I feel like Spider-Man Unlimited’s Green Goblin should get a pass because it’s a complete different character. It’s not really an adaptation more like an alternate version

@KillerMoth_Stumpy

5 ай бұрын

He's still a green goblin adaptation, though. He counts Edit: Yeah, I agree with you now. The replies made good points.

@WHY-FHY

5 ай бұрын

He still takes the mantle of the goblin

@hailedkeanu7499

5 ай бұрын

@@KillerMoth_Stumpyit’s not an adaptation, it’s a reimagining of the character. The ultimate series in general is less of an adaptation and more of a creative reimagining since the purpose of the series was to remake the series and put brand new spins on iconic characters. They weren’t trying to adapt or repeat what they’ve been doing for decades. Most adaptations make minor changes to lore here and there, maybe some changes are less minor than others but they don’t change TOO much. But a reimagining is a totally different thing that flips the lore on his head

@acidaspida8885

5 ай бұрын

@@KillerMoth_Stumpy Its the same situation as spidergwen though.

@_bass3xe838

5 ай бұрын

I thought the ultimate green goblin wasn’t that bad, looks better than just a green guy on flying kite

The fact that he couldn’t find a bad adaptation of Triple J goes to show how often Spider-Man media gets him right and I love it

@theamazingspooderman2697

5 ай бұрын

I mean there's not much to get him wrong either

@giggitygoo100

5 ай бұрын

Because it's all J.K. Simmons 💀

@CyTheRabbit

5 ай бұрын

@@giggitygoo100 not every Jonah is played by JK Simmons, just most of them

@erlendkaarb2038

5 ай бұрын

I don't like that JJJs positive sides haven't been featured in the MCU.

@CyTheRabbit

5 ай бұрын

@@erlendkaarb2038 there are a few signs of it being shown like when Green Goblin was questioning him on where Peter Parker was and Jonah didn’t rat him out

"Venom is goofy, even as a villain" "Gwen Stacy in comics was a bland character" Proof that this guy has actually read the comics and isn't just repeating what others have said.

@zayy4440

5 ай бұрын

Literally I was shocked when bro spit that trash at me

@rayv6671

5 ай бұрын

​@@spidermania I think bro was agreeing with you

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

@@rayv6671 ah shit Lmfaoooo

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

Damn i definitely misread what you wrote and I’d like to apologize for my statements LOL I take full responsibility for my comments I appreciate you looking out for me

@He-who-wakes

5 ай бұрын

Venom is goofy as a character tho. At least when he first started out he was goofy

I think you were wrong about Lizard. The worst adaptation is definitely from the 2017 cartoon. Connors is a horrible person who exposes Peter's identity to frame him. There's no emotional attachment to Peter, and he is a useless lizard.

@arinhossain2100

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. Not sympathetic

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

Hmmm I def think that’s a very awful rendition of the character. Idk how I let him slip through this video

@KillerMoth_Stumpy

5 ай бұрын

@@spidermania hmmm. Idk. You could make a comment and pin it, or just mention it in a later video saying you changed your mind? Idk 🤣

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

@@KillerMoth_Stumpy lots of people suggested doing a sequel video so don’t be surprised to see it there

@KillerMoth_Stumpy

5 ай бұрын

@@spidermania ok thanks. I saw another comment thread where you and others were discussing green goblin too, I'll watch when the next one comes out

Venom 2 trying to make Carnage a sympathetic villain was an atrocity. Carnage's entire personality is that he is irredeemably evil.

I was laughing so hard when you pulled out the Incredible Hulk TV show from the 70s and a Wii game as worst adaptations for Kingpin and Lizard😂😂😂

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

Bruh those to were EASILY THE WEIRDEST lol

@davidbjacobs3598

5 ай бұрын

@@spidermania Okay, but have you seen Kingpin's appearance in the Spider-Woman cartoon from the 70s? He turns invisible, but you still know where he is at all times, because he's constantly eating and we can see the food.

@dolier2802

5 ай бұрын

@@spidermania Tbh I like the trial of the incredible hulk's version of Kingpin, similar to JJJ, I don't think we really have a bad on screen depiction of the character

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

@@davidbjacobs3598 I’ll definitely have to rewatch I do not remember that at all LOL

@hulyaterzi8560

4 ай бұрын

@@davidbjacobs3598 THERE WAS A SPIDER-WOMAN CARTOON?!

The problem with insomniacs venom is it being just a “goo hulk”. He can’t swing from webs (which is a venom trait passed from the host), doesn’t act like a spider neither nor does he joke with Parker a lot. Venom is a character that is the most iconic spiderman villain and he’s supposed to act like his “poison”. The emblem on the chest represents his spider like abilities yet isn’t. I can do this all day but I hope y’all get the point

@theamazingspooderman2697

5 ай бұрын

they even copied the scene of Hulk where he jumps at an airborne object shooting at him and then repeatedly punching that object from Avengers movie and yeah u nailed Venom's description

@irvinreevesinbaraj6134

5 ай бұрын

Insomniac's Venom is like 10 feet something, which automatically makes him bigger than most versions of the Hulk.

@slasherxjasonmercs

5 ай бұрын

He's not supposed to even in the comics he's still very different from Spider-Man everyone thinks Venom is just supposed to be an evil Spider-Man but he is so much more way much more Venom's whole purpose was to take over the world and infect people with the Symbiote that was his original purpose later on it begins to become destroying Spider-Man plus all are just finding something to complain about cuz I guarantee you if Venom was exactly like Spider-Man you wouldn't want to play the game and you'd probably say "there's nothing different Venom is just evil Spider-Man with a black suit"

@theoneperson3996

5 ай бұрын

Venom is literally just Knull Harbringer in this game. His entire personality is "Goo and Angry at Spider-Man" and: Eddie Venom was massive cause Eddie himself was Massive. Symbiotes still have limits how much They can spread and grow. Carnage had to 24/7 eat meat to grow enough mass to take over small city. This Venom have unlimited goo and is Hulk sized. Venom was Goofy, he was Goofy even when as Villain which was Mentioned in Video. He dies, like dies dies and his personality makes it really hard to see potential Venom Spin Off (No way They dont have plan with there being entire fully Playable Venom Segment) and believe he Lethal Protector now. Venom did bad stuff but wasnt stereotypical Alien Invader.

@slasherxjasonmercs

5 ай бұрын

@@theoneperson3996 incorrect if you think his personality is goo and mad at Spider-Man you didn't pay attention to the game personality is so much more than that yes symbiotes have limits but with meteorite from their planet make some more stronger even in comics he can spread without having to eat anything as long as he has the meteorite also that's not really true cuz Eddie in the Tom Hardy Universe still massive Eddie Brock isn't massive in the comics there's been some times where Eddie Brock wasn't massive and Venom still was all this to say Venom is a symbiote who bonds with his host emotions towards Spider-Man are loving and caring not hatred if you play the game venom has Harry's emotions meaning he truly cares about Spider-Man thinks what he's doing is right thinks what he's doing is helping people but at the same time symbiote itself also wants to spread

I actually really liked the Insomniac version of Venom. They did say it would be different going in, plus there’s a spinoff on the way so I’m not counting it out yet. If I was to give a worse version of Venom, I’d say the Ultimate Spider-Man (TV) version. Every other version the symbiote is an alien from space, that version is made out of spidey’s blood and insecurities and they would find the stupidest ways to keep bringing it back

@justsomeguywithnanomachine7745

5 ай бұрын

criminal he didnt mention that one

@JacobNintendoNerd99

5 ай бұрын

Oh hell no. That very clearly goes to Sonyverse Venom. A lot of Ultimateverse got stupid as it dragged on but Ultimate Venom's debut storyline was some of the best Spidey content period and a high point of Ultimate Spider Man, there's a reason they had Symbiote Ultimate Spidey in Shattered Dimensions. And Insomniac's Harry Osborne is basically Ultimate Eddie Brock in everything but name (with a tiny dash of ASM2 Harry thrown in for spice); clearly Ultimate got some stuff very right and fundamentally understood the core elements of why Venom is one of Spider Man's 3 archfoes. Venom movie Venom strips away almost every aspect of Venom that matters and turns him into the homeless loser of symbiotes along the way, to such a degree that some of his most iconic design aspects and powers (like shooting webs and having the spider symbol) can't even be justified in the continuity. It would be like if Nintendo announced the Zelda movies wouldn't have Link but the first film is a Dark Link movie without Link even being in the continuity. I'd sooner have faith in a solo Green Goblin movie than I would a solo Venom movie, it was about the worst idea they could have come up with to try and start "spider man universe without spider man"- let's pick the one character who is literally verbatim called "the evil spider man" and "the shadow of Spider Man whose existence is intrinsically and forever linked to his past" by Stan Lee.

@funsquidtag5063

5 ай бұрын

​@@JacobNintendoNerd99 I'm not talking about the comics. I'm talking about the version they did for TV where eddie brock was not in it at all

@JacobNintendoNerd99

5 ай бұрын

@@funsquidtag5063 Oh shit. That makes more sense. Damn shared titles and non specific version namings!

@funsquidtag5063

5 ай бұрын

@@JacobNintendoNerd99 All good. I should have specified it was the tv version. I have no hate for the comic version. In fact I think they actually look quite cool

The movie Venom is quite honestly, one of the best adaptations. Yes his origin is different but the character? Dude is basically Lethal Protector and Neversoft Venom and he steals the show everytime he speaks. Miles better than many versions that erase the humor out of him (Like Friends or Foe, Mua3 and Raimi3) and expecially better than the mindless creature we see in Ultimate Spiderman.

@Muksss

5 ай бұрын

if you're talking about the Ultimate Spider-Man game its a great adaptation of the Ultimate comics

@motor4X4kombat

5 ай бұрын

Thats not venom. Thats the coockie monster

@CrazyEight-art

5 ай бұрын

Thank god someone else agrees. Venom is single handedly my favorite marvel, hell, even comic book character in general, and the movie version was great. Sure it wasn’t traditional and didn’t have Spider-Man, but I think the way they handled it was fine, and the venom-Eddie relationship was perfectly portrayed in a goofy like manner, especially in venom 2. And carnage in that movie was dope too, he got too much hate.

@motor4X4kombat

5 ай бұрын

@@CrazyEight-art sure and spectacular spiderman is a garbage show with the worst venom ever...

@maverick5169

5 ай бұрын

@@Muksss a great adaptation of the worst Venom ever who was written by a Venom hater (because a mindless monster is apparently better than nuanced mix of humor and grotesque). Hence a garbage adaptation of the original character

Spider-Man 2 Mysterio was my first introduction to the character. I liked how he had a more alien vibe than other adaptations. The funhouse of doom level was one of my favorite parts of the game.

@davidbjacobs3598

5 ай бұрын

I love his final "fight." It's so silly and had me laughing hysterically. Great memory!

@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX

5 ай бұрын

@@davidbjacobs3598 that was a perfect way to end his character in the game. The whole time I thought Mysterio was a real villain and the game was building him up to be a big scary boss… only for him to go down with one punch at a grocery store. Then he was revealed to be Quentin Beck and the whole Mysterio persona was fake. You could imagine how I reacted as a kid. It’s a very accurate portrayal of Mysterio in my opinion.

@toongrowner1

4 ай бұрын

his whole arc (including the quentin back challenges) is my fav. part in the whole gameXD

@thegreatscribbles960

4 ай бұрын

The alien motif was in the comics as faked being a alien they just amped it up in the game

Matthew Lillard as carnage with Andrew coming back would’ve been a dream come true 😢

Nah bro insomniac venom def gets a free pass Its not like any other venom He has a diff host so like that’s why his intentions are different

@dbell_

4 ай бұрын

You know venom has had different host before its just that Eddie is the main continuity host but I agree insomniac did a good job idc

@k2tme451

4 ай бұрын

Questions for you: Venom is Eddie and the symbiote, they named themselves that because they don't like Spidey. Why does Harry name himself venom? What part of Harry hates Peter enough that he would feasibly, want to even be poison to Spider-Man?

@ItzApotato5907

4 ай бұрын

@@k2tme451 the symbiote in the game was called venom coz the canister in which the symbiote was had a code name And that code name was vnm 262

@k2tme451

4 ай бұрын

@@ItzApotato5907 So it got its name from human serial numbers, on a canister. Almost like it was obligatory to name him that and not because of the character's own motivations.

@dante_0962

2 ай бұрын

That’s a dumb excuse for a video about adaptions. That’s if I’m making a tire list on how faithful different adaptations are to their source material, but I Ignore one of them for whatever the reason is.

To be fair... Insomniac did say that their version of Venom was a completely different approach and original take on the character. So I don't think you can really compare Insomniac Venom to classic Venom.

@xeibei4804

5 ай бұрын

Still a bad Adaption

@isostormgamer5584

5 ай бұрын

@@xeibei4804 we can agree to disagree.

@fazedmazed

5 ай бұрын

@@xeibei4804definitely not worse than Raimi's SM3 Venom lmfao

@GabesEdtiz

5 ай бұрын

@@xeibei4804Still way better than both of Sony’s attempts at Venom.

@scivoid

5 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the completely different and original take that does nothing different or original. If they actually took Venom in some radical never before seen direction that'd be different but this adaptation was kind of by the numbers and the only reason they changed the host was to build on Norman Osborn's villain arc.

I don’t hate insomniac venom but he did need more time in the game than they gave him but let’s hope they bring him back and make it eddie Edit: So I just found out about the leaks about insomniac roadmap, I can laugh the people who thought Venom wouldn’t come back

@xeibei4804

5 ай бұрын

He wont come back we see the symbiot die

@caldervanegas240

5 ай бұрын

@@xeibei4804 well carnage is coming and we didn’t find out where the piece of venom’s tongue went. And venom is one of the biggest spider man characters it wouldn’t surprise if me he comes back

@anidiot192

5 ай бұрын

​​@@xeibei4804they're hoping to make a Venom game, so they very much might come back.

@xeibei4804

5 ай бұрын

​@@anidiot192i cant imagine them doing it. It already took them so long to release spiderman 2 now they gotta make a nee game for miles, spiderman 3 the wrap up the goblin stuff and are making a wolvering game. I hope tho they do

@GabesEdtiz

5 ай бұрын

Either way, he still was way better than Sony’s Venom.

I don’t think insomniac’s venom should be called bad just for not being Eddie and having a different motivation. Sure, The Dialogue Can Be Confusing As You Wonder If Venom’s Talking Or Harry But The Thought Of Him Doing All Of This To Heal People But Seeing It Through A Twisted Lens Makes A Cool Idea And Venom Is Just A Beast As He Killed The Man That Killed HALF Of The Sinister 6 And Wasn’t Even Impressed. Also, I Can’t Tell If You Don’t Like Him Having The Gooey Tendrils But If So, I’m Wondering If You Know What Symbiote’s Are And They’re Abilities Because That Is A Normal Attribute Of Symbiote’s And Can Form Objects Like Bombs Or Scythes Easily. Also, just because he isn’t as goofy doesn’t mean he’s bad. Sure, the whole darker venom isn’t the same as the original but it’s still a great adaptation and Harry doesn’t want revenge on Peter so there’s no reason to make many quips against him as his motivation is to Help everyone. To Improve everyone. To heal everyone. Next, the hulking beast thing isn’t that amazing but it’s still good. The way your describing him makes him seem like he’s not always a giant or big or muscular and if he wasn’t then we’d be closer to just having another spider-man 3 movie venom. This venom is good so I don’t think he deserves the hate your laying down on him

@nunogabriel646

5 ай бұрын

an adaptation means you're adapting something. And they adapted only the design. It isnt the same character, same motivations, same personality. The only thing they have in common is the looks and the name. And the reason for they name are totally different too. One is because of the venom eddie and the symbiote feel towards peter/spidey the other is just cause it sounds cool

@wyattlundrigan4740

5 ай бұрын

@@freddycashbear2164 Sonys Venom at least gave the character a bit of personality, outside of mindlessly killing people and taking over the city like some generic forgettable super villain.

@owlomar2007

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't like how everyone hates an adaptation because it's different and newer , that's called nostalgia at its worst . Doing something new makes things interesting Also did everyone forget about WOS Venom , he's basically the same idea as Insomniac Venom , he's not comic accurate at all and doesn't have the same anti-heroic goofy personality as the original Venom yet I see nobody complaining about him nor saying that this was a disservice to the character, again another example that proves that nostalgia is one of the reasons because people will say WOS is better SM2 because of nostalgia

@nunogabriel646

5 ай бұрын

That might be true, but for me the worst venom is still Insomniacs for various reasons. And the ultimate cartoon show

@slasherxjasonmercs

5 ай бұрын

They actually did Venom perfect it is really good Venom's original purpose was to spread the Symbiote and infect the Earth in the comics I'm glad that they made that similar and not just made him hate Spider-Man I'm glad they gave him more purpose than to just hate Spider-Man and as for the dialogue it's not really confusing he's trying to trick Peter into letting him quote on quote Heal the World but also maintaining a symbiotic Bond meaning that there is a double meaning behind the whole Heal the World thing part of Venom which is Harry wants to heal the world with Peter the other part of venom wants to spread the Symbiote like he was supposed to do since the Symbiote does heal people they decided to do both

The Insomniac Venom was different, but I still think he was pretty cool

My opinion the Insomniac version of Venom was really unique and not something like “hey it’s Eddy Brock again” and if I must say the look of Agent Venom even after is not shown again after Kraven Fight I really appreciated it.

@doctjoe

4 ай бұрын

"Hey it's Eddy Brock again" Think for a moment, when was the last time we got a proper adaptation of Eddy Brock Venom outside of his movies?

@zeldagameryt4018

4 ай бұрын

@@doctjoeWas it the 2017 cartoon since that was the last time I remember him as Venom? (In recent years)

@heromaxpower

4 ай бұрын

There’s a good video about this, the answer is it’s arguable Eddie hasn’t been properly adapted since spectacular. Even then, Eddie just isn’t used very well. Multiple people were venom in 2017 i think? It was more about the symbiote than the host.

@Shredder_Animations

4 ай бұрын

@@doctjoe 2017 cartoon, yes it wasn't properly handled after Venom randomly doesn't need a host and just goes from host to host but before that it wasn't that bad and properly adapted into it's own version.

@dante_0962

2 ай бұрын

The reason he’s called venom is because Eddie and it hate Peter I’m pretty sure they mentioned that in the comics and even spectacular spider man show even brought it up.

• Spider-man unlimited goblin could be pretty interesting if he was own character. Though might need to to make him look less like green goblin and vulture if that happened. • Live-action carnage was bad but his design was FIRE. Also are you sure spider-man unlimited isn't the worst? • What do you think are the best and worst adaptions of scorpion, tombstone and hammerhead?

@GreaserMan

5 ай бұрын

Live action Carnage looked almost as bad as he was written. They got nearly everything fundamentally wrong with his design, they literally just went "red Venom"

@Coconut_Prrson

5 ай бұрын

I do prefer Carnage when he is smaller than Venom tho. makes him look more like a neferious little goblin. just an absolute bloodthirsty gremlin

@lbrett7054

5 ай бұрын

@@GreaserMan Describe how you would design him.

@lbrett7054

5 ай бұрын

@@Coconut_Prrson I do agree that carnage should be leaner and more lightly built. But I have no problem if they have the same height, even if that isn't the usual.

@GreaserMan

5 ай бұрын

@@lbrett7054 Blood red colour. More distinct difference between red and black. Black teeth. Pink mouth. No tongue. Shoe feet. Played by Cameron Monaghan. Ya know, Carnage.

Spider-Man 3 Venom is the most accurate in terms of origin because originally venom said “I “and not “we” and it didn’t increase his size Eddie was just unnaturally buff for a reporter plus it had inspiration from ultimate Eddie Brock if you compared the two eddie Brock’s side by side so it was a fusion of ultimate Eddie Brock and 616 symbiote. Sony venom is the most inaccurate in terms of origin but it nails how wacky venom is and the friendship between Eddie and the symbiote.

The worst JJJ is Lego marvel super heroes. His voice is HORRENDOUS

Me personally, the only take I disagree with from this video is Venom only because it’s a different variant of the character. Venom has had a handful of hosts: Eddie Brock, Harry Osborn, Mac Gargan, Flash Thompson, etc. That is why I can understand the changes to the character in the Spider-Man 2. It is the best portrayal for a Harry Osborn Venom, which there haven’t been many, but as a whole I think he is a good Venom overall

@syrupsandwiches8664

4 ай бұрын

Also people were saying venom was supposed to be goofy, but this version of venom is more similar to Ultimate Spiderman (comics) venom and web of shadows venom, who both were serious

@syrupsandwiches8664

4 ай бұрын

Also I thought venom was more goofy because he bonded with Deadpool first before Peter

You should do *BEST costumes for EVERY spider-man character*

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

Not a bad idea homie

in my opinion, Venom in Spider-Man 3 is not so bad, he hardly conveyed the essence of Venom in the comics

Well actually venom and andrew spiderman are actually in the same universe since they are in sony and venom lives in San Francisco while andrew spiderman lives in new york so thats why spiderman wasn't there.

I did like the episode in Spider-Man Unlimited where Venom was separated from the symbiote and we got to see Eddie Brock as a person and see his sympathetic side when being nursed back to health.

Spider-Man: Lotus version of Peter Parker/Spider-Man are worse version adaptation of Spidey at all!

14:16 Really, I mean it's still far better than the emo mutant kid version of Vulture from the Ultimate Spider-Man series, he's got a interesting backstory but the design and character does not work for me. They could have gone with the bald senior-citizen instead

I like both lethal protector venom (goofy and funny) and the big hulking venom and ig in the venom game you’re gonna get the venom that you want. But what I don’t agree at all with is that Harry had no motivation to him being venom he definitely did and venom doesn’t just have to be Eddie brock. Even in the comics venom has had other hosts.

@dante_0962

2 ай бұрын

The only reason he’s called venom is because of Eddie Brock.

I forgot that unlimited made Venom and Carnage brothers

Honestly, I kinda disagree on Insomniac's Venom. It's a canon thing that the Symbiote chooses different hosts. Such as Mac Gargan being an occasional host. And Harry was Venom in Ultimate Spider-Man. Insomniac confirmed they wanted a different take on Venom from the comics, because they don't want to retread old stories. And I didn't think he was goofy. He was threatening, and more importantly, he's an antagonist to both Peter and Spider-Man, hence why Harry had to be Venom. Stan Lee said Venom is a mix of Peter and Spider-Man's enemy. But it's your opinion. I subbed btw. 😉

@ms_0317

5 ай бұрын

He didnt say he was goofy he said he wanted him to be goofy because thats what venom normally is

@Artist_Unbound

5 ай бұрын

​@@ms_0317, I misheard then. Fair enough, but it still fits in with the fact that they wanted a different perspective on Venom's character.

@Artist_Unbound

5 ай бұрын

@@batmanarkhamfan-cr4do, he wants to do more than take over the world. He wants to save or "Heal" the world. He is Venom in the narrative of the story because he's an antagonist to Peter and Spider-Man. With Harry being Venom, he wants to save the world by turning people into Symbiote zombies, because the Symbiote was keeping Harry stable, slowing his disease. The Symbiote in the game genuinely cared about Peter, and was hurt by being rejected by him. It's actually more fleshed out than in the comics or other media imo.

@Artist_Unbound

5 ай бұрын

@@batmanarkhamfan-cr4do, Yeah. I'm on the camp that the Symbiote doesn't really turn people dark. Instead, it helps them let out their negative emotions that they repress. So if anything, the Symbiote is a victim as well. We're gonna have to wait and see, because Tony Todd confirmed that there are unused Venom dialogue we have yet to hear. Either way, I liked Venom in Ps4 2.

I agree with the avengers spiderman being one of the worst but I feel like the 1970’s spiderman was the worst adaptation ever because 1. He had really had no story it was mostly just action and stuff 2. Spiderman didn’t even talk 3. The costume looks bad.

The Raimi Flash is way worse than the MCU Flash in my opinion. Flash in the MCU reminds me of actual bullies from school, annoying kids who talk a lot of shit but wouldn't do anything. Raimi's Flashes most notable thing is him trying to beat up Peter at school, besides that he has zero character. MCU Flash is also a Spider-Man fanboy

I can't agree with the carnage pick, any story that references him going through the internet in maximum carnage gets a pass from me

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

LOL honestly totally fair

Yeah Venom is a goofy dude. Still like insomniac venom for what he is

You know fans of Insomniac's Venom have never touched a comic in their lives.

I don't think anyone would disagree with you about Avengers Game Spider-Man being awful I certainly don't, the game was so bad I took it back and got my money back after a week

I actually really like Spider-Man 2 mysterio. Probably because that was my first introduction to the character. But as a kid he creeped me out, I legit thought he was an alien. He’s probably the reason why I have a fear of aliens today.

The reason why the original trilogy and TASM1 were memorable, was because of the producer LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her husband (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the movies had depth She was the only one capable to tell AVI ARAD when to back off Unfortunately, she died in 2011, during the production of TASM1 Without her, there was no one to stop Arad from destroying the franchise Spider-man was nothing without her

2017 show Miles is a more terrible adaptation. He has nothing to really set him apart from Peter, he is too close to age to him, he goes to the smart school with Peter too. He's just bland.

@user-jj5pm4xo6n

3 ай бұрын

You just described every miles comic book

I feel like everybody gets the whole "they're not a match" thing wrong with Carnage in Venom 2. I believe that they were basically the perfect match that we know them to be in the comics but if you remember when they are said not to be a match it is when carnage starts strangling Shriek which I believe is the one thing Cletus and the symbiote didn't agree on. So when Carnage tried to kill Shriek and Cletus tried stopping him I think it just STOPPED them from being symbiotic and the perfect match but before that they basically were since they had the same goal and where bonded on a molecular level as we see with Carnages abilities in the film.

@ilikepancakes2368

5 ай бұрын

The fact that Cletus even had romantic feelings towards Shriek is what killed the character for me. Cletus is a psychopath and he’s sees Shriek as only an acquaintance at best. The only thing they have in common is their desire for Mayhem. Carnage could care less what happens to Shriek.

@chandllerburse737

5 ай бұрын

The movie makes it clear they aren’t a perfect Match while Eddie and Venom are. Carnage and Cletus also refer to each other separately while the perfect matched Carnage of the comics only refers to itself as one entity as a whole while Eddie and Venom never do. They are still not a match as much as their comic counterpart

PS1 Venom is the goat

Insomniac Mary Jane is definitely the worst. Wrong job, wrong dreams, completely different personality, and her hair is not even red in the 2nd game. It's a weird brown color.

The 90s adaptation making Electro red skull’s sun is so hilarious to me. Like show-runners famous for not even allowing Spider-Man to throw punches because it needs to be child appropriate turned around and went “hmmmm how do we make this character less boring for kids watching?Oh I know let’s make him a Nazi that’ll make him cool!”

My opinion is that Edward Brock has been used too many times. I felt a break when insomniac chose Harry Osborn.

@springsaber

5 ай бұрын

I'm confused what do you mean by that

@superstarultra

5 ай бұрын

@@springsaber He means the fact that the Symbiote was given to Harry for a change instead of Eddie like usual. Not a lot to be confused about.

@walterandrews4985

5 ай бұрын

hopefully Green Goblin is a random person in the next game since they have used Norman Osborn too much😂😂

@superstarultra

5 ай бұрын

@@walterandrews4985 Your comment instantly lost any value the second you used cringe emojis like a FaceBook mom. Edit: I like how you accused me of not arguing against the point being made, when in reality I just didn't think that your comment had any worth to it to even warrant a debate. Also me not wanting to argue against some tool on the internet makes me a "gen z twitter brain"? Dude, I was born in the 90s, try to actually be creative in a comment section next time.

@walterandrews4985

5 ай бұрын

@@superstarultra instead of arguing the point being made, try to talk trash. Definitely a gen z twitter brain 😂

Swapping out Eddie Brock with Harry Osborn was an excellent move on Insomniac’s part because the writing on his arc is nearly flawless. Harry was a dying man who wanted to heal the world, and the symbiote offered him a twisted version of that dream through turning others into symbiote infected zombies. The game made Venom more than just a stalker out to kill Spider-Man. Venom was actually a threat to the safety of not only New York City but the entire planet. And his relations with Peter (being that Harry is his best friend) as well his motivations makes Venom a very sympathetic character. And Tony Todd has given us one of the best comic book villain performances of all time to boot. He is better then the movie versions of Venom Insomniac version is one of the best. But at least you put Spider Man Unlimited instead. For Electro, it should have been the 2017 cartoon instead. They gender swapped that character. 90s Electro is peak even if it wasn't Max Dillion

@Manuelaiello204

5 ай бұрын

Not really the Symbiote is evil for no reason and out of nowhere it comes with the "let's take over the city" and I don't like how they blame everything on it like with peter it's like "I wasn't angry it was the Symbiote it's all his fault" when the Symbiote doesn't do that he enhances your negative emotions it doesn't just make them out of nowhere

@arinhossain2100

5 ай бұрын

@@Manuelaiello204 no, it didn't came out of nowhere. The symbiote thinks it's full filling Harry's dream of wanting to heal the world. The symbiote didn't become evil for no reason. Once it touches the meteorite, it gains the memory on when it first crash lands on Earth. Plus every version of the symbiote is like that. Where the more Peter keeps it then the more it alters his personality and makes him aggressive. That part stayed true to the source material and as seen in previous iterations like Spider Man 3, 90s and Spectacular Spider Man

@BM-sg1sl

5 ай бұрын

They got venoms characterization completely wrong as the video said. All venom was was an evil hulking goo monster with a meatpuppet kid host named Harry. He didn’t have any of the real venoms motivations

@KrypticSpiderMan

5 ай бұрын

​@Yurislug Yeah, and the original version has been sidelined or further added after the 90s show. And even then, i think there's been some comics that show that the symbiote was being more hostile with crime while Peter was asleep. So it's not like the symbiote isn't prone to commit heinous acts thinking its what the host wants (insomniac venom)

@arinhossain2100

5 ай бұрын

@@Yurislug then why is Peter blaming it on the symbiote saying things like "you will lose yourself".

To be fair on the Black Cat one, she doesn't really push for Peter to be evil and take over the world until she herself is under the influence of her own symbiote. Until then she just acts as her normal seductive bad influence for Peter. She starts out all "let's have a little fun" to "let's dominate the earth" and it's 100% the symbiote that is still attached to her in Web of Shadows.

The worst Spider-Man? Spider-Man Lotus. By far.

No hate but i love spider-man 3s venom,hes everything i love about the character in one adaptation,and they removed a lot things that made the character goofy which i liked.

2:51 Utterly perplexed that he can say this stuff about this version of venom, and yet the Spider-Man 3 version apparently gets a free pass.

@markharbath31X9

5 ай бұрын

Yeah that automatically makes his opinion invalid

@edwardomoran

5 ай бұрын

Ya’ll ain’t wrong about Eddie in Spider-Man 3, but did ya’ll not find Symbiote Tobey goofy and funny in that movie?

@troll13586

5 ай бұрын

Sh sh sh shhhhut up

@markharbath31X9

5 ай бұрын

@@troll13586 nnnnnn nooooo

I cant agree that fact ''Venom is goofy , fun dude'' , Venom has dark sense hummor I agree that but not too much goofy like Venom Movie's , he should be menacing, frightening, threatening... They showed us correctly about that at Marvel's Spider Man 2 , Major Wrong thing about Insomniac's Venom ; He is just acting like Hive Mind Monster , and he just care take over the world , no man that was completly wrong about Venom's Motivation , Venom never cared about conquer the world , He always only wanted take revenge from spiderman or prove himself as better protector than spiderman. Second wrong thing about Insomniac's Venom ; he has spider logo but he cant web swing.

Bro sandman 2017 show got like 10 minutes of screen time he doesn’t exist for any part of the show

I think Insomniac Venom gets away with not being Eddie because it would have felt so forced to just introduce him when there's so much going on. Also, I don't think Venom needed to be the more heroic version in this story because he was born out of rage and betrayal so to have him be a beast worked. Plus, Insomniac could probably expand on him later with the way it ended.

@nunogabriel646

5 ай бұрын

it wouldnt. They introduced otto in the first game just to make him the main villain and in this universe its official that eddie and peter already know eachother

@LC-Talks

5 ай бұрын

@@nunogabriel646they already set up Harry

@maxximusprime2970

5 ай бұрын

​@@nunogabriel646not only did they already set up Harry as Venom for the past two games, S-M 2 has TWO protagonists in Peter and Miles. They would need to build up Peter's AND Miles's respective plotlines and arcs, while dealing with their own supporting characters, Harry's storyline and his ties to the Symbiote, and needing to find a balance without having one overshadow the other. Throwing Eddie into the mix would be contrived and make the story fall apart.

@nunogabriel646

5 ай бұрын

not at all, it would be much easier to make harry a side character and work on his relationship with peter and his new friends and introduce harry as a new villain. Cause peters plotline in this game involves his friends. The first game had to develop octavius into a villain and did it much better than with harry. Mr. I dont think 1 more character would've been the thing to make the story fall apart. Specially cause it is already rushed and harry as venom doesnt make any sense. So having eddie as venom would open doors for the game to be bigger and have better development and eddie being venom would be much easier to explain/believe@@maxximusprime2970

Professor Arturo / Gimli played Kingpin???????

Drake Bell is easily my least favorite Spider-Man

No, that Mysterio level in Spider-Man 2 (2004) platform/swinging thing was the worst, and I hated it, I played the level like yesterday, and it's easily the like top 3 worst levels in the game, mostly because you lose speed very fast and I had to swing back to the first platforms in order to gain speed

In my opinion spider man 2 was a good Adaptation I really never respect venom and. I wanted him to be more like a villain and not a good ball and I feel like they did a good job making him look like a threat and an actual villain

Spider-Man fans see something different than what they’re used to and think it’s the worse thing ever

@dante_0962

2 ай бұрын

People having a different opinion than that means he automatically hates changes.

Worst adaptation: Peter Parker: Marvel's Avengers Miles Morales: The Spin Gwen Stacy: Bryce Dallas Howard Mary Jane: Kirsten Dunst May: Ultimate Spider Man cartoon Ben: 2017 cartoon Venom: Topher Grace Black Cat: 2017 cartoon Green Goblin: 2017 cartoon Doc Ock: Marvel Disk Wars Kingpin: Micheal Clarke Duncan Rhino: Paul Giamatti Carnage: Spider Man Unlimited Sandman: Marvel Ultimate Alliance Shocker: MCU Electro: 2017 cartoon Mysterio: MCU Lizard: 2017 cartoon Vulture: 2017 cartoon JJJ: Spider Man Unlimited

@markharbath31X9

5 ай бұрын

Agreed for the most part

i think the reason electro was so weird and changes to his backstory was cause of the james cameron 90s film so they wouldn't confuse people with continuity and when the cameron film got cancelled they didn't have much to work with in the 90s show

The thing with insomniacs venom is that it’s THEIR Venom. He’ll probably be more like Venom IF they give him to Eddie. But for now it’s just Venom on someone else which would make Venom different

@hsemicolonc

5 ай бұрын

The chance that they WON'T give Venom to Eddie in the planned Venom solo game Insomniac is making "if fans show interest" (translation: it's already in development & we're playing coy for an article) is comically low, heck they just may relegate Carnage to said spin-off & recreate Maximum Carnage but with Miles & Eddie instead of Peter, that'd be neat.

@dante_0962

2 ай бұрын

@@hsemicoloncwell Peter is supposed to be retired so it make since for those two to work together.

@batuhanbolat5656

4 күн бұрын

​@@dante_0962 He is not retired, he is just taking a break.

People seriously need to stop hating on Insomniac’s Venom. They have said this already, IT WOULD NOT HAVE MADE SENSE TO MAKE EDDIE VENOM IN THE STORY. Peter no longer works at the Bugle meaning he can’t screw up Eddie’s career (this is circumstantial so there’s a chance he still can). And Harry had been set up as Venom in the last two games so there was literally no going back. Stop hating on Harry, he’s a good Venom, just let it rest.

@worm9591

5 ай бұрын

Eddie or not he's still an all around poorly written character. Harry is maybe the worst Venom host we have ever seen.

@Boba_Feet92

5 ай бұрын

​@@worm9591Harry still had a better reason and carried a lot more emotional impact than Eddie with his "You got me fired so I'm mad"

@chandllerburse737

5 ай бұрын

Peter never screwed up eddies career at the bugle in the comics it was Spider Man catching a serial killer that Eddie was writing about. Eddie never worked at the bugle in the comics he worked at its competitor the globe. He hated SPIDER-MAN not Peter.

@chandllerburse737

5 ай бұрын

@@Boba_Feet92 Raimis version isnt the only version in the comics it was a multitude of things from Eddies career getting ruined by Spider Mans heroism to Eddie being disowned by his father, divorced by his wife, humiliated in public and at work. And getting cancer all at the same time basically. Do not quote raimis venom origin as if thats the only way they could’ve done it.

@TheDeathboy-bz3kw

5 ай бұрын

@@worm9591Ultimate Spider-man’s incel Venom would like a word.

My opinion Spider-Man: 2017 cartoon Miles: spidey and his amazing friends Venom: ultimate Spider-Man MJ: Kirsten Dunst Gwen: 90’s cartoon Aunt may: sally field Uncle ben: 2017 cartoon Harry Osborn: tasm 2 Flash: mcu Black cat: web of shadows Green goblin: Spider-Man unlimited Doc Ock: marvel disc wars Kingpin: trial of the Incredible Hulk Rhino: tasm 2 Carnage: ultimate Spider-Man Sandman: ultimate Spider-Man Kraven: spectacular Spider-Man Shocker: mcu Electro: Spider-Man unlimited Lizard: Marvel super heroes 3d grandmaster Mysterio: Spider-Man 2 movie game Vulture: 2017 cartoon JJ Jameson: Spider-Man unlimited

7:12 bro the new spiderman show doc ock when he’s a kid, i think bc he’s also a teacher, is so ass he’s gotta be the worst

I can explain Trial of the incredible hulk Kingpin. These were three tv specials set after the 70s hulk series, the producers forced Bill bixby (both played david banner but also director) to add a hero for a spin off in each film. Expect death of the incredible hulk both return and trial acted for a thor and daredevil Kingpin of course was the villain chosen for trial to match daredevil.

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

Wow the more you know! Thanks for the knowledge drop yo!

WOW what a supprise. venom has a different motivation because his host is not eddie brock but a guy whos main goal in life after nearly dying to a disease is to heal the world i am truely shocked that he is different then comic venom with a completly different motivation. also on a serious note he is goffy in the game sometimes given his short screentime. he acts tough and all that but then goes "last chance,last chance, join us this is your last chance" multiple times showing his sorta soft side of harry and the symbiote who wants peter back or when he "acts" like he need peter's help and all that then when peter arrives goes "thanks for coming pete" and his line when they got to the school right before he and peter are about to fight he says "this is where we became best friends" which is also kinda goffy but fits consedring harry is the host while yes he isnt like comic venom because he dosent have a lot of screentime like comic venom nor he will probably never appear in insomniac universe cuz bro is dead

@DoomSlayer-gj8qb

5 ай бұрын

Goffy? You mean goofy?

@MildChunkySalsa

5 ай бұрын

Ehh, I wished Venom got more screen time in Insomniac Spiderman2. I think that would have made the character a lot better imo. Honestly, I don’t think the game was cooking fr. Too many story lines and they didn’t even end well.

14:02 I feel you buddy 😂 that was sooo hard back then when I was younger, but I appreciate that version of Mysterio mostly because it was my introduction to this character

2:52 Ok respectfully disagreeing,insomniac venom is one of the best adaptations,venom by himself is goofy and fun,but the spiders see him as a big hulking monster,I know he’s unable to web swing and that’s ass,but still venom is a dark character too he’s eaten brains,killed uncle Ben in other universes,actually tried to kill Spider-Man’s girlfriend,assaulted eddies gf,got it on with a corpse,and did it with another corpse,and he’s also eaten hulk. Venom is a very fucked up piece of shit and they got that right in the games

@Awesomemusic19

5 ай бұрын

LMAO this was awful to read. Insomniac venom is garbage.

I think imsomniac venom is perfect for the story, and the fact they went their own way is cool. Not everything has to be comic accurate

I get that you said insomniac venom is the worst because of the easy clickbait (even though that iteration is in fact bad), Spider-Man 3’s venom is horrendous. You can hardly even classify it as venom. He doesn’t have the funny gags and doesn’t even have a good fight at the end, with it really being Eddie committing aliven’t. He doesn’t even talk, he’s such a boring character. Oh yeah, the og cartoon venom also sucks, but at least he talked…

Insomniac venom is most likely going to be redeemed in the venom game coming out 2025 that was revealed in the insomniac hack earlier this morning.

I'm gonna stand here and defend MCU flash by saying that if you go back to read the Ditko era, Flash there was also such a fucking dingus, making his Spider-man fan club and getting his ass owned every issue. He was less Peter's bully and more his petty rival classmate, so it's def more comic accurate than most adaptations already. Also, if you gonna adapt a bully teenager character in the modern age, having a wedgie-giving, lunch-money-stealing jock ain't the way to do it. that shit just doesn't exist anymore. So honestly, having Tony Revolini funny moments and being a cocky dumb preppy is a rich decition, but for what it is, it works.

I actually really like Venom in Spider-Man 2 but I definitely only enjoy him in the symbiote context, reflecting the worst versions of Peter, Harry, MJ, and spreading to other innocent people. The actual character of Venom himself is definitely not represented in this game basically at all which I understand being disappointing, but I'm okay with it in the context of the story

Kitty-Kraven in Spectecular Spiderman was really an disappointment. I get it, a guy in a furjacket and a machete doesn´t seem menacing compraed to a 9 foot tall guy in an unbreakable rhino suite or a guy that can shoot thunder. Still, they made him kinda menacing in the first encounter in the show with his skills and tricks. Why drop that and make him a furry? Spiderman 2 showed that he can be quite a menace. Can I add that I really didn´t understand this whole "Chamelon, Redskull and Electro" are a family none sense as a kid? All of them never appeared again after this episode and it was super confusing.

The thing about Black Cat though is she's infected with the symbiote in Web of Shadows. It's not her at that point.

What makes me kinda sad is TASM2 Green Goblin’s design ALMOST works for me. I like it being a mix of technology and mutation. If it looked more monstrous, it could have been awesome, but as is, it doesn’t look like a goblin, it looks like Harry got leprosy or something

The worst venom is definitely spider man 3 venom

i think insomniac Jameson sucks, he doesn't act like the sour guy but with good intentions, he doesn't like Spider-Man not because he thinks acting over the law is bad, he just don't like him and that's all Yeah my english it's kinda trash, sorry

Sure insomniac didn’t get Venom’s host and personality right but other than that they got everything else correct he’s a alien from another world they even got his design right,it’s like they took from 2018 Venom’s design and improved upon it yes he’s not the greatest adaptation of Venom but they could have done worse with Venom

It feels like Disney refuse to call Miles Spider-Man and gives him shitty names

@alpyki2588

5 ай бұрын

The problem is that Miles is often in the same universe as Peter, who is often Spider-Man first. Having two superheroes called Spider-Man could be confusing. If they really want to use Miles as *the* Spider-Man, they either need to get rid of Peter (no reader wants that), or send Miles to a dimension without a mainline Spider-Man (which Marvel seems reluctant to do). Getting rid of Peter would be poison to one of the few parts of Marvel Comics that people still care about, and keeping Spider-people separate would eliminate the Spider-verse, which has become popular due to the movies. Really they should've learned their lesson from the Spider-clone saga. Poor Ben Riley.

@DrPepperIsBae

5 ай бұрын

@@alpyki2588 We currently have couple people using the Flash name , and multiple Daredevils, idc if it's confusing They're both Spider-Man and Ben will eventually come back as the Scarlet Spider and so is Kaine

@alpyki2588

5 ай бұрын

@@DrPepperIsBae I only say could be, perhaps if this is one's first journey through comics and they picked up one issue expecting Miles and get Peter, or visa versa. Especially nowadays with the amount of varient covers, who exactly is on the front of the book isn't always who is actually inside the issue. Or how the big two often use one of their mainline comics to introduce heroes who then get their own runs.

I think as his own character Insomniac Venom is fine. He’s written more like a natural disaster caused by human failure than a rounded character with motivations. I would like to see him get a carved out spot in that universe but it is what it is. I kind of view it as a better handled version of the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon venom mixed with Web of Shadows venom which has the same problems as insomniac venom except without the built in build up to the monster venom. My personal worst venom is probably that Ultimate Spiderman cartoon venom. Unlimited venom was pretty bad but at least he had a really great episode with Eddy in that cartoon.

Calling insomniac venom one of the worst venoms when Spider-Man 3 exist is crazy

@Itsnoahscott

4 ай бұрын

For real he was a fucking tank machine in the game.

Spiderman Unlimited had a lot of bad adaptations I see lol. I never watched that cartoon and I see I’ve made the right choice.

@spidermania

2 ай бұрын

It wasnt bad but it definitely wasnt accurate LOL

@akilbrazier1421

2 ай бұрын

@@spidermania Well then maybe I will give it a watch if I run out of things to watch lol

he is 6'4 btw

hard disagree about insomniac’s take on venom. it made sense for the story they were trying to tell. and given what they said, they were explaining about it being a different take on the character. I think a lot of people should have seen it coming. what really would have pissed me off if they had tried to pull a Arkham Knight with venom. if you know you know, this is coming from a Eddie Brock fan so.

Idk. I understand why you don't like venom from insomniacs spider-man. But I feel like that version makes sense given the person he's bonded to. He wasn't just a mindless monster, it was more so that the mindset of wanting to heal the world merged with venom's selfishness made him more like a a parasite that wanted to reproduce and infect as many people as possible, which isn't my favourite thing either, I'll always prefer the goofy superpowered bully he is in most of his other adaptations. But I'd still give them some points for trying something new with him. But I do feel like it would've been better suited to some other symbiote or something.

he said EVERY spider - man character where is everyone else?

Big shoutout to Amazing Spiderman's video game and having Scorpion and Rhino just be mute genetic hyrbrids, gotta be my least favorite.

I don't think you get how insomniac's venom works. Harry was his host for 2 years, whem venom makes everyone symbiotes is because he thinks he helps them, the goal of harry and peter was to heal the world, with the symbiote harry is healthy, so he wants to heal the world, he gives that "gift" to everyone thinking he does good and he don't want to hurt peter too muchbecause he knows he is his friend and want him to help him

I dont think you can say you don't like the insomniac venom and then say the rami mj is fine. Your entitled to your opinion of course.

@brycekennedy5935

5 ай бұрын

He said Raimi's MJ is the worse adaptation lol

I really like insomniacs venom. I think people just hate insomniac for doing something else. I mean miles Morales said it himself "i'mma do my own thing". the only thing that they did wrong was not given enough time for brother to cook. I think venom as Harry fits perfectly. venom and Spider-Man the only thing that the Host has for Spider-Man or Peter is hatred. which is good and all but I think Peter and venom's host being best friends since childhood. add a lot more emotion to it which is what venom and Peter need emotion and having it being Harry captures the emotion perfectly. and the way that Harry and Peter work together to get the symbiote off. got tears in my eyes that was just so magnificent.

You missed a few Scorpion: Goes to amazing spiderman game. This scorpion was not a suited human and instead a genetically altered man that was completely animalistic. Could have worked but he just shows up twice, gets beaten up and adds nothing to the story. Hes a filler boss Hobgoblin: Marvel's spiderman. Hobgoblins character as harry osborn is a cool change and could be interesting, but he was completely changed to be a sidekick. Like..no..and that mask was god awful Hammerhead: Again, Marvels spiderman. This one was not the mob boss we know and a complete buffoon. Not once did fhis guy be a genuine threat or have the cunning hammerhead is supposed to have. Morbius: The movie. Enough said Chameleon: Amazing Spiderman 2 game. Hes disguised only as one guy the entire game and is revealed in a post credit scene. His inclusion made no sense and his assignment to impersonate Donald Menkin is never explained why.

@arinhossain2100

5 ай бұрын

Scorpion worst version is Spider Verse Insomniac Hammerhead is one of the best. It should have been either 2017 cartoon or Spectacular Spider Man

@spidermania

5 ай бұрын

So I tried to use the same list for the best adaptations video I did But you’re right I def left off scorpion and hobgoblin. Damn

@puffpuffpassmako

5 ай бұрын

​@@arinhossain2100i meant the show for hammerhead, i should have clarified. And that scorpion was so bad i legit forgot he even existed

@arinhossain2100

5 ай бұрын

@@puffpuffpassmako make sense

Insomniac venom is a epic version it don’t have to always be Eddie and it would be bad for all the build up and then it was just Eddie

Insomniac Venom is the most comic accurate by far man(Except for the Harry instead of Eddie part). You GOTTA tell me what you're smoking so I can stay well tf away from it lmfao

@chandllerburse737

5 ай бұрын

Beyond the design its not that accurate Venom never seeks to take over the world or heal it. I guess its closer to Mac Gargans man eater Venom but even then we dont see him being constantly evil either.

@walterandrews4985

5 ай бұрын

Nah Venom is a hater not Peter's yandere friend. Nowhere near comic Venom in personality

@itsjustjayy7390

5 ай бұрын

@@walterandrews4985 Read the 90s Symbiote arc then come back. You'll see what I'm talking about. He *is* a yandere lmao

Worst adaptation for venom for me was Phineas and Ferb Mission Marvel

You know that the venom verse is set in the same universe as tasm

I kind of get your point about Venom in insomniac not being goofy, but I don’t understand why he should be goofy. Venom was goofy because he appeared in early Spiderman media which itself was usually goofy for kids. Every Spiderman villain was goofy at some point, but most of them evolved to actually be villains you’re supposed to take seriously. If green goblin can go from being goofy as hell in the 90s to being a psychopath in the live action movies and being seen as cool, why does Venom have to stay in the box of being a goofy character to laugh at. His origin story wasn’t really at all funny enough to warrant him bring goofy in the first place because he was had a more tragic/serious origin. Venom felt abandoned by Spiderman and Eddie felt sabotaged by Spiderman. Their bond at first is entirely based around an unhealthy vendetta against spider man along with a blind wrath towards people that get in the way of their goals. That doesn’t sound like a goofy character. At least not to me. I respect your view of Venom regardless though. Goofy Venom is hilarious. Is it at all a weird or uncommon opinion that I like the cartoon design that gives him lips?

@xeibei4804

5 ай бұрын

Venom appeared at the peak of edgy abd dark comics in the 90s. Nothing for really for kids back then. Everything was ained towards edgy teenagers that wanted darker and cooler stories, hence the name "Lethal Protector". Him being goofy is a personality trait

@chandllerburse737

5 ай бұрын

venom wasnt even goofy when he first appeared he became goofy when he was an anti hero and its because his character was never meant to be a complete monster

@Princess-xv8dd

5 ай бұрын

@@chandllerburse737 ngl I knew he first appeared during the edgy days of comics, but when I meant "goofy in his first appearance" I meant his first appearance on TV. My bad. I don't think Venom not being a complete monster is a good excuse for Marvel to make goofy part of his character though. He can be a serious character with no humor and still be written as an genuinely compelling anti hero.

Theres a difference between an adaptation and a different version of a character insomniac venom is their own version of that character and imo his portrayal and motivations work well in the context of the insomniac story

Worst JJ is defo the 70s live action show, shout out to Nicholas Hammond, a great Spiderman/Peter, forgotten to time

Kraven the Hunter being part animal in The Spectacular Spider-Man series it's supposed to be a composite of Kraven and Puma. At least this is my opinion. There's a lot of characters that become composite. Mary Jane and Gwen seem to have a lot of each other's characteristics. In Spider-Man 3 Eddie Brock seems to be a Cletus Kasady/Carnage that also has Lance Barron character traits. Gwen Stacy also has Felicia Hardy, Deborah Whitman, and Amy Powell traits. Some of this stuff is obvious on the surface and some of it really takes deeper analysis.

bro made it WAY too obvious that he didn't play Spider-Man 2

@Manuelaiello204

5 ай бұрын

The hell are you talking about? I played Spider-Man 2 and he's right Insomniac Venom is the worst he's just a monster who's evil for literally no reason

@ZachZone

5 ай бұрын

@@Manuelaiello204 maybe try playing the game with sound and the monitor turned on 💀

@Manuelaiello204

5 ай бұрын

@@ZachZonebe fr right now 💀 The Symbiote is just straight up an evil monster using both peter and Harry for what he wants and at one point instead of just finding an host now he wants to take over earth because??? The Symbiote shouldn't be evil it's should be s creature who wants to create a bond but it enhances the host's negative emotions

@ZachZone

5 ай бұрын

@@Manuelaiello204 whatever you say, lil bro 👍 it’s almost your bed time, you should probably go to bed soon!

@xeibei4804

5 ай бұрын

​@@ZachZoneyou got cooked and ratioed log off your acc now