God dang... glad you updated that dang mic

Likewise here in the UK, AKG have always been a reliable choice - I've tried them all, Shure, Sennheiser etc. I've used AKG regular mics for studio recording over a 40 year period, and now with digital wireless units, its an obvious choice for reliability and quality. Great review Doug, sensible and informative reporting without annoying background music. Many thanks!

I use both AKGs and Shure sm58 cordlesses... I gravitate towards AKG a lot

Hey thanks for such an informative video, i love akg as. well but i have the low end(lol) wms40 and i am getting the perception model soon. One issue ihave is that th ehandhelp power switch is made soft ,but interms of quality, its boss over my more expemsive shure mic s mr c

THANK YOU THANK YOU DOUG!! I’m gravitating closer to AKG, and getting away from the Shure & Sen. and your video gives a lot of info and clarification.soon all of my audio will be AKG. Even to using wireless AKG guitar transmitter. I’m desperately in need of a question answered . Doug, the instrument wireless transmitter that you mentioned in your video is the way I want to go. My question is... do I need an separate system for everything mic’d? Can I have have a headset microphone and a guitar / MKG L CABLE signaling to 1 PT Body pack transmitter, at the same time? Or do I need separate frequencies What I’m trying to do, is work off of 1 SR45.? I like the idea when I’m not singing I can switch over to the MKG L and go wireless guitar. I’m tring to eliminate 1 out of the 2 cable mess when rocking vocals and guitar. if I can knock out both by using one receiver and one PT45 that’ll be cool. I know I would save the trouble and purchase $100 instrument AKG but, if I can save a few bucks .... I’m in! Thank you so much agin for all your videos. A fan & Subscriber Raul R. from Oceanside Ca.

@djp_video

6 жыл бұрын

Each thing being mic'd has to have its own separate transmitter and receiver. Unless the receiver, like the DSR 800, has multiple receivers in one chassis. That's pretty uncommon, though, and tends to only appear on the top-of-the-line units. The lower-end models (like the Perception series) don't let you choose specific frequencies so generally speaking you can only use one on each frequency band so you have to be a lot more careful about selecting radio bands when purchasing to make sure you don't overlap. But when you get into the higher-end models you get more flexibility in being able to select the specific frequencies, which allows you to run more systems in a given radio band. The WMS 450/470, for example, typically allow about 12 systems in a single band, depending on how much of that band is unoccupied. When you get into the 4500 and 800 series those numbers go up considerably.

Hey Doug, I think, in the meantime, I've seen all of your video's and every time I'm learning something new! So thanks again. But in all of those video's I've never seen what type op audiodelay you use. I find it hard to delay the audio for livestreaming. Sometimes you just don't know where it goes wrong. Hardware? Streaming software? KZread/Facebook. So: Do you have tips? And what delayer do you use? Looking forward to your next video!

@djp_video

6 жыл бұрын

Basically, I don't have to worry about it. I usually just make sure the audio follows the same path as the video so any required delay is automatically handled by any devices in the chain. So generally speaking audio goes into a camera, which then goes through the switcher, which then goes to my streaming device. Audio stays perfectly in sync that way since it gets delayed automatically exactly the same amount of time as the video. On the occasion that audio doesn't go through a camera, I don't have to add much, if any, delay to make its sync be "good enough." My Sony cameras have very minimal delay on the SDI outputs, so even when I bypass the cameras and feed audio directly into the switcher it doesn't feel out-of-sync. (My BMD cameras are another story -- audio does need to be delayed for those.) But I understand the frustration. Software-based streaming solutions are notorious for having audio sync issues. Just one of many reasons I went with dedicated hardware instead. My Teradek VidiU hasn't ever had a problem with audio sync. If nothing else, though, you could see if you can change video frame rates to see if shooting drop frame vs. non-drop frame is causing you grief.

@ErikWildemanFilms

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the answer. I do live events whith live acts and we get a very big cable with multiple XLR's (don't know the name for that). Audio mix left/right, but also audio return to FOH/PA (for the audio that goed with the video for the LED walls). Therefore, the audio comes in separately. But the somehow the delayer we used wasn't working well, therefore I asked you. But now I understand why you don't need a delayer. I'll just keep on searching.

@djp_video

6 жыл бұрын

I do a lot of those types of events too. (The cable is called a snake, BTW.) But we just take the audio output of the mixer and feed it into one of the camera inputs most of the time. There is usually a camera closer to FOH than the switcher anyway. And when that isn't an option for whatever reason we just feed it into the switcher input. Not all cameras have a latency as low as mine, though, so I can totally understand where a delay might be required. It just hasn't been an issue for me.

@michaelrempel9025

6 жыл бұрын

If it is a digital mixer and you are using a bus out most mixers can add a delay. If you are ganged with stereo out then not. But you can probably get the mix engineer to set it up for you if you ask ahead and it is a regular gig. I have dealt with it personally, but not in a livecast situation. I just fix it in post. You should also record some room ambiance if you can. Off the board tends to be EQed wrong because the sound is tailored for the room. A good engineer will avoid hyping room modes and so on. The degree this affects you depends on how much work the audio engineer is doing at the board, and how much is handled by outboard EQ etc. I know I advise people that my board sound is horrible, but I constantly get complements on having the best sound ever in rooms I mix in. That is particularly true of troublesome rooms. And FWIW I use a combination of mix console and outboard gear. In most situations I suggest you at least set up a couple of condenser mics and record the room itself even if you get a board mix. Use some height to get away from location noise and people talking. Even point your Cardioids up a bit. Delay align your board feed to that room sound. If your engineer is good, they will already be using a lot of delay to align acoustic and electronic sound. If they cant figure out delays and say they refuse to use compression then chances are they are just old school mixers and wont be able to help you. There are a lot of tin eared audio guys pushing faders out there who cant do much. You will probably badly want a board mix because the crossovers and speaker placement in the room are creating all kinds of comb filtering problems all over the place. Those are tough gigs.

We have several DMS800 receivers at my church. We get dropouts all the time. We're even using the antenna booster and HUB4000. We regret buying them.

@radiodjs1

4 жыл бұрын

Are you searching for open frequencies? Perhaps you're getting interference from other local signals?

@primestardigitalnetwork358

Жыл бұрын

Hi if you have DHT800 BD1 units I am interested in buying them

Thanks for the informative video! I am wondering about the last thing you mentioned in the video - about battery-powering the receiver. I am contemplating buying an AKG sr45, which I want to be able to use indoors and possibly outdoors. Do I understand you correctly that you can use 12 v battery for this also? And , if so, could two receivers be hooked onto one single battery? Thanks!

@djp_video

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, these AKG receivers can all run off of 12V, and that includes being run off of a battery. All you need is the proper cable, which should be easy -- they all use center-positive 5.5/2.1mm DC barrel jacks.

@hanspetterwiken4379

5 жыл бұрын

Doug Johnson Productions Nice! I think I can then also use these batteries for my custom-made lighting:)

YOU HAVE SOME VIDEO ABOUR FIXED AND UNASSEMBLY MICROPHONE AKG , AKG 800 MODEL?

Thank you for your very nice technical real life explanation of your systems! You really give us real information. Small stuff but very, very useful. The details. Unfortunately you drive the video sound to much so the video sound quality is not professional. I guess -8dB would have saved you. a lot of distortion in the sounds. Freaking me out. But no worries, it´s worth watching anyway! (It could have been a supervideo if the sound was coherent with the info. In Sweden we are using the E-band. That´s a different video :) Your video quality is very much better than the audio actually. Anyways. Keep on the good work and watch out for that clipping. I recommend monitor speakers from Intelligent sound, they will give you a upper hand. In your type of quality hard to get but worth it I garantie. Call Petter Holaas He will really acknowledged your findings and give you an even better sound using your AKG equipment. br /daniel

@djp_video

7 жыл бұрын

That's the sort of thing that happens when I do these by myself. I guess I talk a lot louder while filming than I do during setup. So the audio clips occasionally. Sorry about that! During a real production there is someone there to monitor that sort of thing and make corrections in real-time.

It's been about 4 years since this video. I was wondering if your wms450 is still holding up. I am thinking of buying a 470 but concerned about durability.

@djp_video

3 жыл бұрын

I've had my 450s for more than a decade now, and they all still work just great, and most of them look almost brand-new. But I probably only use them a half dozen times each year.

Do you think it would be wise to find 2.4g system in 2020? Based on UHF freq being eliminated? Thankyou for the video lesson.

@djp_video

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't liked any of the 2.4 GHz systems I've used. I wouldn't recommend them.

@HouseOfHealingAZ

4 жыл бұрын

AKG 470 it is.👌🙆‍♀️

Any recommendations for wireless Headsets?

@djp_video

7 жыл бұрын

I don't really have enough experience with those to be able to make a qualified recommendation.

@michaelrempel9025

6 жыл бұрын

I have used them a bit, so I will throw in my 2 cents. Countryman or DPA are my only 2 recommendations. But be sure to check the bodypack with it because they vary a lot. You want to test the compression/decompression carefully. Sennheiser top end has the nicest. AKG is next. The Sennheiser dropout problems dont exist on their top of the line but that will run you 3x the cost of a comparable AKG. They tend to only get sold to bands on tour. The rest of us mere mortals cant get them. Sennheiser low end are bad. They seem to me to be up-sell bait, but I dont bite and neither should you. You always want at least what they call a True Diversity receiver in any brand. And mixing brands is never a good idea. They often wont play well together. The more wireless systems you have in one location the worse your over all problems will be if the radios are not really good. One old Electrovoice wireless mic can wipe out a whole bank of decent brand channels with noise. Wired mics always sound better if they are of comparable quality because there is no signal compression / decompression which all wireless mics have. Except possibly digital, which is changing the world again, but Doug already explained why they are not universal. Wired means a lot of cables, and that means setup/tear down costs, and some people complain about walking on a wired stage. For wired headsets, Rode makes a decent 3.5mm to XLR. The other thing to note is that presenter headsets and singer headsets are not the same. Sensitivity ranges differ. And you need to know how to wear one to get the audio quality right. The default 'just wear it' setup is almost always wrong. You need to fit it to talent individually, The mic cant be too high/low or to forward/back. The sweet spot is really small. Sibalance and bass are the main components, but phasyness sometimes comes into play at certain frequencies especially if they are on headphones or in ears. And the mic needs to not move during performance. Even for 2 ear models I end up using surgical tape every time. So as you can see the talent should consider hand held or stand held if at all possible. Plan on spending $2000 per channel and much patience for every gig to get it working well.

Hey Doug, I'm about to purchase a new wireless microphone and would like to hear your opinion on Sennheiser (ew500) vs AKG WMS4500... Which one would be better in terms of sound quality and reliability. I've been using Sennheiser wireless EW500 for many years with great success but give the fact my newer Sennheiser D1 digital wireless system sounds so crystal clear (I can say identical to a wired version of the capsule I'm using in it) even more than the trusted EW500 which is analog, I'm just wondering how AKG wireless compete. Thanks!

@gotgadgets

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't used that particular model of Sennheiser, but I've more or less given up on that brand for wireless systems, mainly due to too many dropouts and general instability in the past. I've also been to countless concerts where, if there were issues with the wireless system, it was always a Sennheiser product. They may have fixed that... I can't say for sure... but back in the day when I was still using systems from pretty much all brands regularly, AKG was always the most reliable (and had the best sound), and Sennheiser the least. I can honestly say in the two decades that I've owned and used AKG gear that I've _never_ had a dropout unless the transmitter was really far away from the receiver. In my mind you buy AKG for wireless reliability and sound quality, Shure for the most rugged systems and the best support from the manufacturer, and Sony for a balance between the two.

@mprz8188

6 жыл бұрын

Doug Johnson I get your point. Now, digital vs analog, is there that huge difference in sound quality? Say DMS800 vs WMS4500.... For instance, EW500 G4 (new generation) is at the same price as the AKG WMS 4500... Again, Sennheiser has a particular sound and as you mentioned earlier, tends to suffer from poor transmission reliability.

@gotgadgets

6 жыл бұрын

That depends. For the best analog systems, they're pretty close to the sound you get from digital. If you're dealing with the value products, not so much. I use my DMS800, DMS700, WMS4500, and WMS450/470 systems together all the time and they all sound great. One does have to be a little bit careful when buying a "digital" system, though, as some of them actually aren't -- they just have a digital signal that gets transmitted along with the analog, carrying metadata but no audio. If you're going digital make sure that the system actually sends a digital signal. The best way to be sure is to find out what sample rate and bit depth they're using. If the manufacturer doesn't specify, there's a good chance it isn't actually digital.

@mprz8188

6 жыл бұрын

Doug Johnson The Sennheiser system I'm currently using is the D1 (digital wireless 2.4Ghz) and my analog go to mic is the sennheiser EW500 G3. I'm trying to choose wisely and move forward in the right direction. My D1 is half the price of my EW500 and I believe it does sound better, Fuller and crisper. Shure has QLXD and ULXD systems which are digital too but those are way more expensive. What I have in mind is replacing my 4 year old EW500 system (which is absolutely immaculate and works perfect) by a better sounding and reliable system, any brand, any model within same price range (around USD 1k)

Absolutely love my wired D7! Wanna buy wireless system, but I have a question... Is there any noticeable difference between WMS470 and WMS4500? (except the impossibility of changing the capsule)

@djp_video

Жыл бұрын

Audio quality is virtually the same. You get more usable channels with the 4500 series. And potential integration with a computer via their Hub product.

@user-dm3jr7qk2e

Жыл бұрын

@@djp_video So, if i need only one system, wms 470 is a right choise?)

I have WMS470 two sets. One is Band7 and other is Band8. Can I use them in the same rack without issue.

@djp_video

Жыл бұрын

Yes. You can use multiple on the same band as well, you just need to make sure they're on different but compatible frequencies.

Im currently using AKG IVM4500 and i absolutely LOVE IT! the only thing about it I've never understood is why sometimes I experience some dropout... RF and sound quality are absolutely insane, for real, the best sounding system of all... But still can't understand why I'm dealing with some occasional noise. My system is installed in an SKB small rack. When the system is out to Of the skb rack the signal is flawless and perfect. Perfect is the word. Any ideas? Would highly appreciate your support on this.

@djp_video

6 жыл бұрын

Why not mount the antenna externally? Put a BNC connector on the outside of the case, and run a short cable to the back of your unit. I've done this with mine and it does help.

@mprz8188

6 жыл бұрын

Doug Johnson Productions many thanks for the prompt reply! For sure I'll take your advice and will put the antenna outside. On the other hand, have you ever had any problems with damaged front displays on the IVM 4500 receiver? Mine is defective and should be replaced. Have you ever done this? Is it any hard to replace? Bonus question: I'm using Sennheiser D1 wireless microphone as my go to microphone for small to medium stages. Any better option from AKG? I love my D7 more than any other microphone but I need the convenience of a wireless system and the D7 capsule isn't compatible with my Sennheiser transmitter. Thanks again!

@mprz8188

6 жыл бұрын

My mistake, the problem Is not In the receiver but in the transmitter display. I've emailed akg parts and they suggested to replace the front board which includes the display.

@djp_video

6 жыл бұрын

Pick up an HT4500 transmitter and SR4500 receiver. You'll get better audio than you can get out your Sennheiser. I've never had to replace the display or face of any of my receivers. AKG's parts department is really helpful, though. Give them a call.

I had a wms450 kit that I used but sadly the receiver broke, totally my fault by using the wrong power supply. I am looking for a used sr450 or anything that's band 1 portable or not, what do you think a fair price for one would be?

@djp_video

7 жыл бұрын

TornadoPL Since Band 1 is going to be illegal in the coming months I'd expect a lot of people to be dumping their Band 1 gear for pretty cheap. I wouldn't pay more than $100-125 for a receiver, or $150-200 for a full kit.

@tankionlinemarkos

7 жыл бұрын

Doug Johnson Productions Ok thank you! I live in Greece and I think the band will be still free for the next 5-10 years. Any idea where I could grab one of the mentioned pocket receivers? I can't find any information about them online nor eBay. Keep up the good work!

@djp_video

7 жыл бұрын

TornadoPL The pocket receivers are only available in the higher end 4500 series. While they are technically compatible, you do still need a stationary 450/470 receiver around to configure the transmitter. (The 4500 transmitters are programmed directly on the units, not through the receivers like the 450/470). But the PR4500 models are difficult to find. When purchased new I've had to special order them, and used ones come up very rarely on eBay. Maybe one or two per year. They may be a little more readily available in Europe, but they are difficult to find (at best) here in the US.

Do you know if I can use a PT470 transmitter with a wms 450 receiver if in the same band?

@djp_video

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are compatible. You don't get the benefits of the 470 receiver, but they'll work fine together.

@scottgardziella3458

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I'm Mario Francis, from India, I would like to buy AKG wireless Microphone, and i have decided to buy AKG HT4500 . I will be using it for church worship specially while singing, please recommend if I can buy this one.

@djp_video

7 жыл бұрын

Mario Francis You can check your local audio dealers to see if that model is one they carry. Or import one from another country if AKG doesn't have any Indian dealers.

@pastormariosanthosh

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you, but AKG has an authorized dealer in India, Sad news is the dealers doesn't have an idea on AKG HT 4500 wireless microphone, and he is pushing for Shure pg58. Hence, seeking your help.

@djp_video

7 жыл бұрын

The Shure PG58 is kind of a low-end unit, where the AKG 4500 is high-end. The 4500 is going to cost about five times as much as the PG58 series. If your dealer doesnt carry the 4500 you may have to import. Check dealers in Europe. They tend to be better about carrying AKG gear than dealers elsewhere.

ive had similar experience with our AKG mic at our church....i always go back to them .... we have 3 ...i called them OLE RELAIABLE !! BTW ...HOW do u use the IR to pair....please tell me!....cant find anything to show me!!

@djp_video

2 жыл бұрын

Pairing instructions are in the manual

@aaimginggraphics2411

2 жыл бұрын

@@djp_video don’t have a manual….got it 2nd hand

@djp_video

2 жыл бұрын

They're on the AKG website

Differences between the C5 and The D5? I know the C5 is Condenser and the D5 is Dynamic, which would be better for a church soloist or duet?

@djp_video

3 жыл бұрын

Even though they look similar, they're completely different microphones. The D5 will be better if feedback rejection is something you need to consider. The C5 has a more pleasing and brighter sound, but it is a lot more susceptible to picking up outside sounds and causing feedback. For PA applications, the D5 is usually preferred.

@soundguy622

3 жыл бұрын

@@djp_video Thank you Doug. It's great to see that you are still responding to us after all these years. I hope you are doing well.

Can the diversity body pack do vocal mic AND guitar simultaneously?

@djp_video

2 жыл бұрын

No. Each transmitter/receiver can only handle one signal at a time.

Hello, i own a AKG SR450 Stationary Reciver RF Band II (680 - 710 Mhz) for some reason i lost my transmitter. Can now buy an AKG PT4000 Wireless Pocket Transmitter RF Band II 680-710 MHz. Can you tell me if this will work ? it is the same frequency Hope you can help me out.

@djp_video

10 ай бұрын

I haven't tried that combination, but from what I understand based on a conversation with an AKG representative in the past, the 4000 series doesn't output a pilot signal that the 450/470 series are expecting to see, so the receiver won't actually enable the audio output. In other words, you wouldn't hear anything. You can go the other way, from a 400 series to a 4000 series, but because the 400 series are only programmed using IR and don't have a menu system of their own, you have to keep a 400 series transmitter around just for programming. But 4000/4500 series transmitters don't work with 400 series receivers.

@dobbeloseven2921

10 ай бұрын

@@djp_video Thanks for your time and answer. Have to look for a new transmitter in that frequency i`ll gues 😔

Your mic is Peaking on the video screen

you provide great info and know a lot but your breathing is really annoying. you should learn some breathing techniques. Thank you for the video! learned a lot!