Spoiler: Luxembourg beats both of them and Andorra conquers the entire world.

@sgtmayhem7567

6 жыл бұрын

Did Luxembourg find a way to reanimate General Patton? Cool.

@stronkblyat6435

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget that Andorra is blessed by Vatican

@rocksorstones6176

5 жыл бұрын

What ever happened to Switzerland?

@atf7923

5 жыл бұрын

No Liechtenstein won the war

@soroosh_abd2589

5 жыл бұрын

Ooof

I think the best chance of Soviet success would be in about 1970. Not so much of a technological gap at this point, nuclear forces were about equal, still huge numerical advantage for the Warsaw Pact, US still has nearly half a million troops tied down in Vietnam, domestic situation in US is still quite volatile, Prague Uprising had been firmly suppressed, and Soviet morale, training, and discipline would be much better than in 1989.

@ferrarisuper

4 жыл бұрын

Tricky Dick i think the best chances for the Soviets were from 1960-1964, because in that period of time they enjoyed a larger nuclear arsenal, a little technological advantage, crazy numbers and a bigger PPA economy

@terminalius

4 жыл бұрын

Ferrari Super Wrong. The US nuclear arsenal in the early 60s outnumbered the Soviets’ by a factor of 3-5 times as much. Additionally, the Soviets have very few missiles and bombers that could’ve penetrated US airspace, while US Strategic Air Command was prepared and ready to level every Soviet industrial center and military base. Now, if this were conventional, I may be inclined to agree with you, but in a straight up nuclear war, the US would suffer at most tens of million casualties while the USSR would likely suffer upwards of hundreds of millions. NATO/WP countries in Europe would suffer the most, though.

@ferrarisuper

4 жыл бұрын

lightning dude that’s true, but consider that the Soviets could have produced more missiles and could intercept US ones thanks to their massive air defense systems. Most importantly they would have got air superiority over europe, because it’s fighters where on par (sometimes a little bit better) with the US ones, but the US is an Ocean far from Europe. Also the soviet tanks were better than the US ones.

@Braycali

4 жыл бұрын

I mean realistically the best time period is 1945, after all the soldiers settle down back home soviets can just steamroll through

@cjcanton9121

4 жыл бұрын

Best chance was in 1945, there's no way the US and Britain could have possibly stopped the Soviets at that point. It's still quite a mystery why Stalin didn't go for it.

I was stationed in Germany, our lifespan if the soviets ever attacked was very short. We were supposed to slow them down so Reforger could reinforce West Germany

@davidhudson5452

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin dont Scare Them They Dont Know What Reforger Is Charge You Know What Would Happen

@patvanquish4586

3 жыл бұрын

I was at Gatow and the only person I knew with a shorter estimated survival time was a cousin. RMP at Checkpoint Bravo. I used to call him 'the nominated target of the first shot'

@soapy3500

3 жыл бұрын

Reforger. Good lord I haven’t heard that one in decades. Baumholder here. We would’ve held.

@soapy3500

3 жыл бұрын

I was stationed in baumholder. 90-93. 3-12 infantry and 2-29 FA. 8th ID then 1 AD. Iron chicken.

@johnpappone8610

3 жыл бұрын

I was at sea on a destroyer... wasn't looking forward to fighting off swarms of anti ship missiles or swimming in the North Atlantic

dont even want to imagine the wasteland germany is going to be in this scenario :S

@morecopemorerope4372

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine the huge civilian loss

@jakehayes1998

4 жыл бұрын

@@morecopemorerope4372 Especially if we only considered tactical nukes. Yet alone city killer nukes.

@morecopemorerope4372

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Hayes there probably wouldnt even be a germany anymore

@haowoon8213

3 жыл бұрын

Let alone a intact Europe.

@tommygun5038

3 жыл бұрын

Only if just contained to Germany.

I think the only scenario in which turkey and Greece will work together is this one greetings from Greece

@UnablEEE

6 жыл бұрын

Turks and Greeks dont hate each other. We are just everyday people. I am a Turk and i love Greek culture and history.

@eminemishh

6 жыл бұрын

george Χαριτος Once Turks and Greeks leave their countries they end up being friends.

@sirbader1

6 жыл бұрын

We all bleed red, boys.

@dernierergenekon5234

5 жыл бұрын

Basil II, The Bulgar Slayer we had many conflicts in Aegean too, dogfights at 90s, Imia/Kardak crisis 1996, Greek defence minister wanted to bomb Turkish Sat commandos which landed on West Kardak islets, there are also crisis at 80s about airspace and waters, also since 1964 conflict about Cyprus. If there wasnt Nato Turkey and Greece would declare war to each other 4 5 times.

@user-br7fv8co8h

5 жыл бұрын

@Basil II, The Bulgar Slayer of course

I live in Germany. I feel uncomfortable.

@tf2anti963

5 жыл бұрын

why

@davep5227

5 жыл бұрын

You should be,due to the Muslim immigration and Angelia Merkel! I will never go there!

@mememaster9393

5 жыл бұрын

David Paul you do realize this all planned out for the eventual ww3. Thank the US for creating isis and causing those ppl to go elsewhere

@richardroberts4355

5 жыл бұрын

@@mememaster9393 the US made many many mistakes in the middle east, no doubt about that. But implying that Germany and eastern Europe's immigration problems are the US fault is ridiculous. Most of them are coming from north Africa. They aren't war refugees either, they want the welfare programs. Merkel and the EU are the ones that want chaos. Poland Finland and Norway are the only counties there that have leaders with balls. Blame the liberal politics on the problem. Not the US.

@MrDonut-ch8dr

5 жыл бұрын

David Paul uhmmm, ok...

Interesting presentation. I was a serving NATO Military personal in the 1980’s. One thing you didn’t discuss was the possibility of a soviet satellite countries mutiny. There was a strong belief on the NATO side, that given a chance, several of the smaller Warsaw Pact countries would change sides.

@FDNY101202

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@Meanfromeindhoven

3 жыл бұрын

Czechoslovakia and Poland maybe.

@FDNY101202

3 жыл бұрын

@@Meanfromeindhoven Hungary

@Meanfromeindhoven

3 жыл бұрын

FDNY yeah,thats true. Poles hated Soviet Union,Czechs always wanted to be truly Western style country,Slovaks knew that this act of mutiny will help them to have own country and Hungarians will hopefully never forget Soviet Invasion.

@fetusofetuso2122

3 жыл бұрын

they probablywouyld have. But the Red Army had strong presence in many of them, and in case of war with Nato the amount of soviet military personnel would have been even greater.

You didn't consider me and my Leopard II being stationed on the in northern Germany most of 1989. As long as you didn't attack in the evening, early morning or weekend I was quite prepared to put up a stiff fight.

@pinksheep406

3 жыл бұрын

Your battle is scheduled for Saturday, thanks for the valuable intel!

@soapy3500

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment!!!😂😂😂

@Joshua-fq9tm

2 жыл бұрын

sir the soviets knew you were there so in their battle plans, they decided to bypass you and your tank on day and weekdays

@mostdefinitelynotadurian1043

2 жыл бұрын

The image of a boner is putting up a stiff fight in his Leopard II, in Northern Germany against the entire Warsaw Pact, is glorious

@jc.1191

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

So basically Austria was forced to be neutral and they would still be invaded by both? Thats a very big middlefinger to us if u ask me.

@lardinal2413

4 жыл бұрын

I mean thats just strange tbh

@llamallama1509

4 жыл бұрын

It's what ended up happening to Belgium in WW2

@lardinal2413

4 жыл бұрын

@@llamallama1509 and ww1

@williamfurlong9786

4 жыл бұрын

@@lardinal2413 austria is very mountainous and easy to defend

@yesyesyesyes1600

3 жыл бұрын

Austria was fucked back then. They would have nuked us from both sides just to make sure we won't help anybody and nobody would use our country to march through.

Soviets invade Finland Simo Hayha: Breaks out sniper rifle Soviets: Sorry we bothered you, *goes home

@plotTWiSt2024

5 жыл бұрын

Hayden Lau hahahaa true!🇫🇮

@javierroldan6667

5 жыл бұрын

Simo Hayha as arrived in moscow: Soviet Union has left the game,

@ivanredskin

5 жыл бұрын

and vassily Zaitev, stalingrad sniper?

@zepter00

5 жыл бұрын

very funny. between 1945 and 1989 finland was half satelite state for USSR. Soviets told them how many aircrafts, tanks and SPGs finns must buy from them. fins in war with soviet union were so much succesfull that they lostbig part of their country for USSR.

@neitilinvandring

5 жыл бұрын

Russia/Soviet was, are, and will be imperialistic.

Greece & Turkey working together. Wow that’s very likely.

@ThisAlias

4 жыл бұрын

That's illegal... Both of them would say to stay out of their ways and attack from their respective fronts...

@mikael5938

4 жыл бұрын

agree, tukey would have to push alone or just defend. bulgaria would not been invaded at all

@fordprefect6150

4 жыл бұрын

It would happen because they're both in NATO

@kinglouiev9530

4 жыл бұрын

Ford Prefect And they went to war over Cypress despite both countries being members of NATO.

@mhmoeller

4 жыл бұрын

@@fordprefect6150 iceland and UK had 3 wars despite both being in nato.

You should've considered the war scenario in the 1960s.

@ferrarisuper

4 жыл бұрын

S S A WP total victory

@alexalbrecht5768

4 жыл бұрын

Ferrari Super total victory implies the US is defeated. Good luck with that

@ferrarisuper

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Albrecht I meant total victory over Europe

@alexalbrecht5768

4 жыл бұрын

Ferrari Super they’d get no further than France before US reinforcements turn their advance into a fighting retreat. With their supply lines stretched thin they would be easy prey to superior NATO airpower. Superior armor means nothing if they run out of fuel just ask the Germans

@ferrarisuper

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Albrecht the WP airpower was far ahead then the Nato one. Also that’s not WW2 lol, there were lots of roads and railways. Also even without roads to bring oil from Eurasia to France would be easier than bringing everything from the other side of the Atlantic

After the 1989 revolution, I talked to a Czechoslovak army officer about the WP's capabilities. He said that from the late sixties onwards, there was no realistic chance of an attack on western Europe because of the low level of loyalty of the Soviet Union's allies. i.e., there was a high risk of the Poles, Czechs, East Germans etc. either not fighting at all or switching sides.

Next Idea: NATO vs WARSAW PACT NUCLEAR WARFARE

@kokofan50

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone fires their missiles and then dies.

@garygao6072

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone Dies, The End

@shoulderescape

6 жыл бұрын

everyone dies™

@deltoroperdedor3166

6 жыл бұрын

MR. BLYAT "Reflex in the sky Warn you you're gonna die Storm coming, you'd better hide From the atomic tide Flashes in the sky Turns houses into sties Turns people into clay Radiation minds decay!"

@rem4431

6 жыл бұрын

Wht about hiding in nuclear bunker?

Even though you stated why you wouldn't in the past, I think it would be cool to do a 1950's or early 1960's WW3 scenario, before the Sino-Soviet split to see if the difference of China could turn the tide.

3:00 Turks and Greeks fighting together..., wow no wonder this didn't happen

@Phoenix_The_HeroHater

3 жыл бұрын

I mean in modern times they have an ok relationship with each other and with other nato members so it’s not that hard to imagine it Edit:Nevermind

@aleksk4151

3 жыл бұрын

I am Bulgarian.

@yusuf3005

3 жыл бұрын

Change everythings

@SupremeLeaderyt

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phoenix_The_HeroHater well that didnt age well

@Phoenix_The_HeroHater

3 жыл бұрын

Supreme Leader it aged like milk

Finally been waiting so long!

@kingnevermore25

5 жыл бұрын

Stevio Gaming This is cancer and it doesnt represent anything

Could you do the same. But for the 1950 to 1970

@GAZAMAN93X

6 жыл бұрын

maybe fix fix Look up Operation Unthinkable

@nationalistfromcanada3497

6 жыл бұрын

Operation Unthinkable was for summer 1945. We're talking about going up against the Soviets at their absolute height of power in the 1960s.

@yaz2928

6 жыл бұрын

Definite win for Soviets. Soviet Union in 1989 was very weak and almost broken due to stagnation started under Brezhnev. No surprise 2 years later it broke. Still got a minor victory. However Soviets in 1960 were at their strongest and could've easily taken all of Europe.

@l0necroc

6 жыл бұрын

Lone Wolf "taken" but not won

@yaz2928

6 жыл бұрын

Dildo Faggins Lol, the US and all it's allies struggled against a minor Nazi force at Normandy, while the Soviets were facing over 80% of German soldiers alone. Once Europe was taken by Soviets it would be impossible for either the US or the UK to regain control. US naval superiority might save the UK from an invasion but that's it.

The picture of the M60 Patton tank was taken in my hometown of Lake Charles Louisiana. On the lakefront park area.

@azynkron

3 жыл бұрын

Want a medal for that?

One of the many constraints on the Soviet Army was its system of conscription and its sheer size. The Soviet population could no longer sustain the size of military that Soviets had created over the '70s. More and more Central Asians were being conscripted, and where they used to be limited to the Construction Troops and other non-combat organizations, now they were flowing into the combat units. The Soviets had to re institute Russian language classes they had dropped when the conscription period dropped to two years. The KGB, MVD, airborne, spetnaz, air force and navy (where conscripts had to serve three years) soaked up most of the technically competent, literate and committed/loyal ethnic Russians, leaving the tank and motorized rifle troops with what was left. Soviet tactics and operations had to be simple because they simply didn't have the quality conscripts to train in more than a single task in the two years they were with the unit. Conscripts with limited mental abilities and criminal records were swept up to fill the ranks. When the Soviets went to two years, DODSAAF was supposed to provide basic training through schools and youth organizations, but this was pretty much a failure between unmotivated cadre and a lack of resources. So conscripts came to the units untrained. A new batch came every six months as the time-expired conscripts moved on (one of the warning signs was if the Soviets DIDN'T release these men). This meant that 25% of a Soviet unit was made up of untrained or barely trained troops who could barely use their personal weapon. 25% would be at least partly trained and 50% would be fully trained to the rather simple tasks and standards. But 25% would be in short-timer mode. Training for new troops was often interrupted by fatigue duties. The Soviets had no real NCO core to maintain discipline and daily admin and ops. NCOs were just conscripts with more training, often still in their first year. Officers had to do junior NCO work. But they also had their own jobs to do, so they relied on the 25%, the "old sweats" to get things done. The "old sweats" assigned all the fatigue duties to the "new fish". They also acquired any money, or other assets and assigned the "New fish" to do individual menial jobs like cleaning boots and clothes for the "old sweats". If the "new fish" protested, they were beaten. The officers looked the other way. As an example of standards, a Soviet tank crew in a T-54/55 or T-62 was expected to master an engagement cycle, firing from the halt at stationary targets, of two targets a minute (the US Army standard with the M60A1 was six rpm). They might fire 10-12 live rounds a year (a NATO crew fired 100-120). The drivers might get 120-160 hours a year, compared to NATO troops who got at least 480. A lot training was on props and rote memory and confined to a single task. Tank crew members were rarely cross-trained onto another position. Living conditions can only be described as "Third World". Food was monotonous and unhealthy, hygiene and living conditions fostered contagious diseases like hepatitis, typhus and diphtheria. Troops had better equipment in many ways than earlier, even being issued sleeping bags, though this equipment was often left behind on maneuvers for lack of space. Training accidents, murders, suicides and such reached 7-8% and more of the force by 1987. The Soviets had problems with health and physical readiness of conscripts. Reservists received little refesher or sustainment training which probably helped since the Category C and Mobilization divisions were armed with 20 year old equipment. But except in GOSFG and some other high priority units, even CAT A divisions needed 10-15% of their force in reservists to fill to war strength.

@looinrims

Жыл бұрын

But somehow this was gonna be the force that took Europe in a week Amazing

@somerandomboibackup6086

11 ай бұрын

@@looinrims the force that couldn't take Afghanistan in 10 years and lost 15000+ men?

@looinrims

11 ай бұрын

@@somerandomboibackup6086 yup, if you believe all the soviet cocksuckers on Internet forums ‘ooooooh Soviets would’ve crushed nato they’d be at the Pyrenees in 11 days cuz the East Germans said so’

@Dushmann_

10 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Good information. I've read about how awful it was for the "new fish" in the Red Army and in the Russian Army during the Chechen Wars.

@SenorTucano

10 күн бұрын

Ever heard of paragraphs?

Ahh I have been waiting so long for this Channel to cover things like Hypothetical Alternate History Conflicts and possibly even reenactments and illustrations of Legendary military campaigns Hiel to Commissar Binkov!

I think many countries of the Warsaw Pact would change sides if the war started in 1989.

@anonymous9656

6 жыл бұрын

Polski Ślachcic I believe that's why he assumes that morale is 100% and no allies involved. Including all these psychological factors would make the video very complicated and would require such a large amount of assumptions that might be affected by personal bias that the video just wouldn't be as accurate.

@wasylwasylson7349

6 жыл бұрын

That's why the author should have made the scenario for mid 1980s at the latest not for 1989. It's just silly for 1989. At least in mid 1980s eastern block was still more or less politically stable and it's economy although not in good condition by any stretch could have sustained a war effort for a short time (maybe not even then - not sure about that but certainly not by late 80s), but not in 1989. Also long term war (several years) is not even worth making scenario without taking into account political and morale factors. Again author should have concentrated on up to 1 year scenario at most. After that it all breaks down without taking into account more complex factors. It just becomes useless even as an intellectual exercise - it becomes too detached from any possible potential reality that could have existed.

@jak00bspyr72

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed. It would be more possible for war to start in time of Cuban Missle Crisis rather than last moments of USSR and Warsaw Pact.

@swietoslaw

6 жыл бұрын

The year 89 is weird, this is start in changing in Poland so they would not be fighting alongside soviets

@brandonlyon730

6 жыл бұрын

The Union probably wouldn't be the best in economic terms, the Chernobyl incident was only a few years ago in 1989, and that power planet has cost the Union a arm and leg just to repair the damages that it cost.

Binkov, Thanks for this deeply interesting video on Cold War scenario. Very good and original channel on Military matters-well done! I

Outstanding work, again, you guys do excellent research.

The things I'd do to that puppet....

@andrewl258

6 жыл бұрын

CAT: Lmao. I'm not sure what I meant tbh, but yeah, that sounds close.

@Madplanetguy

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew L uhhhhh... if that puppet turns you on, theres something seriously wrong with you...

@zacharymoskovits5530

6 жыл бұрын

Madplanetguy so true

@noneshere

6 жыл бұрын

Its made from China

@ZachAttack-tp7eo

6 жыл бұрын

Thats called muppet necking

Impressive like always.

@HeavyStorm4

6 жыл бұрын

i wish he had looked into the cooperation difficulties NATO could have faced, like one i have read was that NATO had divided the European theater into several air defense zones which ran longitudinal along Europe and these zones had been assigned to different countries, it was argued that the borders along these zones could have made severe weak points

@ZacksYT

6 жыл бұрын

sWechkom rejela 7ata entom tetfarjou binkovv

@algerian4480

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@algerian4480

6 жыл бұрын

+Mid ary Hello brother

@algerian4480

6 жыл бұрын

+Zacki BoI yeah brother.

West Germany by area. 32% forst, 53% agricultural, 25% urban = 110% :)

@yigitalpalakoc

3 жыл бұрын

Upgrades people, upgrades

@ChazCharlie1

3 жыл бұрын

Now that's what I call German efficiency!

This is poor speculation.I was a soldier in one of Warso Pack army, where accents and priority were different and variation made in many way!

@AudieHolland

4 жыл бұрын

Morale and combat quality of NATO troops differed greatly too. American troops were more known for their drug and drinking habits. What's more, while their NATO allied troops would get out in the dirt, Americans preferred to remain in their vehicles, which were warm and comfy compared to slugging in the mud. And I cannot imagine that either side would be prepared to lose 100,000s of men in atrocious fighting conditions. Napalm was a much used weapon to 'chase enemy infantry from buildings,' so they could be bombed and machinegunned in the open. In my opinion, after only a few weeks, both sides would reach an agreement to stop advancing and to stop shooting at each other. NATO ammunition stores are also greatly inflated because it had to deal with quite a number of different calibers. France's position within NATO has always been up for debate. They were outside of the NATO military organization but cooperated on the political level. This would have decreased fighting capability and efficiency within NATO to a significant degree. Meaning it could mean the difference between holding the line or having to fall back because of lack of supporting troops. British General Sir John Hackett wrote two books, with two very varying scenarios of how WWIII would be fought in Western Europe. He had great insight into the political instability of the Warsaw Pact forces. A protracted, costly war would probably have seen one or two sattelite states rebel which would mean more forces would have to be diverted to fight the rebels. Then again, NATO's main supply route across the Northern Atlantic would have been its achilles heel. The Soviet Northern Fleet was not designed to fight a long war but to launch an enormous amount of anti shipping missiles at the start of hostilities which would have decimated NATO naval forces in the Atlantic. Also, as the military strategic minds in WWI could not keep up with the attrition rate of infantry in the endless trench warfare (which is a misnomer because if the men had remained inside their trenches, it wouldn't have been all that bad). Strategic minds theorizing about WWIII would have been baffled by the fact that after one or two weeks, there would be no airfields operational anymore and precious few combat planes and pilots left after the initial slaughter (AAA missiles and 'Shilka' type AA vehicles would have reduced the average survival time of pilots on either side to minutes instead of hours).

@nxshuu

4 жыл бұрын

pakika tetiso I mean,war really is unpredictable. I’m glad none of this happened in real life tho.

@drakashrakenburgproduction5369

3 жыл бұрын

@@AudieHolland let the actual experts and military professionals talk

@AudieHolland

3 жыл бұрын

@menckencynic Thank you, glad you found it very funny. Which is not what people can say about you.

@AudieHolland

3 жыл бұрын

@menckencynic Sure man. Have a good life!

I have been waiting for this FOR WEEKS Yay

Finally, I’ve been waiting for long!!!!

I once knew an old Polish guy who lived under communist rule in Poland and was an officer, am not exactly sure in what, and he told me that if war ever broke out between the Warsaw Pact and NATO he was going to do everything he can to give away Soviet plans to NATO intelligence and he said that if he ever got desperate he would begin sabotaging Soviet supplies. He mentioned Soviet supplies specifically not necessarily Polish supplies because he sort of despised the Soviets but yet he was an officer, (Still not exactly an officer of what but oh well).

@zrbbg9639

6 жыл бұрын

Josue Yanez Well the Soviets were kind of rude to the Polish until the 70s so no wonder he hates them.

@alexs.2727

5 жыл бұрын

They have their reasons true, but they're to this day the salitiest people in europe

@michaelw6277

5 жыл бұрын

Alex S. Seems like they’ve earned the right to be.

@Rus-bw2oq

5 жыл бұрын

Without the Soviet union and its great sacrifice in the war, these Poles would now speak German and be slave to them.

@heneraldodzz4978

5 жыл бұрын

indian summer true

Excellent analysis. Thanks.

Finally! There needs to be way more ww3 fiction, so many what ifs and decisiveness

@kattegatcitychamberofcomme311

6 жыл бұрын

Salokin , Team Yankee by Harold Coyle

@throwaway4827

6 жыл бұрын

Arc Light was an excellent book regarding World War 3.

@gamerguy4476

6 жыл бұрын

Go and play World in Conflict.

@kokomo7032

6 жыл бұрын

NotPoliticallyCorrect77 can we destory Palestine and Islam after?

@nationalistfromcanada3497

6 жыл бұрын

I read that as ww3 fanfiction, this is awkward...

You should do do China vs Soviet Union during sino-soviet split.

@hwg5039

6 жыл бұрын

Nato would catch this chance and defeat both countries

@orangeboss896

5 жыл бұрын

Cyime China probably stood no chance

@jurisprudens

5 жыл бұрын

China had numbers though. Soviet military was preparing to repel "human waves" by building fortified areas. :)

7:43 Those percentages don't add up to 100. They add up to 110

@dominiksoukal

2 жыл бұрын

German efficiency

You're forgetting that by 1989 the USSR and the Pact were both dissolving. The Soviets could not longer keep up the arms race, and the Pact countries were of dubious loyalty. The Soviets would have had to spend considerable resources to just ensure that the Pact did not rebel.

@johanlassen6448

20 күн бұрын

Bro Binkov is a known Soviet shill. By 1989 the USSR had 0 chance to win a conventional war against NATO even if all Pact countries stuck with them. NATO troops simply maintained a much higher training and technological standard to the completely overrated Soviet crap.

Polish army main target was Denmark. Greetings from Poland

@Madplanetguy

6 жыл бұрын

Michał Michał hello there! I assume you're quiet and a good construction worker as you're Polish (thats my polish stereotype)

@Krzemieniewski1

6 жыл бұрын

Madplanetguy Iam not construction worker. Iam yacht skipper...

@1234femmarc

6 жыл бұрын

Quite funny because Poles and Danish pilots when flying close to each other doing the Cold War often waved at each other and smiled, compared to Soviet pilots who just looked straight ahead.

@jurisprudens

6 жыл бұрын

I wonder how they could see each other in jet planes. Sounds like a legend

@RoKoStudios

6 жыл бұрын

+Marc1234fem Soviet bomber crews often waved that their NATO intercepts, theirs even a picture of one Soviet holding up a Pepsi showing it to the NATO pilot.

The actual video starts at 00:38

@zrbbg9639

6 жыл бұрын

Mr_Quality97 thanks

You missed some important points, in 1989 it would very questionable whether countries in eastern blocks would stick with Soviet Union. They are likely to remain neutral or even switch to NATO. (Poland, Hungary etc)

@rajc2257

5 жыл бұрын

Travis Zhang ye

@SonBui-de6qx

5 жыл бұрын

Do you even know Binkov’s rules? No nukes. No allies outside of the original combatants. Same morale.

@rajc2257

5 жыл бұрын

Son Bui u didn’t watch the video did u

@jeffreykalb9752

5 жыл бұрын

@@SonBui-de6qx Which means useless analysis.

@Saeronor

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreykalb9752 Sadly, in this particular case it is indeed useless. While one can imagine countries trying *everything* to resolve a local conflict without nukes, this sort of scenario suggests the opposite, with tactical warheads embedded in any large - scale planning from the day 1. Moreover, even if deploying nukes ends up less apocalyptic due to countermeasures, failures, human error, political pressure, that's still more than enough to affect another factor Binkov leaves out - morale. Not necessarily in a way people usually predict, though. Sure, population in WP was less than friendly to USSR in 1989. However... imagine you live in eg. Poland, which is most likely nuked into oblivion in the very beginning. Why? This is how NATO could ruin logistics of WP with one swift strike - the alternative routes to Germany were inferior and/or more exposed. Imagine you live there, secretly predisposed towards the West. Oh, wait, NATO just turned your major cities into irradiated wasteland. All available sources are saying they attacked first. All alternative sources are either jammed or too risky, because it's war, therefore listening to / disseminating foreign propaganda might already be a capital offense. Suddenly it's Soviet AA units who are defending your cities against conventional bombardments. The more it takes, the more it looks like "both sides are assholes", so rebellion makes no sense. So... rather than some top 10 Anime Betrayals I suspect Soviet puppets would turn into massive anti - war hubs, pressuring their communist governments about armistice - and they, in turn, would actually have something to pressure Moscow with: their remaining infrastructure. Sure, USSR can outright occupy one or two puppets to secure supply lines - but not without extremely costly drama that would spill over entire WP.

Great animation + narration. Just a reminder that by the 1990's the USSR was on the brink of collapse and the economy was near garbage.

This is very similar to Tom Clancy's works like "Red Storm Rising" - even with greater numbers, the Soviets could not push through Germany because of a lack of air superiority, insufficient supplies and NATO's technological edge. Great work as ever Commissar!

First,love ya,commissar.Always will be a subscriber

@zacharymoskovits5530

6 жыл бұрын

Why you want to boycott pepsi

@michaelbrown2300

6 жыл бұрын

Zachary Moskovits eh,it was a joke lol

@zacharymoskovits5530

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Brown k lol

@michaelbrown2300

6 жыл бұрын

Zachary Moskovits what?

@zacharymoskovits5530

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Brown ok, laugh out loud

What amazed me about this video, is that both sides had so many soldiers fully mobilized and ready within a day. Thats an amazing achievement. tbh. See 1:50

Now y'all need to do a World War III, 1968 NATO vs Warsaw Pact

Although you've already given your probable conclusion, I'd love to see videos on World War III at other points in history - maybe one for every 10 - 15 years of the Cold War.

The notifications that i waited all this time 😁

Such a good video to watch and rewatch. Could you make another simulation for the 60s?

Did you get influence for this video from World in Conflict: Soviet Assault

Bulgaria had a big rocket arsenal capable of destroying most European Turkish and Greek bases, so a quick advance would have been unlikely.

@akhsdenlew1861

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure both sides would just keep defensive positions at both the balkans and the caucasus, unless if turkey starts mobilizing serious numbers.. which is unlikely. Those 2 fronts would be a stalemate for the vast majority of the war with little to no changes in the front lines. The battlefield was always going to be germany and both sides knew that.

@nikolaigrudev8095

5 жыл бұрын

Bulgarian army not defensive!

@mint8648

2 жыл бұрын

Proof?

Canada vs Australia. Now that would be quite an odd war

@IC3XR

6 жыл бұрын

I reckon it’d be a draw

@silverhost9782

6 жыл бұрын

No one wants to see their children fighting🇬🇧lol

@IC3XR

6 жыл бұрын

Amen

@genericname5909

5 жыл бұрын

Lemo n no with the United states helping Canada or Australia the person the the us is helping

@malamuteaerospace6333

5 жыл бұрын

Surfers vs Lumberjacks

You missed one big factor, the US and NATO using laser guided bombs. That completely changed modern warfare and were an incredible shock to Soviet planners. Any Soviet ground forces without air cover would be decimated by precision strikes. And the F-117 stealth fighter would destroy Soviet air defense because it was an unknown quantity at the time and it's vulnerability to particular frequencies had not been discovered and developed. So it would be unopposed at night. In fact the general superiority that NATO forces had at night would be a big factor as well, as the American forces in Iraq said "we own the night". NATO could advance and counter attack at night and reinforce it's positions during the day.

@keithmitchell6548

4 жыл бұрын

As a former British Army soldier, I can say that we trained to do everything at night.

@AC-hj9tv

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithmitchell6548 hell yea

@vejet

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The Warsaw Pack was lucky the West didn't engage them in the late 80's early 90's, it wouldve been a blood bath right up to the boarders of current day Russia. What a dramatic change from the post war period until at least the mid 70's when the West would have had virtually no chance in stopping the Soviets from sweping across the continent. Oh how the times change.

There were so many parallels that could be drawn between this war and WW1

What you are forgetting is the amount of unrest within Warsaw Pact member nations; we are right at the end of the Cold War here, and all member states were turning against communism: it wouldn’t be unlikely for larger member states, such as Poland, Hungary, Czechia and East Germany to revolt, not only reducing soviet numbers and increasing NATO numbers, but also many soviet divisions in East Germany could find themselves cut off from supplies

@ryanjacques166

5 жыл бұрын

Ninja-Gaming to be fair he said politics aside

@ozzykulinski896

5 жыл бұрын

Haha and you think unrest would do any good when soviet armies just ride the trains to Germany? You think unrest in Poland or Germany during wat time would mean a prison or hard labour sencence? No, you get shot in the head for treason same day.

@piotrd.4850

5 жыл бұрын

See Vietnam War unrest in US - how do you think it would be avoided in this scenario ?

@johnadamski9913

5 жыл бұрын

Poland would never fully fight for Soviet Union.

@yeeterdeleter6306

5 жыл бұрын

What about the problems nato has I know a lot of them and it should decreases the amont of enlisted

Great video as usual. For future reference, the USMC uses the division model instead of the brigade model like the army does

would love to see these done again with an earlier timeframe

Interesting! But where did you find your number sources?

Clicked this so damn fast.

@9and7

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah but only after you sank the Yamato!

China vs Taiwan with 2 scenarios 1: Taiwan alone 2: US helps Taiwan

@fountainchristain

6 жыл бұрын

James Fraser for 1 Taiwan uses it's land to cause deaths but would be pushed back but would cause damage for every mile For 2 it would be like how China vs USA but maybe the USA comes out a bit better cause they can use Taiwan to pull attention away and I am not sure of how big the Taiwanese airforce is but should be big enough to pull some of China's air power away so more towards the USA And Tawian forces

@pablodelatorregalvez4260

6 жыл бұрын

1: China invades Taiwan within a few days. 2: China invades Taiwan first but then USA recovers it.

@mickeyg7219

6 жыл бұрын

Pablo de la Torre Gálvez I have read the strategic analysis paper about what happen if China invades Taiwan, actually it will take more than a few days, months even.

@hwg5039

6 жыл бұрын

Mickey G lol, according to Taiwan's own defense minister, they can only fight for a week in the best scenario

@thetraveler0386

6 жыл бұрын

Taiwan's military is designed to defend itself until the US actually comes and intervenes.

Great video

I like how Bulgarian tank says "Bulgaria hits, Bulgaria crushes"

if this is 89 then shouldn’t the american tanks have a much larger edge of russian tanks- as seen in gulf war the m1 decimated the t-72s and the t84s (i think its t-84 somone correct me if i’m wrong)

@hrpuff

6 жыл бұрын

Nick C You might be combining the t-80 and t-64

@nottoday3817

6 жыл бұрын

T-72s used by Iraq were much inferior to the ones used by USSR, Also, different tactics and numbers. One of the biggest reasons why Iraq got so crushed was because the tanks were stripped bare of their advanced equipment(night fighting, range finders etc.) and were dug down in static positions. This allowed for US forces to take them out at range. Of course, the fact that Iraq also had no Airforce was a wellcome advantage.

@danielhalachev4714

6 жыл бұрын

Nick C Why do so many people compare WP strategies and equipment to the exported ones to somе middle eastern jokes who have never fought real war? Real Soviet equipment and tactics are far superior to that of Iran/Irac/[some country other than the Soviets]. Even WP equipment was inferior to the one of the USSR.

@danielhalachev4714

6 жыл бұрын

Blah b How can you even compare Soviet elite divisions to some cowards?

@nickc8773

6 жыл бұрын

daniel halachev that makes sense, thanks for the input.

IT'S FINALLY HERE :DDDDD

I really enjoyed it. I spent two years with the US 2nd Cavalry (78-80) as a front line unit covering the Hof Gap. I was mostly an M60A1 RISE tank driver, but filled in as a loader for gunnery at Graf. It was accepted that we would cease to be a functioning unit at +1 hour after the Soviets crossed the frontier. That is why we had "escape and evasion" training.

Should have considered many of the Pact troops switching sides, hardly anyone there wanted to be a part of it, especially the population.

@schadenfreude1061

5 жыл бұрын

'Full Morale'.This rule is literally right at start of the video

@HemlockRidge

4 жыл бұрын

@@schadenfreude1061 Yeah. BUT... i n the real world, I seriously doubt that Germans would want to fight Germans, and the rest of the Soviet "Puppet States" would probably drag their feet, if not outright refuse. Thus; a significant portion of the Soviet army would be tied down trying to keep their thumb on the unwilling.

@m1ckyg21

4 жыл бұрын

@@schadenfreude1061 i think the whole point was that "rule" is a HUGE assumption and very very flawed

@erersdgqhqerhqeh3372

4 жыл бұрын

HemlockRidge same comment but change into US european puppet states

@Moleoflands

4 жыл бұрын

@@erersdgqhqerhqeh3372 but they are beimg invaded. A lot easier to convince the population to fight

NATO VS Wakanda

@plasmaphy2512

5 жыл бұрын

the one febo10 Wakanda will win

@gareththompson2708

5 жыл бұрын

^ no contest

@KawaiiCanadafreememes

5 жыл бұрын

Going by the movie Just fuckin nuke 'em

@annyoung7853

5 жыл бұрын

Wakanda is pure fiction.

@ausore9832

5 жыл бұрын

Wakanda forever.

Your conclusion was exactly in line with what I thought it would be. For both the one year and multi year projections.

@Verpal

6 жыл бұрын

Same here, the only difference is that I think the actual war outcome will be determine by which side China support. If China support Soviet, Soviet can reach Paris and Pusan, If China support NATO, Soviet will be utterly decimated.

@Omega172

6 жыл бұрын

Verpal Wl, China would probably end up supporting NATO. China was opening relations with the rest of the world and didn't like the Soviets. But that's moot because if we are talking real world scenarios, then nukes would be accounted for and everyone would be fucked.

@Omega172

6 жыл бұрын

But I think China was still more pro west. They were in the process of integrating into the global economy, which mattered more than ideological similarities with the Soviet Union.

@romanbuinyi

6 жыл бұрын

Verpal I think it doesnt matter anyway: If China attacks Soviet Union it would be nuked, if China sides with Soviet Union it cant help SU reach Paris because of terrible logistics of SU eastern part.

@Omega172

6 жыл бұрын

Well yea. realistically if that war had broken out then, everyone would have been nuked and the world would have ended lol.

I did Summer Sales in 1989, by day six we were supplying targeting information for NATO commanders en route to Berlin. Conventional would not have happened and the Soviets approach then was very much different to what most people imagined. Ever wondered why they placed so much emphasis on NBC capable vehicles ? They pre identified 106 targets in West Germany for tactical nuke strikes and they would simply drive their tanks through what was left.

@emrysgeibhendach7572

2 жыл бұрын

that would not have gone well given that NATO would have responded with there own nukes the world would have been a nuclear hell scape

No way fighting would last that long. All ammo would be used within 4 to 6 weeks tops.

Also,2nd ranger bat is in Seattle.Dad was a Ranger.Ther would be 2 major theaters

@BagoPorkRinds

6 жыл бұрын

2nd Ranger BN is at Ft. Lewis near Tacoma. Not Seattle!

@michaelbrown2300

6 жыл бұрын

BagoPorkRinds Seattle area.Near the area.

@michaelbrown2300

6 жыл бұрын

BagoPorkRinds always considered it a big area.my Dad lived out there

@BagoPorkRinds

6 жыл бұрын

Well I live in Western WA. No one says Ft. Lewis (JBLM) is near Seattle. It has always been associated with Tacoma.

Azerbaijan vs Armenia pls

@Michael-ys4rf

6 жыл бұрын

Berat Ceylan No! RUSSIA ARMENIA VS TURKEY ASERBAIDJAN

@TheBlessingOfTurnip

5 жыл бұрын

Day 1: The Azerbaijani's Air Force Kite has attacked the Armenian Naval Raft without notable success Day 2: Both sides cure hangover Day 3: Monday

@arle3685

5 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-ys4rf umh Did you really fear Azerbaijan?

@Michael-ys4rf

4 жыл бұрын

@@arle3685 i m not armenian but i have to agree that azeri had a better army .

There’s a really good alternate history book series called World War 1990 which is worth checking out

Cool! Would love to see one of the Allies v The Soviet Union 1945 after the fall of Germany. I think Churchill wanted the war to continue against the soviets, but roosevelt dissuaded him.

Thailand Vs Malaysia(next video) And Myanmar , Laos VS Thailand (if you want to do next)

@TalesFromThailand

6 жыл бұрын

Thailand would rather decisively crush Malaysia.

@leekuntv6345

6 жыл бұрын

MRKOTO UOEJI wow is very good idea ( Friends from China)GG thailand

@mrkotouoeji4267

6 жыл бұрын

Lee Kun TV haha thanks but I'm from Russia my friend XD

WORLD IN CONFLICT

Just imagine the world without nuclear weapons. A protracted ww2 most likely ending in '47. And an all most immediate ww3 in the 1950's on the lines of this video. Einstein found the answer to global wars by discovering the means to develop weapons that can wipe out humanity.

The southern flank is an old story played in both WW1 and WW2. Neither worked for the Allies. The British ended up losing 2 divisions at Doiran and never attempted fighting the Bulgarians again. The Turkish border in 1989 was impenetrable fortress ex. nuclear weapons. In fact, that’s why the strategic rocket forces had intermediate ballistic warheads in the town of Sandanski on the Greek border. The Bulgarians had prepared for all kinetic scenarios hence they had stationed 3 armies (most of their available forces in the “star” formation (Elhovo, Topolovgrad, Sliven) there was 3 armored division in the town of Sliven designed to push back any initial Turkish advance. That was always perceived to be a stalemate with trench fighting unless the Alexander Lebed’s Soviet 14th army had engaged from Transnistria and pushed the Turks back across the Golden Horn.

@quinlanal-aziz6155

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we really want to keep the Muslims out of Europe

Tom Clancy had the best breakdown of a possible war TBH

@DMS-pq8

6 жыл бұрын

Red Storm Rising is the best

@AlexanderUnit-731

6 жыл бұрын

Do you realize that Tom Clancy is a fantasy author just like John Tolkien.

@Sceptre1

6 жыл бұрын

you do realize red storm rising was his idea for how a hot war wouldve gone right? Not the Jack Ryan serious, the Red Storm Rising book smartass.

@AlexanderUnit-731

6 жыл бұрын

The entire idea of Red Storm Rising was to shout "MURICA!" louder than retarded Ronald Reagan could.

@DMS-pq8

6 жыл бұрын

Paid Russian bot

China vs India

@Mohit-zn2rn

6 жыл бұрын

Ali // A Squad already a video is there. China wins

@nationalistfromcanada3497

6 жыл бұрын

Bops and Vagene vs Noodle.

@Mohit-zn2rn

6 жыл бұрын

Nationalist From Canada hey your Prime Minister is gay, right?

@anindyanarayansingh7896

6 жыл бұрын

Mohit Kumar bro no videos yet on India va China.

@hagalathekido

6 жыл бұрын

its obvious which one would win though, china has slightly more manpower and better economy

i love how he forgot to color west berlin as blue

This is the plot of World in Conflict. Love the mission where you control Norwegian Rangers. A bit of corrections though 1. Spain was in NATO as of 1989, they joined in 1982. 2. Albania was not part of WP in 1989, they chose to support China in 1968. 3. You forgot to mention Afghanistan, Vietnam, and the Philippines. The Soviets would have most likely redistributed their forces in Afghanistan to fight in Europe, while there will be most likely firefights from Soviet Naval forces in Cam Ranh Bay and US Navy ships from the Philippines.

Do Earth against Aliens for April 1st

@gareththompson2708

5 жыл бұрын

Aliens win. No contest. Exactly how they win depends a bit on their level of advancement and goal. It is reasonable to assume that they don't care about preserving the ecosystem as a sufficiently advanced civilization would mostly just see a planet as a raw materials for artificial habitats (they probably care about harvesting the rock and metal, not the animals or vegetation), in which case they would just sterilize the surface with an assortment of weapons. Some of the most fascinating weapons they might use to destroy us are the RKM (Relativistic Kill Missile, a solid object traveling at a substantial fraction of the speed of light so that it carries more power in raw kinetic energy than any chemical explosive warhead could ever provide, this thing is a continent killer. Side not: the technology for an RKM is available automatically upon developing ships capable of conducting interstellar travel in reasonable time-frames, as such it is one of the few weapons that we can absolutely guarantee every interstellar civilization will have available to them), a matter-antimatter bomb (releases 100% of the mass-energy of the reactants, is the most efficient bomb that is theoretically possible, also a continent killer), and last but certainly not least *drum-roll* the Nicoll Dyson Beam (this is essentially where you turn your entire sun into a giant Death Star with enough range and power to roast any planet in the galaxy from the comfort of your own solar system). Our own weapons would do little good against them. If they are taking pot shots from their home solar system then we have nothing that can reach them. If they have traveled here from a distant solar system then they automatically have incredible active defense technology (when you are traveling at 20% of light speed a single grain of interstellar dust packs as much punch as a small nuke, so you either develop active defense lasers that can detect and destroy targets the size of a grain of sand from light seconds away while they are approaching at 1/5th the speed of light, or you develop armor that can withstand the impact of a nuclear blast), meaning none of our nukes could even touch them. There are defensive countermeasures for all of their weapons of course (a planet sized shield to block out the Nicoll Dyson Beam for example). But those countermeasures require technology on par with the weapons being countered, and these scenarios usually assume modern humans against Aliens with interstellar travel. On the other hand maybe this scenario takes place a few hundred years in the future, and it is the humans who have developed interstellar travel and the aliens who are a low level industrial civilization defending their home world. In that case the humans would win, no contest.

@jamiebigham9420

5 жыл бұрын

Already been done by H.G. Wells. Viruses win.

@adriankepler5254

5 жыл бұрын

@@jamiebigham9420 loved the movie and the book lol

@user-fr6qn9xl9e

5 жыл бұрын

We got Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum. "Hiii, look at the earthlings!"

If you were to simulate WW2 France would have won.

@onepangaean3018

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you assume equally skilled generals so that's an F for the simulation

@henryp9671

4 жыл бұрын

One Pangaean how would you propose to simulate it then we don’t know how competent the generals on each side would’ve been nor do we know how the political fallout would have occurred

@ahmadhassan8466

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. France has no defensible terrain once Paris is taken. Germany is easier to defend

Since all of this video presupposes a straight numbers game. I'll throw one number out there to start. All military planners in the modern era state that a numerical superiority of 3-1 is necessary to achieve victory by an offensive force. Using your numbers the Soviet Union would fall short of those numbers from the start of the war. You used km advanced in for the Soviet Army from WWII. This is spurious and ignores the effectiveness of Soviet forces contemporaneous to this time period. Soviet effectiveness in Afghanistan during the 1980 war resulted in massive casualties on the part of the Soviets; against an enemy much weaker than and less capable than NATO forces. Soviet conscripts (in Afghanistan) had shown themselves to be much less effective than NATO reservists and US National Guard (in Iraq). NATO forces trashed Iraq in 1991. Iraq had been liberally supplied and trained by the Soviets. The primary gun of NATO tanks was still the 105 mm. The Israelis had used said weapon system in 1982 and reported kills on T-72s at ranges approaching 2 miles; it is unlikely that even frontline T-80s would have fared much better. (An Israeli kill requires a brew up which is a much higher standard than real life operations requires) Your numbers also ignores a really important number. Operational Readiness. I spent the early part of my adulthood in the US military eye ball to eye ball with the Soviet military. In my career I seldom saw the Soviets able to maintain better than 50% OR for an extended time. Some frontline units could maintain 75% OR for very short periods of time. By contrast US Army commanders could get relieved of command if they had less than 90% OR. The standard was 95% OR. I am talking about the late 1980s to mid-2000s. I don't know what the standards were before or after. In 1989 the Soviets would have been facing the US Army the best army in the world at the time (bar none). The Soviet loss rates would have been horrendous. Any US Brigade could obliterate a Soviet division in short order in 1989 in a straight fight. But it would not have been a straight up fight. In 1989, US artillery would have used Block-I GPS satellites and counter battery radars to nullify much of the Soviet numbers in artillery. Plus much of the NATO artillery was better protected SP guns. NATO air forces had a higher percentage of new fighters with all weather and night time capabilities. Soviet air forces lacked all weather capabilities and had less capable night fighting abilities. Since the embarrassments of the 1967 and 1973 Arab-Israeli Wars the NATO air forces had done extensive research on how to defeat Soviet SAMs. The First Gulf War is ample proof of their improvement in this area. Even if the Soviet frontline forces had 75% of their SAM systems operational it is quite likely they would have lacked the effectiveness they had had in those earlier wars. Large numbers of NATO aircraft were designated and crews trained for deep interdiction missions that would have made resupplying and maneuvering first and second echelon Soviet formations difficult to impossible let alone the follow up forces in the third and fourth echelons. As to the comments about reactive armor making Soviet tanks equal to NATO tanks...that's laughable. An APFSDSDU (aka the silver bullet) from a 105 mm doesn't even notice reactive armor (reactive armor has little to no effect vs kinetic perpetrators). If all NATO tanks fired HEAT this comment might have been believable but they didn't in 1989 anymore than they do now. It is highly unlikely, given the constraints used by Binkov, that the Soviets could have overrun Frankfurt let alone Bonn. Within a month of the Soviets pulling the trigger they would have been back on their start lines having lost as much as 50% to 75% of their tanks and IFVs, 75% to 85% of their air forces, 50% to 75% of their artillery, and likely 20% to 25% of their Infantry. NATO losses would have been around 20% to 25% in tanks and IFVs, 30% to 35% in the air forces, and 20% to 25% in infantry. NATO was formed to defend its borders through defense in depth and counter offensive. Most NATO losses would occur during offensive operations, but the Soviets would already have taken massive losses and would have been incapable of putting up an effective defense in Germany. NATO would have stopped offensive operations once the borders were secure. There was no NATO mandate to go on the strategic offensive. That would have been unnecessary. Special Forces operating in the Eastern Block countries would have trained freedom fighters (probably most effective in Poland and East Germany) that would have had great successes against the retreating Soviets (a la Afghanistan). The fall of the Soviet Union would have likely occurred in late 1989 or early 1990 instead of in 1991 as the Russian people would have had little to fear from a thoroughly defeated Red Army. EDIT: Clarification

@soapy3500

3 жыл бұрын

I guess he forgot what happened in 1991 when that very same Soviet equipment was put up against the very same US equipment in the gulf. Our tanks cut through the soviets like butter and out AirPower wiped those very same AA missiles off the earth. He’s just using number And guessing.

@greatdude7279

3 жыл бұрын

@@soapy3500 " Our tanks cut through the soviets like butter and out AirPower wiped those very same AA missiles off the earth. He’s just using number And guessing." Wtf are you talking about? Most equipment that Iraqis had were from the 70's export version. Its kinda like saying Abrams tanks are inferior because they are getting blasted in Yemen by goat farmers. In the 90's Soviets not only had T-80's but also t-90's while Iraq had modified t-72's...

@greatdude7279

3 жыл бұрын

Your argument is stupid once you do a research on Warsaw pact and their military platform and once you realize literally every country exports inferior platforms to other countries. You are literally comparing modified T-72's found in Iraq with T-80UM's with reactive armor. I guess Abrams tanks are shit because rebels in Yemen are destroying them left and right....

@soapy3500

3 жыл бұрын

Reactive armor is old tech and no, the rebels in Yemen aren’t destroying Older M1’s left and right. Your argument is stupid once you realize Russia HAS to send their top of the line stuff to other countries because that’s where they get financing. Russia is broken. His argument is valid and your rebuttal is idiotic at back

@soapy3500

3 жыл бұрын

Again, you show your stupidity. No, Abrams aren’t getting blasted in Yemen. The Iraqis didn’t have 70s era tanks. They had current equipment. I love when guys who’ve never been to war speak about it. I saw all that equipment up close. Twice. The Soviet equipment today is no match for NATO, and is wasn’t back then. The Soviets always over sold their equipment. Just like their new “technologically advanced” fighter that will out perform the F-22... If they can ever get the engines to work. That’s why their top of the line fighter is using last gen engines. Dude, you’re a moron and simply talking out of your ass. Delete your account. 😂😂😂

Really excellent video. The late eighties scenario is interesting because this is the era of great technological breakthroughs in weaponry, air craft, tanks, ships and others. I think we would own the skies and seas. What would this mean in a mostly ground war is the question. Great work. Millions of lives lost? The Soviets just don't care which is hard to beat.

Vídeo starts at 0:33

Japan vs China

@kameronjones7139

6 жыл бұрын

Fenris Wolf modern time setting?

@chase5220

6 жыл бұрын

Kameron Jones Yes

@mickeyg7219

6 жыл бұрын

In South Korea vs China, it's concluded that China couldn't take South Korea by amphibious force alone. Japan is over 3 times larger in both land area and population than South Korea, it has stronger industries, and is geographically isolated from the rest of Asia. I think this kind of war will be a draw, neither side could invade each other.

@chase5220

6 жыл бұрын

You're probably right. However, Japan will soon be revisiting its constitutional restrictions on its military (namely the purely defensive role of the Defense Forces). So, give Japan 15-20 years, and this stalemate hypothesis might not be the case anymore.

@mickeyg7219

6 жыл бұрын

Fenris Wolf At least for Binkov's scenario, a country must destroy a significant part of each other's forces or gain strategic piece of land in order to be a victor. In China vs USA video, China lost because its navy is wiped out, but it doesn't lose any land. And even that cost USA a lot, it's extremely unlikely Japan could build up their force large enough to pull off the same feat.

I don't even know what is worser: video itself or comment section below it.

Hey do you think that you have enough data to do a 1945 version of this?

Finally!

If this happened my dad would've probably fought in Europe. He was stationed in germany in 1990 in real life

It would be interesting to see how things would be in the pacific arena if you factored in the ANZUS treaty as we into that scenario as well

What website or download do you use to make these videos???

This is no surprise. The soviet union under Gorbachov was at its weakest. But for most of the cold war their land army had the clear upper hand. It wasn't until the mid 70s that the US tried to challenge them conventionally

@albertoamoruso7711

6 жыл бұрын

noledareminombreaunamaquina Damn Gorbachov. He ruined everything.

@mickeyg7219

6 жыл бұрын

noledareminombreaunamaquina I think it's more relative than absolute, US doesn't have technological advantage in the 40s and 50s, they catch up much later, and much of Europe is still not fully recovered from WW2. It's not that USSR in the 80s is weaker, it's just that NATO outpaced it. 50s USSR isn't going to do any better against 80s NATO, it'll most likely do far worse.

@sircastic959

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but this was coupled with the US having an Advantage in Nukes for about the same Timeframe. Soviets played catchup until then and the US would have "won" a nuclear War before the 70s. So the US would have gone nuclear had Russia started to overwhelm it militarily in Europe. They might even have gone nuclear as soon as Berlin was taken.

@albertoamoruso7711

6 жыл бұрын

Sir Castic Nuke the Soviets? I think anyone would have ordered the beginning of the apocalypse

@sircastic959

6 жыл бұрын

+ Nazi Vampire Eating Babies. You mean you DON`T think, right? Anyway, the USSR nuklear Arsenal was a lot weaker than the US Arsenal at the Beginning of the War (Later when it was larger the US Arsenal was still large enough and coupled with higher precision of rockets it denied the USSR any edge in that Field). If you look at the graph in 1962 you can see that the US would fare much better than the USSR. In Fact, they actually could have "won" a nuclear War, although that "Victory" would have come at the cost of Millions of their own citizens and constituted the largest Genocide in History. Still, had the Red Button been Pushed in 1962, America would have fared much better. In Fact, 1962 was maybe the "best" opportunity. The USSR would not have survived for sure. EDIT: I can´t fucking believe I forgot the Wiki-Page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_arms_race Here is just the picture: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/US_and_USSR_nuclear_stockpiles.svg

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I'd love to watch this cold war scenario in 50's, 60's and 70's

@chasisaac1094

4 жыл бұрын

I sort of know the 70s and I do think that Warsaw Pact would have run over the USA troops. In mid 1980s I think that changed quite a bit. The US troops were not as beat up politically and had good moral.

Man how many weeks of data gathering did you have to do to make a 17:35 video bro?

50 views, 50 likes. Never tell me the odds!

hey can u plz do Chile vs Peru?

Commissar, have you considered simulating Operation Unthinkable?

How do you model this Binkov?