World Record Progression: NES Tetris No Piece Rotation
A record that stood dormant for potentially decades got tied and shattered repeatedly over a very short period of time. This is the story of how it happened.
Google doc of Timeline and Links to videos contained in the progression of the world record: docs.google.com/document/d/1N...
Check out the current world record holder's twitch page: / zoltan_brc
Music used, in order:
HOME - Before the Night • HOME - Before The Night
Self-made Tetris Theme B remix
HOME - Mind • HOME - mind
HOME - Sleep • HOME - Sleep
Self-made Tetris Theme C remix
Teknoaxe - Ascent to the Station • Teknoaxe - Ascent To T...
White Bat Audio - End Credits • Free Chill Synthwave M...
Self-made Tetris Theme C space remix
EVA - The End • EVA - The End [Synthwa...
Lakey Inspired - 5 Minute Call • LAKEY INSPIRED 5 Min ...
My Twitch: / agamescout
Пікірлер: 556
This is a HUGE update video to the No Piece Rotation video I made last month! Thanks especially to Kirby703 for pitching the concept of this video to me and helping organize the timeline of records. Additional thanks to HydrantDude, B14NK, and Kofi for helping fill in the gaps for the early months, and to the guest interviewees for coming on! Check out all the videos in the google doc in the description.
@spidernh
3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: When a new world record is set for this category, if you know (like from discord or something), you could put it at the end of this pinned comment.
@Little_Mac_12127
3 жыл бұрын
I think -outdated- wr of 29 lines on PAL version by poet13 deserve to be mentioned - kzread.info/dash/bejne/im2Vt5ZsqcXPqJs.html
@ZinbobDan
3 жыл бұрын
@R Russell another comment in here mentioned that it is based on the timing of the previous piece locking down. So your current piece and next piece are generated, then the RNG determines the following next piece based on the internal clock when the current piece locks; the next piece becomes the current piece, and the newly generated next piece gets queued up.
@jenokiss1959
3 жыл бұрын
@@glhf5441 crazy he got 41 here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/omWbpsyOhdzUodo.html
@6yjjk
3 жыл бұрын
What's the WR for no rotation no next box? :D
great vid as always!! honored to be featured here!
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
thanks, was an honor to have you!
@Finnyan
3 жыл бұрын
Nice 26 lines! I didn't even think no rotation runs were possible! Hopefully you keep it up and have fun playing tetris!
@Razorcarl
3 жыл бұрын
respecc
@Devoid0010
3 жыл бұрын
le wot
@LRAStartFox
3 жыл бұрын
Absolute giga Chad
Idea: One-Rotation: You must rotate every piece exactly once. It's up to you whether it's clockwise our counterclockwise. But every piece must be rotated once. Not zero times, not two or more, exactly once.
@saxo689
3 жыл бұрын
Square block would be easy
3 жыл бұрын
I've tried it out! Check out the results
@2chill2bbored72
3 жыл бұрын
@ OH THE GUY WHO WAS IN THE VID
@69420fart
2 жыл бұрын
@ ngl its hilarious how you just appeared out of nowhere in this comment
@milkyproduxions
2 жыл бұрын
that's just how i regularly play
So when I was a kid that doesn't understand how to turn pieces I wasn't dumb, I was training for world record
@respunculesbruh7498
3 жыл бұрын
"When I was a kid" still has a Minecraft profile picture
@Mysda_
3 жыл бұрын
@@respunculesbruh7498 I'm 21, I will not change my picture to a random fish with a channel that mostly have Minecraft videos. Also minecraft isn't only for kids, check out ilmango, it's literally engineering in minecraft.
@RedStone576
3 жыл бұрын
oohhhh shittt
@AndrewTaylorNintyuk
3 жыл бұрын
@@respunculesbruh7498 You older than you think my dude
@MTWas
3 жыл бұрын
Or when you try to make a tetris clone but can't figure out how the rotation in tetris works
> 4 lines into the kill screen, aka lvl 2 Holy shit, that had me in stitches
@eavyeavy2864
Жыл бұрын
Not 4chan, > useless
10:38 "With NES, it's easy, maybe you'll just get squares forever" **laughs in squares only TAS I did once for april fools**
@hellboy19991
3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that, that piece manipulation would have made me go insane...
@Oshisaure
3 жыл бұрын
@@hellboy19991 To be fair most of it was made through a script. After looking at how the RNG works, I managed to make something predicting the next piece if your current piece locks on the current frame, then i turned it into something that can basically play itself for a while and record the inputs.
@Josuh
3 жыл бұрын
I remember that video, it was truly a delight to watch
@gnochhuos645
3 жыл бұрын
Oh it’s the O-spin god
@elemenopi9239
3 жыл бұрын
YOOO ITS THE ELEVATOR GUY
Update: Zoltan has gotten 63 lines, with a new strategy, only building a well on the right side, to burn more in the left.
@chrislaw4189
Жыл бұрын
72 actually
@amberlandball
Жыл бұрын
@@chrislaw4189 ohh ok. this is 3 months ago so thx for da update
that’s crazy how a random player just got an insane record
@ibtonyu2archives134
3 жыл бұрын
We were all random players before we connected
@garorade
3 жыл бұрын
@@ibtonyu2archives134 tru
@EliosMoonElios
3 жыл бұрын
Not random player merely a player out of the community.
@Razorcarl
3 жыл бұрын
@@ibtonyu2archives134 true
@afbanjagjafdbxcvbrtjwsasdg2825
3 жыл бұрын
not an insane record, the lady pruved that this category is trivial for 7bag and random
Masterpiece! Ty for the interview!
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
thanks again for sharing your strategies! good luck with the livestreams
@turosfagyi
3 жыл бұрын
szép volt, és így tovább! a magyar hangsávot meg csak mi értjük ;)
3 жыл бұрын
@@turosfagyi pontosan, ékes nyelvünk gyönyörű kifejezőképsségét terjesztem :) Hogy a 150 ezer klippből pont ezt tette bele :D
@roygoodhand1301
3 жыл бұрын
You are the Matt Turk of Tetris.
@markoadam6619
3 жыл бұрын
lol GG
holy shit, is Kirby a mathematician? because "Proving that 7-bag Tetris is Infinitely Doable with No Rotation" totally sounds like a math paper haha
@silpheedTandy
3 жыл бұрын
i thought that was really cool, too :)
@mingzeyu7525
3 жыл бұрын
and she use the world "trivial" which is very typical of mathematician/students
@zetahurley294
3 жыл бұрын
Lol, weirder papers have been published
@Sorestlor
3 жыл бұрын
There was a paper on the spontaneous tangling of string. Someone really wanted to figure out why their earphone cords kept tangling.
@calinguga
3 жыл бұрын
@@mingzeyu7525 also mentioned a "parity problem". just the deal of wanting to publish a proof pretty much gives her away :)
- attempts meme category in NES Tetris - gets WR after third attempt *surprised pikachu*
calling level 2 the killscreen?? smh more like the mullen screen am I right
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
True that
@stefangrosser6466
3 жыл бұрын
I like how its clear you study math by saying something is 'not trivial'
@spinningchurro
3 жыл бұрын
@Kirby703 it’s so cool that you represent the trans community in such a positive light! You go girl!
@AmbitionIsaMust115
3 жыл бұрын
Nice maths btw
Yo so technically Hannah S. Was the first person to break the old record from the 90s
@patrickhector
3 жыл бұрын
It's not really a record if it wasn't, you know, recorded
@Jono997
3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhector In that case the original record itself is not counted.
@truthsmiles
3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhector I think we have to allow some leeway for really old (pre-2000) records being based on “honor” because as crazy as it seems by today’s standards, very few people recorded anything back then.
I love the little animation of Kirby hitting the buttons on the NES controller. So cute! I remember seeing that comment on your last video with the new record, amazing how many people attempted the category because of your vid. Keep doing what you do!
@Kirby703
3 жыл бұрын
Even better... it displays what buttons I'm currently pressing :o
@skyjoe55
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kirby703 Thats so cool!
@technospyform1578
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kirby703 👍
@69420fart
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kirby703 i love how all the people in this video appear in random comments
Hannah is the GOAT. she just went and got the record like its no big deal😂
I'm VERY new to tetris. I'm 26, never played tetris until I was 25. I just play a rom on my laptop. High score was 150,000ish. Haven't played in a while but I decided to try no rotation for about an hour. The most lines I could get was about 11. I go back to normal tetris, and it all seems so much easier. First try I PD'd with 220,000 lol.
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
that's awesome! yeah I've heard that no-rotation can help you recognize horizontal burns you otherwise wouldn't think about
@cadekachelmeier7251
3 жыл бұрын
You took off your weighted clothing.
@Jupiter__001_
3 жыл бұрын
@@cadekachelmeier7251 What a great analogy lol
@xismxist
3 жыл бұрын
thats good ;) i got 13 lines with no rotations (started at 0)
@flaccidwhiskey3758
2 жыл бұрын
You should try some of the guideline games like Puyo Puyo Tetris
Fun fact: Your no rotations videos was the push that had me get the game for myself!
lol He's now at 72 lines.
Wow, that Kirby703 infinite sequence proof is great. Tetris people are crazy. Very fun video.
@Kirby703
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was fun to make, for sure. =) I feel like I should consider the *worst* case luck in a future proof... NES is proven to be a topout, but I wonder about 7-bag.
@medea6519
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kirby703 I will look out for it. As a player who grew up relying on dumb intuition, and just throwing pieces around until something works, it's fascinating to now watch players thinking deeply about the game.
@williambarnes5023
3 жыл бұрын
MAAAAAAAAAATH
@mmmmmmmmmmmmm
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kirby703 Yes, I really want to see that. That was my immediate thought when he was explaining what you proved.
@xyz.anonymous
Жыл бұрын
@@Kirby703 I would love to see you make videos on Tetris the way Pannen makes videos on Super Mario 64
I remember when I got my GameBoy back in the 90s and it came with Tetris. At first when I started playing it, I didn't realize you could rotate the pieces. So I inadvertently played no rotation Tetris for several days.
I am not even involved with the competitive Tetris scene, but I love these periodic check-ins with different world records. In particular I like the interviews and visual demonstrations of different strategies. I can tell there's a lot of work going into that and I appreciate it. Well done!
*'Home - We're Finally Landing' starts playing*
@balbar_b
3 жыл бұрын
(Angry SummoningSalt fan noises)
YEAH I'M IN THE VIDEO! 4:59~5:06 Thank you aGameScout :D
4:53 did your 19-5 video not teach you anything about ""inadvertently"" setting off a new chain of WR attempts on niche high score categories
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
I expected maybe there would be a little bump but not like this
@Dan_d00d
3 жыл бұрын
@@aGameScout this more than anything is a great testament to not only your video production quality, likability, and topics, but how well you have cemented yourself as an authority in the field for classic tetris for news and theory. Self achieved and well deserved. Keep going, you are the next evolution a decade on from Robin et al , with the current new media formats.
@Dan_d00d
3 жыл бұрын
@@aGameScout Also, good stuff for showing Ben Mullen some love . he has been a character and so intriguing all the way since Ecstasy . Id love to see you do some mini doco on any of the people from then. And i wont even mention trying to land Thor.
@kubastachu9860
3 жыл бұрын
@@aGameScout turns out you are Classic Tetris influencer
@Swagpion
3 жыл бұрын
Hey a spark in the community is good
BOOM! Line for ____________________________
@TimofeyMarko
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@teamofwinter8128
3 жыл бұрын
Joseph
> Entire video is about not rotating pieces > Outro animation features a t-spin Guys, Blue is the Impostor (But seriously, was looking forward to this and it was great!)
This is seriously one of my favourite channels right now. Content and production quality are on par or even better than some much bigger channels.
It's nice to know that a guy from my own humble country of Hungary holds the world record. Props to Zoltán.
Well done aGameScout! Once again a great video and it must be very satisfying for you to know that your videos about make a serious mark on the game now. A lot of players are being encouraged to play Tetris and records are being broken, just because you made a video about them. That must be a real nice motivation to keep the weekly going. Well done! Well done! Congratz!
great coverage of a neat tetris niche. Thanks for the video!
Boom, double for Zoltan!
I just saw zoltan breaking the new record at 50 lines of no rotation
@nagylevente5608
2 жыл бұрын
59 exactly now
@ryanamburgy2791
2 жыл бұрын
63 now
@JuanDavid0
Жыл бұрын
72 exactly now
I was so shocked to hear Riviclia’s name. If you don’t know him but are familiar with osu! go look at some of his plays on his KZread channel. Or if you aren’t familiar with osu!, they are ridiculously impressive regardless
@ComedyVault101
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was looking for a comment like this. I was like, is it THAT Riviclia? There couldn't be another one. And sure enough it is. What a legend.
@jimothyjimothy1
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah rivi is a beast in both osu and tetris
@NotAghostSpeedruns
3 жыл бұрын
Same here. He's one of my favorite players.
@pnguyen379
3 жыл бұрын
Between Riviclia and Doremy/Ekoro I feel like there's a surprising overlap between these communities.
@jimothyjimothy1
3 жыл бұрын
@@pnguyen379 sadly there is
It's funny: I watch these videos as part of my combined fascination with Tetris as well as my desire to learn how to play it at a relatively skilled-level, and yet as I watch these videos (and I watch them all), and I see the caliber of the world's greatest (including you, aGameScout), I literally feel like the more information I see and learn, the less I know. haha That said, I love this channel and am excited when a new one populated on my feed.
Even if this vid came a little late this is still really good content keep it up man
EA's Tetris before you purchase the rotation DLC
@jayangel1879
3 жыл бұрын
Chiiiilll hahahhhaha
@killerbug05
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@ianh1504
3 жыл бұрын
They'll give you 20 free rotations then you can purchase more in the store or spin the tetris wheel for a chance to win some
i have been watching your channel and i cant stop. im already practiceing a puyo puyo tetris (i cant afford a NES and am too scared to try to get a rom) this re introduced me to tetris and i am glad for that.
When I got tetris for Christmas as a kid many many years ago, I didn't realize you could rotate the pieces. It seemed impossible to get anywhere near the default "high scores". I quickly dismissed it as a garbage game but then it occured to me that maybe you could rotate. Picked it back up, rotated, and I was hooked.
4am but still up for you hi from france !!!! one of the greatest content on yt
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
As i was watching the previous video i knew it would be really short time until you would have to make a followup Thank you to all the record breakers
Magyarország megemlítve!!! Hajrá Zoli!
S and Z are different pieces because you can't turn a S into a Z with rotation only (you can with reflection), someone could, create a nes tetris romhack made for no rotation (or just with a extra no rotation mode), where it has every piece variant possible (they are called Fixed tetrominoes and there are 19 of them en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetromino#Fixed_tetrominoes)
@vanderkarl3927
3 жыл бұрын
That was a weird way of phrasing it but I agree, I'd love to see fixed-piece tetris!
@poudink5791
3 жыл бұрын
@@BerserkerKong02 clearly you didn't get the original comment
Inb4 this blows up. Great video, man!
Epic video as always! This makes me wanna give it a try but 35 lines is very intimidating haha
Nem is tudtam, hogy Tetris-ben van kiemelkedő magyar játékos... Hajrá Zoltán!
Man i love seeing this guy slowly decent into a tetris addiction, not that its a bad thing
Incoming non rotation World championship battle round!
7:37 he literally says "cum" in hungarian lmao, i was not ready for that in a aGameScout video
Amazing vid!
if you open your eyes any wider, you might just look straight into my soul! [video is fantastic, thank you]
Kirby you're a legend
This man deserves more subs
great video!
wait for the Tas-makers hearing of this. They'll propably be able to get a max score without rotating...
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
it's already been done...all squares haha
Me reading the thumbnail: “Is this a joke?” Me 10 seconds into video: “This is SO GOOD.”
This is my new favorite class of Classic Tetris. First it was DAS and then Hyper tapping which tend toward the twitch aspect of gameplay. With NoRo, it seems more like strategy. There is RNG in both but the latter is just now starting to be studied.
It would be cool if someone could mod the game so that each piece spawns with a random rotation.
wait is this an updated video PogChamp
aGameScout is the reason most Tetris world records are moving fast.
Perfect clear? Where's the garbage?
damn i always forget you're a small channel with extremely great quality :/
I THOUGHT YOU WERE HANK GREEN UNTIL YOUR FACE SHOWED UP
"unless you have a time macine" *laughs in wayback macine*
@archienoir
2 жыл бұрын
Machine*
No Rotation seems like a fun category for Tetris novices playing with friends of a higher skill levels. It seems like a great leveler where, at least in the beginning, anyone could win
it must be hard to fight that urge to rotate the pieces! I'm feeling the irresistible urge to rotate them even just watching the video lol
no rotation then: who will get the next world record? no rotation now: when will zoltan get the next world record?
@nagylevente5608
2 жыл бұрын
Poet got 47 so he is in the race too
this zoltan guy is big brain
Thia is literally someone who broke to rotate keys and is waiting for the new controller
Imagine someone clearing 45 lines, and getting disqualified for accidentally rotating a square piece
I love the game challenge community Game designers: here's the core of the gameplay for our game Game challenge community: okay but what if just... didn't?
Change the intro to T-spin productions. Keep the animation obviously. That's a brand right there...
Oh, I wouldn't have expected to appear in this video :-D
3 жыл бұрын
But you made it! :)
I’ve never played competitively, but off and on I’ve been playing since I was a kid! I’ll definitely give the no rotation game a go at some point! @aGameScout I’ll definitely be following the page and picking this back up!
Great video. I'm currently playing it.
3 жыл бұрын
Watch out for the new stacking method!
Y'all are cracked tbh
Im pretty sure a couple of hours later someone will break the record again...
@61O_42
3 жыл бұрын
Actually my personal best is 9 lines in a mobile emulator, so I have a lot of work if i wanna do something here lol
@jenokiss1959
3 жыл бұрын
@@61O_42 he did it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/omWbpsyOhdzUodo.html
Awesome :D
9:19 i love her input display
Wellp It’s getting more crazier.
Wow! That's just incredible if you stop & think about it for a second; World Records were being set SO frequently there for a minute, that people were announcing them via the comment section in an already outdated video about said world record chase, that had JUST been uploaded a couple days prior... 😲 That's just bonkers!
with rng and skill maybe some crazy records are possible
You should probably do more of these kinds of wr progression vids. How about a speedrun wr progression.
I wonder if they have this category for other puzzle games, like Dr Mario or Puyo Puyo
I got 7 lines after a few attempts and i'm quite happy with that lol. It's a totally different challenge, I feel like you need to think of stacking them horizontally, not vertically
i cant believe this is 7 months ago
Didn't expect Riviclia to be mention in this video
Take a shot every time david blinks
OMG ME AND HANNA GOT INTO TETRIS THE EXACT SAME WAY. I got into Tetris fall of 2018 at like 2 in the morning studying when I needed a mindless video and ended up watching Scout's documentary and just binged hours of Tetris afterward xD
zoltan really said just 4wide
Yes gamescout video! :)
Help, i've dug into a KZread rabbit hole
my man moo featured in the vid, neat
I don’t have NES Tetris but I do have Tetris effect. Imma try this :)
Alternate title: WR for playing Tetris like the O AI from PPT.
@flaccidwhiskey3758
2 жыл бұрын
Does O not rotate? I thought that was Skeleton T's thing in the Puyo series.
Büszke vagyok Zoltánra :D
Man this category really exploded since your last video about this topic.
@jenokiss1959
3 жыл бұрын
now 41 is the wr: kzread.info/dash/bejne/omWbpsyOhdzUodo.html
@PieceDependencyPodcast
3 жыл бұрын
@@jenokiss1959 I saw it! That is amazing!
@jenokiss1959
3 жыл бұрын
@@PieceDependencyPodcast Wait untill sy breaks 50, as the new AI predicts that it will happen
What about a no-rotation where every rotation still spawns? As in, the line would have horizontal and vertical spawns, etc.?
I got 42 lines no rotation. I am legend
@triskai
2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to ask... I'm thinking about finally putting together a leaderboard spreadsheet for this, do you happen to have a video or screenshot or anything of your 42-line run (or even just somewhere besides here where you posted that you did it)? I'd love to add you if so, I haven't seen more than a couple people with 40+ lines so that's pretty special
Now im feeling a little motivated
2 жыл бұрын
I am giving you some extra fuel for motivation
You should do a video of your nes tetris progression
@aGameScout
3 жыл бұрын
700k video was kind of that! One day I will probably do a game analysis of my first ever game on console, since I still have the footage lol. But it is mostly just a lot of misdrops