTA San Andreas in a nutshell, jet just flying around and hitting stuff

@pitnorman

2 жыл бұрын

...and people

@drearyplane8259

2 жыл бұрын

My dude this isn't good taste

I took that cable car long after it happened. I didn’t know the story. I was looking down and saw a bunch of cable on the ground. Later, I asked someone about it and they told me that was the cable left from the crashed cable car. They just left the cable there on the ground!

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

in plane sight...

@thetayz72

2 жыл бұрын

Lol why would they never retrieve it?

@Z6D4C4

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetayz72 why would they retrieve it

@thetayz72

2 жыл бұрын

@@Z6D4C4 So people don't ask why it's there

@NoahSpurrier

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetayz72 It was a long time ago when I was there. I think the person I spoke with said it was too difficult to remove. It was running all the way along the side of a mountain. It’s heavy and long. I remember it was snaked over rocks and ice (it’s just below a glacier). The slope up the mountain is steep. Maybe it’s been removed by now. It’s been 20 years since I was there.

Great video! Thanks Qxir

I swear to god, this fella is the best narrator the world has ever known… I really hope, by now, he has gotten a good, solid career in a much bigger Industry that the KZread Community, he deserves it…

This is why you always have someone to check who’s flying. If they’re literally breaking the law and do reckless stuff, they should be fired.

Hey qxir have you heard of the KZread channel horror stories you both cover some of the same stories yet you both do a amazing job at telling them.

Thanks again

My heart hurts trying to imagine the family members trying to comprehend what/how this is not reality. RIP❤

Just a note that the EA-6 Prowler is an electronic warfare aircraft and not a fighter jet that can engage other aircraft. The missles that it can be seen carrying are for engaging ground radars.

I'm not easily shocked at all but that photo with the red snow... That hit me hard.

I know it’s already been 6 hours and u prob will not see this, but if u do, just know I always smile when I see u uploaded a new vid. :)

Cable cars scare the hell outa me, I can see the mountains just fine from the ground thank you.

Always good seeing notifications from your channel! :)

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

True enough

I said it once and I'll say it again. You are really good at this, and you find really interesting stories to talk about! Can't wait for your next video already!

@JTA1961

2 жыл бұрын

good point 🎯

FYI - Freefall from 250 feet would take a little over 4 seconds before impact.

@MiroslavProvod

Жыл бұрын

That's correct, based on a freefall and setting air drag and force imposed by the cable between the cabin and the station where it was NOT cut as negligible. I talked to a local car mechanic who said that he saw the cable car fall and it was probably all much more complicated than a simple free fall. It was very interesting to listen to his story and I trust him, he was a nice older local guy, very friendly and easy going and he fixed my car for a fraction of the price that other garages asked for. But anyway, he said that he was taking a car for a test drive somewhere on the road below the cable car, stopping on the side to check something. Then suddenly the roar of the Prowler came out of nowhere, but he was used to it as they apparently flew low often in that area. Then he heard something and noticed the yellow cable car falling and disappearing behind trees so he rushed to the scene, being the 2nd person (after a man on a walk with his dog) there. What he said was that the cabin was crashed upside down, which seemed interesting to me, but I imagine the movement of the plane didn't only cause it to fall, but created like a "spinning effect" due to the high speed impact with the cable, which is attached to the cabin at its top... So the cabin must have turned upside down at least once during the fall. I also asked him how long it took for the cabin to fall and he said it was about 10 seconds between hearing the roar of the plane and seing the cabin disappearing behind the trees. The height he said was about 90 metres so 10 seconds does seem to me long, but he said he didn't see the actual plane at all, he just heard it and he saw the cabin while it was disappearing behind the trees so didn't see the whole fall. I would say 3-4 seconds is more appropriate, but there was clearly much more dynamics involved than simply "cut the cable and free fall". It was very nice talking to this chap, but I didn't ask him more questions as he was telling with tears in his eyes how he came to the cabin with blood everywhere and 1 body outside. The body was the cabin attendant and his friend. And on top of all this, he saw this same cable car crash back in 1976 as well. That fall he saw from start to finish, apparently the cabin was starting and stopping, swinging a lot and then the cable snapped and cabin fell. That fall was apparently from 70 metres high and what he said was that the cabin started to fall, then the wind blew against it and held it mid-air while the cable was still connected to the bottom station (he said it looked like a flying kite), and then after about 10 seconds it fell and crashed. I don't believe the "kite" effect as the cabin weighs about 3 tons by itself and with 43 people on board you'd need a tornado to "hold it mid-air", but it may have looked like that as he saw that fall from Cavalese, so looking from above. Anyway, a nice and very friendly guy, but what he's been through sounds scary...

keep up the great vids

4.5 months for 20 lives, no justice could have been achieved in this situation

Another Great video! Though, the EA-6B isn't a fighter aircraft. It is an electronic warfare and anti-radiation ground attack aircraft. They were lots of fun to work on!

@nikvolt8298

2 жыл бұрын

This is true

This happened a year after I moved from there. My dad worked in Aviano air base. We stayed in Vicenza Italy’s from 1990-1997. Crazy that happened.

Nice Video!

I remember hearing about this, and I felt so horrible for those people and how terrifying their last moments were 😔

Absolutely disgusting that no one was punished for this. 65 000$ as a first compensation is an absolute insult. My heart goes out to the victims.

I very well remember this tragic incident because at that time I couldn't believe that the plane survived the collision with the cable and was able to return. I wasn't aware of the circumstances that led to this incident and that the military staff involved more or less got away without consequences. I never would have thought that I will stumble over this tragedy again and that it will be forgotten - great to see that it's not the case and this video serves to keep a memory for the victims of that day in the past.

@MiroslavProvod

Жыл бұрын

There was a much worse incident on this same cable car in Cavalese on 9.March 1976. It was in fact the worst cable car incident to date where 42 people lost their lives: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGF7pMukiZOnobA.html

Last Moments is my favorite segment