My first plane was a Stanley No. 5 with cracked handle. When building a Moravian bench with a laminated Southern Yellow pine top I was going to use a router sled to flatten. I looked at my No. 5 and said "I am going to give it a go". I put an edge on the blade and went at it, it was one of the best workouts I ever had. The top came out super flat and from that moment I realized I was going to be a hand tool wood worker.

This is an excellent example of how important--and powerful--good sharpening is.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Sharpening is the MOST important thing for sure!

I've been a cabinet maker for 30plus years, and I've bought brand new Stanley (made in England) as well as old Stanleys and Records. I've also bought new Veritas and Lie Nielson as well as second-hand ones. I love every one of them.

I never "got" hand planes until someone let me use a well tuned and VERY sharp one. Since then, I've refurbished many Stanleys, but over the years I've been replacing (ok, augmenting) them with LN which are far superior. All that to say that I agree with your approach of using inexpensive planes until you can afford something better. Cheers!

@ChrisHornberger

11 ай бұрын

Not just afford them, but to really understand how to use them and how to get the delta between a decent one and a "good" one to really matter. Putting a new driver in a sports car is never going to really show the car's potential. :)

@johnnichols8553

2 ай бұрын

@@ChrisHornberger I don't have any large hand planes, just a couple of vintage block planes my grandpa owned. I am looking to get a vintage Stanley No 4, with the goal of cleaning it up and actually using it. I feel like every woodworker should have one, to get an appreciation for a Veritas or Lie Neilsen, which are long term goals.

Another inspiring video - Thanks Erik. I’ve gone down the old plane route. One aspect of that route is the pure joy in bringing life back to an item that has been left to decay, and then using it as it was intended to be used. Keep up the great videos. Ken, Southport UK.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Ken. I’m really glad you’re enjoying the videos. And I couldn’t agree more… bringing an old tool back to life is thing of besuty!

I'm completely new to woodworking, about 3 months experience. I know I want to work with hand tools and so far I have gotten 4 pre 1950's Stanley's, a 4, 5, 6 and a Handyman. It was frustrating but after a few weeks i got them all figured out, tuned up and now shavings fly out of the mouth. It was so satisfying learning how to clean them, set them up and then fine tune them. I have access to free oak pallets, 6ft long 4inch wide and 1inch thick, so that is what I used to practice and learn. I enjoyed the video, as well as the couple others i have seen of yours so far, will dig into more of your back catalogue. Thanks for the videos.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And good luck with the Stanley’s. They’re a joy to use once cleaned up nicely.

@Mainbusfail

3 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard to one of the oldest and most fulfilling hobby / craft man can experience.

My first two planes were a Stanley #4 and a Record #5 off eBay. Tuned them up and they work great. I use them all the time. My next plane was a Veritas low angle block plane. I love it. My next will likely be a Veritas low angle jack plane for an all round shooting board plane.

I use a similar set of planes and I agree with you completely. Good advice. Thanks!

I'm really glad you are back on weekly videos, that are always so good!

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m so glad you’re enjoying them. And thanks for always engaging 🙏🙏

Love your stuff! Sage advice for new woodworkers, and informative without being a fanboy of one method or product over another. I have almost exclusively (minus my 30 year old block plane) either old Stanley or a bit more current German wooden bodied planes (Ulmia etc.). I tend to use power tools, but when the work needs detail I bring out the planes and hand routers. I also hate to sand (don't we all), so planes and scrapers save a LOT of hassle for me.

Erik, thanks for this video! I love your style. I know you've done it 1000 time for the lie Nielsen demos, but I'd personally love to see your version of setting up one of these planes. I greatly appreciate your videos. Thanks!

My only criticism of your video concerns the background music and it's only because I'm an old, deaf Vietnam veteran who has to wear hearing aids and that makes streaming difficult when there is background music to contend with. Thanks Erik. I wish I could afford a Lie-Nielsen hand plane, but my Wood Rivers will have to suffice for me.

Thanks Erik, a good balanced overview ! We're very fortunate here in the UK there are plenty of old Stanleys, Records etc, all of my planes came from E-bay for between £15 & £50 and once tuned and sharpened can do anything an expensive new one can ! What people forget is that even these planes were expensive in their time that's why cheap modern ones are so poor !

I just love that planing sound.. I sometimes need to stop myself planing a piece that's good and done just because I'm enjoying the feel and sound of a perfectly tuned and sharpened plane too much 😂

@dfu1685

4 ай бұрын

😂 hahaha! So nice to know that I am not the only one who can take a good thing too far!!!

A few years ago I had a chance to buy dozens of pre-war hand planes from a collector. I found that I could tune up most of them, but out of the 100+ different planes, there were only a handful that are, for whatever reason, perfect. All the rest are just ok.

I have both the Veritas low angle jack and the Lie Nielson. I also have my grandfather's Stanleys that are over 100 years old. They still work just fine.

Thanks for this

Excellent video, sir. Thank you for sharing your thought process, its easier for a beginner to make more educated decisions. 🍀

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind comment my friend 🙏

I started with some not so great post WWII Stanley's. I just didn't find them at all satisfying despite watching many videos of how to "tune" them. I bought a Veritas low angle jack plane and that was a game changer for me! Along the way I learned how to sharpen properly. Then I was given an old tool box with a few Stanley type 10's and 11's and I restored them. Now a Stanley no 6 type 10 is my very favorite plane. It sings! Such a wonderful tool to use! I also have a few of the smaller Lie Nielsen planes and they are amazing. It took a long time for me to understand why people love the vintage Stanley's.

I’ve got my great grandfather’s Stanley #4. I will never get rid of it but I never use it. I don’t know if it’s pre 1950 but I did a lot of work on it; getting it flat, getting the blade sharp, getting the frog adjusted. I consider myself mechanical but that plane just hates me. I have a modern #6 with a thicker better blade and easier frog adjustment and I never think about using the old Stanley on a piece of wood. I know the thing that really matters is the edge of the blade that touches the wood but dialing in the opening of the mouth makes a big difference too. So I buy once and cry once. One day I hope to have a nice shop where I can display the old Stanley. Anyway, thank you for your videos. I’m a fan!

@dfu1685

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like you could turn that Stanley into a beautiful scrub plane and then look forward to using it when needed!

Smiled at your comment about the sapwood. I have a No. 4 that was my grandfather’s - Type 14 (IIRC, ~1931-32). It’s very similar to yours, but the sapwood portion is even lighter. I have to say that I’ve always thought it was a little odd, but the way you talked about it completely changed my perspective. 😊 BTW, this No. 4 has a laminated iron, which I don’t see discussed very often. I’d be interested in any comments you have if you’ve owned an older Stanley with a laminated iron.

Great video! The KZread algo put you in front of me and this was exactly the video I needed to see. I'm new to hand planes. Literally just purchased my first two old/refurbished Stanleys for under $150 like you mentioned. It made sense to me to be able buy 2 old/refurb planes for the same price as one brand new one. It enabled me to afford a couple sharpening stones - which seemed essential. I had glass and sand paper, but wanted the longevity of stones. I enjoyed your approach and common sense info - I'm a new sub!

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it and learned a thing or two. And thanks for the sub my guy! Enjoy the new planes!

@johnshipps441

Жыл бұрын

@@ENCurtis Do you have a recommended method for sharpening plane irons? I searched your channel and didn’t find anything.

Sweet video and demonstration of your fleet……that little LN 102 Jen engraved is my favorite too. I always look for it in your backdrop when you are in front of it, but never see it……till now I see what shelf it lives on. 😀 Enjoy your day Eric, eager to see that beautiful door hung too.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

It is, without a doubt, the most beautiful tool I own thanks to Jenny. And that door should be hung very soon!

Awesome video

I've got my great grandfather's number 4 from when he bought it new in the 10s or 20s. It has a tote with half sapwood as well

Great video!!

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hand planes might be my weakness, I have too many. Including a Woden and a Bedrock.

@Control-Freak

4 күн бұрын

I think I am over 60 planes now, yes, I have a problem

Man, all I own are 100 year old planes lol, I can't justify spending crazy amounts of hard earned cash on a new one, and I love finding antique Stanley at yard sales when the owner has no idea what he/she has, then the satisfaction of restoring them and using them is so awesome.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Who doesn't love refurbishing a beautiful old plane?? ESPECIALLY one you found for dirt cheap at an old garage sale!

@oliver299d

Жыл бұрын

I used to do the same, on the weekends I would travel to the fleA market, antique stores and yard sales. used to find a lot of great deals, but honestly when you think about the gas and time of it all, I bet sitting at your computer buying one on eBay would cost less. but you lose the experience of the chase for Sure

You're a good speaker, and I agree with much of what you said. I feel I have to point out that a lot of people are missing out on good, reasonably priced planes because they bypass Millers Falls planes. I'd stack their premium lin against Stanley planes any day, and I suspect that they're made of better materials than the old Stanley planes. I own a LN No 4 and a Veritas Low Angle Jack. I reach for the veritas Jack more frequently than I do the LN No. 4.

Love all you vids. Any chance you have a build video of the wall hanging tool cabinet?

That's the same reason for finding older hand planes cheap. People bought them, tried to use them, but never set them up, got disgusted and tossed them in a draw, never to be seen again, until the garage sale when I buy them.

Thanks mate

I’ve got a few vintage planes which I’ve setup and sharpened. The unmatchable joy of using a 125 year old Stanley #7 to make a board smooth as baby’s butt is worth every hour of cleaning, tuning, and sharpening….and it was many hours 😂

Hmm... delicious hand planes

Nice video. My one disagreement is regarding the blades that come with the old Stanleys. Replacing them with Hock blades is a massive and relatively inexpensive upgrade. Even razor sharp I don't think the old blades compare well with Hock blades...

I’d love a sharpening video and your take on sharpening systems! That’s been my biggest frustration over the last year or so

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Definitely planning one!!

@ehisey

Жыл бұрын

The open secret is dont jump around. Pick a method and just stick to it for a year, you will find everything starts getting very sharp. Second is always turn a burr. That means you got zero intersect that is a sharp edge. Stone, sand paper, lapping compound diamond, it all works the same way.

@darodes

Жыл бұрын

@@ehisey I’ve stuck with a cheap set of diamond plates, but have been frustrated with the results… I question if it’s me and my inexperience, the cheap chisels or irons, the cheap plates, or a combination lol… I did just get a honing jig, so that has helped a little. I’m just very interested on everyone else’s methods

@ehisey

Жыл бұрын

@@darodes that is the hardest part, the need to just practice. I have found that each tool has to go through a training period before it really takes an edge each time. When you have mastered a method, the initialization of the tool when you get takes care of it, before that itis lots of sharpening. What kind of issues are you having?

@darodes

Жыл бұрын

@@ehisey maybe it’s because I just picked up a hand plane and chisels last year with zero experience, and I don’t know what sharp is “supposed” to feel like… also don’t know if I should temper my expectations with cheaper tools too.

I would use any hand plane, just adjust it, work it. All the same 50 or 500. Shape your blade with a small radius so it don't bite at the edge. The rest is just patience and tuning.

What a helpful and informative video-thank you! Out of curiosity, do you still teach people how to use hand tools? I ask as a brand-new learner located somewhat near the previous employer you referenced.

In my journey to learn how to use hand planes, some where a while ago, I figures out how important it is to get a junk plane and learn how to fine tune it. Everything from taking it apart, checking blade sides and nose for square, cleaning the surfaces and filing down where needed, and putting it back together. You can learn a whole lot from doing this. Picked up a newer Stanley 4 1/2 and it still had factory paint on it. Took a month of fussing around with it to get it so it finally cut the way I wanted it to....

@donesry2902

Жыл бұрын

A month?!?! Wow.

@robohippy

Жыл бұрын

@@donesry2902 Well, as I said, I am kind of new to this part of flat work.... Almost 73 years old. I should have had shop classes....

@donesry2902

Жыл бұрын

@@robohippy I would have given up way before you finished. But I did spend a lot of time working on my old plane and never got it working the way it should. I bought a thicker blade for it but then the adjuster thing couldn’t reach the slot. Also, there are two types of frogs. My old Stanley has the one that you can only adjust if the blade is removed which is a lot of work. My new plane I can adjust the frog with the blade attached. Anyway I’m happy with my new plane and don’t ever plan to refurbish another old plane. I know a lot of guys have several different sizes. I only use my #6. The length and weight are really good for making flat cuts. I also have a block plane and a shoulder plane but most of the work I do is with the #6

@robohippy

Жыл бұрын

@@donesry2902 I would bet that if you took that plane to some one who really knows how to refurbish them, they could take one look and say "Oh, just do this" and then you would palm smack your forehead and say "Why didn't I think of that?" I am persistent about things and that was how long it took me to figure it out. I did ask a friend and he made a couple of suggestions, and one of them worked.

@robohippy

6 ай бұрын

The plane that I spent a month on trying to figure out why it wouldn't cut, I finally figured out the mounting spot for the frog had a sizeable hump in it, and I figured out how to flatten that out. Now, it cuts well, I have some old metal planes, and I may get the thicker blades for them. This may require a new screw for the lever cap. That would involve a search for the same thread size and pitch, then buy a new screw and cut it to size. Not too difficult....

Mr. Curtis, 2 questions. One, and I am not sure if this was the video where you commented about it, but you said you didn't like the Wood River planes. I am curious as to what you didn't like about them. I don't care for the handle snice that bump near the base hits a pressure point on the heel of my palm so that is uncomfortable for me. Other than that, it seems to be fine quality. The other question is what about the Japanese style pull planes? I am playing with some, and hope to make some, but I do like them. Fine tuning them takes a bit to learn.... I do like the metal, and still learning to sharpen them. I guess for that matter, how about the western style push planes?

I agree with most of the video, however beginners are unlikely to understand how to get a vintage handplane up and runnning correctly. Its more than simple understanding what needs to be corrected, its the understanding of what a tuned plane really feels like. Getting a contemporary plane will more likely lead to a pleasant experience than a vintage one for the beginner.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

I do agree. It’s far easier to learn on a new, flawless tool than a refurb.

10:00 So which is it, ready to use right out of the box or you need to sharpen it up a little bit ? From what I hear all planes need to be tuned before use. I have 4 planes, all used, and do what I need them to. Maybe some day I’ll be able to try out a high end one.

Wonderful intro to planes. They are indeed among my most important and loved tools. I have a suggestion, take it or leave, but it would be great if you would take it, or maybe point me/us in the right direction. I have a Lie Nielsen #4. Gorgeous plane. I cannot for the life of me get the blade extended beyond the mouth enough to take a full, clean shaving. If I extended it enough, it hits the front of the mouth. If I move the frog back a bit I cannot extended the blade enough. It is maddening! I have other planes that work wonderfully. There is something about the geometry that I'm missing. I want to love this plane, but I can't until I get it figured out. Help? Please? By the way, even if you cannot help, keep up the great content.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. And sorry to hear about that frustrating situation! Without getting my hands on the tool to see what’s happening it’s hard to advise, but you can always call lie Nielsen and speak with someone at length about the issue. And if it can’t be resolved over the phone you can send it in for a free repair or adjustment.

i'll admit i own a few veritas planes. the only lee valley in the usa happens to be down the street from my place so its hard to pass up 😂

I (think) I am at 50 planes and counting about 1/3 are modern and 1/3 collectors and 1/3 users. They are all good, but also all eventually need tuning. Just remember that the time you spend on most old rust buckets is going to be FAR more expensive than just to buy a new plane (no matter wha your job is). Ideally you buy a tuned (almost tuned) used plane. The caveat is that you don't know what you are looking at unless you have owned a crapload of them. I think any Baileys from type 9 to 12 are probably the best you can do - 11 being the most pleasant to look at despite the small adjuster. If you can live with a heavier tool, the Woden & older Records will do better final work with a thicker heavier base.

Another route is buying one of the new planes that cost less than the old ones. There's certainly going to be more setup than the high end new brands, but maybe less than the old ones. Generally I think you have to spend either time or money, so which do you have more of?

I'm 57 just retired and getting into wood working ,watching some videos to learn a little more about hand plains, one thing im looking to know is the sizes witch sizes to get , why so many different sizes ,witch one I need, what dose one size do that a different size can't or can do,. can you make a video about that ,,,thanks

Spending a lot of money doest make you a better wood worker . The guy on epic upscaling does some of the coolest wood working on you tube with a chisel hand saw and ball peen hammer. Blows all the boutique boys away

Nice video. Question: Why does every woodworker use softwood pine to demonstrate the sharpness of their hand planes? Most woodworkers are using hardwood for projects. Why not compare apples to apples?

Fantastic, more in depth, sharpening and setting up would be great 👍

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Noted! Will try to do so at some point soon!

@PaulC1980

Жыл бұрын

@@ENCurtis Brilliant! Thanks for the reply👍

Thanks for another excellent video. Do you have anything you can share for a total newbie to sharpening? I bought a low-angle block plane, a set of chisels, and whetstones ... and now I need to figure out how to start. :)

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

I’m planning to do a sharpening video soon(ish). I’ll show you my entire system and talk about my past systems in that video. For now, I would say get yourself a guide and sharpen at 30-35 degrees to make life simple and easy as possible.

@1pcfred

Жыл бұрын

@@ENCurtis using a guide is excellent advise. To be honest I'd say grinding the primary bevel is pretty much essential too. If you're grinding the primary bevel you don't have to hone much at all which saves on time, effort and honing supplies. I only use a 1,000 grit diamond plate to hone on. After that I polish and go.

I'm a weekend woodworker (not every weekend) and DIYer. I have the opportunity to get a modern Stanley No. 62 SweetHeart Low Angle Jack Plane and the Stanley No. 60-1/2 SweetHeart Low Angle Block Plane for around $125 for both, new. I understand that they're not the best out there and I'm sure i'll have to do some tuning, which I'm not opposed to, but would those be a great buy for my occasional use and for the price I can get both combined? These would also be my first two hand planes.

👍👍👍👍

At 2:00 it is important not to have the blade square, if shaving a flat surface, but to have the cutting edge parralell / square to the bottom of the plane!

@ChrisHornberger

11 ай бұрын

You're probably picking nits; that's essentially how I think most people take it. I've always known that "having the blade square" means taking a flat cut, regardless of where the lateral adjuster points the whole blade. ** shrug **

I look at an old or used differently. Its a stockpile of parts. Depending where you find it, will determine how much you pay for it. But if the blade is too far gone, you can buy a replacement. I have a box of old planes I've picked up over the years, I used them for parts. I haven't noticed a quality problem with the post war planes. I'll do just about anything rather then have to spend a fortune on a new one.

Thank you for the nice video with lots of info. I was given a HAND PLANE . It appears to be old (objective of course) The only marking i can see is MADE IN USA below the wheel. Any idea what brand this could be ?? Thank you

To "win" an argument on the internet, I tuned up a sheet metal (rather than cast iron) PEXTO plane, widely considered useless, the reality is that it works beautiful, although still using it to see how well the paper thin blade holds up.

I need to see what mine is.. it’s in great shape it needs a new handle as it is cracked.. but for $10 and I’ve been looking for one in decent hope it’s good. lol I found some in worse shape for $30

All true. One can also, for grins, build a Krenov-style plane, give it a Hock blade, and Bob's yer uncle.

Erik getting sappy on this one 😂

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

I can’t help myself. I love what I love 😂

A man who loves his hand planers.. a little too much

So is your advice is to go looking for an old tool that most no their worth?

I'm new to woodworking and I wanted to use a hand plane but I didn't know what to buy and didn't want to spend much on it, since I still don't know how much I like the hobby. I bought a Kobalt hand plane from Lowes. I did kind of enjoy planing with it, but it would gouge the wood in places and I would often end up with the work piece thinner around the edges. I never tried to sharpen it. Just the honing blocks sound expensive to me. Would honing it make much difference, or is a Kobalt plane just garbage?

With the Lie Neilson hand planes, would you recommend the iron or the bronze? And why? I'm looking to buy one.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Both are great. Only upside to bronze is it doesn’t rust (and sexier). Upside to iron is it’s cheaper. That’s the only difference.

What recommendations for someone that wants to elevate their woodworking but not invest in a power planer...ie the 735x DeWalt. Is a #5 jack plane sufficient?

I've had most of my old Record and Stanley planes for over fifty years and have worn out several blades on them and they work every bit as good as the new kids on the block but my planes just feel so much better in my hands. I guess the totes have worn to fit my hands over the years and I have made new totes for some of them which are so much more comfortable than the new ones. I have used the LNs and the Vs and the BCs of this world and I just do not see the need to spend lots of money on 'pretty' tools when the old ones work perfectly well. I would rather spend money on beautiful wood.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

I do agree totally. If you’re Stanley’s are singing sweetly, use them well and lovingly. Spend the money on lumber. They were fantastic tools then and remain fantastic tools now.

I wish you had shown us how to put all the bits back together again!

I've often wondered if all these American woodworkers on KZread pronounce lever like "lee-ver" because of Canadian Rob Cosman.

What is the tool your using to sharpen the blades? Not the stone. I just found your channel today through the Shaper Orgin, debating on getting one. Found this video, just so I was giving a couple of Lie Neilson and Veritas planes, scared to use them, don’t want to ruin them, I don’t know how to adjust them. Also, I didn’t know the blade had to be sharpen! Thank you!

@1pcfred

Жыл бұрын

The Eclipse honing guide? That's what he's using at 5:56 Don't do the ruler trick like he does. That's just bad form.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Glad you learned something! I’m using the honing guide from lie Nielsen, but there are cheaper options on the market.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

And for the record, there is nothing wrong with the ruler trick. Helpful to hone the back of the blade close to the edge. Just don’t do it on your chisels.

@M.C.62

Жыл бұрын

@@ENCurtis awesome!…thank you.

Perhaps I am too new to woodworking. What does it mean if you talk about a #4, #5, #8, etc?

Stanley charges $350 for their hand planes where I live.

I think for smoothers and light work, new is very much superior even if you know what you are doing. It's just heavier, better iron, stays engaged a lot better, is dead flat and stable, which is what you want for a smoother. Rough work if you plan on no machines, just get wooden planes, you shouldn't care about flatness maintenance and for jointers new metal plane again is best. And keep in mind that anything over 50$ for a stanley is a bad idea, Stanley planes are not good quality planes, they never were and you should not pay for it. Just get some random semi premium plane around 200$, it's just as good as LN.

My whole concern is why should a CNC made plane cost as much as the are nailing us for. If they were hand ground and polished..maybe.

I use old wooden hand planes.

(sings) all planes are beautiful, all planes are nice.. Well kind of Shame there's not a strong second hand market in used Lie Nielsen and Veritas because people hold on to them.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

There may be one day. But they’ve only been around 25+ years.

I have a love affair with my hand plans but it took a while. The relationship like any good marriage just gets better when you understand your partner. I’m talking mostly about the plane here… not that the other is any less important.

Neilson planes are far superior to the old Stanley’s I have both

😃👍🏻👊🏻

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

😎🙏🔥

The LN and other high end planes look beautiful and perform well, but are not a good fit for my hobbyist budget. I still use my father's old Craftsman jack plane and his Stanley block plane, both of which are older than I am. I also have a Dunlap block plane that I found in my mother-in-law's garage after she passed away. Not sure if it was her father's, or if it was left behind by the home's previous owner. My "newest" plane is a Fulton fore plane with a corrugated bottom, manufactured somewhere between 1918-1925. I picked it up for $6 at a small town junk store, flattened the sole, cleaned up the rust, repaired the tote, and sharpened the blade. It works well.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely nothing wrong with restoring old planes for use. They're brilliant tools and were made for working.

What’s the beef with Woodriver? Your comment seems a little visceral. There is some Canadian guy who seems to think they are a good as LN.

Thanks you for the info and thanks for cc so I don't have to listen to the annoying background noise.

@ENCurtis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@alandust2188

Жыл бұрын

@@ENCurtis Do you have any plans to do a video on scrapers, use and sharpening? I couldn't find anything on your Playlist unless I missed it. Thanks again for the video on planes.

Все верно чувак, если руки из нужного места растут то можно из говна сделать конфетку и нехуй тратить кучу бабла на нельсоны и веритасы👍 100% I agree with you dude

Vidéo intéressante mais étant un vieux de la vieille une chose me choque dans sa vidéo on ne pose jamais jamais un rabot à plat sur un établi…..question de logique passer tant de temps à l affûtage pour le planter dans l établi . J aurai fait ça en apprentissage pas longtemps car le coup de pied aux fesses du maître d’apprentissage aurait été aussitôt. …….

I'll go one step further, you can find craftsman or millers falls planes made prior to WW2 that are 30-50 bucks and function at a high level like the others. Stanleys have become hilariously overpriced as "collectables". Generally, the higher end planes are going to have less adjustment, a better blade that holds the edge longer, and extra newer features like micro adjustment, precision grinding, and contours in locations that are traditionally uncomfortable. A great example of a hand plane that eventually becomes a necessity is a shooting plane. Yes, you can use a low profile or jack plane, yes they work well, but after 1000 cuts you are losing time/money/effort using a tool for not it's intended purpose.

I learned that someone else will be using my LN5.5 and Veritas LAJ in 100 years. I don’t think this will be true of anything else I own. Ownership of planes is temporary it seems.

OH second thought the Stanley's are not steel

By a good Hock iron and make your own plane for 50 bucks..........

A good tradesman never blames the tool ! Never. I've seen some fantastic work done with so called cheap tools and absolutely shit jobs done by those with all the best tools. I've been in woodwork for about 50yrs and the old tools are by far better quality than the newer ones.

They used to build things to last. Now days they build things to fall apart.

This is how you turn something really simple out of something what would likely be very hard. Reminds me about Woody Hyezmar’s Woodworking Bible which is being given away and can try go’ogling, but I’m not so sure, have a good one!

I can't understand why people still talk about the performance out of the box. That barely registers as a fraction of the lifespan of the plane. Within one good session it needs to be re-sharpened. I appreciate that a manufacturer would take the time to do this, but when evaluating a plane, it means absolutely nothing. Great video btw. Cheers from Canada.

@BeeSharp

Жыл бұрын

Because setting up a plane is alot more than just sharping the blade. Proper setup involves getting parts to mate well with each other and understanding what to do when they are not. This isn't something a beginner is likely to understand.

Never set down hand plane on the table always on the side !!!!!!!!! Before all lesson It was the first thing we learnt for Time ago …….

@Control-Freak

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, setting the blade down on wood will dull it. Better to expose it so other metal objects can strike it. Just messing with you, it is like politics, you will never convince all to your view on this.

@MrPhilippe974

4 күн бұрын

@@Control-Freak hello I only understand so you a good worker but you have to get up if you ll be better because you don t know what is the total tools respect. It s no only à problem with strikeDon t worry perapse one day you ll be. Sorry for my poor english .i d like explain to you .

@Control-Freak

4 күн бұрын

@@MrPhilippe974 Not sure I understand what you are trying say but thank you for the reply.

Its just my stupid opinion walkin here, but I would have used a much longer plank to demonstrate with. Other than that. I have nothing of any worth to share.

It really is stupid that Lie Nielson and Veritas blades are not precision sharpened and honed right out of the box. For what these sell for, they should be perfect and ready to go. I don't buy the excuse that "everyone sharpens things a little differently and has their own preferences," etc., because many plane buyers don't yet have the skills to apply a really good edge on the blade. Companies that sell premium tools at premium prices that still require the buyer to "tune" it are phoning it in. It's a rip-off. How happy would you be if you bought a table saw only to discover you need to sharpen the blade to make it work better? Not very--I guarantee.

please dont put your plane down on its blade sit it on its side..especialy if you use your bench for glueing or metalwork. cool stuff tho..

@MrPhilippe974

4 ай бұрын

Yes its the first lesson

You've been in woodwork for about ten years eh, so your barely out of your apprenticeship then 😂

Aghhhh 😢 you are comitting one of the cardinal sins of plane usage. Always rest place your plane on its side, not on its sole . That's how you damage your razor sharp iron😢

@MrPhilippe974

4 ай бұрын

I am not the only one to be schock…..