I’m a solar contractor. It’s over. PUC killed it. Nobody is buying solar anymore. 15 years in business over.

@therealcnn5346

Күн бұрын

Any business based on incentive $$$ is bull stuff! Subsidized costs everyone else

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

You get pitched and pitched and pitched solar and then one day the state says shove it and boom, your investment is wiped out.

Such A broken system thanks to governor gruesome...

Utilities want you to pay, period. You install solar, you will pay. Is that the reason?

@zAlaska

4 күн бұрын

Sold on credit. It's those that are receiving the interest that are making the money with the solar panels power of sale to the Grid at 30 cents a kilowatt. I put 65 solar panels on my house with the help of the credit company, charging me only 29.998% interest. Installing a right-sized panel system that runs the air conditioning in the basics and doesn't generate much excess, paid for upfront with cash instead of credit, the savings and earnings come from not having to spend 30 cents a kilowatt on your belt with free air conditioning running the basics had not trying to power everybody on your block that's got 30 to 50 solar panels on their home as well. Going solar should make the cost of power for everybody go down but if they're paying home producers 30 cents a kilowatt to really overproduce, that's not a correct approach for future development. Five solar panels on a home to get started can be paid for with cash, and it can run the air conditioner paying for itself quickly as you consume everything it produces. Five solar panels on every home instead of concentrated solar panels in the suburbs is the solution to emissions and high power costs. That is what I did.

@Paiadakine

4 күн бұрын

Exactly, the utilities are slowly chipping away at the solar benefits. Before they paid you what you pay to buy back solar. Now they don’t and now they charge for using electricity grid with a set fee. They are losing sales and this profit. Just like the water utilities. Everyone is conserving, so what do they do, they raise prices. Don’t ever expect utility costs to go down. I eventually want to get batteries and cut the link to the electric utilities (if Calif would allow).

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

You sell power to the grid at wholesale and buy it back at retail is how it goes in Caly.

The CPUC never seems to do much to benefit consumers.

@Paiadakine

4 күн бұрын

Exactly. When was the last time the cpuc was on the users side? They always cave in and approve rate hikes (and profit).

@wayneparker9331

Күн бұрын

@@PaiadakineIt’s not about approving rate hikes because the PUC is in bed with utilities. There is and has always been a great deal of animosity between the PUC and the various public utilities in California because the relationship is inherently adversarial. The problem is quite the opposite. The PUC is entirely controlled by self-described social justice warriors and Far Left Democrats. Look up the names and work histories of the five current commissioners. Same with the California Energy Commission and Air Resources Board. These three state agencies have done incredible harm to Californians and most residents don’t have a clue.

Do not blame utilities. This is 100% result of CA government. Claim there’s a problem when there isn’t one. Creates a “fix” to said problem. Then the solution creates a problem and government has to fix it again.

@celebrityrog

5 күн бұрын

There is a problem, deregulation 25 years ago did this. And solar is essentially free and utility companies don’t like it and want a cut.

@user-ll9qk2el4d

5 күн бұрын

1. The commisioners are appointed by the Governor (Newsome) 2. Confirmed by the Senate (Democrats make up the majority) 3. Term Length: Commissioners serve six-year terms. From what I've researched, Gov. Newsome has been accused of being too cozy with PG&E. The company donated to Newsome's campaign and the governor set up a Wildfire Insurance Fund with taxpayer money to help the company. From what I can tell, this is politics as ususal. I scratch your back, you scratch mine.

@lambertlum1087

4 күн бұрын

@@celebrityrog Solar is free as long as the sun is shining. As soon as the night descends, solar is useless. That Tesla needs overnight charging, and PG&E is your supplier.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

Which utility company are you are you invested in to?

@kerokupo

Күн бұрын

utilities bought the cpuc workers. what are you smoking

NO NO NO, Solar was always meant to be used “Off grid” that’s means do not connect to Babylons grid, you can’t win playing their game

I use solar in Texas with absolutely no incentives. It has value to me for disaster recovery and I also use it to lower my air conditioning bill. Power companies are trying to strangle solar before it destroys them.

@erictoulon5946

Күн бұрын

While I get a credit it’s very little. I’m planning on expanding my system we have the highest rates in the country and also have incredibly dirty power. I think power is only going to become more expensive and less reliable. If people think the people running the show have competency or character they are idiots

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

Solar cannot destroy anyone as it only runs at full power production 6 hours a day. Utilities have to back it up 100% which costs them money.

@macmcleod1188

18 сағат бұрын

@@donaldkasper8346 Nah, solar plus batteries can cut your electricity bill in half from what it is today. I use 1/2 to 2/3 of my electricity during the day between 1pm and 7pm. I have friends with full systems and their utility bills are crazy low- even with the higher grid connection fees.

Solar is only for people who can build/install/maintain it themselves. If you don't OWN your system you have to deal with money hungry companies. And because the components got ridiculously cheap in the last decade (panels, batteries etc) there's no excuse not to be energy independent. And no, I'm NOT rich (poverty level income) and have no formal education in engineering or electricity. Yet, I run my place on 100% solar energy all year long for 14 years now.

@JBoy340a

5 күн бұрын

Nice. We are not off grid, but with solar panels/tiles and batteries have no net electric bill for the year.

@alexarzamendi9475

5 күн бұрын

It's easy to run solar if you live in a cuckshed on abject poverty. This reel.is oriented to real homeowners who have at least 4000sf of living space

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

There is plenty of excuse to be on the grid. Let us start with the $100k cost and 20 year lifespan of the system. Then lets talk about the sun moves but your roof does not, creating inefficiency. Then battery backup is $20k, warrantied 5 years, and runs for a few hours.

That’s what happens when NEWSOME ate PG & e’s food at the laundry restaurant 😂

This video completely ignores the reasons for changing from NEM 2 to 3. 1 to 1 credits are no longer feasible due to our own success in solar adoption.

@JBoy340a

5 күн бұрын

we could have dropped down the credits much slower. Why 1:1 -> 4:1 all at once? Why not 1:1 -> 1.5:1 ... 2->1 with 10 years or more between each step. Solar technology is getting better each day. This would have let people benefit from their new solar purchase in 2024 and beyond much longer.

@gregorypenetrante1272

5 күн бұрын

Show me the numbers

@jessnunez7556

4 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@BuhodePiedra

4 күн бұрын

No it’s due to greed and manipulative policy. They claim they make less after more people install.. but what they should be under scoring is the huge amount of reduced cost is maintenance when there are thousands of mini energy plants rather than one large centralized one, and the wholesale/retail sales of kwh that they are making a killing on! Disingenuous to say otherwise

@jessnunez7556

4 күн бұрын

@@BuhodePiedra wrong. Utilities are forced to “buy” the excess energy regardless if they need it. Therefore making it a loss to the utilities. The prior NEM rates were more than the wholesale cost of energy. Utilities plan ahead when purchasing electricity and negotiate rates. Imagine a fast food chain being forced by government to purchase uneaten food from customers sometimes at a higher cost.

can we use plastic straws again?

Rule of thumb I tell people, install should be less than $3 per watt BEFORE tax incentives and it needs to pay for itself in less than 10 years. The going rate for residential solar PV install in California I've been seeing is around $2-$2.50 per watt installed BEFORE tax incentives. Most of the costs associated with Solar PV in the USA are related to soft costs as the hardware and labor is at most a $1.5 per watt installed.

@LWRC

5 күн бұрын

Rule of thumb - DO NOT INSTALL SOLAR AT ANY COST! It is much cheaper to pay the utility and conserve on your own and not deal with the stupidity and insanity these solar companies put you through! If you like to have your life turned upside down and have to battle the solar company at every turn - go solar. If you like to waste money with the solar companaies and spend a lot more than you spend on regular electric bill - go solar. If you like to loose sleep for months end because this is causing you much more with NO END IN SIGHT!!! - Go solar! GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STAY THE F OUT OF PEOPLE'S BUSINESS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY!!!

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

Very unrealistic pricing considering that the battery itself costs around $1+ per watt. 😂

@imzjustplayin

4 күн бұрын

@@ProServSalesConsulting Battery isn't required and the pricing I was suggesting was just solar PV, not including battery.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

@@imzjustplayin why would you refer to that pricing guide for folks in California if solar in CA doesn’t make sense without the battery? 🤮

@imzjustplayin

4 күн бұрын

@@ProServSalesConsulting Solar PV does make sense in California w/o the battery on NEM 3.0 so long as the install cost is low enough.

And they wondering why our climate change and storms in places never happened before.. Greedy politicians and industry have been making decisions about our future..

@gryffon5213

4 күн бұрын

Exactly! It's no wonder why PG&E voted to slash the incentives because the consumers were actually getting credits, and the poor giant company of PG&E was losing out on the money its CEOs could use to buy their third yacht

it’s a good thing. solar was too heavily subsidized. the outrageous NEM rates and policy (using the grid as a battery), coupled with the transfer of residential tax credits to solar providers, made it a mad rush to escape utility bills. the unavoidable grid costs are shifted to everyone else who are lower income, lower credit customers. it was the worst type of public policy-subsidizing the wealthy for something the wealthy wouldn’t do unless they had short pay back period. the chickens have come home to roost.

@gregorypenetrante1272

5 күн бұрын

I disagree. And now the rich get rich enjoy their solar and what's left of us middle class can't even afford solar anymore. At least under the old subsidies, we had a fighting chance at obtaining solar systems. I know many clients who cancelled their solar builds after they ran the new numbers.

@lambertlum1087

4 күн бұрын

Can we all go back to coal-fired plants? I just want cheap electricity.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

The homeowners with lower income could always be smart enough to opt for a Power a purchase agreement which provides savings immediately.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

@@gregorypenetrante1272Have you ever heard of a Power Purchase agreement? My customers usually have a low range 600 credit score and lower/middle income. Day 1 savings 💪

@CJinsoo

4 күн бұрын

@@ProServSalesConsulting and/or be patient enough to live with longer payback periods. the former NEM payment rates are a great example of government responding to rent seeking interests (solar providers, and enviro. cult lobby).

With the decline in Commiefornia period….. why stay?

Nobody tells you about the True Up. Getting solar was a big mistake.

Woman is complaining free subsidies did not last forever when the state is bankrupt, which is probably the entire basis for the emergency pricing adjustment.

Government trying find ways to tax you for it. If you’re of the grid you’ll definitely need it.

Why should non-solar customers pay for those wealthy enough to install solar.

@gregorypenetrante1272

5 күн бұрын

The fact is they are NOT. We should be thankful that solar owners are contributing back to the grid and restoring some lost capacity!

@imzjustplayin

4 күн бұрын

Lies by the utility company. The utility companies if they had the choice would ban solar PV entirely. The utility companies argue that low usage customers are being "subsidized" by high usage customers even if they don't have Solar PV. Their funny math basically says anybody that isn't paying gobs of money to the utility company is a parasite and it's completely ridiculous. If the utility companies keep acting hostile towards Solar PV customers, many will just go off-grid and the utility companies will say "that isn't fair".

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

Less stress on the grid is a better thing. Also, you don’t need to be rich in order to go solar. You just need to be able to comprehend the options available to you.

@Shawn_M

2 күн бұрын

I never understood this argument. If my neighbor gets solar and I don't, how does that affect my bill? I don't see how it does.

@jpjp3873

2 күн бұрын

@@Shawn_MThe utility company has to keep their profits up somehow. Too much solar hurts their bottom line!😂

I'm off grid still in california but I'm on my rural land with solar generator I'd rather live my life with out pge they just want are money go back and look how much pge charged in the 80s you will be amazed

If only people could afford to buy a solar system and Install them them self

Keep showing a house roof covered in trees.

6:40 That would be Gov. Newsom, he is our favorite dictator.

nice story, but what are the numbers that these two sides are using to make these decisions? Hard to tell which side is 'full of it' without the details.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

If you’ve lived in California long enough, you’d know that the grid has been overloaded for years and the focus should be on battery incentives to get people off of the grid.

And just wait until you need a roofing job. Oh My! A bit short sighted, are we?

They should also cut the subsidies to low income families.

They need to keep this program going!

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

Subsidies cost big money. Billions. And in the meantime, the state is bankrupt.

Should I pay 15% more for electricity? It’s a better savings to replace my windows and roof plus replace my old furnace with heat pump. The ROI is better.

If California had to build more power plants isn't that more costly and time consuming than subsidizing solar? Also why isnt there a net savings from not having to add cost because of solar

If you want a negative reason to going solar then look to Australia. The power companies have started making a charge for taking the excess power from the house, so you have to pay them to export??????? That really makes it a worthwhile project. 😮 They do not want you to be outside the system whatsoever.

So now it’s not a good idea for Cali to go green? Aren’t they the leader we are all supposed to follow?

Same situation on EV’s. CA push hard for EV’s, but now want to punish the same drivers by charging 3 cents per mile driven, now that CA no longer gets tax monies from gas stations. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

Mileage tax is stupid. Either put the tax on the vehicle registration based upon GVWR or just have it come out of the general fund. Gas taxes aren't even used towards roads but directly into the general fund anyway.

@shelbynamels7948

4 күн бұрын

@@imzjustplayin i have no problem paying only for the road i use based on how much gas i use to travel that distance.

@shelbynamels7948

4 күн бұрын

that was something that could have been and in fact has been foreseen by some from the very start. the problem takes on even bigger dimensions when we are talking about EV trucks. They have to file and pay roadtax for every state they travel thru based on how many miles they travelled and how much fuel they bought.

@imzjustplayin

4 күн бұрын

@@shelbynamels7948 Yes but with the transition to EV and low fuel consumption cars, it creates revenue issues for road work. Fuel taxes don't even go to repairing the roads anyway.

In Texas I asked how much to install 50 solar panels (305watt) on the ground and the electrician said $50K. Solar panels in 2024 cost $200 for a 400watt panel. Why the installers need so much money to install?

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

1. Roof damage liability. 2. Storm damage liability. 3. Fire liability.

Utility scale solar, wind, and storage are the real green solutions. Residential rooftop solar is less about "going green" and more about politics and independence. If you want to go "off-the-grid", do it. However, small piecemeal personally owned solar panels are difficult to centrally manage and integrate into the grid. If you really care about the environment, switch to an EV, swap out gas appliances, and invest in clean energy companies.

Thanks governor 🖕

Then we keep the power.

Install batteries go off grid Pay nothing

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

Solar $100k. Battery backup for 6 hours, $20k. Solar warrantied 20 years. Battery warrantied 5 years.

California should clear the path for solar installations and than let contractors bundle up the cost of an entire off grid system into a monthly payment like a car payment. Than consumers just pay a monthly bill like paying the utilities but they are generating and storing their own power

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

Why would you pay someone else after paying to store your own power? Batteries last a few years, costs tens of thousands, and don't run long.

Thank God I live in AZ where my solar panels get me large credits every month!! I haven't had a bill on my electricity in over a year and I run my AC Unit 24/7.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

One of the very few smart people in this thread. 💯

@JBoy340a

4 күн бұрын

We have the same in CA since we are on NEM 2. But, the NEM 3 laws which effect only new installations, mean it is much harder to get the bill elimination or reduction. They went from 1:1 credits to 4:1.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

@@JBoy340a it’s not that hard if you have enough roof space. I usually get my PPA customers to 120% offset and still save them money on their current electricity cost.

@promx96

2 күн бұрын

@@ProServSalesConsultingPPA’s are terrible probably the dumbest thing about solar

NREL reports all in cots of residential Solar at $3/watt. Industrial size solar farms are 1/3rd the price $1/watt. Why pay three times as much for something. Yes the subsidies are ridiculous and raise overall grid costs. See CA and ZtX for more details.

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

The reason is because the consumer gets that benefit directly. Residential Solar PV is coming down in costs but it's still far higher here in the USA than it is in Europe. The biggest benefit with residential solar PV is not having to procure land nor having to increase transmission capacity.

Tesla owners are sweating

They should pay you close to what you pay for a kwh. Selfish jerks. Meanwhile power bills keep going up. Yet they claim there is too much solar ? Why is peak power prices during the day then ??

When I drive around where I live they are building new home everywhere, most of themes have solar, the funny thing is more than half of those homes the panels face the wrong way, but they did get to check off that they have solar.

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

Panels are so cheap that it doesn't really matter too much which direction you install them. Yes there are ideal angles and azimuth but it's better to have something than to have nothing. The current approach to solar is wrong. They need to be installing as much solar PV as possible at the lowest cost per watt as possible and if there is excess capacity, shut or shunt the power only for as long as necessary.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

That’s because the requirement for all new residential structures in CA. The builders don’t place those panels with your best interest in mind. 😂

Of course it’s worth it. You’re saving the planet, not saving money. :)

@seanm3226

2 күн бұрын

That’s the funny part. People tying themselves in knots to “save” a planet that doesn’t need to be saved.

It’s the same as every business. They lure you in then the con you.

P.U.C members are appointed by the governor, need I say more.

They want the economy to get worse by cutting jobs and have people behind on their bills causing late fees. Also you creating free electricity for the grid so they can sell it back to you or your neighbors at a higher price. It’s a Win Win for utilities.

Solar NEEDS government subsidies to survive, not a Joke, 😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂

@stevelopez372

2 күн бұрын

Obviously for older Housing Stock. New homes require solar systems no longer an option. The State wants Green, if it hurts working families too bad. Thanks to Newsome and his ilk.

@promx96

2 күн бұрын

your clearly clueless about solar public utilities backed government is whats killing solar

@erictoulon5946

Күн бұрын

Every natural resource used for energy is directly subsidized and in a few cases like coal in particular indirectly if it wasn’t electricity would be at least four times more expensive. It’s the same thing with our food if farmers weren’t subsidized many of them would go out of business and with fewer farmers there would be less competition driving prices up. The fact of the matter is solar makes electric rates more equitable for the people who use a lot of electricity whose usage padded the utilities pockets. You’ve got everything reversed.

If we treat this like sports, we would have replaced these people in power instantly and turn them into none profit

made a mistake by voting for Newsom

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

Much respect for owning up to that.

The systems being pushed in California are priced double for double the output needed and pretending the cost of electricity has risen historically at 20% per year and will continue to do so forever. They are offering these systems with 25 year mortgages. Our house is 600 Sq ft living space, modern, well insulated, all electric with mini split heating/cooling, Marvin windows, launder cold water only, everything lighting is LED, run our dishwasher every other night after 9 pm. We drive a Prius for crying out loud. Haven't we suffered enough?] The payment for the "no money down" system will start at about $200 per month, going to about double that over the 25 years leaving you with a worn out system you have paid 90 grand for. I am 78 years old. If they can promise me good health for the next 50 years, enjoying KZread and the price is right, I'll do it.

in the video they said the new rates only apply to new customers. Then why is the family in the story that has had panels for 20 years have to pay the new rates? moments before in the video they said the new pricing would only affect new customers

@Shawn_M

2 күн бұрын

They wouldn't so they were a bad example.

Yeah the policy goes against our goals. A place like Germany is well over 30% solar already due to friendly policy. We just can’t help but extort ourselves.. even when it goes against it stated goals of carbon neutrality!

Bait and switch. Heck no!

They will still vote blue. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

@JBoy340a

5 күн бұрын

The parties do not matter. The utilities own politicians on both sides of the aisle. Money talks louder than voters.

You can tell the reporters didn’t do their homework in this segment. Back in 2022, there was a proceeding before the California Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to “reform” net energy metering (NEM) tariffs. A number of parties warned the PUC that the planned NEM tariff changes, e.g., reducing compensation rates for electricity exported by home owners who had installed solar panels, charging long time solar panel owners a net benefits charge, etc., would make future installation of solar panels by other home owners far less attractive. The primary rationale for these short-sighted changes was literally “equity”. The parties seeking to change NEM (ALL Left-leaning environmental and SJW groups) justified proposed changes on the need to reduce what they called a “cost shift” impacting “poorer and nonwhite ratepayers” who had not yet installed solar panels on their homes. I kid you not that was literally what several parties submitted as justifications in the administrative proceeding. The Commission approved almost all the so-called NEM tariff reforms these groups wanted. Now the solar panel market in California is in disarray with demand substantially reduced. Given California’s higher than the norm electricity rates, one would think maybe more homeowners would opt to install solar panels. The fact that they’re not doing so speaks volumes.

@donaldkasper8346

18 сағат бұрын

1. You can put anything you want on your roof but your homeowners insurance may drop you, not want the liability of roof damage. 2. $100k lien on your property title. You sell, you have to sell the policy to the buyer or pay off the panels to the solar company.

Which is why when there is a subsidy you want to look at the cost without the subsidy as it can be removed at anytime. You have to decide if you are willing to take on that cost before getting into bed with the government.

@shelbynamels7948

4 күн бұрын

so true. anything that requires me to include it in my tax return in hopes of getting my money back by increasing my refund I look at askance right from the start.

Selling and buying from solar should be one for one... I'm lucky im on NEM 1.0, zero chance i would buy it these days...

@Shawn_M

2 күн бұрын

I could accept reducing the amount they pay us for excess power. Like from retail to wholesale. But they slashed it with NEM 3. If the goal is to go renewable that's taking 5 steps backwards

@GreggK6EGG

2 күн бұрын

Why would you accept them reducing the amount they pay us for excess power? The power companies make the power for much much less then we can ever make it.. Get rid of that tax incentives instead.... Free market it.

No it’s not….

So we disincentivized people to go solar, while requiring no more gas cars be sold in California by 2035. I guess the politicians don’t know how much electricity an electric car really uses. So where are we going to get all of this electricity to charge up all the new electric cars in the next 10 years. The utility companies all ready ask electric car owners to not charge their cars in the middle of the day when there’s a heat wave because there’s not enough power for all the air conditioners and the current number of electric cars to be charging. California is broken!

I thought many installed solar to reduce their carbon footprint, I guess it was all about the money all along.

its not worth it unless you electric bill is over $500 a month

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

Not true in the slightest. The biggest factor is the cost per watt install and whether the system will pay for itself prior to you moving out. Rule of thumb I tell people, install should be less than $3 per watt BEFORE tax incentives and it needs to pay for itself in less than 10 years. The going rate for residential solar PV install in California I've been seeing is around $2-$2.50 per watt installed BEFORE tax incentives. Most of the costs associated with Solar PV in the USA are related to soft costs as the hardware and labor is at most a $1.5 per watt installed.

@RyanJohnson-pz4tb

5 күн бұрын

@@imzjustplayin numbers don't make since electric bill is $100 a month $18,000 plus for solar panels. Solar panels last 25-30 years and the gov doesn't allow you to sale back power.

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

@@RyanJohnson-pz4tb Your numbers are wrong. You say the government doesn't allow you to sell back power, that depends on the electric utility. In my area, excess production exceeding usage is paid between $0.08-$0.10 per kwh. They have retail energy credits which is if the customer uses 1000KWH per month and they feed into the grid 1000KWH per month, they'll be credited and after the minimum monthly charge, be effectively zero'd out. Now if the customer only uses 100KWH and they feed 1000KWH, they'll only get retail credit on the first 100KWH and they'll get baseload rates on the 900KWH they feed into the grid. NEM3 is more dynamic where pricing is on a 15 minute basis so electricity produced during April at 12pm is worth far less than electricity produced at 8PM in October during a heat wave which is why the push for batteries. Again, as I said before, if the system doesn't pay for itself within 10 years, I don't recommend Solar.

@RyanJohnson-pz4tb

5 күн бұрын

@@imzjustplayin math don't math for me dude maybe for homes that are 2500 sqf or more with no natural gas lines. Titan solar the countries largest solar company just went out of business on June 16 2024.

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

@@RyanJohnson-pz4tb I know people with 1000sqft houses that have electric bills exceeding $500 per month. As I said before, if the system doesn't pay for itself within 10 years, don't bother. You keep throwing numbers around and I'm saying they're completely meaningless. It doesn't matter if your electric bill is $30 per month or $1000 per month, if the system pays for itself in less than 10 years, it's an acceptable deal and if it pays for itself in 5 years, it's a great deal. You need to understand that the cost of the system install in relation to your electric bill is the only thing that matters as the math can pencil out pretty easily especially if you use solar calculation software which factors in insolation, utility rate schedules, installation costs, tax credits, etc.

Home owners are realizing that solar energy during the day is pretty much matching the total demand for the state lol, and their inefficient system can't really match large scale deployment in deserts..

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

It doesn't need to match large scale deployment, just at the very minimum offset their own usage.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

@@imzjustplayinexactly.

I knew there was maintenance need to be done on the solor cells and can be unreliable. 3:35

@Shawn_M

2 күн бұрын

No maintenance on solar cells. They always produce and last at least 20 years. It's the electronics that convert DC to AC and connect to the grid.

Freedom Forever offers a “Production guarantee which would’ve earned these people a reimbursement for the 7 months their system wasn’t functioning. Let me know if I can help you save money on a solar system with immediate saving on a “Power Purchase Agreement “.

If solar technology was cost effective it wouldn't need to depend on incentives from the electric company and would be beneficial on its own. Think about it its benefits are dependent on thr same industry it claims to replace.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

That’s only if you purchase the system which is entirely stupid in itself and shows lack of financial planning. A Power Purchase agreement is the way to go.

Everybody wants something for nothing, if you can afford it get a battery.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

You can definitely afford it if you can pay your current electricity bill.

Photovoltaic electricity generation is nearly worthless unless charging storage. Wholesale electricity purchased a day head in the midwest offseason is less than $0.03 kWh. That is grid quality electricity. Southern California has the most expensive grid electricity in the USA with bankrupt power grids and blackouts. It is a forced sale of solar photovoltaic electricity to the power grid from the homeowner. The power grid can not decline it. It is not steady grid quality electricity. It needs high availability of makeup electricity running at high fuel costs. There is much less saving on fuel than the percentage of renewable energy claims being used. What has taken place is a much more costly electricity for everybody when including the cost of the solar panels. Those photovoltaic panels are only marginally economically viable with large government subsidies. The wind and solar industry is now very mature. It is not going to get major steps in becoming more affordable. Nothing except chaging storage can make these sources of electricity dispatchable electricity. If they could have storage of 4 hours that would make them a fuel saving alternative, but they don't do that. With the cost of storage included in the total cost then a representative cost comparison can be made.

@promx96

2 күн бұрын

sounds like you need to research nema laws

Every home on the Block is an industrial power station selling power at premium price to those who can't afford solar panels to pay for the system with the side benefit of free electricity while over producing. Apps that push electricity out of the battery when the rate is high and charge the battery when the rate is low karma in a deregulated Market algorithms selling your power at the highest price with premium systems. Size right to handle your air conditioning and basics with a basic system without all the intellectual property applications consuming all the power that you make within the month during the month are the candles on the cake. Selling power to the grid is unsustainable at 30 cents a kilowatt I was going solar is supposed to make Power cost go down not up for everybody. My state regulated solar power plant a place upon me is called the dream rate. I don't need a battery, would I deliver is held into reserve on my credit until the end of the month and what I don't use I get 8 cents a kilowatt compared to the 22-cent rate everybody pays that is not industrial. It makes sense for me to use what I produce and if I use a little bit extra it's a really small bill, there is no profit to pay for the system except for the savings. I bought it with cash installed it myself the electric utility inspected it and I could have just burned the money some other way and like all money it's gone, and my savings continue. Electric heat pump instead of fuel oil in the spring and fall. My savings have been immense and I am thrilled with no tax rebate or anything, especially credit. Buying it on credit destroys everything and requires such a high price. Start with four panels instead of 40, paying cash money that you might have spent at the casino and lost. Buying on credit is the destroyer of all of it, transferring the bill to those who can least afford it was a mysterious mathematical magical credit that equals money and eternal debt plus interest. You think you have bought it but in actuality the credit company owns it and is using you to get rich as you similarly hope to be. Who doesn't want an electric meter bringing in $1,000 a month.

Bait and Switch!

It's PGE screw them

Get Newsom out ASAP California!!!!

@raydonovan9013

7 күн бұрын

He doesn’t work for the People. He helps wealthy friends stay rich. It’s going to catch up with him. The suffering he’s caused is endless.

@Sean-C

7 күн бұрын

wait until he is the president of the US. 8 years of Newsom!

@ssuwandi3240

7 күн бұрын

The insurance coverage is defect if not covering the risk of non subsidies.

@jasonsmith1143

6 күн бұрын

was told by realtor that you must buy or lease solar when purchasing a New home. don't know if this is true or false

@e5b7-wr811ouhih

6 күн бұрын

You think the solar incentive would've stayed under a different governor? What do you think happens when too many folks install solar panels to the point where we have a surplus everyday, which is the case now.

That’s what happen when you vote blue.

Solar fan boys. I don't have Solar so my roof is not damaged plus I keep.30 plus grand in my bank account and my electric and gas bill together with all fees cost me 77 average a month. Solar is a waste of money unless you are off grid. Would rather pay for a whole house generator powered by nat gas. .

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

77/month for both utilities just means you got that $30k in your bank from being frugal with everything. Solar is worth it if your electricity bill is $100+/month and it doesn’t damage the roof if the company knows what they’re doing.

@andredaedone7732

4 күн бұрын

@@ProServSalesConsulting The 30k I quoted was from not buying Solar. But I am super cheap 😆.

@JBoy340a

4 күн бұрын

I get a check back much of the year from my solar. We went from about $5K/year for electricity to under $120/year thanks to solar and batteries. We should pay for the system in 8 years.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

@@andredaedone7732 I was going to ask you if I can borrow $5k from the $30k. 😂

@promx96

2 күн бұрын

the public utility companys sends me a check at the end of every year of about 3 grand not to mention i dont pay a dime in electricity and im almost done paying off my solar panels in 2 years then i wont have an electricity bill at all safe to say solar is paying me for having it installed 77 dollars a month for the rest of your life sounds like a money pit to me 😂 haha clueless

Unintentionally deceptive report. Let me explain . . . There are 2 entities regarding solar power. 1) The industry representing home solar installers, that wants to continue putting solar panels on homes, with home owners taking out loans to finance the solar panels, and paying them off over decades 2) The group that wants to build industrial level solar farms in the desert, that along with wind and battery storage will replace all natural gas power plants . . . There is an argument that the "industrial" production of energy via solar, wind, and battery storage will "far exceed" the energy production of putting solar on individual homes. So why invest millions of dollars to 'subsidize' the home solar industry, when it's not going to benefit the majority of California homeowners (just the handful of wealthy individuals who put solar on their homes) . . . I believe the PUC took that stance. There is a much bigger upside to the industrial production of energy (and if you follow someone like Tony Seba, he suggests that ultimately grid level battery storage technology will offset the need to create an infinite amount of solar generation) . . . Some of the people in this report represent the traditional "home solar installation" industry (and the financing industry connected to it), and many companies will go out of business as the industry shifts from home based solar to industrial level energy production . . . Thus, when I say the report is "unintentionally deceptive," I'm saying that it doesn't clearly distinguish between the "2 sides" (home solar vs industrial solar) - They are 2 competing ecosystems, and if industrial solar wins out (as PUC is betting on) it will deplete the home solar industry from what it was 5 years ago . . . The good news is that if solar, wind, battery can produce at projected levels, everyone's energy bill will drop significantly over the next 10 years.

@LWRC

5 күн бұрын

That's never going to happen! Solar and wind power generation is going nowhere and isn't going to offset the fossil fuel industry anytime in the near future. The energy density of fossil fuels is too great for any batteries or solar panels to offset that easily!

@btk1243

5 күн бұрын

@@LWRC Thanks for the comment. What I would suggest that you are missing in your analysis is the economic concept that the "cheapest" energy source wins. Twenty years ago, coal companies claimed they were "essential," but the natural gas companies cleaned house, because a natural gas plant is cheaper to operate than a coal plant . . . Similarly, solar, wind, and battery storage is much cheaper to operate than natural gas. The price of solar cells and of battery storage continue to plummet . . . It's not a coincidence that the government of Saudi Arabia is investing billions of dollars in solar, wind, and battery storage technologies. They see the writing on the wall.

@LWRC

5 күн бұрын

@@btk1243 Of course. But you fail to realize that using fossil fuels to convert into electrical energy, transporting it across the grid, then putting it into batteries and then using electric motors to convert that energy into mechanical energy is NOT cheap nor efficient! People and governments are doing this for one reason and one reason along - to make money! End to end energy analysis - there is no savings. It actually costs more! Batteries will not approach the energy density of diesel fuel anytime soon. Until then, you can play around with your battery cars all you want but don't have governments shove this nonsense down our throats as we do not want it. Now tell us how you plan to violate the laws of thermodynamics!

@lambertlum1087

4 күн бұрын

@@btk1243 If the writing is on the wall, then why are we adding subsidies to favor one side or another? The market will facilitate new technologies according to their economic efficiencies, without the need for government intervention. If solar fails in the market without government subsidies, then so be it.

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

You don’t need to be wealthy in order to go solar. If you have at least a 600+ credit score then you can get a power purchase agreement.

Solar should be provided by government. No more power plants. Each home is a powerhouse..😮😊

what happens when it hails...?

@JBoy340a

5 күн бұрын

Are you from California? Most of the hail I have experienced in CA is small and the hailstones are the size of BBs or less.

@marktwaine9344

5 күн бұрын

@@JBoy340a thousands add up...and if the roof leaks, they got to come off for repair...

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

The jail doesn’t damage the panels and if it does then they get replaced for free. The roof shouldn’t leak because the area the panels are installed needs to be inspected and passed prior to installation. I work in both roofing and solar.

I live in a 4 bedroom house in Florida. My annual electric bill is just under $1,100 a year. I’ll not live long enough for solar to pay for itself. I guess solar panels are good for holding your roof down in a hurricane but other than that I just don’t get it

@ProServSalesConsulting

4 күн бұрын

I can save you money from day one with a power purchase agreement.

@macmcleod1188

3 күн бұрын

You can put in a 1 ton solar/AC powered air conditioning unit for about 1,500 plus 1,000 in panels to support it. It won't be grid tied and it will lower your electric bill by about $30 per month at 12c/kwh and extend the life of your existing Central air conditioning unit. Plus it will work if your AC goes out during the day for about 7 hours per day. I also use a small set of panels and a solar battery lasts generator to keep my freezer and refrigerator going during a recent 7-Day outage. That saved me about $200 worth of food. I don't think grid-tied solar is worth it but you can substantially lower your bill with a solar powered air conditioner.

@atlantasailor1

3 күн бұрын

I am in atlanta and spend about $3500 Per year.

@ProServSalesConsulting

3 күн бұрын

@@atlantasailor1 let’s get you set up with a Power Purchase Agreement so you can save on that $3500.

Unions dont like solar

Its all a scam

Oops 😮

Solar installation itself is a big mistake anyway. Not much benefit - Southwest Sun Solar is the name of the company. They will tell you, the panels do not harvest enough. Why install panels that won’t do the job right? But of course they got the incentives as installer

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

Solar can and does make sense but you have to balance it with the cost of the install.

@JBoy340a

5 күн бұрын

Solar and batteries have eliminated our electric bill and keep the home going through a couple of blackouts. That includes the power to charge EVs.

Leave it to CA to f*** up a good thing with reducing the incentives. What happens when you have replace your roof in 30 yrs? How much more with that add to the cost when roofer has to remove panels? There goes your electricity savings into a roofers pockets.

Just like the push for Electric Vehicles…now the gas tax is declining and money disappearing as more EV are purchased. Same is the PG&E profits. Now they’re seeing less money and that can’t happen.

You can tell the Californians that moved to my state as they quickly put solar on their roofs and have three or four cars parked on the driveway and street.

Liberal govt. business as usual

Electric companies got greedy. Solar was taking away their earnings. How is it reasonable to require all new homes have solar but it would take 10-15 years to break even under the new agreement? I have solar in Northern California and under the new agreement it costs me $0.14-0.34 kwh to purchase electricity but it only cost my utility company $0.07 to purchase the excess from me. installing a battery is not worth it at this time until there are more incentives to do so.

@imzjustplayin

5 күн бұрын

It means you're overpaying for that agreement. Solar PV installed at $2 per watt before tax incentives amortized over 25 years is about $0.07 per kwh. Solar PV in the USA costs about double what it does everywhere else.

@macmcleod1188

3 күн бұрын

I need electric companies were going to change the deal all over the country and they have. One of the other stinky things they're doing is raising the grid connection fee so you pay more even if you use

🤣🤣

Nice job democrats! Another loss for common sense and residents.

Solar should be provided by government. No more power plants. Each home is a powerhouse..😮😊