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These Churchfront Tech Tours, are my new “Netflix & Chill”… well… maybe not the “chill” 🤣, but definitely my “Netflix”!!! #Christian + #Techie
@ardbegthequestion
2 жыл бұрын
And this exvangelcal’s (and ex mega-church prod staffer) secret nostalgia channel.
@prettysimplemusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@ardbegthequestion bwahahaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@magezielijah5764
2 жыл бұрын
Ya man even if it's 2 hours I can watch
Great video. It would be great to see small church tech tours as well.
Bro this guy right here is a genius... I love the fact that he focuses on savings and not buying the latest and greatest even though their tech is very high end but one major, major, major take away for me in this video is that converter box that you can load your own LUT to it... he don't know this but he just saved me THOUSANDS of dollars with our plan to switching all the cameras to the same brand WOW... Now we can allocate that money to upgrading other things!!!! Praise JESUS!!!!!!!!!
@GaricsPeter
2 жыл бұрын
We have those converters. Keep in mind that enabling the LUT adds latency.
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
@@GaricsPeter The latency it produces is extremely negligible in our environment, but you are correct!
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
Miguel, if you need to, you can modify and color match in your preferred video editing software (we use Adobe Premiere) and export the LUT from there to load onto the box. That's how we accomplished color matching our drum cam to our other cameras which are Blackmagic Pocket Cinema's. Record test footage flat and then color match to a cam's footage you want to match.
@MiguelReyes-sx1vs
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielferentzy527 I edit and color grade in Davinci thats what I use to create the LUTs for our pocket 4K.. Thank you for the help 🙏🏽
@josua2517
2 жыл бұрын
@Miguel Reyers BM microconverters do lots too and are cheaper.
That frequency hiss drove me nuts
Check out using a midi trigger in Ableton running into your waves server to fire the snapshots for changing tuning
Wow, amazing setup. He kept saying simple, looks far far above simple and low budget. I imagine the total replacement cost would be huge. Do appreciate the tour.
I’m amazed, they are running Soundgrid and Dante protocols. They have a strong network. 😊
@TC3Church
2 жыл бұрын
We'd love for you to elaborate on this comment? If we're doing something wrong we'd appreciate the help. Thanks so much!
@colbyhodges
2 жыл бұрын
@@TC3Church What motor controls are being used on the manned cameras?
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
@@colbyhodges PDMovie Remote Live 3 (PDLFZV2)
@AaronJCourtney
2 жыл бұрын
@@TC3Church nothing wrong at all. We do the same thing. That's the entire point of the Hear Tech WSG Dante Bridge that was created back in 2018.
"This is thousands of dollars cheaper than a Nord" *points to two 15" macbook pros, a midi controller, and VST software valued at over $5,000
@mrbkeyz_
2 жыл бұрын
Haha thisss
@connorkeeley6811
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! That's a great point! Just to shed some light on the set-up. The Macbook that runs Ableton is the MD's personal computer, and the MacBook running MainStage and Keyscapes is an old 2015 that has been recycled through the staff and repurposed for our keys rig. Thanks for the comment!
@carltontriplett4947
2 жыл бұрын
@@connorkeeley6811 thanks for the context!!
@prettysimplemusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@connorkeeley6811 wussup bro!!! Are you the keys player????
@guitardude6464
2 жыл бұрын
@@connorkeeley6811 one MacBook. One round
Great church, great video! 😎
Thanks Jake .. I love tech tours keep that its so helpful
This is really good touring video;)
Wish I knew y’all were in town! Andy is a cool guy. They’re always willing to share what they do with other churches in the area. :)
FANTASTIC video guys! Thank you for all the great ideas!
Jesus image church tech tour? they have an amazing mix and cam setup
Wow, Andy Curtis really is a star
@andycurtis1010
2 жыл бұрын
CARLLLLL!
@KyleThurmanMusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@andycurtis1010 🤣 its time for me to come hear those 12 dual 18s!
Please, no one take any tips on how to build racks from looking at the ones In this video
Thanks for this, got so many ideas from this!
9:40 if you are going to run with two screws in a unit, please put them in the bottom locations. Leverage.
@BenSalzmann
2 жыл бұрын
typical practice is top corner/bottom opposite corner if you only have 2.
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenSalzmann maybe for a 1U
Keyscape is actually around $400 ($379), and Omnisphere is over $500 with tax. But still far less expensive than a hardware keyboard, and just as incredible sounding!
@prettysimplemusic
2 жыл бұрын
He said MainStage was $100 😳😳😳 Only $39 and yup, Nord sounds don’t stand a chance compared to Omnisphere + Keyscape.
Thank you Jake for this ✨✨✨ am blown away
10:30 when you went around the back, that was pretty rough! it looks like a temporary stage box placement but still, that rats nest is scary! I would HATE to have to figure out which lines are going to the different inputs and outputs.
@prettysimplemusic
2 жыл бұрын
We’re twins!!! I was thinking the EXACT same thing, but… well… I’m not trying to point out the negative. Cleanliness = Godliness 🤣🤣🤣
@jpruhu7662
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Clean runs are key. But a lot of great solutions overall.
Simplesmente sensacional! Um dia as Igrejas no Brasil terá algo assim. 2 Pro X Midas? OMG!!!!!!
@juanlucas2001
2 жыл бұрын
Acredito que nunca hahaha até mesmo as maiores igrejas do Brasil não tem nem a metade da estrutura!
sovereign grace tech tour plzzzzzz
i will say this regarding the Shure SLX D stuff when I was hunting new wireless I was turned to the New Senneiser EW-D, they claimed the are better than the SLX D and cheaper (atleast for me in NZ) it is a stripped down from there pro line of the digital 6000 and 8000 range so far I love the EWD for my acoustic and 945 capsuled mic.
What focus and zoom control system is that?
How are you setting up the hand controls on that camera in the back? Looks like a Pdmovie motor, for focus, but what hand units are connected to it?
@peterfast6451
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know that, too.
For the Midas DL231. How is having independent gain control with this unit different than an M32 configured with dedicated ( but separate) buses for livestream etc? Thanks
That snare drum mic placement is scary!
what's wrong with the focus, is it a lumix camera?
With expensive technology, comes great responsibility. Unity looks amazing, but the pricing model seems to be a minefield 😓. I'm still very tempted to try it at some point.
Those flight cases holding the amplifiers are overloaded and warping. It's driving me nuts
some Soundcraft mixers allow separate control over the gain, from multiple consoles, with a single preamp. As long as FOH or whoever has the actual gain control isn't clipping things, it works just as well as dual pre-amps.
@HunterShawMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Digital trim is very different than dual headamp controls, especially with a colorful pre like MIDAS PRO.
This was great, but please tell them to air dust their stage box!
Please share Any links or contacts for JAAH Audio - Company
I dont know if TC3 gotta read this comment but the Sennheiser EW-D series are pretty sick for touring with the bluetooth scan apps (and if needed, it has better latency than SLX-D). Only complain so far is the AF stage is pretty noisy but could be reduced by lowering the AF Output level. OTOH if you are into Workbench then SLXD is cool as it is the cheapest Shure offering with Workbench support afaik.
Actually hackintosh’s are illegal. It goes against the EULA and therefore it is not licensed for use on non-Apple hardware and that is problematic for a church to be doing that. You can’t purchase MacOS, so that means you have stolen the software. Sorry, but this is a terrible example to set.
Hackintosh Computers scare me (and I'm a computer guy). Setting it up correctly requires a super nerd. When you have issues, you won't know if it's a legit software issue or something related to the hacked OS. If you update your OS, you might not be able to boot back up. Every update has to be handled very carefully. If you have issues you need a super nerd to figure them out. You save money but you don't save time.
@silan2335
2 жыл бұрын
If you have someone in church used to it, then you don't habe much problems. Also nowadays there are many, many good guides online But with M1 the time of Hackintosh will end Over all I hope more and more software will get releases on Linux, since the only reliability of many MacOS-Updates for me has been, that they often generate new problems
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
No issues. Have to do a lot of research but once you get it figured out they work just like a real Mac. That bring said, there’s exactly no reason to build one after M1 processor.
@jgerhart19
2 жыл бұрын
Good thing Dan is a super nerd
@TimothyFish
2 жыл бұрын
That's only because Apple is stupid. But what can you do? Once you add an Apple product, you have to have the Apple ecosystem to make it work.
Good day church front, can you visit our local church here in the Philippines, i just thought that it may interest to see the gears of a 180sqm Church. Thank you and Godbless
35:43 Saving my spot
what the size of the screen on the stage
That line array was not custom built for any. Any church can get the same rig. Just so you know!!!! It a nice rig for not alot of money
This is awesome, always learning. Loved the broadcast and video rigs.
Cheap is relative in this video 😂. Or the Pastor was given the wrong prices. What an awesome setup.
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
That’s why you don’t let your worship pastor do a tech tour.
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
??
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielferentzy527 Let the worship pastor be the worship pastor. And it’s very evident that his knowledge is very limited and mostly hearsay. He seems to be the jack of all trades at this church, which is fine, but the case he makes for the way they do things is uncompelling, as he is unable to articulate with any level of confidence, the specific technological advantages of one piece of gear over another. Even an amateur knows that modern digital consoles all operate at 96k. It’s like buzzword he adopted and now uses. When you couple that with his “live room” assertion, the whole 96k discussion goes out the window. You can hardly hear the difference between 44.1 and 96, never mind in a terrible acoustical environment. Tbh, you guys should share a link to Luke Henderson’s video with him. Might learn something.
Your daily reminder that Kanye West is the greatest artist restin or alive. Also, cool tech tour!
These are cool videos. Would be awesome to see the product list (I know its a lot of work).. Love it.
Which Software does the PD use for organizing the service?
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
Planning Center Services!
For the keyboard rig, what type of stands are they using for their Macs?
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
Quik Lok Music Stand (LPH-004)
@jordancaldwell1086
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielferentzy527 Thanks!
@guitardude6464
2 жыл бұрын
I think…The Stand by Hillsong United
@jordancaldwell1086
2 жыл бұрын
@@guitardude6464 that’s not a comment KZread deserves but it needs.
i wanne learn more about the projectors and laptops i use a laptop i wanne use a mac book but i dont have the money
Were they running the right fluid in the z350?Looked pretty cooked.
What material is their flooring?
Anyone know what brand of slider that was on the drums camera?
what kind of they use stage floor?
Never ever have I seen a snare mic’d like that😢
What headsets are you using for the Unity? I am starting the 14 day free trial and trying to figure out what to use to keep background noise to a minimum.
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
We use the headsets Unity Intercom sells, single and double-sided depending on the position. Our roaming camera volunteers use their own AirPods, or equivalent wireless headphone.
@StanMan21089
Жыл бұрын
@@danielferentzy527 can you also show what volume and ducking settings you’re using to help keep the 90+ decibel background noise to a minimum?
Hi guys! Does anyone know what motorized sliders they use on the FOH camera and the camera behind the drums?
@andycurtis10
2 жыл бұрын
Its a basic GVM motorized slider. 31 inch. They are set to auto scroll.
what is the name of the app that he use to make the intercom?
@jakebytes602
2 жыл бұрын
It's unity intercom.
@jamestucker3661
Жыл бұрын
Does a phone get loud enough to compete with a PA. I would love to try this.
Feeling that this guy is a little “out of touch” with some things. “It’s not illegal to make hackintosh. Apple makes that available to do.” No. People have found ways around all the red tape, hence “hack” in the name. I’d love for him to explain his understanding of “96k” audio. 😂
how does slider auto working
Anyone know what there stage is what makes it so shiny?
@jordanhardison6686
2 жыл бұрын
I believe it is a wood stage with an epoxy top.
I didn't see the bass speakers
@jahavl3067
Жыл бұрын
There are ten dual 18" JLA218's in the front of the stage.
Where did mans find Keyscape for $125? 😂
what wireless video transmission system does TC3 Church use for their roaming cameras?
@danielferentzy527
2 жыл бұрын
Cinegears Ghost-Eye Wireless HDMI & SDI 150M. Low latency. Got a lot of use out of this model in this application.
Can you please ask them for the specs on their Hackintosh?
1:55 autofocus is better
Autofocus had other ideas for this tour 😂
@Churchfront
2 жыл бұрын
Truth
I wish Keycape was $120! LOL try $399!
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
Keyscape is overrated. If you want a true realistic piano sound, get your a Kawai EX for $99. Or if all you’re doing is worship and are going for that overcompressed sound, get Sampltank. Even their cheapest Yamaha sampled pianos sounds better than keyscape
@andycurtis10
2 жыл бұрын
@@aeiplanner appreciate your opinion! We work with those other sounds, too. Keyscapes does a lot more than just a "piano sound". It's incredibly versatile. From both a modification with in the vst standpoint, as well as having/blending a variety of different sounds. We also use Keyscapes with in all of our recording projects. Thanks!
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
@@andycurtis10 I'm aware. I feel like a lot of people buy Keyscape/Omnisphere with the expectation that they will be a turnkey solution. Not true!!! I found that despite really sexy marketing, you still have to tweak the sounds to get the shape you want/need. This is even more true for live environment. So by the time you're done with tweaking the sound to match the room, you might as well use sounds that come free with the $30 MainStage. All that aside, the most important piece of advice I'd have for you guys is get the sound you want dialed in, effects and all, and auto-sample it right back into MainStage. That way you don't risk any system overloads while running Keyscape along a bunch of other soft instruments.
That high pitch noise in the video is hurting my ears.
Custom PA boxes? really??
@jordanhardison6686
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, these JLA210's were made specifically for TC3 and are only at TC3.
@jamestucker3661
Жыл бұрын
@jordan - what do they do for tech support in 7 years? Will parts be available?
@jcnash02
6 ай бұрын
@@jamestucker3661The manufacturer’s office is not far away, so they’ll probably call the owner and get him over there.
abledun.
The dumbest thing here is that he’s teamviewing a $1000 hackintosh from a couple of real $1200-1800 macbook pros with $30 dongles for Ethernet. He could have easily used some old chrome book with built in Ethernet to run teamviewer.
@TimothyFish
2 жыл бұрын
Well, if they were were running Windows instead of macOS, they could use NDI and they wouldn't have to pay for the TeamViewer license, but maybe they had a Macbook that they weren't using, so they went that route instead of buying something new.
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimothyFish they built a hackintosh. I don’t think they pay for a commercial version of teamviewer. Frugal is the name of the game here!
@jordanhardison6686
2 жыл бұрын
They are not using team viewer. They are using Mac screen share. Also, the Mac is not a single purpose mac. It's a brilliant case of using tools you already have to get the job done reliably.
@aeiplanner
2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanhardison6686 1. Never ever use a single computer to deploy mission critical applications. E.g. if you’re running tracks, ONLY arum tracks. Actually, have a backup running identical tracks in case the first one gets the beach ball. Also, he clearly stated they’re “teamviewing”
@jordanhardison6686
2 жыл бұрын
@@aeiplanner I find it reasonable to have a computer dedicated to tracks and then a multi purpose / personally owned computer to mac screen share in to the main computer running the tracks. Especially when someone else is present at the Ableton computer and can take over. In a perfect world, sure back up everything.
I find it hilarious when huge churches say they’re trying really hard to be budget friendly and my whole churches revamp at a new location cost the same as JUST their console. 😅🥲