Witcher 3 - Triss vs Yennefer: Who Should You Choose?

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Witcher 3 | Triss vs Yennefer - Who Should You Choose?
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0:00 Team Triss, Team Yennefer, or Team Brewess?
1:00 The Crimes of Book Triss
7:14 Book Yennefer is... a lot
13:56 Between the Books & Games
14:26 Why Geralt Broke Up with Triss Pre-Witcher 3
19:27 Witcher 3
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  • @simakkaresz
    @simakkaresz Жыл бұрын

    Roach is the only one deserves Geralt's love and commitment ❤

  • @benl2140

    @benl2140

    Жыл бұрын

    She'll literally teleport across oceans and continents for him.

  • @tuldorelow9687

    @tuldorelow9687

    Жыл бұрын

    @@benl2140 yet small fence stops her... well, noone is perfect :'D

  • @DaRealShayd

    @DaRealShayd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tuldorelow9687 FOR REAL💀💀

  • @PaTrick-cf6ev

    @PaTrick-cf6ev

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm on my 2nd Roach I believe, used to be brown, now he's dark grey. Changed after someone told me I will find a horse in the stables as a reward for some quest.

  • @tuldorelow9687

    @tuldorelow9687

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PaTrick-cf6ev Guess you told Ciri to meet her sh*t-daddy but refused gold - if you do that he offer you grey horse.

  • @baldwinthefourth4098
    @baldwinthefourth4098 Жыл бұрын

    Bro really wants to start a war 💀

  • @Nathan_Coley

    @Nathan_Coley

    Жыл бұрын

    He chose violence today. 🤣😂

  • @igorpolotai

    @igorpolotai

    Жыл бұрын

    "Hmm, I wonder what is the fastest way to start a nuclear war."

  • @writerlairchannel2636

    @writerlairchannel2636

    Жыл бұрын

    So that's how 3rd World War started😂

  • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

    @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

    Жыл бұрын

    The Triss VS Yennefer Thirst War was the most devastating conflict on the Continent. The casualties from every Nilfgaardian invasion combined were trivial by comparison.

  • @grigorov1914

    @grigorov1914

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation and only Shani simps have the strength to end it

  • @daith_izumi
    @daith_izumi4 ай бұрын

    Neon Knight: Triss or Yen? Me and Zanny: *KEIRA METZ!!!!*

  • @arpanchakraborty908

    @arpanchakraborty908

    2 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah

  • @ppoppovics

    @ppoppovics

    Ай бұрын

    Me: Corinne Tilly 🤣

  • @Smlarg

    @Smlarg

    Ай бұрын

    Pretty sure he went triss

  • @uszkera

    @uszkera

    Ай бұрын

    Me: The Iron Maiden

  • @MattiK2609

    @MattiK2609

    Ай бұрын

    Me: CIIIIIIRIIIIIII!!!!

  • @raiyandansson
    @raiyandansson16 күн бұрын

    The true canon ending is Geralt chooses both and gets tied up in an inn's bed at the end.

  • @pedrolatimer7889

    @pedrolatimer7889

    41 минут бұрын

    If you ask me since almost everyone picked both, it should be considered the canon ending. 😂

  • @kamram3353
    @kamram3353 Жыл бұрын

    The two universal constants: Roach and Dandelion

  • @januszjanusz2002

    @januszjanusz2002

    Жыл бұрын

    Well Roach is like you only date girls named Anna and call it constant :)

  • @ZinoAmare

    @ZinoAmare

    22 күн бұрын

    Dandelion was fecking annoying I would have killed him if I could xD

  • @chad_b
    @chad_b Жыл бұрын

    I'm so excited at the thought of a Witcher 1 remake. I'd love to play an updated modern version

  • @makimakipapura7543

    @makimakipapura7543

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually prefer the Witcher 1 over the later games. Don't know why it's getting a remake, but I don't really mind.

  • @Vigilant69

    @Vigilant69

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@makimakipapura7543 it's getting a remake because it looks like shit, understandably so due to almost 2 decades of release

  • @whysoserious4464

    @whysoserious4464

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Vigilant69 was it Witcher 1 or 2 getting a update?

  • @clevelandbrown4571

    @clevelandbrown4571

    Жыл бұрын

    They better have the cards after every sexy time or no buy.

  • @christopherwray4788

    @christopherwray4788

    Жыл бұрын

    @@makimakipapura7543You are not unique or special for having this obviously wrong opinion. Cringe only, just cringe.

  • @yuukiastin
    @yuukiastinАй бұрын

    "Geralt on the other hand, is a deep thinker in the least helpful way possible" is a quote that's so undeniably true it's making me laugh. I'm glad you talk about The witcher with both the game AND the books knowledge, your videos are very nice to listen to while working

  • @jozefcyran2589

    @jozefcyran2589

    Ай бұрын

    as someone from Poland I'm so happy that people take time and care to analyze the characters in the books and go beyond the game depictions or superficial analyses. And that quote is a perfect encapsulation of Geralt, already on Thaned Vilgefortz sees Geralt as a ultimately impotent (in the political sense) thinker

  • @darkshadowrain2118
    @darkshadowrain211810 ай бұрын

    I jumped into Witcher 3 first too, this helped me understand the history with Triss and Yen and not just the games, but to books too. Thank you!

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    Simply read the books, lol?

  • @ragnarok4241

    @ragnarok4241

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Film_SushiIMAGINE LOOOL

  • @SPB___

    @SPB___

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Film_Sushican you just st fu maybe? Why you have to be a dbag in every comment?

  • @thelastcrow5660
    @thelastcrow5660 Жыл бұрын

    Yennefer's patience with Triss never ceases to amaze me. It's almost like she sees her as a naive child who can do no wrong.

  • @M..n..M

    @M..n..M

    Жыл бұрын

    mmmm in the games or in the books? because SPOILERS - - - - - - - - - in the books it is more complicated than that, she is really mean when she has to (I think Yen even more than Geralt has all the reasons to punch Triss into the stratosphere and not just for sentimental reasons), but Triss also helps her a lot a couple of times later on. I don't remember if she's the one that gives her the idea of how to escape the lodge (*edit: no, as few people pointed out that's Fringilla and Triss doesn't do anything there*) but after she still protects her from the lodge before finding Ciri. At more than one points Yen NEEDS Triss as her only ally and at the same time she's screwed over multiple times by her.

  • @whysoserious4464

    @whysoserious4464

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@M..n..M didn't Yen and Gearlt die

  • @olmeno

    @olmeno

    Жыл бұрын

    In the books Yennefer Valls her a redhaid bitch after she betrays her and Gieralt for the lodge.

  • @M..n..M

    @M..n..M

    Жыл бұрын

    @@whysoserious4464 I didn't say the opposite😅

  • @ChunLo21

    @ChunLo21

    Жыл бұрын

    @@M..n..M In the book when Yen was “captured” by the Lodge, Triss did NOTHING to help and it was Fringilla who tipped off Yen on an escape route

  • @alexanderartz2288
    @alexanderartz2288 Жыл бұрын

    As a person, I personally prefer Triss. The calm demeanor and patience is a deal breaker. I’d be scared to be around Yennefer if I made her mad even once. For Geralt as a character, it makes more sense to choose Yennefer due to the established lore in the game and books. Not to mention they play off each other well and have the better dialogue.

  • @TheCrain

    @TheCrain

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. My first playthrough I never simped(lol) but my 2nd one I was loyal to Triss and enjoyed it. My recent playthrough was with Yennefer and I have to admit it really fit being with her through the story.

  • @canislunaticus

    @canislunaticus

    Жыл бұрын

    ngl that's kinda what's so attractive about Yen

  • @sandrols7

    @sandrols7

    Жыл бұрын

    For me, the big thing is that she puts herself on the line for her fellow magic users in Witcher 3, but still tries to help Geralt with Ciri without a doubt, when she has so much to lose... And the fact that Yen is so ruthless when it comes to tracking Ciri, including destroying an entire garden sacred to the people there, and tortures the soul of a boy in order to get what she wants. Not to mention she's constantly being secretive. And I know people will say "wouldn't you do the same with your daughter?" No. I would not. I would not destroy something so important to other people. I would not lie to the one who also wants to find my daughter out of love or withhold things from him. I would not torture someone like that. As much as it would break my heart, I would not want to impose that suffering upon others... not to mention what my daughter must feel that I am destroying things for her. I for one would feel horrified if I learned all the things Yen did for me, and I'd be honoured, if not telling her it wasn't necessary, for what Triss did, trying to help me.

  • @TheCrain

    @TheCrain

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sandrols7 She(Triss) is the only one I like from the Lodge of Sorceresses. Keira a little bit but she really fits in with the rest of the Lodge and from what I gathered they where a bunch of ruthless, misandrist, clandestine, conniving, underhanded, b****s trying to influence everything and everybody. It's hard to feel sorry for them with what they were doing. Like wtf they expect?

  • @michelvanderlinden8363

    @michelvanderlinden8363

    Жыл бұрын

    Based on the books alone I'd go for Triss. Yennefer was just... such an incredibly manipulative, lying, cheating bitch in the first 2 books. And yes I know she becomes so much better than that later on, but holy hell her casually admitting to Geralt that she slept around with another person THE SAME DAY she was with Geralt just irked me. And then having the gall to get mad at Triss for sleeping with Geralt WHEN THEY WERENT EVEN TOGETHER was just the final nail in the coffin.

  • @ramigebriel3427
    @ramigebriel342710 ай бұрын

    Very good video essay, detailed analysis that is actually realistic from both sides. Thanks, keep it up

  • @ianmeadows6941
    @ianmeadows694110 ай бұрын

    In my first play through I paired Geralt up with Yennefer. I had no book knowledge prior only knowing that she and Geralt have history and they have a daughter. When we do meet her in game I could see her bold personality complimenting Geralt’s more reserved personality, plus their relationship seemed bit more mature. Triss being younger quite showed with her personality and came off as more of a fling.

  • @azureflametarot

    @azureflametarot

    9 ай бұрын

    Right, technically what’s interesting is Triss is also older when she’s converted to a mage, so she *looks* older than Yen, but Yen was converted to a Mage at a younger age than Triss was, and looks younger than Triss. While Geralt looks a lot older and grizzled. It can go over people’s heads that this was the book canon, that Triss has a more mature appearance. Her behavior isn’t supposed to come across as young and innocently flirty, it’s supposed to come across as outright bawdy and a bit lurid. We’re supposed to feel inclined not to pick her because Geralt doesn’t really want a woman who’s easily mentally manipulated- she no longer has childlike innocence the way Ciri does, and even Yen does to a point with her idealism, as Triss was already inclined towards striving towards power and material comfort long before she finished her mage training. To Polish people, her bawdy behavior is, to their cultural mentality, a giveaway that someone has darker roots, and might not be trustworthy, hence Triss betraying them for the Lodge (unlike, say, Irish people who value bawdiness as a funny charming quality). She’s the female literary foil to Dandelion / Jaskier. Whereas Yen and Geralt both have a furious side hidden beneath a serene demeanor, though it comes out in attitude at times. They can both be a bit bawdy too (a cultural cue to the fact that they’ve both seen and survived dark times), but nothing remotely close to what Triss and Dandelion are like- I’m honestly surprised that the author didn’t set those two together as a fighting nagging couple in the books, but a maneater and a womanizer getting together might have created a 2nd conjunction of the spheres or something I guess 😂

  • @azureflametarot

    @azureflametarot

    9 ай бұрын

    So in short: Yen looks younger than Triss (symbolic of Yen’s spiritual innocence and idealism, despite her sharp tongue and sharp wit, and probably also a clue to her being better at magic because the young appearance is an artifice of magic), but Yen is actually much much older than Triss (a hint to the fact she is wiser and more trustworthy and devoted).

  • @Mystra

    @Mystra

    9 ай бұрын

    They don't really have a daughter. She was already someone else daughter and they adopted her, plus Geralt spent alot of time away

  • @Mystra

    @Mystra

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@azureflametarot Triss don't look older than Yennefer at all lol. She looks younger.

  • @ianmeadows6941

    @ianmeadows6941

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Mystra not really, Jesus Christ! Adopting a child doesn’t make anyone less of a parent. Ciri’s mom died when she was a baby & her grandmother raised & died protecting her from Emhyr who was obsessed with having an incest child with her. He revoked his rights after that & Geralt & Yen gave her a better life then that.

  • @Nathan_Coley
    @Nathan_Coley Жыл бұрын

    Answer: Shani XD

  • @Danthonyt

    @Danthonyt

    Жыл бұрын

    Shani is boring.

  • @Nathan_Coley

    @Nathan_Coley

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Danthonyt If you say so but I disagree.

  • @andrewplck

    @andrewplck

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Danthonyt in comparison to aby sorceress, yes, she really is boring.

  • @areyouusingthatsquatrack8256

    @areyouusingthatsquatrack8256

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Danthonyt Nope

  • @bolg892

    @bolg892

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@andrewplck Oh you mean the bland sorceresses who constantly try to manipulate Geralt and political events for their own gain, not like we've ever seen those before! At least Shani treats Geralt like an actual person. :)

  • @dh510
    @dh510 Жыл бұрын

    I usually pick both, because of the funny scene in the inn in Novigrad and because I think Ciri is the most pleasant character to have around the estate in Beauclaire.

  • @blob2092

    @blob2092

    11 ай бұрын

    also, because Ciri is not the biologic daughter of Geralt it is still possible they may have intimate relationship such as vaginal or even anal

  • @popepreego4906

    @popepreego4906

    11 ай бұрын

    so if i choose either yen or triss, ciri wouldn't appear in beauclaire? sorry im new to the witcher

  • @dh510

    @dh510

    11 ай бұрын

    Correct! You need to pick both or neither and to not get the bad ending in the main campaign, otherwise Ciri dies/disappears, which would cause Dandelion to show up in Beauclaire.

  • @nielsvanheteren

    @nielsvanheteren

    9 ай бұрын

    I think Ciri is actually the worst personality in the game. She acts like a 14-year old going through puberty the hard way, I'd expect a 22-23 year old to behave a little more grown-up than "I can take care of myself!" or "I can decide for myself!" Avallach literally had to spell her unconscious in order to get her to the isle of mists because she was fully willing to run into the hands of the wild hunt to save one dude she knew for 2 hours, potentially dooming the entire world to forced servitude.

  • @mystimallow

    @mystimallow

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nielsvanheterenin the game she’s 16

  • @magna_3923
    @magna_392310 ай бұрын

    😂 man that redhead got me at all my play trough... I just love redheads 😭

  • @Emre-rf4uz

    @Emre-rf4uz

    2 ай бұрын

    relatable💀

  • @PhunkJoaquin

    @PhunkJoaquin

    2 ай бұрын

    Its the tits man 😅

  • @scubasteve3032

    @scubasteve3032

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, I was married to one…be very careful not to anger them!😂

  • @CrozLite
    @CrozLite4 ай бұрын

    Honestly when i first played the games i thought id pick yen, but i was shocked at how triss as a character made me change my mind. just goes to show how good both characters are in the games

  • @chrisharts5625

    @chrisharts5625

    4 ай бұрын

    You must didn't play w2?

  • @LunnarisLP

    @LunnarisLP

    Ай бұрын

    @@chrisharts5625 W1+W2 tbh made me chose Triss, so I'm not sure I understand where you are getting at.

  • @andr0id.eighteen
    @andr0id.eighteen Жыл бұрын

    One of my friends watched her roommate play Witcher 3 when it came out but she had missed the beginning. So she watched Triss's arc in Novigrad and then when Yennefer appeared in Skellige my friend was like, "Who's the side chick?" Makes me laugh every time I remember it.

  • @imyournme6632

    @imyournme6632

    3 ай бұрын

    lmfao that's fuckin hilarious

  • @Cyno196

    @Cyno196

    3 ай бұрын

    Fr 😂

  • @PG19871230

    @PG19871230

    Ай бұрын

    In the games, Yen is the side chick.

  • @danielfurmage4381
    @danielfurmage4381 Жыл бұрын

    The thing is for me Geralt definitely has his own personality. It's not moulded by yours so much like for example Sheppard in Mass Effect. For me, personally it's Triss all day, every day. For Geralt though it's obviously Yennifer, so that was what I picked in game.

  • @Barwasser

    @Barwasser

    10 ай бұрын

    well said!

  • @beckriv9854

    @beckriv9854

    8 ай бұрын

    The way I see it, Triss is very much the choice of people who like the idea of a woman doting on them, she relentlessly pursues Geralt and tries every occasion to steal him off Yen. Yen on the other hand seems to value herself a bit more and won't just throw herself at Geralt, like if you choose to end the relationship in the Djinn quest you can see it shatters her, but you know she won't be pulling any Triss tactics. I don't know how best to summarise it, it's sort of like Triss is spending the day in your boxers and ordering a burger and fries, whereas Yen is going to the gym and picking up one from the drive thru, they both taste good, but one of them you feel like you actually accomplished something because you earned it first.

  • @Barwasser

    @Barwasser

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@beckriv9854 that is a fun summary :D Although in W3 Triss no longer throws herself at Geralt except during the Party. If you look at the series as a whole, you are correct though.

  • @battlerushiromiya6457

    @battlerushiromiya6457

    8 ай бұрын

    @@beckriv9854 Not close to that for me. I choose Triss because I like her goals, she is a woman who seeks to improve herself, also in a relationship with her there is dialogue and peace, you can see that Geralt and Triss are a healthy relationship. Another thing is that Triss does love Geralt and that is seen in the games, so her love story with Geralt is true, it is not just "sex" as some haters say.

  • @PEACEMAKERS_OFFICIAL

    @PEACEMAKERS_OFFICIAL

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@battlerushiromiya6457 true, I agree👍🏿

  • @Paul83121
    @Paul831216 ай бұрын

    Great video, once again. I absolutely agree with everything you said here. One thing I would like to add: I feel like Triss's redemption in the third game is only in small part an argument for potentially choosing her. It is far more about redeeming her as a character so she doesn't leave the game as the manipulative person she had been set up to be in the previous games. Ending up with Yennefer is clearly the canon ending for me. I feel like CDPR did intend that as well, but realised that leaving Triss as we had concluded her to be after the second game would be a bit rough. They added her saving the mages from Novigrad and admitting having taken advantage of Geralt so we would see her in a bit of a better light. The player can end up with Yennefer, without the uneasy feeling Triss should have been held accountable in some way. Not to say she wasn't wrong in what she did, but it's probably the best way of finishing her arc, short of being murdered by Yennefer.

  • @Gamer_with_knowledge
    @Gamer_with_knowledge6 ай бұрын

    This video was just a wow 😄 Did not feel these 27 minutes. very thorough and clear explanation man 😄❤

  • @sasper9953
    @sasper9953 Жыл бұрын

    This is the first time I've seen a video that adequately covers the histories of both Triss and Yen, very well done.

  • @TheFathomlessUnknown
    @TheFathomlessUnknown Жыл бұрын

    The team Shani at the end had me dead lol love your vids man! I personally went with Yennefer my first playthrough and Geralt himself explains it perfectly when speaking with Cerys about why he's attracted to Yen even though their relationship has always been rocky. Cerys: "What is it about her? What is it that draws you?" Geralt: "Dunno...Maybe, uh, it's cause I've never chosen comfort and ease, the calm and the quiet..."

  • @DKarkarov

    @DKarkarov

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol the funny thing about it all is from a book perspective Geralt has a more romantic relationship with Shani than he does Triss.

  • @marcinpietrzak9358

    @marcinpietrzak9358

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DKarkarov on my first playthrough of Witcher 1, I chose Shani. Sadly, it doesn't matter in Witcher 2. :(

  • @bluespaceman7937

    @bluespaceman7937

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcinpietrzak9358 Indeed, that was disappointing at the time.

  • @petrusjnaude7279

    @petrusjnaude7279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcinpietrzak9358 She doesn't even get mentioned at all unless you have the special edition (extended edtion whatever it's called) that adds a codex entry that you have to go looking for.

  • @itsgonnabeokay9341

    @itsgonnabeokay9341

    11 ай бұрын

    team Shani will never work for me because she is going to age and die way before Geralt does...

  • @micheleosullivan4430
    @micheleosullivan443010 ай бұрын

    I have two play-throughs. I chose Triss in one and Yenn in the other. Both have merit, but Yenn does make more sense due to Geralt and Yenn's long past. However, things changed between Triss in the games as their story continues post books. I'm glad I experienced both. Thank you for another great video and all the work you put into them.

  • @matthewsanderson3703
    @matthewsanderson37033 ай бұрын

    Funnily enough my first playthrough I tried to make a harem and ended up chained to a bed in my underwear

  • @LightyDust
    @LightyDust Жыл бұрын

    Elihal is obviously the best.

  • @wabliohitika4521

    @wabliohitika4521

    Жыл бұрын

    Your main character was obviously Gayralt of Rivia

  • @n8bayonet

    @n8bayonet

    Жыл бұрын

    Ig I accidentally stumbled upon the femboy part of the comment section woops better leave.

  • @desolation1821

    @desolation1821

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro...

  • @LadyAhro

    @LadyAhro

    Жыл бұрын

    The Regis fans have a bone to pick with you there, but we’ll admit you’re a person of good taste.

  • @giovanniamore7532

    @giovanniamore7532

    Жыл бұрын

    i heard theres balenciaga in novigrad, offering the most stýlish fashion

  • @danpolo8829
    @danpolo882911 ай бұрын

    I picked Triss the first time, but I plan to redo the story and choose Yen the next time. I avoided romancing both of them to see the Triss ending, but breaking Yen’s heart during “The Last Wish” was hard! It really seems to me that Yen is the “destined” choice now after playing.

  • @humanityssassiestsoldier

    @humanityssassiestsoldier

    10 ай бұрын

    They love each other but they're so shit at relationships

  • @nmosely1988

    @nmosely1988

    9 ай бұрын

    I picked both and got tied to the bed with both walking away😢

  • @xxXXRAPXXxx

    @xxXXRAPXXxx

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nmosely1988 Pity there is no Ciri option. Yes im THAT GUY.

  • @nmosely1988

    @nmosely1988

    9 ай бұрын

    @@xxXXRAPXXxx Ciri probably would refuse as she like a daughter, but somebody did make a mod to make her an option, 😁

  • @YukongSan

    @YukongSan

    9 ай бұрын

    @@nmosely1988 LMAO

  • @sneaksquid
    @sneaksquid10 ай бұрын

    DAMNIT! I for some reason thought your spoiler warning only applied to the witcher 3 and now the end of the books is spoiled for me 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I guess now i gotta finish reading them.

  • @ek3561
    @ek356111 ай бұрын

    Yennefer has another advantage when playing Blood and Wine. Triss is an advisor in Kovir (north), and Geralt is in Beauclair (south). Triss can't just leave, and she even suggests Geralt can come with her, and he doesn't have to work since she makes enough to support both of them. This means, Geralt has to leave Corvo Bianco (Geralt hates Portals, and you can't portal this far without halfway points and/or serious danger) Yenn, on the other hand, does NOT want to continue living the sorceress advisor life any further and wants to read and relax. When Geralt asks her to stay, she jokes that her wardrobe (black and a bit of white) is not suited to the hot Toussaint weather and she further jokes about getting a dress in egg-shell white and pea-green. Later we can find a dress in said colours in the study in the house. So. If we want Geralt to live in Corvo Bianco, we need to choose Yenn over Triss. Also. Yenn >> Triss

  • @rulonelyyy8925

    @rulonelyyy8925

    10 ай бұрын

    So yen stayed with Gerald until d end?

  • @ek3561

    @ek3561

    10 ай бұрын

    @@rulonelyyy8925 With Yen you have at least the opportunity to stay in your vineyard, Triss has to go back to Kovor and Geralt can join (leave the vineyard) or leave Triss.... I like Corvo Bianco. I want him to stay, so for that alone I chose Yen (and because I read the books)

  • @cuzimaluzer777

    @cuzimaluzer777

    7 күн бұрын

    I only ever wanted Triss

  • @RickeGnool
    @RickeGnool Жыл бұрын

    I have a very simple view on this: Who do I think is better for Geralt: Yen Who I personally like the most: Triss

  • @valtinryu8147

    @valtinryu8147

    Жыл бұрын

    This is how I have to frame the whole "role-playing" aspect of this rpg. Like yes, I get to make the choices for Geralt, but I enjoy more trying to figure out what choices Geralt would actually make and go off of that.

  • @bolg892

    @bolg892

    Жыл бұрын

    Who is actually the ultimate superior choice: Shani

  • @RickeGnool

    @RickeGnool

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bolg892 Well yeah but we can't end up with her.

  • @cuzimaluzer777

    @cuzimaluzer777

    7 күн бұрын

    This.

  • @thebl00dybaron
    @thebl00dybaron Жыл бұрын

    I chose Triss every time, even after having read all the books. It wasn't until I forced myself to choose Yennefer that I finally realized that all of the offputting/rude things she does are all for Ciri.

  • @asuraspath2262

    @asuraspath2262

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm just into red heads. Like Yen is great and all, but she can be abusive at times. Game Yen/Triss seem different to the books tho.

  • @arsenii_yavorskyi

    @arsenii_yavorskyi

    Жыл бұрын

    umm… this isn't true at all.

  • @mohammadsaleem5990

    @mohammadsaleem5990

    Жыл бұрын

    I pretty sure ciri wouldn't approve of the way she treated the boy she resurrected with necromancy (forgot his name)

  • @user-fp3in2kf3b

    @user-fp3in2kf3b

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mohammadsaleem5990 Yen was run out the time (story wise), so she is ready to be ruthless . . Yen was ready to protect Geralt and Ciri against the Lodge. Lodge want to kill Geralt and marry Ciri on somee local prince. Triss was Philipa puppy and was agree with this plan. Only Yenifer stand against them - basicly she was ready to fight against all of them at once. . On the contrast, when Geralt loose his memory - Triss immediately use this at her advantage (act like a pig toward Yen and stay silent about Ciri) and use Geralt in Lodge political games threw whole Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 (but in Witcher 2 we see that Big girls in Lodge like Philipa and Sheala never saw Triss as their equal. More like petty looser that try to stay close with popular guys in the school). . Easy win for Yenifer here (because her love for Geralt and Ciri is real, then for Triss it some kind of adventure or opportunity to reach her own goals)

  • @NikKliaf

    @NikKliaf

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@user-fp3in2kf3b This this this. People don't understand that what Yen does she does it not only for her own gain, but out of love for those closest to her too.

  • @sasharudyy3587
    @sasharudyy35877 ай бұрын

    One thing about Witcher 1 and 2 Triss and the fact that she never mentioned Yen so that Geralt didn't remember her, is that no one in general mentioned Yen or Ciri to Geralt, not even Dandelion or Zoltan, so it's not something you can really fault Triss for, that's just how CDPR wrote the first 2 games

  • @markramsey2454

    @markramsey2454

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah but difference is I like dandelion and zoltan so i don't blame them :D

  • @OdenDChad

    @OdenDChad

    5 ай бұрын

    I mean yes you can fault the character since it is written that way. If she was writtent to mention Yen and Ciri she would be apploud.

  • @FriendwithNoName7

    @FriendwithNoName7

    3 ай бұрын

    Triss mentions Yennefer in Witcher 2 , pleaye stop lieng with the misinformation. When Geralt and Triss travel to Flotsam Triss tells Geralt all about Yennefer and her relationship.

  • @FriendwithNoName7

    @FriendwithNoName7

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@markramsey2454It's wrong, Triss mentions Yennefer in witcher 2.

  • @FriendwithNoName7

    @FriendwithNoName7

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@OdenDChadTriss mentions Yennefer and her relationship with Geralt to Geralt in witcher 2 when traveling to Flotsam. How do you guys not know that, did you even play Witcher 2?

  • @Schopenhauer667
    @Schopenhauer6674 ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @anderblaine
    @anderblaine Жыл бұрын

    I delayed watching this video because I was worried it would villainize yennefer like so many often do - but I really appreciated this thoughtful and nuanced take. Thank you!

  • @Kronos0999

    @Kronos0999

    8 ай бұрын

    She clearly is a villain literally being unable to choose Geralt as her hero. Slept with him, then with another. Disgusting.

  • @k-dot1533

    @k-dot1533

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Kronos0999 Shes disgusting but Geralt isnt? Man has slept with half the women he ever met lol, talk about double standards. As for me i dont care about any of that, im team Yen all the way, they were meant for one another. Oh and btw, your precious Triss has also "cheated" on Geralt at least once in the books iirc so yeah :)

  • @progmrz5512

    @progmrz5512

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@k-dot1533 Double standard as it's finest lol They really hate Yennefer cheating on Geralt yet people are okay with Geralt cheating with other women.

  • @ladyamyranightcrow9872

    @ladyamyranightcrow9872

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Kronos0999 People always talk about what Yennefer did with Istredd but never NEVER put Geralts nasty past on the table. Yennefer was trying to have a serious relationship with him at the beggining, she took Geralt to live with her at her principal residence in Vengerberg. One morning she just wake up and all what the witcher let her was a note and some flowers, Geralt abandoned her with no previous word ; then he slept with Yen's coworker and friend Coral, her assistan and Yennefer's best friend Triss. Can you blame the girl for having her reservations about a future with Geralt?, Istredd was propousing her estability and confidence. My point?, bouth are a piece of shit on relationships, that's why they belong together, and I LOVE THEM, really, but BOTH sucks on this.

  • @aRecount

    @aRecount

    4 ай бұрын

    @@k-dot1533men and women aren’t the same🤡

  • @Outdoor-Dom
    @Outdoor-Dom2 ай бұрын

    Thats some damn good video! I went into The Witcher 3 without knowing anything and just saw a complicated Yen and a a relaxing Triss (+ Red head). Bit you outlined the details pretty good. Still would choose Triss!

  • @PSunnyFx
    @PSunnyFx3 ай бұрын

    Thank you I just started playing this will help

  • @alexulrich2393
    @alexulrich2393 Жыл бұрын

    Similar to you, on my first playthrough of Witcher 3 I went in pretty much completely blind (I had watched the Netflix series, but that was it). So doing the natural thing, I fell for Triss in Novigrad. Then many hours later I got to Skellige and fell for Yen without realizing I couldn't have them both...needless to say, I was glad that Dandelion came to my rescue after a "fun filled night" with the two of them 😂 But I did really like getting Ciri the Witcheress to come to Corvo Bianco in the postgame!

  • @wim-1399
    @wim-1399 Жыл бұрын

    I like how honest you were with "My monkeybrain saw a readhead and that was all she wrote", because thats exactly what my brain did haha, follow the redhead.

  • @izanlemosroma4917
    @izanlemosroma49173 ай бұрын

    Very nice video, and great analysis! For me, taking the games as canon, but also counting the books, the most 'Geralt partner' it's Yenn no doubt, but I like a lot how they redeem Triss' character in the third game, as I really don't like how is she portrait in the first two (specially in The Witcher 1). If Triss character jumped from The Lady of the Lake to The Witcher 3 she would be one of my top favourite characters from the saga.

  • @tones7mca
    @tones7mca9 ай бұрын

    An excellent video, thank you. I find myself every bit as conflicted as I was before watching! I am new to Witcher, having watched the ever declining (that last series was dreadful, no wonder Cavil left) Witcher on Netflix, I decided to get Witcher 3. I am pretty close to a complete noob regarding Witcher lore. Part of me wishes my feelings were not unintentionally being influenced by having watched the Netflix series. Coming at it from the game world alone, I feel Tris is kinder, calmer and a better match for Geralt. Yen just seemed pretty cold and at times horrible to Geralt. However,I know she is effectively Ciri's mother and I know we (Geralt) have a deep history with yen, there is an undeniable pull towards reuniting us all as a happy family. Now armed with so much more book and game lore via this and other videos, I am still conflicted. I think its fair to say my heart actually says Tris, while my head says Yen...

  • @tones7mca

    @tones7mca

    9 ай бұрын

    Just to add, as far as I can tell (Ive not completed the game yet), the Tris story line is much shorter than the Yen, which is annoying...

  • @chriswest1199

    @chriswest1199

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s most likely to do with Triss being in the last 2 games so she is much more time to develop with the audience. Yen was introduced to us in TW3 so they had to do a lot of the introduction type stuff that was done in the first game

  • @petrusjnaude7279
    @petrusjnaude7279 Жыл бұрын

    I had only played the first two games (romanced Shani in the first, and Triss in the second, mostly since Shani wasn't an option anymore), so I was not completely blind to Triss's character in the third game. I had however not read the books. I knew from playing the second game that Geralt and Yen had history, but by the time you are around her for any length of time in Skellige, I had already made my decision to romance Triss. and her actions in Skellige and her personality did not help matters for me. Learning about all this though was interesting though.

  • @DiegoRYT

    @DiegoRYT

    11 ай бұрын

    Same, although i did not complete Witcher 1 i played 2 a lot...Yen had very little to stand for in the choice for my context...

  • @Supirior18

    @Supirior18

    10 ай бұрын

    This. Without the books, and only the games as reference there was pretty much no good reason to abandon Triss for Yen. Triss was with you from Witcher 1. Yen was a nobody for you as a player when she was introduced. I also remember her being downright rude to Geralt. I am sure everything made more sense for those that read the books. So you could say CDPR did a bad job at introducing Yen properly to the player.

  • @DiegoRYT

    @DiegoRYT

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Supirior18 Agree, or great work if they didn't want Yen to have a bigger impact for casuals...

  • @beckriv9854

    @beckriv9854

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Supirior18 I didn't play the first two games but read all the books, was it made clear before W3 that Triss manipulated Geralt by taking advantage of his memory loss to steal him from her best friend when she knew they were mad about eachother? Just that could be argued as being a massive red flag for Triss.

  • @Supirior18

    @Supirior18

    8 ай бұрын

    @@beckriv9854 i honestly can't remember. It's been a few years since i played them. In my memory, i think that Yennefer wasn't even mentioned once in the first 2 Games, since Geralt regained his full memory in Witcher 3? Oh boy i could be totally wrong about this. But i think, he didn't remember Yennefer at all and Triss never mentioned her either in the games. So you as a player had no idea of a past relationship with Yen.

  • @meowmeowmcpurrington2480
    @meowmeowmcpurrington2480 Жыл бұрын

    I'm still the same as before, No Yen or Triss, only GWENT!

  • @Rankbaajin
    @Rankbaajin10 ай бұрын

    Subbed just because of your outro team Shanni all day long

  • @malcolmferguson4869
    @malcolmferguson48698 ай бұрын

    For me, it depends on whether I'm going for a "pure enjoyment" playstyle (in which case, I'll go with Triss, since I like her more), or a "lore-accurate" playstyle (in which case, I'll go with Yennefer, because that's what Geralt would do).

  • @00Mike55
    @00Mike55 Жыл бұрын

    "And if I'm being honest, I think my monkey brain saw a red head and that's all she wrote." I feel you brother lol I only played the trilogy in order, thankfully, but didn't read any of the books, and I still had mixed feelings about Triss in the first and second game, the third one they sort of made her more likeable and was my choice in the end, perhaps if they hadn't written Yen to heavily antagonize Geralt for his memory loss and actually acknowledge what Letho said at the end of Witcher 2, maybe I would've picked her instead. Also coming from the first two games, hyping Yen and Cir so much, their first meeting felt abrupt and out of place to me, literally when I saw her show up in White Orchard I was like: Really? This is how we're doing it huh? Frankly if we base ourselves just by the games themselves the more reasonable option was Shani, also red head, absolute win lmao. But now hearing the whole picture with the books included makes absolute sense that Yen and Geralt end up together, just wish they could've ease up with the out of place at times antagonizing attitude of hers.

  • @yareyaredaz3522
    @yareyaredaz352210 ай бұрын

    Ive played the game through and through like 10-15 times. Every year i have to play it. And i always pick Yen. Shes the rough but honnest (to you) woman that geralt needs. Too bad their life and relationship has been rough

  • @Lanthirrhos
    @Lanthirrhos10 ай бұрын

    I jumped into this series at Witcher 2, and THAT game was enough to show me that Triss wasn't a great person. Before Witcher 3 came out I had caught up on all of the books which mostly reinforced the fact that Triss wasn't a real option. I can totally see how a new person to the series in Witcher 3 could get locked into Triss before they ever knew what was happening (and no feel too untoward about it). But when I got to the Triss bits, I helped her out but shut down every advance with alacrity. Noped out of that trap immediately. A few reasonable decisions will never outweigh her actions prior to Witcher 3. That's Geralt's daughter she was attempting to mess with, and it was Geralt's life she DID mess with to make it happen. Neither was going to be given a choice or even an explanation. Geralt wasn't even going to be told he had someone to love and care for. Triss only cares because she got caught. Yen on the other hand, once you know Yen, you know what you are getting. She isn't the most stable, but by the end of the books you know that her goals and Geralt's align perfectly (Read: Ciri). And that's the person you want at your side looking after Ciri. And she does actually care about Geralt, even though she has ass relationship skills. Throwing away all plot considerations, I'm not mad at Team Shani. She is hands down, the best woman lol She just loses by virtue of not being a consistent presence in the series... and realistically, Geralt isn't making any choice other than Yen.

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Yen was the one to die trying to ressurect Geralt in the books. So who are you going to choose? A manipulative witch from the first two games or the chick who literally sacrificed her life for Geralt´s? :) Book Geralt would only and ever choose Yen, of course. The player? It´s up to us. :) And that´s great - even that decade long Team Triss or Team Yen feud. :)

  • @staypositive5718

    @staypositive5718

    6 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed you’re summery of it all pal was like an episode of my favourite show, I agreed wit everything you said.

  • @onepoundofcheese8356

    @onepoundofcheese8356

    5 ай бұрын

    Yennefer is an AWFUL person

  • @YouTubeCensors

    @YouTubeCensors

    5 ай бұрын

    All great Points But Yen is the type to make your life Hell, so Triss and she seemed truly remorseful in 3. Maybe Geralt can put up with it but I sure as hell wouldn't.

  • @geraltofnivea1434
    @geraltofnivea1434 Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't mind more story formatted video's. I can't be bothered reading all the books and playing the older Witcher games. You did a great job combining books and games, I mean based on my limited knowledge.

  • @bakters

    @bakters

    Жыл бұрын

    The books hold up surprisingly well for me. Back in my teen years I thought that the Witcher saga, while obviously very good, was still nowhere near as good as Tolkien, but I can't read Tolkien anymore. It all is just too naive for the old me. Then I was an early fan of GRR and his Songs of Ice and Fire saga. I though that GRRs writing was a wholly new quality in this genre, and it is true, but I never was able to even re read those books *once* . It's just too dark for me. So many characters, but if you happen to take a liking to someone, it's likely they will die, either literally or figuratively, by turning themselves into monsters. Sapkowski strikes a happy medium for me. He's gritty enough to be believable, while he's also a master at creating likable *and believable* characters. It's not all roses obviously, there are some plot contrivances, but not too many. His writing is actually excellent, most of the time at least. He's a master wordsmith. Unfortunately, at least early translations were nowhere near his level and I'm not sure if this issue was ever fixed. (I think they must have done something, because nowadays hardly anyone mentions this problem, but I'd still be surprised if even the improved version could match the original.) Start at the beginning. It's just a bunch of self-contained short stories which all are a darker yet funnier versions of some popular fables.

  • @bolg892

    @bolg892

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@christopherwray4788 There are audiobooks bud and they do an equally good job of telling the story the same way a book would.

  • @bolg892

    @bolg892

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@christopherwray4788 Also the fact that your first reaction was to insult the guy and make baseless assumptions about him says a lot about you lmao.

  • @patriknagy5601

    @patriknagy5601

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bakters What is the reason you can't read Tolkien anymore?

  • @bakters

    @bakters

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patriknagy5601 In short I already wrote that: "it's all too naive for the old me". Slightly longer: I realized that I can't accept his philosophy, which I consider to be internally inconsistent. The bad guys are portrayed as mere pawns willed into action by a powerful master mind. Their primary mode of existence is blind obedience. The good guys are portrayed as only slightly more independent pawns, who are willed into action by a powerful master mind. Their primary mode of existence is *literally* blind obedience, since Eru is a mystery to them. There is no redemption. A slippery slope toward evil is a one way street. Forgiveness exists, but only highborns can apply. So forth. Obviously, there is nothing of the sort in Sapkowski. In his universe good actors can act petty, jealously, cowardly, naively, annoyingly, yet they are still very likable people. Bad actors usually simply act in their own best interest. Even if blind obedience is expected of them, it's a part of a mutually understood contract, which can be revoked. And obviously, there is redemption.

  • @stormiewutzke4190
    @stormiewutzke4190 Жыл бұрын

    I'm in my 40s and Yen is to much like a lot of very unpleasant memories. I'm totally team Kiera. I really don't care what she does on her own time and she is a heck of a lot of fun when she is there.

  • @ladansemakabre

    @ladansemakabre

    Жыл бұрын

    based. i would choose Keira any day, if i could

  • @soleo2783

    @soleo2783

    11 ай бұрын

    "Yen is to much like a lot of very unpleasant memories" Hits hard as fuck

  • @SuitedCynic
    @SuitedCynic9 ай бұрын

    I never read the books but actually started with the first game by chance when it released, so I was basically up to date as to how Triss took advantage of Geralt's memory loss - still chose her for the first playthrough because it always seemed like a much healthier relationship to me =D 2nd playthrough was with Yen though, especially because telling her in the Last Wish that you don't feel anything for her made her facade crumble and I was like "oh shit, she might actually be a good person too" XD

  • @ganjinfly

    @ganjinfly

    8 ай бұрын

    Actually, Yennefer gave her life for Geralt trying to cure him. There's definitely something good about her 😄 Yes, and endured torture for the sake of Ciri.

  • @SuitedCynic

    @SuitedCynic

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ganjinfly Absolutely! You just don't really get that picture from playing the games since this happens before them. Plus, if you don't pursue her story that much in the Wild Hunt, it's fairly easy to miss that part. That's why my 2nd play through was Team Yennefer =D

  • @FriendwithNoName7

    @FriendwithNoName7

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ganjinflyTriss also let herself be tortured for Ciri, she loves Geralt.

  • @TrissTess

    @TrissTess

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@FriendwithNoName7No, she played that. She was never in danger in the "torture chamber" and the "little sis" says it all for me..😒

  • @Deathvalley1980
    @Deathvalley19805 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @adk7165
    @adk7165 Жыл бұрын

    I am by no means some hardcore team Triss (I am actually kind of on the fence, and probably prefer Shanni tbh) but Yen always seemed like such a toxic relationship to me. Like, that is the best way to describe it. Like that couple that yeah, they have a long history together, but they fight constantly and break up and hate each other yet they will always return together because they have chemistry and nice banter? That reminds me of Geralt and Yen.

  • @ElusivePandaMan

    @ElusivePandaMan

    Жыл бұрын

    There's another aspect to their relationship that started because of a genie's wish. They are bound by magic, so no matter the toxicity and hate, they end up getting back together even after their many break-ups. Many of their acquaintances and friends will often note how disfunctional their relationship is. They are like oil and water in many respects.

  • @sullifishing4035

    @sullifishing4035

    11 ай бұрын

    I've played the game choosing Triss once and Yen the next. In my experience I felt that Triss loves Geralt the most. Just from the cut scenes they're in and how Triss treats Geralt I felt she genuinely cares a lot for him. Yenn degrades him. Both love Ciri.

  • @tarektechmarine8209

    @tarektechmarine8209

    10 ай бұрын

    it'll never be a family or love that comes from a relationship like that, so it's very off putting.

  • @tarektechmarine8209

    @tarektechmarine8209

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ElusivePandaMan they'll ALWAYS be miserable and that's why it's so bad.

  • @drdramatik
    @drdramatik Жыл бұрын

    Actually wonderful video! Very much enjoyed you revealing the backstories of these two and really putting The Witcher 3 story into perspective. Would definitely love more videos like this. Me personally, my first playthrough, I got the quest Three to Tango. W3 was probably the first game I played that had real choices and consequences, so I didn't think too much of it when I chose Triss for example and I never saw her after that until Kaer Morhen. I never realized that I was actually committing to one or the other, which looking back was definitely my mistake, but at least I got Ciri to visit me in Corvo Bianco. I thought that was nice.

  • @White_Isida
    @White_Isida10 ай бұрын

    honey for my ears. so nice to hear your position! I started the game. Having reached the moment of torture, Triss..paused the game! I decided to read all the books about the Witcher. I was so touched by the love story of Geralt and Yen, the realism of the characters and the depth that seeing the changes that the developers brought to the game made me burn! And listening to you, I feel satisfaction for my thoughts. Everything is just like that. So, about the torture of Triss. I remember I was shocked by one comment that claimed that Triss endured such torment that Ian would not go through because of selfishness. But the book clearly describes the months when Yen was tortured so that she would open her mind and thereby squeeze out the location of Ciri. I remember a terrible description that her hands looked like a bloody mess, that there were attempts at rape. For months! and after that in the game we are shown the selfless Triss. Well, it's very much taken from the book, of course. Therefore, knowing the source, that story of torture, revealing the Strength and endurance of Yennefer, is already perceived differently when Triss is put in the same scenery.

  • @nightgazer5780
    @nightgazer578010 ай бұрын

    I played the Witcher 3 blind without having seen any of the media, and for me it actually made this choice a real simple one. I like both Triss and Yen, theyre both great in different ways, but the game makes one thing throughout its time and interactions that it has a choice you can make for the sake of allowing a finish to, unbenownst to me, was a theme throughout the games, and a choice that it deems correct. And that would be Yennefer. That, combined with the fact that it can actually be fairly confusing on how exactly to get Triss to stick around, led me to picking Yennefer. And while I personally would have picked Triss without any context, the game makes the choice for you in some sense.

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    Triss is in the first two games - Yen isn´t. So that complicates the things even further (for the human player). But for the book Geralt, the choice is obvious - Yen and only Yen. :)

  • @heelsurfer2668
    @heelsurfer2668 Жыл бұрын

    Shani. I wish Shani had an ending.

  • @Nathan_Coley

    @Nathan_Coley

    Жыл бұрын

    This is the way.

  • @andrewplck

    @andrewplck

    Жыл бұрын

    In comparison to Triss or Yen, Shani is... boring, really.

  • @heelsurfer2668

    @heelsurfer2668

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewplck In terms of abilities and impact on the story and books yes. But she's just adorable.

  • @abereid4315

    @abereid4315

    Жыл бұрын

    @@heelsurfer2668 She is. Was so happy to see her again. HOS was a fantastic expansion.

  • @bolg892

    @bolg892

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@andrewplck Not really. But I'd rather take boring any day over stupid #1 and stupid #2.

  • @willreaver1425
    @willreaver1425 Жыл бұрын

    On my first playthrough i ended up with roach and wondering where shani had run off to. On the bright side, Ciri stopped by when she was in between witcher contracts. And I never realized that there was a "bad ending".

  • @MsRuell

    @MsRuell

    9 ай бұрын

    Bad ending is when Dandelion shows up

  • @reanaa
    @reanaa10 ай бұрын

    I think it comes down to one simple thing. If you read the books you go with Yen. If you've only played the game, you go with Triss.

  • @amberxv4777

    @amberxv4777

    10 ай бұрын

    I only played the games and went with Yen. After learning the truth from Letho whom I didn't kill, I found out that Yen is his lover and not Triss, and decided to reunite Geralt with her. But Geralt did that for me himself. Dumbed Triss and went to look for his lover. So why would anyone go with Triss against what Geralt obviously wants?

  • @desperado3236

    @desperado3236

    10 ай бұрын

    Its a personal preference thing. Choose what feels right to you. I played the games before reading the books so it naturally funnels you towards triss. I wasnt really taking geralts views but rather, mine. She just seemed alot more tolerable. In W3 at least. Wasnt a fan of her in book or the first 2 games. So yeah, at first i couldnt stand yen, she was just a bitch but after reading the books, ive learned to appreciate her character more. So for me, yen beats book triss but w3 triss beats yen. Thats the thing about games with preferences like w3. You can play however you want and its all valid. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

  • @alexduchon2397

    @alexduchon2397

    9 ай бұрын

    i read the whole saga like times but still go with triss every time. I simply feel like that their relationship on its own(at this point) is healthier then anything any romantic interest of yennefers can ever have with her. PS: sorry for the bad english

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    @@desperado3236 - love finds a way, lol.

  • @Into_The_Sin

    @Into_The_Sin

    7 ай бұрын

    Only played the games, still went with Yen. Triss' pathetic and whiny character annoyed me from the start, and when I reached the part where she was hiding Yen's and Ciri's existence in order to keep Geralt to herself, I completely wrote her off. She's one of the most disliked characters for me, along with Radovid

  • @Charlistic_Saint
    @Charlistic_Saint8 ай бұрын

    I haven't played the two first games, but i always went with Yennefer in the third. Knowing they were the parentfigures to Ciri and from how i understood had a long history together an seemed like they loved each other in their own way

  • @igorpolotai
    @igorpolotai Жыл бұрын

    I'm a Trollololo fan myself. Best girl

  • @pintail102
    @pintail102 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video and how you were able to show both sides of the argument in a way that was fair to both. BTW how close is what Geralt would do for game 3 being done?

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    There´s really no argument. We choose as players, though the book Geralt would only ever choose Yen. Is it shitty for Triss? Yes. Did Triss take an advantage of Geralt´s amnesia in the first two games? Hell yes. Is Yen a good person? Not really, by any means. But love doesn´t measure in these metrics. You love - you love all the faults and weaknesses too. There´s really no good choice, there´s only to follow your heart (as a player, as a human). Geralt would choose Yen - the player can choose the one, who he or she prefers. Reading books helps. Or not, lol. :) No one is saint, not everything is straithforward. That´s life, comrade. :)

  • @silvervixen007
    @silvervixen0078 ай бұрын

    Interesting that they made Triss such an important character in the games. For TW3 honestly it would have been interesting to develop other characters more as love interests but oh well

  • @TaxFraudTutorials
    @TaxFraudTutorials10 ай бұрын

    I'm still reading the books and I understand Yen being the most appropriate romance but, Shani was the one I went with in the first game, even if she's just a minor character in the books, after seeing Vesemir and Illyana in the Netflix anime, I absolutely adored the tragedy of the impossible romance between the Witcher and the Mortal human. I think in my next playthrough of all 3 games I'll forego romancing either Triss or Yen in favour of Shani, even if it means getting the loner ending slide or whatever

  • @yar3333
    @yar3333 Жыл бұрын

    I was very sceptical about this video, because what more could be said on this topic? But it captivated me and I've thought about so many new things I never considered! Thank you for being objective in this sense :) And about the ending dialogue: I love Shani's landlady's phrase "Look at you, grey haired, still chasing girls!"

  • @TheKrou
    @TheKrou Жыл бұрын

    Triss coming onto Geralt the moment she realized he didn't remember Yennefer was PEAK Triss behavior. It immediately put the book-readers in Geralt's shoes rejecting her, and flew over everyone else's heads lol.

  • @timhawley69

    @timhawley69

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah lying for months seems pretty fucked 😂

  • @humanityssassiestsoldier

    @humanityssassiestsoldier

    10 ай бұрын

    Exactly- you're so fucking right and people just kinda ignore it?

  • @lawnknome
    @lawnknome10 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @NeonKnight

    @NeonKnight

    10 ай бұрын

    um... what in the hell man??? thank you!

  • @lawnknome

    @lawnknome

    10 ай бұрын

    Bro im sorry my comment came from the pocket. Good video though

  • @richkestrel7416
    @richkestrel74168 ай бұрын

    Haven't read the books, haven't played any of the earlier Witcher games, and came into Witcher III blind. I've played through the game multiple times, and ended up with Yen, Triss, and... Roach... on different play throughs. I enjoyed this deep dive into the relationships as it sorta "filled out" the story for me. Thanks! 👍

  • @colossus_jr9460
    @colossus_jr9460 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video. As someone who read the books and played all the games after I was not surprised in the least after the first hour scene tbh. And the second game cemented my team yen status

  • @John.McMillan
    @John.McMillan10 ай бұрын

    I always pick both so Geralt gets neither. He deserves better than either and if they both leave then he has a good chance to actually get better.

  • @jesse5253

    @jesse5253

    3 ай бұрын

    Yennefers only crime against geralt was being patient with him. Even in the books the only time she ever took advantage of him was before she even knew him lol. She's obsessed with power and she's manipulative but unlike triss, yennefer sees ciri as family. Where as triss was willing to brain wash him to forget about everything important in his life souly so she could get some witcher dick.

  • @waalex11
    @waalex119 ай бұрын

    This was pretty enjoyable.

  • @saprelik
    @saprelik Жыл бұрын

    that is a great video! I read books and played all three witcher games but I wouldn't be able to put everything I know about Yen and Triss together so nicely.

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    The ideal choice is to choose BOTH. Like in the real life, that´s not possible. In the words of Netflix´s Witcher - "fuck!". :)

  • @saprelik

    @saprelik

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Film_Sushi Of course it's possible. It's only your choice and you can choose any path you want. The romance won't last long and will result the trio quest but you can still have your fun with both Yen and Triss.

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    @@saprelik don´t want to have just fun, lol.

  • @saprelik

    @saprelik

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Film_Sushi I have a bad news for you than, it's only a computer game and so has its limits ;)

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    @@saprelik damn, that´s really bad news. :)

  • @MGMStag1992
    @MGMStag1992 Жыл бұрын

    The first time I played Witcher 3 was the first expierence with the Witcher. I love the series and I very much relate with how you picked Triss first too! ^^ I've enjoyed your videos for a while and it's helped me also do multiple playthroughs as well! Thank you!

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    If you only played the games, you would probably choose Triss. Reading the books you´d understand it´s Yen and no one else. :) Though, there´s no correct choice. Well, we´ll see what happens in Witcher 4 though, lol.

  • @janettemccubbin8246
    @janettemccubbin824610 ай бұрын

    I went into Witcher 3 “blind” but I still think Yen is the better of the two, but I do think Keira would have been a love interest, she is very much like Yen in her sarcastic replies although is a also a bit of a schemer like Triss. Congratulations on the 100k. 👏🏻👏🏻👍

  • @theresapebbleinmyboot
    @theresapebbleinmyboot9 ай бұрын

    I also went in with no knowledge. Grabbed the game november of 2016 and just have played it maybe once a year. Once i realized certain interactions and cutscens are different based on your chosen difficulty level, and then seeing recent patch notes, ive started another playthrough. I very much enjoy collecting books in this game and reading everything along the way. Its what made me want morencontext andnto seek out the peevious 2 games. I just love RPGs so i knew off rip that id love this game but i totally underestimated its power to have me completely obsessed with it😂

  • @ruaidhri8064
    @ruaidhri8064 Жыл бұрын

    Please do more lore videos like this, I really like them

  • @pandanigg4
    @pandanigg4 Жыл бұрын

    "If i m to choose between triss and yennefer .then i prefer not to choose at all" Geralt

  • @LadyAhro

    @LadyAhro

    Жыл бұрын

    The irony of the quote of course, is that he can’t help but always make a choice. It’s a cute quote, but the story itself reveals that Geralt cannot be neutral, he will always make a choice. And this is reflected once again in the ending of the books

  • @mohammadsaleem5990

    @mohammadsaleem5990

    Жыл бұрын

    Proceeds to get dumped by both

  • @devd3l
    @devd3l11 ай бұрын

    Would be cool to hear your opinion on Witcher 4, what would you like it be as well as features that CDPR should keep from Witcher 3 and perhaps some that they shouldn't. Personally I am not sure if I would like to see Ciri as the lead for the next title because she could feel too powerful but I also won't complain if she is because she's a great, think I would rather prefer a story of another Witcher or perhaps even a prequel, a time when there was way more Witcher's scattered around the world and maybe this would be an opportunity to pick your own school and create your own character, young Vesemir or Geralt could work too I suppose

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    Probably, you can´t go before the book Witcher, because of the contract? The games deal with stuff AFTER the books, so that could be easier one to aim for?

  • @Film_Sushi

    @Film_Sushi

    9 ай бұрын

    And for fuck sake, The Blood Origin (Netflix) fucked up (any possible) prequels enormously. :)

  • @neilmowles3135
    @neilmowles31356 ай бұрын

    First playthrough of witcher 3 in which i had very limited knowledge of the lore had me just go along with yen, the game seemed to lightly push me that way. Yen seems the better fit but every conversation becomes a game or an argument. As i played through i enjoyed my time with triss because she acts nice and helpful and causes less agro. A long time later now that i know the bigger picture im glad i chose yen for the books sake but if you find yen too much and that geralt has grown away from her and that triss has grown up, i can see that as a good post book choice.

  • @MrMe-nd1xb
    @MrMe-nd1xb Жыл бұрын

    I don't really comment, like, or subscribe to anything ever on any platforms. But I've been watching you sense you released your first video, and just letting you know that you've always had amazing content and professional level quality video's

  • @Pr0digyZRX
    @Pr0digyZRX Жыл бұрын

    I've picked Yenn just about every playthrough cause I started off with the books and it just feels right lol. But if I could have my choice I'd pick Shani ngl

  • @cameronicardi3587
    @cameronicardi35872 ай бұрын

    I read the books first, so I have never warmed up to Triss. Yen and Geralt are complicated, but they seem to fit.

  • @evanblack20
    @evanblack2010 ай бұрын

    I will help my stage 5 clinger into the bushes every 5 minutes thank you very much

  • @krisyums
    @krisyums Жыл бұрын

    Bro really made a 27-minute video debating Triss vs Yennefer, only to say Team Shani in the last 3 seconds xD Fistbump! I say the same every time somebody asks, even tho I much prefer Triss!

  • @MatikTheSeventh
    @MatikTheSeventh Жыл бұрын

    I always romance both Yen and Triss just so I can see Ciri at Corvo Bianco.

  • @MoonlitBR

    @MoonlitBR

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm doing this on my next gen update. I used to choose one of them but living in Toussaint with Ciri is really the happy ending.

  • @mfancyketchup6701
    @mfancyketchup67019 ай бұрын

    1:48 made me LOL, thank you for this content

  • @Keram-io8hv
    @Keram-io8hv11 ай бұрын

    Maybe there was something wrong with my childhood but I liked Yen's character and found her "not that bad" Also I like trope "two totally different people end together"

  • @SimuLord
    @SimuLord Жыл бұрын

    I haven't read the books (they're my next Audible credits after I get through my audiobook backlog) and played a bit of the first game and none of the second before Witcher 3. Triss in 3 gives me the same vibe as a lot of beloved former girlfriends of mine, so I was drawn to her in the game.

  • @reeeyou

    @reeeyou

    10 ай бұрын

    And maybe that’s the reason why they’re former girlfriends. So Yen is the choice 😂

  • @SimuLord

    @SimuLord

    10 ай бұрын

    @@reeeyou Touché. :D

  • @TheScarletSorceress
    @TheScarletSorceress Жыл бұрын

    Yennefer!💖 Triss is pretty useless in the books and all she does is have these monologues of how she should go out and do something while the world is burning, yet never does, while Yennefer is out there muddy and bloody, kicking a$$ and taking no names! 😍

  • @mrtin5523
    @mrtin55237 ай бұрын

    the fanarts are really gorgeous and some of them are like nothing i have seen so far. great video btw. go team Triss

  • @matejpotrusil1464
    @matejpotrusil14645 ай бұрын

    You missed the most important part in the books... At least for me. The scene near the end when they are in a bathtub ready to take their lifes just for ciri. For me thats the moment when I realised they are ment to be together

  • @mh8826
    @mh8826 Жыл бұрын

    That’s why I don’t choose (either have both or reject both).. my canon ending is Corvo with Ciri Witcher ending.. that feels the best way to end his story

  • @Dr.Barber
    @Dr.Barber Жыл бұрын

    Shanni is the correct answer. That being said I've always gone back and forth. My preferences lean towards Triss, but it seemed pretty clear that Geralt's leaned towards Yenn. My first playthrough wasn't entirely blind though because when I smelled a choice coming I started hitting the books and researching them both.

  • @BVCStudios
    @BVCStudios10 ай бұрын

    Great vid. Quickly: I think Geralt’s last wish was to have a child with Yennefer…that would really tie everything together nicely 😊

  • @roonkolos
    @roonkolos10 ай бұрын

    The way i always saw it was simply as such: Triss is a bright burning candle that wont last as long. Yen is more of one thats more dim but wont burn out nearly as quick Personally, if it were me knowing full backstory, id rather the long road worth taking than a short one leaving me with wanting more than whats given

  • @itss_alexx2917
    @itss_alexx2917 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, keep up the good work

  • @joseaguilar3323
    @joseaguilar3323 Жыл бұрын

    The way I see it, Yen is like a wife while Triss is like a girlfriend.

  • @CursedMohawk
    @CursedMohawk10 ай бұрын

    The fact Yen sees Ciri as her own is enough for me plus his excited me he sees Yen again

  • @xXPazifistaXx
    @xXPazifistaXx7 ай бұрын

    During my first playthrough I wanted to romace Triss, but didn't know that I would miss my chance should I not go to the hut in Skellige after what happens in the garden. Only found out after it was too late with no safestate in place to right my wrong. But I still had the option to romance Triss and did so immediately. Then came the scenes in Kaer Morhen and suddenly I didn't regret that decision. Still, after that I chose Triss and that was a good choice too. Experience both at least once.

  • @alanxyct1648
    @alanxyct1648 Жыл бұрын

    its really a matter of taste. triss in the books isnt evil but weak and being one of youngerest member of lodge, desperately sought approval. at the end of the book, we can see triss really grow up, and this trend continued in the game. yen being yen, game has pictured it perfectly, strong personality, needs everything under control and so on,to a point where geralt couldnt bear it and fled. short story shard of ice depicts their relationship before ciri happens very well, its the most obscure part in the books, once you understand this story youll have a general idea of whats going on between them. ciri plays a big part in their relationship later on, sharing a same goal of raising and finding ciri brings them back together. yen didnt change much in the books and for the most part of the game, but we can see in the games ending, yen softed, want a peace and quiet life. as for geralts love interest, yen is beyond any doubt, in fact geralt only said love to fringilla other than yen in the books, triss is knocked out at the beginning. (oh, i have to mention that author seperates sex and love, since everyone is quite loose on sex, so i dont take that into acount) its not about which is better or right chioce as there is no such thing in a relationship. thats the whole point of the game, make you own choice.(im with triss in case you are wondering)

  • @sullifishing4035

    @sullifishing4035

    11 ай бұрын

    I feel Triss genuinely cares more for Geralt. Speaking about love. In the game if you choose Triss you get interesting dialogue and cut scenes with her. Just before going to fight the Wild Hunt for last time you get the cut scene in the tent. The one with Triss they tell each other they love one another. With yenn's cut scene they don't. Also when doing the quest for everyone in Novigrad (The Elf,ciri,yenn,Triss) You get the scene at the fountain with Triss to find Fillipa. The love chemistry feels so genuine. Triss/Yenn both love Ciri but in my experience I felt the love from Triss.

  • @Arkenway
    @Arkenway Жыл бұрын

    Bro, I had almost the same experience as you with Triss ! I had only played a few hours of The Witcher 2 beforehand and had very little knowledge of the lore. Every promotional image and trailer of The Witcher 2 also featured Triss front and center so on my first W3 playthrough, I went with Triss aswell Then I got into the lore, read the books (haven't finished them all) and now I cannot see myself going anything else than Yennefer 🥲

  • @geralttherivian3769

    @geralttherivian3769

    Жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @abereid4315

    @abereid4315

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't read all the books but the ones I did read after playing all the games put me off Yen even more so! Team Triss forever..

  • @zamany7596

    @zamany7596

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@abereid4315 maybe you only read first 2 story ones and first main, as much as I enjoy triss in the witcher saga you see her as the really good girl for geralt

  • @ParagonGorilla

    @ParagonGorilla

    Жыл бұрын

    Haven't read the books, but yen seems like the right option. Plus Ciri looks up to her as a mom

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