People are not annoyed by the fact that they might be rusty or that they might just be trying to put on a show as social media influencers. They are annoyed by their pompous arrogance and incompetence, while acting as though they are an authority on the topic when they are clearly in over their heads. Anyone with a trained eye who watches this is going to question their credentials after watching the way they zeroed their weapon. When you are a part of a community, it's easy to tell when someone speaks your language and understands what you mean or is just a pretender who is trying to look the part. This is something that applies across all fields whether its fitness, gaming, business, or in this case the rifle marksmanship community. These guys came off as very novice shooters, who maybe have some experience with shooting, but limited long distance precision shooting. I'm not gonna unsult them by saying they acted like guys who've watched a lot of movies and played too much call of duty, but they were definitely in that ballpark. Plus they were shooting at targets 300-500 yards out with high end bolt action rifles with scopes. That's not even considered long range. They teach shooting out to 500 yards using iron sights in basic training, these distances should be child's play.

@Cole-Baker

Жыл бұрын

And what is your credentials?

@georgesinclair1393

Жыл бұрын

When I was in we trained 308 with iron sights out to 600 yards

@209er2

Жыл бұрын

300 yards in basic training

@209er2

Жыл бұрын

At least that's what it is in the army which this guy was in, not sure what marines do. Depending on your unit in the army you could shoot further, I believe rangers shot to 500 yards but that's not in basic training

@SaltNBattery

Жыл бұрын

It isn't the first time Lunkers has been an absolutely abysmal spotter for another shooter. I don't doubt Nick's ability, he's public enough at this point that so many people would've outed him as a liar at this point. Lunkers on the other hand, I don't understand it. Everything you said is 100% right, this is basic stuff that should be like reflexive to him but it doesn't seem to be. It's 100% true that military service alone doesn't automatically make anyone a good shooter but these guys aren't just your average 11Bs, they would've memorized all this stuff in sniper school. That said, our military today relies heavily on top of the line ultra expensive gear, stuff the average hobby shooter isn't going to spend a couple months rent buying. Without all that tech, some of them are pretty much mediocre at best, even though they shouldn't be.

Did bro just break down a video of 2 dudes having fun and critique it as if they were tryna prove something is WILD. What a clown 🤡 Let them live. He's already did what he needed to do.

@fishlife1013

Күн бұрын

He is calling this guy's bullshit that's all if you actually learn to shoot those skills don't leave you if they do you never learned them to begin with

Best Sniper I know is Bob Lee Swagger, he was deserted while on a mission and his spotter died. But he was able to take down the heli that killed him.

@ilovefrenchtoast5489

2 жыл бұрын

😂 😂

@Dean341

2 жыл бұрын

Bob lee is fake a character name used for a movie the story if fictional Carlos Hathcock how ever is real a Vietnam Marine NCO that is Non Commissioned Officer who has 93 confirmed kills which the Bob lee characteris inspired from. For impactshooting to like the Bob lee comment just shows how little he actually knows

@ictrlaltdeleteu

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dean341 uh duh its called a joke.

@Dean341

2 жыл бұрын

@@ictrlaltdeleteu aaah so funny

@Donttreadonanyone

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dean341 look up….it went over your head

The big thing you’re missing here is that the world of professional/competitive marksmen is completely different than combat marksmen/snipers…. I’m a gunsmith in Texas and have regularly worked with guys who place in king of the two mile as well as some combat snipers ….. in my experience the competitive guys tend to outshoot and out run the combat guys at that type of shooting…. The biggest strengths of the combat sniper is the ability to make calls and adjustments on the fly in extremely stressful situations….. most spotter sniper pairs develop personal jargon that allows them to communicate quickly while only having to imply information without always having to be explicit…. Just throwing in a new spotter or a new shooter into the mix won’t get the same results ….. Lunkers isn’t a great spotter….. but Nick is a great shooter ….. but like I said combat snipers are a different world from competitive guys ….. I’d rather have the competitive guy on a hunt….. but I’d rather have the combat sniper with me if the things I’m shooting are shooting back ……

@capetownoke2780

2 жыл бұрын

I hear what you are saying but they were not making calls and adjustments on the fly, they changed their measurements and took way too many rounds to get to Zero. It was just a bad video, im sure Nik is alot better than that.

@wilfdarr

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@wilfdarr

2 жыл бұрын

@@capetownoke2780 They were just having fun on a Saturday morning. I think people take this video way too seriously.

@capetownoke2780

2 жыл бұрын

@@wilfdarr Maybe, but at their "Level" you expect a little more professionalism. If you read the comments people really though thats the way you do it. Just because someone has been in the US military and seen combat doesnt mean they are above reproach! I love having fun on a Saturday with guns, we still keep it solid though.

@wilfdarr

2 жыл бұрын

@@capetownoke2780 I'm willing to cut them some slack: both these young men have seen "some shit": the fact that they're as well adjusted as they are is no small miracle. I'm not going to demand they be "professional" on a Saturday morning, in a video made for people's entertainment.

I watched this guy “review” a budget rifle a couple years back and called BS on his knowledge and ability almost immediately. He seemed angry and rushed throughout the video. He completely shit in the rifle for not performing on the same level as rifles he (may or may not) have owned or that he has used prior. It was absolutely unprofessional, foul mouthed and impatient. It was as if he was offended to have to shoot and discuss an inexpensive, budget rifle. I think it was a 6.5 Creedmoor in a Ruger American if memory serves. Honestly, his primary motivation seemed to be that he wanted his audience to know that he is an alpha. Literally NOTHING I’ve seen from my his guy has been quality content, nor has he provided insightful, useful information, only “I’m the man, I do dope things, and I have cool sh$t.” Ugh.

@arttrumbo9496

2 жыл бұрын

He's a "content creator". He produces nothing of substance. He used to put out good fishing videos, but that is long in the past.

@Tarumarugan

2 жыл бұрын

The ruger American is a good gun too

@cavemanlovesmoke4394

2 жыл бұрын

it's not THAT serious brother 😂

@magnumcipher4971

2 жыл бұрын

@@cavemanlovesmoke4394 pretending to be something you’re not, lying to and influencing young or uneducated guys on subject they have no business speaking on is pretty serious, hence this video calling them out. Bro.

@nunyabusin

Ай бұрын

Had one for years, shot out to over 1000 yards with little problem. Less than they had in this video. Dude is a clown for sure ​@@Tarumarugan

Former soldier here, non SF. They're a disorganised mess. Your run-of-the-mill grunt knows how to provide more meaningful corrections: "Come right two points of aim," "Splash one metre below target," etc. Give the shooter a reference relative to the point of aim and they can adjust their zero (or shot placement) accordingly. This is par for the course for Lunker's videos, lots of screwing around, little (or no) preparation and a long runtime. At least the swearing is military grade.

@gavinD1219

2 жыл бұрын

Lunkers was force recon not even SOF my theory is nick former ranger was just being humble and not showing him up on his own channel after he let him promote his new book. Recon guys are known for telling everyone they are snipers cuz they went to a school once and never used their long guns

@cottonmouth71

2 жыл бұрын

@@gavinD1219 Its hard to watch ANY of the Lunker dudes videos ...he comes off as REALLY douchey IMO in the few videos Ive watched on his channel !

@thomassellers3813

2 жыл бұрын

@@gavinD1219 pretty sure he was Army. Said in one of the few videos I watched of his he was an Army sniper and used the M24 but it’s been a while and I could be wrong.

@philsmeal468

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomassellers3813 I believe you are correct and that’s why he bought a M24

@berryreading4809

2 жыл бұрын

I think lunkers attended a basic designated marksman school, not a classic "rear sniper program", from what I understand he was somehow attached to a group that contained SOF members and he carried a SCAR 17 mostly... I think Lunkers is purposefully misrepresenting his actual military record in order for social media influence, The Nick guy seems to not be misrepresenting his service, although I haven't looked into the "most deadly" claims, Nick seems genuine and like he was pulled into the spotlight by his "friends" wanting to use his credentials and service record to boost their own greed and fame... Just my opinion. Lunkers ex-wife can attest to his character as well...

Saw this video a while ago. I can tell you this doesn't speak to the true shooting ability or training of a SOF sniper. I have to believe they were clowning around. Unfortunately, they look very inadequate. I won't demean their service, but their video should have never been posted, especially as any type of tutorial.

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you, I know some gentlemen that use to be snipers in their day that shoot incredibly well. They are also humble and down to earth and I have never heard them bragging about how many people they have killed.

@philsmeal468

2 жыл бұрын

He has a video about cheap vs custom rifles and he lost me on that one. Really made me question his gun knowledge

@Prometheus7272

2 жыл бұрын

An inadequate spotter makes it pretty difficult for the shooter especially if there relaying the wrong information.

@zugang7248

2 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Irving is the same guy who had a confirmed 33 kills in less than 4 months just saying.

@b2hibry

2 жыл бұрын

@@zugang7248 Nobody was taking anything away from his service or kills in Helmand Province.

Former US Army 11B, and yes this does look like a mess. I think it could be a combination of factors. When you are shooting in the military while in garrison it is very controlled(At least in my experience). Also, you will hit, and hit consisentently or you will get guidance and training until you do. While deployed, experiences can vary hugely. I deployed twice to Iraq and only fired my weapon in anger on one occasion when our COP was attacked my first tour. I know just based off of these guys background they experienced ALOT more combat than I did so I have alot of respect for them based off of that. Now that they are out, they are both social media influencers, content creators, authors, etc....They might just not really care much for shooting anymore. They still do, to make videos and for fun, but they may not take it anyone near as serious as they once had to. When I was in I was a great shot with an M4(not trying to toot my own horn but I was). I was a dismount, a rifleman in a mechanized infantry company/combined arms brigade. I took it very serious and I gave 100% percent effort. I got out in 2012, I shoot my AR everynow and then for fun, but not with the laser like focus I use to have. Also, both of them being social media influencers, I think they may have had there focus on the camera(making a video that will get views) and not on performing the task at hand effectively.

@calebgovind5009

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100% and thank u for ur service

@Loyal69

2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis and you're on point

@micahdunleavy9227

2 жыл бұрын

Idk if you have solid fundamentals you typically don’t lose that..

@djw5415

2 жыл бұрын

🇺🇸

@leftfordead8336

2 жыл бұрын

@@micahdunleavy9227 You dont use it you lose it. Applies to everything in life

As a former military guy I can say that these are two guys, that share a similar background, getting together to shoot some good old 308 down range. Both have their own traumas but share a lot of the same traumas. This is simply therapy and messing around. To dissect one’s shooting ability that actually used these skills in combat is a bit elementary. This would be equivalent to a KZread basketball player critiquing some of the greatest to ever play the game based on a shoot around. If you’re doing this for views, you win. You got my view. End of the day, this is some weekend warrior content from a guy that’s never served or used any of their shooting knowledge in any practical application outside of hunting. I understand your goal is not to disrespect their service, but you’re comparing practical shooting to precision shooting. These guys don’t train like you train, hence why there’s a difference in technique. The “lingo” you speak of is not for KZread lol. This is how they learn to communicate. You’re really on your high horse with this video. They took a personal moment as two former snipers and shared it with the world. You’re using that moment for notoriety. You shoot for fun. They shot for country.

@Dejacoa

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I would also add that he seemed very butthurt when he stated the number of followers Lunkers has. This stinks of jealousy. This video was terrible to watch once.

@CleanWhiteEvoX

2 жыл бұрын

👏 👏 👏

@qbdad675

2 жыл бұрын

You said it all Sir. Saved me a lot if type time. Well done

@levigarrett5614

2 жыл бұрын

eff you and your "serving" b.s. I refuse to be apart of the thank you for your service cult. they weren't drafted. they got a check.

@christoph9587

2 жыл бұрын

You nailed it!!!! This video is so cringe I can't stand it. It speaks jeolousy!!!! I watched the original and thought how awesome. Two of America's finest enjoying a day out shooting. That was it. And this guy just shreds them for it!

Man, I couldn't' finish that [original] video much less stomach a full reaction to it. Thanks for the video Pieter, your breakdown made it worthwhile. EDIT: let us know when you're ever back in Texas :)

@The_Outdoor_Dad

2 жыл бұрын

We have to have Pieter and Henry go head to head in a practical Accuracy!!

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

that sounds awesome!

@Element_punk

2 жыл бұрын

Can we a have a colab with Pieter doing the whole 9 hole range?

@reyniermaritz6563

2 жыл бұрын

@@IMPACTSHOOTING dude a colab with you and 9 hole review would be flippen epic

@DarkMatter946

2 жыл бұрын

Peter Henry and Josh all doing a speedway run on 1 bolt and 1 gas gun would be legit

I remember when this video came out and how it was an instant meme throughout the PRS community. Their shooting was absolutely atrocious and the people who defended them was even more cringy

"I dont know why he's swearing so much" - In the US Army especially among the Infantry, swearing is a normal part of everyday life. Thats just how it is. So when we are among others we can identify with under a shared experience, we cuss a lot. It doesnt mean anything. We dont talk like this to everybody.

@wilfdarr

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, it's just a different dialect of American English.

@lordtark6736

2 жыл бұрын

This channel is a joke

@iHeartEyeLadies

29 күн бұрын

Not every American feels the need to curse. I curse more than I mean to sometimes but you’re honestly a loser if you actually think it’s a self-identity to swear 😂 I assume you’re 13 years old

Nick Irving’s interview with Shawn Ryan provides context and insight to the majority of your comments. His role in the military and what you do aren’t necessarily relevant to anything other than pulling triggers.

@IMPACTSHOOTING

Ай бұрын

Thank goodness I didn’t pretent to be a sniper then 😅

@2K9s

25 күн бұрын

@@IMPACTSHOOTING Marksman, sharpshooter, sniper all have their own definitions that get tossed around. Did you watch the interview? It would probably clear up your confusion.

@MF-Rell

19 күн бұрын

He was a sniper.

Can you please make a video of sighting in a scope at 300 and see how many shots it takes you??

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

You mean this video? Special Ops Sniper vs Pro Shooter kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4thy5WHmrzQnKw.html

@fubar1217

2 жыл бұрын

@@IMPACTSHOOTING You know, I thought I had seen this already. LOL

@pietermalan5450

2 жыл бұрын

Lol already done bud

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

@@pietermalan5450 who dis?

@pietermalan5450

2 жыл бұрын

@@IMPACTSHOOTING net n naamgenoot van pretoria piet 👍 keep up the good work

Nick has 33 confirmed kills and more unconfirmed. So regardless of how he's shooting in a KZread video I would definitely say he got it done when it counted.

@ahandgrenade3640

2 жыл бұрын

Could just be out of practice.

@iBleedStarsAndBars

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminAdams23 💯

@coolbeans6148

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahandgrenade3640 that's what it is. "You dont use it, you lose it" Wasn't a sniper but I was a DM. No way i could shoot as well as i did years ago. Most combat arms guys get out they stop training completely.

@f308gtb1977

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminAdams23 killing people overseas is not “doing something for this country,” and killing more people isn’t doing more.

@berryreading4809

2 жыл бұрын

Lunkers wasn't a sniper either he was a DM, taking a ten day course and happening to be on a patrol or two that contained attached SOF members or vice versa makes him saying "I was a sniper in the Army, with special operations" factual accurate, but also is purposefully worded to be misleading and misrepresent his service record in order for attention and clout on social media... Also I feel he and other supposed "friends" drug Nick into the spotlight to hopefully gain attention based on Nick's service and accomplishments, as he does not seem to enjoy the spotlight or attention, rather was drug into it in exchange for the promise of future financial security... Pretty disgusting behavior with Nick being nothing more than a hopeful cash cow for them, while accidentally putting himself at possible risk of collateral damage to his own reputation in the process 😠

Honestly the fact that the dude was dropping bodies overseas is good enough for me. You shoot for a sport, idk if you have any military or LE experience but it’s a big difference taking a shot under duress in the field vs playing a game where you won’t get targeted and shot back at. You critique because you’re a sportsman and good at this one craft, this guy is NOT a sportsman obviously, and has played around a lot on demolition ranch so it’s pretty well established that he doesn’t take himself too seriously. There a lot of guys who in theory shoot better than someone in an infantry unit, but in a war scenario I’d have to choose the infantrymen as im not as confident that a sportsman will share the same resolve under pressure. Lastly it’s easy to become great at shooting if that’s all you do, military personnel have numerous other duties to accomplish besides sitting on a range for 8 hrs a day popping reloads on AR500.

@TheNightrider88

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, watching the video when he can't hit shit and even can't zero his rifle makes me think that he never dropped any body, except by accident and just full of bullshit.

@Dexter-nw2fe

2 жыл бұрын

This doesnt really prove anything. If one person has the fundamentals and one doesnt, who would rather shoot under stress

@dantenicholson9744

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dexter-nw2fe Nick came in clutch on deployments as he needed to be. Easy to shoot a target when its not shooting back at you with NOT JUST AKs and RPKs but RPGs too. Nick said it in his book he wasn't the world's greatest sniper, but he gained his "deadliness" tag because he was in a target rich environment. He has nothing to prove. He saved many lives during his deployments. Long range shooting is a perishable skill and when Nick was in his prime (i.e. deployment ready) he was able to do what he needed to. This video seemed personal.

@Marineone-bu1yj

2 жыл бұрын

@@dantenicholson9744 I agree!! I came across this video because I have been very interested in getting into the long range shooting sport. But the attitudes of the so called “expert shooters” in the comment section as well as the presenter, is a bit off putting. I didn’t know who Irving was before this, but I went and subscribed to his channel. I may not learn to become “expert long distance shooter” from watching his content, but I can appreciate a person who have been through tough situations and can still have fun in life.

I spent 10 years in the Marines and I was a POG, NGL that was cringeworthy for me to watch. 15 rounds to get on target at 300 yards. I will definitely blame a lot of it on lack of meaningful communication and lack of fundamentals. There was a lot of back and forth large adjustments. That being said, I'm sure he was on point when he needed to be and when he was constantly training. Shooting accurately is a perishable skill.

@copo2835

2 жыл бұрын

Every other video I've seen of Nick shooting, he has been on point. I wonder of he was trying to avoid showing Lunker up on his own channel. Although, he never really seems to have issues when he is on Demolition Ranch, either

@joshuabeck6008

2 жыл бұрын

I've never been in the military and find this video cringeworthy.

@agonzalez8924

2 жыл бұрын

When I went to basic training in 1999, they showed us how to hit targets out to 500 yards using iron sights on the m-16a2 service rifle. Hitting at 500 yards with a scoped high end precision bolt action rifle, using a .308 cartridge should be a chip shot.

@Major_nutt

6 ай бұрын

​@@copo2835Nick was never a sniper, he was a designated marksman he doesn't really know what he's doing, he tells the internet he was a sniper bc it gets him game and money

@allenlindsey1175

5 ай бұрын

Marine....this guy is a fake He has said so many thing that only a 10 year old would believe and he says them as fact. The only reason he gets over is because people WANT to believe. Somebody needs to call Don Shipley on this fraud. Gnna ramble just a little. We shot at 500 yards open sights and the 300 yard of our course involved the kneeling....every single one of us would have went UNQUALIFIED if we shot like this. 0311/8152 Semper Fi

I’m an avid shooter and I’m very proficient. I got into long range shooting and got addicted to the sport, to then bring my new skill set to the field where it increased the range I was willing/capable of taking game. I had a pretty big fight with my dad last year after he started rattling rounds off at an elk at 800 yards while demanding I help give calls to walk him on target. After giving him a couple, I told him he needed to stop. Hence the fight. I know his competency, and I imagine now, we looked like Pieter and “the reaper” in the field. One of us knew what we were doing but the other didn’t. What made matters worse was I practiced daily for months leading up to the hunt with my newly built 338 EDGE to shoot across a specific canyon I knew I’d likely see elk in. This same day, I made a 1 shot kill on a 6x6 bull at 1007 yds, so my dad assumed if I could do that, 800 for him should be easy? Pretty toxic logic. This video was as hard to watch as that situation was to be in.

@nunyabusin

Ай бұрын

Id argue that you and your dad had one more person that knew what they were doing compared to these two

Been shooting for 37 years and hunting for 20 years. Saw their vid some time ago and remember thinking "wtf are they doing? That's so complicated and utterly false zeroing practice".

When I first watched Lunkers video I thought it was just 2 guys out having a good time shooting. It sucks if there are individuals out there that believe that's how long it actually takes to properly zero your set up however, I don't believe this video showed their true abilities to seriously get a rifle ready. I would love to see you do a video with Nic or Rob and give them a fair showing. Thanks for all of the excellent videos you put out!

@copo2835

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't watched Lunker's video, but I've seen several of Nick's, as well as ines he has done with Matt om Demolition Ranch, and he never seems to have these issues. Maybe they were drunk

@ravissary79

2 жыл бұрын

Lunkers is largely known for goofing around...its not a serious shooting channel. The 3rd degree being given to this is absurd.

@jp-ty1vd

2 жыл бұрын

I would EMBARRASSED to even film this clusterfuck. much less post it.

@jasonmorgan27

2 жыл бұрын

@@ravissary79 Bro, this guy was a sniper? he is a joke. There is no wind and he couldn't hit shit

@joshua_J

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmorgan27 dude you have no f-ing idea what you are talking about.. You need to do some serious research on reaper and then come back and apologize for your ignorant comment.

I’m glad you did this video, I stopped watching Lunkers years ago cuz he would pimp out his sniper background and kill my expectations on his knowledge and skills. He used to be decently modest many years ago but he just annoys the heck out of me

@billycole852

2 жыл бұрын

Googan baits also suck really bad

@capetownoke2780

2 жыл бұрын

I used to love his stuff, but he got too much moola and became a bit of a dick. Havent watched him in years. Jon B is still the same!

I love watching Mark and Sam after work from Australia. They do extreme long range and Sam does a wonderful job calling impacts "half target high, one target right." I have tried to improve my skills to the point of being able to sight in my rifle in 2 or 3 shots then confirm drops at distances. I am by no means a professional shooter, but I agree this is really poor communication.

@colb9916

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. They live not far from me. ( Im a West Aussie, so "not far" can be couple miles to half a days drive. lol. Theyre about 400 kms south . Not that far ) A great shooter spotter team. Simple , easy to read comunication. And omg. Mark sends some insane distance hits out with his various rifles on that 24inch square target they use. Dunno if theyve managed that 5000 yrds yet, but theyre trying.

@jonathandotson5880

Жыл бұрын

YES! Mark and Sam after work are the best! I watch all of their videos. His information videos are other worldly (obviously in a good way). Anybody that hasn’t seen them PLEASE go check them out. They work extremely hard on their videos and are very under viewed and under appreciated. They even make their OWN precision rife shooting components. They are top notch. As you can see I very much appreciate their knowledge and work on their videos.

@RonaldHelgesen

11 ай бұрын

I was not impressed at all

@coffeemuncher01

6 ай бұрын

​@@RonaldHelgesen Who gives af?

The man hit his targets in combat with his life on the line, that’s all I need to know. The amount of disrespect in these comments is unbelievable.

@delontay87

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly...how many of these other ppl can say the same?

@r2020E

2 жыл бұрын

He is not discrediting Nick's service in the military; the video was just objectively poor shooting. It may have been due to a combination of them not actually trying, the spotter communicating information poorly, Nick being a bit rusty, etc but nonetheless it was poor shooting.

@dez4647

2 жыл бұрын

@@r2020E My problem is making the video in the first place. Putting his pic in the thumbnail and implying he’s a troll. As well as these worthless duffle bags in the comments talking smack from behind a keyboard. I think it’s problematic and disrespectful to call him out like that over one video. Nick is a decorated sniper who performed in combat. Sure his military peers might criticize him, but not in this way. Because they know what he’s done and understand what he’s been through and sacrificed.

@dez4647

2 жыл бұрын

@SHAK3 N Because you say so. Got it.

@RedLeo-pf9yo

5 ай бұрын

U fell for the scam. 😂

Definitely some questions. I watched this one when it originally came out and had some of the same reactions. The scope appears to be a Vortex Diamondback "Tactical" 4-12x40(the only one with the fiber optic on the windage turret) which had a MOA reticle.

@nunyabusin

Ай бұрын

Had the same exact scope on a Ruger American predator in 6.5 creedmoor for a few years. Such a nice scope that made walking the shot in so easy. Shot to over 1000 yards with it with less issue than these dudes.

I watched this a WHILE ago and it was just atrocious to watch. They jumble corrections, mix up MOA and MILs, change positions. Makes no sense to anyone that knows what they’re doing. These guys are not representative of real special ops snipers… Check out Phil and Caylen at modern day sniper.. I’ll be honest, if I can’t zero a rifle in 5 or 6 shots I get embarrassed. Usually my bore sight puts me a few inches from center at 100. If they had just zeroed on paper then started the video it would have hidden a lot of their incompetence. Also they’re way too excited for 300 yards… I can hit 300 yards with irons on my M16a4 clone EASILY. These guys are essentially larping

@GrAnAdMaN3

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure but I think this is a reupload or something I've seen this reaktion video last year or something and if you scroll through the comments you can see that there are comments from a year ago even though the "upload date" is today 😅

@judodavid1

2 жыл бұрын

Not good

@Lovell93

2 жыл бұрын

Nick is an actual veteran, sniper in the military, maybe Marines? Not 100% sure on the branch. He has a decent kill amount. But yeah, this video is hard to watch. I can only assume that he's been out of the military for a while and hasn't done much of this. That's what I want to say, anyway lol.

@billbee235

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Lovell93 yeah, I know all about Nick. Not knocking his military service at all. He's a bad dude, but this video he released with LunkersTV was a poor display of skill and a bit much on the ego part. They could be a little more humble. Shooting is still just shooting regardless of military accolades. That's why a lot of these guys stay out of the competition world, because they would get smoked by every day people if the task was just shooting. Guys like Nick are highly trained in tactics, fieldcraft, and putting bullets on bad guys that get within their comfort zone - things I personally know nothing about.. but I can zero a rifle in 5 shots and if I'm prone I probably won't miss my second shot - and I'm just some random guy that likes to shoot a lot

I went to the range with a vet one time and he couldn't hit shit. He kept blaming it one the fact that my ar did not have an m203 launcher so holding the rifle without felt weird. I humored him but it was pathetic

@IamLaR1

2 жыл бұрын

If you didn't make him feel less, then you made him feel more and my man, that is the most honorable thing you could have done. Long distance High 5...for allowing a man to keep his dignity.

@jdizzle5083

2 жыл бұрын

You gotta think combat shooting is different the shooting recreationally

@smyers820gm

2 жыл бұрын

What’s even more pathetic is you coming on here and trashing some mystery vet you claim to have shot rifles with. I think it’s funny that you “humored” him face to face. Meaning you didn’t run your mouth because he probably would’ve extracted some of your teeth. You’re a textbook perfect example of how people come online and feel free to say anything rude condescending and disrespectful without the fear of getting punched in the mouth.

@jdizzle5083

2 жыл бұрын

@@smyers820gm let the hero brag on KZread about how he’s a better shooter then military guys

@smyers820gm

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdizzle5083 I know I should have just kept my mouth shut and moved on to another video but I couldn’t help it. People that say things like that just trigger me. Most of the time I keep myself in check but every once in a while. . . 😂😂😂😂

Personally shot with Nick. I have one of his guns that was made early by Arsenal democracy, the owner a prior seal team member, owned. It was an Ar15 with a shilen barrel. The guy can flat out shoot. Idgaf about nothing you guys say.

As a precision rifle enthusiast, I’m glad you made this video.

@michag4337

2 жыл бұрын

In fairness to Lunkers and Nick, precision shooting =/= sniping. Waaaaay more to sniping than just shooting. Shooting is a key part, but you have tools to help you over come that (plus daily training that they haven't had in almost 2 decades for lunkers, idk how long for nick) like they aren't those guys any more. I use to ruck 15-20 miles fairly easily, now I'd struggle and some recreational hiker could easily destroy me out there, doesn't make him a better infantryman that I was just means I'm far removed from my glory days and he's current. I'm not saying this justifies the complete shit show, but just keep in mind these guys haven't been billy badass in a while, but when they needed to be they did, in fact, get it done.

As a follow up: Pieter, you wondered why the shooter kept asking for holdover in MILS when the spotter kept giving them in MOA. In the US military we dealt almost exclusively in MILS. Either the scope reticle was in MILS (don't know if you could ever identify which scope they were using) or the shooter, being a former military shooter, is only comfortable/thinks in terms of MILS regardless of the equipment he is using. I speculate the spotter was using a ballistic calculator or spotting scope set for MOA and he doesn't know how to either change the settings to MILS or he can't make that changeover calculation in his head (which most any seasoned long range shooter can do fairly easily.) There is a tremendous amount of pressure in the US to put combat veterans on a pedestal. As a veteran myself, in a family of retired veterans, I feel ok saying DUDE BROS like these and the guys at Black Rifle Coffee and the like get a free pass on acting like jackasses on social media. In fact, they are rewarded for it. As a passionate long range shooter dedicated to furthering my shooting capabilities, I would much rather watch videos like yours where I can learn more about shooting and about new calibers and equipment, than watch these peacocks strut around for 20 minutes. Thanks for your videos and keep up the good work. R Conn - citizenconn, Houston, TX

@davidsalsedo

2 жыл бұрын

Both idiots knew nothing about either. Jargon from a few movies and books. If you were trained at all you would see clearly that they had no sense of the values expressed in either value.

@TJ-we7id

2 жыл бұрын

I respect veterans for having the balls to get off the couch and risk their ass, BUT they do NOT defend our Constitutional rights, nor defend the American people. Modern wars are fought for the multinational corporations and bankers that seek to enslave us.

@TJ-we7id

2 жыл бұрын

Black Rifle Commie Co.

@thomasjames8246

2 жыл бұрын

I myself am a combat disabled vet and I agree 1000x with what you just said.

@MF-Rell

2 жыл бұрын

Nick was Nicknamed the Reaper, the should tell you enough right there.

I had watched this vid a few weeks ago and was very unimpressed, i thought he was full of crap, i am ex military and know special ops guys are a lot less full of themselves. I turned it off half way through it.

@Chris09978

3 жыл бұрын

Lunkers is an actual army sniper combat veteran and the other guy who is sniping is a 75th ranger combat veteran sniper there is a video on lunkers tv to shut up most people where lunkers shoots by himself and no spotter

@Chris09978

2 жыл бұрын

@@6n518 I don’t know what you are talking about

@RolsRoyce3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris09978 hmmmm

@vorbo01

2 жыл бұрын

@@6n518 idk about lunkers, but Irving definitely served. He's pretty well known

My goodness. All I'm going to say here, is that the dude making this video seems like a decent kid, but very young, and while I may be wrong here, I don't believe he has ever had to examine and successfully overcome all the variables involved in examining intelligence on an area, deciding your shooting location and ingress, knowing the consequences if you fuck up, then laying perfectly still at times, while being eaten by ants, mosquitos, mites and God knows what, while trying to ignore the dysentery cramps and your own smell, acquiring your target, killing another human being to protect your brothers and then being basically interrogated afterward, aa if you were under investigation for murder. These guys are out having a good time, in a very LOW STAKES- HIGH FUN environment. Cut them some slack.

@gingerhaggis8679

2 жыл бұрын

Well said bro, I served in the Parachute regiment as a DM in the fire team and they two talk a lot like the marines I met in Iraq and rangers in Afghan

@iidentifyaskingoftheuniver1928

2 жыл бұрын

White guy Mat, was also a DM and Nick (black dude) was a Marine sniper with 33 confirmed kills

@evey0259

2 жыл бұрын

@@iidentifyaskingoftheuniver1928 wrong, they both were US Army Snipers, Irving just happens have been a Ranger with 3rd Bat. Horrendous shooting all around, though.

@iidentifyaskingoftheuniver1928

2 жыл бұрын

@@evey0259 ahh my bad thanks for clear up but yeah it was not pretty too watch

@valqueenofValhalla

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Im just glad you took the time to be respectful yet ask the questions people aren't asking about some of these influencers

not sure if you have seen any of Ryan Cleckner’s videos but there’s a guy who knows long range shooting. His no nonsense hit the target real world application mentality is what got me interested and one of the reasons I’ve enjoyed your channel. If you two did a colab, that would be AWESOME!

@MrNpc81

2 жыл бұрын

His book is really good too!

@kodez9667

2 жыл бұрын

Ryan Cleckner is awesome

@johnfrank1101

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!! I bought it. Read it twice(which is a significant accomplishment for me) and I keep it in the gun case of my rifle along with the journal he suggested to keep; where I am happy to share that I never collected air samples of the days I ever shot to pointlessly store with my journal.😂

@Cautionary_Tale_Harris

2 жыл бұрын

He got me started, too. I e-mail him every once in a while asking when the Advanced book is coming out.

@brandonm6052

2 жыл бұрын

Ryan did a collab with John Lovell war poet on shooting some longer distance also

Great jobs Pete, it’s channels like your’s that actually teach and provide us entertainment that make shooting enjoyable. Remember that anyone can put out content on KZread, but it doesn’t make it true or worth watching.

Nicholas was definitely getting annoyed with Rob as Rob was never really in a spotter role when enlisted and was giving him horrible calls. I think the reason nicholas wasn’t correcting his own shots until the end was because as a sniper you rely on your spotter to give you the correct calls. We also have 2 different classes of snipers here, there’s Rob who was a basic sniper who would go out with SEAL teams sometimes and then there’s Nicholas Irving who was Master Sniper of his platoon, a team leader, and was a tier 2 operator who had tons of training and would go out with tier one dudes. Not to discredit this video but there’s plenty of videos with great sniper lingo of Nicholas. He has one on his channel named Reaper 33 on his channel that was created a few years back. My dad served as a 1st Battalion Ranger Sniper and as a sniper MILS are engraved into your brain, all your scopes and equations use mils instead of MOA. So it makes sense that when Nicholas is annoyed and just wanting to hit the target and get half decent shots off that he’ll go back to the basics and ask Rob for corrections in the units Rob learned in. At the end of the day it was just a couple of guys plinking around and there’s multiple factors that goes into this video. However I think the video was horrible in terms of Rob giving accurate corrections and the corrections made by Nicholas as he probably confused himself going back and forth between units of measurment.

@Major_nutt

6 ай бұрын

Nicholas was never a sniper, and never had a spotter, he was a designated marksman he shot between 200 and 600 yards, he just says he was a sniper on the internet for clout

It’s funny that precision shooters shit on this guy. I’m a radio operator and highly doubt HAM guys could effectively operate how I do my job successfully. Different worlds. Regardless of the basics.

Legends have built up around special operations and snipers. In some cases, like the US Army Rangers, "sniper" is part of an actual MOS, not just DM or designated marksman. I have read two of Sgt Irving's books. I have also read and watch podcasts of Ryan Cleckner, whom I could wholeheartedly recommend. Cleckner was a sniper team leader in the 1st Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment. He explicitly states in his book on long range shooting that he is not and never was a sharpshooter. That would be something along the lines of the channel host, here, being a competitor in precision shooting. Cleckner was, in his own words, a tactical shooter. Not trying to pierce ear lobes at a mile. Trying, however, to put 220 grains stopping energy in an standard target out to 600 yards. Average range of combat is less than 800 yards and many is the shot that is 300 yards or less. I agree, this video might be for show. Since they are no longer serving in an active unit, they might not desire to hold to a standard phrasing of communication but I agree, you need to have agreed on terms. And stay within the measuring system you want to use. And Irving also mentions in his books with some of his stories of combat, you are trying to make the most of the situation. And so, you would think, on a calm day in Texas with no one shooting or lobbing ordnance at you, better shots can be made. Or at least sooner. I don't know, it just seemed like they were having fun. Most people who I have known who served had salty language. Except for my mother, who did not serve. But she could curse enough to make a sailor blush.

@710vet3

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, comp shooting vs combat has some similarities yet far more differences. The simple fact that he made it home should prove he isn’t a joke. I also doubt he’s trying to be the most technical with his call outs when he’s out joking with his friends.

@MF-Rell

2 жыл бұрын

@@710vet3 They're both snipers.

@710vet3

2 жыл бұрын

@@MF-Rell what!!? Yea scrap what, I said this guy won.

@djl5634

2 жыл бұрын

Well the real misconception is the military works with what it has. If u shoot relatively well ur doing better than most green recruits. Not everyone is a marksman sniper assassin. It's really more about tactics that actual marksmanship and knowing ur limitations. But yes I noticed he couldn't shoot that well in another video.

@ronws2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@djl5634 That is something I also learned. The standard expected of green recruits is 4 MOA. This translates into being able to hit the enemy at 100 yards, or CQB. Can the new guy hit a 18 inch wide by 20 in tall target from house to house? While moving, possibly off hand. Guys who shoot better than that can become DM. Others specifically want the work of long range combat. Well, being a sniper is not actually about splitting the X at 1,000 yards which can certainly be the goal of various competitions. A big part of the sniper activity is getting into closer positions and you do that by being a sneaky bastard. Less distance equals greater accuracy. According to Cleckner, and others, such as Milton, a retired SEAL sniper and instructor, average range of engagement was less than 800 yards. Sometimes, quite a bit less than that. And the object was not the x ring. The object was to place 220 grains in center of mass of an 18x20 in target. For example, Cleckner would use a .300 Win Mag. Dial elevation from DOPE and hold left or right edge of target into the wind. And this is while an enemy is actively seeking you and shooting at you and trying to kill you. Same which can be said for Sgt. Nicholas "The Reaper" Irving, 3rd Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment. For a number of tours. Do these guys talk like PRS dudes? Probably not. Do the talk the way they did in service? Maybe, maybe not. Often is a the case where shooter and spotter develop their own lingo. No rule says that you cannot. And are you going to tell these guys no? Just remember, they are retired paid killers. It was the job to end lives per orders. And do so quickly, and efficiently, and don't take all day. And I think that is going to be just different than maybe an F-Class match with a 16 pound rifle designed to sit on the ground on a hill under a shade poking holes in paper. I could be wrong. I am not a veteran, certainly not a competitive shooter.

Also, for some reason, the US military at some point (probably when Nick was active duty) did mix mils and MOA, I kid you not. So Nick may actually have the most practice using an MOA scope but making adjustments in mils 🤷‍♂️

@MF-Rell

2 жыл бұрын

Back on the day the reticle might be in Moa and Adjustments in Mils

@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760

2 жыл бұрын

it was a fixed 10x Leupold with a MIL dot reticle and MOA turrets. that was pretty standard until about 20 years ago

@Booneboarder

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 Leupold M3A, that's what was on my M24. We got the PVS10 day and night scope, but I hated it and never used it.

@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760

2 жыл бұрын

@@Booneboarder that's right. the Marines had the oval MIL dots and you guys had the round dots, correct? Wasn't it the same scope otherwise?

@wilfdarr

2 жыл бұрын

Until 2012, from 2000 IIRC. Big army at its finest!

I had basic training in the Philippines Navy, just watching you, I can’t imagine your frustrations. Thanks for your videos, I am new in building precision rifles for hunting and I am learning from your videos. I am buying some MDT products now. Thanks to you.

@IMPACTSHOOTING

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to this awesome sport!!!

I know little to nothing about shooting. I'm a vet but I was an electrician and didn't get into guns til recently. But when I first came across "The Reaper" I was super impressed by his story. Started watching alot of his interviews and he definitely comes off as somebody who embellishes the hell out of a story. My first red flag was him on Arian Foster's podcast and him saying he flirted with some girl. And when her boyfriend found out, like a whole neighborhood worth of dudes wanted to fight him about it. It was weird. And I gave you just as much details as he did. And he swore it happened 😒... A few more videos and I realized that him capping seemed like a trend. His lies seem obvious tho, at least. And if he's telling the truth the other 80% of the time it seems believable. For what it's worth

@jamesonbolen9058

11 ай бұрын

Well he has a confirmed 33 kills being one of the most dangerous combat Snipers in modern day...

@2pumps1swirl82

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesonbolen9058who ALSO somehow thinks a near miss with a 50 will rip an arm off 😒and has the gall to even tell people this on camera But oh he was joking. Or was he?

They seem like they are just guessing for the most part. I would really love to see your opinion on (MarkandSam after work) Some of their videos are surprising what they manage to hit targets with at long range.

@MjS-zb6jr

2 жыл бұрын

They have great videos and a similar feel to your videos.

@danialridzuan1830

2 жыл бұрын

Mee too I would love too see him react to them since they are way better than lurkers and that sniper

@leitch100

2 жыл бұрын

Mark and Sam AW are great! 💯

@Allen338LM

2 жыл бұрын

Mark and Sam are awesome educational and entertaining videos and very grounded folks hard working and you can see there progression through the years with there videos and they sell great parts

@erick7862

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a really good channel. Caution: rabbit hole ⚠️

This was clearly an issue of having a spotter not giving the right info to Nick. Also, Rob was the trigger puller overseas and obviously didn’t keep up on his spotter ability since he basically does mostly fishing now.

@christopherfreeman3095

2 жыл бұрын

This is clearly two people that can’t zero a rifle. The splash of a .308win at 300 yards is easily evident in the PIP frame on my tiny cell phone. Through the glass is a cake walk. A scout sniper should not be missing static targets within 700 yards with a .308. Especially the Fed GMM loading that he was using at the end of the vid. I can understand being reliant on the spotter for range and atmospherics, but known ranges are simple with any decent training (like a 2 day precision rifle course). He should be center plate by 3rd shot, and all hits after that from prone off a bag.

@MF-Rell

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfreeman3095 oh really

@vincec.202

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfreeman3095 You're absolutely correct, and I remember watching this video and thinking, "Is this a joke? Are they high???" Lunkers has always rubbed me in a wrong way as being overly cocky. His Ukraine War coverage is super cringe. You'd think he believes he's Norman Schwarzkopf. I'm pretty sure he wasn't a military strategist in Afghanistan. In fact I'm positive of it, but you wouldn't know it from watching him talk about predictions of BOTH Ukraine's and Russia's entire military game plans. He's always been overly cocky and unless you're Nick, you're not half the rifle shot he is. He just assumes how great he is out of the gate compared to everyone. Now that they're all teaming up with Demo-Ranch and Kentucky Ballistics, you get a chance to see them on multiple weapons platforms and it's rare Lunkers shows up. Nick also looks uncomfortable with most weapons outside of a bolt gun and an AR variant. I can't dispute Nick having a large number of confirmed kills in combat, and while that's admirable, it doesn't make you the best marksman in the world. The guys by the truck in this video are thinking exactly what we are: Wow...this is embarrassing. It's like 2 monkeys f***ing a football. I got into shooting at a very young age. I've competed in 3 gun, intermediate, and large caliber long range shooting competitions and get togethers all over Kentucky, my home state of West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee, and there's some Country Boys out here that'll embarrass you with a 7mm mag deer rifle. We've pushed out past 1000 with .408, 6.5, .338, and some obscure loads and have pulled off some pretty great shots in conditions that were far from optimal, and I'd never make a video this pretentious. This, and his military commander role-play, have shown me all I needed to see. Not to sound like lunkers, but at 300, all I need is my 15" AR with an eotech and a magnifier to get hits like this. I'm far from the only one that can do it too.

@Barnes-ml9wg

2 жыл бұрын

Bro it doesn't take a spotter to zero a rifle at 300 yards 😂 ask me how I know youve never shot long range

@savageguy25

2 жыл бұрын

@@Barnes-ml9wg 300 isn’t long range, 600 is mid range still.

Thank you. I remember watching this, and wondering why it was taking so many shots. I'm far from a pro at long distance shooting. I don't even know if I could consider myself amateur, but this zeroing was ridiculous. I think I remember them blaming the rifle at one point. They seem very flustered & anxious. They definitely don't seem excited to be shooting. I don't know what they were thinking. Very odd.

@perchowski3021

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the answer to "you don't know what they were thinking" is cocaine. 😄. I've been around people on cocaine many times in my life and when watching this video back when lunkers posted it, the first thought that came to my mind was that these guys seem like they're on coke.

I’ve seen similar results over the last 20 years. I believe the biggest reason is they will get training to become a sniper go through the courses and once graduated their kinda left to their own devices and yes I understand the senior snipers will give tutelage but with that being said I’ve belonged to civilian pistol and rifle clubs and the tutelage and training never ends your always being pushed to do better and learn more. I’ve seen guys at the F class matches that are civilians only , never served and just kill it. What I do think is the military trained are trained to put lead down range without much hesitation 1st on target with volume usually wins the fight but accurate fire is the ultimate game changer. I always enjoy having current or former military and Leo’s at the range they can teach us civilians stuff we’ve never even dreamed of and sometimes our long distance tips help them if applicable to their situation. But yeah when they go back and forth on the adjustments Mil’s To Moa is aggravating. Having a great spotter that both the shooter and spotter understand the terminology is crucial as this video clearly shows. I’ve done just as bad if not worse having a bad spotter, which is an art in itself.

Just found this video. I have many family and friends who served and none of the special forces members act like these clowns. They don't brag about killing people. They don't glorify the numbers they have. They don't make videos for million plus people to pick apart their shortcomings. Thank you for your efforts to share quality information and real lessons on safety and efficiency when handling firearms. I would love for you to show some carbine (16-18") barreled AR platform distance shooting. Like 5.56/.223 or .300blk, etc. Kept up the good stuff.

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

300BLK incoming

@matteocesa9017

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I watched a couple of their videos some time ago, entertaing at first, but anything military related they talk about started to sound fishy really quick, more so when you see them actually shoot

@MF-Rell

2 жыл бұрын

All these videos of Seals speaking on their kills but you somehow missed it. People die in war buddy, that's the nature of the business.

@tokebak4291

Ай бұрын

Most military guys are the most LOUD mouth. This is just facts... They love talking about how good they are... Love to use the word civilians in family gathering... Bunch of lil boys acting like men.

I stopped watching a lot of shooting videos several years ago for this exact reason. After competing in f class then progressing into elr shooting about 10 years ago, the more I learnt, the more frustrating it is to watch 90% of the so called experts. I would of been upset about wasting ammo sighting in if my bore sight was that bad....Anyway Pete, keep doing your thing and try not get side tracked by the clowns that are in abundance.

@jiml4987

2 жыл бұрын

It's very similar reading comments when people actually type out learnt and ignore the autocorrect recommendation 🙄 learned.

@nonyabiz3874

2 жыл бұрын

@@jiml4987 and you just turned yourself into the "autocorrect" lolol

@jiml4987

2 жыл бұрын

One day humans will be known as the new fossil fuel alternative.

I remember watching the original video to this and thinking a lot of what you're mentioning. Most of the time my thoughts were, "were they really snipers in the military? Man they suck, and I only shoot occasionally and can get on target better".

@retingo7940

2 жыл бұрын

They have over 20 confirmed kills. So no, they don't suck.

@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330

2 жыл бұрын

I guess that no one can have a bad day especially when they’re fucking around making a video.

@GunGuy258

2 жыл бұрын

How many confirmed kills do you have in REAL LIFE COMBAT? Not just paper or steel targets? Has air support ever been called in on you if you miss your target? No..... Then shut up.

@frigglebiscuit7484

2 жыл бұрын

@@GunGuy258 im pretty sure the taliban didnt have air support :) the war on terror was a cakewalk compared to real war with truely armed and trained people.

@GunGuy258

2 жыл бұрын

@@frigglebiscuit7484 how many wars did you serve in? And how many tours?

Good. Sir. I watched this video and also the one that they compared a "budget" rifle to a "gucci" rifle. Rob had a hard time with the budget but was hitting target with his rifle. I was turned off in even attempting to do long range. I kept researching and found you. Thank you for your videos. Very informative.. I hope takenbetter videos of the range and download it to my channel. Take care and a lot of love and respect to you

"Not bad from 300 from the knee " I was not a sniper and I've done that before with significantly less attempts, with a red dot. Veteran

I spent half a day yesterday with Charlie Melton, seal Sniper retired and now precision instructor. We sighted a CZ 457 .22 at 50 yards until I was placing bullets exactly where I wanted them. Then the wind picked up, gusting 16+ mph, and we decided to go for an IPSC at 289 yards. With .22’s, we were consistently hitting on that target using StrelokPro. Now we struggled with those gusts some, but we’re talking within a mil and still consistently hit until we were going for headshots :). I honestly believe they had a bad day of shooting but were just having fun goofing around, which honestly is what lunker’s channel mostly is. I don’t think Nick shot like this in service 😛. I have a video I posted where I included misses, and I’ve literally had death threats on that video. But it’s also my most watched video currently (which sucks but also happens to be monetized so I’m not complaining). As shooters, I would say it’s more important to just do the right thing and support others, lifting them as we can. We all make mistakes and sometimes even post it to KZread; I just hope my mistakes don’t get used to describe my whole meaning :).

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

My goodness I don't think Nick shot like this during his service either. But damn son, its not like his been retired for 35years and only picking up a rifle before this video again. 289yards with a 22rimfire is nuts in that wind! Well done!

@TheDollarSportsman

2 жыл бұрын

@@IMPACTSHOOTING it was certainly a fun day of shooting with 22’s 😃. I do like how you invited anyone to come to a match and shoot with y’all to learn how to really get on target; that’s exactly the kind of thing we need :).

@andrewstoll4548

2 жыл бұрын

May I ask where the wind was coming from? Was it straight on from the front or behind? Or did it come from left or right?

@TheDollarSportsman

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewstoll4548 it was blowing from the 3-5 o’clock position; the up drafts at that range are due to its location in a canyon. I had close to a mil of additional elevation when it was gusting hard.

Thank you for making this video. I hope a lot of people take the time to watch this video. I’ve had like experiences when spending time with military trained people.

My old man did three tours in nam as a sniper and I showed him this and he just started laughing his ass off its good to see him smile thx

@doejohnathon3487

6 ай бұрын

I asked him why he found it so funny and he said I've always been curious how the shittiest jobs in the military become the sexiest you would think you'd think motor pool or accounting or any other that doesn't require being shot at would be the jobs people would really want to go for but maybe that's because they never heard somebody tell him I would sacrifice 10 of you for one good logistics guy while your covered in mosquito bites and your balls be chafing so bad you want to just cry but everybody sees themselves is the hero not the guy who buys it during the opening credits cuz you didn't want somebody looking at him while he was taking a shit

@thetrib1

27 күн бұрын

​@@doejohnathon3487oh my

I’ve given you the thumbs up just for having the balls to make this video. 👍🏻

@justini7275

2 жыл бұрын

I gave a thumbs down 👎 and unsubscribed after watching this. Putting the crosshairs on fellow KZreadrs isn’t a good thing unless it’s planned out. What was the goal of this video? To take subs away from Nick and Lunkers? Their video wasn’t the greatest but they are just trying to make a living. I can’t stand people who think they are better than someone else.

@maddmavic

2 жыл бұрын

@@justini7275 that's alot of what lunkers and they crews do. They friends with wd. Demo ranch and others and they all act like better then every one lmao

@wheezzl

2 жыл бұрын

@@justini7275 He mentioned multiple time why. To make sure people that don't know better don't think what they did was good practice to repeat.

@robinepps7274

2 жыл бұрын

@@justini7275 lunkers is a complete joke!

@Veldtian1

2 жыл бұрын

@@justini7275 This douchebag guntuber culture is a fine line and guys like this who claim elite status need to reflect that to a high degree, a good example is Garand Thumb.

When he said “I’m going 2 revs up”, my eyebrows went 2 revs up.. then, you put up 2 fingers: and had the exactly same expression on your face. The whole office heard me crack up laughing! Thanks for another great video, this was a fun format!

I saw the video you are reviewing quite a while ago and thought the same thing. Thank you for the perspective.

The Gunners Mates who trained me back in the 1990's would take away my rifle if it took 15 rounds to get on target. Of course the Marines were doing 500 yards on iron sights. Yes this was way before the standard rifleman got an optic.

@arighteousname5882

2 жыл бұрын

Ok grandpa whatever you say

Just wanted to say I will be receiving my first chassis today in the mail from MDT thanks to your videos. Just getting into shooting and reloading.

@ronws2007

2 жыл бұрын

You will love it. I put my Mossberg Patriot .308 in to an MDT LSS Gen 2 with a folding stock adapter and an SCS buttstock. That brought the Patriot to an average of 1 MOA after 60 rounds of heat. And just recently, I put my TC Compass II in an Oryx, the sister company to MDT. In fact, the shipping info comes from an MDT email. To me, chassis are so great precisely because they are adjustable. And the metal frame is superior to any other kind of bedding.

I’ve made reasonable shots at 300-1000 with inferior scopes and cartidges and holding in thin air without requiring too many follow ups. (Lots of practice). The inability to use a mil-grid or turrets which greatly assist in first round hits is bonkers for spec-ops guys.

@retingo7940

2 жыл бұрын

Well they have over 20 confirmed kills so they did something right

@ArthurDubinsky

2 жыл бұрын

@@retingo7940 you begin to believe the army is just a bunch of liars. Since the entire war itself was a lie

its actually funny to watch civis trying to understand military dudes 😂

@jimothy-johnson

6 ай бұрын

Do military dudes have special scopes where MOA and MIL are the same unit of measurement? That's some pretty advanced sniper stuff then. He also thinks a .50 BMG can tear your arm off if it misses within a couple feet of you. Is that advanced military knowledge too? Snipers have a lot of skills/duties they need to develop and do outside of shooting. It's okay to admit that they're probably not going to be as good as shooting as someone like Piet, whose job revolves around shooting professionally. I wouldn't expect them to be as laughably incompetent as the guys in the video but still.

@nunyabusin

Ай бұрын

That's a weird way of seeing these two military dudes MIGHT be actual crayon eaters. Hard to understand ignorance when it's this bad. I wish it was an intentional joke

Yeah you got this guy Pieter Malan who is just an competitive shooter who is criticizing Nick(an actual vet) “The Reaper” who had 33 confirm kills in 4 months consider top 10 deadliest snipers in USA history who has been transparent about his struggles with alcoholism and PTSD since retiring from the Army. Next time take account on how PTSD can affect a vet after leaving the service before passing judgment on their skills after leaving the service.

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

I focused on the skills and not Nick as a person. Having said that, I don’t condone those bragging openly about how many lives they have taken like its some sort of flex.

@imarayrojas7504

2 жыл бұрын

@@IMPACTSHOOTING don’t you have a video title 33 kills? Unless you consider other mammals not living. Beside that my point on bringing his confirm kills is to show case his skills when he was in active duty and Nick states he retired from the army due to PTSD which led to his drinking also affecting his shooting skills. Yes this video puts him in a bad light but knowing his background is also important on knowing why his skills are lacking. That’s like judging you on how you would be as a cyclist now without knowing your background

I got outta the Marines 22 years ago and that's a very great class on how not to sight in a rifle..I don't see common military disciplines associated with shooting.

@biggs8729

2 жыл бұрын

I got out of the Marines 22 years ago too. HOORAH!

@lockedinstreetracing6005

2 жыл бұрын

I got out in 2010 guys Hoorah

@sykwookiee

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you fellas...hoorah!

He sighted in the rifle, takes like 10 shots scattered around the 500 yards. Mean while you shot the king of 1 mile without missing until the 1 mile range.

1. Weapon system(tolerances),barrel length,scope 2.Sight in range 25,36,50,100 etc 3.ammo 4.last but not least the operator and training/practice

What rifel is this in the Front?

I remember watching this video when it released and it almost entirely put me off of long range. I figured "well if this is what a pro sniper looks like, then what's the point?" So glad I decided to try it myself, sooo much fun.

@notanaftagent8444

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@tjsmith5750

2 жыл бұрын

They’re not “pro” snipers. They’re military snipers. Pro sniper targets don’t shoot back or call in air support.

@dcpanam

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Grateful I found some others.

I’ve shot the majority of my life (open pistol, 3 gun, and long range) and this is absolutely ridiculous…. To start with the language makes them sound 14 and me and my shooting buddy can do that in no time. I stand behind and support anyone in our military but that was pretty sad!

@hateuall78

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed- ive never shot competitively nor was in military- but myself and any of my dis-functional buddies would have no problem sighting in a 308 at 300 yrds with less than four shots- and that’s if we had just picked up a rifle we had never used and slapped a scope we bought on way there from walmart on the clearance isle- we don’t know shyt about mils or MOA either- we just know how to shoot- we give corrections to each other in target sizes and rarely at that- because we know how to use our own eyes and coordinate our own corrections- and not to mention we rarely miss-

@Jrod110

2 жыл бұрын

Y’all do realize military guys mostly do a job rather then specifically use their weapon as much. Any competition shooter could probably out shoot mil guys, as a veteran that’s not our biggest point of focus, being proficient at completing the mission is the case. And for snipers their main job is recon not necessarily actually using their sniper, many don’t even use it when they go out on missions

@M240D

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jrod110 Bull. I'm former military myself, and I absolutely had to be proficient with the various weapons systems that I used. These guys don't know basic shooting fundamentals, but they're passing themselves off as elite. It's embarrassing

@Bootyeatter6969

2 жыл бұрын

Language wise, as active duty we definitely use a curse word every so other word in our sentences when we are bullshitting with our buddies

@howardlane4350

2 жыл бұрын

@@M240D nick Irving is passing himself off as elite? He’s retired and he knows it. His time serving and sniping is over and he’s not claiming to be son deity. Relax bud

Yeah I vividly remember this video! 😆 I was thinking to myself "these guys were both snipers in the US military?!" I wasn't in the military, just enjoy shooting and like to be good at anything I do, and I can communicate siting in a rifle better than they did 💯, literally just did this a few weeks ago. Was spotting for a buddy shooting an IPSC target at 600yds. His first shot was about 20ft. In front of the target, slightly off to the right. I told him to come up 7-8mils and .5mil left. Took another shot and he was still about 1ft. Below target. Told him to come up a few more mils and he hit the very bottom of the plate, slightly left. Told him to come up 1 more mil and he was right on. Only took about 7 shots total to go from hitting 20ft. In front of the target @ 600 and slightly right, and that is including the shooter dialing the wrong direction one time lol. If I had to guess, I'd say they were on cocaine and/or drinking prior to filming this, but leaning towards cocaine for sure.

@wolf7el356

2 жыл бұрын

It's very obvious a lot of you guys who are competitive shooters & were not in the Military don't really understand what being a Sniper is. Being a competitive shooter is very very very easy when you're not being shot at or having to deal with the stress of hitting a target that is about to unload a RPG on your ground team. Shooting is really only like 30% of what Snipers actually do, there's a lot more to than just sitting on top of a hill in a gilly suit in pristine weather conditions & firing at an inanimate target.

Nicholas Irving was a former sniper in the 3rd ranger batallion. Important to note that he is not killing people for a living anymore and is probably out there just chatting shit trying to have a good time. I’m sure if it was someone’s head and his life was on the line, this would be a very different video.

@ctjctj8573

23 күн бұрын

Yea people don’t get that lol

It is a perfect example of why most KZread videos on shooting are apparently trying to appeal to a LCD audience to boost views and subscribers rather than provide real information, I have watched a lot of things like this for purely entertainment purposes or examples of what not to do. Thank you for sharing a more detailed analysis, unfortunately it probably won’t get as many views as things that play to armchair soldiers.

I’m a F N amateur and it took me less rounds to zero my new rifle last weekend. 7 rounds to be exact and I had no spotter, just did my best off a bore sight.

Would love to see your guide on a freshly mounted scope for a comparison. You would think being a sniper they would be able to reign in the shot much faster.

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look for the video pinned in the commenta

I always asked myself why everyone liked this guy. Hearing his stories I could tell he was full of it.

@Loyal69

2 жыл бұрын

He was in combat and his military record isn't in question so idk what you're talking about

@crypt0sFX

2 жыл бұрын

@@Loyal69 No one is denying that. However, listening to his stories of these "epic tales" and what he did always sounded fake and the fact that he can't zero in for 300 without taking 10+ shots just doesn't add up.

@nobunaga4720

2 жыл бұрын

@@crypt0sFX I don't really think you should take a video of tow guys having fun too seriously. It's like Messi casually playing football with a fan and your calling him trash because he wasn't dominating. If you know anything about guns, shooting at targets for fun and shooting at actual people is two completely different situations

@crypt0sFX

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobunaga4720 Really bad argument, he's clearly trying to hit his shots in the video. Sure they were messing around, however his reputation was on the line as that was the whole point of the video and he failed miserably.

@nobunaga4720

2 жыл бұрын

@@crypt0sFX Reputation on the line? Bruh He has a 100+ confirmed kills. His own battle footage is on KZread he has nothing to prove.

I remember watching that video before I got into shooting and thought it was brilliant, after about a year of shooting and wasting a boat load of money and ammo I came across impact shooting, it inspired me to get into matches, to cut down on useless kit, to get to know my kit better and it made me a better shooter. No disrespect to lunkers and nick I still think they’re funny guys and I love the American shooting community, but thanks to Peter and the shooting community in the UK I’d say I’m a better shooter now than what they showed in that video. So here’s to you Peter! 🍻

@Major_nutt

6 ай бұрын

Bc Nick was never a sniper and doesn't really know much about it, he was a designated marksman, he tells the internet he was a sniper bc it makes him money and fame

"If you dont use it, you lose it" No doubt in my mind he was good when he served, but most military guys get out, they stop training, and only shoot once in awhile.

@singleslammerhonda

2 жыл бұрын

yeah no doubt. shooting, especially accurately, is a perishable skill.

Sobriety of BOTH of these individuals is a key point. When you brag about using hard-core drugs (not weed). And then you see videos like this and other things that have been made public. And it starts to add up. I was lucky enough to get the opportunity to watch and hear the legendary Carlos Hathcock shoot and speak. And there sure wasn't any of this horse shit going on.

When I was a kid (10 -12) in the early 90’s I had access to pistols and rifles and shotguns. I also had lived on property. I would clean barn stalls and such for money so I could buy ammo. Anyway, I didn’t have anyone to teach me how to shoot so I just learned on my own. In short by the time I was 13 I could outshoot any adult and hit bottle caps at 70+ yards with iron sites. I actually learned that using only the front site on a pistol was way easier and faster to use on a target. So in short, some people just have an innate ability to run a gun. I wish I would have been able to make a career out of it. My boys who are 12 -14 are really good shots as well.

Nick (Reaper) is the real deal. Idk wtf was their issue in this vid but he’s genuine. That said their video was an embarrassment,but a lot of grunts are not gun guys snipers included. The rifle is a tool to use, they get out and forget everything, it’s quite common. AND Lunkers sucks and prolly sucked as a DM.

@Devanzo321

2 жыл бұрын

He has Some good story’s but good god idc what anyone says he lies like friken crasy an is a douche

That's Nick the Reaper right? I've seen him on a few podcasts and he seemed pretty solid. Not sure what he's doing here but wandering if he dumbed it down to fit it with the other clowns. Sure seems odd though.

@dontbetreadin4777

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, This is dude doing the breakdown is taking their play time and screw around time way too serious. ITS CRINGEY WATCHING THIS DUDE REACT TO THIS AND TAKE IT SERIOUS

@justinw2752

2 жыл бұрын

@@dontbetreadin4777 exactly

Is it a MOA or MIL scope? I've never heard someone use both on 1 scope before

Sad to say, I rarely ever meet or see military guys who can shoot that well, both at a regular range or at a match unless they practiced and learned on their own time... it usually seems like their zeroes and dope cards are done by someone else in the military and they struggle with setting up their own rifles like in this video. But ofcourse service members have a ton of other difficult things to do besides shooting so they deserve respect 🙏

Pete lol I watched that video once before and I’d be embarrassed if I were them guys. I’ve been watching your videos and Ive learned a lot from you. I actually just built my first long range rifle this year.

@Asako2000

Жыл бұрын

Embarrassed lol... how many people have you killed? How many tours? How many friends you lost? While you and Pete are shooting still targets, Nick was in the field risking his life, getting shot & being entrusted to take the life of enemy targets .. keep talking from your wife’s computer Dylan smallwood

If I ever shot that badly I certainly wouldn’t be posting a video about it…I’m sure many highly qualified and experienced service members of the armed forces around the world 🌎 are cringing 😬

This is a weird video that popped up on my feed. It’s just weird. Nicholas Irving is a proven, elite sniper, in actual combat. I don’t get what the video is trying to do.

Good thing the targets weren't moving or shooting back, you are spot on a sniper and spotter work hand and hand so they can surive down range and complete the op.

Lol Pete we called this dude out when this video came out. Offered to pay his match fee to any 2 day match to see what he could do lol. It was a pretty funny thread on IG.

@ryanjohnson842

2 жыл бұрын

What IG was it. I want to read his responses… or did he even respond?

@fernandoquintana7238

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen newbies shoot better than that!

@logankent5865

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much everything this "reaper" guy does he comes off as silly and I mean I respect the work he's done but in the civilian world he comes off just as if he doesn't know anything.

I’am no expert but this BS is a joke. I hope no one takes him seriously. Thank you for your support of all of us, and your help to all who need your expert input.

@dontbetreadin4777

2 жыл бұрын

exactly theyre screwing around and this dude is taking it SUPER SERIOUS.

I remember watching that episode when it came out and I was very disappointed. His channel is more for entertainment value so look at it in that light. I do believe he was labeled the deadliest sniper in his time there. You can't really take his stuff to serious and yes that is horrible shooting. I used to watch your channel all the time but for some reason I became unsubscribed but im back now. Love how informative your content is

Just going off of what he said that in combat he would just do holdovers, it could be that he's used to more dusty environments that provide more feedback for misses. Having not read his book and only seen a few pictures of him on deployment and a few interview clips he also used a gas gun. While not ideal I'm sure you can get pretty good results just doing that, especially from concealment or cover with 20 round box magazines.

@zestygokart2992

2 жыл бұрын

Good enough I should say

Pieter, I've always thought you were a class act. This video proves it. Professional assessment of the shooting, without unnecessary personal attacks. "Just the facts." And the facts are, this is not exceptional shooting in this video.

Seems like the review was a bit on the personal side, from your reactions and criticisms. Your normal demeanor is a lot more endearing and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your precious videos. I have no previous military experience and am an admitted pretty novice shooter, but if I had to guess it would be that running and gunning in the military might be a bit like working in a donut shop, the last thing you want to eat when you get home is a donut. For others it may be quite the opposite. I would expect their skills to drop off a bit as any other perishable skill if not practicing regularly. In the grand scheme of things, Its not that big of a deal, just a couple of guys out having a bit of fun shooting, you shouldn’t take what others do so seriously. It doesn’t seem like lunkers is trying to compete in the same space that you are in, so to expect them to be as proficient as you would be a bit unreasonable.

@OTG_Zulu

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. These guys shoot for a past time not a living. And personally (being a novice to long range and vehemently hating to zero optics) 15 rounds to get on target isn’t that much especially when you can literally pick up those exact same loads from the store. Hand loads maybe a bit dif.

‘Never want to close the bolt unless you are on target’. That wouldn’t go over well amongst military folks.

All I can say is nick struggled with PTSD for a while so I’d assume he put the guns down for a while as well, since he ALSO tried taking his own life at one point. Comp shooters are the best in the world at a target from a set range. But moving targets rain know shine with a few seconds to hit your target is tough. Ever heard of people who work best under pressure? People who fail class work but ace every test? The conditions they are shooting in is more foreign then not. If you notice nick got better the faster he tried to move while shooting. And lastly as far as language goes it’s different from comp and real life combat. There’s plenty of professional mechanics who use technical terms vs regular car guys you meet at cars and coffee. For example I argued a guy down on the term “boosted” as he was speaking on his “procharged” vette yet no one besides technical people refer to boosted as its definition name. The term boosted is only ever used for “turbos” not regular forced induction. The point of what I’m saying is the technical terms you want them to have they won’t and the reason why they aren’t on the same page is because they don’t have the chemistry which is why they seem so awkward together. In comparison to comp where everyone is on the same page or people or the difference between each individual is very slight and easy to adjust to

@jimothy-johnson

6 ай бұрын

Given that moving targets are commonplace in PRS comps, I'd bet on Piet to hit it instead of Nick. All of his hunting videos showing that ability to hit moving targets and targets whose range is changing just reinforces that. The "technical terms" aren't terms they're units of angular measurement and are not equal. 2 MIL does not equal 2 MOA in any lingo. That'd be like saying feet are the same thing as yards. The sniper worship in the comments here is what incentivizes snipers to lie about their accomplishments, like most of the famous ones do.

@michaelescalera9909

6 ай бұрын

@@jimothy-johnson we can agree to disagree, I see your points and I’m not saying they aren’t valid I’m saying cut the man some slack. It’s not worship it’s respect. I don’t look at ali and think of him losing (which he has lost multiple times badly) I think of him winning and the wars he went through to win. I think people in the military do stretch the truth yes. But one thing I don’t think is that nicks kill count is fraudulent. Maybe I’m gullible or naive to you but those are just my beliefs. I respect your beliefs but mine just differ is all

From Australia, ex Military myself and sport shoot long range, You.Sir are awsome and have learned a great deal from you. Keep doing what you do SALUTE

@IMPACTSHOOTING

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that Sully, have a fantastic weekend Sir! Thank you for your service!

Nick "The Worlds Deadliest Sniper LOL" also loves shooting the 6.5 creedmoor because "It shots so fast". And before I get he's a Vet so i should respect him, so am I and respect is earned not just handed out. I went out with a 308 took me 5 shots to zero at 500 spotting myself.

@issackinney4155

2 жыл бұрын

Your a joke. Are you a military sniper? Do you know what it takes to make it as a top sniper in the military? It's not just about shooting....lol. Stroking your own ego. Wow 5 shots Im so good. How many confirmed kills do you have?

@jefferyrader5153

2 жыл бұрын

This should have been done much closer, then walked out to 300.

@jefferyrader5153

2 жыл бұрын

@Nate W not necessarily, you have to start somewhere though. We went from 25yards straight to 200 in the marines on m16's and had the same point of impact. You just have to know the trajectory of the cartridge you're using..

@sykwookiee

2 жыл бұрын

How would you like Nick to earn your respect? Shoot 33 men in front of you? It's confirmed by the Army... I think that this video is them clowning...Rob is a lost cause...if you are an American citizen, you should at least respect the uniform of the men and women who VOLUNTEERED to defend our nation...all of them were there because they had the balls to sign up and do the things for those who can't...or won't...

@freedomlover5719

2 жыл бұрын

@@sykwookiee By not acting like a child with a new toy, It's a weapon a tool to be used as such. He has said many things online that make me think he knows very little about shooting. I don't give a crap how many men he's killed, Chris Kyle killed and when he came home he didn't brag about his kills he quietly lived his life helpinng anyone he could. That man has my respect 100%. If you read my comment I also served but I'm not trying to get paid off my service to the country, we all took the same oath. Please understand I'm not talking crap about him as a person don't know him like that but as a shooter he needs to get some training apparently from someone other than the US Piet has a class he would probably even give the young man a discount.

When I first saw their video over a year ago I was less than impressed. My reaction was the same as yours and I have no special training. I really thought this was a cluster f***. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one. I definitely wouldn’t have posted that shooting video and I’m certainly no sniper, at least I didn’t think I was before now.

It also helps to look through the optic as you make a correction.

I am so glad you made this video! I watched him do this last year sometime and couldn’t believe how horrible he did. The lingo was all over the place and I didn’t understand why he kept swapping from MOA to Mil. I am also a veteran and have the utmost respect for them. However, they can’t shoot worth a crap.

@MrSwccguy

2 жыл бұрын

And yet he is in the ARMY RANGERS sniper hall of fame... lmaooooo I would expect a vet to know that

@chrisfranks2215

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSwccguy that’s what confuses me so much. I can’t help but wonder if this was a troll video because he really does sound like he doesn’t know what he is doing. BTW, just because I am a vet doesn’t mean I know everything. I served in the Navy from ‘92-‘99. So not knowing something is not out of the realm of possibilities.

@MrSwccguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisfranks2215 you ain't wrong man. But I suspect it was part troll because if you watch him on demolition ranch he's like that too sometimes.

@crystallava5002

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisfranks2215 they're just goofing around and being careless and casual about it. Pretty dure he wasn't shooting like this while on duty 🤔

@agonzalez8924

2 жыл бұрын

@@crystallava5002 they're not goofing around. They're bragging and congratulating each other, its fucking cringe. Its obvious to everyone else, i dont get why some prefer to lick boots.

Glad I'm not the only one that was astonished when I watched this. I found these guys from Demo Ranch, and wow. As a hobby shooter/long range shooter, I don't claim to be any pro, but I've been speechless watching these two's videos. Not calling them frauds, but me and my hunting buddies have taken new rifles, zero'd and got dope to 1000y before these guys got zero...

@longgone13

2 жыл бұрын

I should add, no disrespect to these two, or any vets. I'm not hating or anything, just weary and possibly, disappointed.

@ghostdogworks

2 жыл бұрын

Well one of them uses the name "Reaper".... yeah, no. Nobody gets to choose their own name. Sounds like The Raven, or Ghost Wolf or some other video game bs. If you pay any attention you will notice that he says far, far away from other SF guys on youtube. Ever notice how guys like Tim Kennedy, Joco Willick, Mike Glover, Andy Stumpf never ever mention their war names?

@seanoneil277

2 жыл бұрын

Devolution Raunch is what that group should call themselves. I can't make it past 3 mins on any video of theirs. Very creepy vibe to me. But they do have their fans.

@clo8076

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghostdogworks You’re absolutely right… Only turds get what most people would call “cool” nicknames… The day you get a goofy absurd nickname is a good memory… A few months or years later… After you’re no longer embarrassed… lol

@longgone13

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanoneil277 I don't mind Matt/Demo Ranch. His content is more light hearted, and hes usually not claiming to be the best of "x"/humanly modest. Some of his stuff is a bit cringe, but nothing compared to the two mentioned in this vid...

I am a civilian. I have no military background or training. The most instruction I ever received on firearms is from my father - also a civilian with 0 military training. I was able to zero an AK-47 into a 4" square with iron sights @ 100 yards in about 10 shots. And as any Kalash owner will know, those irons are horrible for precision shooting. Later I put a red dot on that same rifle and zeroed it @ 50 yards. It took 4 shots to put every round behind the dot.

@ToXicKush420

2 жыл бұрын

And that makes you better than the military how lmao

@24YOA

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToXicKush420 I didn't take 14+ shots to hit a target. IDK what these guys were doing. There's plenty of civilian shooters who could more competently communicate between spotter/shooter than .. whatever this was. That they're former military makes it especially unusual & embarrassing.

@ToXicKush420

2 жыл бұрын

@@24YOA fair enough

I don't know about the white dude but Nick Irving was definitely an Army Ranger sniper with 33 confirmed kills in Afghanistan. His book is also one of the best selling military books out there.