Words and Language -- the (maybe) INFP edition

Do the ideas here resonate with your own relationship to words and language? I've cobbled together these thoughts based on some conversations and contemplation -- but not many other perspectives. If you have your own ideas or opinions on the topic that you are comfortable sharing, I think that'd be interesting.
00:00 Introduction - about words, use of language, and (I think) INFPs.
00:49 xNFx and 'word magic'.
01:53 Words mean things - but there is a relationship between feelings and logic.
02:33 So, in my case, I'm dealing with many possibilities what happens next (Ne) and feel through what to say (Fi) -- that's internal, slow, disconnected from the viewer's experience. I know I have a cadence/delivery that's dull on its surface. I blame the process...
03:15 *there are times when applying logic and rationale aligns and 'feels' right*. It's got to be very annoying for some thinking types to deal with a type that applies logic when they value their point... and dismisses logic elsewhere.
05:17 Therefore, I try to be careful in what I say.
At 5:30 (how's this for meta): I mis-spoke that I sometimes put corrections/errata in the comments sections of videos. That was wrong -- I put clarifications (just like this one) in the Description section.
At 05:45 when I said "Fi is not necessarily always correct", I mean: going through feeling to get at logic, means my use of logic ain't robust or complete.
05:55 Since I'm careful in what I say, I'm down to discuss further if there are questions or challenges to what I've said (caveat: provided these are in good faith, and within the tough limitations of the comments section; it's really hard to trade off complex ideas in the comments format).
06:37 This (slow processing time) makes KZread videos a tough format for me. I do most of my videos live in one long take and off the cuff. There's no opportunity to 'tap out'.
07:40 This (slow processing time) is why I prefer to write emails. And thank you to anybody who's put up with my emails. It lets me feel out a response over hour(s). Here's why it's important (and time consuming, and gratifying) to me.
09:36 Writing lets me build a framework around an idea, using language and words. It's a feedback loop, putting form to feeling, and drawing feeling from the form.
11:59 ... this is a temporary medium, then it's gone, but the ideas are there to be evolved from the next time something similar comes up.
13:00 Start the wrap: I don't have mastery over delivering monologues. I'm not good at this KZread thing compared to many others.
14:05 Anyone benefits from building up words and language. The Ne-Si (Si-Ne) stack does benefit greatly from building up language, because words have power.
15:55 Endgedanke
#infp

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  • @olderinfpinsights
    @olderinfpinsights13 күн бұрын

    Nice topic Dulles. Didn't get to the end (Should be doing something else right now but your vid distracted me --in a good way). Thought I'd give one "take" on words which do matter. I love how words are used and listen to how ppl use them as an NF. One small example that does convey large meaning imho is using "feel" and "think" in the same context. I wasn't taught to "feel" growing up so I naturally say I "think" so and so, even if feelings are involved. When I went back to school to become a counselor, we were taught to use the word "feel" instead to help facilitate a bond with the client. So, I deliberately use the word "feel" more instead even if I'm not "feeling" what I'm saying. So, there's that too. Words do matter and I do "think"--yes think here--that NFs may tend to notice these nuances more than others. Hope you're well and good to see you again online.

  • @dulles1969

    @dulles1969

    12 күн бұрын

    Hi Dee, and thank you! I'm trying to carve out more time again for posting stuff. "Feel" vs. "think" are tricky, but I think (or feel?) it's really nice that you were a counselor for a time. I know you've talked about different times in your life -- with the kids and family situation, that must have been a difficult and stressful time, as if getting through school to become a counselor wasn't stressful enough (but all's well that ends well). I saw you're going to have a follow-up with Jack/Socionics -- I won't be able to make it live (there is lots of backlog leading to the Mem Day Holiday weekend), but am looking forward to catching the replay.

  • @gorvo31
    @gorvo3113 күн бұрын

    Hey Dulles, Well am right there with you on "I don't talk like a regular person...I can, sort of..." ☺ Well as per sister Bufo's "Effin ineffable", you, her, Ingrid and others do so well at conveying these things as close as you can...polishing the mirror and holding it at just the right angle to convey an image...this stuff can be hard though...especially in this medium indeed...I've been at it for nearly 11 years and who knows what I'm saying really anymore, if anything, ha. I love the long form, would enjoy emailing with you , I believe. You're giving us more to think and rethink about, and that's always good. 🙂-Carm

  • @dulles1969

    @dulles1969

    12 күн бұрын

    Hi Carm! I'll try a back channel to say hello. 😉 The wonder of what you do, and this is important, is that you don't need to talk about functions, or about what it means to be an INFP, or any of that. You just demonstrate it simply and elegantly, in the way that you calmly and kindly do your thing on your channel. Your videos are great!! It's more valuable out there in the world for you to share your aural explorations. Most people don't know this independent music exists. Thanks to your call-outs I've heard some great music and some good music based. Even some artists who are less accessible are still an interesting and worthwhile listen, to expand the repertoire. Dangit, I haven't yet watched nearly enough of your videos.

  • @gorvo31

    @gorvo31

    11 күн бұрын

    @@dulles1969 Thank you so much for all that! And I'm glad you're finding some music through these that's worth hearing. ☺

  • @MichelleMy_Unwell
    @MichelleMy_Unwell13 күн бұрын

    I am so thankful for this peek into an INFP mind. I am always so curious about dominant functions and how other people see the world. I (an INFJ) am trying to fully understand what it’s like to be an Fi dom. I’m just wondering what you mean when you “feel out” what you should say or how you want the “meanings to be clear”. Is it as simple as just explaining your personal position on a matter or is it more complicated? I found it really lovely when you talked about wanting to “dwell in your emotional reactions” for a while before you express yourself verbally. That’s really beautiful and really helps me understand my INFP friends a little bit better. Thank you!!

  • @dulles1969

    @dulles1969

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you that's very kind! I can say ISFP and INFP go in different directions (my wife is an ISFP). FiSe is straight input output. Perceivefeelrespond. FiNe chases its own tail. Ideaevaluate. Another way of describing "feel out" would be: Does something 'sit well'? Coming up short on good examples. There's a typing channel that often asks people: "How would you like to be remembered?" it's discordant (to me) when I consider that I would take up peoples' headspace after I'm gone. So maybe in the press of the moment, the most right-feeling thing might be some ramble that genes are like biological memory so that should be enough to give of ourselves to the future. But then later that also feels 'off', so I'll spend the next (indeterminate time period) tinkering on and off about what feels most correct -- the right-sitting answer. And having come up with a possible indignant answer I can explore how taking that response might have felt, a possible even more cringe answer, how that might have gone, a particularly clever answer how this may have felt. And it is assembling ideas for the sake of it. If it sticks around, a month later seemingly out of nowhere comes a nuanced meditation about how memories can be seen as part of a burden of responsibility and social obligation. That, or I'll talk about accidentally getting my finger stuck in my nose (sorry, dumb joke to make the point -- building elaborate castles in the sand only for the tide to come back in and wash it away again). There is something about writing in non-realtime. The ability to sit with an idea, tune out and spend indefinite time adrift, feeling out the idea and wherever it leads, then refocus, then do it all again. To me that's a very pleasant experience.

  • @MichelleMy_Unwell

    @MichelleMy_Unwell

    9 күн бұрын

    @@dulles1969 Sorry, I had to sit with this for a bit and I’m still sitting with it haha! I am asking other Fi users in my life about what you said and they light up when I read it because it makes so much sense to them hahaha but I’m getting more and more elaboration and it’s been great. I’m going to brush up on my Jungian theory about Fi as well and see if I can make sense of all of this great information. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain . There are some topics you brought up in your explanation that have also intrigued me so thank you for giving me those extra little golden nuggets of inspiration haha

  • @dulles1969

    @dulles1969

    5 күн бұрын

    @@MichelleMy_Unwell thank you so much for letting me know. 🙏 It's very gratifying if any content ends up being actually useful!