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Thanks again for having me on guys! Can we take a moment to appreciate now that the second Tom started talking about the fluid in the wall he brings up sealing the tunnel at castle black and asks "is that a good tree to bark up" and I couldn't resist saying "that's a good way to word it", but the tunnel at castle black wasn't actually related so I had to scramble to not give away the game that it's all about a big tree the fluid goes up hahaha

@cbob213

9 ай бұрын

I caught that. Knowing your videos and theories I was chuckling, listening to you scramble and try say yes, but also, no. How about yes’nt. 😂🤣😂🤣

@bostonmetalclips

4 күн бұрын

@@michaeltalksaboutstuff yes! Having watched your videos first I was holding my own tongue and impressed with his intuition. Great video!

This explains two weird things. One, the NW Builders spread gravel on top of the wall to keep it from getting slippery (as ice accumulates). If the Wall was melting like a glacier, the Builders would have to sweep newly exposed loose rocks off the top, not add more. The Wall building itself up from below makes much more sense anyway, compared to the immensely labor-intensive and inexplicable strategy of adding an impossible amount of height and weight to a structure made of ice. Two, not only are wells inhumane places to throw unwanted children, but dead children are irresponsible additions to wells. Ruining drinking water with human bodies is usually unnecessary, so either Westeros lost track of their metaphor, or the wells were actually weirwoods or weirwood-adjacent infrastructure.

No legend of Zelda connection but there might be a Link.

According to legend, the Horn of Winter will bring down the Wall by awakening giants underneath. Maybe the legend confuses giants with the Others tied up to the Weirwoods making up the Wall, and the Horn just releases them from the Weirwoods. Imagine if the Horn is blown at the Wall, nothing happens, and then an army of Others begin pouring forth from the castles.

It’s pretty hype hearing other people excited about this theory cause I was stoked lol

Insignificant thought maybe, but does the gate open for Sam because it recognises him as a brother of the watch because he said his vows at/to a weirwood tree. It would make narrative sense, as doing so has made no difference to the story so far. Maybe some other night's watchmen tried to go through the nightfort, but couldn't because they said their vows in a sept.

this could also explain how bloodraven is introduced as tied up in the weirwood network. george loves lovecraftian stuff so the idea of sleeping deities still controlling things while dormant could be these others in the trees and bloodraven is much more of an intruder to the weirwood network rather than the master of it, and he’s working to make sure the tree others/ weirwood network doesn’t wake up and release the full force of its magic. martin loves wearing his influences on his sleeve so these “sleeping giants” could be lovecraftian elder god type others that on bloodravens death would wake and cause havoc. it even mirrors how the show sidestepped this in favor of viserion, a freaky big other waking up and bringing down the wall

Luwin told Bran that the castle of WF was stone weirwood, and the crypts and tunnels were the roots

Great discussion boys. Absolutely love this theory. On the Pando side - it was said in TWOIAF that back in the day, the Blackwoods once ruled the Wolfswoods of the north, before being driven from there by the Kings of Winter (with some runic evidence in support). So (a) the Blackwoods would have known about this wall construction and the requirement for ongoing blood sacrifice, and (b) maybe when they were ousted by the Starks, they were cut off from this process / tradition as a punishment - ie the Starks killed their part of the Pando Tree network as a symbol of dominion/ power! Also gives good context for how / why Bloodraven knows what he does.

Fantastic theory!

The branch in Night Fort kitchens is reaching up as if trying to touch Bran...just like Bran as a tree trying to reach for Jon....wow

You gotta do the follow up video. The new context about the foreshadowing in the bran flight dream and Daenerys shade visions is crazy, plus the addition of how glass candles tie in!

I desperately need a sequel/followup video on this, this was great!

I keep coming back to this video I cant stop thinking about this theory.

Wald is the German word for forest, so George might be punning. I know I've used a forest as a "wall" in a D&D setting based on that pun. Also, Walder Frey is a border sentinel of sorts. So maybe "Forest"er, "Lord of the Crossing" Frey is another pun.

@moiz85

11 ай бұрын

This makes me think of the name Walder in the story

Bran didn't like the heart tree at Winterfell either... Catelyn didn't either,it thinking it's long slow thoughts

This was amazing, the heart tree being the mother of the weirwoods that all the roots come from would make sense, like an aloe Vera that brings up babies from its roots and grows other aloes, and that’s why it’s called the heart, it’s at the centre of everything beating water into the veins of Westeros, and with the others trapped inside? This needs a follow up video for sure

@swayback7375

19 күн бұрын

You should check out “clonal trees” Aspen for example, may appear to be hundreds or even thousands of different trees that make up a forest, when in fact it is all one large plant underground, as the roots spread further out sideways they also send out fresh shoots that emerge and LOOK like a new tree is growing but it’s essentially just another branch of the same life form. It’s actually very common and you probably have several plants around you right now that do this, as you said, aloes and many succulents do this, but they usually don’t get very tall so they spread sideways like a shrub…kinda… locust, hackberry, Osage orange… bamboo and many types of stalked grass. And my personal favorite, some elephant ears actually grow tentacles (known as stolons) that shoot up out the ground and rapidly sprawl as much as 10’, often they’re black or purple, about as big around as a sharpie and look very much like a thick wire… every few inches it will plug down roots, eventually a bulb (corm) forms, leaves emerge and a new, very fast growing plant will come up, in a short time that plant will send out its own runners that spread out… they’re quite bizarre looking!

Shocked Pikachu meme

YOOO what if the "sleeping giants" are kaiju sized weirwood ents???

@InterestingNerdClub

11 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD YES

@heatran1919

11 ай бұрын

Which Barristan Selmy will fight in a big Harpy mech

@kewl0210

11 ай бұрын

Holy shit what if this is where the ent wives went? They went inside The Wall???

I found Michael’s channel from the companion video and it was really fun hearing the theory in this way. I love this collaboration too. Anyway the theory itself takes my breath away just like the first time. I absolutely think you’re dead on. Love it.

Knowledge of plants and botany really adds to this theory but also adds to the story and is just plain interesting. Aspen trees in the western US are “clonal trees”, what appears to be a dense forest of similar sized trees is actually one tree, as the roots spread out it sends up new shoots, they emerge looking like a seedling but grows very fast because it’s all one organism, the other “trees” are all sending energy to these new shoots. In time one tree can spread to cover acres and acres with thousands of individual trunks, similar to bamboo. Even better are stoloneferous plants! Some elephant ears grow tentacles known as stolons. They shoot out of the mature bulb, usually popping out of the ground and running along the ground for a few feet, maybe as far as 10’. Every foot or so it will send out roots that plug down in the ground, a new bulb will form and leaves next, tge mother plant feeds them so they grow very fast, they can scrabble over rocks or driveways, or even dangle into waterways and happily grow in tge waters edge, it’s a great strategy to find fresh soil or move to a better area. These tentacles absolutely look like they coukd come to like and wrap you up! They’re often deep purple, red or black, they dont taper at all, looking very much like a piece of co/ax cable has come to life and is voraciously trying to cover the whole world, and in fact they can be very invasive and hard to eliminate… running bamboo is far more vigorous and invasive but just doesn’t look as freaky. Cheers

Oh this was so fucking good

Could also explain why Bran is the target of the others. He knows how to rebuild the wall.

Wow fellas! I really like this one.

Hear me out, it's not others crucified, it's children of the forest. The others are repelled by them, which explains blood ravens cave

THIS IS ABSOILUTELY OUTSTANDING WORK

This was mind blowing.

Love the video guys. Looking forwards to more videos like this one in the future.

Must always be a Stark at WF,to kill deserters and clean the sword ICE

Maybe the Horn of Winter doesn't break the wall, maybe it breaks the chains holding what is crucified inside the wall.

If the wall is cooling everything down the heat still needs to go somewhere. Is Winterfell heated by the geothermal action?

Theory: bran says that the wierwood looks like a man aging but being unable to die so what if greyscale eventuality makes you unable to die turning you into a wierwood.

just a couple minutes in to the video and I'm excited - I've been rereading fire & blood, and I'm really focused on where there are weirwoods especially with the theory that wyrms might be involved in underground tunnels

Wow this is good

LGBTree tracks.

I wonder how the Isle of faces plays into this theory maybe there is some significance there

Do the Five Forts have something similar going on?

What if those others are the nights kings kids and the horn of winter had a spell to put them asleep because if the lord of winter fell killed them it would’ve been kin slaying

Humans are not magical. Children of the forest are magical, others are magical, etc. So what if children are the ones who made all that, built a wall and told people to poor blood into the wall or else others will come and kill everyone. I mean others gaslit humans to give up some of their kind to this giant wall or else all humans die. Also we talked about how the night watch got a lot less since the visit of Good quin Alisent. What if Alisent realized all that and said no, we will not continue to do the blood thing and since than only criminals were send to the wall. Hence less men, hence less blood sacrifice. And then Targs died, Stark father and son died and everyone who knew no longer lived. Does Bloodraven know? Bloodraven sits up north with children of the forest. He calls the most magical kid to him. He shows this kid all tree magic staff. So one day Bran can reaffirm the pact with the others and continue the blood sacrifice?

@russwilliams4464

11 ай бұрын

Like this a lot. I used to think that Jon or Bran might have to restart blood / child sacrifice to the others. However, this isn’t very GRRM. I wonder whether that was how it was dealt with last time round - but now it all has to stop. Peace with the others, the disappearance of magic and unity of humanity.

@Nemo-vq6bk

11 ай бұрын

@@russwilliams4464 My prediction would be something like dismantling the Wall, letting go all the trapped others. Bran becoming the leader of the others (I have no idea what he will be called by then). John becoming the leader of the north, or, possible, of the people who would live in the Gift. Yes, John will be resurrected, that is a given to me. And people will be send north occasionally , question mark. Less blood sacrifice of children vibe and more those who decide to join the old powers but dying for all other people vibe.