Just looking into laser engraving and I’m very interested in the F1 ultra. Your video is the best I have seen, because I haven’t seen a video that actually went through all the port on the back. Thank you very much for that.!!! Great video!!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Hope to be allowed to put my full review out soon, will be reviewing the machine with over 30 tests so you can base your thoughts on the device based on its real capabilities, not opinion 👍

The intros to the Ultra have been like watching the pony’s lining up at the gate at the Derby 😉 As usual, your evaluation of key elements is on point. My main question is about the predictability of the color engraving, similar to a MOPA. I look forward to your review!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

👍 will be testing

Yours was one of the better intro videos, thanks! Annoying watching vids that just pull up the Xtool page and talk as they scroll thru what we’ve already seen. You are very helpful. Looking forward to your full review!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome machine, dude! Thanks for the overview! 😃 I'm definitely looking forward to the review! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Thanks! You too!

Hello! I am very interested what matals it can cut, what thickness etc. Great channel btw!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Will do! I will test the gambit!

BEST OVERVIEW I have seen yet.... THANK YOU. Will the pre-order price include the convayer do you know?

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

sorry I don't know on that one. It wasn't in my box but many of the xTool machines I have received are always multi box. I should be receiving the conveyor before my next video, THAT is what I am super excited for on this machine.

@markcall9695

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt me too! I wish XTool would say what’s included. Again, thanks for the amazing overview. Great job!

Great Video Brother!!! Question for you...? Can the base plate be removed similiar to the F1? I know the F1 had the little plate that came out, and I can see this version does not have a whole.. Does the entire plate come off?? Thank you again!!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Unfortunately no it is one solid plate. I asked and they said this was made for a different use than the f1… but still would have liked to have it. It’s held on by 6 screws, I’m sure some person will figure out a fun work around for it

Excellent video. Question: is it possible to test the actual power consumption? I'm wondering about how long a battery supply in a craft fair situation. I know they publish data, but I also know that actual use can vary. Thanks. . . now I want one of those, too. 🙂

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Would the data on the power supply brick be able to answer that for you, I can tell you that now, otherwise next video 👍

@ibdavidc

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt Possibly, although the power brick should be oversized to sustain any imaginable load plus a fair bit for safety. And thanks for checking!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

@@ibdavidc 24.0v --10.42A, 250.08W - someone else asked me the same on a Facebook group - he said 250watts nominal and was happy with that (he uses a battery at shows and felt his existing would work fine with this)

With the Rotary will it be able to do a full warp on a large tumbler? All the videos show just doing it on the top half of the tumbler.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Not allowed to answer on that yet, but the bed size is large and I will test it on a 40oz Stanley

can you look at the laser thru the green encloser? or do you need safety goggles for both open and closed?

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Yes, you can look at the laser through the green enclosure without wearing goggles. The only time you need to wear goggles with this machine is if you raise the enclosure up so it is not all the way down the only times you would be doing that would be when using the conveyor system or if you have an item that’s too large for the lid to come down.

Very cool Justin can’t wait to see how it works.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Thanks Jim! yea excited to get playing with it!

@jimrosson6702

Ай бұрын

Ya it looks pretty cool and could be a lot of fun and make a lot of cool stuff

I know XTool has a combo kit of the F1 & the S1. Will they have a discount combo kit with this Ultra version one & the S1? I will definitely sign up for THAT combo kit

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Hmm good one, I will ask!

Ive decided to pull the trigger on a laser for my guitar pedal business. But i want to do more things. All the things, actually, lol. Two questions: 1. since social media is what keeps us all afloat, id love to be able to get a gopro or other camera in there, while the process is going down. Even better option; somehow utilize the camera in the f1 ultra! Do you think its possible? 2. Looks like xtool is making the announcement tomorrow? Will your video come out tomorrow as well?

@BitnerBuilt

22 күн бұрын

Doubt you can use the camera in the unit but if you used the smallest go pro there is a top corner you can sticky mount to. My video will come out one hour after the live stream!

When you get a chance, can you please test how wide a design it can engrave well on a 40 oz tumbler without using the RA2 Pro? Thanks!😊

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Will do!

I’m a leatherworker and had almost settled on the S1 with the IR module until this came out. Now I can’t make up my mind.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Well I will make sure to do plenty of leather tests for you!

@Staren01

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt Would be appreciated. The ability to engrave and cut prototype parts as well as engrave hardware with one machine is actually really interesting. Wasn’t that long ago that metal engraving was completely out of the price range of us one man shops we wanted something that worked with leather too.

Looking to purchase my first laser, x tool is definitely in the lead

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

XTool in my opinion, makes the best lasers for the hobbyist or small business, before you’re getting into incredibly expensive high production machines. They’ve tried to make everything and all in one package, focus heavily on safety, material positioning, and precision, and of course, making their own software is A+ as well!

Will the system (rotary, convertor belt, camera, fume extraction and remote display) work with Light Burn software?

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

I will note that for testing for the next video, cant answer that at the moment

@terryclair2914

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt 👍

Does the bottom come out like the F1? I really want to get a first laser for general crafting and woodworking and I liked that feature to enable me to engrave on larger pieces. I figured this laser could be a good compromise due to its size, speed, and versatility compared to lasers with moving heads. Even if it's not so good for cutting, I could still mark layout super accurately and sand to lines.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

no the bottom is solid without the removable plate the f1 has.

@commentsonthetube14

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt Shoot, that's disappointing. Thanks for the info! I'd be curious what you'd recommend for a first laser for a woodworker/tinkerer/engineer. I don't fully grasp the capabilities and limitations of the different types of lasers. Have done some research and know what's good for what on paper, but there seems to be significant overlap and I don't have direct experience. I've got a 3D printer and some beginner level CAD skills and know I like these kinds of CNC type tools. Just kind of struggling to decide what I'd be able to make best use of. Or maybe the answer is to forget lasers and get a CNC. So many options... Xtool has appealed to me though because I got an Anker printer and I feel like it has allowed me to focus more on making and less on fiddling with the machine. Xtool seems to have a similar mindset. I donno if any CNC companies have made that jump in terms of ease of use yet.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

I have 3d printers, cnc and lasers, 3d is obviously additive, there is a ton of crossover with the cnc and laser though. I started with a cnc and love it but honestly the laser has become my go to (as the work is applicable) if there is a crossover. Its much faster, clean and has more functionality (cut, burn, engrave) if you looking to get into it I highly recommend the xTool S1 - here's a link shorturl.at/hwxE6 - I own pretty much all of xtools machines and this is the best combination of capability, and price. Let me go back though and give you the basic laser rundown. Diode lasers are more affordable and will be able to complete engraving, burning and cutting to a max depth of 3/4in materials based on a 40w, 20w will do a 1/2in material. they cannot do clear glass, clear acrylic and metals (many metal business cards, metal tumblers etc can be done because its stripping the outer paint off, not actually engraving the metal) C02 lasers are much more powerful when cutting and faster at engraving, they can also do acrylic and glass. (my xtool p2 c02 is prob my favorite machine but its pricey so since your starting I prob don't recommend) then you have fiber / ir lasers that can engrave on metals & plasticts . It your looking to get into this as a hobby or side hustle, unless you specifically working with metal acrylic or glass, then the diode is a good pick as it has a lot of functionality and is the lowest cost (S1) the cool thing with the s1 is you can get the 2w ir module to mark / light engrave metal & plastic so that machine checks a lot of boxes. if you get the riser and conveyer feeder too then you can cut and engrave on really long boards and its very precise. I recently did a full video comparison on the s1 vs the wecreat@@commentsonthetube14

@commentsonthetube14

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt got it, thanks so much for the detailed reply! I saw your comparison with the S1 and wecreate, but I felt like I'd miss the camera alignment on the P2 once I looked into the rest of their line. I've had some experiences in a local makerspace where the alignment was miscalibrated and I ended up needing to re-work my piece, which drove me a bit crazy. Does the camera make as much a difference as I think it does? I'm not super budget sensitive if it's a good machine. Anyway, I really appreciate the content you're putting out and I'll definitely use your link if I end up buying an xtool!

A cool thing to do with lasers: You can 'engrave' 3d prints to get rid of the pigment, giving you a really nice label on things.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Very cool, just watched a video on it 👍

how deep can you cut into stone? like those brass coin embossing but on a regular outside rock

@BitnerBuilt

22 күн бұрын

Well depends on what the stone is - my video will be out after their livestream tomorrow - I do slate and it’s 👍👍

@bernardthongvanh5613

20 күн бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt please try various common stone :p :D

Hi! I was checking, does the bottom come out like the F1?

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

It does not it’s one solid piece though it is only held in place by six screws. I wonder if some creative people are going to make their own base

Extras belt extender, smoke purification I’d like to know what the cost is complete system.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Will do 👍

I just want to know if I can cut pet tags out of say 2mm aluminium?

@BitnerBuilt

27 күн бұрын

I ran that test. The video will be coming out soon.

I wish I knew a guy local to me with a laser. My dado stack chippers are annoying to identify by comparing the carbide width every time. Just want an A B C on them.

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Well you just gave me a great thing to engrave in the video, always felt the same about my stack!

Can the bottom of the Ultra be removed so you can engrave/cut on a larger surface by resting the machine on it? Great Vid!!

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

No the base is solid on this one. There must be a reason the didn’t leave it open like the smaller f1, I will find out. Obviously you can’t lift it but being able to set it on a large item would have been good

@angelocigna8323

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt Thanks for the reply and I apologize for the duplicate question as I now see you answered it already. I feel like that is a major design flaw as the fixed base removes a ton of functionality. Think about engraving in the middle of any kind of larger tile, metal plates, laptop lids or things that are already assembled that wont fit under the base. Who wouldn't want to put this on an end table and add something that would make a boring piece of furniture a conversation piece. The user is now completely restricted. I put my deposit down thinking it must be a feature since it was available on the older/smaller version but I think now I will likely request a refund.

@ZoraRossouw

Ай бұрын

@@angelocigna8323 may have been for safety.

@angelocigna8323

Ай бұрын

​​@@ZoraRossouwabsolutely possible. I just can't imagine there is no alternative outside of a fixed base. It's just a major disappointment for me. I had been considering the F1 for months but the limited workspace reduced is usefulness to me to the point I could not warrant the purchase. So I was very excited about the ultra, now not so much. EDIT: I reached out to xtool and got this response. Dear Customer, Thank you for reaching out to us. We understand that the removable baseplate feature is important to you. Rest assured, the xTool Ultra product also comes with a removable baseplate similar to the xTool F1. This feature allows for easy removal of the baseplate, enabling flexibility in engraving various objects. If you have any further questions about the xTool Ultra or need assistance with anything else, feel free to ask.

Where does the rotary and conveyor belt plug in? USB?

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

there are two accessory ports on the side of the machine by the power button and the emergency stop

@terryclair2914

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt Thank you...

I actually have a question about the original F1. For now. The Ultra is 100% on my radar, but in the meantime... I cannot figure out glass marking for some reason. I've tried brushing paint (too gloppy), and sparying paint (weirdly difficult to remove, and the glass looks almost chipped, and not reliably homogeneous). I am in Spain and cannot get Brilliance sprays here (wait that might be for metals) or other items American youtubers recommend.... I think some glass may be easier to engrave (versus crack) than others, but... I can't figure it out. What is the best thing to cover the glass for reliable etching, and what are reliable settings to start with? I ran a test grid but none of the squares engraved evenly. Am I correct that thinner and thicker glass will need different settings? Do I need to keep the glass from getting too hot? Everything I've tried so far has caused cracks in the thinner glass. It's doing my head in. But if I can figure it out, I already have a batch order on handshake waiting for me. Also, same questions for glazed ceramic. I have the settings down for Matte finishes, but the glaze... always cracks. What am I doing wrong? 😅 Thank you for taking the time to actually respond to our comments. Also, ooh I cant wait to see your reviews for the ultra. I am most interested in the automatic topography mapping (I assume that it has this, like the P2, since it has the camera, no?), and the conveyor batching capabilities. And please, please, I want to see the embossing and learn what metals it can cut, to what thicknesses. And the TIMES! I've abandoned engraving metals because they take so long, and only use scoring. But from 2w IR to 20w Fiber? I'd like to see the times. Thanks again 🤗

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Quite the long one! Ok great ideas for tests will do. On the glass cracking and probs engraving. Where you are in the world (latitude humidity etc) can effect these things so even these setting you might need to tweak . Look at the page I linked below, there is a great repository of settings for the f1 that was compiled. Great reference. On the marking material, you can play with tempura paint (thin it with water and apply 6 coats) you can use a heat gun to dry it faster. Chalk paint or even black washable marker can work. Every glass is different, it might have some content that will heat faster than would glass without it etc. cracking if most often caused by heat, solutions to that are applying water to the glass, dish soap, a wet paper towel that you lay over it and engrave through. Also incorrect laser focus (height) can attribute to it. docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSdAwKiqysBGhNHt92zkdQx_zM42m2KCEQfV7UF0LxsoHiIhirM3c1BF4LvTu1-PU8_UH-fV176X_t_/pub?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0qAKt7D3A-2u0ul-YwsU6HslMHGE6b852iR8JtMI7OUH3f0AfwhTkW1Tg_aem_AZsMuMPv0HvBA4dKY2zwwcK6e_gNCCGOLZCeRRp9HJWgqIYK9impCILEG62M-SIc3zQfUFfnJYo4sRVH7oaq5Sj7#h.894do2a511qb

@DanDann

Ай бұрын

@BitnerBuilt thank you so much. This is fantastic, and I will try. With the water, soap, paper towel, etc, I saw a video where someone engraved through ONLY that (didn't work for me). Are you suggesting I lay a soapy paper towel OVER the tempura paint, chalk paint, permanent marker?? Thanks again

Is the fiber source truly a fiber? What is the source (jpt... raycus... max etc)

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

The only technical on that that I know at the moment is it is a Q switched fiber Laser

Will be interested on how they price this..looks expensive :-).

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Fibers are usually more expensive lasers, they have their pricing posted on the pre-order page

Does the floor come out of the f1 ultra

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

The floor currently does not come out of this model like a smaller F1, I currently have an email into them inquiring about this

You are such a 'tease'. I am in the market for a fiber laser....and this fits the bill...At 20 watts we know it will do all the engraving and etching that's expected. BUUUT...can you truly engrave coins with this 20-watt machine. That is the question....Great content...Looking forward to the full review...

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

I have a big stack of coins that I will be testing on the full review 👍

@digitaldoom3593

Ай бұрын

It should do coins just fine just gonna take more passes compared to 30 50.100watt

What is the official release date?

@BitnerBuilt

29 күн бұрын

They will be putting out a live stream to fully announce it and show it off “ soon”

Socks and underwear. The only things that your kids are going to need for their birthday and Christmas presents. 🤣🤣🤣

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

😅

It’s pretty clear all of the reviewers that received the ultra to review were bound not to physically provide a review until a set date. All the reviewers state the same similar thing. ‘I’ll test this in the coming weeks “ or “in my next video I can’t wait to get using this”. What maker, laser nut, general interest influencer would not immediately not stay up all night and produce even a rudimentary initial use video. They are all under some restriction. Ok. I’m not bashing any of the reviewers. Really. I’m not. I just think it should be clear that there is a reason xtools put this restriction in place. Either they fear a let down on the hype or this is simply the hype mechanism or something else. It should just be obvious that there is a play here

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

It was a teaser “to create buzz” about it until they put out their first full video on it (I’m allowed to publish my full review on it 1 hr later) - originally we we’re just going to be not allowed to post until that announcement but I personally asked can I do a teaser, (my idea was a 1min short just hinting at a few things coming, machine under a cloth) they liked the idea and surprisingly let us say a lot more than I would have thought. And put out the announcement page to go with it. But they want to be the ones to show it off first (understandable)

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

You can specifically blame me if you like as I’m the one who asked 😂

@LivinginTHog

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt if as you say then it is the third case of “something else” which is unintended aspect of promotion. Thanks for replying. Again, not bashing the reviewers here.

why not run the machine tho? 🙈🤷‍♂️ whats the selling point of it not to show off what it can, is that a limitation from xtool?

@BitnerBuilt

Ай бұрын

Because I was not allowed to. They will be showing off the machine first when it’s fully announced but there were lots of questions that were on the machine itself that I was at least able to address for people (I was reading the q’s in the Facebook groups people had)

@Benjamin-vx2ot

Ай бұрын

@@BitnerBuilt thx, looking forward 😊